WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Crying

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<v Speaker 1>Hi and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. The King Over You audition as

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals lose on a walk off field goal for

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<v Speaker 1>the second straight week, falling in Dallas twenty to seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, postgame comments from players

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<v Speaker 1>and coaches, and analysis from Dave Lapham. Then, in this

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<v Speaker 1>week's fun Fact segment, Hayden Hurst opens up about his

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<v Speaker 1>difficult past and how he nearly took his own life.

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry World. I've called several games at AT and T

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<v Speaker 1>Stadium over the years, including the Cotton Bowl last New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve, and the place never ceases to amaze me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's palatial, it's grandiose. It reeks of money. I jokingly

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<v Speaker 1>quoted Ron Burgundy before the game and said that it

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<v Speaker 1>smells like rich Mahogany. It's kind of an obnoxious display

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<v Speaker 1>of wealth. But I must admit there's nothing in professional

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<v Speaker 1>sports quite like it. Now, let's get to Sunday's game.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it about the Bengals and backup quarterbacks? They

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<v Speaker 1>helped launch a Hall of Famer's career when Don the

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<v Speaker 1>Magic Man Makowski got injured against Cincinnati back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two and Brett Farve came off the bench to

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<v Speaker 1>lead the Packers to a dramatic win. They lost a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff game to the immortal T. J. Yates of the

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<v Speaker 1>Texans in two twelve, and last year, the Bengals were

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<v Speaker 1>an eleven and a half point favorite when the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>had to start Mike White, and he threw for four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and five yards and three touchdowns in a three

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<v Speaker 1>point New York win. This time around, it was Cooper Rush,

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<v Speaker 1>making just his second start in five NFL seasons. He

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<v Speaker 1>gave the Cowboys an adrenaline rush on their opening drive,

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<v Speaker 1>second down and eight at the Cincinnati ten. Elliot in

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<v Speaker 1>the backfield behind. Rush takes the snap, fakes to Elliot,

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<v Speaker 1>rolls to the right, looks, throws into the end zone,

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<v Speaker 1>a leaping catch, and a touchdown Noah Brown in the

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<v Speaker 1>back right corner of the end zone. The Cowboys have

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<v Speaker 1>their first touchdown at this season, and it comes on

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<v Speaker 1>the opening drive in Week two, with their backup quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>running the show. The Bengals immediately answered with a forty

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<v Speaker 1>three yard field goal by Evan McPherson, but on the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys second drive, they found the end zone again. Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>line up in an I formation backfield. We'll see if

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback Rush keeps it. Nope, he's gonna give it

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<v Speaker 1>to Pollard, and Pollard knights in for the touchdown. Appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave him the opportunity to score after he did

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<v Speaker 1>most of the work to get them down there, and

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas has scored touchdowns on its first two drives with

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush at quarterback and taking a thirteen to three

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<v Speaker 1>league rush through for two hundred and thirty five yards

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<v Speaker 1>with one touchdown, no picks, and a passer rating of

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five point five. Here's Mike Hilton, who just getting

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<v Speaker 1>the ball out quick into this playmaker scance. You could

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<v Speaker 1>tell he wasn't trying to make no mistakes. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he weren't taking any deep shots. So it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just planning into the scheme and just taking when

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<v Speaker 1>he was given him. Rush was rarely pressured and only

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<v Speaker 1>got sacked once. The Bengals quarterback, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow back to throw under pressure trying to scramble. Micah

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<v Speaker 1>Parsons will come up with his first sack of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>hops on Burrows back and sacks him for a three

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<v Speaker 1>yard loss. Burrow was sacked six times and hit nine times.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a great rush, one of them, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say top two or three best rushes in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>They got to Marcus Lawrence, Micah and they do a

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<v Speaker 1>really good job with their picks in games too, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you know early in the game you're gonna have those,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I can do a better job to

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<v Speaker 1>getting the ball up quickly. But I thought for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, we protected the ball well in those situations.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was my goal this week. The Bengals did

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<v Speaker 1>not have any turnovers in the game, but still couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>score a touchdown in the first half, and the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>added to their lead in the final minute. Jake McQuaid

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<v Speaker 1>from Elder High School is the long snapper for the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys. It's had a good long NFL career after

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<v Speaker 1>playing at Ohio State. Here comes the fifty four yard

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<v Speaker 1>kick and it is a line drive that is good. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that looked like a one iron Yeah, barely had trajectory

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<v Speaker 1>and he just rocketed it through to get the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>a two touchdown lead with nine seconds left and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>For the second straight week, the Bengals dug a seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>to three first half hole. Here are Joe Burrow and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon. You'd like to start faster. Obviously, no touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>in the either first half. It's not up to our standard,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, we'd like to start faster, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the defenses that we're getting earlier are always

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<v Speaker 1>different than the ones that are on film, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that probably plays a part in it.

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<v Speaker 1>But we just got to do a better job of

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<v Speaker 1>adjusting faster. I felt like, you know, as a whole,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, we got to take an initiative. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, coaches, players, everybody's involved with everything, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So I'm not gonna no fingerpoint or

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<v Speaker 1>nothing like that. I mean, we got to take it

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<v Speaker 1>upon us to you know, come out and execute, be

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<v Speaker 1>ready to play. And you know, for some reason, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like we've been coming up short in that area.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been starting off slow, you know, little penalties here

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<v Speaker 1>Art has been killing us and having to get back

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<v Speaker 1>on track mass So you know, for real, we's just

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<v Speaker 1>got to execute more. They executed much better in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half, driving for field goals on their first two possessions.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be a fifty yard attempt from the right hash

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<v Speaker 1>McPherson one for one today. Yet from forty three in

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<v Speaker 1>the first quarter, here comes his kick. Distance is not

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<v Speaker 1>a problem, and it is good from fifty yards away.

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<v Speaker 1>Money Back has never missed on the road between the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season and the playoffs. He's twenty six for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six on field goal attempts, remarkable, and he made a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven in a row late in the third quarter

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<v Speaker 1>to pull Cincinnati within eight. Heading to the fourth, beginning

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<v Speaker 1>at their own twelve yard line with twelve and a

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<v Speaker 1>half minutes to go. The Bengals put together an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen play drive that took nearly nine minutes off the clock.

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<v Speaker 1>There were three third down conversions and one fourth down convert.

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow waiting for a shotgun snap Parsons rushing on Jonah Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a pass caught by Jamar Chase. He got inside

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<v Speaker 1>of Digs and made the catch at the nineteen to

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<v Speaker 1>extend the drive. On fourth and six, and with less

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<v Speaker 1>than four minutes to go in the game, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>finally scored a touchdown second and goal from the five,

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<v Speaker 1>three fifty seven to go. The Bengals trailing by eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow waiting back at the ten for the snap from

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<v Speaker 1>Keras Joe has the ball looking left, scans to the right.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe can run, but he throws into the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>by te hanging for the test down maybe and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals are a two point conversion away from tying this game.

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<v Speaker 1>The ball is placed with a front tip at the

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<v Speaker 1>two yard live the Bengals trying for a game tying

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<v Speaker 1>two point conversion for the second week in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>They will go empty. As Burrow waits for the shotgun snap,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe has the ball from the ten, looking telling god

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<v Speaker 1>By Boyd to tie the game. Night with three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>and forty five seconds left in regulation, what a tribe.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen plays eighty three yards and the Bengals score eight

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<v Speaker 1>points to pull even. Here's Zach Taylor on the marathon drive.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just what was needed at that point in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And that's the position we put ourselves in.

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<v Speaker 1>But our guys answered the bell. They made some tremendous plays,

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<v Speaker 1>some tremendous one on one plays, some great throws, tremendous protection.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, about everybody I can think of stepped up

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<v Speaker 1>on that drive to help us go score. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the protection was tremendous on the two point play. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>really had all day back there and allowed TV to

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<v Speaker 1>separate on that world routing. So you thought, those guys

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<v Speaker 1>really came together and put the drive together when we

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<v Speaker 1>needed it. Unfortunately, the next time out we weren't able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. The next time came about a minute

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<v Speaker 1>and a half later, as the defense forced to punt

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<v Speaker 1>to give the offense a chance to drive for a

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<v Speaker 1>winning score. But on third and three at their own

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen yard line, Burrow through a pass short of the

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<v Speaker 1>sticks and Tyler Boyd got tackled after a one yard game.

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<v Speaker 1>The heads went out first of all, so we're screaming

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<v Speaker 1>a play in and it's unfortunate that the one play

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<v Speaker 1>in the game is the last play in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, we feel like we had to get shot.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that one of their guys just fell off

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<v Speaker 1>on TV. I've got to see the clip, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure it was a guy covering him initially, just

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<v Speaker 1>fell off and made a real good play. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>had to punt, and the Cowboys got the ball at

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<v Speaker 1>their own thirty five with fifty seven seconds to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Three straight Cooper Rush completions put the Cowboys in position

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<v Speaker 1>to score the only points they would need in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half. Maher Is sets he has two fifty yard

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<v Speaker 1>field goals this year. Here comes his kick. It has

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<v Speaker 1>the distance. It is good. The Cowboys win on a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty yard field goal at the gun. Cooper Rush beats

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals in Dallas a fifty three yard or an

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<v Speaker 1>overtime last week, and a fifty yard or on the

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<v Speaker 1>final playoff regulation this week. The final score Dallas twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati seventeen. Here are Joe Mixon, Joe Burrow, and Ted Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>Our defense been playing the ass off I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they had little, you know, hiccups here and there, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day they bawling on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta do whatever we gotta do on offense to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, counter what's been going on. Man. So, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, everybody got to take initiative on each other

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, execute starfass and we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>finish these games. Two is tough, but there's no panic.

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<v Speaker 1>We've lost two games in a row before. We lost

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<v Speaker 1>two games in row several times last year. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of football have to be played. We're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>get all this cleaned up. We got a long season

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<v Speaker 1>ahead still obviously own two to start the year. Not

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<v Speaker 1>how we all visualized it going into this campaign. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but there's nothing we can do now about

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<v Speaker 1>that game. We're go get back to work and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we got the New York Jets on Sunday afternoon. After

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<v Speaker 1>the game, Dave Lapham spent a couple of minutes with

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor, coach. It's a tough league. Boy, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a play here, a play there. Seems

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<v Speaker 1>like first down was a little bit of an achilles

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<v Speaker 1>heel today. Yeah, the first half it really got us.

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<v Speaker 1>They just weren't efficient enough. They did a nice job,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't do a good enough job and put us

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<v Speaker 1>behind the chains there. But I thought we regrouped in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half and gave ourselves a chance. Down fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>points to start the game in two weeks now, but

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<v Speaker 1>your team just fights back. I mean they tied the

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<v Speaker 1>score in both football games. That tells you a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about their their character, their fiber, all the things you

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<v Speaker 1>need to know there, it doesn't it. I got to

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to help us put ourselves in a

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<v Speaker 1>lead so you know we can play the way that

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<v Speaker 1>we know we're meant to play, because being down two

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<v Speaker 1>scores two weeks in a row is not how we

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<v Speaker 1>want to do it. But again, we've got such great leadership,

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<v Speaker 1>such great talent in the soccer room that I know

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get it done. And we just got to

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<v Speaker 1>catch ourselves from being too frustrated after knowing to start

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a long season ahead and we just got

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of this next week. Did they give

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<v Speaker 1>you any looks different than they had own, or that

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<v Speaker 1>you may be anticipated, either up front or on the

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<v Speaker 1>back end. I wouldn't say that. You know, there are

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<v Speaker 1>some things that were in our control in the first

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<v Speaker 1>half that we just didn't execute well enough. And they

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<v Speaker 1>were really good defense. They're really well coordinated. We've known

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<v Speaker 1>that dating back to every game we watched last year

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<v Speaker 1>and the first week as well. So that's just on

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<v Speaker 1>us to regroup and be better next week. They were

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<v Speaker 1>not going to let you throw the ball over their heads.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they were going to make you play, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the intermediate to short routes. That that was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be something on an every snap basis. How frustrating was that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not giving yourself a chance to when you're having

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<v Speaker 1>the inefficiency where we had the two false starts, we

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<v Speaker 1>had a sack on first and ten, we had a

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<v Speaker 1>negative roun you know. So there was just some things

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<v Speaker 1>that I could help us be better, for sure, to

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<v Speaker 1>put in a better position to put pressure on the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned that they had a backup quarterback that had

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<v Speaker 1>been there five years and he was in a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>room as a player with the offensive coordinator, so they

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<v Speaker 1>know each other to they know what he can do

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<v Speaker 1>and can't do, and they didn't have to change their offense.

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<v Speaker 1>He just went out and executed. Yeah, he's been there

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<v Speaker 1>for a reason for a long time. They obviously got

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<v Speaker 1>a taught to trust in him. I thought he executed

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<v Speaker 1>their offense. Royal ball coach appreciate it. I know. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. It's two close ones like this one and

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<v Speaker 1>overtime one of the gun. Tough life in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League, it really is. Yeah. It. Had the Bengals won,

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<v Speaker 1>they would be tied for first in the AFC North.

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<v Speaker 1>The Steelers lost at home to the Patriots. The Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>blew a twenty one point halftime lead and lost to Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>and Cleveland had a thirteen point lead with less than

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes to go and lost to the Jets, who

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<v Speaker 1>scored a touchdown, recovered an onside kick, and scored another

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown to win by one. In other words, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>squandered a golden opportunity. Now time for postgame analysis. In

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<v Speaker 1>this week's Radio Guys Recap, lap I would describe the

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<v Speaker 1>basic mood in the locker room is stunned. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals thought facing Mitchell Trubisky in week one and

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush in week two probably should be two and

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<v Speaker 1>L and their own two. Yeah, obviously digging big holes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you put yourself behind fourteen points to any

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<v Speaker 1>team in the NFL, It's it's not a good place

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<v Speaker 1>to be. And uh, they've had to dig out of

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<v Speaker 1>those holes and twice have done it. But they have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out a way to get off to a

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<v Speaker 1>faster start. I thought first down inefficiency was the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the story of the day for the offense. They

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<v Speaker 1>found themselves in too many second and third and long

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<v Speaker 1>situations as a result, Goes six for seventeen on third

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<v Speaker 1>down two hundred and fifty four yards offense three point

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<v Speaker 1>eight yards per play, and mentioned at one point that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it looked like the passing game was in

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<v Speaker 1>a box. You know, they just weren't going to allow

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<v Speaker 1>them to throw the ball over their heads. So going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to figure out ways to get that alleviated.

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<v Speaker 1>And and then you know, guys for them stepped up

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<v Speaker 1>and had the game of their life. I mean Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>who would have thought that he was targeted five times,

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<v Speaker 1>five catches, nine one yards over eighteen yards of catching

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown. No one, no one expected that to be

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<v Speaker 1>the case, that's for sure. So the longest passing play

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<v Speaker 1>was nineteen yards. You talked about how opponents are not

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<v Speaker 1>going to allow them to go deep. Is it because

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<v Speaker 1>the safeties are playing back? Is it because the rush

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<v Speaker 1>is getting there too quickly for for Burrow to even

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<v Speaker 1>attempt a deep ball. I think it's a combination, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's uh. You know, initially, the safeties are

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<v Speaker 1>going to are making sure that Joe doesn't think about

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<v Speaker 1>putting it up there because you know, are they going

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<v Speaker 1>to work to the sideline and uh, and if Joe

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<v Speaker 1>decides to run a deep ball to one of his

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<v Speaker 1>outside receivers, is a safety going to be an issue there? Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So then by the time you know, you get off

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<v Speaker 1>of that, now where are you're looking at? How much

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<v Speaker 1>time is there? So it's a combination of both, really

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<v Speaker 1>coverage and rush or glove over the hand, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and same thing with protection and deep ball. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to you have to give the quarterback an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to have confidence that it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a you know, just a quick glance, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to have some time to really evaluate things

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<v Speaker 1>before he has to come off of it. And right

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<v Speaker 1>now it's it's just disjointed. Do they have to run

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<v Speaker 1>teams out of this? Is that the bottom line? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think I think you get that running

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<v Speaker 1>game going to the point where it's like, he's do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to die the slow death or the fast death?

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, most teams are gonna try to die the

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<v Speaker 1>slow death anyway, but at least make them mix it

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit more, you know, it makes change

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<v Speaker 1>some things up. If you get that running game going,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a complimentary situation going, you have a balanced attack.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's much tougher to play defense that way,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you know you've got the running game controlled

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<v Speaker 1>and you can put seven in the box to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>click cover two all day long. The Bengals defense has

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<v Speaker 1>played well enough to win, I think, in the first

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<v Speaker 1>two games, but there are negatives. One takeaway in two games,

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<v Speaker 1>two sacks in two games, and they've given up game

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<v Speaker 1>drives at the end of regulation today and an overtime

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<v Speaker 1>last week. Yeah, that's true. I mean, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>look at their at their raw numbers. I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 1>They're obviously not. They're not terrible. They gave up five

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<v Speaker 1>point seven yards a play on the day, but they average.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the Cowboys rushed Foe hundred and seven yards

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<v Speaker 1>and they averaged four yards a carry. Um. And I know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the perfect world you would want to have the

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<v Speaker 1>running game controlled a little bit better than that. So

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<v Speaker 1>make a Cooper Rush have to rush his decision making

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<v Speaker 1>process and make him think like he has to take

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<v Speaker 1>a chance here. They're um, he was too comfortable for

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<v Speaker 1>too much of the football game. Almost all the football game,

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was just too comfortable, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>confidence that he could execute the offense. Kellen Moore had

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<v Speaker 1>confidence you could execute the offense. And I thought Kellen

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<v Speaker 1>Moore called a good game. Mixed it up well, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they did just enough in both phases, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to to win the football game when they had to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You think at this point it's, you know, business as usual.

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<v Speaker 1>You go back to practice, you do what you did

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<v Speaker 1>last year to go to the Super Bowl. Or do

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<v Speaker 1>they need to mix it up in some way two

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<v Speaker 1>games into the season. Yeah, I mean it's not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you only have a game out. Everybody's one and one

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<v Speaker 1>except for you. Um, you know, you go back to work,

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<v Speaker 1>but there has to be a sense of urgency because

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<v Speaker 1>now you're two games down. You know, you have you

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<v Speaker 1>have fifteen games left in the season. You can still

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<v Speaker 1>obviously control your own destiny, but you've you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's an NFC loss, which if you're going to lose

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<v Speaker 1>a football game from a tiebreaker standpoint, that's the one

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<v Speaker 1>that you'd probably pick to lose. But you certainly don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to circle any games to lose. That's that's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>not in your mind. That's not your mindset whatsoever. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just a few things to clean up, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but you got to get cleaned up quickly because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody in this league is capable. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there are upsets are single week. Look what the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>did today, you know, and they've got to go to

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Look what happened last year in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's uh. I was talking to Ted Garrett Carris

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<v Speaker 1>in the post game. He says, look, I know what

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<v Speaker 1>the next two games are like. That's the division that

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<v Speaker 1>I played in, and I know what it's like to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to play these football teams. Look what the

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<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins did today. Look what the New York Jets

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<v Speaker 1>did today. That's the next two opponents. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to be a situation where ah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get up on them and it's an easy out.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna they're gonna fight you. They're gonna fight you

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<v Speaker 1>tooth and nail. Josh Allen, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson still to come. And they had the opportunity at

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<v Speaker 1>home against Mitchell Trubisky and on the road against Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>Rush and didn't take advantage of it. That stings, it,

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<v Speaker 1>does it does? I mean, you know, I know you can,

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<v Speaker 1>you can kick yourself in the butt about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to move on. You have to forget

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<v Speaker 1>about it as best you can and move on because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go back. There's nothing you can do about

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<v Speaker 1>about the past, whatsoever. All you can do about is

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<v Speaker 1>take care of the future. And you know, maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>knock off a couple of quarterbacks that people weren't expecting

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<v Speaker 1>you to knock off. That's just you know, life in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League. But you have nobody to blame

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<v Speaker 1>but yourself. So a road game against the Jets is next,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bengals will once again face a backup quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>not Mike White this time, but thirty seven year old

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Flacco, who threw four touchdown passes in that win

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<v Speaker 1>over Cleveland. Let's turn the page and get to this

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<v Speaker 1>week's fun Facts interview, where we get to know the

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<v Speaker 1>person under the pads. Time for some fun facts with

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals tight end Hayden Hurst from Jacksonville, Florida. Were you

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<v Speaker 1>a big Jaguars guy as a kid, and if so,

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<v Speaker 1>did you have heroes that you looked up to? So

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<v Speaker 1>I rooted for the Jags a little bit when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid. It was tough because they were always,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty bad. Ironically enough, my dad is actually

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<v Speaker 1>from Pittsburgh, so I grew up a Steelers fan a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, but that quickly went away, getting drafted by

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore and now playing for since. So it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>funny how life works itself out. You played some football

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid, but you were a phenom as a

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<v Speaker 1>baseball player, as a pitcher, specifically, How old were you

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<v Speaker 1>when you started to dominate and started to hear that

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<v Speaker 1>word prospect? As soon as I could get on the

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<v Speaker 1>noun from kid pitch. I was always playing one or

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<v Speaker 1>two years older, just because of how hard I threw.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I think by the time I was

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<v Speaker 1>eight or nine years old, I was pitching against you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like ten to eleven twelve year olds, And it was

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<v Speaker 1>just always that way until I got to Pittsburgh. I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine it was flattering and fun. But did it put

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<v Speaker 1>a little pressure on you to just be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy at such an early age. Not really. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was just so naive that I just picked

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<v Speaker 1>the ball up and was better than people, so I

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<v Speaker 1>just threw it past people. I didn't really think much

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I didn't really break the game down. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I knew what my arm talent was capable of,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just went out there and threw the hell

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. We're doing fun facts with Hayden Hurst.

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<v Speaker 1>The ball draft is very different from the NFL Draft.

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<v Speaker 1>You can be selected when you were in high school

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the way it fell for you. You were

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<v Speaker 1>chosen by the Pittsburgh Pirates, signed a contract as a teenager,

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<v Speaker 1>had a pretty good chunk of change in the bank. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that is good, exciting, flattering stuff, but in retrospect.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it too much too soon, you know, getting all

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<v Speaker 1>that money as an eighteen year old and never having

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<v Speaker 1>left home. I don't know if I was mature enough

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<v Speaker 1>to handle it at the time, you know, given my

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<v Speaker 1>life path, but I think it was kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing for me because I think eighteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>Hayden Hurst, if he had gone to Florida State, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I'd be playing sports still, I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have made some bad decisions. So it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>all part of a plan. You know. My dad was like,

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<v Speaker 1>football is always there. If you want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>take the money and run, so to speak, with the Pirates,

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<v Speaker 1>try it and if it works, awesome. If it doesn't,

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<v Speaker 1>go back and play football. So I definitely took that

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<v Speaker 1>into consideration when I was signing with the Pirates, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's all kind of worked out. It's kind of funny

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<v Speaker 1>how we had it all planned. We're chatting with Hayden Hurst.

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<v Speaker 1>Avid baseball fans have heard the term Steve blast disease,

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<v Speaker 1>which is used to describe players who basically lose the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to throw the ball where they want to. It's

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<v Speaker 1>happened to pitchers, it's happened to position players. It's happened

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<v Speaker 1>to major League All Stars and it happened to you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's frustration, there's confusion, there's embarrassment, and it led to

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<v Speaker 1>a dark time in your life. Can you describe what

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<v Speaker 1>that was like? To put it into terms, It was

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<v Speaker 1>like waking up and being in hell every single day

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<v Speaker 1>for about three and a half years. Because you play

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<v Speaker 1>this game growing up and it's just easy. You picked

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<v Speaker 1>the ball up and you throw it harder, you throw

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<v Speaker 1>it by people, and it's just it's really easy. And

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, you can't even warm up

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<v Speaker 1>on the foul line. You start questioning your ability, questioning

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<v Speaker 1>your purpose. It really affected me off the field. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously on the field, I didn't really get into games

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that was really just on bullpens. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, off the field, it really kind of sent

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<v Speaker 1>me into a spiral. So made a life change in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty fifteen to give up baseball and just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go do other stuff. Walked on in South Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, really kind of fell in love football.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been very candid about rock Bottom, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>suicide attempt. Did almost taking your life ultimately save it?

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<v Speaker 1>It gives me just a little bit of perspective, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when things are a little bit hard in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to learn playbooks or you know, learn

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<v Speaker 1>a run scheme or pass schemes. Um, I'm able to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reflect at the end of the day and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, hey man, you know you've been through way worse. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I wouldn't wish what I went through

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<v Speaker 1>and those you know, five six years upon my worst enemy. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was awful, like I said, waking up every day,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just I felt like I was living at

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<v Speaker 1>hell and I just couldn't get out of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I was trapped and there was nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>I could do, no amount of money that I could spend,

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<v Speaker 1>m nobody that I could talk to that could fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was tough, it really was. But it taught me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about myself. You've tried to use your experience

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<v Speaker 1>to help others through the Hayden Hurst Family Foundation, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to help kids and military veterans battling depression and anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it like when you hear from a kid or

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<v Speaker 1>a parent who says, your story is my story, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're helping save my life. It's better than anything that

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<v Speaker 1>could happen on a football field to me truly, not

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't love the game. It's done wonderful things

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<v Speaker 1>for me in my life and my family's life. But

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<v Speaker 1>I know what it's like to be in that headspace.

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<v Speaker 1>So when someone comes up to me and shares, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my story, this is what I've been through,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that frame of mind and what it's like

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<v Speaker 1>to be in that situation. So having just the courage

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<v Speaker 1>to even come up to someone random as myself and

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<v Speaker 1>tell your story, it's extremely courageous, and that's how we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to start, you know, getting ahead of this mental

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<v Speaker 1>health thing. So you made that switch from baseball to

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<v Speaker 1>football and walked on at South Carolina. Did you have

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<v Speaker 1>any idea what you were doing playing football at that level? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My first year, my freshman year, that had me at

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<v Speaker 1>receiver and it was basically, you know, go run by

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<v Speaker 1>this guy or go physical, go catch this ball. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't until my sophomore year with Will must Champ where

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<v Speaker 1>they really started, you know, breaking down the XS and

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<v Speaker 1>O's telling me, you know, you're gonna be a tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to learn you know fronts, you know, coverages,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. So that's really kind of what sped

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<v Speaker 1>up my you know football iq. Um. But yeah, at

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<v Speaker 1>first it was like, hey, just go run past this guy. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>hey go up, I'll jump this guy. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fun. You certainly look like a football player,

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<v Speaker 1>he's sixty four two fifty. Does football suit your personality

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<v Speaker 1>as well? Absolutely? You can ask anybody in my family.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I'm a psycho. So, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in the Pittsburgh Pirates organization when I was there,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever they saw me and they're like, to, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>football player playing baseball? What are you doing? Um? I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I felt it a little bit when I

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<v Speaker 1>was younger, just because you know, I was the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that just threw hard and I had off speed pitches too,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was just I would get i'd throw a ball,

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<v Speaker 1>I get pissed and try to throw at ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's just it doesn't necessarily correlate in baseball. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've kind of found my way in football.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I can go up and make a catch

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<v Speaker 1>or out run a guy, or get physical or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I get pissed off. I can go run fast,

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<v Speaker 1>start hit somebody harder. So I think absolutely it definitely

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<v Speaker 1>suits who I am. We're doing fun facts with hayden Hurst.

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<v Speaker 1>In Greek mythology, the phoenix is a creature that dies

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<v Speaker 1>and rises from the ashes. I've read that you had

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<v Speaker 1>a painting of a phoenix on your apartment wall in college.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the legend of the phoenix inspirational to you? One

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent? It was actually my mom's I guess when

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<v Speaker 1>she was in high school. She did theater. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a gift that she had received and I saw in

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<v Speaker 1>our house one day and I kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>looked it up and I understood what the phoenix was

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<v Speaker 1>and what it stood for. I kind of did some

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<v Speaker 1>more research and really really understood what it was. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of ironic how it fits into my life

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of where I was, who I was, and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of who I've become. All Right, a few wildcard

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<v Speaker 1>topics for hayden Hurst. Do you have a spectacular mane

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<v Speaker 1>of red hair? How much time and effort is required

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain it? It's a lot like sometimes like right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting a little long, so you know, it comes

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<v Speaker 1>out of the helmet a little bit too far, so

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<v Speaker 1>I need to get it trim before Sunday. My girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>definitely helps with the products, and she's on top of

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<v Speaker 1>her stuff with you hair care, so I'll mooch off

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<v Speaker 1>of her and her things. And if I'm not looking

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<v Speaker 1>quite up to par, you know, she kind of gets

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<v Speaker 1>me right, so it's perfect. I assume she likes the

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<v Speaker 1>hair and the beard. Yes, she does. She's a big fan.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a big fan of the beer. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>why it gets as big as it does. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have to tame it from time to time. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what she once she gets Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any hidden talents necessarily that I can think off the

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<v Speaker 1>top of my head. I'm a pretty I know everyone

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<v Speaker 1>thinks you know NFL player. These guys are so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably one of the most simple and boring NFL

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<v Speaker 1>players you could probably come across. You know, I'm big

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<v Speaker 1>on family. I'm big on relaxing when I get home.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as like a talent, nothing really decides of

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<v Speaker 1>doing the whole two pro sport thing. Other than that,

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>what do you like to spend your money on? My

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<v Speaker 1>family not big on buying you know, luxury things for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'll get a Chevy Tahoe. It's about as

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<v Speaker 1>fancy as I get. But kind of what I've been

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<v Speaker 1>through in my life, and I tell my family this

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, you know, I don't really it's a

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<v Speaker 1>blessing for me to still be here. So everything that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of happening now in my life, I consider it

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<v Speaker 1>a bonus because I never thought that I would really

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>be here. So it's cool to be able to spoil

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<v Speaker 1>them make their lives easier because, like I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got perspective of how hard it can be. You know,

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 1>nothing that life throws at me from you know, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine years on out is really gonna phase me from

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<v Speaker 1>what I've been through. Final question, this is kind of deep.

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<v Speaker 1>If you could meet anybody in history, athlete, actor, statesman,

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<v Speaker 1>religious figure, whoever it might be, who would that person be.

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald Reagan. I've read a lot of his books. I've

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<v Speaker 1>actually I'm reading a book right now become his like

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<v Speaker 1>famous quotations from history. Just a really great leader in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion. You know, whatever side of the fence you

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<v Speaker 1>may fall on, I just think the man that he

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<v Speaker 1>was during the times and what he was able to accomplish.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a great leader. I appreciate your time. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Have a great season, yes, sir, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had five catches in each of the first two games.

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