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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome and move the sticks DJ, Bucky back together, Buck.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Man? Did you watch the Finals

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Speaker 1: the Nuggets clinching that one last night?

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Speaker 2: I did? I did, and look he was great to watch.

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Speaker 3: And I think everything that we've talked about when it

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Speaker 3: of different things. And sometimes DJ, I know, when we've

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Speaker 3: And I think for the Nuggets, playing the Miami Heat

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Speaker 2: And what I am curious about is how.

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Speaker 3: They can take the lessons that they learned this year

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Speaker 3: Because you heard Mike Malone talk about hopefully this isn't

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Speaker 3: Can they take some of that added to a very

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Speaker 1: So, who's the NFL team? Who's the NFL Nuggets?

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Speaker 2: Ah Man, a talented team that could count.

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Speaker 1: The tournament every year but hadn't been able to cut

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Speaker 2: And I would say the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: I think that is that is the team to me,

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Speaker 3: The best thing about Joker is like and everyone kind

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Speaker 3: But I would say DJ, if your best player exhibits

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Speaker 1: Now. I think it's a great point, and I think

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Speaker 1: When you look at the Denver Nuggets and how they

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Speaker 3: It like I literally was sitting on there and I'm

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Speaker 3: And no one wants to do that, but we've all

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Speaker 3: Drew Bowser family, family friend, come on, played in my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent, you led me right to it.

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Speaker 1: Like that, there's a million examples of players like that

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Speaker 1: not many over that period of time. And of those

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Speaker 3: Right, So we've gone from you know, before we used

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Speaker 2: The new line.

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Speaker 1: That's the new line.

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Speaker 2: We're putting those guys in the separate category.

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Speaker 3: We're seeing teams not even And here's the funny thing,

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Speaker 3: And one day we came across the topic when he

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Speaker 2: And it came after time.

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Speaker 3: I think they took a kid way way back, maybe

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Speaker 3: And if you think about it, the odds would suggest

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Speaker 2: Would tell you spend more.

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Speaker 3: Of your time mining the big school landscape because more

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things I was thinking of when

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Speaker 2: I was curious.

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Speaker 1: I was just looking over the All Pro team as

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Speaker 1: You'll look and we'll get into the linebackers here in

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Speaker 1: a minute. But like Fred Warner at at BYU, those

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like you talk about interior offensive linemen, we're talking about linebackers.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, look, it's it's unfortunate, and people say

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Speaker 3: just telling you right now, it appears that there's a

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Speaker 2: Pool, and that pool appears to be power five schools. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The only the one is Tyreek Hill and that's you know,

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Speaker 3: Circumstances, Yeah, circumstances. Situations forced him out of it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Outside of that, I mean you, I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: So that's right.

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Speaker 1: And look, if you have a monster year, if you're

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Speaker 1: by all these you know, PAC twelve, big ten SEC

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Speaker 1: He said, what if there was nil? He goes that,

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Speaker 1: It's another thing to say I'm gonna turn down two

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Speaker 1: fifty three hundred grand. Now they ain't doing that.

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Speaker 3: No, Okay, So DJ like, let's think about it because

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Speaker 3: of YO, we make two maybe three visits, how do

436
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 3: we earmark that should.

437
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 1: Be three to one? You know, three should be seventy

438
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 1: five percent of your time should be spent at the

439
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 1: power five schools my opinion.

440
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 3: So, I mean, so, so think about how that changes

441
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,200
Speaker 3: the counting we think about it. On the West coast.

442
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,639
Speaker 3: That means I'm gonna spend my time at se UCLA.

443
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to Utah. I mean, I'm a.

444
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 1: Drive by you and they better be an A level player, right,

445
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're at if you're at a C

446
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 1: level school, I'm not going to I mean, I'm not

447
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,479
Speaker 1: gonna spend much time looking at B level players at

448
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 1: sea level schools. I'm going to sea level schools to

449
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 1: see A level players.

450
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 2: And so and so.

451
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 3: Like my time, like back in the day Idaho State,

452
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 3: when I went and saw Jared Allen.

453
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

454
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 3: And at the time, it was to see him as

455
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 3: a long snapper, like it was kind of a bonus

456
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 3: that he became the pass rush or whatever. But DJ,

457
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 3: so now you talk about I'm not saying we're making

458
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 3: the job easy for it, buddies, but I'm saying, hey,

459
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 3: now you just flying to me.

460
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 2: We just kind of hang out, just kind of we say.

461
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 1: We used to always say right major and the majors,

462
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 1: Like you're in the majors. You're talking to somebody who

463
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 1: went to app Statum and when I was there was

464
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 1: a one double a school. But I'm just telling you, like,

465
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 1: for every one of those guys, and look, you want

466
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: to find those diamonds in the rough, but for sure

467
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,640
Speaker 1: you do, But at what costs You're gonna miss You're

468
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 1: gonna mis evaluate the greater, greater success potential guys at

469
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 1: the big schools so that you can go scour around

470
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: to find the one diamond in the rough. It's like, yeah, man,

471
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 1: you congratulations, you hit on a six round pick who

472
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, who's a nice role player for you, but

473
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 1: your first, second, third round pick sucked because you didn't

474
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 1: proper spend the time to evaluate him.

475
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 3: And so everyone has to understand this, like when you

476
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 3: when you're a team, the focus in emphasis is always

477
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 3: on the first three rounds, like those are where the

478
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 3: bulk of your starter should come from. If a starter

479
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 3: emerges from rounds four through seven, that's great, but that's

480
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 3: kind of like a gravy pick. That's someone who either

481
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 3: was misevaluated by the crew, has some character issue, some

482
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: medical stuff that kind of felt caused him to drop,

483
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 3: or maybe they just developed at a phenomenal rate once

484
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 3: they got into the program. But you're counting gone your first, second,

485
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 3: and third round picks to be guys that are the

486
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 3: nucleus of your program going forward.

487
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: And then I would add also, you know, hey, maybe

488
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: if you didn't like I loved I said it when

489
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: he got picked that Marte Maphu's my favorite player, my

490
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: favorite player that I studied last year from Sack State.

491
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: But you know what, I got a chance to see

492
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: him at the Senior Bowl, So you know, maybe maybe

493
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 1: that's one less trip out to Sack State and you're

494
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to see him against better competition

495
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: on a you know, against more NFL guys. At the

496
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, he aces that test. You spend more time,

497
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 1: There's what I'm getting. There's time. There's time to get

498
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: those A level players at C level schools. You can.

499
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: You got time to work that one out. But I

500
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 1: will be allocating more on my fall. Like you said,

501
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: we were talking about a major and the major's man.

502
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's everything. Get the main thing, the

503
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: main thing. You can't go wrong. And I know this

504
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 3: will upset the apple cart, and I know we have

505
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 3: a host of draftnicks and aspiring scouts or whatever.

506
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 2: But you can do that.

507
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 3: But if you think about time on tasks, you want

508
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 3: to spend your time making sure that you get the

509
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 3: top guys.

510
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: Right.

511
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 3: It's very similar to like the stuff we do in

512
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: TV land, right, everyone gets mad on Paths to the

513
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 3: Draft or some of the other shows that we're on. Man,

514
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 3: y'all only talk about the guys at the top, But

515
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 3: those are the guys that.

516
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 2: Most of the people are going to focus on.

517
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: As much as I would love to give you the

518
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 3: hidden Gym, that's gonna be the sixth round pick that

519
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 3: hits for TV. People want to know who are going

520
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 3: to be the guys. Who are going to be the guys.

521
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 3: And when you look at the All Pro list and

522
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 3: all those things, the All prolust, let's tell you first, second,

523
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: third round, that's normally where those guys are coming from.

524
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: And so it's all about mitigating the risk. And that's

525
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 3: the only way you're able to do it. And so

526
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 3: it things is back to the conversation. Power five schools

527
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: are where you got to be at.

528
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember an old scout and I don't remember

529
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: exactly I'll probably mess us up how he said it,

530
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: but it was something along the lines of we're talking

531
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: about allocating time when I was getting started and everything,

532
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: and he had used the phrase like, hey, we all

533
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: end up having to clean up some poop, right, And

534
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: he said, you miss on a first round or that

535
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: you can clean up some elephant poop on that one.

536
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: As an organization, you miss on a six little rabbit pellets.

537
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: It's not great, it's not ideal. You got to clean

538
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: it up. But those aren't big deal. Those are not

539
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: a big deal. And I was like, all right, good,

540
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: good advice. Get the get those top guys right. Anyways,

541
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: it's an interesting discussion kind of looking back at that,

542
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: I think it is fasting to see what it looks

543
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: like in the future. But nine guys going back to

544
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, I guess if we go into the next

545
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: ten years, I would not imagine we see three or

546
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 1: four going the top ten from non powerful. It's not

547
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: going to happen.

548
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: No, it's not going to happen. It kind of plays

549
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 3: into the what they call it the Prado principal. Eighty

550
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 3: twenty eighty percent of your production comes from twenty percent

551
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: of the task. And so if you talk about like

552
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: the small number of Power five schools are, but you're

553
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 3: talking about eighty percent of the players coming from there,

554
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: you spend all of your time minding those things, and

555
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: you're more likely to get it.

556
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: Right one percent.

557
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's say, quick break, we're gonna come back.

558
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: We're going to have our draft. Are off the ball

559
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: linebacker draft for next season. Uh, Bucky I believe gets

560
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: to go first. But just so he knows Michael Parsons

561
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: is off the table. We'll get to that right after this.

562
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: All right, Buck, we're up. We're gonna do some off

563
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: the ball linebackers.

564
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: So okay, I would like to bring the judge in

565
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 3: because I think I have some evidence to make this point.

566
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: Oh you're trying to You're trying to change they be made.

567
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to bring them

568
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: in to bring them. I'm trying to enhance the ruling

569
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: because I think I have some evidence.

570
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 3: So back in the day, we had a player make

571
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 3: All Pro at two different spots. That would be one

572
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 3: Khalil Mack, who made it at edge rusher and linebacker.

573
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 3: So I believe because there is a precedent, that Michael

574
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: Parsons should be able to be evaluated at both positions

575
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: since he plays both of those things.

576
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: If you go to the depth chart on ESPN, you

577
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: can see that he's listed as to get in trouble

578
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: with the bosses on that album.

579
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna edit that out. We're gonna edit it out

580
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: of the bike. Where is he?

581
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: Where is he? Let's go to let's go our lads,

582
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: is the neutral as a neutral? Let's go to what

583
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: do we got at our lads the BIL look that

584
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: up where we got it from. I'm gonna want to

585
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: concede if our lads has him as a linebacker, buck,

586
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna allow you to make him a double pick.

587
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: I don't do it. I just wanted to bring that up.

588
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: I just want to bring up the Khalil Mac things

589
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 2: just so I could do it. Yeah, they have him

590
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 2: as a list is l e o. So that's like

591
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: a left hand right leo. Yeah.

592
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, stand up outside linebacker, which technically puts him in

593
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: the edge category.

594
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: But that's right, all right.

595
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: He's off, he's off the table.

596
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: So now we're doing we're doing off off ball linebackers.

597
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: So guys off ball linebackers, off.

598
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 3: Ball linebackers that I guess they play in between the

599
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: tackle box inside the tackle box and all these different

600
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: restrictions on labels and stuff.

601
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: That we have.

602
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: All right, So I guess I guess that's that's my choice.

603
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 3: I feel like this kind of whack based on and

604
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: this is.

605
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: What it is, man, that's where we are.

606
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: That's fine, all right. So first off ball linebacker, we're

607
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 3: gonna take you. Already brought his name up. I love

608
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 3: him at a mic linebacker.

609
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take. Look, I'm gonna take for everyone.

610
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take him because the size of the length,

611
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 3: the athleticism, the way that he is coming to the

612
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 3: league and really been a dominant force on what some

613
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 3: would say is the best defensive football the Samansisco forty

614
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: nine ers. Give me Fred Warner. If I'm building the defense,

615
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: I want this guy right in the middle.

616
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna go there. I was hoping somehow

617
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: you wouldn't take him, but you took him. He's off

618
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: the board there. I think he is. I do think

619
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: he is the top guy. All right, my my next

620
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: pick here, Now, I'm I'm going with this guy, knowing

621
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: he's coming coming off injury, so you know last year,

622
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out last year and I'm gonna look

623
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: towards the future. But I'm still gonna go with Shack

624
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: Leonard here is my number, is my first pick. But

625
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, when he's when he's out there, when

626
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent buck, I think what he brings

627
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: to the table is pretty unique. I still have got

628
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: to used to calling him by his proper name since

629
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: he changed his name on me. That kind of screwed

630
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: me up. Darius Larius Art is formally known as Darius

631
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: Leonard and I'm pulling up some of his numbers here

632
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: just to kind of back it up. But I mean

633
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: last year. Look, he played played in three games last year.

634
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: All you have to do is go back the year

635
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: before and you can see the production and what he

636
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: brings to the table. It's it's pretty special as a player.

637
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: Everything you can do, covering past lanes, blitzing him, anything

638
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: you want to do there, he can do it. So

639
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with him. I'm gonna cross my fingers

640
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: that we get a healthy season out of him.

641
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: Talented player.

642
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: When you think about the Tampa two defense and guys

643
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: that you want to have, He's a perfect week side linebacker,

644
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: running chase player, instincts, awareness, very disruptive and productive when

645
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: it comes to creating turnovers. I'm with you on that.

646
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Baltimore Ravens made a move

647
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: last year. They may have changed their defense going forward

648
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 3: in the future. How about Rokwan Smith from there? And

649
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: the reason why I want Roquan is he can give

650
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 3: you a little bit of anything and everything. When you

651
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: look at his stat line from last year one hundred

652
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: and sixty nine total stops.

653
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 2: Four and a half sacks, three interceptions. DJ.

654
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: You talk about wanting to have someone at the second

655
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: level that can impact the game, Roqwan Smith is the

656
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: kind of defensive playmaker that you can build your team around.

657
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, A big fan of his as well. You're kind

658
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: just working right down where I was thinking too, So

659
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: I was tempted to take him. He had a better

660
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: year obviously last year than Jack Leonard did. I'm just

661
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: kind of betting on Leonard coming back off that back

662
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: injury and you know, giving us what we had seen previously.

663
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: But I can't I can't hate on Rokwan Smith at all,

664
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: especially what he did when he showed up in Baltimore,

665
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: how he changed that defense around. Okay, a couple of

666
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: different areas. I can go here with this next one.

667
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: Man, It's tough now because now now now we're getting

668
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: until you're putting your scout head on and what do

669
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 3: you want?

670
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they are different types of guys. Yeah, I'm

671
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: actually gonna go with one. I might go again, I don't.

672
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: I don't think you'll have this one up there. I'm

673
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: gonna go with Nick Bolton with my next one. Who

674
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: I get to see this is kind of what he's

675
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: going to continue to grow in and be. I think

676
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: he had three picks last year against the Chargers. He's

677
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: hell on wheels. I mean, he plays unbelievable against them,

678
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: but you saw it in the Super Bowl as well.

679
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: He can run around, make plays, got tremendous range, tremendous speed.

680
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the more talented linebackers in

681
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I'm I'm betting on that trend line

682
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: continue to head up. So I'm gonna go Nick Bolton

683
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: with my second pick.

684
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: Oh look at you just kind of doing doing big things.

685
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: So DJ, So here here's the thing, because we talked

686
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: about it. We talked about a little bit given hall

687
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: passes or given some grace to guys that might have

688
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: fallen off a little bit. And so I'm gonna give

689
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: grace because I remember how good this go I was

690
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: when he came in and what he did early in

691
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: his career with the Ten Bay Buccaneers.

692
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Devin White.

693
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: And the reason why I'm gonna go with him is

694
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: because quietly, I mean, look, it was a bad defense

695
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: last year. One hundred and twenty four tackles. He had

696
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: five and a half sacks. Like DJ When you think

697
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: about just what he's able to do is like that

698
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 3: that pass rusher from the interior of your defense at

699
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: the second level. It's hard to find guys that can

700
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: do that. So give me Devin White right there. I'm

701
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 3: gonna take him. I know there's some clips and I

702
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: got Baldy's taking them to task. I know Warren sapp

703
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: has taken them to task sometimes for like maybe the

704
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: inconsistent effort. I'm gonna say, knowing that he wants a

705
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 3: big contract, I think he gets that fixed this year

706
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: and he goes right back to the top.

707
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I can get with that. I'm gonna

708
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: go with a guy who just got a nice chunk

709
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: of change and free agency. I'm gonna go Tremaine Edmonds, who,

710
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: just because of his size and his length in the

711
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: middle in the past game to me, is a nightmare

712
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: to kind of navigate around. We'll see what he does

713
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: there with Chicago Bears, they're trying to recreate the Brian

714
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: Erlacker roll there with a big, long rangeye off the linebackers.

715
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with him hoping for a big

716
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: year for Tremaine Edmonds and the Bears.

717
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: All right, DJ, we debated it quietly privately and some things,

718
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: and so I feel like right now I may be

719
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: given a bit of a Lifetime Achievement award, but I

720
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: don't care because this guy's going back and we're gonna

721
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: give him credit for his MAXI and his leadership ability.

722
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: How about we go with Bobby Wagner but the Seattle

723
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: Seahawks and what it should be his swan song. When

724
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: you look at what he did for the Rams last year,

725
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 3: he had six sacks, he was around the ball, had

726
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: a couple of interceptions, made some plays. I'm going to

727
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: give him credit for the other stuff, the ARA, the

728
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: leadership ability, and the intangibles.

729
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: I think it makes a difference. I think we see

730
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: a play out.

731
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd it's incredible what he did last year at

732
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: his age and just continues to play at a very

733
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: high level, always around the ball, very instinctive. I got.

734
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: I got nothing bad to say about Bobby Wagner. I

735
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: kind of thought he might fall off a cliff and

736
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. He's continued to play well. So I'm

737
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: gonna actually go and uh, oh, man, I'm gonna gora

738
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: the teammate of a guy that you already selected. I'm

739
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: gonna go Drake Greenlaw.

740
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: Ohh, I looked at.

741
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: Him, Drake Greenlaw. You know, we can make a case

742
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: he might be the second best linebacker in the NFL. Like,

743
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: if we're gonna go Fred Warner is the top guy,

744
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: the next best guy might be the guy who plays

745
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: next to him. Again, outstanding and coverage, his eyes work,

746
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: He's some way that can take on if you want

747
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 1: him to take on. Not many guys can do that anymore.

748
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: He can do that. He can slip blox, he has

749
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: the range, he can cover. You know, to me, he's

750
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: a complete linebacker. He's a complete player, and I think

751
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: he's finally starting to get his due a little bit

752
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: for what he's been in this league.

753
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: Good player, man, he's really a really fantastic player. And

754
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: there's one of those guys that were always looking for

755
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: those guys that can impact the game in a few

756
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: different ways.

757
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: He's certainly a very impactful and disruptive playmaker.

758
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: DJ we talked about this guy, and we kind of

759
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: talked about him the other day when we were looking

760
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: at I think we were looking at.

761
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: Hits and misses.

762
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: How about Logan Wilson from the Cincinnati Bengals being someone

763
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: of interest. The reason why I like Logan Wilson is

764
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: when you look at the Cincinnati Bingos defense and everyone

765
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: talks about lou and a room what he's able to

766
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: do for this defense, But a lot of what he's

767
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: able to do is predicated on the players that he

768
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: has on the inside. Logan Wilson has the versatility that

769
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 3: you like, hit, running cover, can blitz, can run down

770
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: to seem, makes a ton of plays. I'm gonna go

771
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: with him. He's my last pick, but I want to

772
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: make sure that he gets a little notoriety. So that's

773
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: why im Gonn put him right there.

774
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: All right, I like that one. I'm a Logan Wilson guys.

775
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: Well that's your final pick here. So you've got Fred Warner,

776
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: Rokwan Smith, Devon White, Bobby Wagner, Logan Wilson. That's a

777
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: heck of a group. I have got Shaq Leonard, I've

778
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: got Nick Bolton, I've got tre made Endmans, I've got

779
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: Drake Greenlaw and my last pick, a guy who's been

780
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: doing it and who has been consistent for a while.

781
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: Somebody who I think has always been appreciating the scouting

782
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: world when you talk to teams and everything, and now

783
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 1: you've seen him really get his due from the public

784
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: as well. I'm gonna go with Matt Malona with the

785
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. You want somebody who has blitz, he can

786
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: give you that, someone who has We always talky about

787
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: stopping power as a tackler. You know, when you make contact,

788
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: you have forced you have stopped power. He's got that

789
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: big time. I was kind of surprised. You know, he's

790
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: twenty eight years old. I thought he might even be

791
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: a little bit older than that. But this dude's put

792
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: up a bunch of numbers. He can get to the

793
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: quarterback if you want him to ad three picks last year,

794
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: always around the football and a leader in terms of

795
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: what you want in that inside linebacker to be a

796
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: leader and a presence on your defense. He gives you

797
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: that as well.

798
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: Good player, really good player.

799
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: Underrated player, I say underrated, but he has earned accolades.

800
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: But you talk about the Bills defense not being not

801
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: skipping the beat when they potentially lose a trainment that

802
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: was part of is because Matt Milano.

803
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: Yep, there you go. So out of Boston College had

804
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: a heck of a year last year, had a sack

805
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: and a half, three picks, always around the football, good player.

806
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: So there you go.

807
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: There's our off the ball linebacker draft. We have corners

808
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: I believe coming up on the next episode, So be

809
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: on the lookout for that one. Anything else you want

810
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: to add, Buck, I've got. I'm playing in a four

811
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: on four scramble match tomorrow, so I'll let you know

812
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: if I keep my winning streak alive here.

813
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're changing. I'm even noticing the attire you're becoming.

814
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: I was up, I was up in Courtlane, up.

815
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: I was up there.

816
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: This last week. I got it and I didn't even

817
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: play golf, but I went in the golf shop and

818
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: got a golf shirt.

819
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: I feel like you're coming.

820
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 3: I'm really surprised that you're not coming up my way

821
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: because the US Open is up.

822
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: Here, and I guess revitation, but I don't think I

823
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: can do it.

824
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, uh actually talked to the director on the

825
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: radio show the other day and they just talked about how.

826
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: That Yeah, the l A it's gonna be big.

827
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I like playing it more

828
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: than watching it. I gotta say, yes, sorry, you gotta pick.

829
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: You gotta navigate in and out.

830
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like kind of picking shoes

831
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: when you're gonna do it, But you gotta watch the

832
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: last round.

833
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 2: Should be fine. That's what I do. I watch.

834
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: I'll watch, you know, give me the last four or

835
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: five holes and then uh see the leaders come through.

836
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: That's about it.

837
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: But I got I gotta go.

838
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: You gotta ask you what what kind of clubs are

839
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: we playing with? What kind of clubs are what? I

840
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: got hooked up.

841
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: I got hooked up Josh Ruprect, who's the PR guy,

842
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: great PR guy for the Chargers. He hooked me up

843
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: with Taylor made and got me. Uh. I went up

844
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: there and did the fitting and everything that poor guy

845
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: had to He had to give me all these different clubs,

846
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: and none of them I hit very good. This is

847
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: this was last gosh. I think I got fitted for

848
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: him last summer. They came in last fall. But uh,

849
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: I had convinced myself that's all I was missing. I

850
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: just didn't have good clubs. And then uh, and then

851
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: I quickly realized the clubs and I mean they're great clubs.

852
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: Love the clubs, but I'm still a terrible golfer.

853
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: Are you much? Are you? Are you a steel chef guy?

854
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: You're a graphite chefs? Like, what's like, what's your thing like?

855
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's graph fight. I don't

856
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: think it's steel. I think I think from what I understand,

857
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: steel means you have more control and uh, you know,

858
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: maybe for a little bit more of an advanced player.

859
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't even look at it, to

860
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: be totally honest with.

861
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: You, For a long time, I had like these, I mean,

862
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 3: DJ my clubs were so I had some big birth

863
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: of ninety five's your chefs, oversized, oversized club hit or whatever.

864
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: I finally had to finally had to upgrade them. But man,

865
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: DJ golf clubs, it's expensive.

866
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: This this this they gave me a quitm' solids. Shout

867
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: out the good folks that tailor made because they helped

868
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: me out at equipment.

869
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: Equipment is a equipment is a thing. It's a good thing.

870
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: But I tell you what I always say. Everybody always says, right,

871
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: there's no such thing as a bad day on the

872
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: golf course. And while you get frustrated like I do

873
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: when I played terrible. It is true like getting outside,

874
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: you know, for for you know, you talk about mental

875
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: health and just being with your buddies, laughing, seeing the

876
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: sun like that's not a bad way to spend an afternoon,

877
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: what you know. Try to do it once a week,

878
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: probably more more like once every other week.

879
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: But that's it.

880
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: I always enjoy it, get outside a little bit. I

881
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: get a chance to get out there.

882
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: And I'm proud of you. You having a full immersion

883
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: like everything like before before.

884
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: By the way, did I did I tell you about

885
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: my fishing, my fishing expedition?

886
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, so now you fishing fishermen to.

887
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: An out I'm just a regular outdoorsman now, uh you'll yeah,

888
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: this is doing so this is this is embarrassing true story.

889
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: So we bought this house. We moved down here to

890
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: San Diego a year ago. And there's a little pond,

891
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: a little pond on the property. And they had stocked

892
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: this pond with small mouth bass, and I think there

893
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: might even be two catfish in there, of all things.

894
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: But it's oh, there's a decent size little pond, right.

895
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't know anything about fishing. I

896
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: didn't really appreciate fish, and these bass are dark colored,

897
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: so it's not like they're vibrant, you know, adding something

898
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: to look at. So then I see a buddy who's

899
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: got this coy pond and these real colorful koyfish. I'm like,

900
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: that's what I want. I gotta I want to I

901
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: want those fish, and I don't want the other fish that

902
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: I got. But so I talked to I've got the

903
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: pond guy that comes out and cleans it into all

904
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: this stuff, and so i'd asked him. I said, hey,

905
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: if I throw some koi in there, that those in

906
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: the bass get along, okay, he said, oh, yeah, yeah,

907
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: they'll be fine. So I go, I go, and I

908
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: these coyfish are expensive, super expensive, so you know, you

909
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: want to get them decent size. I'm like, I'm not

910
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: spending that, but you could get You're like, oh, you

911
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: get the little guys and just let them grow and

912
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: watch them grow up. Fifteen bucks apiece. So I got

913
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: three of them. Forty five bucks with these little guys.

914
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: So I call my buddy who lives in Nashville, and

915
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: he's country, you know. I'm like, so I'm like, he'll

916
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: know this answer. I'm like, hey, my pond guy says,

917
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: these fishial egos. Those fish are gone within two minutes.

918
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: You throw those things in there, it's lunch, no chance.

919
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm like, okay, do I believe. Do

920
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: I believe my country friend who's hunting and fish in

921
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: his whole life or my pond guy. My pond guy

922
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: doesn't care about this. So I'm like, so, me and

923
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: my son, who's fifteen. So the guy we go to

924
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: the shop, you know, the to the fish shop, and

925
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: then get these guys and he's like, so you need

926
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: to tell them where we're gonna put them in. I

927
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: didn't tell about the bass, but so he goes, you

928
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: got to put him there in the bag. Give you

929
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: the three fish in the bag, you know, like you

930
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: would get a goldfish at the fair or whatever. So

931
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: you take the bag and said you got to place

932
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: the bag. Let him float in the bag for an

933
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: hour in the pond before you cut them loose, because

934
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: it'll shock them, like they got to get used to

935
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: the environment. I said, Oh my gosh, I look at

936
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: my son. I'm like that. I'm like, the I think

937
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: they're a small mouth bass. You're gonna eat eat these

938
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: guys serving them up, So I'll send you the video.

939
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: So we we uh we take the bag out, pop

940
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: those guys in there.

941
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: Buck.

942
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: Those things took off so fast and all I and

943
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: then I never saw him again. I went back ten

944
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: minutes later. They're gone. I mean, they did not last

945
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: five minutes in this pond, not five minutes. And I

946
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: was thinking of do you remember when we were kids,

947
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: people our age used to go to restaurant.

948
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: Do you remember we used.

949
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: To go to restaurants and the waiter would come out

950
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: with this tray of like plastic food that represented I'm

951
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: like these baths. We're just sitting there staring at this food,

952
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: going when is this guy gonna give us these things?

953
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: This is amazing?

954
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: Served up? He served them, so they started up.

955
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: So so now I'm angry, like this is this is like,

956
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: what's the line? What's that line? You put three of

957
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: mine in the hospital, I put sixty years in the morgue.

958
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: I said, that's it, We're going fishing.

959
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: I go.

960
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: I go to this place called the Outdoorsman, I think

961
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: is the name of the shop. I go in there. Buck,

962
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, here's the deal I've got. I've got maybe

963
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: twenty four, twenty six, all mouthed bass in this pond

964
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: at my house. I gotta get them out of there

965
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: because I got to get them out. I want to

966
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: put the koi in there. I want the pretty fish,

967
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: but I got to get the bass out. So I'm like,

968
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: I need some help.

969
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: Help me.

970
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm like, I need the whole setup.

971
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: So he goes, Okay, this is a this is a

972
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: fishing pole. It's not too bad. You're gonna want this pole.

973
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: You go, okay, he goes, and then probably this real

974
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: I go, okay, do you think you could put those

975
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: together for me? I don't like my chances of being

976
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: able to get those togethers. Yeah, yeah, no problem, And

977
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: you just need to string it up to like, hey,

978
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: you think you could just get that strung up there

979
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: for me? Okay, you're gonna need some hooks, all right,

980
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: just tell me what hooks I need. Gets, so get

981
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: the hooks. He goes, here, you're gonna try and weave them.

982
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, can you just can you just put this

983
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: whole thing to get say, the whole thing.

984
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: Buck.

985
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: You gotta get some worms, gotta get some live worms.

986
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm out.

987
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: So that's why I was not loving that part of it.

988
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: So he gives me the little little Goes refrigerator, gets

989
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: me the live worms, he put the hook on for me,

990
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: did everything, and buck, I mean, I'm sitting here. He

991
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: must I gotta look like the dumbest guy in the

992
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: world who doesn't know a thing about fishing. But I'm like,

993
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm an outdoorsman shop down here in

994
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: San Diego. No harm, no foul, nobody's ever gonna know

995
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: about this. Hope, We're gonna go try and catch some fish.

996
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: So we get up to the front. I go to pay,

997
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: and he goes, are you Daniel Jeremiah?

998
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I go.

999
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: I go, hey, and my trust me, this has not

1000
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: happened very often. And I go, please don't tell anybody

1001
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: how dumb I am with this stuff. Like this guy

1002
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: is gonna go on his little social media and that

1003
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: would be like you got you guys, don't ever believe

1004
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: this guy's draft takes. He doesn't even know how to

1005
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: freaking put a rod and reel together. So we get

1006
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: this thing. So now me and my son, so both

1007
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: of us were like, this is We're on a little

1008
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: adventure here. So we go down, We go down, to

1009
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: the pond. You want to know how long it took

1010
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: us to get that first worm on the hook.

1011
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 2: Oh, DJ, it's not, it's not. It's not my repertoire

1012
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: like bus. This is.

1013
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: This is literally shooting fish in a barrel like these

1014
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: fish have just been in this pond and just been

1015
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: fed and fed and fed like they are. They are

1016
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: living the good life. They have no idea they're getting.

1017
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: At this point, you played a little trapped coverage.

1018
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: I was like, my whole thing, my whole thing. Like

1019
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: my experience with fishing is like you sit on a

1020
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: boat and you leave your line in the water, You

1021
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: play some cards, you get some lunch, and then once

1022
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: every forty five minutes you get a little nibble. Well,

1023
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: when you're in a small stocked pond with fish that

1024
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: I have no idea what the I mean? I dropped

1025
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: that worm in there, boom got one. I'm like, all right,

1026
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: so I re I reel him in. We got a net,

1027
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: so I drop him in the net. Then took us

1028
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: forever to figure out how to get the hook out

1029
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: of the fish. So here's one thing we haven't thought.

1030
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about what do I do when I

1031
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: catch this thing? I'm not eating it. So I told

1032
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: my son, like, go get the cooler, Go get the

1033
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: cooler out of the shed. So I don't know. I

1034
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: just seen fish on ice. That's so I figured I

1035
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: had to do.

1036
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: So you got a bunch of fish on ice.

1037
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: Just got like I'm Albertson's like I'm Bonds or rough. Yeah,

1038
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: become a produce this. I got this cooler full of ice,

1039
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Bam dropped it. Finally, get the thing out of there.

1040
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: So then we go to the next one, get him out. Well,

1041
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: I can't get the hook out of like the second one,

1042
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: so I can't, so final I rip it, so the

1043
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: hook comes out. I'm like, oh, crowd, Now I got

1044
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: to try and strain this thing that I'm trying to

1045
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: do like a boy scout not to get this next

1046
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: hook in there. So apparently I don't do that one

1047
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: well enough because the next one got the worm and

1048
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: the hook and my line came up. I got nothing.

1049
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: This is a this is a rigged game. I'm not winning.

1050
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: And then so then finally we get the hook back

1051
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: on there. Right, Well, now I haven't reeled it in

1052
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: properly so that the line is all the line is

1053
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: all tangled. I told you, the line.

1054
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 2: Is the line.

1055
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: The line is all tangled up. So I'm like, well,

1056
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: I can't reel it anymore. So I told my son.

1057
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's fine, So we just cut it a

1058
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: little bit. So now it's like all it is is

1059
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: a is a fishing pole with the line. I've got

1060
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: the hook on there. I'm still putting worms on. I

1061
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: can't so I just dropped the line in and then

1062
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: the fish get the worm, I pull it up. I

1063
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 1: can't reel it in, so I just got to hold

1064
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: the thing up in the air and then grab the

1065
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: fish buck. We got ten of them. We got ten

1066
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: of them day one, ten of them day one, put

1067
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: them in the cooler, and then I went. My son

1068
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: had to stay here for football, so my wife had

1069
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: stayed home, and then I went the rest of my family,

1070
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: took two of the kids with me, and we went

1071
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: up to Cortlane for four or five days. And so

1072
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm calling back to him and I'm like, hey, what'd

1073
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: you do with the fish? And He's like, I don't know.

1074
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: We want me to do with them? Like are they

1075
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: just in the cooler? He's like yeah. I'm like, hey, Bud,

1076
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: it's you gotta put those in the trash man, you

1077
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: gotta throw those in the trash. Sent it up really,

1078
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: really tight, and then it's trash day tomorrow.

1079
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: They gotta go.

1080
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's probably against some type of law.

1081
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: I don't know that you're allowed to do that. But

1082
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: I got fish in a bag and they were get

1083
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: them out, and then I noticed that the cooler did

1084
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: not make its way back into the house that has

1085
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: been left out by the trash can. I think my

1086
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: wife put the no. It's been holding fish for four

1087
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: or five days. That's not coming back in. But I

1088
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: told them, I told I told those bass. I said, look, man,

1089
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: you killed three of my freaking You ate better than

1090
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: I did that night, forty five dollars dinner.

1091
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 2: I just provided all you served.

1092
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: You took three of my guys. I took ten years.

1093
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: Oh man, you just served him up. Man, you just

1094
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 2: served him up like some.

1095
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: Nice You served up three coys fifteen feet They basically

1096
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 3: went to the fish persion of maskros.

1097
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: Yes, they did.

1098
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: They did.

1099
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: You just served them up.

1100
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: That's why I don't feel bad. That's why I don't

1101
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: feel bad about catching them, because I'm like, that was

1102
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: like your final meal, Like I mean, I mean that's

1103
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: are on death row. Don't you get to pick what

1104
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: your last meal is? For a real pretty colorful fish

1105
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: you got, they got to take down. So the only

1106
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: thing is, I don't know how to get the catfish.

1107
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: So the guy at the store told me at the outdoorsman,

1108
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: my buddy at the outdoorsman told me that I might

1109
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: need shrimp on the bait for that one. I don't

1110
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: think they're going to do the worms. I don't think

1111
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: those catfish are doing the worms. You know anything about

1112
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: fishing in North Carolina? You got no something?

1113
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 2: Did I did?

1114
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: But your story sounds like my granddad used to go

1115
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: on these fishing trips and uh, my granddad would come

1116
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: back with he would always tell me, Hey, I'm going

1117
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: to get red snapper. Indeed, I'm not I'm not saying

1118
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: that my granddad didn't go fishing, but I'm saying my

1119
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 3: granddad always came back with a cooler full of red

1120
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 3: snapper that all looked alike.

1121
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: They all looked like they.

1122
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: Were perfectly caught, no snags in them or whatever. And

1123
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 3: so maybe, just maybe my granddad was going to the

1124
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: fish market pulling all these things all right, I said you.

1125
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: I just said.

1126
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: I just said, I just sent you one video. Let

1127
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: me get your reaction on the for this one.

1128
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: Here.

1129
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: Hold on one second.

1130
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: It's going to go through to your cell phones.

1131
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: All right, I should have gone through. Okay, you can

1132
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: see the last minute. You can see the last minute

1133
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: there there.

1134
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: Oh man, Oh my gosh.

1135
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: It just slid into the pond, shaking and shimmering.

1136
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god. They knew what was coming and they're gone.

1137
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 4: This is basically this is a fish version of Jaws.

1138
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: Basically, what you just put out there was Jaws, like

1139
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 3: you know. Oh wow, I guess it's pretty bad.

1140
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: Man, it's not great. Uh.

1141
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: Anyways, I know I probably shouldn't even start recording this podcast.

1142
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: People probably got this, but I can't podcast guys.

1143
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: Oh man, I wish I could put the video up

1144
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: there for him.

1145
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna send you I'm gonna send you some

1146
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to send you some more. But yeah, you've

1147
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: got to see these things, man, like they're Yeah, it

1148
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: was uh.

1149
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: I put it. I put it.

1150
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: When we put them in the water, I said, this

1151
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: is if these guys survive, it's like a sixteen beating

1152
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: a one in the n C DOUA a tournament. Oh

1153
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: this is uh so you enjoyed those. I'll send you

1154
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: some more throughout the day. Anyways, hope, sorry for the

1155
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: fishing story. Hopefully you guys didn't uh I didn't cancel

1156
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: listening to the podcast after that.

1157
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: But is just like, where am I? What am I doing? Oh?

1158
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: You just talking about being settle ful failure?

1159
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's tough. All right, that's gonna do it

1160
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: for us. Maybe have an update. Maybe I'll go get

1161
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: some more of those fish out. I'll have a story

1162
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: for the next podcast. We're gonna look out for that.

1163
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: All right.

1164
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us. We see you next

1165
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: time right here. On finding Nemo Slash Move the Sticks

1166
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: Fi