WEBVTT - Best Of: Darius Rucker- Caroline's First Every Podcast Guest

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<v Speaker 1>I am going back to the beginning because it's just time.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been podcasting for close to ten years now.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot even believe it. When I started podcasting, I

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<v Speaker 1>was a nervous wreck. I had no idea how to

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<v Speaker 1>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was scared to ask people to come on my podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>But my very first guest was Darius Rucker. The Darius Rucker,

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<v Speaker 2>the lead singer of Hoodi and the Blowfush, the huge

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<v Speaker 2>country star, Darius Rucker, the sweetest heart ever.

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<v Speaker 3>And my husband Michael was touring with him and his band.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael's band is a Thousand Horses, and they were opening

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<v Speaker 2>for Darius, and I just got super courageous and I

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<v Speaker 2>asked Darius to come on my podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was the very first episode that I ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am throwing it back to the first episode

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<v Speaker 2>I have ever done for my podcast, and it's with

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<v Speaker 2>the one and only Darius Rucker. So let's go back

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<v Speaker 2>down memory lane and check it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Carl Line, she's a queen of talking.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey with sown you live.

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<v Speaker 6>She's on the inside. She got the snoop on the

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<v Speaker 6>walls to watch on the lawns aside. No one can

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<v Speaker 6>do win, quiet.

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<v Speaker 4>Die cal line, carral Line, no one can do Win

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<v Speaker 4>Quiet Die call Line.

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<v Speaker 7>It's Tiple Caroline.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, y'all, welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm your host, Caroline Hobby, and I am so excited

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<v Speaker 7>that you're here with me. This is my first podcast,

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<v Speaker 7>in my first episode, Yay. Before I get into the interview,

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<v Speaker 7>I want to give you a quick background onto who

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<v Speaker 7>I am. I am a Texas native born and raised.

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<v Speaker 7>Moved to Nashville when I was nineteen to become a

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<v Speaker 7>country music star. I got hooked up with two awesome girls,

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<v Speaker 7>Jennifer Wayne and Taylor Lynn, and we formed a trio

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<v Speaker 7>called Stealing Angels. I was in that trio for about

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<v Speaker 7>seven years. We toured the country.

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<v Speaker 3>On a tour bus.

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<v Speaker 7>We had two songs in the top fifty on the

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<v Speaker 7>charts on the Country charts, and we even got to

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<v Speaker 7>play Madison Square Garden open up for Tim McGraw, Rascal Flats,

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<v Speaker 7>Luke Bryan, Miranda Lambert.

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<v Speaker 3>It was such a wild ride.

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<v Speaker 7>It eventually fell apart, which was really sad and disheartening

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<v Speaker 7>and kind of broke my heart a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 7>just like when one thing falls apart, another thing comes

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<v Speaker 7>together and Jen and I got asked to do the

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<v Speaker 7>Amazing Race, which is the reality show which takes you

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<v Speaker 7>around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so fun. It's such an incredible experience.

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<v Speaker 7>We got fourth place on season twenty two, and then

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<v Speaker 7>if that wasn't cool enough, just to race once, we

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<v Speaker 7>got asked back to race again on the All Star

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<v Speaker 7>season and we ended up coming in second place. We

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<v Speaker 7>lost the whole race by four seconds. Those were really

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<v Speaker 7>expensive seconds because you win a million dollars if you win,

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<v Speaker 7>but the experience was priceless. Because of Amazing Race. We

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<v Speaker 7>got to go to like twenty different countries, which is

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<v Speaker 7>just crazy. And when I finished that, when I finished

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<v Speaker 7>the second time racing on Amazing Race, I came back

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<v Speaker 7>to Nashville and I was like, what do I really love?

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<v Speaker 7>And I realized I love getting to know people, and

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<v Speaker 7>I love getting to know people's stories and figuring out

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<v Speaker 7>their drive and how people stay inspired. Because this industry,

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<v Speaker 7>this entertainment industry, is crazy and it can break your

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<v Speaker 7>heart and it can tear you down, and you have

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<v Speaker 7>to really have a vision, and you have to have

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<v Speaker 7>a focus, and you have to have a drive. And

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<v Speaker 7>it's not for the week, for sure, It's not for

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<v Speaker 7>the faint of heart, and so I definitely was curious

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<v Speaker 7>about how people stay motivated. And I've collected a ton

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<v Speaker 7>of interesting friends after living in Nashville for over ten years,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm like, you know what, I'm going to interview

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<v Speaker 7>these people and I'm going to get to know what's

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<v Speaker 7>going on in their brains and see why they wake

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<v Speaker 7>up every morning and get hyper about their career and

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<v Speaker 7>get hyper about their dreams.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is why hyper Caroline Hobby was born.

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<v Speaker 7>And I hope that you enjoy hearing from all these

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<v Speaker 7>incredible people, because it has been a blast so far

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<v Speaker 7>getting to talk to some of the coolest people I

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<v Speaker 7>know in Nashville. The first person that we're interviewing is

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<v Speaker 7>Darius Rucker. What He's from Hooty and the Blowfish. He

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<v Speaker 7>sold thirty million albums with Hooty and the Blowfish. And

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<v Speaker 7>if that wasn't crazy enough and cool enough, he then

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<v Speaker 7>started all the way back over in country music and

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<v Speaker 7>climbed his way back from the just the starting ground

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<v Speaker 7>all the way to the top of the charts and

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<v Speaker 7>country music. He didn't take any freebies. He didn't come

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<v Speaker 7>in as a superstar. He started off like any other

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<v Speaker 7>newbie and country music and worked his way all the

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<v Speaker 7>way up to the top. And his story is incredible,

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<v Speaker 7>It's inspiring. He's probably one of the most hard working,

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<v Speaker 7>driven men I've ever met. He's hilarious and it was

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<v Speaker 7>a super big privilege to get to interview him. So

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<v Speaker 7>please welcome Darius Rucker to Hyper Caroline Hobby.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Darius Rucker.

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<v Speaker 6>How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fabulous? How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh good?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you enjoying this snow?

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<v Speaker 6>A big snow guy? But you know it's okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, I know, well you don't. You don't live in Nashville,

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<v Speaker 3>do you No, I don't live in Nashville and Charleston.

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<v Speaker 6>We never get snow.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, when I came here yesterday and it

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<v Speaker 5>was crazy, I hadn't stopped as I woke up.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you brought it with you because it started yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh sorry, you know I got to bring something. How

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<v Speaker 5>come you don't want to come to ashe I'm banded.

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<v Speaker 3>That's very true. Yeah, absolutely, Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>So you started off and I was like, in nineteen

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<v Speaker 7>eighty six is when this whole thing started for you.

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<v Speaker 6>I was a.

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<v Speaker 5>Sophomore in college and met this guy who uh was

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<v Speaker 5>a guitar player. And he asked me if he heard

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<v Speaker 5>me singing in the shower.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you heard me singing a Billy Joel song.

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<v Speaker 3>And you always singing the shower?

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<v Speaker 6>I used to. I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I do much anymore, but I used

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<v Speaker 5>to all the time. Yeah, because this was like we

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<v Speaker 5>had community showers, you know. It wasn't like like you

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<v Speaker 5>know now they have all these new, these great showers

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<v Speaker 5>and these dorms, but ours was just four six shower heads.

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<v Speaker 3>In one open room one one open room.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And I have a shower in the afternoon and no

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<v Speaker 5>one was in there, and I'm singing and I walk

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<v Speaker 5>out and he goes, man, was that you?

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, yeah, He's like, wow.

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<v Speaker 5>You know I play guitar and that, and I said really,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, you know, he said, want you come

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<v Speaker 5>out later see we be doing the same song.

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<v Speaker 6>And I did. And butter Man, ever since.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you have intentions to be a singer?

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<v Speaker 5>I always wanted to be. That's all I ever wanted, really,

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<v Speaker 5>since I was four, that's all I ever wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Really.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, but you get older and you realize

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<v Speaker 5>that's never going to happen and you got to get

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<v Speaker 5>a real job.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you going to do the real job thing?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? I want to.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to work in sports, something to sports, either

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<v Speaker 5>radio or television or something.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a great voice for it, like a voice.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I still I still want to have a sports

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<v Speaker 6>talk show some day.

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<v Speaker 3>Sports I want to do that someday I retire.

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<v Speaker 6>I like them. I like all, you know, the three

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<v Speaker 6>majors we have here, But football I live for it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's sometimes it's really why I get out of bed

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<v Speaker 5>and in the morning because.

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<v Speaker 6>Football is on that day.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you stoked about the Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 6>I wis shouldn't have been a better game? I was? Uh,

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<v Speaker 6>I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm always stoked py super Bowl because it's the it's

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<v Speaker 5>the championship of my favorite league. But then around two

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<v Speaker 5>minutes left in the fourth court, I get really sad

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<v Speaker 5>because I realized it's normal football till like September augusta

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<v Speaker 5>and and that's always a sad time for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 7>I barely even knew who was playing in the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 6>Probably only one team really played.

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<v Speaker 7>Cle's okay, okay, I want to start off with some

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<v Speaker 7>rapid fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Ready, are your morning or a night person.

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<v Speaker 6>Morning?

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<v Speaker 5>What I've become. I used to be a night person.

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<v Speaker 5>But in my but you can hang, I can hang,

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<v Speaker 5>but I get up. I'm up every morning at six,

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<v Speaker 5>six thirty no matter what I do, and I play

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<v Speaker 5>all four. You don't getting the kids in school or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm I'm a morning person.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're just not really a sleep person.

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<v Speaker 6>Not lately. No, I don't. I don't. I don't need

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<v Speaker 6>eight that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't need eight. No, what can you function on?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going on about I'm seriously going on about nine

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<v Speaker 5>hours in the last four days right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So does that make you like irritable?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>You're always so pleasant.

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<v Speaker 6>I try to be.

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<v Speaker 3>When I get tired, I get irritable, not you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Now, when I get tired, I just get ain't quiet.

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<v Speaker 6>When I get tired, I think.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, okay, so morning. If you had to be the

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<v Speaker 7>pet cat to any celebrity, who would it be?

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<v Speaker 3>And why?

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<v Speaker 5>If I have to be a cat for any celebrity,

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<v Speaker 5>I would be a cat for Paula Kartney.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So I can hang out with him.

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<v Speaker 3>You're number one.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, he's my buddy.

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<v Speaker 5>He's one of the few things on my bucket list

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<v Speaker 5>is to sit and have a beer with He's my

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely Al Green's my absolute idol.

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<v Speaker 6>Al Green is the guy who made me want to sing.

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<v Speaker 5>Really, you know, but I've been lucky, fortunate enough to

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<v Speaker 5>actually hang out with a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 6>Great. He's just a great human being.

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<v Speaker 3>And you live up the hope you had.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, he was great to be nice and and it

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<v Speaker 6>was awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>And but you know, Paul's is a close second. I

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<v Speaker 5>just you know, I love Paul mcarty.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, so he'd be his cat sitting.

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<v Speaker 5>It stroked me rubbing up against his leg, absolutely, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Any tattoos or piercings.

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<v Speaker 6>Three tattoos. Tattoos I got too. I'm getting a third one.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you going to get?

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<v Speaker 6>I want to find.

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<v Speaker 5>Somebody to And I was gonna not cheesy, but in

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<v Speaker 5>Elvis writing is from a from the Lord of the rings.

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<v Speaker 5>I want my three kids names.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. Where do you want to put it?

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<v Speaker 6>Probably?

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<v Speaker 3>And do you have another one on your own?

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<v Speaker 5>I got a I thought it was a peace flag,

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<v Speaker 5>and uh, this is flag I have my arm. It's red,

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<v Speaker 5>golden green, and uh. And in the corner where the

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<v Speaker 5>stars are. I put a piece sign and one day

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<v Speaker 5>I get out of the shower and my wife goes this, Honey,

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<v Speaker 5>I thought you said you got the peace flag.

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<v Speaker 6>I said this.

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<v Speaker 5>He said, no, you didn't. You get the Mercedes flag.

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<v Speaker 5>And I looked at it and I realized they didn't put

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<v Speaker 5>the line down the middle. So I do have the Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 3>Bens drive a Mercedes. She does, you might want get

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<v Speaker 3>free Mercedes if you put it on your arm.

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<v Speaker 6>Agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, that's amazing. Okay, what do you consider your

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<v Speaker 3>greatest achievement?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, my grace. Achievements are my kids?

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<v Speaker 3>Really? That's awesome?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean it's you know Carrie who's in college now.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm so proud of her.

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<v Speaker 5>She struggled through a lot of hard times in school

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<v Speaker 5>and now she's blossoming in such a wonderful, beautiful being

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<v Speaker 5>in college and just enjoying herself. And my other you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Danny and Jack are just such great kids that they're

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<v Speaker 5>definitely my my that's the.

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<v Speaker 6>Best thing I've ever done.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome. Did you always know you wanted kids too?

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it hard to have kids touring?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't hard. I mean it wasn't hard.

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<v Speaker 5>It was hard with carry, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 5>because who do you be? Toured so different than country

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<v Speaker 5>guys did. Like I'd go for six months and I'd

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<v Speaker 5>go for seriously, I'd go for a month without coming home,

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<v Speaker 5>and then you come home and you know, you're home.

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<v Speaker 6>For three days.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and then you're back out for three weeks and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we don't do that in country, thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 6>But uh, it's tough. Then now it's just great.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, I play tour in the summer

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<v Speaker 5>and on the weekends, and you know, if the kids

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<v Speaker 5>want to go, my sons and you know, as you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it was with me the whole time. Yeah, they come

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<v Speaker 5>out and they come out with me. So that's always fun.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, So country touring is a little more family absolutely oriented.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, okay, okay, So you met in the shower,

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<v Speaker 7>but your band were they actually in the shower with you?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I was just meaning to say. I came out

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<v Speaker 5>of the bathroom and he was staying. His door just

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<v Speaker 5>happened to be right by the shower, and I came

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<v Speaker 5>out of the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 6>He was standing in this door, and yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 6>he said. You know, well you singing man.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so then y'all wrote together all your man y'all

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<v Speaker 7>are like a unit.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll always right together.

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<v Speaker 6>We're man. Yeah, we always uh you know, beat, we

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<v Speaker 6>do pretty much everything.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. And in nineteen it was a

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<v Speaker 7>nice nightey four, Here comes Cracker, are you yeah? Did

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<v Speaker 7>you see that coming?

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<v Speaker 6>No? Still don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sixteen million albums, Still don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean it has to do in the highest selling

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<v Speaker 7>albums of all times.

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<v Speaker 6>It's up there.

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<v Speaker 5>We uh, you know, we had been a band for

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<v Speaker 5>nine years, eight years eight nine years. We've been a

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<v Speaker 5>band before we had a record deal, and we had

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<v Speaker 5>seen it going from being, you know, the biggest band

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<v Speaker 5>in my dorm room, to be in the biggest band

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<v Speaker 5>in our dorm, to be in the biggest band in

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<v Speaker 5>our college, then.

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<v Speaker 3>The biggest play your college.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh, you play frat parties all time in the

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<v Speaker 5>clubs and everything and all that stuff, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 5>then the biggest band in Columbia, then the biggest band

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<v Speaker 5>in South Carolina, and then we were the biggest band

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<v Speaker 5>in the southeast. Didn't have a record deal, and so

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<v Speaker 5>we'd watched our careers climb, so we got a record deal.

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<v Speaker 5>We just thought, you know, okay, this is just another

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<v Speaker 5>step in our career. But then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 5>the David Letiman Show happened, and we we went to

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<v Speaker 5>bed that night, we went to bed being hooting the Blowfish,

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<v Speaker 5>and the next day we woke up about to be

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<v Speaker 5>one of the biggest.

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<v Speaker 6>Bands in the world. Was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>How did that? How do you handle that? Were you

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<v Speaker 3>ready for it?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh? I don't. I don't think we have to be.

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<v Speaker 6>We didn't. We were lucky.

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<v Speaker 5>We had four guys who were so close and so

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<v Speaker 5>on each other, so on top of each other, that

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<v Speaker 5>nobody could get a big at or get you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean we we I remember when a Dean put

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<v Speaker 5>on a black T shirt for the first time. I

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<v Speaker 5>think he took five hours of us just killing him.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh you're a rock star now. Oh you know your

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<v Speaker 6>cool black T shirt. You're golf now.

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<v Speaker 5>And so there was no time and and for us,

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<v Speaker 5>we were on the road so much, there was no time.

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<v Speaker 6>We we didn't see the record sales going crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>We saw our record at number one every week in

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<v Speaker 5>the Billboard, but we didn't see it. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 5>money was going in the bank and we were just

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<v Speaker 5>on the road. All we knew was these shows a

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<v Speaker 5>getting bigger and this is aweso. Yeah, that's all we knew.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's that was great.

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<v Speaker 3>So off that record, you had hold my Hand, only

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<v Speaker 3>want to be with You. I got to say that

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<v Speaker 3>was my theme song.

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<v Speaker 7>I loved that song the best, let Her Cry and

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<v Speaker 7>Time were those of four singles off huge songs.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah records, right, I mean yeah, I mean a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of those songs were probably and you know, there an

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<v Speaker 5>American songbook, you know, to be around for a while,

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<v Speaker 5>and and uh, you know, I was a great feeling

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<v Speaker 5>watching those and we came along in such a perfect time.

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<v Speaker 5>It was timing more than do you think that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>the record was good, but it wasn't sixty and and

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<v Speaker 5>uh and you know, grunge was big, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>record sales were dipping and nobody was you know, and

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<v Speaker 5>grunge was out and everybody was tired of being sad

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<v Speaker 5>and pissed off.

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<v Speaker 6>And we came out and said hold my Hand, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>the world said.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, weldn So what inspired you to write that?

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<v Speaker 5>Sony, our drummer, actually brought that one. He wrote that one.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's a good story. He uh he uh. We

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<v Speaker 5>were we our first drummer was leaving and we were

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<v Speaker 5>auditioning drummers and Sony came by the house and uh

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<v Speaker 5>he played with us, auditioned and then he said, I

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<v Speaker 5>got the song on what you guys did because I

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<v Speaker 5>want to start doing the mid original music and he

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<v Speaker 5>played old my hand.

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<v Speaker 6>We were like, you're the drummer.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing. Okay, So you guys going to do five albums.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know how you did, but five sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't amazing. Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>After that happens, you guys going to tour forever. Then

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<v Speaker 7>you're like, I'm gonna just pull a Hoodini and go

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<v Speaker 7>country because I'm such a badass, Like why not just

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<v Speaker 7>start from the bottom again.

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<v Speaker 5>In nineteen eighty nine, Radney Foster came In nineteen ninety,

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<v Speaker 5>Radney Foster came out with his first soulo record called

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<v Speaker 5>Del Rio Texas nineteen fifty nine amazing and I'll never

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<v Speaker 5>forget the first time I heard that record. The first

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<v Speaker 5>time I heard that record, I said, Man, I want

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<v Speaker 5>sing cunty someday because I thought the record was so great,

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<v Speaker 5>and I mean I had been a fan growing up.

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<v Speaker 6>I was a big Kenny Rogers guy.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, the opry was all you know, we

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<v Speaker 5>listened to it on the week, you know, because it

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<v Speaker 5>was for me. It was a lot of music and

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<v Speaker 5>I always wanted to hear a love music and you

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<v Speaker 5>could find you know, it was AM radio guy.

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<v Speaker 6>That's how old I am. I was an AM radio guy.

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<v Speaker 6>Just love it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you I know all the history of Offrey too.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah I do. I know, I try to study some

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<v Speaker 6>of that stuff. But uh, then I just.

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<v Speaker 5>And then we toured every year and one day Sony,

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<v Speaker 5>our drummer, said, I just don't want to tour ever.

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<v Speaker 5>You I don't want to be a touring band like

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<v Speaker 5>that anymore. And yeah, he got tired of it. And

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<v Speaker 5>so for us, I was like, Okay, I guess I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna try to make a record country record.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the rest of the band fine with it?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean we weren't gonna play okay, well we

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<v Speaker 5>were taking time off.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, everybody go do whatever you want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're like, I'm still ready to do this.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I had always felt and like I'd even said it

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<v Speaker 5>to my account a few times. I'd always said, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think my career is over. You know, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think we're done. I don't think I'm done. And and uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know McGhee, being the great manager they are, they

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<v Speaker 5>got me a record deal with Capitol. Because I say

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<v Speaker 5>it all the time, I wouldn't give me a record

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<v Speaker 5>deal because who's going to give the black lead singer

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<v Speaker 5>of a once huge band who's now they're still doing great.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, they're still doing great touring business. But you know,

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<v Speaker 6>nobody's putting.

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<v Speaker 5>Their records on the radio anymore, any new records on

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<v Speaker 5>the radio anymore. You know, they they've had that run.

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<v Speaker 5>And why would you give the black lead singer of

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<v Speaker 5>that band of dealing country music when there hasn't been

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<v Speaker 5>a black man with a hitting country music in twenty

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<v Speaker 5>five years.

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<v Speaker 3>But you said, this is in my heart of doing it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I said, but they gave me a deal.

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<v Speaker 5>I still and I still say thank you to Mike

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<v Speaker 5>Dungon all the time, because he he said he went

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<v Speaker 5>into UH the day the night he decided to give

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<v Speaker 5>me a deal, he went into his offices and he

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<v Speaker 5>pulled his all his VPS and his main staff and

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<v Speaker 5>and he they all sat in the room and he said,

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<v Speaker 5>I want you guys to know that I think I

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<v Speaker 5>want to sign it there ex Trucker and one of

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<v Speaker 5>the guys said, Hudie and everybody in that room told

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<v Speaker 5>him it was the worst idea.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd ever had, But it feels like a great idea.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't the end, but I think on this and

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<v Speaker 6>I understood why this.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's it's amazing because even when I started a

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<v Speaker 5>radio tour and stuff, I had guys who are now

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<v Speaker 5>my friends really say I thought I'd never play you

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<v Speaker 5>because I just didn't think my audience would accept an

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<v Speaker 5>African American country singer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>So had you written country songs before you started the

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<v Speaker 7>country process?

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<v Speaker 5>This is some of the Hootie records, and all those

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<v Speaker 5>country songs are mine. I brought all those songs in,

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<v Speaker 5>you know.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So when you started the country process, had you

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<v Speaker 7>started the songwriting process for the album?

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<v Speaker 3>No, So this was just like I.

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<v Speaker 6>Came in and just let's start writing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And did you get hooked up in the community with

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<v Speaker 7>the writers or have you found people you loved right with?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>I love writing with so many other guys, you know Rivers, Ruther,

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<v Speaker 5>Tim James, actually Gorley, you know, Kristi Bogg. I'm leaving

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<v Speaker 5>session to start the name of names because there's there's

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<v Speaker 5>probably thirty guys in town that could call me anytime

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<v Speaker 5>and say let's write, and I will make I'll clear

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<v Speaker 5>my schedule to go work with them because they say

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<v Speaker 5>it's great guys and great writers.

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<v Speaker 3>So you agreed to start back at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 6>That was actually that was my idea.

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<v Speaker 7>How are you just like the biggest star on earth

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<v Speaker 7>alsold sixteen million records and now you're going to start

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<v Speaker 7>back at the bottom in country music and had to

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<v Speaker 7>prove yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually went into the office for my first meeting and

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<v Speaker 5>I told them I want to do a radio tour,

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<v Speaker 5>which shocked them. They didn't think I would because it

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<v Speaker 5>was you know, because you know, you just said. I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't think I would get.

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<v Speaker 6>In a car and drive around the four radio stations

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<v Speaker 6>a day'rontwork.

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<v Speaker 5>And I said I want to be And I even

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<v Speaker 5>told the guys that booked me, and I said, look,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to be a babyman. I don't want you

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<v Speaker 5>guys to go out and say, you know, he should

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<v Speaker 5>headline or where he's be in the middle because of

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<v Speaker 5>who you both said.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I said, I'll take baby ban money and first,

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<v Speaker 6>and my first tour was first. My first tour was

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<v Speaker 6>I was first. It was Dirks, then Brad that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was my first You were first.

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<v Speaker 6>Thirty minutes. Thirty minutes. Absolutely, But I wanted to do that.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to do I wanted Nashville to see that

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't coming in here as a star. I was

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<v Speaker 5>coming in here as the new guy, and I was

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<v Speaker 5>going to work my way up. I wasn't expecting them

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<v Speaker 5>to give me anything. I was going to earn everything

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<v Speaker 5>I got.

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<v Speaker 3>And where does that mentality come from?

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<v Speaker 6>Growing up where I did? Did?

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<v Speaker 5>I grew up with nothing, you know, and I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want anybody to give me anything because when you work

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<v Speaker 5>for it, it's.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not better.

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<v Speaker 3>So you wanted to prove it.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, I want to touch me to know that first.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to know this wasn't a one off and.

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't coming in just a carpet bag and have

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<v Speaker 5>a couple and go back to the pop. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to come here and be part of country music.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I felt the way to do that was

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<v Speaker 5>to start from the bottom. I mean, go in the

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<v Speaker 5>bottom and humble yourself and then lose money. Because I

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't gonna fire fire my crew. I was gonna keep

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<v Speaker 5>the same creuse. So I was gonna have to lose

0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.000
<v Speaker 5>money to do this. But it was like, let's work

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<v Speaker 5>at us, work from the bottom up, and in the

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<v Speaker 5>long run, I think it'll be better.

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<v Speaker 3>And you, like I said earlier, you know the grand

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<v Speaker 3>old operas. So you got accepted. How is that one

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<v Speaker 3>of the.

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<v Speaker 5>Things when I got here, I told I told my management,

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<v Speaker 5>I said, I really want to play the opera as

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<v Speaker 5>much I can't, cassuo do. We tried to play operate,

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<v Speaker 5>We asked several times, and I said no because we

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<v Speaker 5>were rock bad and we understood that, and but we

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<v Speaker 5>really want and we never got to play it. And

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<v Speaker 5>so I really told him I want to play the

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<v Speaker 5>opery as much as I can. And that day I'll

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<v Speaker 5>never forget that day. I was, you know, you go

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<v Speaker 5>just another day at the opera for me, which I love.

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<v Speaker 5>It's always real out there and.

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<v Speaker 6>I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, they before I walked out, they said,

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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna have a question and answer period. After you,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, in the middle of your set. And I thought, so,

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<v Speaker 5>I've never seen that, that's never happened. Yeah, I was like,

0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:04.800
<v Speaker 5>that's never had a number. But if you guys want

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<v Speaker 5>to do it, cool, Okay. So I get out there

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<v Speaker 5>and the lady gets up and ask me a question

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<v Speaker 5>and ask it, and then another lady asked me a

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<v Speaker 5>question to answer, and then Brad Paisley stands up and

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<v Speaker 5>I thought I thought it was a practical joke because

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<v Speaker 5>I thought, I was like, it does he old me?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I think I might be one up on him?

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<v Speaker 5>And I think you and I'm really said, I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 5>this is gonna be funny. I'm about to get got

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<v Speaker 5>And when he said, uh.

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<v Speaker 6>Emotional right now, when he said do you want to

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<v Speaker 6>be a part of the Grand o Arpery? That was huge.

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<v Speaker 3>So what were the waves of emotions?

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<v Speaker 6>It was?

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<v Speaker 3>It was like and how crazy because you to with him?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and and and he he at the time and

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<v Speaker 5>so now he was probably my best friend in the

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<v Speaker 5>business really yeah, you know, and we talk all the

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<v Speaker 5>time and text all time. And it was one of

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<v Speaker 5>those things where if they had asked me why I

0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:54.320
<v Speaker 5>wanted to do that, it would have been Brad Paisley

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<v Speaker 5>and for him to be doing that and for me

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<v Speaker 5>to becoming a member of the opera, that was just

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<v Speaker 5>huge for me.

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<v Speaker 6>That was huge. It was such a there.

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<v Speaker 7>Could you believe at that moment what you had accomplished

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<v Speaker 7>your work ethic and your determination.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like you started over.

0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:11.480
<v Speaker 7>In a genre, you conquered rock, you started over in

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<v Speaker 7>a genre, and now you're accepted into the most prestigious

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<v Speaker 7>club and country music.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 5>It was, it was and it still is, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's one of those things where you know, as I

0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:23.720
<v Speaker 5>always tell my kids, you know, you got to work

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<v Speaker 5>for it, and and that's that's That's just a great

0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.040
<v Speaker 5>example of it, because I think some people if they'd

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<v Speaker 5>come if they were me and they'd come over the country,

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<v Speaker 5>they would come over with a different attitude, like, you know,

0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.280
<v Speaker 5>I've already proved myself. I sold thirty minion records. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, come on, you know, you guys just need

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<v Speaker 5>to let me in play, you know. But that wasn't

0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.520
<v Speaker 5>who I was because these people didn't have to play me.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I could have come and put out two

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<v Speaker 5>records and not had a top twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>You had three number ones right off there.

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<v Speaker 5>The number ones off the first record that was crazy

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<v Speaker 5>number one, uh, let me see, one was un thing,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think about it.

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<v Speaker 6>It was it won't be just for long. And the

0:21:57.359 --> 0:21:58.960
<v Speaker 6>other one was all right yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you also a History of the.

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<v Speaker 6>History that was on there too, and that was the

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<v Speaker 6>top five number three.

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:06.080
<v Speaker 7>So you've basically had four number ones. You came in,

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<v Speaker 7>started at the bottom, got four number ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you like, holy shit?

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 5>Yes, I'm still like holy shit, you know, I mean seriously,

0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.480
<v Speaker 5>for me, it's when don't think I went to number one.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like, are you because that's just not what

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<v Speaker 5>I just didn't That wasn't what my thinking.

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<v Speaker 6>I was thinking. I was really thinking, you know, let's

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<v Speaker 6>get this.

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<v Speaker 5>If we can get this in the top twenty, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>in the top ten, don't let me make another record.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, that's great. I got somebody paying for

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<v Speaker 5>my records. I don't have to make it myself. That's

0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:33.560
<v Speaker 5>that's awesome, And that's what I'm thinking. And then all

0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:35.159
<v Speaker 5>of a sudden gets the number one, and I'm like,

0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:37.240
<v Speaker 5>you know, you're you're freaking out. And then it's the

0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.920
<v Speaker 5>two week number one your Oh my goodness, and then

0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:43.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, then the other songs keep going up the

0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.359
<v Speaker 5>charts and all everything starts happening, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I get the get the Rascal Flats Tour and there

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:49.919
<v Speaker 5>and going out and doing that and yeah, it was,

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<v Speaker 5>it was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a fun run.

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<v Speaker 7>So you had three number ones? What drives you? What

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.680
<v Speaker 7>is your motto? Where does this come from? Like you said,

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 7>where you're from? Hard work? But like what is your do?

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:12.600
<v Speaker 7>You just have like a vision board and you're like,

0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:13.639
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to accomplish this.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't not a vision board.

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<v Speaker 5>It's more like it's more like, once I decide I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna do it, you're going to I'm gonna If I

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.560
<v Speaker 5>don't stock because I didn't work for it, Okay, you know,

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 5>if I don't get something, if it's not gonna because

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:28.359
<v Speaker 5>I didn't work as hard as I could to get it,

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 5>it's gonna be just because I couldn't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you gave everything.

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<v Speaker 6>I get everything. I U.

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<v Speaker 5>It took a toll on my life, took a toll

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<v Speaker 5>on the home life because I was I was working

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.119
<v Speaker 5>so much and we don't live here, but I have

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 5>to be here all the time. You know, always coming

0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:43.959
<v Speaker 5>to Nashville, always doing this, and it was it was

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.360
<v Speaker 5>hard work, but you know now it's so worth it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have to do music?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think so anymore.

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 5>I did for a long time in my life, but uh,

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm getting up there now. You know it's

0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:58.440
<v Speaker 5>Charles Kelly said the most perfect thing.

0:23:58.520 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 6>It was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was years ago, a couple of years ago, and

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 5>when George straight announced that he was going to retire,

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 5>and Charles and I were sitting around having a beer

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 5>and he says, Darris, you're the oldest guy in the format.

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 3>You're not.

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:10.919
<v Speaker 6>I am.

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I am, can't be.

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 6>I am. I'm older Tim McGraw, I'm old.

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 3>All we look younger than he's got in the format.

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<v Speaker 6>And that was funny. That was funny.

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.400
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of nice. You're the patriarchic country music.

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:25.920
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what. I'm the granddad. I'm the old

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 6>dude in the corner in the real tair.

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<v Speaker 3>So after you after you just hit you in the making,

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 3>now you've done.

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<v Speaker 7>Is this your fourth year on the fourth country, So

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 7>you've almost had as long of a country career as

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 7>you have of a rocker.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever think that would happen.

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<v Speaker 5>No, No, I My goal was to get to let

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 5>me make two the second record after after I got

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:48.959
<v Speaker 5>my record deal.

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:50.199
<v Speaker 6>That's really what I told myself.

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 5>Let's go work up on off and let me make

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:54.679
<v Speaker 5>another record because I loved it.

0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 6>It was fun.

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 5>I met Frank Rogers, I loved working with him. Things

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 5>were great, you know, And and so it was. It

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 5>was when it all started, when when I told myself

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 5>earlier and I wasn't going to get into the number.

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:07.200
<v Speaker 5>I didn't want to get into the number this game

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:10.919
<v Speaker 5>because when you're when you're watching charts and everything that sucks,

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 5>it's because it moved.

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 6>They moved so slow and you're watching the charts. So

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 6>I told myselone to get into that and didn't. I didn't.

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 5>And and so when I mean people that you could

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 5>have to come up with me and go, you know,

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 5>you've got a top ten record again, I was like, cool,

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know, you know, And I don't think I

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:26.200
<v Speaker 5>ever saw a number one.

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 6>It was always somebody called me going number one this week? Cool?

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:33.399
<v Speaker 7>Do you set your expectations at zero? You work hard,

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 7>but do you have or do you set your expectations?

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 5>I think something if it's a different situation. I think

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 5>in this situation, I set my expect expectations so low

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:45.919
<v Speaker 5>because if you looked at the picture, it just seemed

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 5>like to want seven eight number ones and say I'm

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 5>going to do this and have four number one records

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 5>that would have that just didn't seem to be really feasible. Yeah,

0:25:56.200 --> 0:26:00.399
<v Speaker 5>the way this landscape of the whole the whole play was,

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 5>it just doesn't seem like feasible. So I just wanted

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:05.400
<v Speaker 5>to be a small part of the community. Like you said,

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 5>get somebody to pay.

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:06.679
<v Speaker 6>For my records.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I wanted on a team.

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, absolutely, I want somebody to pay for my records.

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 5>And you know it turned into more than that.

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 3>So what's the difference between rock, the rock genre and

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 3>the country.

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 5>What's the one thing about when rock do you can

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 5>you can say anything you know? Rock and pop you

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 5>can say anything you want. Doesn't have to make sense.

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 5>What do you mean, who let dogs out?

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:30.680
<v Speaker 3>What does that even mean?

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 6>My point exactly, huge song?

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Who let the Dogs out?

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 5>Number one song? Huge song meant nothing? Didn't no meaning?

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 5>In country music, that'un. In country music, you always have

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 5>to have your song has to have a story.

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 6>It has to mean something.

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I listened to even the songs that you

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 5>think are just you know, throw away songs or songs

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 5>that are or nothing because they're they're so popular whatever,

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 5>if you listen to the words, the words are so

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 5>great and the story is so great, and they're talking

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 5>about something and I love that. And and you always

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 5>hear about the fan loyalty, and I'll tell you that's true.

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's it's it's it's unbelievable. Country music. I always say,

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 6>pop and rock is always.

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 5>Looking for the big the the next big thing, and

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.120
<v Speaker 5>country music wants the next big thing, but they also

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 5>want that blanket that's on their bed that's been keeping

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 5>them warm for three years.

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know I love that.

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 3>Who are your greatest? Who do you admire?

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 5>And country the biggest idol? Every time I opened my mouth,

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:28.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to be Radney Foster. No, you haven't written

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:30.919
<v Speaker 5>a few songs together. We've done some shows together. He's

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 5>a friend, and he's that, he's a he's such, he's

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 5>when you talk about meeting the guy.

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 6>Him being the way you wanted to be. Radney Foster

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 6>was the.

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 5>Way I wanted to be he was the nicest human being,

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 5>so so humble, and the first time we met, I

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:46.879
<v Speaker 5>told the story. I told him the story, and uh

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 5>he I want to see him play when he was

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 5>in Foster and Lloyd in this club and I showed

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 5>up Blate because I was working selling records and I

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 5>had to close the store down. I showed up and

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 5>I missed by three songs, three four songs.

0:27:57.840 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 6>And I get there.

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.400
<v Speaker 5>And of course, you know, bars packed. I'm the only

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 5>black at the bar, and you know, make my way

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.120
<v Speaker 5>up to the front. I mean, I get there late,

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 5>and I make my way up to the front because

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 5>it's Foster and Lloyd night, missing it and I'm up

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 5>there and it's about after about ten songs. I'm starting

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 5>to get little buzz, you know, and I'm start yelling,

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 5>you know, play you can come crying to me. You know,

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 5>they're not you know, they're ignoring me. And so they

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 5>go away, and they do, they do. They're coming back

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 5>for the encore. And when I come back to the encore,

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 5>sure there's that jerk again in the front row. You know,

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 5>play you can come crying to me. So Radney being

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 5>a nice guy who has looked over at me, and said,

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 5>hey man, I think you came in kind of late,

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 5>because you know, we played that early in the show.

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 5>And I looked at him and say, hey man, I'm

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.239
<v Speaker 5>the only black dude in this place, and you mean

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 5>to tell me you can't play the one song I'm

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 5>asking you to play. And Bill looked at him, goes

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 5>he is and they played it again. They did yeah,

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 5>and uh I told him that story and he couldn't

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 5>He couldn't believe that was me.

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 6>He's like, that was you. So he said, I told

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 6>that story a million times. I didn't know that was your. Yeah,

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 6>that was me.

0:28:58.120 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 5>No, we had met, I had made it. I mean

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 5>who he had me at this time. We were still

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 5>a club band at the time. Yeah, we were clubbing

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 5>it when when all that went down, and so he

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 5>was like, wow, I can't believe that was you.

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 6>I told that story a million times. It was like, dude,

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 6>that was me.

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Full circle, full circle. I mean that comes back around absolutely.

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 7>And that's kind of interesting that Radney Foster is the

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 7>one you pick because he's more obscure.

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 3>He's not like mainstream country. Do you like that kind

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 3>of Yeah?

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 6>I think the people I love I don't mind. I

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 6>like me not.

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 5>I don't mind that I like mainstream country. But the

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 5>guys that I love, I love. I love it Nancy Griffith,

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 5>I love Dwight Yoakum, I love Radney Foster and Lloyd

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 5>you know those Doc Watson country records, like the Portrait

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that.

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 6>Those are the records that I love.

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 5>I just when I was just engulfed in that stuff,

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't listening.

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 6>To a lot of country because I was listening to

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 6>all those records.

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 3>You're a lyric, yeah, always. What do you like to

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 3>write about?

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 6>Oh? I like to write about everything. You know.

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 5>It seems like in the first records, I was always

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 5>writing about life, you know, my life and what was

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 5>going on. And you know, later on you start think

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 5>he's write about stuff that happen before or where you

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 5>are now.

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 6>But I just I'm just like to write a long

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 6>the lyric is good. I like to write it.

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 7>And then you cut an outside song that was yeah,

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 7>which I had always loved.

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I had too, but I never thought about cutting it.

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 6>How did you?

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 3>How did that come about?

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 5>Oh, this is a cool story. I was my oldest daughter, Carrie.

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 5>She was in a high school talent show, and so

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 5>I went to see it. And I was in the

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 5>middle of making my record and I went to see it,

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 5>and I'm sitting there and, uh, the faculty band I'm

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 5>talking about two janitors and like four teachers get up

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 5>their band and they and they start playing wagon Wheel

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 5>and they playing it really country with drums and everything.

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 5>And I'm sitting there going, I never heard wagon witheel

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 5>like that. I always thot it was such a bluegrass song.

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 5>I'd never heard the country and they're playing it in

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 5>the middle of the second verse. I'm texting my texting

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 5>Frank Rogers, my producer, going, dude, you remember that wagon

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 5>Wheel song. I was like, yeah, you know, I don't

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 5>think we should cut. A lot of people cut it,

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 5>I said, dude, it all the way ISA were cutting it,

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:00.479
<v Speaker 5>and we cut it, and that that thing took when

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 5>we put lady A on it is when I when

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 5>we first kind of I went cool, great last song

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 5>on the record, it would be awesome, never thought it'd

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 5>be a single, and then we put lady A on

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 5>it and they just went.

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 6>To a new level.

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So was that one of your biggest songs?

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 6>That was a big song? I hadn't cut your music.

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, okay, what else have you've been married to

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 7>the same woman, Bethy, she's beautiful. You have given me

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 7>some marriage advice. Do you have any marriage advice? Like?

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 3>How? Because she's been through the whole hooting the.

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 6>Book, she's been we've been together seventeen years.

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 3>How what is the secret?

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 6>You can't.

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 5>First, of course, love is a secret, is one of

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 5>the secrets. But you have to make time for each other.

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 5>And I mean from us, so you know it is.

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.239
<v Speaker 5>And we're on the road so much. And now when

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 5>you have a kid, it's not like she can just

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 5>pack us on the road with me when the kids

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 5>got school and everything. So we gotta make time for

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 5>each other. I think our secret is we've both just

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 5>decided that we're gonna say together.

0:31:58.400 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm sure if you asked both of us,

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.719
<v Speaker 5>we could say, yeah. We've both given each other reasons

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 5>we could leave. Well, we can, you know, but we've

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 5>decided to stay together. And and it's come in and

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 5>we work. We work on our marriage. It's not easy

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 5>by any stretched imagination.

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 3>People who don't work on the dage. You have to

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 3>work on yourriage like anything else.

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And I think that's and then and

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 5>I think for me, it took me a while to

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 5>get that becoming dude, you know, and I thought, I'm

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 5>providing everything's good.

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 5>We have a great life, you know, and and no,

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 5>we had to make it a great life. Les would

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 5>be great just because we can live where everyone go

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 5>where it was got to be great because I want

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 5>to talk to you, you know a little sit on

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 5>the beach and have a conversation. I want to settle

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 5>the back porch and have a conversation. Yeah, and that's

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 5>those are the things that are that.

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 6>That keep it together.

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 3>I love that. So I'm looking at your watch.

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:49.959
<v Speaker 7>You get my husband and a thousand horses first off, Graham,

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 7>and you have a little gras.

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 5>My bro's the most important member of the band.

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 7>Yes, Like the last night of tour when they tore

0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 7>to all last year, Darius is like.

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Here's the band, a thousand horses, and here's great feat

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 3>the only one that matters. You actually have such a bruman.

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 3>You bought him some shoes.

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 3>He wears those things with so much pride. Yeah, because

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 3>they're they're beautiful.

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 5>I have this great company called Old Old Star out

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 5>in California that makes a handmakes these And I remember

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 5>we were hanging out with the horses just when they

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 5>just got.

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 3>The love you so much.

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 6>I know I love them too.

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Isn't a beautful love?

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 6>Absolutely?

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 5>That's why I was so disappointed when they end the

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 5>last year, because I knew we had been on tour

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 5>for almost two years together. Yeah, and you know there

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 5>were boys, yeah, and you know, and I'm so proud,

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 5>so proud of so proud of me doing great.

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 7>I love those guys they are Yeah, so you got Yeah,

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 7>And it was.

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 5>This thing where I started, and I started with I

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 5>started it with Graham, the first guy in the band

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 5>who mentioned my boots.

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 6>I gave a pair.

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 5>And so Graham was the first guy who said, uh,

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 5>hey man, I love your boots.

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 6>You are what size you wear?

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 5>And he told me and I don't think you thought

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 5>I was serious. And then the next my song, I

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 5>wanted up there, man, there's your boots. And that's now

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 5>a ritual with me, like really, with Dan and Jay,

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:06.719
<v Speaker 5>the first one of those guys that go, hey, man,

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 5>I love your boots.

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 6>They're gonna get a pair of boots.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 3>That's awesome, that's amazing.

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 7>Okay, I'm gonna wrap it up because I know you

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 7>got to go do the grand off. Yes, but I

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 7>like to end each episode with a little segment called

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 7>leave your Light.

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so like, leave me some inspiration, leave.

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 5>You some uh. You know, I'm looking looking around at

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 5>the world and everything has happened. I was talking about

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 5>this last night. So many, so many disasters and so

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 5>many bad things happen, and you know, I just I

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.800
<v Speaker 5>think the more you can be nice it would be

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 5>good to one person at a time, the better the

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 5>world is going to be. There's so many people go

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 5>through life, go through a day not once doing something

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 5>nice for somebody else. And I think every day, try

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 5>to do one good thing. If it's just you know,

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 5>if it's just shake off somebody's hand, or pat some

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 5>one in the back, or you know that's somebody you

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 5>know you have a good day today, Do something nice

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 5>for somebody every day at least once.

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 3>I love that. Will you actually have ruputation to be

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 3>one of the nicest men in country music? Oh, thank you, yeah, thank.

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 7>You, thank you, Darius, thank you, thank.

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 6>You, Carl.

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 4>She's the Queen of talking.

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 6>He was sown