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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody, Welcome to Move the Sticks. It's d

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Speaker 2: J buck in a very happy ret. I don't know

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Speaker 2: why he's smiling so much. He's he's fired up to

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Speaker 2: be here.

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Speaker 1: Guys might be here, you know, just uh excited. Got

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Speaker 1: to hang out with Bucky on Sunday for NFL Live

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Speaker 1: for Remember we used to have the old Move the

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Speaker 1: Sticks team on Game Day Live.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, while didn't get the complimentary peaces that we used

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Speaker 3: to get on that show.

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Speaker 4: I just had to sit up in here and.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, they used to Man, that was big.

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Speaker 4: That was big.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think none of them because Lionel is no

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Speaker 1: longer with us to bring the pizzas out and he

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Speaker 1: slipped one pan pizzas took a tumble.

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Speaker 2: That was unfortunate. That was That was a great effort,

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Speaker 2: but it was tough. We're going to get into these games.

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Speaker 2: We always pull out eight games. We dig dig into

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Speaker 2: those a little deeper and then we'll have some comments

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Speaker 2: on some of the other ones. At the end, it

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Speaker 2: was a man, it was a short night here. I

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Speaker 2: can't complain because I've got rhet who's going back and

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Speaker 2: forth to Indiana and doing big ten games every single week.

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Speaker 4: A lot of travel there.

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Speaker 2: I've got Bunk who's done two international trips where he

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Speaker 2: So I'm not going to complain about the early am

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Speaker 2: arrival after the afternoon game became the city. But it

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Speaker 2: was a It was a long day, not only from

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Speaker 2: a travel standpoint, but a long day for the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: They lose thirty one to seventeen to the Chiefs, the

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Speaker 2: rare two score game for the Chargers. You don't see

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Speaker 2: many of those. Those are like a bigfoot, you know,

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Speaker 2: it usually comes down.

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Speaker 4: I was like a game out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird, but again you had it was

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Speaker 2: really a one score game down to the very end

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Speaker 2: till a punt return by the Chiefs by Mikole Hardman

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Speaker 2: put them in position to make a two score game late.

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot to get to with this. I

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Speaker 2: will look at it. I'll look at it from the

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Speaker 2: Charger side of things, and I'll start just kind of

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Speaker 2: the tail of two halves. Man, you had an offense

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Speaker 2: that was up and down the field in the first half.

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Speaker 2: Feeling good about it, in the defense was terrible. In

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Speaker 2: the second half. You had a defense that made some

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Speaker 2: I thought some pretty obvious adjustments that needed to be made,

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Speaker 2: I e. Playing for the man coverage, yeah, and given

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Speaker 2: Derwin James a chance to match up well with Travis Kelce.

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Speaker 2: And then so the defense gets better than offense. Can't

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Speaker 2: move the ball. They had favorable field position off of

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Speaker 2: some defensive stops, could not do anything with it. So

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Speaker 2: just kind of an unconnected game. But I want to

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Speaker 2: one of the things that's frustrating calling the Charger games

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Speaker 2: every week is I feel like, man, they get hit

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Speaker 2: with the right hand a lot. Like when you're going

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Speaker 2: to play the Miami Dolphins, your attention probably should be

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Speaker 2: on Tyreek Hill and trying to take him away he

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Speaker 2: goes over two hundred yards. When you're playing the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: you let Ceedee Lamb get loose. Micah Parsons is where

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Speaker 2: you should focus your attention. Like, Hey, anybody else beats us,

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Speaker 2: but Michah Parsons has the two big rushes at the

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Speaker 2: end of the game that end up stealing the game.

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby, even in a win, I think had two

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Speaker 4: And he beats you, he beats you. You live with that.

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Speaker 2: But to come out and play so much his own coverage,

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Speaker 2: to come out and give free access to Kelsey and

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Speaker 2: then I mean, I freeze the picture I sent you guys,

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Speaker 2: every down he's on the field. But on third down

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Speaker 2: there's nobody within ten yards of him in the middle

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Speaker 2: And I just think, Man, after a game, you get

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Speaker 2: you know what, man, we hey last year in a game,

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Speaker 2: You know what we put our best on their best.

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Speaker 2: He got us, but to just give free access, that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it's funny. Right.

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Speaker 3: So we're in the midst of this period where everyone

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Speaker 3: one thing that we are respect about Belichick is his

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Speaker 3: ability to make the opponent play left handed. And we've

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Speaker 3: seen him use basically the pub return coverage where he'll

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Speaker 3: this guy's not in play, he's done any critical downs.

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Speaker 3: He's the master of double coverage tactics. He will not

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Speaker 4: And I understand, Hey, we're just going to do what

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Speaker 3: How that's been successful for some But I guess the

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Speaker 3: when Travis Kelce is the main event, Gosh, you gotta

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Speaker 3: let MVS or somebody else beach. You can't let him

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Speaker 3: have not only have twelve kids, but he can't go

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Speaker 3: over one hundred yards in the first half. Like, it

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Speaker 3: something to make them uncomfortable, make them go farther down

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Speaker 3: the place. She don't let them just stop it at

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Speaker 3: segment A. Make them at least get the B or C.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you this quick follow up,

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Speaker 2: why would you not just play two man against that

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Speaker 2: if they want to Pacheco to run the ball thirty times,

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Speaker 2: then we'll take our chances. You know, we're gonna play

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Speaker 2: two man and we're just gonna say, okay, that's because

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Speaker 2: that is like fuck just from a seven on seven

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can do it. You can do it

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Speaker 5: Simple too.

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Speaker 2: There's simple hesitation. There's no thinking I've got him, I've

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Speaker 4: That's it. That's it.

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Speaker 2: I've got him, I've got help, that's it.

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Speaker 3: It should be very very simple, and it should be

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Speaker 4: He said, if Pat.

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Speaker 3: Mahomes runs four hundred yards, we'll live with But they're

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Speaker 3: not going to give up the explosives. We're going to

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Speaker 3: take away their main options. And that's what they did.

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Speaker 3: And look, the Chargers had the game, therefore him because

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Speaker 3: the game was even Stephen, but you have to you

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Speaker 3: cannot allow Travis Kelsey to go be it because no

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Speaker 4: Let somebody else have a monster day.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I will just say, because you guys covered it,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, it seems odd right that year,

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Speaker 1: but that it also feels like that's part of the

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Speaker 1: not going to completely change what we do based on

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Speaker 1: the plan, right, But I will say, you know, it

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Speaker 1: did force Britney Mahomes and Travis Kelsey's significant other now

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Speaker 1: you might know her name, to adjust their new celebratory

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Speaker 1: Kelsey was working in the first half. They had to

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Speaker 1: come up with a new adjustment on the handshakee because

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Speaker 1: which meant that things were probably going pretty well for

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Speaker 1: number eighty seven in Red. I mean, it's just incredible

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Speaker 1: the way that they they're able to continue to find,

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Speaker 2: Kelsey better, it's different, it's different, It's totally I think

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Speaker 3: I think it's different. I would say the difference is

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Speaker 3: in my first glance there's more freestyle than more. I

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Speaker 4: But they played all the time. Yeah, so Gronk was

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Speaker 4: Gronk was different. Though.

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Speaker 2: Gronk was contested catches and run after catch like you

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Speaker 2: could not physically get him on the ground. There's all

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Speaker 2: the players of guy's bouncing off of him as he

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Speaker 2: just kind of rumbling down the field, hanged bodies hanging

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Speaker 2: on him like that. Kelsey is gonna work in zones

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get what he gets, but like he's not

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Speaker 2: in the run game, it's not even I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: not even close.

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Speaker 5: No, I just meant. I just meant on chemistry with

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Speaker 2: They have, unbelievab chemistry. There was a next inst that

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Speaker 2: that they had completed like twenty nine straight balls when targeted.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes had completed twenty nine straight to Kelsey, think about

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Speaker 2: how crazy that is. They had the probability of like

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Speaker 2: point zero three percent of that happening. Like that's that's

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Speaker 2: how stupid it was, And I do want to say

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Speaker 2: one thing as we move on here. The Chiefs defense

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Speaker 2: One of the things that they do that I love,

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Speaker 2: Like you watch a guy like Lugerius snead Buck. They

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Speaker 2: get the hands on people every snap, like they don't

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Speaker 2: give free access. In a league where so much of

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Speaker 2: the passing game is rhythm and timing based, it seems

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Speaker 2: like it's not that you know, complicated that it's it

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Speaker 2: reroute them just a little bit. Now, they still give

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Speaker 2: up some explosives down the field because Chargers have players,

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Speaker 2: but they don't make it easy on you defensively.

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Speaker 4: So it's funny, DJ you talked about that.

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Speaker 3: It is one of the things that drives me crazy,

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Speaker 3: Like you see guys just playing off and just conceding

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Speaker 4: But what that did.

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Speaker 4: No, that's big. I think that's a great point. RT.

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Speaker 1: This game is again, you know, probably not what you want.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, you're in and out.

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Speaker 1: You're you got an opportunity there, game time touchdown, you know,

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Speaker 4: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's ridiculous. I had a storder with.

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Speaker 2: Just Kelsey, so I didn't want to make it one.

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Speaker 3: Because you guys like you have a quarterback in DJ

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Speaker 1: Here's the one thing I'll say is generally, you know

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Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, you know what, I I screwed that up.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: And what it's gonna do is gonna build my credibility

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just annoying to watch an

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Speaker 2: It's the rule that we've always said, which is it's

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Speaker 4: That's it. Rhet.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, great question. And you know, I think you

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 1: Like I spent my morning like googling superheroes and I'm like,

435
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Speaker 1: you know what, none of these guys are as good

436
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Speaker 1: as Miles Garrett.

437
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

438
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like he's the Hulk, He's the Flash,

439
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 1: He's like the Silver Surfer, iron Man, whatever you want

440
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Speaker 1: to call him.

441
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Speaker 5: Like he's all into one. Nobody does you.

442
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Speaker 4: There's there are so few.

443
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Speaker 1: Humans on this planet that can do what he did

444
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Speaker 1: on that field goal block at his sides and then

445
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Speaker 1: and then obviously you know the speed and the power

446
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Speaker 1: that he's got off the edge to create that.

447
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Speaker 5: Turnover in the end zone.

448
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Speaker 1: I mean, those were game changing plays and those are

449
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Speaker 1: plays that you got to have when you're playing a

450
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Speaker 1: quarterback you know who you know didn't start the game

451
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Speaker 1: and it made just one start for your team before that.

452
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Speaker 1: And obviously you know, isn't you know, one of the

453
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Speaker 1: top five quarterbacks in the league. So I mean, like,

454
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 1: dude just takes it and puts it all on his shoulders.

455
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Speaker 1: And Jim Schwartz, I mean, credit again to what they

456
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Speaker 1: do defensively to set him up for success, but he

457
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Speaker 1: beats double teams. I mean like it's almost like what

458
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Speaker 1: else Shan Steyke is like, what else do you mean

459
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Speaker 1: to do?

460
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Speaker 4: You know?

461
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Speaker 1: I just I feel like, you know, the fact that

462
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Speaker 1: he passes Reggie White for the most sacks by a

463
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Speaker 1: player before turning twenty eight years old, I think just

464
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Speaker 1: kind of makes you sit back for a second and

465
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Speaker 1: go like, Okay, let's appreciate fully what we're seeing here.

466
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, no question, Buck, what's your take?

467
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 1: I know you you see the Colts inside that division,

468
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Speaker 1: follow that team that they've they're that competitive in that game.

469
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Speaker 1: I don't win, there's no moral victories. But to me,

470
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Speaker 1: when you lose Richardson for the year and you've got

471
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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew out there and rhet talked about you get

472
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Speaker 1: some of the good, but you're going to get the

473
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Speaker 1: turnovers through all that.

474
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Speaker 4: I mean it's a one point game. Yeah, No, really

475
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 4: scrappy team.

476
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Speaker 3: And I think we talked about it like, this is

477
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Speaker 3: a team that has gone all in on the prototypes.

478
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Speaker 4: You know, at the position.

479
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Speaker 3: They were the ones that took all the guys with

480
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Speaker 3: the testing numbers and the heightway sides of speed and

481
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,719
Speaker 3: all that, and so this is a team that plays

482
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Speaker 3: fast and they've been put in a scheme where we

483
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Speaker 3: kind of talked about if you take great athletes and

484
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Speaker 3: you have a collection of teachers on your coaching staff,

485
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Speaker 3: what could it look like.

486
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Speaker 4: And that's kind of what we're seeing. The Colts are

487
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Speaker 4: showing you.

488
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Speaker 3: Hey, if you have great teachers and you take the

489
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Speaker 3: best athletes that are available in the draft, you might

490
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Speaker 3: be able to put together a good team if you

491
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Speaker 3: have the right teachers that are willing to put them

492
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Speaker 3: on the field, because they play much better than you

493
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Speaker 3: would think their roster was suggested they play based on

494
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Speaker 3: the experience, and what they have to me is the

495
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Speaker 3: credit of the coaching staff and the scouting department being

496
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Speaker 3: on the same page. And I think the future is

497
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Speaker 3: bright in Indianapolis when they continue to add more pieces

498
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Speaker 3: to the puzzle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a nice see Josh downs go five for a buck,

500
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Speaker 2: twenty five and a touchdown. So nobody took him in

501
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Speaker 2: the rookie drafts?

502
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Speaker 4: And what are we doing?

503
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Speaker 3: You know, it would have been nice if you were

504
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Speaker 3: still the chapel, you know, that's what That's what I was.

505
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Speaker 4: How about that? Yeah, that's a tough one.

506
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Speaker 2: Look, look, rehtt and I know we can't say anything

507
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Speaker 2: without a way nothing.

508
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Speaker 4: But but it would be nice. It would be nice.

509
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Speaker 2: And vison jebeo doing it freaking the who's gotcha? Is

510
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Speaker 2: that what they call themselves?

511
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Speaker 4: By the way I think they do? Yeah?

512
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Speaker 2: Who whatever, Yeah whatever. Anyways, tough one for the tar Heels.

513
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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take quick break. We come back.

514
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about the big Sunday night matchup between the

515
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Speaker 2: Dolphins and the Eagles right after this. All right, this

516
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: was probably the game of the week, not probably, this

517
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Speaker 2: was the game of the week one that I got

518
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Speaker 2: to see the first half on watching it on my

519
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: phone on the bus on the way to the airport,

520
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: and then then just saw the score a teend of

521
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Speaker 2: the game, and then was excited to get up this

522
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Speaker 2: morning and uh and watch the tape, watched all twenty

523
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Speaker 2: two and see you know what happened in this game.

524
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Speaker 2: And I the first thing I did is I popped

525
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Speaker 2: on the Dolphins offense because when you look at it,

526
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Speaker 2: when they only have seventeen points and seven came via

527
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Speaker 2: the defense, You're like, okay, ten points. This is the

528
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Speaker 2: most explosive, the most dynamic offense in the league. Like

529
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Speaker 2: did the Eagles, what'd they do? How'd they shut this

530
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Speaker 2: thing down? And I'll start with the positives for the Dolphins.

531
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Speaker 2: Don't panic, don't if you're a Dolphins fan, They're fine.

532
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: They had so many snaps on the other side of

533
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Speaker 2: the fifty. I mean, they had so many opportunities, and

534
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Speaker 2: then and then they exhaust on downs on one on

535
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: a fourth and three, they don't aren't able to convert.

536
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: You have to pick uh, you know, towards the end

537
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Speaker 2: of the game in the in the red zone, they

538
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 2: they had they had a touchdown called back. They had

539
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Speaker 2: what would have been a touchdown to Tyreek Hill. He

540
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: somehow bobbles I mean, he kind of almost kneed the

541
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Speaker 2: ball out of his own hands on the running into

542
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Speaker 2: the end zone. Like, there was a lot of opportunity

543
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: for them in this game, and some of it was

544
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 2: was definitely self inflicted. Now, the Eagles did a nice

545
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Speaker 2: job of what we've talked about in the past when

546
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Speaker 2: you play this team, if you can get your linebackers

547
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Speaker 2: to get back there and get depth, which was nice

548
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Speaker 2: to see. I thought, you know, watching back the tape

549
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Speaker 2: of this game, Nikobe Dean was the first time I

550
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 2: kind of got excited about seeing him and what he

551
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: was doing running around, which was great to see. But

552
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna play, They're gonna try and get after you

553
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: up front, and they forced some big penalties, so it

554
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: wasn't just the you know, they had what three sacks

555
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: I believe in this game. It was nice to see

556
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Speaker 2: the first sack of Nolan Smith's career. He was unblocked

557
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: but got his first sack. Yeah, but what sweat was

558
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: really active that you know, Jalen Carter, you know, drew

559
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Speaker 2: a penalty. Like they they were able to get them

560
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: off schedule with some penalties that showed you the impact

561
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: of their front. Their their defense played well. That being said,

562
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Speaker 2: they were still ops. There were still ops for Miami

563
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: in this game. And I think my biggest takeaway was

564
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Speaker 2: not what I anticipated. I thought I was gonna watch

565
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Speaker 2: it and come away saying, man, the Eagles, they dominated

566
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Speaker 2: them defensively. And I came away saying, you know what,

567
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 2: the Eagles played well enough, and I thought the Miami

568
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: Dolphins left little meat on the bone.

569
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Speaker 4: I mean, I like, I would go there. I would.

570
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Speaker 3: I would say, here's here's the thing. We talked about

571
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Speaker 3: these teams being built very similar on on the podcast

572
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Speaker 3: in terms of like how they've been constructed, the way

573
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Speaker 3: they they they've done it. I would say that the

574
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Speaker 3: Eagles depth has certainly helped them because they can just

575
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Speaker 3: bring so many different waves. I would also say that

576
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 3: the Eagles are much faster team than I anticipated because

577
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Speaker 3: some of the trickery that the Dolphins have utilized to

578
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 3: create big plays they were minimal games. I mean, this

579
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: is a team that is basically running a version of

580
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Speaker 3: the wing tea with all the spinner series, the packages,

581
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: the coming one way, coming around yeah, and they really

582
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: try and get you out of source, but the Eagles

583
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Speaker 3: are able to run them down and meet them at

584
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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. And so for a team that

585
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Speaker 3: really specializes they're running in the sea gap, which is

586
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: like the gap between the tackling the tight end they

587
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: want to run outside. Eagle speed and explosiveness really showed

588
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 3: up to me when I looked at this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where you know, depth along the defensive front.

590
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Speaker 1: You know where you got those guys, and you've got

591
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Speaker 1: multiple dudes that you can keep rolling in there. I

592
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Speaker 1: also think that that you know, we've talked about this

593
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Speaker 1: kind of the last couple of weeks, but for Miami,

594
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Speaker 1: you know, their depth along the offensive line has been

595
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Speaker 1: challenged in the last couple of weeks, you know, with

596
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Speaker 1: Tron Armstead kind of being in and out and he's

597
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: gonna be out for a few weeks, and Connor Williams,

598
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Speaker 1: you know, was a big loss for them at center.

599
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Speaker 1: I think even Eikenberg ended up with a with a

600
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: couple of pre snaps penalties on there that that affected them,

601
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Speaker 1: And like, I don't know how natural the center he

602
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Speaker 1: really he is, but Connor Williams has been a really

603
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: good player for them. So I just I think a

604
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: little bit of a confluence of events there. You meet,

605
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Speaker 1: you know, you're less than full strength on your offensive front,

606
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Speaker 1: and then you meet a defensive group that is as

607
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Speaker 1: deep and talented and fast and physical as you're probably

608
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Speaker 1: going to see this season.

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Speaker 5: And that's basically what happened. Forty five rushing yards.

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Speaker 1: I mean that that has become such a big piece, right,

611
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Speaker 1: It's not just a flash and dash of Tyreek Hill,

612
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Speaker 1: by the way, missed a couple of opportunities himself as

613
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Speaker 1: you were talking about Tej. But yeah, I just I

614
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Speaker 1: think when they can't when they can't get some of

615
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Speaker 1: that run game stuff going, you know, this offense kind

616
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Speaker 1: of struggles a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, one of the things I was thinking

618
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Speaker 4: from the eagle side of things. You know, A J.

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Speaker 2: Brown has another huge game, ten for a buck thirty

620
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Speaker 2: seven and a touchdown god Or got in the end zone.

621
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Speaker 2: Had a nice day. He's having a really good year.

622
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, guys is so rugged and so tough. He's

623
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Speaker 2: beat up in this game. He still manages to make

624
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: the plays he needs to make. It's two hundred and

625
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: seventy nine yards, a couple passing touchdowns, there's an interception,

626
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: there's some other throws I know he'd like to have back.

627
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: You know, they did the sneak thing a zillion times.

628
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: He had eleven carries for twenty one yards, So I

629
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Speaker 2: mean it's just kind of a rugged, rugged day, including

630
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Speaker 2: a touchdown, and that the takeaway that I had though

631
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 2: from their side of things, is maybe the player that

632
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: holds the keys to who's going to come out of

633
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 2: the NFC is going to be Marcus Mariota because I

634
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: know his knees hurt. I don't know if Jalen plays

635
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: this week. Maybe he's fine, maybe he's able to get

636
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: through this injury, but the way that he's used, he's

637
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: going to miss some games. So you know, whether that's

638
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: one game, two games, you know for I don't know,

639
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 2: but you can't. I don't care how strong he is.

640
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: I know he's incredibly tough, he's incredibly strong, how rugged

641
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: he plays, buck He's not going to be there for

642
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: seventeen weeks this year. He's going to miss some time.

643
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: And when you think about how even the forty nine

644
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: ers and the Eagles are and we know this is

645
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 2: a collision course that we are headed towards.

646
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 4: Yep.

647
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: If it's a three game sample size with Marcus Mariota,

648
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: he could hold the keys of who has home field

649
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: advantage in the NFC. I really that was my takeaway

650
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: watching this game.

651
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then watching the game because Jalen did come

652
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: out with the second in the second half, he had

653
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: the knee brace on. He didn't really talk about it

654
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 3: in the postgame interview. He got to just everyone's dealing

655
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: with stuff, be fine, but to just work you wonder, Okay,

656
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: if this is an injury, is it best to sit

657
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: him now, let him get fully healthy, or are you

658
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: going to try and let him grind it out and

659
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: then potentially lose him when it matters down the stretch.

660
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 4: I mean, I gotta be careful.

661
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm looking at this, Bucky.

662
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: And just to chime in here briefly, next two games

663
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 1: Commanders and Cowboys, So two division games, then you got

664
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: the bye week Week ten, and then how about this

665
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: four game, five game stretch? Really, Chiefs Bills, forty nine, Ers, Cowboys, Seahawks.

666
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: Coming out of the buy for Philly, it almost seems

667
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: like Red if you're going to make the move this is.

668
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 4: The time, yeah, ahead of the bye and then attack

669
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: by on the end of it.

670
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you think, hey, we should be able to

671
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: get with the Commanders without him, even if we drop

672
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 3: one to the Cowboys. Now, we should be able to

673
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 3: get them on the back end.

674
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: We have the buye.

675
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: They'll give you three almost four full weeks for him

676
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: to get right and to be available for that stretch

677
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: run depending on what.

678
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to pick on anybody here, but

679
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean, just what we saw from Marcus Mariota in

680
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: the preseason.

681
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: Feel that's what. But that's why I'm saying, that's why

682
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: I think it's so key. Yeah, you know, I have

683
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: my doubts for sure. This is not you know, when

684
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew was in that spot, you felt okay about it.

685
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: I don't feel great about Marcus Mariota, but I would

686
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: say that they you know, this team has kind of

687
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: a grit and the toughness that that's where the defense

688
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: will crank it up a notch and they'll run the ball.

689
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: You know, there's at least a there And I think

690
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: Bucky's point, you can you can navigate these maybe these

691
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: next games with that after the bye, with that slate

692
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: that you just I don't think you want to navigate

693
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: those games, don't.

694
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: And you need him.

695
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: You need him as as close to full strength as

696
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 3: you can get for that for that run. And so

697
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: if you if you can sit him down and get

698
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: them back healthy after the bat you should do it

699
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,239
Speaker 3: because that's where you're really going to need him. If

700
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: you can go one and one coming out of this stretch, Look,

701
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: you're not going to fall back much, if at all.

702
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: And if you're the Eagles, you probably think you can

703
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: win both of them if you get it done.

704
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: And and if you if you drop one of these,

705
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: now Buck, well you've got the head to head with

706
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: the Niners. So if you have if you have Jalen

707
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: healthy and you go win that game, that's like win two. Yeah,

708
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: so that would be big. The beatdown of the week,

709
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: by the way, Holy moly, wow was your game here?

710
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: Buck?

711
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: That was the Ravens just beating the stuffing out of

712
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: the Lions.

713
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: You know what.

714
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: I feel like this was a message to me because

715
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: I sitting here talking about this offense with Monken. I

716
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: went on TV a weeke and some change ago. Oh Rare,

717
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: were you dead today? I was talking about them playing volleyball. Yes, yes,

718
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: it was Thursday night. Yeah, Thursday night date. Yeah, seven drops.

719
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I didn't know that the Ravens

720
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: had a volleyball team. But they just they're just knocking

721
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: everything down and then all of a sudden, this offense

722
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: shows up and Lamar Jackson looks like MVP Lamar Jackson.

723
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: The way they're throwing it, the way he's running around,

724
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: the offense.

725
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 4: Is clicking fifty seven, Like I looked.

726
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: This was not on my bingo, This is not on

727
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: my bago. Cord Man, I would say this, as much

728
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: as everyone's gonna talk about the offense, I think we

729
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: might have been slipping sleeping on the defense.

730
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 4: I think I agreed.

731
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: Third game, Yeah, third game with Aphil teams to ten

732
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: points a fewer. I think I saw the only graphic

733
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: like they've only give enough seven offensive touchdowns?

734
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 4: Is that true? That can't be true. That can't be true.

735
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: Like the way that they're playing, but they're playing really

736
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: good on defense, and that defense with this offense that

737
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: has the potential to explode. Man, they put the Ravens

738
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: right back into the conversations. One of the teams that

739
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: you don't want to talk about in the tournament.

740
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: Great point, and I think it was nice to see

741
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: and to see that kind of the full complement of

742
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's targets kind of show up. Obviously, Zay Flowers

743
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: has been there arguably their most consistent piece as a

744
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: rookie these first couple of weeks, but kind of reintroduce

745
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: yourself to the fact that Mark Andrews can be a

746
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: game wrecker. Rashat Bateman made some catches in this game,

747
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: They got Gus Edwards rolling a little bit, and so

748
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: it just it all felt like it was working. And

749
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: they jumped on Detroit from the jump, you know, and

750
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: that's that's obviously key, especially at home, you know, and

751
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: a team like that, you know in Detroit, you got

752
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: to get up early. You don't want to find yourself down.

753
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: And so I just I thought Lamar played, you know,

754
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: this is the best game we've seen him play in.

755
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, in two years do we see by

756
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: the way in that game where you had a young,

757
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: exciting off offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions, is it

758
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: time that maybe Mike McDonald gets some love. As Buck

759
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: was talking about this Ravens defense and how well they're

760
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: playing when you start, as you start getting to the

761
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: midway point, you start seeing some of these lists come

762
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: out with future head coaches. We did a nice job

763
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 2: at Michigan for Jim Jim Harbaugh. Then you know he's

764
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: bounced back and forth with John with the Ravens. He's

765
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: been excellent.

766
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: Man. He's a young guy who obviously is really really smart.

767
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: So in a league where we see all the offensive

768
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: guys getting the lake up, I wouldn't sleep on him

769
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: as being a head coaching candidate here in this next cycle. Yeah, Ratt,

770
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: what do you got here? What's your next game?

771
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: I believe we're going Patriots Bills. Yeah, so I'll just

772
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: I'll tackle this. Initially from the Patriots side of thing,

773
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: there was an efficiency and effectiveness to this offense for

774
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: New England that we have not seen this year. I

775
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: thought early on, man, it was just mac Jones was

776
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: on target and they were working the ball, you know,

777
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: to a variety of different pop Douglas was getting the

778
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: ball quickly and letting him kind of use that athleticism,

779
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: let him go to work. Farrell Brown find some chunk

780
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: plays from the tight end spot. In the past game,

781
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: there was a balance Mac didn't throw it forty five

782
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: times completed twenty five to thirty in this game, and

783
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: even though the run game wasn't particularly productive, they stuck

784
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: with it for the most part achieve some balance. But

785
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: maybe the biggest part about it is the offensive line.

786
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: Combo worked arguably for the first time this season now

787
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: like they've been missing Cole Strange for the last three games.

788
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 5: He comes back into the lineup.

789
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: That then allows Michael Wainu to move over to right tackle,

790
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: where they had just been getting beat handily on that

791
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: right tackle spot, and he kind of settles that down.

792
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: They allow zero sacks in just two quarterback hits and

793
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: arguably their lowest pressure percentage of the season this week

794
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: against the Bills defense would have been one of the

795
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: best in pressuring the quarterback all year. That to me

796
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: is the absolute key to this game. Mac Jones, when

797
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: given a second, is good enough to win games in

798
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: this league. And I think he's proven that time and

799
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: time again, and he's been under constant durest the last

800
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: month or so, and so the fact that he was

801
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: able to breathe for a second and then deliver some throws,

802
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: I mean, that was big and it wasn't like an

803
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: overly explosive offensive output, but they made plays when they

804
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: had to, made enough, especially down there late in the

805
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: game with the Kasiki touchdown, so that part was really good.

806
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: I don't even know buck if I'm you know, but

807
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: Rett's excited about the Patriots because they looked so much

808
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: better than they've looked. My emotion coming out of that

809
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: game is the man, what the heck is wrong with

810
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. They're they're up and down roller coaster team.

811
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 5: They lack DJ and buckets.

812
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: They lack so much I don't know, I don't know

813
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: the creativity so where they lacked so much in terms

814
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: of consistency and rhythm on offense.

815
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 5: It is like, man, I mean like I can feel

816
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 5: the frustration.

817
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: You know, like watching the game and you know, Josh Allen,

818
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: it is so it feels like that offense is so

819
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: boom or bust man, you know, and you know he

820
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: might throw three picks and you know, you still feel

821
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: confident in their ability to come back and win the game.

822
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: But I don't know what then, I don't know if

823
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: it's they're still struggling to find the right identity with

824
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey, is the play caller. But man, they just

825
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: they have not truly found the rhythm. I mean they

826
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: are just such an out of sync at times offense.

827
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: It feels like, yeah, it's very cluncky when you watched him.

828
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 3: There's no real rhyme or reason. I think the main

829
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: thing you don't know what their identity is. Right, So

830
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: when we think about the Miami Dolphins, we have a

831
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: clear picture of what their offensive identity is. It's about speed,

832
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: it's about getting to the perimeter, it's about explosive plays shots.

833
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 3: You think about the Philadelphia Eagles, it's about the run

834
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: game complimented with a vertical passing game, the AJ Brown,

835
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 3: Devoti Smith, and Dallas Goddard. But for the Buffalo Bills,

836
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: it's Josh Allen as a one man show. And I

837
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 3: don't know how that how that fares against some of

838
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 3: these other top teams in the AFC.

839
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 4: We've talked about the AFC being loaded from top to bottom.

840
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can just have, hey, Josh,

841
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: we're gonna roll the ball out, We're gonna let you

842
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 3: do your thing, and we're gonna figure out a way

843
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: to score thirty points. I don't know if that's an

844
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 3: effective strategy against the teams that in the AFC the

845
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: Bills were. In the NFC, sure right, demand they could

846
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: do it, but in the AFC, it's going to take

847
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: more structure, more organization offensively for them to be able

848
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: to get past some of these top teams.

849
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting just looking at I was pulling up

850
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: his numbers because I was curious on Josh. His completion

851
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: percentage is up seven percent over last year. His yards

852
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 2: per attempt is, you know, almost identical, seven to six

853
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: last year, seven to five this year. Last year was

854
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: thirty five touchdowns fourteen picks. This year fifteen and seven.

855
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: So that ratio is a little bit off. But if

856
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: you buy into ratings, I mean his rating and his

857
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: QBR are both up over last year. His rating right

858
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: now is the highest of his career, which seems crazy. Yeah,

859
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: it just seems crazy because you watch it and it

860
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: does feel disjointing joining the right way put it, But

861
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: on paper, when you look at it, it's like he's

862
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: having his best year. It's that's hard to it's hard

863
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: to wrap my mind around because I was thinking the

864
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: point I was going to make was, man it you

865
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 2: know this, I feel like this young group of superstars.

866
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: When you look at Burrow and some of the adversity

867
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: he's faced this year, Herbert has been down and it

868
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: hasn't been as easy of a ride for him. Josh

869
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: Allen's been down a little bit even, you know, until

870
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: this last week, Mahomes, with the other worldly standards he

871
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: had set for himself, wasn't quite what he had been.

872
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: I think we're seeing these young guys get challenged a

873
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: little bit.

874
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are seeing him get challenged, and it's just

875
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: not it's just not what you expected. We thought this

876
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 3: team would be ready to go now firmly, I believe

877
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: that they were going to be on the decent. I

878
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 3: didn't think they would stay up there. But I'm just

879
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: surprised that the struggles they were seeing from the squad.

880
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: All right, but how about falcons and bucks here in

881
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: a game. I'm gonna be honest on the road and

882
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: traveling until I look down at the paper, I don't

883
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: even know who won the game.

884
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 4: Oh you are you? You weren't excited about the look.

885
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: I just like to be honest with the listeners. I

886
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: don't I don't want to fake it. I didn't see

887
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: any of this game the.

888
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 4: King of the South.

889
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 2: I mean, that's still tell me as if I didn't know,

890
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 2: pretend like I didn't know.

891
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, so this this is okay.

892
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith in his sideline antics and we've seen him

893
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: basically look like he has uh may lox or pepto

894
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 3: bismol or whatever like he has it at his side

895
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: when he's watching his quarterback Desmond, and I think he

896
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: probably doubled up. I think he was double fisted on

897
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 3: the sideline with pepto because Desmond ritter.

898
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 4: He's three fumbles, he lost three fumbles, three three.

899
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 3: Going into the end zone, being careless with the ball,

900
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: quarterback sneaks like those things things where this game should

901
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: have been. Look, they comfortably won this game, but because

902
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: of those miscues and eras, it didn't happen the way

903
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: that it should happen. Now, as great as he made

904
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: a play to help him get down, hit cal piss

905
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: on a strike to put him in field goal range,

906
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: but his carelessness with the football is going to drive

907
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith to engage in some adult beverages or some

908
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 3: vicen he doesn't need to handle. Iving my fellow Tarrio

909
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: crazy with this turnout.

910
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: The first team to lose three red zone fumbles in

911
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 4: a game in twenty years Polish trap. Well, that's why

912
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 4: we've been that red zone.

913
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: So again, I'm just not talking about this game specifically,

914
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: but that's why when we get to the offseason, we

915
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: want to fast forward to the topics of conversation. The

916
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins to the Atlanta Falcons has been to move

917
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 2: the sticks. Move that we have all three endorsed, the

918
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: first stamp on that that's the move that should happen.

919
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 2: That team's ready to go. Man, they got a good group.

920
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 2: They're ready to go right now.

921
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 5: And Bejeon barely even played.

922
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: By the way, what happened. He was sick, he says something.

923
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 4: He had headaches.

924
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: He had headaches the night before and then it led

925
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: into the next morning and so he didn't didn't He

926
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: can't give you a hard days. The good days work.

927
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 4: I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this, man.

928
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: I'm in a fantasy football league, that one that I've

929
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: played in since I was in high school. And this

930
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: is the worst fantasy football team I've ever had my

931
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: entire life. And I took I took Bijon with like

932
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: the third pick. I'm like he's going to lead the

933
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: league in rushing. He's a freak. And then I looked

934
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: at the box score and I was like, wait, what

935
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: what happened?

936
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't play.

937
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: Hasn't been great for my squad. By the way, of course,

938
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: I didn't play George Pickens the one week that he

939
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: goes off too. So whatever, team, Enough about my fantasy team,

940
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: anything on the Bucks side of things before we move

941
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: on to this next game.

942
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: Heyet, I mean I don't I don't particularly think I

943
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: don't want.

944
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 4: To talk about Bucks. Yeah, I mean, guys, it wasn't

945
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: the story of the game.

946
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 5: It just wasn't the story of the game.

947
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: The story of the game with the Falcons allowing the

948
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: Buccaneers to hang around when.

949
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: The Bucks don't have a run game, Like, we talked

950
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: a lot, and you want to talk about fantasy, and

951
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: the fantasy community talked forever this offseason about Rashad White, like, yeah,

952
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: he caught the passes and you know, and that still

953
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: gets points. But I mean they're not running the football,

954
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: you know. And look, they really didn't a ton while

955
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: Tom was there either, but it kind of shows up.

956
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 5: It feels like a little bit more now.

957
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, last one on the Big eight here,

958
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: let's go rhtt. You had the Steelers and the Rams.

959
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: A big win on the road for the Steelers, who,

960
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: by the way, I feel like we talked about how

961
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 2: physical their camp was before the season started. We talked

962
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: about how this team like there's a toughness and a

963
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: greediness to them, and then they get their doors blown

964
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: off by the forty nine Ers and we're like, oh,

965
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: maybe we just missed a boat on that, and it's like, no,

966
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 2: they're just it's not aesthetically pleasing, but once again, they

967
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: just find a way to win games.

968
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to talk about not aesthetically pleasing, that's

969
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: spending two hours on your commute home after that.

970
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 5: Ram Steelers came from so.

971
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: Far yesterday, gos, tough Steelers, a lot of Steeler fans

972
00:42:59,120 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: and the.

973
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 4: Lot Yes, indeed, So.

974
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: This game was was kind of interesting, right, I mean,

975
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: obviously the Rams running back room was injury depleted, Kyen

976
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: Williams out, rivers out, so they had they called up,

977
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, everybody from the practice squad, Royce Freeman, Darryl Henderson,

978
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: the old friend comes down on the mach Yeah, I know,

979
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: and it's still found some productivity there, and I think,

980
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,479
Speaker 1: you know, all of us that were worried about Pooka

981
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: and Akua's production with Cooper cup came back. Just turns

982
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: out it just probably helps a little bit, you know,

983
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: to have Cooper in there. I mean, and Bucky and

984
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: I were talking about it on Game Day Live. I mean,

985
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a team that executes the

986
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: end cuts at at all levels of the of the

987
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: defense better than the Rams do with the way that

988
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: Stafford can sling it in the way that Pooka and

989
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: Cooper find openings down the field in that area.

990
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 5: So that was big.

991
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: But this really comes down to the fourth quarter for me,

992
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 1: really the third and fourth quarter with the Steelers. Third

993
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: quarter because t J. Watt picks off Matthew Stafford sets

994
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: up the Steelers offense, they punched it into the end

995
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: zone their back like they're starting to get that momentum.

996
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: And then in the fourth quarter, I thought, is really

997
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: where this thing kind of came to play. They had

998
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: the Steelers ran twenty three plays in the fourth quarter,

999
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: sixteen of them were runs, eleven first downs in the

1000
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: fourth It's like they remembered who they were for a second,

1001
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, what I mean, it was Najie Harris, it.

1002
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 5: Was Warren like they were all.

1003
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they got into the game, like almost all

1004
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: of their rushing yardage for the game comes in the

1005
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: fourth quarter.

1006
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 4: Like Dwayne Washington.

1007
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: Was in there making some big plays as the you know,

1008
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: quote unquote sixth offensive lineman, but as another tight end there,

1009
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: Kenny was flawless. Kenny Pickett in the in the fourth quarter,

1010
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: he went seven for seven, had a big time back

1011
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: shoulder throw to George Picktts throw the game on a

1012
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: third and three, like Isaac Somalo peals off to try

1013
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: to help the left packle as they put Aaron Donald

1014
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: out rushing out wide on the left tackle and he's

1015
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: about to take care of a picket, but Smalu tries

1016
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: to come over there, ends up body checking picket. Some How,

1017
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: he still gets his ball off and it goes right

1018
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: into the into the hands of Pickens on a on

1019
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: a third and three on the final drive. That allowed

1020
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: them to essentially to essentially kind of run the deal out.

1021
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: And and maybe the biggest thing and the biggest difference

1022
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: here is that they had the Matt Canada camera up

1023
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: there in the booth and he was actually had something

1024
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: to celebrate, Like it was not the misery can like

1025
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: he was actually up there.

1026
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 5: It's like let's go, you know, it was.

1027
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: Like feeling it, Like I just felt like they had

1028
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: a rhythm, they had a they had a you know,

1029
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: a commitment to the run game in that fourth quarter

1030
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: and maybe just maybe, Bucky, it's something for them to

1031
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: build on real quick.

1032
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: Though, Buck is is uh? Is Dwayne Washington related to

1033
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: Darnel Washington? Sorry, that's.

1034
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 4: Got my Washington.

1035
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 5: Washington.

1036
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: I was ready to I had that that punch and

1037
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: loaded and ready to go, and I had to sit

1038
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: there and hold it for a while to be able

1039
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 2: to get that thing in there.

1040
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: But thanks man.

1041
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 5: Sorry, sorry Darnell.

1042
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 4: Not bad, Budd. That's okay, we we we got.

1043
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: I think Dwayne Washington played for the Steelers though, right,

1044
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: why not?

1045
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 5: Maybe no.

1046
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 4: Cornerback. He's drafted by the Vikings.

1047
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 5: There's been there's been a couple.

1048
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: Okay, nice, go ahead, Buck, Sorry about Look, this is

1049
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: this is what we talk about with the Steelers. Man,

1050
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 3: They just find a way to get to the winner circle.

1051
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: It's never pretty. It's just effective. As much as people

1052
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: aid Matt Canada, he just somehow finds a way to

1053
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: draw up enough place for them to score enough points

1054
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: to win games, and he will continue to be there,

1055
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 3: probably be there twenty years from now, as the OC

1056
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: will still be talking about it.

1057
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 4: But that's how it goes.

1058
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 3: The big thing was George Pickens being a factor, George

1059
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: Pickens kind of showing up and making some plays and

1060
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: finally getting to think like Dat Johnson also being there.

1061
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: I mean, they got guys. Alan Robinson made a big catch.

1062
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 4: I mean, they have enough guys.

1063
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of organizing the play sheet where

1064
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: those guys can touch it. They just haven't done it.

1065
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: So we'll see if they can get it together down

1066
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: the stretch. But this team is gonna be there. They're

1067
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: gonna be in the conversation.

1068
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 2: They're the cockroach. They're the cockroach of the AFC North.

1069
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: Like we'll talk about one week called the Ravens of

1070
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: the best team and it's like, oh, the Browns have

1071
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: this all time defense, and it's like, you know, the Bengals,

1072
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: they'll get it going. You know, I'll get bur He'll

1073
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 2: be back. And it's like Steelers, you're not killing the Steelers.

1074
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: They're going to be there. Whoever else is at the party.

1075
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: We'll see, but you can write it in ink that

1076
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: the Steelers will be.

1077
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 4: There at the end.

1078
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 5: Darnell's going to be there. Boys, that's going to be there.

1079
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: That's right, Darnell, Dwayne or whatever. It's all the same starting.

1080
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: How about if I was going to go headline and

1081
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: I'll go back and forth with you guys, will go

1082
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: kind of rapid fire here, but just the headline takeaway

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00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: from these other ones, buck the Raiders and the Bears.

1084
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: The Bears smash the Raiders thirty to twelve. What's the headline?

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00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 3: Why star Brian hoy I just know, like like why,

1086
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: because this was a situation where I understood, like the

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00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 3: previous week, Jimmy Garoppolo gets her second half. You put

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00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: Brian Hoy in because he's a guy that's probably most

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00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: ready to play without reps. But now you had a

1090
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: full week to prepare. Ain't no Cone should be in

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00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: the starting quarterback. We have seen what this Brian Hory

1092
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,959
Speaker 3: thing looks like. It doesn't look great, and it didn't

1093
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: look great against the Chicago Bears. And this is one

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00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: where if you're a Raiders fan, you're looking at just

1095
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 3: from Daniels one, they're like man like, let's put the

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00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: young guy in. Let's give him a chance. And it

1097
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: also look you win and got Jimmy G. This had

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00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 3: to be part of the equation. When you got Jimmy G.

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00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 3: He's not a guy that's a seventeen game starter. He's

1100
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: a twelve to thirteen game starter. And you need to

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00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: have a good quarterback too. And I thought a and

1102
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: O'Connell would be the guy to get the.

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Speaker 1: Ball well, and we talked about it on the show Buck.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think Brian hoyerk sells at being

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00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: QB two coming in, you know, as you mentioned, with

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00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: zero reps and being able to effectively lead the offense

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00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: the way he did a week ago. But as is

1108
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: the case with many backup quarterbacks, you start exposing them

1109
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: to more reps in a role like this against the Bears,

1110
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: and sometimes that's when you see why that they are

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00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: QB two.

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Speaker 2: And that is that the line, by the way, you

1113
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: remember when we were in high school whatever, the line

1114
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: was good from far but far from good.

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00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Brian Hoyer. It's good few with something.

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00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean. But here's the other thing,

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00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 5: the other takeaway on that one.

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00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 1: Why does everyone want to throw Deontay Foreman out onto

1119
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: the trash heap after one year? I mean like he's

1120
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: been on three teams and three years, it feels like

1121
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: and every time he gets the ball he's like a one

1122
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: hundred yard rusher. He had three touchdowns in his game.

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Speaker 1: Why is he gonna play for the Panthers right now

1124
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: where he was a year ago? I mean, like you

1125
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: still in Tennessee, I don't.

1126
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: Roster that Panthers roster of you know, eighteen months ago

1127
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: looks a lot better than that Panthers roster does right now.

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00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: I can tell you that much.

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00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, they play a lot different too. What else we got?

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00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 4: All right?

1131
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: Next one here? Uh, let's go rat. You can hit

1132
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: this one because you're the official Giants watcher of the

1133
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 2: podcast fourteen to seven.

1134
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that they got some run game productivity

1135
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: from Saquon Barkley and and I think the biggest takeaway

1136
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: is that they found Darren Waller. They remember Darren Waller

1137
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: is there and is one of the best tight ends

1138
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: in the league. He goes for seven ninety eight in

1139
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: a touchdown and that was essentially all they needed. Defense

1140
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: played well in the game.

1141
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: There you go and by the way, I thought the

1142
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: other piece of information that came out of this was

1143
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 2: it looks like they are going to get their left

1144
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: tackle back for next week's game against the Jets, which

1145
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 2: is going to be thirteen to ten, and it's going

1146
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: to be a slugfest Battle of New York.

1147
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: They're looking forward to that one.

1148
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: All all right, Buck the Cardinals, they're competitive, but the

1149
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: Seahawks get him twenty to ten. Jake Bobo with a touchdown,

1150
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: skelch Jake jag Bo with a touchdown. How about the

1151
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: two rookies. Yeah, two rookie stepping up.

1152
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting about Bobo is how DK

1153
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: Metcalf has talked about he looked at Jake Bobo as

1154
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 3: inspiration in terms of how to work and how to

1155
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 3: prepare to play in the National Football League.

1156
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 4: He talked about Bobo has.

1157
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: Been one of the guys that from a route running standpoint,

1158
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: he's been impressed with, and so he watches how he's

1159
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 3: been able to work himself into being a pro and

1160
00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: how he's earned everything.

1161
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 4: He's tried to take all some of that.

1162
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 3: I just think with the Seattle Seahawks, they're young guys

1163
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 3: stepping up and playing you didn't get a chance to

1164
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 3: see it, but Devin with his phone absolutely splattered somebody

1165
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: in the flat, just absolutely like didn't matter.

1166
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 5: Yeah it was Rondell Moore, I think, I mean.

1167
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 3: Just cut him down two inches, I mean, just destroyed him.

1168
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: And the Seahawks didn't play great, but they ran the

1169
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 3: ball effective. He kend of walk ahead over one hundred yards.

1170
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 3: Geno was fine. The wide receivers continue to make plays.

1171
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 3: But this is a team that they're not good enough

1172
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: in my mind to be one of those top seeds,

1173
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: one of those top four season in NFC.

1174
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 4: But that could be a little problem in the tournament.

1175
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can win a game. They could win a

1176
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: game in the tournament. I mean, I don't know. That's interesting,

1177
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: all right? The last one here, Buck, you can handle this.

1178
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: Packers Broncos. I felt like, I don't know, refresh my memory.

1179
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: I feel like you were pro Packers early on in

1180
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: the year, thinking they're not going to skip a beat,

1181
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: and yeah I was, will feel the same way about

1182
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: their situation.

1183
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 4: I was.

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00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm gonna do, because I humble

1185
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: produced ne Bill, I'm gonna do like Nebill, I changed

1186
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: my mind.

1187
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 4: I don't feel it's.

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00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 3: Right about that. I don't feel it's great about them

1189
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 3: after watching them. It was a lot more in theory

1190
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 3: more so than in practical application. I thought this team

1191
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: was gonna be able to run the football where Aaron

1192
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,959
Speaker 3: Jones and aj Dillon and they just don't play big

1193
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 3: boy ball, and the fact that somehow the Broncos allowed

1194
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 3: them to close the gap. The Broncos dominated the game

1195
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: for the most part. I mean, they were in control

1196
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 3: of the game, and they let the Packers sneak back

1197
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: in This Packer team and we're learning And this is

1198
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Speaker 3: what I was curious.

1199
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Speaker 4: I wanted to see what Matt Lafloyd looked like without.

1200
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 3: Having the four time MVP Aaron Rodgers, and it looked

1201
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: like what I thought it would look like. He has

1202
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 3: to figure out how to get this team with what

1203
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: he has to play at a higher level. And they're

1204
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 3: just not playing well enough in terms of on defense

1205
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 3: and in the running game to be able to do it.

1206
00:52:58,719 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 4: With Jordan Levit quarterback.

1207
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Speaker 1: They got to get their offensive line fixed. It's become

1208
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: an issue. Josh Meyer's got hurt in this game. We

1209
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: obviously we know Baktiari's what he's been dealing with It's

1210
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: it's not what they have going up there up front

1211
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: right now is not conducive to the way that they

1212
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: want to play this game.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, by the way, quick kids story. When my youngest

1214
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: son was playing soccer for the first year, so I

1215
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 2: don't know, five six years old, they're have their first

1216
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: game and the coaches, uh, got the team together, and

1217
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: so they've got the goalie jersey right, and they go, hey,

1218
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: who's who wants who wants to play goalie? You know,

1219
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: and none of the kids raise their hand. I'm just

1220
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 2: watching this whole thing, and my son's first time playing soccer.

1221
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: He raised his hand. Yeah, play goalie. Put the jersey

1222
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: on trot's back out there, gets in front of the goal.

1223
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: All the other team comes on the field, they blow

1224
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: the whistle to start the game, and he raises his

1225
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: hand from the goalie box goes I changed my mind.

1226
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 4: I changed my mind. I didn't want it. They didn't

1227
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: want that smoker goalie.

1228
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 2: Sounded like a great It's not like, hey, I get

1229
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: it a cool jersey. This is gonna be fun. And

1230
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: I think that five six year old brain started thinking, Man,

1231
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna star peppering some of these soccer balls.

1232
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't like this. I don't like this

1233
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 4: very much. Get me out of here. Yeah.

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00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 2: The best that was raising his hand because it was

1235
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: like it was proper.

1236
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 4: It was.

1237
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: It was very professional, it was very respectful, just very polite. Hey,

1238
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: I changed my mind for good. No, I get somebody

1239
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: else in here. By the way, you're not you can't.

1240
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: He didn't, was not I was able to do that

1241
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: at the start of the game. So I'm I'm the

1242
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: dad who runs behind the net, and I'm gonna like

1243
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,479
Speaker 2: try and encourage him and coach him. The referee those

1244
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: are coaching behind the net.

1245
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 4: You can't.

1246
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, these kids are five six years old.

1247
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 4: That come on, man.

1248
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 2: Anyways, he made it, he lived, he's still he's still

1249
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 2: with us. So he's good. Good. That's that's funny.

1250
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 4: Is that a classic? H I love that?

1251
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: All right. Remind you guys, we're gonna be back with

1252
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: four more episodes this week, including a movie six video

1253
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: show that streams four pm Pacific every Tuesday on the

1254
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: NFL Fast Channel. So again, five pods a week, five

1255
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Speaker 2: shows a week, including that video show. If you haven't

1256
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 2: done it already, we encourage to subscribe, leave us A

1257
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: rating review. We do appreciate those. It's been a fun

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Speaker 2: one boys. Let's do it again tomorrow. Sound good, sounds great,

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