1 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back yet again. Welcome in. 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: It is the Late Kick Extra podcast. I'm Josh Pate 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: recording extremely early Tuesday morning, September fifteenth. Does that sound right? Fifteen? Yeah? Fifteenth? Okay, 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: it's the fifteenth. As I talked to the producer that 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: is not here with me, and I'm all alone. By 6 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: the way, I missed the date the other day by 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: three days I was on air and Colin was the 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: director over there for Late Kick Live, which we do 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: on the twenty four seven Sports YouTube channel. Subscribe if 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: you haven't already missed the date. By three days, seventy 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: two hours had gone by in the world and I 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: was apparently totally unaware. So that wasn't That wasn't the 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: most flattering moment of my illustrious career. But I really 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: appreciate you submitting some really good questions for this morning's podcast. 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: If you haven't checked us out, and I'm looking at 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: the numbers, we get new subscribers every single day. It 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: seems like here's what we do. Late Cack Live is 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: Sunday night, Tuesday night Thursday night, eight eastern seventh Central 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: on the twenty four seven Sports YouTube channel. There's not 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: a lot of time for Q and A there, but 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: you guys submit a ton of really good questions. So 22 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: on Tuesday morning and Thursday morning, I do the Late 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Cack Extra podcast, which you can find here, in addition 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: to audio podcast replays of all the live shows on Sunday, Tuesday, 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 1: Thursday nights, and I just take some time and answer 26 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: as many of them as I can, and I don't 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: jump through in five seconds at the time, but it's 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: pretty rapid fire and we have a really, really fun 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: time with it. So we're gonna do that this morning. 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: We're in full game week mode, so on Late Cack 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: Live over on the YouTube channel, we are wall to 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: wall Sunday night. I can't believe we got that show 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: in in the amount of time we did. I thought 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: we were going over an hour. We got it in 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: in just over forty minutes. So there's a lot to do, 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: and that's with the SEC not even having started yet. 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: So we do game predictions, give you all the whispers 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: and intel, We do rapid reactions. We've got a lot 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: of betting content. I've told you before. The way that 40 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: I structure my betting content is I'm not just talking 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: to people who bet. A lot of you will never 42 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: bet a penny wisely on this or any sport. But 43 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: yet you're really fascinated with how the entire odds making 44 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: industry works. And you're far more probably willing to value 45 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: the opinion of an odds maker than that of an 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: ap voter. And so that's probably why you're fascinated by that. 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: I identify with that because I feel the same way. 48 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: So we talk about all that. So if you haven't 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: already start checking that out. Kick it off this morning 50 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: kind of with a question that's not so much a 51 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: football related question, but a lot of you ask, and 52 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: this is Cynthia, but a lot of you ask, how 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: can we help? Like, what can we do? Very very easy? 54 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Just subscribe here if you haven't already. Five star reviews 55 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: are very important on this medium. And I'm mainly talking 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: to the Apple podcast crowd. I'm not discriminating against the 57 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: other crowd. I'm saying this is one of the metrics 58 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: that we just happen to value on the Apple side 59 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: of things. So five star reviews, written reviews. Subscribe to 60 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: the YouTube channel if you haven't already, and hey, give 61 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: me a follow on Twitter at late kick Josh, there's 62 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: a lot going on. Obviously, it's a very very busy 63 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: time of year. I'm not recording every second, so a 64 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, if I'm to go back 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: and forth with you, that'll be the place to do it. 66 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot of breaking news seemingly happening every day, 67 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: occasional weather talk over there too, So that's where you 68 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: can find me pretty much any time of the day 69 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: at late kick Josh, all right, that's enough of that. 70 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: Let's dive in. Blake starts us off this morning. When 71 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: are teams like Texas and Texas A and M and 72 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Tennessee going to stop getting over hyped? Asks, Blake, how 73 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: many four loss seasons from Texas will it take for 74 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: people to realize they aren't an elite program ps. I 75 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: forgive you for picking them to win the Big Twelve. Yes, Blake, 76 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad you realized that I did pick Texas to 77 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: win the Big Twelve. Now, as soon as I did, 78 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: I was not prepared for the inundation. I got in 79 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: my DMS and my email and just friends of mine 80 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: just straight up texting me, just abusing the privilege and 81 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: talking about my pick of Texas, and I can't believe 82 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: you think Texas back. Who in the world said Texas 83 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: is back. I just picked them to win to Big twelve. 84 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: Didn't know they were synonymous, but I understand why maybe 85 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: that misconception would be out there, or hey, maybe I 86 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: just do think Texas is back. So let's answer this, Blake. 87 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: I can only speak for myself. I have not been 88 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: involved to this point in any Texas or Tennessee or 89 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: Texas A and M hype before this season, and I 90 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: would argue I'm still really not part of it this season, 91 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: although I guess picking Texas to go to the playoff 92 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: could be considered Texas hype. But it's not like I 93 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: threw the prediction out there and then just ran. I 94 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: thought I had some pretty good reasons Texas is. To me, 95 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: they're well positioned this year. They've got what you would 96 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: want at quarterback, they got really good running back depth. 97 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: I think they've got an excellent, just overall base of 98 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: talent on the roster. Now it's been mismanaged and underutilized 99 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: this point, but the talent is still there, and it's 100 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: ripe to have the right combination of coaches in the 101 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: building to maximize that potential. And I think that they 102 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: have that now Oklahoma. As much as I'm high on 103 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: the Sooners in twenty twenty one and beyond, think they're 104 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: probably as vulnerable right this second as they've been in 105 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: quite a while. So I just think it's a fortuitous 106 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty for Texas. That's why I picked them, Like, 107 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that is too crazy. But as for 108 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: hype with the other programs A and M, I still 109 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: view them as being well behind Alabama as I do 110 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: the rest of the SEC West going into this year. Tennessee, 111 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: while I think they're probably best positioned to stun someone 112 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: if anyone's going to stun someone in the SEC East, 113 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: they certainly start the season a distinct number three in 114 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: the SEC East. So I'm not feeling myself hyping either 115 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: of those teams. But as for why are they hyped? 116 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: Why do a lot of people hype them? You know? 117 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: But I think it comes down to probably a couple 118 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: of things, probably probably memory, and I guess you would 119 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: call it nostalgia. Memories do not fade easily. People still 120 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: think of Vince Young when they think of Texas. People 121 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: still in the back of their mind when you say 122 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: Tennessee football. They are not picturing teams struggling to make 123 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: a bowl. They in the back of their mind somewhere 124 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: still see Phil Fulmer and still see this team competing 125 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: for a national championship, and they still see Peyton Manning 126 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: and they think Rocky Top and one hundred plus thousand 127 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: people that's still there somewhere in the back of their mind. 128 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: People become crippled. People's minds become crippled by highlight mode 129 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: and nostalgia. This happens to betters all the time. You 130 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: can find folks they're a dime a dozen, just bet 131 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: nothing but overs. And the reason is because they've grown 132 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: up in the highlight culture, which is, you know, people 133 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: in their thirties and above, really probably even twenties and above, 134 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: who have just grown up watching Sports Center their whole life. 135 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: It's all they've seen is highlights. And all that sticks 136 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: in your mind is highlights. When you think of a team, 137 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: you think of highlight plays that you've seen from that team, 138 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: and you never think of the eighty percent of plays 139 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: that you also have seen that didn't work from that team, 140 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: And so your mind thinks in highlights, and therefore you 141 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: think of explosive and you think of just the best 142 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: of the best, but that's not reality. Reality is things 143 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: haven't been so good at Tennessee, things haven't been so 144 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: good at Texas. But I still think that people's minds 145 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: go back to the nostalgia, and I think that's probably that, 146 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: along with just people wanting them to be good again, 147 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: that's probably why they get overhype. But I'm not telling 148 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: you they're overhyped this year, so I'm not necessarily endorsing that. 149 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm not throwing out the word overrated, but I do 150 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: agree that does happen to a certain extent. Dan is 151 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: up next. Dan's got a pretty complex question here. It's 152 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: about TV rights, so let's dive into this. He says, 153 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: why doesn't Fox or ESPN sell individual game packages the 154 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: way boxing does. I personally don't want to buy cable, 155 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: but I'd rather pay five dollars for an individual game. 156 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: I buy the Ohio State game each week, and when 157 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm bored on a Thursday or Monday, maybe I'd buy 158 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football or Thursday Night Football. Cable's too expensive overall, 159 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: and then you get stuck in the contract. Buying a 160 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: game itself would draw in more viewers, which would mean 161 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: more money. That's from Dan. All right, let's unpack this. 162 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: This is a really good question. A lot of you 163 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: have gone the alternative route. You have cut the cord, 164 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: as they say, from cable, and maybe you've gone Hulu, 165 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: maybe you've gone YouTube TV. I moved to Nashville in 166 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: January January twenty first true story. I have not even 167 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: brought the TV in from the back of my jeep. 168 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: I have not even unpacked my TV, much less plugged 169 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: it in here. I have never lived without cable before 170 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: until now, and it turns out I didn't need it. Shocking, 171 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: But I also don't have any other means to watch stuff. 172 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I let me whisper this, I boot like 173 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: my buddies watch ESPN accounts sometimes, but I don't really 174 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: have any of these. Like I'm just kind of living 175 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: over here with nothing. I got Netflix, so I'll watch 176 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: The Office in Parks and rec on Netflix. Like that's 177 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: about it. I go to the office Like Saturday, I 178 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: was in the office and I'm the only one. Colin 179 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: and I director. Colin and I are the only people 180 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: allowed in there. So I was in there all by 181 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: myself with like forty seven TVs on every single game. 182 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: That's where I go to watch the games if I'm 183 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: not going to a game. But Dan, this is a 184 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: good question. So the reason they don't do it like 185 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: boxing does is because boxing doesn't have conference affiliation attached 186 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: to it. They don't have individually negotiated TV rights deals. Also, 187 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: boxing is a sport that it was based on a 188 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: pay per view model. Boxing is sort of like pro 189 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: wrestling in that boxing was made for the pay per 190 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: view model in the latter years, I mean the TV 191 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: based years now. As for college football, college football totally different. 192 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: Want you to think about this with me. One of 193 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: the main reasons that conferences exist is because the trade 194 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: off for the collective bargaining power that you can get 195 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: is worth giving up your individuality. Here's what I mean 196 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: by that. If you're just out there on your own 197 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: and you can go negotiate your own TV deals, that's wonderful. 198 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: But there's a reason why. Let's say the SEC for example, 199 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: there's a reason why you see those goofy commercials. They 200 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: may seem goofy to you, it just means more SEC SEC. 201 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: That conference markets itself very heavily. You notice that they 202 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: market the brand well. The SEC has never played a 203 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: football game. There are member institutions that have played a 204 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: football game, but the SEC itself has never played. So 205 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: why are they marketing their conference? Well, they heavily market 206 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: a brand because brands build followings, and then followings build 207 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: value and value demands bidding wars. And as a result, 208 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: if you're Georgia, for example, your one one your one 209 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: fourteenth share of TV money from the SEC affiliation is 210 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: far more than you would make on your own And 211 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: because the same people who structured that have all the 212 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: power in the room negotiation wise, the model that you 213 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: just pitched DAN, unfortunately, is not going to happen anytime soon. 214 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: The next hope that you would have DAN is if 215 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: and when this whole current structure splits up, and if 216 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: we have a situation where maybe the power five types 217 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: they go their own way Number three song on the 218 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: Fleetwood Mac Greatest Hits album, Good song there Forrest Gump 219 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: soundtrack two, go your own way. And if that happens, 220 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: and when that happens, ask yourself, how are the TV 221 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: deals affected? Then? What do the new TV deals look 222 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: like them? I think they'll still be strong conference affiliation. 223 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it could be your only opportunity for change. 224 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: Next up is Noah, he said, praying for the folks 225 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: on the Gulf Coast about to deal with Hurricane Sally. 226 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: I know you've talked about storm chasing before, and I 227 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: know there used there seemed to be a lot of 228 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: tornadoes when hurricanes come on shore. Do you have any 229 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: good storm chasing stories from hurricanes? As weird as that 230 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: may sound, Thanks for the show again, Noah, Noah, Yeah, 231 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: I do. I think possibly I've told a version of 232 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: this story. There shouldn't be versions of stories, there should 233 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: just be stories for the truth. So I think i've 234 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: told this story before. I don't remember the context, and 235 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: we got so many new listeners recently that let me 236 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: just tell it again. Hurricane Ivan came on shore either 237 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: four or five. I was living down in Columbus. I 238 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: think I told the story about the pickup football game 239 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: we played that was where there was standing water on 240 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: the field and there were just these chunks of ants 241 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: because their ant beds had been flooded. Don't get tackled 242 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: in the ants, folks, it's bad. You're gonna have a 243 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: bad time. So here's what happened. I was also coaching 244 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: a little league baseball team, and so we had team 245 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: pictures scheduled for the next day, the day after the 246 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: pickup football game. So it was a system that took 247 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: a couple of days to get out of here. So 248 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: we're up in Hamilton, Georgia at Charles Moultrie Park, very 249 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: beautiful place right off Highway one sixteen there in Hamilton, 250 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: Georgia for those familiar, And there is a big building 251 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: that is kind of the central location of the park 252 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: and that's where we were taking our team pictures. And 253 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: you can see out probably a mile to two miles 254 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: across the highway and over into this just huge openings. 255 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: It looks like a painting. It's really really picturesque on 256 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: a nice day. This was not a nice day. Now, 257 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't raining at the time, so we were trying 258 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: to get an in between rain squalls and we're taking 259 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: our picture and the folks that have there, we have 260 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: our back to everything, and so the folks who are 261 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: taking our pictures are okay, look to the left, look 262 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: at the right. Okay, now pout for me, Josh, power 263 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: for me. And so in the midst of all this, 264 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: that part didn't happen, but in the midst of all this, 265 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: there's a guy, a parent off to the side, and 266 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: he just says, I think that's a tornado, and I think, well, 267 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: this dude said that way too calmly, so there's no 268 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: way there's actually one back there. I'm going to ignore that. 269 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: And then someone else said yeah yeah, and then fourteen 270 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: people exclaimed simultaneously, yeah yeah. We turn around and that's 271 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: exactly what's happened. Noah is one of those brief spin 272 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: up tornadoes have popped up right across the highway from us, 273 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: moving straight towards us, So we had to run only 274 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: option not too much, unlike various scenes in the movie Twister, 275 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: we were just left with no other recourse. We had 276 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: to run. So we run down this very steep and 277 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: soaked hill and a couple of us didn't make it 278 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: down that hill. Let me rephrase, okay, didn't make it 279 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: on our feet all the way down that hill. And 280 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: oh there was some rough times for some people who 281 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: weren't already in the best of shape. Mind you. We 282 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: had to go hide in a dugout, and sure enough 283 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: that tornado moved across the complex, right across that building 284 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: that we were in. This ended up being an EF 285 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: zero tornado. It wasn't a big tornado, but it was 286 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: the closest that I had ever been, and that whole 287 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: sounded like a freight train deal well, not so much. 288 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: What it sounded like is a giant wind tunnel combined 289 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: with a vacuum cleaner being that close to a smaller one. 290 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: That's what it sounded like. So anyway, it goes by, 291 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: and then as soon as it did, I ran back 292 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: up the hill because I wanted to watch it, and 293 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: I watched it tear up all the fencing and throw 294 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: trash cans all over the place, and it did a 295 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: little bit of damage there. It could have been a 296 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: lot worse. But yeah, noah, I guess I have chased 297 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: a tornado. Well, let me put a finer point on it. 298 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: And hurricanes, I've been chased by one. There was really 299 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: not a whole lot of chasing going on on my end. 300 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: But that was both a terrifying and now, since I'm okay, 301 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: a very fun memory. But because you mentioned that in 302 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: the context of Hurricane Sally, yeah, you're right. A lot 303 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: of people are about to get a lot of rain 304 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: dumped on them starting tonight when this comes on shore. 305 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: And keep in mind we're also still trying to help 306 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: out our folks about one hundred, one hundred and fifty 307 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: miles to the west that dealt with a much more 308 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: powerful hurricane and Hurricane Laura recently. It's a Lenina year. 309 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: It's not a fun time, guys, and Lake Charles Cameron 310 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: Parish devastate him. And we've got a lot of friends 311 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: of the program down there, So I continue to implore you, 312 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: if you can help out, please help them out. So 313 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: we don't joke around about that. But the one I'm 314 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: talking about has long since passed, so I thought i'd 315 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: alleviate the mood there just a little bit with that story, 316 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: all right. Next up, this is a very good one. 317 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: Had a couple of them kind of on the same theme. 318 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: I recently discovered the podcast. I really enjoy it. Keep 319 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: up the phenomenal work. But my question is about something 320 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: that's not phenomenal. What does South Carolina have to do 321 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: in order to get back to being a consistently ranked 322 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: top twenty five team. Can they do it with mush 323 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: Champ And how does a quarterback commit like Gunners Stock 324 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: can help them get there. My belief about South Carolina 325 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: very fundamental in nature said this for a while now. 326 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything unique about South Carolina football 327 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: right now. I don't think there is any kind of 328 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: special preparation one has to do to get ready for 329 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: South Carolina. I don't necessarily know even that over the 330 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: past few years you could look at South Carolina and 331 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: readily describe their offensive identity. And that's you watching the 332 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: games every weekend. So if you can't, I don't think 333 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: really anyone else can. That's the first thing. Pick a lane. 334 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: What is South Carolina football? And offensively specifically, what is 335 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: Carolina football? Now? The follow up to that is what 336 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: have they been in the offensive coordinator position? And the 337 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: answer is really nothing to write home about. There is 338 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 1: this feeling up there that is unconfirmed because you can 339 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: talk about practice reports all you want, we got to 340 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: see it. But there's a feeling up there that Will 341 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: Muschamp has a guy for the first time in the 342 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator chair in Mike bow that he is willing 343 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: to toss the keys to that he trusts fully. Same 344 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: kind of feeling exists right now at Auburn with Chad Morris. 345 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: I am in the wait and see camp on both 346 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: of those having followed those programs like I have. But 347 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: if that's true, then that's part one of the equation, 348 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: part two of the equation. As you mentioned, get quarterback 349 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: figured out. Got a good battle going on up there 350 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: right now that we're going to talk about a little 351 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: bit later on. But you mentioned Gunner Stockton. I mean, 352 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: that's an elite talent coming in next year, no doubt 353 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: about that. He's got to be magnetizing first off, because 354 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: you've got to have talent come in there with him. 355 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: And then secondly, he's got to have a stable program 356 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: that he's coming in there too. But if you were 357 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: to get those things in place alone, then I trust 358 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: the will must chant blueprint. Defensively. I trust the way 359 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: that a program is going to be built defensively. Keeping 360 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: guys healthy is the other big key for them that 361 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: has gone horribly awry in recent years, and they made 362 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: some changes and strength and conditioning. Let's hope that those 363 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 1: things pay off. But you get those things checked, I 364 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: think it's safe to say you'd be a top twenty 365 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: five annual team at that point. Kendrick ninety seven up next, 366 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: Did I see correctly that they passed a new rule 367 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: where officials have to be on the field ninety minutes 368 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: before kickoff. Now, what in the world is the purpose 369 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: for that. Are people just sitting around making up rules 370 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: for the fun of it, Kendrick, That is not a 371 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: bad observation, but they think there is actually some purpose 372 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: behind this. So let me explain it. You're not watching 373 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: TV sixty minutes before a game, but if you're covering 374 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: the game, like I am, a lot of times, I'm there, 375 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: I'm on the field and I see what happens, and 376 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: it's a miracle. We don't have any more of those 377 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: pregame altercations that sometimes you see when broadcasts come on 378 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: the air and they say, this is what was happening 379 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: a little while ago. Look at this and you see, 380 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, Kentucky and Virginia Tech mixing it up on 381 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: the field. Child's play, just foolishness. None of those folks 382 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: ever really want to fight, or hardly any of them 383 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: really want to fight, but that stuff happens or comes 384 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: close to happening a lot more than you imagine. So basically, 385 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: the answer to this was, let's get officials on the 386 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: field ninety minutes before kickoff, and so none of this 387 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 1: will happen, and I gotta be honest with you. I 388 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: remember being at several Alabama games, including like playoff games, 389 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: and I think the Clemson semi final game down in 390 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: the Superdome was one that I vividly remember Tony Brown 391 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: just acting like a psychopath. Which is a compliment to Tony. 392 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: He's in the NFL now, but he played at Alabama. 393 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: He was a five star defensive back from I believe Beaumont, Texas, 394 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: and he comes into Alabama, had his ups and downs early, 395 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: ended up being a contributor gets on the field for him. 396 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: But that's not what Tony Brown was most famous for. 397 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: If you ever covered Alabama, it was his pregame ritual. 398 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: Tony Brown again just wired a little bit differently from 399 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: the neck up. Tony Brown was a guy who it 400 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: was if you could properly harness what he had mentally, 401 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: then he was very dangerous on the field. But as 402 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: I said, just as sure as you could harness it 403 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: one week, you'd be sending him home from a semi 404 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: final Cotton Bowl game before the Michigan State game the 405 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: next week because he went after a coach in warm ups. 406 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was hit and miss with Tony Brown. 407 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: But in the pregame, Tony Brown would come out shirtless, 408 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: of course, because he had I think negative four percent 409 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: body fat. He would come out shirtless and he would 410 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: just wander around the field and he would hop and 411 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: skip around the field. I don't just mean on Alabama 412 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: side of the fifty yard line. I mean he would 413 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: hop around the entire field and he would run right 414 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: in between the opposing team doing their early warm ups, 415 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: completely oblivious. Tony Brown was as if he was in 416 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: a beautiful state park in the middle of Wyoming and 417 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, oh, look over there, there's a moose, and 418 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: look at that butterfly. That was what Tony Brown looked 419 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: like he was doing. That's where he looked like he 420 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: thought he was not a care in the world. He'd 421 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: go two inches from someone's face and not even look 422 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: at him, just kept going, just kept skipping on by him. 423 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: And so I would look at that and I would 424 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: wait for someone to go off on him, and no 425 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: one ever did. But that doesn't mean they couldn't. So 426 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: this rule, Kendrick could keep Tony Brown on his side 427 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: of the fifty at least. Let's say that Jessica is 428 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: up next. Jessica thought she was getting salty, so she 429 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: had to give a She had to give a warning 430 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: label to her question. Jessica says, I'm not bashing you 431 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: or anything. I'm just genuinely asking why do you keep 432 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: talking about the Big Ten every show when we've got 433 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: actual conferences playing football. Jessica, I understand this sentiment. I 434 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: don't want to be talking about the Big Ten and 435 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: the foolishness that's been going on up there right now. 436 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: I wish I was just talking about their season starting. 437 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: But let me walk you through it, because I understand 438 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: what you're saying here. So there are some of you 439 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: who are sick and tired of hearing us talk about 440 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: Big Ten, but there are tons of you who aren't. 441 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: So Jessica, let me And this is a dangerous concept, 442 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: but I want to put you in my shoes for 443 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: a second. I want you to think like me. Dangerous. 444 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: I told you, let's say that you talked Big ten 445 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: a couple of shows, and you even led with it 446 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: like I've been doing on Late Cake. That's not by accident, folks, 447 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: I've been leading with it for a reason. So then 448 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: you look at the metrics, and you look at the 449 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: you look at the data that comes in the next 450 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: morning usually, and the analytics from the viewership numbers, and 451 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: you look at the click through rates, and you look 452 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: at the average watch times on all that Big ten content, 453 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: and you look at the meters spiking every time, and 454 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: you look at the traffic just being incredible every time. Well, 455 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: I've told you before, I don't structure this show for me. 456 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: I structure it for you. One of the most important, 457 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: yet forgotten rules in this business is you don't put 458 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: together your shows to amuse you and entertain you. You 459 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: put it together to entertain and inform your audience. And 460 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: the audience is really into Big ten stuff right now, 461 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: not everyone, not everyone. That's why I kind of try 462 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: and structure it as a buffet where eventually everyone is satisfied. 463 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: You've probably been to a buffet before where you look 464 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: at stuff that you wouldn't touch if it was the 465 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: last food on earth, But then there's some other stuff 466 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: over here. Ooh, I kind of like that. Well, the 467 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: guy sitting at the table next to you may feel 468 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: the opposite. So hopefully I can have everything on the 469 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: buffet to eventually appease the entire audience. But the point 470 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: with the Big Ten. Is this is really important. Now, 471 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 1: all joking aside, It's really important what's going on up 472 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: there as it relates to the overall structure, the overall 473 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: ecosystem of college football. When the MAC bowed out, that's 474 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: one thing. The Big Ten bowing out of a season, 475 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: that's a whole different thing. And Pac twelve following in 476 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: their footsteps, that's a whole different thing. It's really really important, 477 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: And Jessica, a lot of people do care about it. 478 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: So you notice I don't spend twenty minutes on it, 479 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: like I get through it, and I don't repeat stuff 480 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: two or three times. But mainly, what I want to 481 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: do is separate the fact from fiction because a lot 482 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: of you are at work all day, a lot of 483 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: you have actual lives to live, and you don't just 484 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: live with the minute by minute updates from this stuff. 485 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: So really, what I want to do is make our 486 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: show one that you can come to and you can 487 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: separate that stuff, and it's a filtration process and you 488 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: can trust that we've gotten all the bs out of 489 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: the way. Here's the stuff you need to know if 490 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: you just want to stay informed on this, Here's what 491 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: you need to know. Boom, take it, and now we 492 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: move on, so hopefully we don't have to talk about 493 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: it much longer, Marty. Next up, Jim Cheney is now 494 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: at Tennessee. This will be his first time in Guarantano's 495 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: college career that he has an offensive coordinated for two 496 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: years in a row, Guarantano being the quarterback there. For 497 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: those unfamiliar, this has to help him as a quarterback, right, 498 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: It has to make him more consistent. What are your thoughts? Yeah, Marty, 499 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: That and an all SEC caliber offensive line that goes 500 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: a long way and helping too. But you're right, a 501 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: lot of folks in the handicapping world getting ready for 502 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: the season. Those are people who bet basically, try and 503 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: generate their own lines on games and compare it to 504 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: Vegas and then bet the games where they differ an opinion. 505 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: So handicapper's early early on looked at this and realized, 506 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: there's going to be an advantage for us if we 507 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: take the teams that have the same offensive coordinator as 508 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: last year, same head coach, same offensive system, same quarterback, 509 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: and let's bet on those teams early in the year. 510 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: But a lot of folks who think like that have 511 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: shied away from Tennessee reason is simple. They don't trust 512 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: Jered Garantano. Jered Garantano is not a preseason all anything, 513 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: and so Jim Chaney probably thought of the same way 514 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator. I think Jim Cheney's always been 515 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: thought of a lot more highly in coaching circles than 516 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: he has in the water cooler circle, if you will, 517 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: the message board circle, the talk radio circle. And maybe 518 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: that's right, maybe that's wrong. I the reason, one of 519 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: the reasons that I think Tennessee could be in a 520 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: position to shock someone is Tennessee is not going to 521 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: do anything overly special offensively, but they have potentially the 522 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: pieces in place to just not lose games. And sometimes 523 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: not losing a game wins it by fault for you, 524 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: because some teams, if you just sit there long enough, 525 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: they'll hand you a game, especially the ones that have 526 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: moving pieces in the areas where you've been consistent year 527 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: over year. Now, the one thing I worry about now 528 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: with Tennessee is all those advantages, all those hidden advantages 529 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: that maybe they could have sprung on people. Does it 530 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: get wiped out because of all this COVID garbage they've 531 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: had to deal with and so many guys being out. 532 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not calling it garbage in a sense that 533 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: they've taken protocols they didn't need to take. No, they've 534 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: done exactly what they're supposed to do. But it's still garbage. 535 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: It's a shame, that's what it is that they have 536 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: had to practice with dozens of players being out. Now, 537 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: I know we extended camp for that reason, and we 538 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: don't play in the SEC till the twenty sixth for 539 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: that reason. But the bottom line still is. You know, Florida, 540 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: for example, they've had virtually no problems with COVID, reported 541 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: no problems with COVID. Tennessee has had a nightmare. They've 542 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: had enough problems for the entire conference combined in Knoxville Way. So, Marty, 543 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: I hope along with you, brother, I hope, but I'm 544 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: leary of what this has done to their ability to prepare. 545 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: Russell is next. Let's say you're a five star quarterback. 546 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: You can go anywhere in the country. Where would you go. Well, 547 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: my first answer here is easy, it's Ohio State. There's 548 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: been no program in America, aside from maybe Oklahoma, there's 549 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: been no program in America. It's been pumping out quarterbacks 550 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: like Ohio State has. They've got so many good ones 551 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: they don't have room for all the Heisman Trophy first 552 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 1: round picks up there. Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow, Guys, Joe Burrow, 553 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: you know that name, right. There wasn't any room for 554 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: him up there. He had to go elsewhere. He had 555 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: to all right, what's my backup option here? I guess 556 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: I'll just go somewhere else and end up winning Heisman 557 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: and national Championship and rewriting the college football record books 558 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: and being a first round top draft pick in the 559 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: first round. There wasn't any It wasn't not room for him. 560 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: He couldn't even start at Ohio State. So I'd go there. 561 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: But also I thought about this a little deeper. What 562 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: about Notre Dame. Keep in mind the question from Russell 563 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 1: is I'm a five star quarterback. So you may think, oh, 564 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: Notre Dame doesn't have good quarterbacks. Now, they hadn't had 565 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: a great quarterback. But I am the great quarterback. So 566 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm the one who can walk in the door and 567 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: change things. If I trusted my ability to attract other 568 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: top talent to come play with me. And I liked 569 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: the offensive staff in place. Tommy Reese is the OC 570 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: up there now at South Bend, and Brian Kelly just 571 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: signed a new extension, so he's not going anywhere. If I, 572 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: let's say, respected the history and rich tradition of that program, 573 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: and I wanted to be someone who was known for 574 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: going in and resurrecting the identity and brand and re 575 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: establishing at the national level a historic power like Notre Dame, 576 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: that'd be great. Notre Dame's not a bad program. Notre 577 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: Dame is one of the top seven or eight programs 578 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: in America right now. So if I'm a five star quarterback, 579 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: maybe I'm the one who can be the impetus for 580 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: going in there and ten years later when you're talking 581 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: about them being a perennial title contender again, I'm the 582 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: one who got that started. I am to Notre Dame 583 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: what Deshaun Watson was to Clemson. Let's say, so maybe 584 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: maybe or what I could do is do like I 585 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: did with the same question that was given to me 586 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: about being the top long snapper in the country. And 587 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: I could just openly say, as I go into my 588 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: college career, I'm only staying one year at any program, 589 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: and I could just go four different places. Remember, I'm 590 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: using my red shirt year at Hawaii so I can 591 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: get two years on the island. Maybe I just do that. 592 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: You know what, whatever I do, respect my decision. We 593 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: got a good one here about how many times can 594 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: you lose and still make the playoff? This year one 595 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: of those. I beat you in the regular season, you 596 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: beat me in the conference title game? Can we both go? 597 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna happen somewhere, and Andrew does too, 598 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: So we're gonna ask that question and dare to answer 599 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: it right after this, So Andrew asked if Georgia loses 600 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: to Alabama in the regular season because the offense just 601 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: isn't there yet. But then Georgia beats Alabama in the 602 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: SEC title game, so they're both one and one against 603 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: each other, and the one loss is their only loss. 604 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: So Georgia beat Alabama, Bama beat Georgia, they both have 605 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: one loss. Do you think that they would both make 606 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: the college football Playoff? Andrew yes, unequivocally. In fact, you'd 607 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: be hard pressed to paint me a picture where both 608 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: don't make the playoff. You know what I thought about 609 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: dead serious here? My mind just assumed a green check 610 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: mark next to the names of both of these programs, 611 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: especially if you are without other Power five programs and 612 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: other other Power five conferences playing the season. I didn't 613 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: even think about Alabama and Georgia. Here was the first 614 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: question that came to my mind. How many losses does 615 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: Florida have in this whole scenario. Florida doesn't play Alabama 616 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: this year. They do play Georgia every year. What were 617 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: to happen. Let's say if what you said plays out, 618 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: they both have one loss, one of them's the conference champ. 619 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: Let's say Georgia wins the conference championship in the trade off. 620 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: What if Florida's only loss had been to Georgia in 621 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: the regular season, So you got Florida there with one 622 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: loss too, and their only loss was to the SEC champ. 623 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm getting at here. I'm not wondering 624 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: if we could get two teams in a playoff from 625 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: a conference. Of course that could happen. Could that be 626 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: the first time that you were ever sitting there saying, 627 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: wait a second, could we justify having three of these 628 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: teams in here? A lot of you scoff at that 629 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: out of principle. I don't care what conference you're in. 630 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: Come playoff time, I peel the sticker off the back 631 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: of everyone's helmet, and I just want the four best 632 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: and most deserving teams in. Let's make sure we marry 633 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: those two concepts. It's not just a raw power rating. 634 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: There's merit involved. But if you've got three one loss 635 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: teams having gone through that ten game conference schedule this year, 636 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: I would have to entertain it. Of course, I'd have 637 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: to see what the rest of the landscape looked like. 638 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: I u's in, they're in. But let's say the Big 639 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: ten didn't never get it zact together. Or let's say 640 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: the Big twelve produced a conference champ but it was 641 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: kind of a really just a mess of a season, 642 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: and the G five doesn't really have one strong candidate 643 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: who knows what that could look like. So Andrew, Yeah, 644 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: they'd both be in virtually no doubt in my mind. 645 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: Gator Fan eleven eighty nine. I've listened to the hype 646 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: around Florida. It's got me excited, But in the back 647 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: of my mind, I know we are not there in recruiting. 648 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: What do we need to do to keep the four 649 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: and five star talent in state? All Right? Let's break 650 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: this down. We have to add in certain qualifiers as 651 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: usual when we talk Florida. Florida. As we sit here 652 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: this morning, again it is early, it's mid September. Now, 653 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: they are the seventh ranked recruiting class in the country 654 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty one cycle. They are fourth in 655 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: the SEC. But this is a that's not a bad thing. 656 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: So the point is Florida's recruiting. Every time we talk 657 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: about it, it's within the context of how do they 658 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: compare to Georgia. That's really what it's about. How do 659 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: they compare to Alabama? How do they compare to the elite? 660 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: Because there is no reason Florida couldn't be that, So 661 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: how do they compare there? And there's still a tick 662 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: off there? Like that's the entire premise surrounding this question. 663 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: They're not bad, They're not in the forties or anything 664 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: like that. How do you turn it around? Well, I'll 665 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: tell you how you turn it around. You start by 666 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: doing exactly what they've already done. Jason Marshall. Everyone thought 667 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: that guy's going to Alabama or Miami. From Palmetto down 668 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: there in Miami. He commits to Florida. Pretty big surprise 669 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: recently that was in August, early August, Corey Collier the 670 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: next day from the same high school down in Palmetto 671 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: and Miami High four star safety top one hundred player 672 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: commits to Florida. So they've done recently in the past 673 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: couple of months a pretty bang up job of keeping 674 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: a couple of big in state kids in the state. 675 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: But outside of overhauling your staff, Like, if you're not 676 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: going to make big staff changes, I'll tell you what 677 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: would go a long way. Beating Georgia would go a 678 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: long way. I mean looking being able to walk into 679 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: a living room and looking kids and their parents in 680 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: the eye and saying, hey, we're the alpha program in 681 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: this division. Now, whether it's true or not. You know, 682 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: it's a year to year thing. It's not like teams 683 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: win seventeen games in a row. Sometimes this stuff can 684 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: go back and forth like a ping pong ball. But 685 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: if you could beat Georgia this year, it's validation. No 686 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: one's able to walk into their living rooms and recruit 687 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: against you saying yeah, they're a good program. But I 688 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: mean they're never going to win the East, Like they're 689 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: never going to get over that. Georgia hump. Well, if 690 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: you get over it on the field, they can't say 691 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: that anymore. So in lieu of making staff changes, how 692 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: about making a perception change and making people realize that 693 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: you're there for good. That I think will go a 694 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: long way. Midwest Dan Gator Fan, did not ask a 695 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: Florida question. As it turned out, He says, how late 696 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: do you think the Big Ten could start their season 697 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: and still be considered for the college football Playoff? As 698 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: I said we're recording tuesday morning, I am so tired 699 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: of waiting on the Big Ten. I did not even hard. 700 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: We talk about them in the podcast this morning, but 701 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: as we sit here, we are still awaiting a decision. 702 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: And the big question now, as Dan asked, is how 703 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: late can they afford to start and still be qualified 704 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: and capable of making a college football playoff? Dan, I 705 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: think the date is October seventeenth, but you could theoretically 706 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: start later than that and play an eight game schedule. 707 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: But this brings about a question our Bud Elliott was 708 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: kind of tossing around the other morning yesterday morning in 709 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: our national editorial meeting, and a lot of us had 710 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: really quick responses to it. He said, wait a second, 711 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: how many games can they play and still be qualified 712 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: to make the playoff, And the answer is there's not 713 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: a set number. There's really is because no one's ever 714 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: thought that this was going to be necessary, and so 715 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: a lot of people have floated out ten games, and 716 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: of course that would be fine. Some others have floated 717 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 1: out eight games, and I guess an eight game season 718 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: would allow you to start later than October seventeenth, And 719 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: most people I've spoken to would still be okay with that, 720 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: but they kind of balance it with saying, well, you 721 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: better be really strong. There better be no doubt. If 722 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: you're Ohio State and you've only played eight games, there 723 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: better be no doubt in my mind that you were 724 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: one of the best teams. But if they only play 725 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: six games, that ain't happening. To me. That's not happening. 726 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: If they only played six and you got others playing 727 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: ten out there, I got a hard enough time meeting 728 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: you in the middle at eight. If you're playing six a, 729 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Well? What are you even playing 730 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: a season for? If that's the best that you could 731 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: get off the ground. I mean, I'd still love for 732 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: you to play the season, but I cannot in good 733 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 1: faith be considering you for a playoff if you could 734 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: only play six games. Now, I guess the trade off 735 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: is if you only play a six game season. I 736 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: suppose they're thinking, Okay, well, at that point, we could 737 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: start in November. Great, how about start in October. It 738 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: stands to reason. I don't think whole lot's gonna change 739 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: between mid October and early November. Go ahead and get 740 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: it started then. So my answer, Dan, I think is 741 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: they need to play eight games. That's the minimum. I 742 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: think they need to play Jay hudd up next, knowing 743 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: what you know, now, Josh, did you overrate Iowa State 744 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: or did you underrate Louisiana because Iowa State did not 745 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: look like a team that'll do a lot of winning 746 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: this year? No, they didn't, did they? And this is 747 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: not a lie. I didn't plan this either. I am 748 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: sitting here all by myself recording this morning wearing an 749 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: Iowa State T shirt. Backstory. Did I graduate from Iowa State? No? 750 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: Have I ever been to ames Iowa? No have I 751 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: ever been to Iowa. No flown over it, never been there. 752 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: Do I love Iowa State? Though always been fascinated by 753 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: the program for some reason, always been fascinated. So I 754 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: said that several times on the podcast, and you guys 755 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: were listening, at least one of you in Iowa was 756 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: because you sent me a whole box of goodies that 757 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: I got at the office Saturday, T shirts all over 758 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: the place, and they came right before the loss happened. 759 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: But that's okay because, as you know, my wardrobe is 760 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: very limited. I am notorious for hating to buy clothes, 761 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: and so listen, this Iowa state gift package like doubled 762 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: the size of my wardrobes. So it's been a great 763 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: week and I've been the only person in Nashville wearing 764 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: Iowa state gear. I can promise you that, Yeah, I 765 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: guess I did overrate Iowa, or did I you know, 766 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: because last year they struggled against Northern Iowa in Week 767 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: one and still went on to have a nice year. 768 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: Decent year, not elite by any stretch, But yeah, I 769 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: think I probably did maybe underrate Louisiana just a little bit. 770 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: But I also don't have time to do it right now. 771 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: But I would encourage you to go watch the clip 772 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: on our twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel where 773 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: I did my Week two thoughts. I can't remember what 774 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: it's titled. I think it's like Josh's Week two thoughts. 775 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: You'll see it. It's pretty recent. And I talked about 776 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: the misconception that exists in twenty twenty about the G 777 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: five and P five and these are you used as 778 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 1: these sort of monolithic statements like if you're P five, 779 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: your P five U Alabama is no different than Colorado. Well, 780 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: yeah they are. Yeah, there's a huge difference. And the 781 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is this is not to pick 782 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: on Colorado. I could use Iowa State since that's a team. Actually, 783 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 1: in the conversation here, the gap between Alabama and Iowa 784 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: State is infinitely bigger than the gap between Iowa State 785 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: and Louisiana, if there is a gap at all. But 786 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: if you were to just view it through the lens 787 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: of you got your P fives and your G fives 788 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: Saturday is viewed as some huge upset, it's not a 789 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: huge upset. In fact, as I said on the show, 790 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 1: if I were to put generic uniforms on those teams 791 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: and you didn't get to watch knowing who's who, would 792 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 1: you have even been able to pick the G five 793 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: team and the P five team out. You may have said, 794 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: Louisiana's the P five team. These rosters are very comparable. 795 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: I went and looked up because Arkansas State Becamekansas State, 796 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: I went and looked up those rosters. Would you have 797 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: guessed Arkansas State had more four and five star talent 798 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: on its roster than Kansas State did. K State was 799 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: deeper when you got to the three star range. Not 800 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: infinitely deeper, obviously, but Arkansas State, Kansas State, like Louisiana, 801 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,959 Speaker 1: Iowa State, those Southern athletes with the proliferation of TV 802 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: deals and knowing you can play on TV every week, 803 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: and scouts knowing where Louisiana is these days, Louisiana Lafayette, 804 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: which I'm not calling them as a program, but that's 805 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 1: the city they're in. There's every incentive in the world 806 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: to stay close to home. And so these kids who 807 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,439 Speaker 1: just barely miss out on having an offer from Louisiana 808 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 1: State University LSU, or A and M or Alabama, they 809 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: don't feel it necessary to go a thousand miles from 810 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 1: home anymore just to play in the P five. They'll 811 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: go to Louisiana Tech, They'll go to Houston, They'll go 812 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: to Louisiana in Lafayette and they'll be just fine. And 813 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: you know what happens, you end up having a better 814 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: roster than some of your brethren in the P five 815 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: who don't get to live in the South and therefore 816 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: recruit right out their back door in the South. Govall's twelve, 817 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: why aren't teams a combination? So he says, why are 818 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: teams either triple option teams or normal teams? If it's 819 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 1: so hard to defend the triple option, why don't elite 820 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: teams run occasional triple option plays? And the answer Govaal's 821 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: twelve is they do, just not the way that Navy 822 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: has always done it or Army has always done it. 823 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: So think about this. Basically, you game plan based on 824 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: your personnel. I think that's pretty common. How would you 825 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: invest your practice time? Practice time is very precious, and 826 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: the triple option it takes repetition to perfect. You don't 827 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: do that sloppily. If you do it sloppily, you might 828 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: as well not do it. And so to really run 829 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: the triple option in the classical sense as you're talking about, 830 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: it takes time to perfect that. If you were a 831 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: modernized offense and you had elite skill personnel, on your 832 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: roster and perimeter talent. Would you invest time practicing that 833 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: or would you look around and say, wait a second, 834 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 1: through the RPO game, we can incorporate triple option principles 835 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: here too, except one of the options off of this 836 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: thing is a pass. That's what's happened. A lot of 837 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: people have long since realized this GV. They've long since 838 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: realized a triple option is hard to defend. Yet it 839 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: is you know what makes it even harder when the 840 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 1: threat of the pass is involved. And so that's where 841 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: a lot of that RPO concept came from, is saying, 842 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: let's put defenses in a compromised position, just like we've 843 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: always done with triple option football, but let's also tailor 844 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: it to a modernized talent pool that we have here. 845 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: We're going out and getting all these foreign five star receivers. 846 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: We got running backs who can flex out of the 847 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: backfield and run a four, five, six, forty Why don't 848 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: we use them instead of just handing off and running 849 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: the dive for forty five times in a game? That 850 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: is today's triple option. It exists. It exists. You'll see 851 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: it run or a version of it run in almost 852 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: every major college football game that you watch this Saturday, 853 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 1: you will see triple option principles. They just don't look 854 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: like they do or did in nineteen forty six or 855 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: modern day service academy football. It's a really good question 856 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 1: there though, had some good stuff this morning. Remember we 857 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: are three nights a week live now, so tonight, if 858 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: you're listening on Tuesday, we will do a live broadcast 859 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: on the twenty four seven Sports YouTube channel. Check us 860 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: out there a subscribe there. 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