1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Hi and everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The King Over You audition as 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: the Bengals lose on a walk off field goal for 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: the second straight week, falling in Dallas twenty to seventeen. 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, postgame comments from players 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: and coaches, and analysis from Dave Lapham. Then, in this 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: week's fun Fact segment, Hayden Hurst opens up about his 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: difficult past and how he nearly took his own life. 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: You'll want to hear what Hayden has to say. 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It's the greatest thing since 19 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: Jerry World. I've called several games at AT and T 20 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: Stadium over the years, including the Cotton Bowl last New 21 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: Year's Eve, and the place never ceases to amaze me. 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: It's palatial, it's grandiose. It reeks of money. I jokingly 23 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: quoted Ron Burgundy before the game and said that it 24 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: smells like rich Mahogany. It's kind of an obnoxious display 25 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: of wealth. But I must admit there's nothing in professional 26 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: sports quite like it. Now, let's get to Sunday's game. 27 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: What is it about the Bengals and backup quarterbacks? They 28 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: helped launch a Hall of Famer's career when Don the 29 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: Magic Man Makowski got injured against Cincinnati back in nineteen 30 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: ninety two and Brett Farve came off the bench to 31 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: lead the Packers to a dramatic win. They lost a 32 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: playoff game to the immortal T. J. Yates of the 33 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: Texans in two twelve, and last year, the Bengals were 34 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: an eleven and a half point favorite when the Jets 35 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: had to start Mike White, and he threw for four 36 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: hundred and five yards and three touchdowns in a three 37 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: point New York win. This time around, it was Cooper Rush, 38 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: making just his second start in five NFL seasons. He 39 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: gave the Cowboys an adrenaline rush on their opening drive, 40 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: second down and eight at the Cincinnati ten. Elliot in 41 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: the backfield behind. Rush takes the snap, fakes to Elliot, 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: rolls to the right, looks, throws into the end zone, 43 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: a leaping catch, and a touchdown Noah Brown in the 44 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: back right corner of the end zone. The Cowboys have 45 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: their first touchdown at this season, and it comes on 46 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: the opening drive in Week two, with their backup quarterback 47 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: running the show. The Bengals immediately answered with a forty 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: three yard field goal by Evan McPherson, but on the 49 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys second drive, they found the end zone again. Cowboys 50 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: line up in an I formation backfield. We'll see if 51 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback Rush keeps it. Nope, he's gonna give it 52 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: to Pollard, and Pollard knights in for the touchdown. Appropriate. 53 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: They gave him the opportunity to score after he did 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: most of the work to get them down there, and 55 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: Dallas has scored touchdowns on its first two drives with 56 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush at quarterback and taking a thirteen to three 57 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: league rush through for two hundred and thirty five yards 58 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: with one touchdown, no picks, and a passer rating of 59 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: ninety five point five. Here's Mike Hilton, who just getting 60 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: the ball out quick into this playmaker scance. You could 61 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: tell he wasn't trying to make no mistakes. You know, 62 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: he weren't taking any deep shots. So it's like, you know, 63 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: he's just planning into the scheme and just taking when 64 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: he was given him. Rush was rarely pressured and only 65 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: got sacked once. The Bengals quarterback, on the other hand, 66 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: Burrow back to throw under pressure trying to scramble. Micah 67 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: Parsons will come up with his first sack of the game, 68 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: hops on Burrows back and sacks him for a three 69 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: yard loss. Burrow was sacked six times and hit nine times. 70 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: They have a great rush, one of them, I would 71 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: say top two or three best rushes in the league. 72 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: They got to Marcus Lawrence, Micah and they do a 73 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: really good job with their picks in games too, and 74 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: so you know early in the game you're gonna have those, 75 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: and you know, I can do a better job to 76 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: getting the ball up quickly. But I thought for the 77 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: most part, we protected the ball well in those situations. 78 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: And that was my goal this week. The Bengals did 79 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: not have any turnovers in the game, but still couldn't 80 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: score a touchdown in the first half, and the Cowboys 81 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: added to their lead in the final minute. Jake McQuaid 82 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: from Elder High School is the long snapper for the 83 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. It's had a good long NFL career after 84 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: playing at Ohio State. Here comes the fifty four yard 85 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: kick and it is a line drive that is good. Wow, 86 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: that looked like a one iron Yeah, barely had trajectory 87 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: and he just rocketed it through to get the Cowboys 88 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: a two touchdown lead with nine seconds left and a half. 89 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: For the second straight week, the Bengals dug a seventeen 90 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: to three first half hole. Here are Joe Burrow and 91 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. You'd like to start faster. Obviously, no touchdowns 92 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: in the either first half. It's not up to our standard, 93 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: and so you know, we'd like to start faster, but 94 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, the defenses that we're getting earlier are always 95 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: different than the ones that are on film, and so 96 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: I think that that probably plays a part in it. 97 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: But we just got to do a better job of 98 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: adjusting faster. I felt like, you know, as a whole, 99 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: Like I said, we got to take an initiative. Everybody, 100 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, coaches, players, everybody's involved with everything, you know 101 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm not gonna no fingerpoint or 102 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: nothing like that. I mean, we got to take it 103 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: upon us to you know, come out and execute, be 104 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: ready to play. And you know, for some reason, it 105 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: seems like we've been coming up short in that area. 106 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: We've been starting off slow, you know, little penalties here 107 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: Art has been killing us and having to get back 108 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: on track mass So you know, for real, we's just 109 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: got to execute more. They executed much better in the 110 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: second half, driving for field goals on their first two possessions. 111 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: It'll be a fifty yard attempt from the right hash 112 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: McPherson one for one today. Yet from forty three in 113 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: the first quarter, here comes his kick. Distance is not 114 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: a problem, and it is good from fifty yards away. 115 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: Money Back has never missed on the road between the 116 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: regular season and the playoffs. He's twenty six for twenty 117 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: six on field goal attempts, remarkable, and he made a 118 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: twenty seven in a row late in the third quarter 119 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: to pull Cincinnati within eight. Heading to the fourth, beginning 120 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: at their own twelve yard line with twelve and a 121 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: half minutes to go. The Bengals put together an incredible 122 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: nineteen play drive that took nearly nine minutes off the clock. 123 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: There were three third down conversions and one fourth down convert. 124 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: Burrow waiting for a shotgun snap Parsons rushing on Jonah Williams. 125 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: Here's a pass caught by Jamar Chase. He got inside 126 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: of Digs and made the catch at the nineteen to 127 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: extend the drive. On fourth and six, and with less 128 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: than four minutes to go in the game, the Bengals 129 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: finally scored a touchdown second and goal from the five, 130 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: three fifty seven to go. The Bengals trailing by eight. 131 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: Burrow waiting back at the ten for the snap from 132 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: Keras Joe has the ball looking left, scans to the right. 133 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: Joe can run, but he throws into the end zone 134 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: by te hanging for the test down maybe and the 135 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: Bengals are a two point conversion away from tying this game. 136 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: The ball is placed with a front tip at the 137 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: two yard live the Bengals trying for a game tying 138 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: two point conversion for the second week in a row. 139 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: They will go empty. As Burrow waits for the shotgun snap, 140 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: Joe has the ball from the ten, looking telling god 141 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: By Boyd to tie the game. Night with three minutes 142 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: and forty five seconds left in regulation, what a tribe. 143 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: Nineteen plays eighty three yards and the Bengals score eight 144 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: points to pull even. Here's Zach Taylor on the marathon drive. 145 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: That's just what was needed at that point in the game, 146 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, And that's the position we put ourselves in. 147 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: But our guys answered the bell. They made some tremendous plays, 148 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 1: some tremendous one on one plays, some great throws, tremendous protection. 149 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: You know, about everybody I can think of stepped up 150 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: on that drive to help us go score. And you know, 151 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: the protection was tremendous on the two point play. Joe 152 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: really had all day back there and allowed TV to 153 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: separate on that world routing. So you thought, those guys 154 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: really came together and put the drive together when we 155 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: needed it. Unfortunately, the next time out we weren't able 156 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: to do that. The next time came about a minute 157 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: and a half later, as the defense forced to punt 158 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: to give the offense a chance to drive for a 159 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: winning score. But on third and three at their own 160 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: fifteen yard line, Burrow through a pass short of the 161 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: sticks and Tyler Boyd got tackled after a one yard game. 162 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: The heads went out first of all, so we're screaming 163 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: a play in and it's unfortunate that the one play 164 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: in the game is the last play in the game, 165 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: but you know, we feel like we had to get shot. 166 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: I think that one of their guys just fell off 167 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: on TV. I've got to see the clip, but I'm 168 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: not sure it was a guy covering him initially, just 169 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: fell off and made a real good play. The Bengals 170 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: had to punt, and the Cowboys got the ball at 171 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: their own thirty five with fifty seven seconds to go. 172 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: Three straight Cooper Rush completions put the Cowboys in position 173 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: to score the only points they would need in the 174 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: second half. Maher Is sets he has two fifty yard 175 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: field goals this year. Here comes his kick. It has 176 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: the distance. It is good. The Cowboys win on a 177 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: fifty yard field goal at the gun. Cooper Rush beats 178 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: the Bengals in Dallas a fifty three yard or an 179 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: overtime last week, and a fifty yard or on the 180 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: final playoff regulation this week. The final score Dallas twenty, 181 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: Cincinnati seventeen. Here are Joe Mixon, Joe Burrow, and Ted Harris. 182 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: Our defense been playing the ass off I mean, you know, 183 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 1: they had little, you know, hiccups here and there, but 184 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: at the end of the day they bawling on defense. 185 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: We gotta do whatever we gotta do on offense to 186 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, counter what's been going on. Man. So, like 187 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: I said, everybody got to take initiative on each other 188 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, execute starfass and we've got to 189 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: finish these games. Two is tough, but there's no panic. 190 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: We've lost two games in a row before. We lost 191 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: two games in row several times last year. A lot 192 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: of football have to be played. We're gonna have to 193 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: get all this cleaned up. We got a long season 194 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: ahead still obviously own two to start the year. Not 195 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: how we all visualized it going into this campaign. So, 196 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: you know, but there's nothing we can do now about 197 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: that game. We're go get back to work and you know, 198 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: we got the New York Jets on Sunday afternoon. After 199 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: the game, Dave Lapham spent a couple of minutes with 200 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, coach. It's a tough league. Boy, it's a 201 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: it's a it's a play here, a play there. Seems 202 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: like first down was a little bit of an achilles 203 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: heel today. Yeah, the first half it really got us. 204 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: They just weren't efficient enough. They did a nice job, 205 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: we didn't do a good enough job and put us 206 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: behind the chains there. But I thought we regrouped in 207 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: the second half and gave ourselves a chance. Down fourteen 208 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: points to start the game in two weeks now, but 209 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: your team just fights back. I mean they tied the 210 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: score in both football games. That tells you a lot 211 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: about their their character, their fiber, all the things you 212 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: need to know there, it doesn't it. I got to 213 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: find a way to help us put ourselves in a 214 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: lead so you know we can play the way that 215 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: we know we're meant to play, because being down two 216 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: scores two weeks in a row is not how we 217 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: want to do it. But again, we've got such great leadership, 218 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: such great talent in the soccer room that I know 219 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna get it done. And we just got to 220 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: catch ourselves from being too frustrated after knowing to start 221 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: because it's a long season ahead and we just got 222 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: to take care of this next week. Did they give 223 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: you any looks different than they had own, or that 224 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: you may be anticipated, either up front or on the 225 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: back end. I wouldn't say that. You know, there are 226 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: some things that were in our control in the first 227 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: half that we just didn't execute well enough. And they 228 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: were really good defense. They're really well coordinated. We've known 229 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: that dating back to every game we watched last year 230 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: and the first week as well. So that's just on 231 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: us to regroup and be better next week. They were 232 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: not going to let you throw the ball over their heads. 233 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they were going to make you play, you know, 234 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: the intermediate to short routes. That that was going to 235 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: be something on an every snap basis. How frustrating was that, Yeah, 236 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: you're not giving yourself a chance to when you're having 237 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: the inefficiency where we had the two false starts, we 238 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: had a sack on first and ten, we had a 239 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: negative roun you know. So there was just some things 240 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: that I could help us be better, for sure, to 241 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: put in a better position to put pressure on the defense. 242 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: You mentioned that they had a backup quarterback that had 243 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: been there five years and he was in a quarterback 244 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: room as a player with the offensive coordinator, so they 245 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: know each other to they know what he can do 246 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: and can't do, and they didn't have to change their offense. 247 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: He just went out and executed. Yeah, he's been there 248 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: for a reason for a long time. They obviously got 249 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: a taught to trust in him. I thought he executed 250 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: their offense. Royal ball coach appreciate it. I know. Uh, 251 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: you know. It's two close ones like this one and 252 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: overtime one of the gun. Tough life in the National 253 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: Football League, it really is. Yeah. It. Had the Bengals won, 254 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: they would be tied for first in the AFC North. 255 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: The Steelers lost at home to the Patriots. The Ravens 256 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: blew a twenty one point halftime lead and lost to Miami, 257 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: and Cleveland had a thirteen point lead with less than 258 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: two minutes to go and lost to the Jets, who 259 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: scored a touchdown, recovered an onside kick, and scored another 260 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: touchdown to win by one. In other words, the Bengals 261 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: squandered a golden opportunity. Now time for postgame analysis. In 262 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: this week's Radio Guys Recap, lap I would describe the 263 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: basic mood in the locker room is stunned. I think 264 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals thought facing Mitchell Trubisky in week one and 265 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush in week two probably should be two and 266 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: L and their own two. Yeah, obviously digging big holes. 267 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: You know, you put yourself behind fourteen points to any 268 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: team in the NFL, It's it's not a good place 269 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: to be. And uh, they've had to dig out of 270 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: those holes and twice have done it. But they have 271 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to get off to a 272 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: faster start. I thought first down inefficiency was the kind 273 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: of the story of the day for the offense. They 274 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: found themselves in too many second and third and long 275 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: situations as a result, Goes six for seventeen on third 276 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: down two hundred and fifty four yards offense three point 277 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: eight yards per play, and mentioned at one point that, 278 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, it looked like the passing game was in 279 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: a box. You know, they just weren't going to allow 280 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: them to throw the ball over their heads. So going 281 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: to have to figure out ways to get that alleviated. 282 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: And and then you know, guys for them stepped up 283 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: and had the game of their life. I mean Brown, 284 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: who would have thought that he was targeted five times, 285 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: five catches, nine one yards over eighteen yards of catching 286 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: a touchdown. No one, no one expected that to be 287 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: the case, that's for sure. So the longest passing play 288 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: was nineteen yards. You talked about how opponents are not 289 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: going to allow them to go deep. Is it because 290 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: the safeties are playing back? Is it because the rush 291 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: is getting there too quickly for for Burrow to even 292 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: attempt a deep ball. I think it's a combination, you know, 293 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: I think it's uh. You know, initially, the safeties are 294 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: going to are making sure that Joe doesn't think about 295 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: putting it up there because you know, are they going 296 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: to work to the sideline and uh, and if Joe 297 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: decides to run a deep ball to one of his 298 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: outside receivers, is a safety going to be an issue there? Um. 299 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: So then by the time you know, you get off 300 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: of that, now where are you're looking at? How much 301 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: time is there? So it's a combination of both, really 302 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: coverage and rush or glove over the hand, you know, 303 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: and same thing with protection and deep ball. You know, 304 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: you have to you have to give the quarterback an opportunity. 305 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: He has to have confidence that it's not going to 306 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: be a you know, just a quick glance, you know, 307 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: he's going to have some time to really evaluate things 308 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: before he has to come off of it. And right 309 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: now it's it's just disjointed. Do they have to run 310 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: teams out of this? Is that the bottom line? Yeah? 311 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think you get that running 312 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: game going to the point where it's like, he's do 313 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: you want to die the slow death or the fast death? 314 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: And honestly, most teams are gonna try to die the 315 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: slow death anyway, but at least make them mix it 316 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: up a little bit more, you know, it makes change 317 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: some things up. If you get that running game going, 318 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: you have a complimentary situation going, you have a balanced attack. 319 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's much tougher to play defense that way, 320 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: but if you know you've got the running game controlled 321 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: and you can put seven in the box to do it, 322 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: click cover two all day long. The Bengals defense has 323 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: played well enough to win, I think, in the first 324 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: two games, but there are negatives. One takeaway in two games, 325 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: two sacks in two games, and they've given up game 326 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: drives at the end of regulation today and an overtime 327 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, that's true. I mean, you know, you 328 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: look at their at their raw numbers. I mean, they're 329 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: They're obviously not. They're not terrible. They gave up five 330 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: point seven yards a play on the day, but they average. 331 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: You know, the Cowboys rushed Foe hundred and seven yards 332 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: and they averaged four yards a carry. Um. And I know, 333 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: in the perfect world you would want to have the 334 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: running game controlled a little bit better than that. So 335 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: make a Cooper Rush have to rush his decision making 336 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: process and make him think like he has to take 337 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: a chance here. They're um, he was too comfortable for 338 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: too much of the football game. Almost all the football game, 339 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: he was he was just too comfortable, and he had 340 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: confidence that he could execute the offense. Kellen Moore had 341 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: confidence you could execute the offense. And I thought Kellen 342 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: Moore called a good game. Mixed it up well, and uh, 343 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 1: you know they did just enough in both phases, you know, 344 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: to to win the football game when they had to do. 345 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: You think at this point it's, you know, business as usual. 346 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: You go back to practice, you do what you did 347 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: last year to go to the Super Bowl. Or do 348 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: they need to mix it up in some way two 349 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: games into the season. Yeah, I mean it's not you know, 350 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: you only have a game out. Everybody's one and one 351 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: except for you. Um, you know, you go back to work, 352 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: but there has to be a sense of urgency because 353 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: now you're two games down. You know, you have you 354 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: have fifteen games left in the season. You can still 355 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: obviously control your own destiny, but you've you know, it's 356 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: it's an NFC loss, which if you're going to lose 357 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: a football game from a tiebreaker standpoint, that's the one 358 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: that you'd probably pick to lose. But you certainly don't 359 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: want to circle any games to lose. That's that's obviously 360 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: not in your mind. That's not your mindset whatsoever. So um, 361 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: there's just a few things to clean up, and uh, 362 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: but you got to get cleaned up quickly because I mean, 363 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, everybody in this league is capable. I mean 364 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: there are upsets are single week. Look what the Jets 365 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: did today, you know, and they've got to go to 366 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: New York. Look what happened last year in New York. 367 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: So it's uh. I was talking to Ted Garrett Carris 368 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: in the post game. He says, look, I know what 369 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: the next two games are like. That's the division that 370 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: I played in, and I know what it's like to 371 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, to play these football teams. Look what the 372 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins did today. Look what the New York Jets 373 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: did today. That's the next two opponents. So you know, 374 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: they're not going to be a situation where ah yeah, 375 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: I get up on them and it's an easy out. 376 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna fight you. They're gonna fight you 377 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: tooth and nail. Josh Allen, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar 378 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: Jackson still to come. And they had the opportunity at 379 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: home against Mitchell Trubisky and on the road against Cooper 380 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: Rush and didn't take advantage of it. That stings, it, 381 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: does it does? I mean, you know, I know you can, 382 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: you can kick yourself in the butt about it, but 383 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: then you have to move on. You have to forget 384 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: about it as best you can and move on because 385 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: you can't go back. There's nothing you can do about 386 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: about the past, whatsoever. All you can do about is 387 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: take care of the future. And you know, maybe you 388 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: knock off a couple of quarterbacks that people weren't expecting 389 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: you to knock off. That's just you know, life in 390 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: the National Football League. But you have nobody to blame 391 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: but yourself. So a road game against the Jets is next, 392 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: and the Bengals will once again face a backup quarterback, 393 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: not Mike White this time, but thirty seven year old 394 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, who threw four touchdown passes in that win 395 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: over Cleveland. Let's turn the page and get to this 396 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: week's fun Facts interview, where we get to know the 397 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: person under the pads. Time for some fun facts with 398 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: Bengals tight end Hayden Hurst from Jacksonville, Florida. Were you 399 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: a big Jaguars guy as a kid, and if so, 400 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: did you have heroes that you looked up to? So 401 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: I rooted for the Jags a little bit when I 402 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: was a kid. It was tough because they were always, 403 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, pretty bad. Ironically enough, my dad is actually 404 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh, so I grew up a Steelers fan a 405 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: little bit, but that quickly went away, getting drafted by 406 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: Baltimore and now playing for since. So it's kind of 407 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: funny how life works itself out. You played some football 408 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: as a kid, but you were a phenom as a 409 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: baseball player, as a pitcher, specifically, How old were you 410 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: when you started to dominate and started to hear that 411 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: word prospect? As soon as I could get on the 412 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: noun from kid pitch. I was always playing one or 413 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: two years older, just because of how hard I threw. 414 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 1: Like I said, I think by the time I was 415 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: eight or nine years old, I was pitching against you know, 416 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: like ten to eleven twelve year olds, And it was 417 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: just always that way until I got to Pittsburgh. I 418 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: imagine it was flattering and fun. But did it put 419 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: a little pressure on you to just be, you know, 420 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: that guy at such an early age. Not really. I 421 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: think I was just so naive that I just picked 422 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: the ball up and was better than people, so I 423 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: just threw it past people. I didn't really think much 424 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: of it. I didn't really break the game down. I 425 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: just I knew what my arm talent was capable of, 426 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: and I just went out there and threw the hell 427 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: out of it. We're doing fun facts with Hayden Hurst. 428 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: The ball draft is very different from the NFL Draft. 429 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: You can be selected when you were in high school 430 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: and that's the way it fell for you. You were 431 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: chosen by the Pittsburgh Pirates, signed a contract as a teenager, 432 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: had a pretty good chunk of change in the bank. Again, 433 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: all of that is good, exciting, flattering stuff, but in retrospect. 434 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: Was it too much too soon, you know, getting all 435 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: that money as an eighteen year old and never having 436 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: left home. I don't know if I was mature enough 437 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: to handle it at the time, you know, given my 438 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: life path, but I think it was kind of the 439 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: best thing for me because I think eighteen year old 440 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst, if he had gone to Florida State, I 441 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: don't know if I'd be playing sports still, I probably 442 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: would have made some bad decisions. So it's kind of 443 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: all part of a plan. You know. My dad was like, 444 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: football is always there. If you want to, you know, 445 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: take the money and run, so to speak, with the Pirates, 446 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: try it and if it works, awesome. If it doesn't, 447 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: go back and play football. So I definitely took that 448 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: into consideration when I was signing with the Pirates, and 449 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: it's all kind of worked out. It's kind of funny 450 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: how we had it all planned. We're chatting with Hayden Hurst. 451 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: Avid baseball fans have heard the term Steve blast disease, 452 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: which is used to describe players who basically lose the 453 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: ability to throw the ball where they want to. It's 454 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: happened to pitchers, it's happened to position players. It's happened 455 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: to major League All Stars and it happened to you. 456 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: There's frustration, there's confusion, there's embarrassment, and it led to 457 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: a dark time in your life. Can you describe what 458 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: that was like? To put it into terms, It was 459 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: like waking up and being in hell every single day 460 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: for about three and a half years. Because you play 461 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: this game growing up and it's just easy. You picked 462 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: the ball up and you throw it harder, you throw 463 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: it by people, and it's just it's really easy. And 464 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you can't even warm up 465 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 1: on the foul line. You start questioning your ability, questioning 466 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: your purpose. It really affected me off the field. You know. 467 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: Obviously on the field, I didn't really get into games 468 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: and stuff like that was really just on bullpens. But 469 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, off the field, it really kind of sent 470 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: me into a spiral. So made a life change in 471 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty fifteen to give up baseball and just kind 472 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: of go do other stuff. Walked on in South Carolina 473 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: and you know, really kind of fell in love football. 474 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: You've been very candid about rock Bottom, which was a 475 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: suicide attempt. Did almost taking your life ultimately save it? 476 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: It gives me just a little bit of perspective, you know, 477 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: when things are a little bit hard in the NFL, 478 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, trying to learn playbooks or you know, learn 479 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: a run scheme or pass schemes. Um, I'm able to 480 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: kind of reflect at the end of the day and 481 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: be like, hey man, you know you've been through way worse. Um. 482 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: Like I said, I wouldn't wish what I went through 483 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: and those you know, five six years upon my worst enemy. Um, 484 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: it was awful, like I said, waking up every day, 485 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: it was just I felt like I was living at 486 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: hell and I just couldn't get out of it. I 487 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: felt like I was trapped and there was nothing that 488 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: I could do, no amount of money that I could spend, 489 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: m nobody that I could talk to that could fix it. 490 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: It was tough, it really was. But it taught me 491 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: a lot about myself. You've tried to use your experience 492 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: to help others through the Hayden Hurst Family Foundation, trying 493 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: to help kids and military veterans battling depression and anxiety. 494 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: What's it like when you hear from a kid or 495 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 1: a parent who says, your story is my story, and 496 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: you're helping save my life. It's better than anything that 497 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: could happen on a football field to me truly, not 498 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: that I don't love the game. It's done wonderful things 499 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: for me in my life and my family's life. But 500 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: I know what it's like to be in that headspace. 501 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: So when someone comes up to me and shares, you know, 502 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: this is my story, this is what I've been through, 503 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: I understand that frame of mind and what it's like 504 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: to be in that situation. So having just the courage 505 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: to even come up to someone random as myself and 506 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: tell your story, it's extremely courageous, and that's how we're 507 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: going to start, you know, getting ahead of this mental 508 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: health thing. So you made that switch from baseball to 509 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: football and walked on at South Carolina. Did you have 510 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: any idea what you were doing playing football at that level? Yeah. 511 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: My first year, my freshman year, that had me at 512 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: receiver and it was basically, you know, go run by 513 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: this guy or go physical, go catch this ball. It 514 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: wasn't until my sophomore year with Will must Champ where 515 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: they really started, you know, breaking down the XS and 516 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: O's telling me, you know, you're gonna be a tight end. 517 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to learn you know fronts, you know, coverages, 518 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: things like that. So that's really kind of what sped 519 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: up my you know football iq. Um. But yeah, at 520 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: first it was like, hey, just go run past this guy. Hey, 521 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: hey go up, I'll jump this guy. So it was 522 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: kind of fun. You certainly look like a football player, 523 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: he's sixty four two fifty. Does football suit your personality 524 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: as well? Absolutely? You can ask anybody in my family. 525 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: I think that I'm a psycho. So, you know, in 526 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: anybody in the Pittsburgh Pirates organization when I was there, 527 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: whenever they saw me and they're like, to, you're a 528 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: football player playing baseball? What are you doing? Um? I 529 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: kind of I felt it a little bit when I 530 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: was younger, just because you know, I was the guy 531 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: that just threw hard and I had off speed pitches too, 532 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: but it was just I would get i'd throw a ball, 533 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: I get pissed and try to throw at ninety nine, 534 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: you know, and it's just it doesn't necessarily correlate in baseball. So, um, 535 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: I think I've kind of found my way in football. 536 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: You know, I can go up and make a catch 537 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: or out run a guy, or get physical or you know, 538 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: when I get pissed off. I can go run fast, 539 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: start hit somebody harder. So I think absolutely it definitely 540 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: suits who I am. We're doing fun facts with hayden Hurst. 541 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: In Greek mythology, the phoenix is a creature that dies 542 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: and rises from the ashes. I've read that you had 543 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: a painting of a phoenix on your apartment wall in college. 544 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 1: Is the legend of the phoenix inspirational to you? One 545 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: hundred percent? It was actually my mom's I guess when 546 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: she was in high school. She did theater. There was 547 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: a gift that she had received and I saw in 548 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: our house one day and I kind of, you know, 549 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: looked it up and I understood what the phoenix was 550 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: and what it stood for. I kind of did some 551 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: more research and really really understood what it was. And 552 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: it's kind of ironic how it fits into my life 553 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: and kind of where I was, who I was, and 554 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: kind of who I've become. All Right, a few wildcard 555 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: topics for hayden Hurst. Do you have a spectacular mane 556 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: of red hair? How much time and effort is required 557 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: to maintain it? It's a lot like sometimes like right now, 558 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: it's getting a little long, so you know, it comes 559 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: out of the helmet a little bit too far, so 560 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: I need to get it trim before Sunday. My girlfriend 561 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: definitely helps with the products, and she's on top of 562 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: her stuff with you hair care, so I'll mooch off 563 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: of her and her things. And if I'm not looking 564 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: quite up to par, you know, she kind of gets 565 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: me right, so it's perfect. I assume she likes the 566 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: hair and the beard. Yes, she does. She's a big fan. 567 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: She's a big fan of the beer. That's kind of 568 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: why it gets as big as it does. I kind 569 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: of have to tame it from time to time. But 570 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: you know what she once she gets Do you have 571 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: any hidden talents necessarily that I can think off the 572 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: top of my head. I'm a pretty I know everyone 573 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: thinks you know NFL player. These guys are so cool. 574 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm probably one of the most simple and boring NFL 575 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: players you could probably come across. You know, I'm big 576 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: on family. I'm big on relaxing when I get home. 577 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: As far as like a talent, nothing really decides of 578 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: doing the whole two pro sport thing. Other than that, 579 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: what do you like to spend your money on? My 580 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: family not big on buying you know, luxury things for myself. 581 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'll get a Chevy Tahoe. It's about as 582 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: fancy as I get. But kind of what I've been 583 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: through in my life, and I tell my family this 584 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: all the time, you know, I don't really it's a 585 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: blessing for me to still be here. So everything that's 586 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: kind of happening now in my life, I consider it 587 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: a bonus because I never thought that I would really 588 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: be here. So it's cool to be able to spoil 589 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: them make their lives easier because, like I said, you know, 590 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: I've got perspective of how hard it can be. You know, 591 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: nothing that life throws at me from you know, twenty 592 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: nine years on out is really gonna phase me from 593 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: what I've been through. Final question, this is kind of deep. 594 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: If you could meet anybody in history, athlete, actor, statesman, 595 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: religious figure, whoever it might be, who would that person be. 596 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. I've read a lot of his books. I've 597 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: actually I'm reading a book right now become his like 598 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: famous quotations from history. Just a really great leader in 599 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: my opinion. You know, whatever side of the fence you 600 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 1: may fall on, I just think the man that he 601 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: was during the times and what he was able to accomplish. 602 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: Just a great leader. I appreciate your time. Thank you 603 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: so much. Have a great season, yes, sir, I appreciate it. 604 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: Aiden is off to a great start in a Bengals uniform. 605 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: He's had five catches in each of the first two games. 606 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for This episode of the 607 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast presented by Alta Fiber future Proof Fiber 608 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: Internet elevate your connection with Alta Fiber by Kettering Health, 609 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals, by Bengals Picks 610 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: and Ultimate Bengals Free to Play with tickets and sign 611 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: merchandise up for grabs, and by Paycord, the official HR 612 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: software provider of the Bengals. 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