Speaker 1: What's up. You're off in God's Country with three and
Speaker 1: this is also known as the Brothers Hunt, where we
Speaker 1: take a weekly drive to the intersection of country music
Speaker 1: in the great outdoors two things that go together, like
Speaker 1: ducks in Arkansas.
Speaker 2: Ohn sass threw me off, or guys that want you
Speaker 2: to think they know how to hunt and that have
Speaker 2: hunted their whole lives, but say revealed themselves by saying
Speaker 2: bows and arrows. The double s is bows with bows
Speaker 2: and arrows, not bow and arrow not one bows and arrows.
Speaker 1: Actually you would just say bow. Brought to you by
Speaker 1: meat Eater.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: We're excited about this one. We've been on his podcast
Speaker 1: a couple of times and he's going to be a
Speaker 1: recurring I think, a recurring character on ours. Mister Bobby
Speaker 1: Bones character, a definite like character of a human, no doubt,
Speaker 1: no doubt. He's got so many little things like from
Speaker 1: the glasses and the good hair and the dry it's
Speaker 1: like a character. It's crazy. He's drawn up. His story
Speaker 1: is great. He touches on it a little bit today,
Speaker 1: but his journey, and then he touches on the state
Speaker 1: of country music. And then we may have a little
Speaker 1: drone situation going on over his house that he Oh,
Speaker 1: one thing I wanted to talk about. He videoed one
Speaker 1: of those drones from the bat in the bathtub, and
Speaker 1: I wanted you forgot I'm a bath guy too, so
Speaker 1: I want to talk to him about that little You guys,
Speaker 1: but uh, you'll you'll really enjoy this one. Hey, Thanks
Speaker 1: for thanks for listening, Thanks for watching. Go follow us
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Speaker 1: a comment. We've what do we calling the segment? Roast
Speaker 1: us in the what is it? Five star roasted roast
Speaker 1: for ratings? Yeah, roase for ratings. Yeah, we have a
Speaker 1: good one, dude, let me read it, squirrely Dan. This
Speaker 1: is coming from who dry mountain hunter and can't read.
Speaker 2: Let someone else do all the work for them, show up,
Speaker 2: shoot the deer, and then call themselves good of hunters.
Speaker 2: What they need to be hunting is some new podcast guests,
Speaker 2: because everyone is getting tired of listening to and talk
Speaker 2: about the two hondo he shot out of the truck
Speaker 2: window three months ago. That's a good that's a good one.
Speaker 2: Hurts because it's true a little bit. Oh, it's so true, man,
Speaker 2: I shut that deer out of a truck. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. That's that's that's talking about.
Speaker 1: Well done, Yeah, well done, yeah, d m us. And
Speaker 1: where you lift so we can come whip your ass, yeah,
Speaker 1: d m us. And we may send you this T
Speaker 1: shirt unless you're a good buddy of ours, which you
Speaker 1: probably It kind of kind of stills, kind of fish
Speaker 1: the inside ball right there. Yeah, but thanks to leave
Speaker 1: us those five star ratings. They help help.
Speaker 2: We had what forties, they said, forty something, so we've
Speaker 2: been asking for them, so we're gonna ask again, please
Speaker 2: leave those five star ratings. Help the Chanella doesn't come
Speaker 2: down and shoot bows and arrows at our feet.
Speaker 1: Bows plural and arrows. Hey, real quick. We we meant
Speaker 1: to do this on the podcast with Bobby but didn't
Speaker 1: get a chance. We're sending our prayers and our thoughts
Speaker 1: out to l A with everybody that's dealing with the
Speaker 1: fires out there. It's insane, it's it's it's really really
Speaker 1: sad actually, and it's already taken out a whole community
Speaker 1: and a lot of people lost their homes, some have
Speaker 1: lost their lives. And uh, we feel for you, we're
Speaker 1: praying for you, were lifting you up, We're gonna post
Speaker 1: some some links and and and places you can go
Speaker 1: if you listen to the show and want to want
Speaker 1: to help some people out and donate some money out
Speaker 1: there or whatever. But uh, yeah, we're thinking about y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm not really close to l A. I've never I've
Speaker 1: never lived out there, spent a lot of time out there,
Speaker 1: but I know a lot of people have, so, uh,
Speaker 1: we're thinking about y'all. Praying for you. Thanks for listening
Speaker 1: to God's Country. Thank you for listening to God's Country.
Speaker 1: If you don't know what where speed means, that's a podcast.
Speaker 3: That then fed at me.
Speaker 1: Oh my bad, already easy. Hey, Uh, we're really excited
Speaker 1: about this man, Thank you.
Speaker 3: I am excited too, because I you know, it's like
Speaker 3: I was stood up for a day and then I
Speaker 3: was given a second chance at life. And so from
Speaker 3: the first time when I was stood up and I
Speaker 3: got really excited, and so this time when I showed
Speaker 3: up here, I was a little nervous.
Speaker 1: You were even going to be here there, You don't
Speaker 1: fake building. You don't even know how close you got
Speaker 1: to being stood up. You don't know how close you
Speaker 1: guys were to being killed when you left the building
Speaker 1: after you stood me up again.
Speaker 3: So yeah, welcome to the city.
Speaker 1: Hey, this is how important we think you are. I
Speaker 1: had a major, major artist called me yesterday and go, hey, man,
Speaker 1: what are you doing tomorrow? And I'm like, I got
Speaker 1: a podcast. What do you got? Knowing exactly what's coming,
Speaker 1: I just go, Dan, dude, you're good. No he wanted
Speaker 1: Dan to No he doesn't. Have you heard him?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really want to hurt him, right, he says,
Speaker 1: but you you trumped it.
Speaker 3: I hate that because now I feel guilty because it's.
Speaker 1: Not worth it. I was wondering, was the art we'll
Speaker 1: tell you. I'll tell you after.
Speaker 3: I hate people when I do that to people.
Speaker 1: But we had a great conversation.
Speaker 3: With I don't want to I don't even want to
Speaker 3: know who it is because I want to be like
Speaker 3: your listeners and be like I wish I knew. They
Speaker 3: don't even tell me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we will tell you, but we're not.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this if if it had been about
Speaker 2: three or four artists cancel on it again. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: so it wasn't one of the top I thought I
Speaker 2: would have understood because the last time you canceled on me,
Speaker 2: it was just like, hey, they can't go.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Nobody said that.
Speaker 3: Well, that doesn't mean And since then, I think you've
Speaker 3: had some sort of fake baby to prove it, Like
Speaker 3: you like made up a story. Yeah, like I have anything.
Speaker 1: Baby, airbing baby.
Speaker 3: There's a difference. And I've said this a few times
Speaker 3: and I don't even mind saying it again. Now this
Speaker 3: is not about you. So I give you a perfect
Speaker 3: example of what's okay and what's not in my mind,
Speaker 3: and it's only my opinion, but this town and there
Speaker 3: is a mix of the artist and the professional, and
Speaker 3: you need to if you're the artists, mostly be professional.
Speaker 3: But the thing about being a creative is you're a
Speaker 3: little off. That's why you've chose to create. And with that,
Speaker 3: occasionally things are off. There was an artist, her name
Speaker 3: rhymes with Pasha, and she had scheduled weeks out to
Speaker 3: come and do the podcast and the show. Now, I'm
Speaker 3: no better than anybody else. I probably schedule myself a
Speaker 3: little tighter than everybody else. But for us to move
Speaker 3: things around to get this artist in, it was kind
Speaker 3: of a big deal for us to move around. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, fine, we'll do it. Get a call the
Speaker 3: day of Hey again, we'll just still have a random name.
Speaker 3: Pasha can't come and I'm like, okay, cool. They're like,
Speaker 3: she's sick, and I'm like, absolutely, if you're sick, even
Speaker 3: if like you don't bring it, even if like your
Speaker 3: throat's a little bad or it's not going to be
Speaker 3: your best, don't worry about coming. Like I feel that completely.
Speaker 3: Problem is I have a friend at her record label.
Speaker 3: Let's call it Borner Brothers. We'll just call it random.
Speaker 1: Record, random names.
Speaker 3: And they were like, oh no, she wasn't sick. We
Speaker 3: heard her cancel, said she didn't want to do it.
Speaker 3: She was one of the cmas that night and she
Speaker 3: wouldn't feel like it. She'll never come on anything I
Speaker 3: ever do ever again. At least keep the lie consistent.
Speaker 1: For sure. You got to you gotta doutch your as,
Speaker 1: cross your team.
Speaker 3: There are things that happen in life where you you
Speaker 3: can't come. Yeah, And but Brian Kelly did that to
Speaker 3: me once too. Was like I hate Tyler Hubbard and
Speaker 3: he was like, I need to come on because he
Speaker 3: just talked to you and said all this stuff about
Speaker 3: uh me, And I was like, great, I'm not fans
Speaker 3: of either one of you. So I want to give
Speaker 3: you equal equal opportunity, and so I did, and there's.
Speaker 1: Some there's there's some conflict between between you and them, right.
Speaker 3: And you can ask all about all about that in
Speaker 3: a second.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. But I'm just yeah, but no,
Speaker 1: not really.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't care enough. So I was like great,
Speaker 3: and I was leaving town. I don't like either one
Speaker 3: of them. I stayed back and we set up and
Speaker 3: did a whole and he calls like the day of
Speaker 3: it, and I was like a dec I'm not going to
Speaker 3: do it. I'll wait and come do it when I
Speaker 3: get new music. And I'm like, dude, you should have
Speaker 3: said you had like a hernie or something, because like
Speaker 3: that's a professional. Like I just literally dedicated part of
Speaker 3: my day to this and I'm nothing. I'm nothing, but
Speaker 3: I am a person, like a human being that has
Speaker 3: time where I need to be doing things.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's valuable too, that's important.
Speaker 3: Yes, even if it's just to me. Sure, but we
Speaker 3: had set up. I don't like that. So either lie
Speaker 3: that something tragic has happened or you had a baby,
Speaker 3: or because life does happen. My radio show, the radio
Speaker 3: show part of it forever. And I got a little
Speaker 3: pushback in my first book because if anybody is one
Speaker 3: minute late, they go home immediately. They don't stay one
Speaker 3: minute late from the time that I say to be
Speaker 3: there because we have to get there a certain time
Speaker 3: before the show. Now it's not because I'm like, you
Speaker 3: must be on time for me, but if you don't
Speaker 3: have respect for everybody else that got there on time,
Speaker 3: like that, culture then starts to absolutely erode because you're like, well,
Speaker 3: this person didn't come in, this is on time, and
Speaker 3: I'm so nobody has been late on my show for
Speaker 3: ten years now.
Speaker 1: You remember when Dan was ten minutes late to your podcast.
Speaker 3: We're getting there now, listen, kids, sick, car wreck, all
Speaker 3: these things. That's life. Life happens. But when it's a
Speaker 3: Dan issue, where he just was like I decided to yeah,
Speaker 3: look at some true you get married. But anyway, I'm
Speaker 3: glad to be here, and thanks for not cancel on me.
Speaker 3: But I would have canceled on me. My point is
Speaker 3: I would have understood that one.
Speaker 1: I know, you probably know who's who's talking on the
Speaker 1: other side over there if you're just listening and not watching.
Speaker 3: Well, we didn't even know, I don't know, we're delete
Speaker 3: all that. I didn't know that was on. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: This is the future governor of Arkansas, Dancing with the
Speaker 1: Stars champion, two time Dog Dad, New York Times bestseller,
Speaker 1: two times host of the nationally syndicated award winning show
Speaker 1: The Bobby Bone Show, The Bobby Boone Show. We've got
Speaker 1: baby Bobby Bones in God's Country Day. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: about this. We've been on You've You've been kind enough
Speaker 1: to have us on on your podcast ty two times.
Speaker 1: I've had you on twice and everyone one and a
Speaker 1: half time, one and a half, one and three quarter.
Speaker 3: Maybe anyway, you know.
Speaker 2: What, maybe we should just have a moment of silence
Speaker 2: for the people that wrecked on sixty five.
Speaker 3: I wasn't even angry. I wasn't even angry.
Speaker 2: But this isn't about you, Bobby. This is about the
Speaker 2: wreck that happened and those people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, allegedly there's so many rats. Hey, we like to
Speaker 1: do a thing called, uh, what You're mad at? But
Speaker 1: it was like this. Normally it goes like this, Wait
Speaker 1: are we doing the normal?
Speaker 3: So I love it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just he loves the theme song. Here's the theme
Speaker 1: song ready and there you're good. Ray, what you're mad?
Speaker 1: Just tell us what it is. What you're mad at?
Speaker 1: Is it you in the Lost Kids might be a
Speaker 1: boss man or your neighbor's cat. Just tell us what
Speaker 1: you mad. But today it's bounds and grown, bones and grown.
Speaker 1: I like that better.
Speaker 5: Bones grown grown in that bone bones, grown, bones and
Speaker 5: grows pretty good.
Speaker 3: Both those are pretty good, thanks, ma'm you know what
Speaker 3: I'm always mad at is the fact that I have
Speaker 3: to have two different chargers for all my Apple products,
Speaker 3: as in, like when the phone switched, it switched from
Speaker 3: that flat one that had the very flat with the
Speaker 3: little white thing, and then it turned into now the
Speaker 3: one that goes into the computer. But the problem is
Speaker 3: my headphone still have that little flat So the fact
Speaker 3: that Apple won't have one universal charger is so stupid
Speaker 3: because I'm always searching for chargers. So I'm mad at
Speaker 3: that I guess phones.
Speaker 5: And bones and grooms and phones, groans and bones.
Speaker 3: I'm also mad that I, oh do I keep I
Speaker 3: have like eleven God I'm also mad that Arkansas only
Speaker 3: finished six and six this year. Football.
Speaker 1: If you can make it an ohms rhyme, I can
Speaker 1: make a song about it.
Speaker 3: Well, I have started to invest a significant amount of
Speaker 3: money into the NIL program myself, and then I get
Speaker 3: angrier when we lose. And it's this weird position of
Speaker 3: I got okay.
Speaker 1: Loans there you go and bone but.
Speaker 6: Never will be paid back loans and bones.
Speaker 1: Lost lost lost, lost, lost, lose, lose, lose all the time.
Speaker 1: So not make a bowl. That happened.
Speaker 3: We did a bowl. We had a bowl. It was
Speaker 3: a Liberty Bowl. Basically, you play in the backyard Memphis. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: were playing that whenever that hour.
Speaker 1: No, this year we played Texas Tech. Oh yeah, we
Speaker 1: beat them, but who cares like half a team?
Speaker 3: So my favorite thing in the whole world. And it
Speaker 3: doesn't mean it's Arkansas sport. No, So that that hurt.
Speaker 3: I'm mad at that. Yeah, than that all, I'm pretty good.
Speaker 1: I'm mad at that.
Speaker 2: The shampoo and conditioner and our shower is looks exactly
Speaker 2: the same. So every time I've been down, I pick
Speaker 2: it up because you gotta do shampoo first. It's condition
Speaker 2: It's always conditioner first. And I'm like, why wouldn't you
Speaker 2: just make the bottle a different color or maybe just
Speaker 2: put a dot on the top of it, Because every
Speaker 2: time like then I have to set it down, pick
Speaker 2: up the shampoo.
Speaker 1: Sharpie dot on the top of it. I need a
Speaker 1: gray I need a gray sharpie dot on top. Is
Speaker 1: that why you're looking Is that like, why you're looking
Speaker 1: like Warren Ziders today.
Speaker 2: I don't think because I talked about shampoo, I look
Speaker 2: like Warner.
Speaker 3: I like you. I think it was great you.
Speaker 2: I actually thought this was more about cutting it off
Speaker 2: Taylor Lawan.
Speaker 1: He looks cool. I'm mad. I'm mad at uh at
Speaker 1: teething babies. And here's why. I've got a video to
Speaker 1: prove it. I'll show it later and then we might
Speaker 1: post it. I guess if it's postable. Watching TV the
Speaker 1: other day, sitting like this on my couch. Oh, you're
Speaker 1: gonna tell this, and I gotta. I got a one
Speaker 1: and a half year old little boy. He's running around.
Speaker 1: I'm not really paying attention. He always runs up. I
Speaker 1: grabbed him, throw the bombs to see. He just needs
Speaker 1: even if we don't show it, he's got to see this.
Speaker 3: You're sitting in a provocative state, so.
Speaker 1: It's a provocative story throughout relaxed. My blue boy runs up,
Speaker 1: always does it. His head must have fallen perfect to
Speaker 1: where he fell on on me and I've never felt
Speaker 1: a pain like I felt in my life.
Speaker 3: He provocatively teethed, teethed.
Speaker 1: On a specific thing and I can't say thing like
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how, but there was there's marks,
Speaker 1: there's teeth marks, and and.
Speaker 3: Show he was trying to he was trying to breastfeed.
Speaker 1: But for that, check this out.
Speaker 3: I want to watch.
Speaker 1: Think you should be a rest you gotta do it,
Speaker 1: fell right in and you you threw him into the
Speaker 1: ceiling almost wow, jokers looking he didn't get thrown in
Speaker 1: the Christmas tree and you're in pajamas, so obviously there
Speaker 1: as a sweatpan, sweatpants real thin. Yeah. Yeah, So teeth
Speaker 1: and babies are not my favorite right now. But we're good.
Speaker 1: We're all good.
Speaker 3: Like all three of us. We have worse. People have
Speaker 3: worse problems.
Speaker 1: Oh totally. It's just a quick little I Sometimes they're dramatic,
Speaker 1: sometimes they're I mean, I guess my dad left me
Speaker 1: when I was five?
Speaker 3: Is that one?
Speaker 1: You mad at that? Yeah? What said?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: We also do another segment now, it's a new segment
Speaker 1: that we're coming coming up with today. The songs Amazing, two, three,
Speaker 1: four Drones and bones talking about drones in Nashville. Drones
Speaker 1: and bones flying over your house.
Speaker 3: At night, going to get arrested?
Speaker 1: All right, give us an update.
Speaker 2: Wait, let's talk about the first time a drone popped
Speaker 2: over your house? Were you like, man, I've been hearing
Speaker 2: about these things in New Jersey.
Speaker 3: Well that's why I even noticed. And I must tell
Speaker 3: you my wife is the first one to notice them.
Speaker 3: And she he's not conspiracy believe everything on TikTok person,
Speaker 3: Like I am same.
Speaker 1: I love a good conspiracy and I love TikTok. I
Speaker 1: kind of love a conspiracy. I love a ten hat
Speaker 1: little theory, dude. So she ever looked up all the
Speaker 1: conspiracies that turned out to be true? You've ever done that?
Speaker 1: That dig down that hole? There's a lot. I mean
Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of conspiracies though, Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 3: So well, it's like, I think that's a drone. I
Speaker 3: was like, that's an airplane. You're like, I know, so it's.
Speaker 1: That big, dude. They're huge. They well there they have
Speaker 1: to be ten feet long at least at least but
Speaker 1: ten feet yes, because they're up And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's not She goes, look, it's not moving. Now.
Speaker 3: Airplanes fly over our house all the time because I
Speaker 3: guess we're like a path loid to the airport. And
Speaker 3: so it was dusk plus dust, a little darker than dusk,
Speaker 3: but one flew a little low where I could actually
Speaker 3: see it, and it was a real It was a
Speaker 3: bigger than any drone I've ever seen. And we've probably
Speaker 3: all used a drones for creative reasons for whatever we're shooting. Uh,
Speaker 3: it wasn't that. And so I thought, what anyone would think,
Speaker 3: I need to figure out what legally I can do
Speaker 3: to this thing. And at first I grab the twelve.
Speaker 1: Games shoot it, That's what I'm talking about bone because it.
Speaker 3: Was just over the house and it was like, I
Speaker 3: don't want it over the house, I really know. But
Speaker 3: then I decided to Google what can you do if
Speaker 3: a drone's over your house? And they listed out Google did,
Speaker 3: thank god, and it was first, before you do anything,
Speaker 3: don't shoot it is basically what it said is said, hey,
Speaker 3: you idiot, don't shoot the drone.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh, they said, hey, I know you're from Arkansas and
Speaker 3: your first instinct to shoot anything, don't shoot the drone.
Speaker 1: You got a BURRETTA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because now it's AI. They know exactly who you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so did it give a reason why you
Speaker 1: couldn't shoot it because you don't you don't own the airspace.
Speaker 1: I know the reason.
Speaker 2: No, it's because of if it were to go down,
Speaker 2: it could they're so big.
Speaker 1: The thing I listened to.
Speaker 2: Which was some army guy that knows all this stuff,
Speaker 2: said that some of them are the size of SUVs,
Speaker 2: Like they're that big, the ones we're talking about. So
Speaker 2: you're literally dropping. You could down, could hit the highway,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you got people hitting it.
Speaker 2: Now you're involved in I never thought about that manslaughter.
Speaker 3: I'll shoot it down.
Speaker 1: Anyway, right, saying that had been my first thought to So.
Speaker 3: It was obviously that's f A a air space and
Speaker 3: you can't shoot into this space. And so I said,
Speaker 3: don't do that. You can put a sign on your
Speaker 3: yard that said no drone zone. What the crap is
Speaker 3: that going to do?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: Shoot, can't be.
Speaker 3: It's like it's flying over and it's like, no.
Speaker 1: Drone zone, Bobby Bones, no drones zone.
Speaker 3: As you can call the cops. What's a cop gonna do? Right,
Speaker 3: it's a drone flying over nothing.
Speaker 1: Nothing, ain't gonna give that. You're gonna arrest the drone.
Speaker 1: He's going to pull up and say.
Speaker 3: Can't reach your handcuffs?
Speaker 1: So what's uh, Travis Tripp law, He's.
Speaker 3: Exactly Yeah, that's exactly what I want to say. He's nuts.
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna talk about the drone and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna go. It says you can.
Speaker 3: Launch a counter counter drone.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm sitting right now. I'm in. Oh yeah, literally,
Speaker 1: it's on my Instagram. I pulled up and showed it.
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this, so you can launch a
Speaker 1: counter drone.
Speaker 3: Which is exactly what I'm doing drone battles. So I
Speaker 3: started looking up drones. Now, if you fly over five
Speaker 3: hundred feet I'm a bit educated in this. Accidentally, five
Speaker 3: or five hundred feet with a drone like a personal drone,
Speaker 3: it's against the law. But what's the difference in five
Speaker 3: hundred and five to eighty?
Speaker 1: Prove it? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I showed me the number.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, how hot is how hot? I mean, like
Speaker 2: I don't know, Okay, I was just wondering how hot.
Speaker 1: Okay, We'll think about this a lot polls thirty feet,
Speaker 1: so it's pretty that's up there.
Speaker 3: But if you even if I just go five hundred
Speaker 3: and six hundred, I can still kind of angle it
Speaker 3: up because the drune spot is very fast and it
Speaker 3: has the best camera inside of it.
Speaker 1: Maybe it with speed. Did you do it to fight
Speaker 1: this drunk?
Speaker 3: I did it to count I will not say that
Speaker 3: on record. I did it to counter strike this drone.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to go up with and and bring
Speaker 3: down counter intelligence of what exactly this is. Now. I've
Speaker 3: had many calls from different government entities commending I not
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 1: But legit. Yeah, that's yeah, that's I will. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: pretty cool.
Speaker 3: If I have any monk jobs, it'd be kind of cool.
Speaker 3: That's that's my first one. Trying to call your cell
Speaker 3: phone saving saving the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah they know your number. I think they know everybody's number.
Speaker 3: But if I go to jail saving the world, hey,
Speaker 3: so be it, no doubt you ever see Independence Day.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 1: Well, So they do they make drones. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know this. They make drone pre slat will
Speaker 1: Smith that you can attach like people get by them
Speaker 1: and use them for deep sea fishing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a net for mine, so.
Speaker 1: You can drop it out of the bottom of it.
Speaker 1: Does it shootout?
Speaker 3: It kind of holds it and then you're kind of like, oh, dude, again,
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can reach it. It's probably
Speaker 3: too big. But I got a net for it. And
Speaker 3: we saw one during the snow. It was snowing, and
Speaker 3: so I didn't feel really.
Speaker 1: Like, so this is still happening, dude.
Speaker 3: We haven't even gone a full counter strike yet.
Speaker 1: Like we're still in prept I.
Speaker 3: Just got to drone a week ago and then it snowed,
Speaker 3: and so yeah, I've been in prison yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, all you got to do is just all
Speaker 1: you gotta do is just mess up one like prop
Speaker 1: It feels like you got to you got to mess
Speaker 1: up one propeller and it's it's over. It's over of
Speaker 1: the drum of the drum. I think drop that ned
Speaker 1: into one of them. Just yeah, just came and contact
Speaker 1: with one of them.
Speaker 3: I'm just wanting to get it back. And one time
Speaker 3: I went to the mall and bought one of those
Speaker 3: little helicopters that flies, you know the guys like check
Speaker 3: it out a telicopter. Good floid entree in twelve seconds
Speaker 3: and then I never saw it again. So I'm really
Speaker 3: hoping that's not what happens with this drum.
Speaker 1: Reid flew ours into the fire. If you need another,
Speaker 1: if you need another drum to do like a flank,
Speaker 1: let me know. B I'm in I don't want to
Speaker 1: get you involved because I don't want to be the
Speaker 1: reason that one you miss a great right and then.
Speaker 3: To go to prison. Already check because for sure, if
Speaker 3: we're in prison, I'm holding somebody's pocket, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: All you have left is for the reason that we
Speaker 2: don't go to prison, because you already got us have
Speaker 2: a great ride.
Speaker 3: Well that's all right. Well I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 1: Guys. Hey, I think something that most people don't know
Speaker 1: about Bobby Bones is that I don't think people would
Speaker 1: look at you and think of.
Speaker 3: Your there because you almost mansault me. No, No, it's
Speaker 3: like a good thing.
Speaker 6: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not that's you're like, that's your that you that
Speaker 1: you have a history of the outdoors, that you're an
Speaker 1: outdoor guy.
Speaker 3: That you oh, fair enough, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Fair enough, but a word yeah or he was right now,
Speaker 3: I love it. I love Internet now.
Speaker 1: But now yeah, but you but you are explain explain
Speaker 1: Arkansas Keith.
Speaker 3: I was literally picking up my phone to call him
Speaker 3: right now to see if he answers. He's he's always
Speaker 3: in the woods.
Speaker 1: Love this.
Speaker 3: So Arkansas Keith is was my stebud. My mom died,
Speaker 3: but he they were married for a long time. They
Speaker 3: got married when I was like ten or eleven, and
Speaker 3: so that's all we did. And I didn't have a dad.
Speaker 3: I never had a dad growing up, so when you
Speaker 3: finally get like a step dad, you're like, what can
Speaker 3: we do to bond? So it was always in the
Speaker 3: woods or on the water, but not like skiing, like fishing.
Speaker 3: So we were And he's a stripper guide and so.
Speaker 1: Oh he's a striper.
Speaker 3: God. Yeah he doesn't stripper guide as much now, but yeah,
Speaker 3: a big part of his life stripper guide.
Speaker 1: That's what's the biggest stripper you've ever called?
Speaker 3: Well, my mom has like a fifty one pound that
Speaker 3: was mounted for a long time.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Stripers ended up with us being they were bigger, but
Speaker 3: oddly they weren't as much fun to catch. Where a hybrid,
Speaker 3: which striper white ass high listen to him go, well,
Speaker 3: hybrids were more fun because they would fight. They wouldn't
Speaker 3: get as big, but they would fight, and so those
Speaker 3: would be First of all, we go catch shad, which
Speaker 3: is the hardest thing to do because you take a net,
Speaker 3: you throw the net. Well, you guys know this. The
Speaker 3: net has to be exactly wide open, it goes down,
Speaker 3: you catch the shots. You got to catch the bait
Speaker 3: before you even get to fish. And here I am,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to draw the boat. I mean I dumped
Speaker 3: him out so many times.
Speaker 1: Really, Oh yeah, of course I like because he's on
Speaker 1: the front boat and he's like, go left. I don't know.
Speaker 1: And so we almost watched one of those nets kill
Speaker 1: a guy. When drown a guy in a creek. One
Speaker 1: time it went over the top of him and he's
Speaker 1: still he was wearing it around his neck, trying to
Speaker 1: cross weight weighted obviously.
Speaker 3: Weights around the bottom bro at least for us at
Speaker 3: the time, little weights on the on the edges to
Speaker 3: take it down.
Speaker 1: He still thinks, he still will to this day say
Speaker 1: that he wasn't gonna drown. He was gone, dude, I
Speaker 1: saved his life. Was he gonna drive, Yes, well he
Speaker 1: was drowning. He was. He definitely threw some water up.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna okay, I'm gonna try to call Arkansas Keith
Speaker 3: right now. But if I were to show you like
Speaker 3: the pictures he shows me like he sent me this
Speaker 3: is yesterday, Canada.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, it's the time.
Speaker 3: It's all dead animals.
Speaker 1: Hold on Arkansas too. That's kind of like that's the spot.
Speaker 3: Some like he duck hunts a lot now, duck hunting
Speaker 3: safe answers.
Speaker 1: You know my middle name is Keith.
Speaker 3: That's cool story.
Speaker 1: You can I waption the rights on that for like
Speaker 1: a Disney movie.
Speaker 3: You're gonna answer. But if he calls back off, Hey, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm on a podcast right now that's called what What.
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 3: Can you hear me? Yeah? I guess okay, I'm on
Speaker 3: a podcast right now called God's Country. And we were
Speaker 3: talking about hunting and fishing and how you know, I
Speaker 3: had my decade of it with you, and like, what
Speaker 3: what's your what do you think we did the most?
Speaker 3: What kind of hunting did we do the most? Probably deer, honey,
Speaker 3: I'm probably still hunting right I just go sit in
Speaker 3: the cold and freeze my balls on well mostly yeah,
Speaker 3: And then they had asked, I.
Speaker 1: Want to know the biggest stripper he's ever cat what.
Speaker 3: What's the biggest stripper you've ever caught?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: How long was it?
Speaker 3: How long was it? And how long was it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Thirty eight inches? Man? That's fun.
Speaker 3: Were you were you in the woods this morning? I was, yes,
Speaker 3: what were you doing?
Speaker 1: I went duck hunting this morning? But they fly? Are
Speaker 1: they flying? They they own you? It was awesome last week.
Speaker 7: But they just left after all this bad weather.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know when I talked hunting and fishing, I
Speaker 3: just go, let me call Arkansas Keith. That's that's about
Speaker 3: all I got, right, Yeah, has he killed?
Speaker 1: Have you killed a big deer lately?
Speaker 3: Have you killed any big deer lately?
Speaker 1: I have not. Did the duck hunting last week?
Speaker 5: Man, you could not believe what it was like.
Speaker 7: I'll sing five four or five hundred one day and then.
Speaker 1: The next day and then there's nothing. So I guess
Speaker 1: the cold where that pushed them on out? But when
Speaker 1: the co weather comes they go? Do they go north
Speaker 1: or south?
Speaker 3: When the you know where? You know where they moved to.
Speaker 3: And when it gets cold.
Speaker 4: And everything's froze up here, the nimrod w it's froze.
Speaker 1: And a lot of a lot of places. So they
Speaker 1: moved down south.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, all right, Uh that's all. I just wanted
Speaker 3: to get you on and and say hello and let
Speaker 3: these guys hear you.
Speaker 5: Good, hear from me.
Speaker 1: All right, I have to meet your Arkansas Keith.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I talk to you.
Speaker 1: Say so.
Speaker 3: I used to duck hunt a lot, a medium amount.
Speaker 3: I can give you a great duck hunting story that
Speaker 3: personifies my career as a duck hunter. By the way,
Speaker 3: the most action, right, wasn't my favorite thing to hunt
Speaker 3: because I just argue that I shot it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: every time.
Speaker 1: I think most duck hunters do, just like it's mine,
Speaker 1: it's mine.
Speaker 3: We had rate duck.
Speaker 1: Dogs though, that's another level of fun.
Speaker 3: Because because Arkansas he's a train them. Yeah, we had
Speaker 3: great bird dogs, like he trained the crap out of them.
Speaker 3: So if we were going to go, mostly it was quail.
Speaker 3: We did a lot of quail hunting. So with duck hunting,
Speaker 3: it's you sit, you hear them. Everybody shoots. Yeah, some stuff.
Speaker 1: Falls, you claim it's yours, and dog goes and gets
Speaker 1: and brings it back.
Speaker 3: Right, That was me. I tended to what I was
Speaker 3: known for was falling in the water and the waiters
Speaker 3: on and water going into the waiter and then me
Speaker 3: just sitting in the truck freezing death taking them off
Speaker 3: of mine to wear. Like that's kind of a thing
Speaker 3: that's kind of known for that. So I don't like
Speaker 3: getting wet.
Speaker 1: Especially well, nobody likes getting wet, especially in January.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like taking a shower now, but yeah, no,
Speaker 3: it was I did a duck hunting the most active
Speaker 3: still killed a bunch of deer, but I hated still hunting.
Speaker 3: I had much rather hunt with dogs because at least
Speaker 3: you're going, you're trying to hear the direction they're going
Speaker 3: and get out ahead of them. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you guys have deer dog hunted a lot, been around it,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's the best because you're literally you're
Speaker 3: in the truck you're just saying, or on foot you're listening.
Speaker 3: You know, you're just trying to get ahead of where
Speaker 3: they're running the deer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we rabbit. Rabbit hunting was like our first
Speaker 1: introduction to hunting, and it's kind of the same thing, right,
Speaker 1: Like you're just listening to the dogs, trying to because
Speaker 1: that rabbit is gonna be out in front, and but
Speaker 1: you're still like, it's active. It's it's you're, you're, you're,
Speaker 1: you're moving, you're, you're hearing them. It's it's not just
Speaker 1: sitting in a true.
Speaker 2: A lot of states of outlawed running deer with dogs
Speaker 2: now because it's so hard to keep them, like, because
Speaker 2: the ground is split up so much, it's hard to
Speaker 2: keep them on one track. So a lot of that
Speaker 2: dog and a lot of that deer dog and stuff
Speaker 2: is our dad did a lot of deer dog deer hunting,
Speaker 2: shot everything.
Speaker 1: No idea what's legal and what's not anymore. I hunt drones.
Speaker 3: I don't even know, dude, you do hunt drones drones?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: My first come was a four ten and so but
Speaker 3: where I come from, you just get a four ten
Speaker 3: at age ten, and it's like go okay going. I
Speaker 3: mean yeah, kids like all right, we'll go out and shoot.
Speaker 3: Once we shot some cans and he's like you're free
Speaker 3: to go. So I just go scorel hunting. I have
Speaker 3: school every day, asked dude. I was like, ten, I
Speaker 3: know it's wild to think back. I'm out with a shotgun.
Speaker 3: Ten Yeah, with my four ten, which, by the way,
Speaker 3: is a shotgun. And oh you can say it's a
Speaker 3: small gun.
Speaker 1: Whatever, dude, blow your head off.
Speaker 3: And I'm just it, just moseying around shooting a crap.
Speaker 1: So you're right.
Speaker 3: I don't think people think of me as that. I'm
Speaker 3: really not that anymore. Love good wi Fi God, I
Speaker 3: love it and I don't like being cold, So not
Speaker 3: really the thing. But could I talk it? And did
Speaker 3: I live enough of it for over a decade? Oh
Speaker 3: for sure? And especially on the water too, like fishing.
Speaker 3: I worked at a marine as well, Like I go,
Speaker 3: what do you get me to fix?
Speaker 2: We Shaul, I got an example of how to not
Speaker 2: talk it. I actually send him in our text. Have
Speaker 2: you seen this? This is uh, this is Zuckerberg on Rogan.
Speaker 3: Oh I watched that.
Speaker 2: Oh please, this is Let me just let me just
Speaker 2: preface this. Hey, listen, we can sniff a non hunting
Speaker 2: human out in like three seconds.
Speaker 1: Non hunting human.
Speaker 3: No, because I don't hunt now. No, But do you believe.
Speaker 2: Well, no, we're talking already said things that that justify
Speaker 2: you forever as being someone who knows what the outdoors is.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not lying about what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: No, I would be able to tell if you were.
Speaker 1: I mean you In country music, there is a portion
Speaker 1: of people that will lie just to just to be
Speaker 1: able to to personify that they are what they say.
Speaker 3: People that are like my hero is Merle Haggard and
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, here's four pictures, which one is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What's your favorite song? Yeah? This is directional Mike
Speaker 1: put in the front.
Speaker 2: This is Zuckerberg lying about being a bow hunter, which
Speaker 2: is so easy.
Speaker 1: Did you say on Rogan?
Speaker 4: Well, my favorite is bo and that's I think like
Speaker 4: the most that feels like the most kind of sporting
Speaker 4: version of it. Yeah, if you want to put it
Speaker 4: that way and you just kind of go and hang out, and.
Speaker 1: Especially if you're mountain hunting, and then actually carry that out.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like to make an objection about that.
Speaker 3: I don't know a single bow hunter and I lightly
Speaker 3: bow hunted. Yeah, they would call it bow and arrow. No,
Speaker 3: not once did any of my bow hunting friends.
Speaker 1: You know, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's that's a clear indicator that you do not know
Speaker 2: what you're talking.
Speaker 1: That's a red flag when somebody's like, you know, what
Speaker 1: my favorite is bow and arrow.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, okay, let miss, but if you did
Speaker 2: have a bow and arrow, you would know who makes it.
Speaker 1: You have to know. Yeah, this is embarrassing. This is embarrassing.
Speaker 1: You know how old it is? No, it's it's not old.
Speaker 4: Okay, I think it's It's like a did you get
Speaker 4: someone to coach you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, tried.
Speaker 3: It's basically a bunch of the guys.
Speaker 1: A bunch of the guys coached him. The music is great,
Speaker 1: is line? Dude? That is a straight up outdoor ben
Speaker 1: like once somebody bought it at a range. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: shot it one time, put it up in his closet,
Speaker 1: and it's probably a recurve. I just wouldn't go on.
Speaker 2: Like the biggest podcast in the world and continue to
Speaker 2: shovel you know what I'm saying. A hole into the
Speaker 2: will probably get banned.
Speaker 1: From vas as they said.
Speaker 3: And I knew he's full of crab. Yeah, even you,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm And I'm not a bow hunter and
Speaker 3: even I knew that. But I grew up with a
Speaker 3: bunch of bow hunters.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I saw you on on bear Grills. How
Speaker 1: how was that whole experience? It's awesome? So did you
Speaker 1: do this? Sorry? Did you do like? Was it?
Speaker 7: Was it?
Speaker 1: The shows that like you're lost and you're trying to
Speaker 1: find your way to an excavation point or extract extraction
Speaker 1: point in my.
Speaker 3: Best Well, we weren't. We didn't have a tractor like digging
Speaker 3: holes or anything.
Speaker 1: I got. I got a two year old that loves diggers,
Speaker 1: and I've been watching a lot of Stinky and Dirty,
Speaker 1: so I went on.
Speaker 3: So I'm one of the only two people that's done
Speaker 3: it twice, and the other person exactly like me, the
Speaker 3: guy did magic, Mike chan chany Tato.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're the only two that's done it twice, mostly
Speaker 3: because our as.
Speaker 1: It's only hot guys. Yeah, you get to do it twice.
Speaker 3: I went to Norway the first time, and you don't
Speaker 3: meet Bear until you're out with Behar and so I
Speaker 3: as soon as I got off the plane, they were
Speaker 3: like ready to go, and we drove right out and
Speaker 3: they gave me the clothes. Switching to him, They're like,
Speaker 3: you'll be back in forty eight hours. I don't really
Speaker 3: know what was gonna happen. Wow, And they do take
Speaker 3: you and leave you. But the thing is Bear then
Speaker 3: shows up in some dramatic fashion and you're with them
Speaker 3: for two days. Now, we had to travel so many
Speaker 3: miles to get to a point. Yeah, so you get
Speaker 3: to that point like there's never a threat of you're
Speaker 3: gonna die, because what he told me was to bring
Speaker 3: celebrities on that show. And I don't count myself. I
Speaker 3: was probably the least famous person in the history of
Speaker 3: that show because they have real celebrities.
Speaker 1: You're a celebrity.
Speaker 3: I am moderately known in rural areas, but thank you,
Speaker 3: Dance with a Start again. Least famous person ever. But
Speaker 3: they wouldn't get to have like Courtney Cox or Roger
Speaker 3: Federer or whomever. If there was a legitimate chance you
Speaker 3: wouldopt sure. Yeah, but they do make it harder for
Speaker 3: some people. And so we land in Norway.
Speaker 1: It's called less important people. They're like, oh for sure.
Speaker 3: They're like, well, I don't care as much as.
Speaker 1: They die, just a just a tad bit. Yeah for sure,
Speaker 1: he breaks his leg, it's fine.
Speaker 3: We had to like truck across like thirty miles of
Speaker 3: Norway of like fjords and down.
Speaker 1: And thirty miles whatever. It was.
Speaker 3: It was a lot. It was a lot, and it
Speaker 3: was really hard. Some of it looked sketchy and I
Speaker 3: had to go down, like I was really scared. I
Speaker 3: don't like heights. They really push you. It took two days.
Speaker 3: You do sleep out in the wilderness. That sucked. You're wet,
Speaker 3: Like that's there. Aren't all those fake bells and whistles
Speaker 3: on that show that you think there might be, because
Speaker 3: it just is uncomfortable the whole time. The great thing
Speaker 3: is Bear is awesome. It could not be a kinder guy.
Speaker 3: So he finished the first episode and I'm on standing
Speaker 3: on like the side of a helicopter, buckled and it's
Speaker 3: like flying on crazy and I'm thinking, I don't even
Speaker 3: like adventure. I don't want don't want no adventure. I've
Speaker 3: had enough adventure in my life.
Speaker 1: Literally on the show. On one of the shows, he's
Speaker 1: they're interviewing and he's like, I'm scared. I'm like he
Speaker 1: quoted it said, I'm the biggest weenie baby in the world.
Speaker 3: Don't want it. Been in the woods my whole life.
Speaker 3: That's okay. So we do it, and it was one
Speaker 3: of the higher rated episodes into the network that are like, well,
Speaker 3: here's our least famous guy getting some of the most
Speaker 3: some of the highest ratings, like what are we missing?
Speaker 3: And it turns out I have a big audience. And
Speaker 3: also Hollywood doesn't understand the power of country music or
Speaker 3: the power of people that aren't on a coast. You know,
Speaker 3: there's this very much if you're not in New York
Speaker 3: or LA, you kind of don't matter. And I think
Speaker 3: I was able to prove, well, that's not true, like
Speaker 3: you're ignoring. I mean, look at what's happened politically. It's
Speaker 3: just a bunch of people that have never got to
Speaker 3: have a voice that are like screaming, somebody's listening to me,
Speaker 3: and you're people and people that live in these really
Speaker 3: blue states are going how does this happen? And people
Speaker 3: like myself who grew up in a red state, like, oh,
Speaker 3: I can tell you exactly why it is. How people
Speaker 3: have felt like they don't have never had a voice,
Speaker 3: they don't matter, and yeah, that they don't matter. And
Speaker 3: here's somebody, true or not that says they're listening to them,
Speaker 3: and nothing else has worked in the history of their
Speaker 3: life to make them feel like they matter, So why
Speaker 3: not take a flyer on something?
Speaker 1: And so that's so.
Speaker 3: That's like the culture all the way through politically now
Speaker 3: even in media, and so the show does really well
Speaker 3: as an episode. Now Geo comes and goes, we want
Speaker 3: to give you a show, and I'm like, cool, let's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you investigate some resorts or something. Let's go do something.
Speaker 3: And it ended up being Breaking Bobby Bones, which is
Speaker 3: a show that where they tried to kill me over
Speaker 3: and over again. But before that show, they were like,
Speaker 3: would you like to come on Beary Girls again? I
Speaker 3: said no, thank you. I said, well, I've already said
Speaker 3: my story, like I went on, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I like, I feel like my purpose at some point,
Speaker 3: which I think I'm doing it already, but at some
Speaker 3: point is to focus primarily on, in a very selfish way,
Speaker 3: helping people they grew up like I did.
Speaker 1: Food insecurity.
Speaker 3: I think, if you don't have food, nothing else matters,
Speaker 3: Like how do you go to school and learn? How
Speaker 3: do you have.
Speaker 1: Goals bigger than what you can see.
Speaker 3: At arm's lengths, like if you don't even have food
Speaker 3: to eat right, like it's fundamental. And so there are
Speaker 3: a few things I'm very passionate about, and one of
Speaker 3: them is food insecurity, then education, and so I think
Speaker 3: if I have to run for office, and I don't
Speaker 3: want to, but if I ever feel like I have to,
Speaker 3: I have like three things I care about. I have
Speaker 3: a lot of things I kind of care about, but
Speaker 3: I'm very selfish that I know what affected me, and eating,
Speaker 3: the most basic thing is something I care about greatly
Speaker 3: because I didn't get to have three meals a day
Speaker 3: every day. And this is not even for sympathy, it's
Speaker 3: just great.
Speaker 2: But it's I think you're already because I'm that I'm
Speaker 2: that demographic right, Not that didn't eat, I've always eaten,
Speaker 2: but I'm and I'm from the South, and I know
Speaker 2: of places like you're talking about, and that immediately hits me,
Speaker 2: which goes back to your point of why I assume
Speaker 2: the episode connected is because there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: in the country that feel like that.
Speaker 3: That don't have a voice, that dren't even that aren't
Speaker 3: hurt at all at all. It's not even that people
Speaker 3: can hear a voice and ignore it. It doesn't even
Speaker 3: get to the people and for them. This is how
Speaker 3: I feel about politicians in general. Most politicians are people
Speaker 3: that grew up rich. That's why they get to be politicians,
Speaker 3: because they have the money to not work and to
Speaker 3: just go run for office. That's ninety five percent of politicians,
Speaker 3: so they don't know what it's like to have to struggle.
Speaker 3: And so I do my story on the show. Mom
Speaker 3: died drug overdose in her forties, never had a dad
Speaker 3: ABCD right, and it happens, and I tell them I
Speaker 3: have no more story, like what do you mean to do?
Speaker 3: Just gohead and be scared again? No, thank you, It sucked.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be scared good. I was cold,
Speaker 3: I was wet.
Speaker 1: They pay you like three thousand dollars nothing, No, that
Speaker 1: wasn't about po And now I made a bunch of
Speaker 1: money and dancing with the stars but different because you're
Speaker 1: competing for something.
Speaker 3: But now that was never about money. That was like,
Speaker 3: we've chosen you and we only let famous people will
Speaker 3: do it. And they all said they couldn't show up
Speaker 3: on this date, so we now choose you. And so
Speaker 3: they say, well you come back the second time, and
Speaker 3: I said my first answer was no, because I.
Speaker 1: Was probably no thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure it was yeah, no,
Speaker 3: no thank you, kind mammer, sir, I said, don't have
Speaker 3: a story to tell, and they said, okay, let us
Speaker 3: make another offer, you know, next week whatever, and just
Speaker 3: know we've never asked anybody to do it twice except
Speaker 3: for Channing Tatum. And now I was like, well, that
Speaker 3: is interesting to me. They would ask me to do
Speaker 3: it twice and that's not a thing where they constantly
Speaker 3: bring people back. But I'm like, I have nothing to
Speaker 3: say that that. I felt like I wouldn't be repeating myself,
Speaker 3: Like because they want sure you, they want real you,
Speaker 3: what do you care about? And so they came back
Speaker 3: and they were like, and my wife and I were
Speaker 3: engaged at the time, and they were like, what if
Speaker 3: we've never had a couple on the show? What if
Speaker 3: you and your fiance did it? And I was like,
Speaker 3: she would never agree to do that. She doesn't really
Speaker 3: be public at all. The last thing that she would
Speaker 3: ever want to do is be on television. And she
Speaker 3: had been in therapy that day and the therapist was
Speaker 3: having a talk with her because we had a stalker.
Speaker 3: For a long time, she had a stalker. I've had
Speaker 3: a few, she had a stalker that was it got
Speaker 3: really bad. FBI involved, It's really bad and unsafe, right,
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 1: She had been to.
Speaker 3: Her therapist and her therapist was like, you know what,
Speaker 3: you're experiencing so much of the bad stuff that comes
Speaker 3: with his job. Why don't you experience some of the
Speaker 3: good stuff too instead of just And I caught her
Speaker 3: on a day yeh, and she was like, my therapist
Speaker 3: challenged me to do things that make me feel unomfortable,
Speaker 3: and she agreed to do it, and I could not
Speaker 3: believe it. So I committed and we went and did
Speaker 3: it a second time the next season, I think it's
Speaker 3: episode five and six, and we did it again, and
Speaker 3: that was better. I had a different story to tell
Speaker 3: because I'd commitment. I was more scared of commendment than heights,
Speaker 3: and I'm so scared of heights, and so that was that.
Speaker 3: And she she's an athlete, and she crushed it and
Speaker 3: made me look stupid. But we did the show twice.
Speaker 3: Bears amazing. It is really hard. It is what it
Speaker 3: looks like. I didn't want to do it a second time,
Speaker 3: but I did, and I you know, us doing it
Speaker 3: together was really fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The outdoors has a way, and especially in that
Speaker 1: kind of environment, in that setting, it has a way
Speaker 1: to help you overcome whatever obstacle you're facing in life,
Speaker 1: Like like for instance, you know whatever she was going
Speaker 1: through to get out there and get out of your
Speaker 1: comfort zone and do something like that and scale down
Speaker 1: a rock face that you know that if you fall,
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna really hurt yourself or die. Ye to
Speaker 1: overcome some of that stuff, it lets you know that
Speaker 1: you can. You know, you're all right, You're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to overcome whatever it is in front
Speaker 1: of you. Stalgger situation is pretty nuts. You good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sucks for me, And again I don't want
Speaker 3: to hog. I'm sure you guys have stuff you actually
Speaker 3: want to talk about. Because we're talking about I'll quickly
Speaker 3: hog everything.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, this is this is the okay.
Speaker 3: So for me, I didn't get married till I was
Speaker 3: like thirty eight, and I never really was in a
Speaker 3: serious relationship before my wife. I kind of ran from
Speaker 3: them and I would always blame it on I'm investing
Speaker 3: in work because I don't want to be an impoverished
Speaker 3: kid again. And some of that was true, but some
Speaker 3: of that was I never really had relationships, even family relationships,
Speaker 3: like no one ever said they loved and my mom
Speaker 3: was an addict and again cared about her deeply but
Speaker 3: when you're an addict, it's hard to exist and be there.
Speaker 3: The one time that I really felt empathy for her,
Speaker 3: because I did feel sympathy a lot. Empathy was has
Speaker 3: to do with a stalker situation, but not the one.
Speaker 3: I got jumped outside of work once going into the
Speaker 3: building in Nashville. No, in Texas.
Speaker 1: I'd already had one instance when I was an Arkansas
Speaker 1: where I got pistol whipped going to a radio event
Speaker 1: at an ATM got pistol whipped.
Speaker 3: It's the whole thing. It was really scary, gun held
Speaker 3: in my head. I got jumped going into work in Austin,
Speaker 3: and it obviously really messed with my head where I
Speaker 3: couldn't close my eyes without somebody coming up behind me.
Speaker 3: I had a bunch of death threats, still get them occasionally.
Speaker 1: Now, why were they? Why are they so mad at you?
Speaker 1: I don't really It's a numbers game. It literally is
Speaker 1: a numbers game. Mean, just so many people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just imagine you're standing on the floor here
Speaker 3: and everybody they can see you standing on the floor,
Speaker 3: you know, just people right here, and then as it lifts,
Speaker 3: imagine all the people that can see you the floor
Speaker 3: just lifted for me, and so I have a lot
Speaker 3: of people watching, you know whoever, And so I.
Speaker 2: Still don't understand what that would make somebody want to
Speaker 2: kill you.
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, people are crazy.
Speaker 3: It's mostly just ten people to one want to kill me. Nah,
Speaker 3: ten thousand people, maybe a million. There's usually one in
Speaker 3: there that's just crazy enough. They can't have you, nobody will.
Speaker 1: They can't stand yeah, it can't stand everything like that.
Speaker 3: So I've had all these stalker situations or these instances,
Speaker 3: and I couldn't sleep, and so I started to go
Speaker 3: to my doctor. And I'm terrified of not medicine, but
Speaker 3: I'm terrified of being addicted to something because of what's
Speaker 3: in my family.
Speaker 1: You've seen it again.
Speaker 3: Mom's an attict hard stuff too, like meth. And she
Speaker 3: had me at sixteen, so it wasn't like she like
Speaker 3: she never had a chance.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 3: So it's not even like I'm angry. It's like you
Speaker 3: have somebody a kid at sixteen and you're already poor, sure,
Speaker 3: like you're looking for ways to feel. So the one
Speaker 3: time I had empathy was i'd gone through three or
Speaker 3: four phases of trying different things to sleep because I
Speaker 3: was sick all the time because I couldn't sleep, and
Speaker 3: my doctor was like, we can always try sleeping pills,
Speaker 3: and I was so scared of them, but I took them.
Speaker 3: But then I remember I wouldn't like remember nights and
Speaker 3: stuff like at all, Like I would drive off with
Speaker 3: the gas thing in the car, just the crazy things
Speaker 3: because of those sleeping pills. Like my real fear was
Speaker 3: like flying on an airplane and like somebody wakes me
Speaker 3: up and I'm like beating off on the airplane and
Speaker 3: like go to jail because I was on a sleeping pill.
Speaker 3: Didn't know it. Like that's the kind of stuff that
Speaker 3: I was white Like I seriously was like I can't,
Speaker 3: I can't do this, And so I got off sleeping pills.
Speaker 3: But I went through it was it was so hard,
Speaker 3: like I my vision was bad. I was sweating for
Speaker 3: like five days. I felt like I couldn't walk.
Speaker 1: Trying to come off of them with it ambient or something.
Speaker 3: It was something called it was a version of that.
Speaker 1: Okay, because I know some thought I had some roommates
Speaker 1: that would well for me. You can't this happening.
Speaker 3: It was coming off of it because I depended on
Speaker 3: it because I took it for a year and I
Speaker 3: was like, I can't do this anymore. But once I
Speaker 3: was going through with drawers, they were so bad. They
Speaker 3: hurt me so bad that I wrote about this in
Speaker 3: my my first book. It was the first time that
Speaker 3: I ever slightly understood my mom and when she would
Speaker 3: try to quit, how hard, dude. All I took was
Speaker 3: sleeping pills.
Speaker 1: And it was imagine if you're doing math or you're
Speaker 1: doing and you're quitting, yeah, And it's easy to be
Speaker 1: on the outside of that and look at somebody that's
Speaker 1: going through that and be like, well, just you know, they.
Speaker 3: Gets exactly it.
Speaker 1: I just stopped put it in rehab and you can't
Speaker 1: understand what they're going through.
Speaker 3: And you can't lock somebody in rehab yet, right And
Speaker 3: she would leave and I'd be mad. So had a
Speaker 3: lot of that relationship. But that's that's the time that
Speaker 3: I had empathy there. But that all comes from me
Speaker 3: being jumped and having these stalker situations. My wife moves
Speaker 3: to town. Now I got to grow with we'll call
Speaker 3: it fame. I do not think there are actual famous people.
Speaker 3: I think again, I think I'm modeling on in places. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can tour and sell out two thousand seats in
Speaker 3: a theater doing stand up. That's pretty good, but it
Speaker 3: ain't are on a grande. I got to grow with
Speaker 3: my fame. Pardon the term. It's going to keep using
Speaker 3: it to make sure. I got to grow with it.
Speaker 3: So when I go to dinner and someone records me
Speaker 3: eating dinner, I don't even notice it anymore. My wife
Speaker 3: did not get to grow. It would be like having
Speaker 3: a baby and all of a sudden you get it
Speaker 3: at six. Well, you didn't get to grow and grow
Speaker 3: as a parent. As the baby grows, you're thrust into
Speaker 3: She's thrust into it. And again it ain't bieber, but
Speaker 3: it is weird.
Speaker 1: And so we go out.
Speaker 3: People record this. We go and I don't mind. It's
Speaker 3: someone's like I can't get a picture, But it's the
Speaker 3: people that like won't ask, but just want to record,
Speaker 3: like secretly. And for her it made her really uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I can imagine.
Speaker 3: And I didn't under at first. I was like, it's
Speaker 3: not a big deal, but I didn't give her the
Speaker 3: grace to I didn't have the understanding. Now could you
Speaker 3: didn't do.
Speaker 1: You agree with you? And she was thrust into it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand that.
Speaker 3: And so she ended up getting this really aggressive, crazy
Speaker 3: stalker that that would that would appear she purpose, that
Speaker 3: would leak personal information on the internet that we did,
Speaker 3: that would come after her.
Speaker 1: And here she is and I feel like, leaked things
Speaker 1: that only you should know. Yes, how did this person
Speaker 1: get into access?
Speaker 3: That's good after the podcast story, but the FBI got involved,
Speaker 3: and so.
Speaker 1: It was really unsafe.
Speaker 3: Feeling for her, and she wanted and she already wanted
Speaker 3: nothing to do with being a public figure. That's not
Speaker 3: her thing at all.
Speaker 1: Do you feel guilty about terrible? I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: I felt so bad that I would kind of blame
Speaker 3: her because I'm a child, and I would be like,
Speaker 3: come on, I can't believe. But I felt it was
Speaker 3: all because I felt so guilty that I put her
Speaker 3: in this situation. Sure, so we have had that, but
Speaker 3: for her to go to therapy and then do the
Speaker 3: TV show which loops all the way back around. I
Speaker 3: was so happy that she did it, and she's in
Speaker 3: a pretty good place now. But she some of the
Speaker 3: stuff that she quote signed up for, she didn't actually
Speaker 3: sign up for. You kind of didn't know it was
Speaker 3: part of the gig, and it's not always part of
Speaker 3: the gig, but she's a beast.
Speaker 1: Did they ever get into just a talk? Touch on
Speaker 1: that one more time, and if we don't need to
Speaker 1: go anywhere you want, did they did they ever get
Speaker 1: in with y'all? Like? What about the stalker situation? Like
Speaker 1: into the psaki of the stalker? And why sure we
Speaker 1: end up finding who it was exactly?
Speaker 2: Did he look like those guys or she or whatever
Speaker 2: it was looked like like movie stalkers or was it
Speaker 2: just a regular normal dude? Like did he when you
Speaker 2: saw him? Were you like, oh, that guy looks like
Speaker 2: a stalker or were you like, oh, it's just.
Speaker 3: You know, what's so funny? And I do the same thing.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a he because I did the same thing
Speaker 3: with like you did.
Speaker 1: So with with it being a female, was there what
Speaker 1: did they tell you? It's a jealousy aspect of it.
Speaker 3: We didn't know at first, So we are to forensics.
Speaker 3: Uh did I probably spend eighty grand on detectives?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you change you could possibly do to alleviate
Speaker 2: situation because you kind of feel.
Speaker 3: Good for it, and luckily we have the resources to
Speaker 3: do that. Right, Yeah, we had to go and had
Speaker 3: to go to the Department of Justice, getsupoena to go.
Speaker 3: It was wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 3: It sucked.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: My wife is a champ and that's tough. And I'm
Speaker 3: glad she did that show and you can watch it
Speaker 3: and she kills the show. She's such a better athlete
Speaker 3: than I am, and I like consider myself to be
Speaker 3: a decent anem.
Speaker 1: We're pretty good.
Speaker 3: I think you're athletic. Yeah I am.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Yeah, if you can dance, which.
Speaker 3: I can't dance, but I can work. Yeah, I was
Speaker 3: a bad dancer. I won that show.
Speaker 1: If you can dance, your like athletes can dance those most.
Speaker 3: Pros are freaking professional athletes. Like I've been around a
Speaker 3: lot of professional athletes, those pro dancers on the show.
Speaker 3: Professional athlete, Yeah, no doubt about it. Until you see
Speaker 3: it in person, you don't. You don't even know, Like
Speaker 3: it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Pro athletes are crazy too. Let's talk about that for
Speaker 1: a second. Like catch it, catch it, like playing catch
Speaker 1: with a professional pitcher or throwing football with the NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2: Different till you different until you do that. If you
Speaker 2: kind of can't understand how.
Speaker 1: Far removed you are from.
Speaker 2: It, dude, even as an athlete, like sure, yes, we
Speaker 2: were a million miles from Yeah, professional bottle of the
Speaker 2: some NFL guy like a million.
Speaker 3: One of my best friends is he was a former
Speaker 3: number one tennis player, won a Grand Slam, Andy Roddick,
Speaker 3: like one of the last, maybe the last American tennis
Speaker 3: player to win a major. It was at my wedding
Speaker 3: or right, like, he's one of my best friends. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I would go and train with him, and I
Speaker 3: remember the first time I trained with him, I was like,
Speaker 3: I think that was exhausting. It was the forty minute
Speaker 3: warm up, Like it's the work that goes in.
Speaker 2: And he doesn't necessarily look like this mega athlete.
Speaker 3: In real life.
Speaker 1: He in real life as.
Speaker 3: A monster and he's six two sixty three broad shoulders.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking the guy his hand eye coordination, she said,
Speaker 3: Andy Roddy. Yeah, but even then on TV you would
Speaker 3: his hand eye coordination is wild. I do a podcast now,
Speaker 3: it's called Lots to Say with Matt Castle. The NFL
Speaker 3: hired me to do this show. Before I came here,
Speaker 3: I was on NFL Network doing stuff which is crazy,
Speaker 3: which are crazy that I'm like an your sports guy,
Speaker 3: I'm an expert. Yeah, I don't know crap. But even
Speaker 3: Matt Castle, who is my partner in this six '
Speaker 3: four and he was a starting quarterback for the Chiefs
Speaker 3: for a few years, went in after Brady got hurt.
Speaker 3: Was a backup quarterback once some game, once a game,
Speaker 3: but wasn't like a guy that won a whole bunch
Speaker 3: of super Dude. He decided one offseason and I was
Speaker 3: just playing at USC He's just gonna go play baseball
Speaker 3: and started pitching for the college baseball team like that
Speaker 3: kind of ad Athletes are athletes. It's a wild across
Speaker 3: the board, and I just work hard, yeah, and try
Speaker 3: to get as close as I can. In rec league,
Speaker 3: we had we had a we.
Speaker 2: Have a best buddy, that's a he was a cy
Speaker 2: Young Award winner pitcher and who is it Jake Peevey?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and dude, we two time world champions.
Speaker 2: You can literally play catch with him, just playing catch, man,
Speaker 2: and I'm talking about forty yards or just throwing a
Speaker 2: baseball due now ten years removed from the league. Way
Speaker 2: that the ball hit the glove was different from anyone
Speaker 2: else I'd ever called. And I played baseball my entire life,
Speaker 2: but the way he it was like when when I
Speaker 2: throw a baseball, I come by the side of my head.
Speaker 1: When he threw a baseball, it was like it came.
Speaker 3: From like up here to heavens.
Speaker 2: It was insane, and it would hit my glove and
Speaker 2: just nearly take it off.
Speaker 1: And he's not even trying. He's not even trying, but
Speaker 1: you would catch. It's just it's the same thing with CJ.
Speaker 1: When you're throwing. Yeah, when you when you're throwing football
Speaker 1: with CJ. Beathard, it's coming at you so fast, but
Speaker 1: if you get your hands in the right place, it's
Speaker 1: like somebody's pushing, like pushing it in, like just putting
Speaker 1: it in your hands.
Speaker 3: I think it lands.
Speaker 1: It comes so hard, but it lands so soft. And
Speaker 1: only those guys know how to throw football that way.
Speaker 3: We are a bit jaded, but it's that way with vocalists,
Speaker 3: Oh for sure. Here now we get to be around
Speaker 3: a lot of great vocalists.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, and we're of the world class, some
Speaker 1: of the best.
Speaker 3: Thing the giants, and you know, I'll get tag this
Speaker 3: person's good or I'll be somebody you know, and back
Speaker 3: home in Arkansas and they're like, wow, the person and
Speaker 3: they are, but it's like a good ball player back
Speaker 3: in Mountain Pine or a minor league. It's like, wow,
Speaker 3: they're doing. But until you actually see somebody who has
Speaker 3: not only the natural ability, but the work ethic, uh,
Speaker 3: the ability to strategize. Is how it's like a professional
Speaker 3: athlete totally. And we'ren't it every day, so we can
Speaker 3: get lost on us. It'd be like somebody in pro ball,
Speaker 3: like in the front office. Yes, you probably get lost
Speaker 3: same way with those singers.
Speaker 2: You've worked with a lot of different vocalists and had
Speaker 2: them home. Who who is somebody? And I know you've
Speaker 2: had all of them, but like, who is someone that
Speaker 2: popped on your show that immediately because we've had a
Speaker 2: couple of those even doing this this year that like
Speaker 2: when the tones started coming out of their esophagus, we
Speaker 2: were like, takes you some much? Oh shit, this is
Speaker 2: super special. Is there anybody that just immediately caught your ear?
Speaker 1: Like? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I think some of them though are It's because
Speaker 3: again everybody's great, not everybody, but we're around great greatness
Speaker 3: sometimes it's how distinct it is totally you know more
Speaker 3: than yeah, more than I can categorize, And uh, I'm
Speaker 3: going to give you the easiest softball answer, but I'll
Speaker 3: use the first time I ever heard him sing from
Speaker 3: three feet from me was Luke Combs, way early on
Speaker 3: he was on the show. This is this is when
Speaker 3: I was like in my breaking artist phase, which now
Speaker 3: I'm just in the me phase because I'm just doing
Speaker 3: content right, It's this point in my career. He it
Speaker 3: was like a freaking cannon ball was coming out of
Speaker 3: his chest. It was violent. And not only that, because
Speaker 3: it's so violent, it didn't get credit for being pure.
Speaker 3: So vocally that's a pure singer, but because it's so violent,
Speaker 3: and because of what he sings about and how he dresses,
Speaker 3: and he doesn't like change it up for anybody else.
Speaker 1: He just he's just him.
Speaker 3: At times that can be lost because of everything else
Speaker 3: around it. With Luke Combs, I was like, h first
Speaker 3: of all, scare the crap out of me. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: it was is violent. It's the first time it's like
Speaker 3: a hundred picture those one hundred and four. But can
Speaker 3: put it. It can paint the.
Speaker 1: Corners, especially when you're sitting this far from him, almost
Speaker 1: like it's almost like filling a speaker with bass. Crazy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can it's a vibration that you can feel.
Speaker 3: And somebody that can throw one hundred and four you
Speaker 3: don't talk about how they can paint the corners. Talk
Speaker 3: about dude, he could throw one hundred and four miles
Speaker 3: an hour. He's also got some control, but he But
Speaker 3: really it was about the control. If I were to
Speaker 3: go like who do I hear? And I go like, man,
Speaker 3: there's like Jillian Jacqueline is somebody that had a deal
Speaker 3: for a bit. Yeah, great independent artist, Like there's something
Speaker 3: about her tone and there's something about is sound total cornball?
Speaker 3: But I feel fair saying it because it's not cornball
Speaker 3: because I'm around it all the time. Like I feel
Speaker 3: like I can feel what the heck she's saying without
Speaker 3: or even saying it, just by the sounds coming out
Speaker 3: of her. And is she gonna out sing somebody? Straight up,
Speaker 3: let's just sing loud and no. But she sings with
Speaker 3: with such texture and character.
Speaker 1: Well said that it's just different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's well said. Honestly, I mean that is what
Speaker 2: it is. It's the texture, it's the character.
Speaker 1: It makes you listen to it.
Speaker 2: That's the inflections too, like like a really well, and
Speaker 2: that's a great analogy made about the picture. It's not
Speaker 2: that he can just throw one hundred and four. He
Speaker 2: can paint corners, he can put it in the pocket,
Speaker 2: he can slow it down when his curve boss probably nest.
Speaker 2: And sometimes those people don't even know that they're doing that,
Speaker 2: and that's when it's beautiful. Like when you were talking
Speaker 2: about with Luke early on, he didn't necessarily even know
Speaker 2: he was doing that. And then you get to like
Speaker 2: a more refined thing, which was like kolbe Kalay. Like
Speaker 2: when she was she opened her mouth on our show,
Speaker 2: we were like, oh man, this is like angelic ordained
Speaker 2: kind of heavenly deal.
Speaker 1: She was, she was not. I mean, that's the one
Speaker 1: that pops into my mind. I mean amazing, and she's
Speaker 1: like the most artistic human and always that hasn't the
Speaker 1: time hasn't caught up with her yet.
Speaker 3: I agree, you know, she's she's been a bit ahead
Speaker 3: of our time, and that's been a penalty towards her.
Speaker 1: Sure as far as the success thing, yes, yeah, as.
Speaker 3: Far as like me strange success, but she's ahead. She's
Speaker 3: way ahead, and it just hasn't matched up yet. And
Speaker 3: if you just stay at it, eventually it's going to
Speaker 3: catch up, but she's already gonna be there. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: I'll get one other one real quick. Was It's It's again.
Speaker 3: This is going to be a total cliche, went too.
Speaker 3: But I got to sing with her, and so I
Speaker 3: have We do a show every year for Saint Jude
Speaker 3: at the Rhyman where I'm in a comedy music duo,
Speaker 3: but we have a full band of studio musicians. There
Speaker 3: was a time where we were playing festivals and it
Speaker 3: was crazy, so I had to have a band.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember those days. Yeah, we would like play.
Speaker 3: We would like play after Old Dominion and we'd go
Speaker 3: on in our Wiggles outfits because I put us all
Speaker 3: in stupid closer people would know we weren't.
Speaker 1: Serious producer Eddie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like I was all embarrassed to play after
Speaker 3: really good acts because the only reason we were playing
Speaker 3: these spots late and festivals is because we sold a
Speaker 3: bunch of tickets. Yeah, and we didn't sell a bunch
Speaker 3: of tickets because we were like a great band, which
Speaker 3: Eddie and I were just kind of funny, and we had
Speaker 3: people that came to show. I'm sure they ate it up,
Speaker 3: though sometimes sometimes they were confused. There were sometimes people.
Speaker 1: Were we don't really like this.
Speaker 3: They were just like, what's happened?
Speaker 1: Country fans?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we play faster horses and they'd be like, what
Speaker 3: is this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But the person I sang once at the rhyme and
Speaker 3: with Carrie Underwood and so aveers in and you know,
Speaker 3: it's always kind of a slightly distorted, and you have
Speaker 3: certain things being fed through ears, like there's only certain
Speaker 3: instruments I want to hear so I can keep up
Speaker 3: because again I'm not really a musician. Yeah, and Carrie
Speaker 3: comes out and open his mouth and it was an alien. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was an alien and.
Speaker 1: Out of the not of this world. Yeah, never have.
Speaker 3: Heard anything like that before because it was just so pure,
Speaker 3: strong and immediate, and it was like if everybody, this
Speaker 3: is what I do. And it kind of sucked the
Speaker 3: wine down of me for a little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun when that happens too, as as someone
Speaker 2: who's well all three of us, as people who are
Speaker 2: in this all the time and hear all the time.
Speaker 2: When you when that that pop of like genuine inspiration
Speaker 2: hits your ears, it's it's a it's a very beautiful
Speaker 2: thing and it doesn't doesn't happen all that often. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's tons of great singers, man, and there's tons of
Speaker 2: great singers that sing great songs. But to have that occasional,
Speaker 2: just like reset on, Man, this is kind.
Speaker 1: Of not of normality in music. It's that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: I think Kelly Clarkson is that too.
Speaker 1: I want to get your take on this, and and
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned Luke because I feel like he
Speaker 1: was one of the cars at the beginning of this
Speaker 1: caravan of country music that's happening right now. Where do
Speaker 1: you think the state of country music is and where
Speaker 1: do you think it's going?
Speaker 3: So the state right now is Garth Brooks, Brooks and
Speaker 3: done nineties right now, it is it is it, We're
Speaker 3: in it sometimes. And I have friends that have toured
Speaker 3: a bunch that didn't quite know how big they were
Speaker 3: getting because they were always on the road. Kind of
Speaker 3: one of those things. Yeah, we're living right in the
Speaker 3: Meley country music now. And the only reason that I
Speaker 3: can kind of feel what other people that aren't in
Speaker 3: country music because I get a lot of calls or
Speaker 3: opportunities based on just how big the format is, meaning
Speaker 3: there'll be a TV show call and go like, hey,
Speaker 3: you're a pretty good host, but obviously you're like the
Speaker 3: biggest you have the biggest listening whatever in country music
Speaker 3: and country crushes, so we definitely want to talk to
Speaker 3: you like I'm getting I'm literally getting offers because of
Speaker 3: the popularity of the format, and you're looking at three
Speaker 3: let's remove the I don't even call him so much
Speaker 3: legacy but like Chesney still doing it, but for the
Speaker 3: sake of it, we'll call him legacy, Garth legacy. They're
Speaker 3: still at football stadiums. Okay, cool, rare. You can do
Speaker 3: that at any point. But when you have Comb's wallin
Speaker 3: Zach Bryan, you have three guys under like forty who
Speaker 3: are selling out football stadiums.
Speaker 1: On the regular, yes you can.
Speaker 3: Nobody's doing that anywhere else in the world. What I
Speaker 3: wonder is when does Morgan get corny to know to
Speaker 3: not his fault. But sometimes you get so big that
Speaker 3: then people have to start acting like they don't like you. Oh,
Speaker 3: it has nothing to do with the art you make
Speaker 3: or the person you are.
Speaker 1: Sure, but Cole plays a great example part cold Play.
Speaker 3: But then you get so big that since everybody likes you,
Speaker 3: people aren't gonna go No, I don't. I don't like that.
Speaker 3: That's lame.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nickelbacks same cinccenario.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: People love them so much that it reversed on them
Speaker 1: and we've seen and then it reversed back where now
Speaker 1: they're cool again.
Speaker 3: Yep, Creed's do the thing.
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, I wonder she ever got corny? No, she never.
Speaker 1: You don't think she took a dip in the middle
Speaker 1: of this, No. I think her followers have been there since.
Speaker 3: I think one Taylor kind of crushes stupid strike all
Speaker 3: the Swift is it's just me and Dan were cool anyway.
Speaker 3: I wonder, because he's getting so popular, when does he
Speaker 3: get corny to no fault of his own totally, because
Speaker 3: there is a I can't.
Speaker 1: Believe it hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 3: If you want to know the truth, there is a state,
Speaker 3: a threshold where that happens, regardless of what you're putting
Speaker 3: out and how you're putting it out.
Speaker 2: Man, his his his his fans pretty die hard. But
Speaker 2: you know what I think it is. I think it's
Speaker 2: true talent. I mean, I know there's a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff going on with him, but I think the literal
Speaker 2: sound of the guy's voice is so addictive.
Speaker 3: But you're not gonna tell me cole Plate didn't have that.
Speaker 3: They're the most talented band one of them in the
Speaker 3: past twenty years.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you that.
Speaker 2: I am going to tell you that I feel like
Speaker 2: the quality of Wallin's songs has not even kind of stammered.
Speaker 3: It doesn't even have to be Morgan. I'm just saying
Speaker 3: he's He is the only one that's there that's at
Speaker 3: that place where it's like it could be the God's
Speaker 3: country podcasts has gotten so big, when does it become corny?
Speaker 3: To I hit a stage in my career different where
Speaker 3: I got corny because I was on every station and
Speaker 3: everybody was and so you got a kind of pivot
Speaker 3: at time total and and do slight recreations of your
Speaker 3: which I've done in multiple ways. But that's what I
Speaker 3: wonder about Morgan, like when does it get corny? Because
Speaker 3: he's so big. But with the state of it now,
Speaker 3: it's never been better, never been healthier. But that is
Speaker 3: always what leads to the pig getting a little too
Speaker 3: fat and then it gets slaughtered.
Speaker 1: So we're close to bandslaughtered, gorn Fit, what's close all
Speaker 1: of our careers.
Speaker 3: Are relating not at all. But again, then the format
Speaker 3: gets so big the same way an artists could get
Speaker 3: big that it gets corny because then everybody's wanting to
Speaker 3: So it's the same the same model. It's lift someone
Speaker 3: up to knock them down. It's what we love doing
Speaker 3: in America. We're crushing it right now and eventually we won't,
Speaker 3: and then we will again. So that's my answer on
Speaker 3: where I think country music is the One thing that
Speaker 3: I would like to say before we finish is that.
Speaker 3: And I was just doing an interview about the Grammys
Speaker 3: a minute ago and they were asking me about Beyonce,
Speaker 3: and people try to get me on the Gotmes all
Speaker 3: the time. People people love to try to get because
Speaker 3: they will love to.
Speaker 1: That question. I get for sure. Right, let's go viral everybody,
Speaker 1: everybodys trying everybody. Everybody wants a bit.
Speaker 3: So I'm doing this thing about the Grammys and they're like,
Speaker 3: how do you feel like Beyonce's affected country music? And
Speaker 3: I said the following. I said, I hate now as
Speaker 3: a person, No, but I hate people that say that.
Speaker 1: That's not you hate people. Got it? You heard it
Speaker 1: here first?
Speaker 3: Guys that say that listen to something and go, well,
Speaker 3: that's not country music. And I will tell you why,
Speaker 3: because in the root, and I do consider myself a
Speaker 3: bit of a scholar when it comes to traditional and
Speaker 3: even pre traditional country music, which is why I've been lucky.
Speaker 3: You have to be a part of a lot of
Speaker 3: really great documentaries like Charlie Prior documentary like these guys
Speaker 3: that are like my grandma raised me on gospel records
Speaker 3: of Andy Griffith and modern sounds right, Charles. But then
Speaker 3: it made me want to learn. Even previously, where I
Speaker 3: find the issue to be is people that will hear
Speaker 3: something that is not considered traditional from when they were
Speaker 3: a kid and be angry at it and go, well,
Speaker 3: that's not country. And you'll see where this the Beyonce
Speaker 3: comes into it. And what I said to them was
Speaker 3: that person annoys me. We also need them, I said,
Speaker 3: because if you were to find what country music actually
Speaker 3: is and go this is country music, it would be
Speaker 3: a slave from Africa that came over on the slave
Speaker 3: ship that brought a version of the banjo, and a
Speaker 3: European who came over as immigrant who bought a fiddle,
Speaker 3: and they came to the southeast part of America into
Speaker 3: the mountains. Why do we think country music is in
Speaker 3: the southeast? And absolutely and what was their slaves? And
Speaker 3: and that is what that is what country music was.
Speaker 3: That's the ruin of country music. So if you want,
Speaker 3: and then you can go through the times, and if
Speaker 3: they give me full minutes of Ted talk, I'll go
Speaker 3: some of the times where country music was absolutely said,
Speaker 3: you are a fraud. If you go to Bob Wills
Speaker 3: and the Texas Playboys. Whenever they amped up a freaking
Speaker 3: steel guitar, it was sacrilegious. That is not country music
Speaker 3: to us.
Speaker 1: It has to be. That's like three country music.
Speaker 3: When Garth is told, you can do Johnny Cash. He's
Speaker 3: from Arkatsam grandma's form Arkansas.
Speaker 1: She would tell me stories about people basically protesting Johnny
Speaker 1: Cash concerts because he was a Christian artist and he
Speaker 1: was a rock and roll guy.
Speaker 3: But that's not country. You can't do it. You can
Speaker 3: do Garth and how he toured, you can do Sam
Speaker 3: Hunt and how he talked, you can do So my
Speaker 3: point is if people aren't always pushing the format of
Speaker 3: different directions, we die.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: You don't have to go along with every direction. And
Speaker 3: some directions have been wrong. But when someone hears something
Speaker 3: goes that's not country, I feel like you were ignorant
Speaker 3: in what country music is and will always be and
Speaker 3: is a growth and could be yes, yeah, and may
Speaker 3: not be and you might actually be right correct, but
Speaker 3: you're not right if you say it before it's over,
Speaker 3: because there have been so many genesises that have happened
Speaker 3: where people have said not country music, no way. And
Speaker 3: so when the Beyonce record comes out, it's pretty good,
Speaker 3: and it was like, why isn't she making it? Like
Speaker 3: one of my really good friends of Charlottage and the
Speaker 3: God and he's a black dude to know much about
Speaker 3: country and those two things don't have to do anything together,
Speaker 3: but he is and he does hip hop show and
Speaker 3: he's like, why is the Beyonce record like making it?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, I can tell you this town
Speaker 3: is so incestual that and he goes because like, uh,
Speaker 3: post Malone is. I said, here's the thing. It's not
Speaker 3: about that she's black and he's white. It's that this
Speaker 3: town in this way sucks. It's incestual. Well, Postmon moved
Speaker 3: here and lived here and what did my charity show
Speaker 3: and had Paisley on and integrated himself in the community
Speaker 3: and immerged himself, and right or wrong, this town reacts
Speaker 3: to that. That's right, fair or unfair. This town reacts
Speaker 3: to that at times unfair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like it's a they give credit, like, yes,
Speaker 2: you got your cred because you wrote songs with Sunrise.
Speaker 3: Where Beyonce did not do that at all one bit,
Speaker 3: and so she got no.
Speaker 1: Look, it almost looked it almost feels like an infiltration
Speaker 1: at that point, like like somebody's trying to get a.
Speaker 3: Little and we all hate because someone just comes to
Speaker 3: country because they're failing somewhere else. Absolutely, we all hate that.
Speaker 3: I'll never lie about that, like, don't use us because
Speaker 3: you suck somewhere else.
Speaker 1: And think it's just gonna be an easy way to Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you.
Speaker 3: Know who doesn't need country music Beyonce, post Malone, they
Speaker 3: don't need it. They did that because they wanted to
Speaker 3: do it. I have no problem with people that love
Speaker 3: the format. And so my anger wasn't that people weren't
Speaker 3: playing her because she was black, because I don't think
Speaker 3: that's what it was. I think it was some people
Speaker 3: want to play her because she didn't come to town
Speaker 3: and like play the stupid games that some people they
Speaker 3: have to play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that they would rule as authenticity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like oh you're not country, you can't you saying
Speaker 3: R and B so so to post Malone and then
Speaker 3: people go, well he's white, so they're letting it. I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: as unfair as it is. He showed up to town
Speaker 3: and like wrote with everybody got a little bit and dudes,
Speaker 3: that should have to be paid if you make great art,
Speaker 3: this country let her rip. So country music I like
Speaker 3: to think of it as like in a like a
Speaker 3: big latex condom, and its arms are always like pushing
Speaker 3: its way out of it, like switch, thank you, and
Speaker 3: like which way is do we? And some sometimes the
Speaker 3: arms come back and sometimes they through. Yeah, And so
Speaker 3: that that's me most Friday.
Speaker 1: Now. It's honestly gusting.
Speaker 3: But I I love what country music is. I understand
Speaker 3: everything is cyclical. It's a monster right now. It will
Speaker 3: not be a monster again. It will be a monster again,
Speaker 3: and and it will get so big that it becomes corny.
Speaker 1: That is great. Yeah, that's great, dude. I could do this.
Speaker 1: And before you get out here.
Speaker 3: That's what happens when you guys come to my house
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know.
Speaker 1: That before before you get out of here, before we
Speaker 1: have we have a fan, a close family friend that is,
Speaker 1: she's fourteen, Yeah, the biggest Bobby Bones fan in the world.
Speaker 1: We wanted to give her a chance to ask you something.
Speaker 1: So I'm Ellis sorry, sorry, sorry, Bobby. I'm Ellie.
Speaker 7: Hey Bobby, I'm Ellien. And listen to your show every
Speaker 7: morning and listen to all your podcasts, and your show
Speaker 7: is really just helped keep me motivated and be successful.
Speaker 7: And you're just so successful in your life and you
Speaker 7: just continue to see those limits. And so I was
Speaker 7: just wondering what what keeps you motivated and what keeps
Speaker 7: you just on your own path and your own thing.
Speaker 3: Thanks the honest answer, I kid you not. This is
Speaker 3: not me just saying it as Ellie preface that, Ellie,
Speaker 3: thank you so much for even caring and knowing who
Speaker 3: I am. But it's extreme insecurity. I think a lot
Speaker 3: of us get into art because we are wildly insecure
Speaker 3: and we're looking for love in different.
Speaker 1: Ways, touching a nerve there bones.
Speaker 3: Fear based, it's all all. My success is fear based,
Speaker 3: very vulnerable, and I am not scared for something to suck,
Speaker 3: because I have done many things that have sucked, and
Speaker 3: I get right back up and nobody remembers. Nobody cares.
Speaker 3: Everybody's so focused on themselves. The thing that I say
Speaker 3: to myself and to others the most, which sounds harsh
Speaker 3: at first, is nobody cares. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: What I mean by that is you have your very
Speaker 3: very very select few people in your circle six eight
Speaker 3: that you love. You would give an organ for the rest.
Speaker 3: They don't really care. For a minute. They might, but
Speaker 3: they're st worried about them el and nothing matters. Meaning
Speaker 3: I have done things, I have tried things unsuccessfully that
Speaker 3: have bombed out.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares.
Speaker 3: You know who cares? Me worrying if other people care, Yeah,
Speaker 3: nobody cares. They're not thinking a bit about it because
Speaker 3: everybody is so focused on themselves. The beauty is nobody
Speaker 3: cares and nothing matters. So as long as it matters
Speaker 3: to you and you care about it, go and if
Speaker 3: it doesn't work and you still love it, do it again,
Speaker 3: and do it again, and until you don't want to
Speaker 3: do it anymore, do it again, and you will learn
Speaker 3: so much from that. This is my entire second book
Speaker 3: fail until you don't. I'm not a writer. I don't
Speaker 3: not to write a book. I've read two New York
Speaker 3: Times bestsellers. I'm not to write a book. I literally
Speaker 3: don't know how to write a book. It's just going
Speaker 3: I'm going to do this and then getting up and
Speaker 3: doing it again because it's not going to work the
Speaker 3: first time. So that's my key. It's showing up on time,
Speaker 3: damn shouts, and also not being afraid to fail because
Speaker 3: nothing matters, nobody cares.
Speaker 1: A quote that changed changed my mindset, And that is
Speaker 1: just what you're saying, is like, it's like you'll you'll
Speaker 1: quit caring what people think about you when you realize
Speaker 1: that they don't. They don't and and and you do
Speaker 1: what you are. You feel like you're created to do,
Speaker 1: which which us is write songs and and and and
Speaker 1: you know, do this thing and be great dads. But
Speaker 1: you do it for yourself. You don't do it for
Speaker 1: anybody else. And when you can, when you can tap
Speaker 1: into that, you've tapped into a dangerous level of catching dreams,
Speaker 1: of of of making things happen that you've always wanted
Speaker 1: to happen. Because at that point, you don't have any limits, right, Like, like,
Speaker 1: there's nobody that can stop you if you're the only
Speaker 1: you can. So if you can get to a point
Speaker 1: where you're doing it because you want to do it,
Speaker 1: there ain't no limit.
Speaker 3: I was fortunate. I used to not think. I'll conclude
Speaker 3: with this, I was fortunate.
Speaker 1: I used to not think us.
Speaker 3: I used to be very resentful about this. I was
Speaker 3: fortunate that I grew up extremely poor and nothing to lose.
Speaker 2: You were fortunate that you grew up extremely poor and
Speaker 2: had nothing to lose.
Speaker 3: Because what's the worst thing is gonna happen to me?
Speaker 3: I can try big things. What's the worst thing's gonna
Speaker 3: happen to me?
Speaker 1: Nothing? The same thing I learned, dude, I was good
Speaker 1: at being poor.
Speaker 3: It sucked. I was good at it, though I figured
Speaker 3: it out so where I used to resent that so much,
Speaker 3: and I used to resent all the normal family and
Speaker 3: all the things. Like I am grateful for it in
Speaker 3: such a way because I would not be here because
Speaker 3: maybe I would have been like, I don't know, this
Speaker 3: is kind of comfortable here, yeah, Like I had nothing
Speaker 3: to lose, and there's real value in having nothing to lose.
Speaker 3: And I have to remind myself of that now because
Speaker 3: I do have a lot of stuff. I'm rich now,
Speaker 3: it's crazy. I can't believe it. And so yeah, thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you. That's one I'm proud of. And it's like
Speaker 3: I have see my house is awesome.
Speaker 1: Right that pool, I got to get in that.
Speaker 3: Pool and I have a dog bridge. I have to
Speaker 3: remind the register. Yeah, but we did. That was just
Speaker 3: apply wood and aft. You be honest with it looks
Speaker 3: it looks nice. It's like I have to put myself
Speaker 3: there that I have to remember that mindset or I'm
Speaker 3: going to be timid in action.
Speaker 1: Can I ask, do you live in fear that? That?
Speaker 1: Absolutely every day?
Speaker 3: My business manager, which didn't know what that was right
Speaker 3: until I got rich, Well, that's so much trying to
Speaker 3: get in my gate. This is funny. It's a hilarious
Speaker 3: rich person thing. Hold on trying to get in granted
Speaker 3: them in my gate about that. Granted, the question was
Speaker 3: do I fear my business manager, which I never had.
Speaker 3: I was like, why am I going to pay somebody
Speaker 3: a percentage? Like handle crap? And then you realize when
Speaker 3: you're paying tons of people. She had to tell me
Speaker 3: to stop overpaying bills every month because I'm going to
Speaker 3: be okay if I lose my job. Like she had
Speaker 3: to come to me and say, stop overpaying your bills
Speaker 3: because I wanted to have a bit of a surplus
Speaker 3: to cover my water bill for three months. That's a
Speaker 3: little security. This is like four years ago. This is
Speaker 3: not even like so that that never leaves. I don't
Speaker 3: want it to leave. I can be a little healthier
Speaker 3: with it. But I used to resent it. Now I'm
Speaker 3: grateful for it in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, you brought your guitar. Is there anything you
Speaker 1: want to say on the I.
Speaker 3: Just about to be funny, honest. I see people bring guitar.
Speaker 1: Bringing up show them, show the show, show the people.
Speaker 3: You guys are killing me.
Speaker 1: You have to go, oh yeah, he's gonna go. He's
Speaker 1: gonna go.
Speaker 3: Okay, look, I have this guitar. It's red, and I
Speaker 3: do comedy shows and I was gonna play a couple
Speaker 3: of songs for you, Like I have this one song
Speaker 3: people laugh at sometimes, and so it's called the Target song.
Speaker 3: And the whole thing is, uh, hold on, it's just uh,
Speaker 3: don't go shopping a Target with CaCu pints and a
Speaker 3: red shirt on don't go shopping it tight, it's the
Speaker 3: whole thing.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 3: So the whole joke was like, I needed food for
Speaker 3: my labor door, so I went down to my favorite store.
Speaker 3: I didn't think about the clothes I wore, but I
Speaker 3: learned a hard lesson, that's for sure. One, two, three four.
Speaker 6: Don't go shopping the target with pins and a red
Speaker 6: shirt on. Don't go shopping in a target with khaki
Speaker 6: pants and a rich sullo shirt on. That's an old
Speaker 6: lady came up to me. She said, how much for
Speaker 6: this cream of wheat? I said, today, old lady, it's free.
Speaker 6: And now she's doing hard time for shoplifting.
Speaker 1: Don't go shopping a target with khaki pants. So good,
Speaker 1: all right, thank you, hey bro, thanks for being you man.
Speaker 1: Thanks for welcome. You're welcome.
Speaker 3: I was gonna come in and like be like yalk off,
Speaker 3: smear and off, but I decided not to do. You
Speaker 3: guys even know that is I don't look it up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Russian comedian from like the eighties. It's one of those
Speaker 3: references like a family got references. Sometimes you miss it's
Speaker 3: weight smarter than the people watching. And I just did
Speaker 3: that to you guys, Yes, got Odusha. You don't drive
Speaker 3: car car drive you all right? Cool? Al right, anyway, sure.
Speaker 1: That was funny when I was will you will you
Speaker 1: come back on?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Great for sure. I remember Bobcat remember that guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's funny that that was comedy.
Speaker 1: At one point he had a TV show to where
Speaker 1: he was a little talking thing. I remember that, and
Speaker 1: like Sam Kennison, Oh yeah, okay, thank you for having
Speaker 1: me and God bless and thanks for hanging out in
Speaker 1: God's country. Bones, Bones Boone, thank you, thank you.