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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you hear that sound? You get fired that

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Speaker 1: hell up? Hey, welcome back in morning combat, back in

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Speaker 1: your absolute face whole Monday, February tenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: The best damn combat sports show they ever had the

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Speaker 1: two days after UFC three twelve, and we are back

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Speaker 1: to mop up this Luke Thomas Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 4: In both UFC title fights and in the super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: Right, that's a fair point. None of them were even close. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have both Maya's and Kolpa's ready for jonggwe Lee,

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing, and we'll talk about it. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Or you can just take the butcher's word

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Speaker 1: for it, right, the butcher, that's an old Tommy boy.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting any of my Stanley references lately, right,

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Speaker 1: But we're back. We're ready to bang twoey. We've been

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Speaker 4: But yeah, coming back on Saturday as well. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: With the family, Uh, what will you expose? Two key

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Speaker 4: In terms of landmark, it's limited time, so we got

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Speaker 4: We're gonna watch fist fights and drug addicts in the subway.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be one. Two would be Empire State. I'm thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So she is dying, let's go to let's go, let's

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Speaker 1: that you can like, by the way, on YouTube right

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Speaker 1: All ready for this? How many songs off the Boggy

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Speaker 4: Yes, I don't care about this anymore. I want to

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Speaker 1: We can get into that. But Drigga Stuple see breaking

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, let's say one thing about coach Eric Nixon,

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Speaker 4: After every round he was saying things in your head

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Speaker 4: I certainly was watching that fight, so you can't really

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Speaker 4: claim if you're Sean that Sometimes you watch title fights PC.

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Speaker 4: But I just want to be very clear. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: And I bring that all up to say, Look, I

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Speaker 1: Yes. And I even thought with the change in facial

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Speaker 4: I did not think he looked as good. I thought

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Speaker 4: If you look at the numbers for this fight, his

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Speaker 4: Sean Strickland that in this particular case. But the body

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Speaker 4: he actually regressed. Yes he did. He worked less in

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Speaker 1: But to be fair, he also said it back in

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Speaker 4: This is not going to be any kind of claim

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Speaker 4: about is he sufficiently tough to be a UFC fighter

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Speaker 4: some that's not really what's holding him back. But what

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Speaker 1: And I'm not even mad at that, No I am,

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Speaker 4: I can't there.

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Speaker 1: The unwillingness to alter and change.

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Speaker 4: But if he was sick, what more could he have done.

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Speaker 4: That's the part where you have to kind of reconcile

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Speaker 4: but you're dude, I've never seen a more boring fighter

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Speaker 1: Unfair. A lot of you, a lot of your takes

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Speaker 4: You know, talked about it if you can get by

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Speaker 4: And I think defensively, Sean Strickland does have a good

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Speaker 4: Did he just simply choose not to?

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing that's the difference between those two strikers.

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Speaker 4: DDP leaves no fucking stone unturned if there is something

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Speaker 1: Off the shelf, like rioting in the ninety two NBA play.

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Speaker 4: He comes home with the biggest fucking because of it.

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Speaker 4: This is what gets me about Sean. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: This was not even a fight that had to happen.

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Speaker 4: Why wasn't the Hamsad fight made?

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 4: I don't know if there was some kind of immigration

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Speaker 4: Maybe Sean did him a solid. When I say that,

439
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Speaker 4: I mean UFC in the sense that they needed an

440
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Speaker 4: available contender.

441
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Speaker 1: He took it on terms.

442
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Speaker 4: He had to go to Australia, taxes, the whole nine yards,

443
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Speaker 4: and they didn't want to bury the guy. Also, he

444
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 4: may have had staff. They didn't want to bury him

445
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Speaker 4: after the fact. I understand that. I think that's totally fine.

446
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,200
Speaker 4: I'm not asking Dana to go and bury Sean, nor

447
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Speaker 4: do I wish to make it part of today's show.

448
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 4: But I am I asked. I am a little frustrated

449
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,879
Speaker 4: when it's like two things. One, this was probably his

450
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 4: last chance to have a UFC title fight. And again

451
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Speaker 4: I agree with you. Once the nose was broken, it

452
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,439
Speaker 4: was probably a done deal. But he may have been

453
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Speaker 4: down three rounds before that. It may have been down

454
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Speaker 4: even like, where was the urgency even before that? This

455
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,880
Speaker 4: is your last chance to be here?

456
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Speaker 1: He was. To give him credit, he was close in

457
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Speaker 1: the first two rounds. I thought one rounds one and

458
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 1: two you could argue, you could argue you had scored

459
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Speaker 1: it for him. I think there's an argument. But the

460
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Speaker 1: whole point was I thought he's still lost into any anything.

461
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Speaker 4: But even after round two or round three, you're saying

462
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Speaker 4: to yourself, dude, the whole point of what we were

463
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 4: talking about pre fight was, and you can.

464
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Speaker 1: Hear Eric Nickxon saying it. I know that's why turn

465
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Speaker 1: it up. And he didn't do it. There was something

466
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 1: that was wrong. I wish they would just come out

467
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Speaker 1: and set it. These are the times where I don't

468
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Speaker 1: think he's an excuse. I think you're giving us answers

469
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Speaker 1: to why it played out that way. I have a

470
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Speaker 1: take care from Dean Thomas after the fight that I'm

471
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Speaker 1: interested in your thoughts. We just have to admit it. Now,

472
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 1: we have to admit it.

473
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Speaker 8: Sean Stricklin is not who he says he is. He's

474
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Speaker 8: not who he says he is. We want him to

475
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Speaker 8: be something. He wants to be something.

476
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Speaker 1: But he's not that guy.

477
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Speaker 8: He's not the guy who's going to go to the death.

478
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Speaker 1: To the death.

479
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Speaker 8: He didn't go to the death.

480
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Speaker 1: He didn't even go to the well. He didn't even

481
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Speaker 1: go Dean.

482
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Speaker 8: I'm not saying he's not a great fighter. I'm not

483
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Speaker 8: saying he doesn't deserve to be where he's at.

484
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Speaker 1: But he's not who he says he is.

485
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Speaker 4: We gotta admit that, dude, What is wrong about that?

486
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Speaker 1: That's fine.

487
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 4: DDP is the guy who will go to the death.

488
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 4: DDP is the guy who, if he was down three

489
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Speaker 4: or four rounds, would fight with insane urgency. Sean Strickland

490
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 4: is a very talented, very tough guy with a defensively

491
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Speaker 4: oriented style. He is good, and because of how good

492
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Speaker 4: he is, he does deserve respect.

493
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Speaker 1: I understand that.

494
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Speaker 4: But the level of acclaim, the level of promise, the

495
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 4: level of here's the storm, that's what's to come. Here

496
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 4: was the big opportunity to deliver on that and again

497
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Speaker 4: tweak the style to get meaningfully different results, and everything

498
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Speaker 4: went the other way. At what point are you supposed

499
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Speaker 4: to inventory that and then ignore it.

500
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Speaker 6: All.

501
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Speaker 4: The overwhelming evidence at this point is simply too complete.

502
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Speaker 4: This is multiple title fights, a long career. What did

503
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Speaker 4: Dean say that was so aggressively.

504
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Speaker 1: Bong Island, Luke, He's not that guy, Bong Island Luke. Okay, Ma,

505
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Speaker 1: what Dean Thomas had to say say about Sean Strickland.

506
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Speaker 6: I think that's perfectly accurate. Everyone was saying this all week.

507
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 7: Sean says he's gonna fight to the death and then

508
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Speaker 7: keeps the whole fight like this is.

509
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Speaker 1: I don't even need him to fight to the death.

510
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: I need him to fight to win, you know. It

511
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Speaker 1: was just it was disappointing to see him stuck in

512
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: that mode when his coach, who we respect, is all

513
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: over him and and that's tough. But they caught up backstage,

514
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: the two of them, and there was no debate this

515
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: time of whether it was a head butt that costed that.

516
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Speaker 5: I wasn't a hit buck, No, No, that would have

517
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Speaker 5: Actually I thought that I saw that, bro, you broke it,

518
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 5: And I was like, that's so weird.

519
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Speaker 9: Did youse like I hear it?

520
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 10: Yeah?

521
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Speaker 1: And I was like you're then you were like sho buggers?

522
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Speaker 1: Was like it's like this and you just went, you know,

523
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Speaker 1: w for like two minutes just fun.

524
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Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, I broke it and I was like in

525
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 5: the movies they just set it back.

526
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Speaker 1: And I saw you trying and I was like, wrong way, man,

527
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Speaker 1: Like no I thought that.

528
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Speaker 9: I said it.

529
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Speaker 5: And the crazy thing is you shot at me again

530
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 5: and dude, your nose just done cutch.

531
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Speaker 9: In and broke.

532
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Speaker 11: I saw.

533
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Speaker 5: Man, we talked about you're a bad muffs expect I

534
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 5: gotta go to South after man, I'm you've been drenk.

535
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 9: I love it.

536
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: I love the behind the scenes stuff that the UFC

537
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: is starting to show a lot more often, not just

538
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: the audio and the cage between like the referee and

539
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: the fighters and these big moments. But I love shit

540
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: like this, you know. I love the iron shopping, iron ship.

541
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: I even like, is he on the tour right now

542
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: with all of he held Mark Goddard backstage? I mean,

543
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: is He's like, if.

544
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Speaker 4: You're willing to cash in on their reckless and insane views,

545
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 4: you're not allowed to then promote them as like humbled

546
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Speaker 4: and ordinary.

547
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Speaker 1: Okay maybe in this case, but in general, I like,

548
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: don't get to do all right, Well, what do you

549
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: make of Sean Strickland's up. He did a video after

550
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: after the fight. Let's let's hear that and then we

551
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: can close the topic on this. Hey, what have you guys?

552
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Speaker 5: We've been here once or twice. I'm so grateful for

553
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 5: you guys. Support man. You guys are so awesome' w

554
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,479
Speaker 5: gonna lose you guys always ride and I appreciate you.

555
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 5: Drake Man, help fight brop my nose nicely places silver

556
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 5: lining is. Our nose is so broken. It's really easy

557
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 5: to reset. So you know, how was a new experience.

558
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: But you know, I'll be quick.

559
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Speaker 5: I get so many message from fans, friends, family, like

560
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 5: hold your head up, it's okay, and you guys like

561
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 5: I'm good dude, Like losing sucks, but like we all

562
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 5: lose in life. And I talk to so many people,

563
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 5: you know, whether they lose your job, their girlfriend breaks

564
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 5: up with him, and they just find themselves in this hole.

565
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 5: But like me, I love the misery, like I love

566
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 5: the suffering, because when you're miserable, when you're in pain,

567
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 5: when you're when suffering, the moment that's gone and it

568
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 5: will end, and it will end and there will be

569
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Speaker 5: a new day, a better day. Life's good. So you know,

570
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 5: I'm grateful, and being grateful kind of keeps me, keeps

571
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 5: my head up and you know, for you guys going

572
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 5: through it, look at me.

573
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to give you a taste of that.

574
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Speaker 1: Is he trying to pivot into like guru like Tony

575
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: Robbins encourager or like is he just a multifacet individual?

576
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: Like?

577
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: Are you okay with that reaction? I know people want

578
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: a blood from him? Do you want more from him?

579
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: In that mind?

580
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 4: Have no problem with that reaction at all. I think

581
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 4: that reaction is normal. I mean, dude, he just got

582
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 4: his face smashed. He had to fly all over God's

583
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 4: Green Earth to go fight there. He had to fight

584
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 4: a very tough guy. It has to suck losing. I

585
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 4: don't have anything against him.

586
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 1: Is that the real him?

587
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 12: Though?

588
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: Is that him pulling the character back and actually showing

589
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: like a humble, hard working Probably is.

590
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 4: I mean again, I don't think Eric Nixon is a

591
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 4: crazy person. If Eric nixck likes him, there probably is

592
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 4: obviously something to him like this whatever. Yes, probably My

593
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: point is I don't judge it negatively, like, oh, you're

594
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 4: not a man. Of course, He's like again, he's a

595
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: very very very talented, tough guy in so many different ways.

596
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 4: But the reality is also it just didn't look like

597
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 4: he had a lot of competitive fire. Yeah, it didn't

598
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: look like he had a lot of competitive fire in

599
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Speaker 4: the fight. It didn't look like this loss was eating

600
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 4: him alive. And again, you don't want him someone moping

601
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 4: around or something like that. Not everyone has to be

602
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 4: Jose Aldo in the locker room after Connor starts him

603
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 4: in thirteen seconds, which was he was despondent. I'm not

604
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 4: saying that, but I'm just saying again, the total package

605
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 4: of things is. My best assessment is Sean Strickland is

606
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 4: a very very talented, skilled, experienced middleweight who has a

607
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 4: defensively oriented style, and he's a couple steps off from

608
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 4: the very best that this division has to offer. And

609
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 4: his fights, more often than not, are pretty boring. People

610
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: want it to be more than that.

611
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: It's just that, and I think that's it. I think

612
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: that's it's just. I think he'll fade away from the

613
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: title picture slowly. I would like to see him against Ezinext.

614
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: But we've got to pause to this Strickland discussion to

615
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: talk about the guy who won the fight. Luke Dricus Dupless,

616
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: his nine fight win streak within the UFC beginning with

617
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Speaker 1: his debut, is currently tied for third behind Islam and

618
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: Morob This was yet another title defense, yet another former

619
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Speaker 1: champion that he can add on now Strickland the second

620
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: time to his growing resume. Luke Thomas, he evolved from

621
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Speaker 1: that first fight. He's in great shape, He's coachable, he

622
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: carries out a great IQ. Yes he's slow and awkward

623
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: and lumbering, but he does that at full speed and

624
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: he never stops trying. He can mix in a takedown.

625
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: We're looking like at a guy we already knew coming

626
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: in one of the pound for pound best in this game.

627
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: What did we ultimately learn? What can we add on?

628
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: Sprinkle on after this performance?

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Speaker 4: He fought like a guy who believed he could win,

630
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 4: and you could see that from the opening bell. He

631
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 4: this is what's interesting about DDP to me. In this fight,

632
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: DDP gets a lot of criticism for the goofiness, and

633
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 4: some of it is well deserved, some of it is not,

634
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 4: but it's all part of the story there. But he

635
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 4: had a task, which was he thought that volume was

636
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: the key in the last fight and again he got

637
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: a little bit out volume, but it was the effective volume.

638
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: But he just tweaked that a little bit. He made

639
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 4: sure at kicking range he was firing at all times,

640
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 4: he was attacking the legs. He was going to the body.

641
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: If you actually look at the targeting by DDP in

642
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: this fight BC, he was nearly at one third to

643
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 4: the legs, one third to the body, and one third

644
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: to the head. He was giving himself maximum latitude to

645
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 4: find ways to just sneak in offense here there, here, there,

646
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 4: without being overly aggressive. He didn't have as many crazy

647
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 4: blitz as this time. His defense got better. He tweaked

648
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 4: it up. He did exactly what a championship fighter in

649
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: his position was supposed to do. It would have been

650
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 4: nice if you could put the opponent away. Okay, Sewn,

651
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 4: Stricklin's hard to put away, very tough, good defense.

652
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: We know you look close. He looks like he was

653
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: like one strike to the nose away a few times.

654
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 4: I mean again, once he broke the nose, he got

655
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 4: really close. I thought it might I thought it might

656
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 4: go there, and that would have been insanely impressive. But okay,

657
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: Sean toughed it out fine. But he did what like

658
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: this is what I mean. For all of the faults,

659
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 4: for all of the footwork being weird, for all of

660
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: the balance, for all of the leaving his feet to

661
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 4: leap into all this stuff, you just don't even know

662
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 4: if it works. And then at the end he keeps

663
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 4: getting his hand raised because he just has an attitude

664
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 4: of seek and destroy. Fine, turn over a rock, let

665
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: no stone be unturned.

666
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: It's a clutch gene. He knows how to win.

667
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: He had in an absolute clutch gene. And the clutch

668
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: ging is sometimes also defined as like you're down in

669
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: a hole and you gotta fight your way out. But

670
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: there's another version of clutch gene, which is I'm gonna

671
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: step on his neck from the get go.

672
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make better decisions and key moments that will

673
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: change the outcome of the Who.

674
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 4: Set the tone in that fight? Again, there were close rounds.

675
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 4: I grant who set the tone? It was fucking DDP

676
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 4: who set the tone. DDP was the one that basically

677
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 4: had Sean reacting to what he wanted to do, and

678
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 4: Sean could never really get out of second or third

679
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: gear the whole way. So you have to be careful

680
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 4: with what you can say as a result of this fight,

681
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: because the next opponent is so unlike.

682
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: The last one.

683
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's just hard to know what it will

684
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: all mean. But remember the central task we had for

685
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 4: both guys. DDP had to dial up what went right

686
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: in the last one. Sean had to find a new

687
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 4: gear one of the.

688
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: Try to be not racist in the process, just try.

689
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: Yet one of those guys did it and one of

690
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 4: them did not. It is just that simple. It is

691
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: that simple.

692
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: What a win for DDP and what a run that

693
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: he's currently on. So afterwards we assumed it would be

694
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: all about Hamasa chamayev Dana has intimated in the past

695
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: few weeks that Chamaiah would kind of automatically be next.

696
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: But then in the cage h Dracis Dupless did cut

697
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: like a quick promo on one poet, on Alex Pereira,

698
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: who was in the corner of Strickland. Of course they

699
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: have grown a friendship. Luke up. He addressed that after

700
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: the fight in terms of what would be next, But

701
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: it is interesting to think about the idea of him

702
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: moving up to two o five and facing Pereira. Not yet, though,

703
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: according to the champ Let's listen to DDP up to

704
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: you and he came to no.

705
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 13: Humsad's first first, no I wish him. I said, please

706
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 13: beat Uncle Ive. No, no, no hate against a Live.

707
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 13: I just want to beat Alex Perhea. It's nothing personal

708
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 13: against Uncle Live.

709
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: It was just the heerra.

710
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 6: It's he's such a.

711
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 13: Legend in the sport to me already that it would

712
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 13: be amazing to beat him for my legacy. I want

713
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 13: to be the greatest to ever do this. But Humsad's next.

714
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 13: Humsad is next. I want to make sure that this

715
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 13: belt the middleweight title, that there's no question that I'm

716
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 13: the goat of the middleweight division. And I know that.

717
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 13: You know you have Anderson Silver. In my mind, he

718
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 13: is the goat of this division. And you have Adasunya

719
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 13: who's done incredible things. But it's not about how many

720
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 13: just to defend. It's not who you find, how you

721
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 13: defend it, and how you've done it in what periods.

722
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: So Luke, this is kind of a smart move. He's

723
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: already planting the further seed. Now he's going to be

724
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: an a betting underdog of course against Tamaiev, who is

725
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: just streaking, and that's a fight we need to see.

726
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: But do you like this, because it was Ricas that

727
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: started this conversation that led to their backstage interaction that

728
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: he was just breaking down where pereires like, yeah, come

729
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: on up and let's do this kind of planting the

730
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: seed for future business. Not a smart not a dumb idea.

731
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: How do you feel this? Yeah, not a dumb idea.

732
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: But he's got work to do.

733
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 4: You know. I think if you beat hamsad obviously that

734
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 4: means many things, one of which is you can probably

735
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 4: call your shot after that, and then.

736
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to fight Alex, everyone in every division.

737
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: He has done so well for him, So it's kind

738
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 4: of funny. It's like Poeatime is getting called out like

739
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: crazy because he's the hot guy. And I thought that

740
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 4: Ilia had a better year because not he won more,

741
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 4: but because he had the better two wins. But you know,

742
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: he's not really getting called out like that in that

743
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: same kind of way. Alex is the guy that is

744
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 4: the destination. But nevertheless, I did like what DDP had

745
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 4: to say, which was, Okay, we got business against hamzat first,

746
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 4: but I swear to God, you go there and you bet.

747
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 4: I mean, let's be clear about this, and I want

748
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 4: to ask you this too. This brought him two title defenses,

749
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: one was against Izzy and now against Sean Strickland. That

750
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 4: ties him with Rich Franklin, who I think beat Evan

751
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: Tanner and David Luazzo. If he gets one more, that

752
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: would tie him with Wideman. But Widman's title defenses are Anderson,

753
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: who broke his leg in that fight, sure Machetah, which

754
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: is a good one, and then Vitor who looked like

755
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 4: he had been a deflated balloon after getting off of TRT,

756
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 4: had three minutes of fighting in him and then completely collapsed.

757
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: Did he have bitch tits too?

758
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 4: He didn't look great. He didn't look great. So I

759
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: gotta tell you. If your wins are Sean Strickland, Izzy

760
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: Isy by finish and if you can beat Hamzad, I

761
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 4: think you replace Wideman as the third best middleweight.

762
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: On that territory. He is knocking on that. Would you

763
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: put him bung on?

764
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: Luke? How would you compare what DDP had done at

765
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 4: middleweight relative.

766
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: To You're talking to a long islander here about Chris white.

767
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: Hold On, hold on, Chris Whiteman, Rich Franklin, that's.

768
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 7: A good question. Uh, do you think I think I

769
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 7: got to put DDP ahead of him because just overall

770
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 7: quality of work. Also, like Whittaker, wasn't a title defense,

771
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 7: but you have to remember he finished Whittaker too. Like

772
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 7: ddp's run right now at middleweight is actually crazy. If

773
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 7: he can if he can beat hams At, his stock

774
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 7: goes up.

775
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 6: If he can finish Hamzat.

776
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean, all right, let's just worry about the win

777
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: because if he beats tomst he's going to become one

778
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: of their biggest starts.

779
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 4: I just want to say, this is where DDP is now,

780
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 4: where I hold Rich Franklin's career in highest team. Now

781
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 4: I asked about his middleweight run. Part of what made

782
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: Rich Franklin great was he moonlighted at two of five

783
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: and got some great wins up there too.

784
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: You know, in a later stage of his.

785
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 4: Career picked out chucklate Dell with one arm, which is ridiculous.

786
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: And by the way, I thought he beat Dan Henderson

787
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 4: which was a controversial loss. But nevertheless, this is where

788
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: DDP is now. He is in the Rich Franklin territory.

789
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 4: That is no small fear. And I'm telling you, you

790
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 4: beat Hamsat and you are in super elite com.

791
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: That's not a given. Let's see Hamzat's reaction to the fight.

792
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: He jumped on the old cks. Biggest bullshit is this fight.

793
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: The fight was kind of gonna be s. But DDP

794
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: not bs. He's surging top five pound for pound, really

795
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: really doing big things. We don't talk about him in

796
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: terms of like if we say who are the stars

797
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: right now? Or who's on deck to be that John

798
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: Jones still a big star, but he's you know, at

799
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: the tail end, we're gonna say Tuporio, We're gonna say

800
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: hams out, We're gonna say Islam Max is still a

801
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: big name. But DP is coming on. Dude.

802
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 4: DDP was accidental for so long that I don't think

803
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 4: he really the worm didn't quite turn. But now what

804
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 4: he's doing is so undeniable. I think it might start

805
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 4: to build.

806
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: Now.

807
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 4: Of course, if he gets derailed against Hamsat, what are

808
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 4: you gonna do? But if he builds, I mean, I'll

809
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: tell you what if he beats Hamsat, If he if

810
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 4: DDP beats Hamsat, he's the next.

811
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: Big star in the company. Think about that.

812
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: Remember remember that interview we did before Gilbert fought Hamza

813
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 4: at one seventy and that interview blew up. There is

814
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 4: an electricity surrounding Hamza. Now, of course, if Homsa becomes champion,

815
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 4: I mean he's off to the racist times of thousand.

816
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 4: I think you would probably agree with that.

817
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: I would agree, But I'm.

818
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: Telling you if DDP beats him, he's the next big

819
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 4: star in this company.

820
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: That's like evil Habibe in a sense into like you know,

821
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: of trying to generically describe his his like pay per

822
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: view character of what you'd be selling all that like

823
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: villain version of the guy who can come in and

824
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: just own you fixing. Are I agree? Interesting stuff? Hey,

825
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: let's go to topic number two, and of course, what's

826
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: the co main event for UFC three twelve on Saturday

827
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: women Strawweight Titles Showdown that we talked of coming in

828
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: that had the potential to be a great fight. No,

829
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: it was one sided and what the gentleman on this

830
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: show thought coming in was dead freakin' wrong because Yongwae

831
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: Lee at age thirty five, dominated unbeaten Tatiana Suarez, ruining

832
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: the dream turnaround in story for the inactive and always

833
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: injured yet super elite fighter intres. This was five rounds

834
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: of exactly who Wayley is so Luke, we were wrong.

835
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: We were dead wrong. We established that Wayey looked like

836
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: the top pound for pound fighter. She looked like maybe

837
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: the best strawweight of all time. She is now ten

838
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: and zero against every strawweight not named ros Nama Yunis

839
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: outside of those two title defeats. So now that she's

840
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: one win away from tying Yanna's record for title defenses

841
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: at five and title wins in title fights with six,

842
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: is it time to start considering her as the one

843
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: fifteen got How do you deal with that with the

844
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: two Rose losses? Or does that not even matter? Let's

845
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: save her and enjoy what we saw, which was another

846
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: dominant performance from this great champion. I don't think you could.

847
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 4: I think you could argue now if you wanted to,

848
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: that she is the one to fifteen goat. I wouldn't

849
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: make the argument, not yet. I think you would probably

850
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 4: have to tie Yoanna because of some of the other

851
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: things that have happened to her with respect to Rose

852
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: and what that does to undercut it a little bit.

853
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: Only those those losses made her great.

854
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 4: They made her absolutely great, There's no question about it.

855
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 4: I was unsure of what we were going to get

856
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: in this fight. That's why I thought it was you know, again,

857
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 4: we had said that Tatiano Suarez didn't exactly earn it

858
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: because she had the Lamosh and Jenji Roba fight that

859
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 4: fell through, So the UFC matchmakers just pushed her to

860
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 4: the front.

861
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: Of the line.

862
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't mind that. But a couple of

863
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 4: rounds into this one, three rounds into this one, it

864
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 4: was pretty clear Suarez had absolutely nothing for her. This

865
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: was Big Bank, take Little Bank, eighty fos and candy paint,

866
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: my friends.

867
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: This was didn Swarz gas herself out, like by the

868
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: end of the second round, just by spamming the takedowns.

869
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: It was like she it wasn't the nuance that we expected.

870
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: And that's where the eighteen months left we probably didn't

871
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: talk about.

872
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: I mean, this is what's interesting to me about staying

873
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 4: with Jong Wi Lee. This is what's so fascinating. She

874
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 4: had a great team behind her. Jack Slack was joking

875
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 4: on Twitter, but it's not really a joke, which was

876
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: you know, maybe she's standing out from the pack because

877
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 4: her coach is not her boyfriend, right, she has a

878
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 4: real team behind her and at a five to still

879
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 4: be that good. I mean, dude, where was Suarez, who

880
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 4: is a vaunted wrestler with some good reason obviously, Where

881
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 4: was Suarez better than John Wiley? And the answer is nowhere.

882
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: There was nothing or she was better than her.

883
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: And when did you realize that? In the first round

884
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: when she had the long top top position control but

885
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: could not turn that into offense at all, I didn't.

886
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: It was too hard. It was too early to tell

887
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: what that meant at that round. But by the second round,

888
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 4: when she failed on four takedowns, and by the third round,

889
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 4: when she failed on five takedowns she went oh for

890
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 4: four to over five in rounds two and three, respectively,

891
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 4: that's when you knew it was over. Tatiano Suarez can

892
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: only win that fight if she can get the takedown.

893
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 4: If you deny her that, it simply goes away. She

894
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 4: was lucky to survive that one. To be quite honest

895
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 4: with you.

896
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: I mean, she showed incredible heart, but her face got

897
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: mangled by the end of that one.

898
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 4: This is what I mean, Like, let me pull something

899
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 4: up here if I can. I want to give me

900
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 4: just a second to look.

901
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: For no one's questioning her heart or her perseverance through everything.

902
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: But I just didn't see this one sided uh been coming.

903
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: In fact, I thought it was going to be the

904
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, the A and B games of Suarez winning

905
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: out even through a great, great fighter. But this story

906
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: turned out to be about how great Wayley actually is.

907
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: Right now, Look do you have that?

908
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 4: Uhh yes, I just wanted to give me just one

909
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 4: second here, I just wanted to look up something when

910
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 4: they've okay, So when they fought for that Fight of

911
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 4: the Year moment between Jong Way Lee and Yoanni and

912
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 4: j twenty twenty, Yo Wanna was just about thirty five.

913
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 4: She was thirty four in litt bit of change or

914
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: a bunch of change, just just shy of being thirty five.

915
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: Joan way Lee not only survived that, which was brutal

916
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 4: in both directions, she has continued since that time to

917
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: get better, beating Carlos bars At which whatever she finished

918
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 4: her off, and round two, beat a mandolaim Mos, beat

919
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 4: Jan Chiao Nan, and then just thoroughly dismantled Tatiana Suarez. Dude,

920
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 4: holy shit, that is unprecedented in women's MMA, with the

921
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 4: exception of Chris Cyborg, but certainly at the lower weight

922
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 4: classes for someone to be this advanced to have gone

923
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 4: through this much. Yes, she is now almost thirty pro

924
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 4: fights in her career. So think about all the damage,

925
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 4: all all the time, all the athleticism, and she had uh,

926
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 4: you know, the decline that is possible. And she didn't

927
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 4: look slow, she didn't look gassed, she didn't look technically overmatched.

928
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 9: Dude.

929
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 4: She is one of the most special fighters on that roster,

930
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 4: irrespective of weight class, irrespective of gender. Appreciate her while

931
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 4: she's still around. And by the way, I'm not even

932
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: sure who the fuck can beat her in that division. Yeah,

933
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 4: she's so good.

934
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: She may have to go to one north and we'll

935
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: talk about that. Here's a stat. This is since the

936
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: second nommer Unis loss. So not only was way solved

937
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: by first round head back to knockout, she then adjusted

938
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: her game and still lost the rematch. But since then,

939
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: look at this bronze stutter stat. In this five fight

940
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: win streak, she has outlanded her opponents eight hundred and

941
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: ninety to two hundred and fourteen. And when you look

942
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: at significant strikes that's four point fifty eight opposite one two.

943
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: It's not only been the striking. Look at what she

944
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: did to the spars of putting her in the crucifix

945
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: on the ground. Look at what she did to maybe

946
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: somebody I was saying was like female Habib, the greatest,

947
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: you know wrestler. We'd seen Women's MMA neutralize her wrestling

948
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: completely and make it difficult for her in the guards.

949
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: So that Suarez really, I mean she had like what

950
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: she had one choke attempt or was no, it was

951
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: the other way around.

952
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 4: It was I can tell you what five five metri

953
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: credited her with no attempts. By the way, I mean

954
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: she did sit for one, I think in the first second.

955
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, So think about it. Wayey beat her in

956
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: every single aspect of the game. So obviously a big

957
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: part of this is I was dead wrong. My expectations

958
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: were that Suarez, even with the injuries, even with the layoffs,

959
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: it was eighteen months coming into here that even though

960
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: I didn't think she had a game as complete as Wayley's,

961
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: I thought her strengths were going to show out more.

962
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: I was disappointed in the lack of ground and pounded

963
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: from the top position, whether that was her inefficiency or

964
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: maybe just the defense of way Lee. But once that

965
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: fight turned, it turned aggressively. Yes, we need to play

966
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: up everything here about way Lee and those stats are

967
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: just insane. But is this a disastrous, damaging loss for

968
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: Suarez in your eyes? Because not only did her a

969
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: game come up empty, she didn't show a B and

970
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: C game, and she took a beating, and with her

971
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: injury history like it compounded. You see the disappointment in

972
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: her face afterwards. My heart was broken for it. But

973
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like you the human interest

974
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: story of her coming back, but that was not a

975
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: performance that she can really be all that happy about.

976
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: So is this the type of situation where she's only

977
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: thirty four, she hasn't taken a ton of damage. If

978
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: she can stay healthy, she's still better than every other

979
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: strawweight out there. Or did you see a level of

980
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: diminished returns throughout this fight as it went on that

981
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: you question if she gets back to this level.

982
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any way she gets back to

983
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 4: this level. And you know, I mean if Jong Wai

984
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 4: l Wow.

985
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: Like automatically, you're like you think that she could beat

986
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: she would get beat by a lot of the other

987
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: top straoids. I don't know.

988
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 4: We'll talk about what's next for Zong w h Lee

989
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 4: I'm sure because there's questions about what she'll fight Shipchenko.

990
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 4: But like and again, in fairness to Suarez, she fought

991
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 4: one of the best female fighters on the planet on

992
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 4: Saturday night.

993
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but listen to these numbers.

994
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: This is the significant strikes that she landed Tachi on

995
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 4: a Suarez in rounds one through five. Ready for this,

996
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 4: zero zero, eight, three one.

997
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: And she hadn't shown striking that bad against other people.

998
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: It was this level of competition with the layoff. Like, dude,

999
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: she had nothing for.

1000
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 4: Her takedowns for Suarez rounds one through five. Ready, one

1001
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 4: of one, zero of four, zero of five, zero of

1002
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 4: zero because she was being controlled the whole time. Zero

1003
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 4: of five in round five. Dude, this was a massacre.

1004
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: This was a massacre. And again it's one thing to

1005
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 4: be well, you got masacred against the best in the world. Okay,

1006
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 4: fair enough, but the distance between them was significant. I

1007
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 4: mean significant to the point where the need for the fight.

1008
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: During the middle of it, I said to myself, we

1009
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 4: didn't need to see this, did you now, knowing what

1010
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 4: you know, did this need to happen?

1011
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: No?

1012
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: No, again, I'm not mad at you've seen matchmakers. We

1013
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 4: talked about this well in advance. Fair enough. They want

1014
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: to give somebody who was a top prospect at one

1015
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 4: point who has had a lot of bad luck and opportunity,

1016
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 4: which I appreciate and respect.

1017
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: Fine, But now that.

1018
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: It's happened, she had no Again, it's not like, well,

1019
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: one person was a better than the other. One is

1020
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 4: the sole determining factor. There was no ability to go

1021
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 4: to what you mentioned a B game. There was no

1022
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 4: ability to make adjustments.

1023
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: There was nothing. I can ask you the hard question.

1024
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: I got to cut you off and ask you the

1025
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: hard question. Then, was she never who we thought she was?

1026
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: Or was this just a horrible performance when she got

1027
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: to the top level. I think it's two things.

1028
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: One credit to Jean Wilie for just making a good

1029
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: fighter look bad.

1030
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: That's one.

1031
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 4: The second one is I think all the injuries and

1032
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: time off have made her great game static, and I

1033
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 4: think the rest of the game has, at least at

1034
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 4: the elite level anyway, caught.

1035
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: Up and passed. You know.

1036
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 4: And I got talking about this with Long Island Luke.

1037
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 4: It's like, it's very easy for me to say this.

1038
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 4: I sit in this chair, I ride a train to

1039
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 4: get up here, I have a very comfortable life.

1040
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: I've just avoided trains in college, but I understand the marines,

1041
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: you know.

1042
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 4: But the reality is, if you want to do ground

1043
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 4: and pound in modern MMA, you have to be a

1044
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: master of top pins and rides and risk control. And

1045
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 4: if you don't do that against a good opponent, your

1046
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: takedowns don't mean anything. So here was her problem. She

1047
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: got the takedown in the first round. She had three

1048
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 4: minutes of control time, she landed zero significant strikes. That

1049
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 4: was the round to like soften up, and she got

1050
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 4: nothing out of it. I mean, I guess she won

1051
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 4: the round or whatever, but in terms of like sticking

1052
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 4: it to an opponent, then she couldn't get any of

1053
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 4: the takedowns after that. And I'm gonna go back to it.

1054
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: Habib had bad striking. He did not have good striking,

1055
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: but he had top pins, rides and wrestling from the

1056
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 4: back to get to places where he could just absolutely

1057
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 4: lower the fuck you.

1058
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: But he wouldn't. He also wouldn't stand with you in

1059
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: those key moments early like he I.

1060
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 4: Mean the Gaateche fight a little bit he had to,

1061
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 4: you know, it was always like a little bit more

1062
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 4: he was. He was one of those way would you

1063
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 4: understand my point? It has to be the case if

1064
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 4: you want to be a wrestling first fighter male or female,

1065
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: heavy or light in modern MMA and twenty twenty five

1066
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 4: top pins and rides, and if you don't have them,

1067
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 4: there's no value to wrestling against someone this good.

1068
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: I know it was. It was tough to see she had.

1069
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: She had so much heart, she just didn't have the

1070
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: didn't have what she needed in that moment to pull

1071
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: it off. So we can show the she she I

1072
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: thought she was never the same by the way, after

1073
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: getting rocked with that right hand in the third round,

1074
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: I felt like she was kind of like almost out

1075
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: on her feet for a lot of that and she

1076
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: just gutted it through because she's so tough. But she

1077
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: also had this leg gash. Can we show this? I mean,

1078
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: apologies for the meme attached to it, but Luke, that

1079
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: was nasty. You don't usually see injuries break out like that.

1080
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: That was just another thing to try to deal with.

1081
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: Is that's what I mean? Everything went when against her?

1082
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 1: You know not I'm not saying I mean everything went wrong,

1083
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Ultimately, and to.

1084
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 4: Her credit, like Sean Strickland, she's tough, bro, She's tough

1085
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 4: as shit, there's no question, and just to and we

1086
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 4: should we should maybe take a moment though, because we're

1087
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 4: backing on her because it went real bad. It did

1088
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 4: go real bad, and there's simply no denying it. Like

1089
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 4: you have to evaluate the performance for what it is.

1090
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: But Suarez has always carried herself for the most part,

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Speaker 4: from what I can tell anyway, with great professionalism. Just

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00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 4: getting to this position was something of a minor miracle. Hell,

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Speaker 4: between her cancer diagnosis, her knee injuries, you neck injury,

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00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 4: that would neck injury, dude, just getting here was a legitimate,

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00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 4: kind of heartwarming achievement. But the problem is as good

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Speaker 4: of a moral victory as that was in terms of

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00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 4: the competitive readiness, bro, not dude, that was a like,

1098
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Speaker 4: not even remotely ready level.

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Speaker 1: Like a million bucks. Just her striking evolved, I mean,

1100
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: it was so crisp. The talk now, Luke, of course,

1101
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Speaker 1: is is there anyone left at strawweight, you know, whether

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00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: that be Durned or anyone we think that she should

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00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: hang around for or is it time to do what

1104
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: Wyley revealed during fight week she already thought she would

1105
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: have done move up and fight Valentina the potential problem here,

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00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: Luke menol Ferro is under and has passed all the

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00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: right steps and has now just been waiting for Chevchenko

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Speaker 1: to recover from injury coming off of the trilogy against

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Speaker 1: Alexa Grosso. So what does the UFC do? Do they

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00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: let Wayley cut the line? And do we have a

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00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: true number one versus two pound for pound on the

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Speaker 1: female side and Wayley getting the opportunity to become a

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00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: two division champion in a super fight against Chefchenko. They're

1114
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: both I guess, right around the same age. Even though

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00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: Wayley did tell John Annick that she's not thirty five,

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00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: her passport says she's thirty five, She's really thirty four

1117
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: and that the passport's wrong. Luke, here is Dana White

1118
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: dealing with this? Is this the fight to make? We'll

1119
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: talk about it.

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Speaker 11: But lots of people were texting me saying that Wayley

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Speaker 11: loses tonight and you know it's over and she was

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00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 11: an underdog, And I bet the casino's got murdered tonight

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Speaker 11: because I bet a lot of people threw money on Tatana.

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Speaker 11: But when you look at Wayley, she's one of the

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Speaker 11: greatest of all time, the best female fighter you know

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Speaker 11: in the sport right now and at the press conference,

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00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 11: you know, Tatiana was talking about what she was going

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Speaker 11: to do and what about her wrestling, and Wayley said,

1129
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 11: this isn't a wrestling match, this is a fight. And

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00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 11: she actually out wrestled Tatiana tonight and absolute stud and

1131
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 11: such a huge, huge star in China for US trending,

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Speaker 11: she trended uh. I want to say, she trended number

1133
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 11: one like four times during fight week, one hundred million

1134
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 11: views just on UFC platforms uh in China and tonight

1135
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 11: she was trending number one in all the big territories

1136
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 11: for US, so huge star.

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Speaker 5: I would assume then that you would look to bring

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Speaker 5: her to China at some point in the future.

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00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: So I must have had the wrong sound specifically, but

1140
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: he's open to the idea potentially. Basically was like, we'll

1141
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: wait and see about doing what I said, Chef Chenko

1142
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: Waye now or do you make them allow them both

1143
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: to defend who they have to and that would be

1144
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: mono for at one twenty five, who's next in line?

1145
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: And do you push that as like a late twenty

1146
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: five super fight.

1147
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,479
Speaker 4: I would feel bad for Minal Fierro.

1148
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: I think who's not young either just to be fair arms.

1149
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 4: And for that reason, she's earned it and she should

1150
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 4: get the title shot next. But like business is going

1151
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 4: to be a if not a determining factor, the determining factor.

1152
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: And people love Wayey already. And then you hear Dana

1153
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: talking about the specific thing she's hitting metric wise, as

1154
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, almost an ambassador at MMA in China. That's

1155
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: why I'm shocked that that they didn't do the Yan

1156
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: Shannan fight in China. But then again, they did do

1157
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: it as the Comaine do UFC three hundreds. So she

1158
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: has been put in situations to succeed, and Whaley has

1159
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: hit home runs. Dude, that's a big ass fight. It's

1160
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: a big fight you can talk yourself into like the

1161
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: winner is the goat if you want, Like you know

1162
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like there's there's certain you can make

1163
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: that feel even bigger than it is to.

1164
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 4: Be the second woman to get a Champ Champ status

1165
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 4: after Amanda Nunez, and then to doing it in much

1166
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 4: tougher divisions because one thirty five obviously that's pretty cool.

1167
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 4: Was just you know, fucking math teachers and lunch ladies

1168
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 4: ain't that not the women that.

1169
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: And going through somebody like Chef Chenko, Like come on, like,

1170
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, you have to ask yourself, what would Waley

1171
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: have to do to surpass Amanda Nunas and Cyborg you know,

1172
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: a top of the list on the female side all

1173
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: the time. She might have a road to get there,

1174
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: she might. I mean, yeah, Marley, yeah, And I mean

1175
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: if you become a two division champion and you go

1176
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: through Chefchenko to do so in your second division, that

1177
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: that's that's massive. I mean, that's exactly what Noon has

1178
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: did essentially by moving up and then going through side exactly.

1179
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 4: So to me, like to me, you're still at a

1180
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 4: place where with a win like this, Jeong didn't transform

1181
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 4: how we understood her or necessarily her place in the sport.

1182
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 4: But what it signals, what it telegraphs as possible in

1183
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 4: the future. Given by the way, I want to be

1184
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 4: clear about this, at age thirty five, she still appears

1185
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 4: to have most of her athletic gifts. She still looked

1186
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 4: pretty quick to me, she looked faster on the feet

1187
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 4: than Suarez. Well, by the way, I was also thirty

1188
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 4: four and some change wasn't like he was young, sure,

1189
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 4: but I just want to point out, like at thirty

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00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 4: five for Yoanni and j Chack, she was kind of

1191
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 4: on the way out and that was a brutal fight

1192
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 4: that kind of pushed her on the way out at

1193
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 4: thirty five here for Jong Wi Lee, she still looks

1194
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 4: real close to her physical best and her skill advantage

1195
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 4: now is becoming hard to deny.

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00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: She's more dangerous now also as a striker than she

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00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: ever was. And I think that you need power to

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Speaker 1: carry late into your career into your late thirties. J

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Speaker 1: want To never had the power, especially when she's moving

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00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: up to one twenty five, so that was always going

1201
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: to be sort of a roadblock on her limitations. Wayley

1202
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: has the well rounded you know, Joanna was also somewhat

1203
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: one dimensional as a striker. Wayley can do it all.

1204
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: So we are talking about someone who could be on

1205
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: the path to being the greatest. We are talking about

1206
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: somebody who's in the conversation right now. I was teeing

1207
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: up a question, is it valor Wayley right now? For

1208
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: pomp for pond number one? Is there is there a

1209
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: debate here? Does it matter where you at four of

1210
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: the women? But right now, yeah, I gave it back

1211
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: to Val after she beat at the Sphere when she

1212
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: won in the trilogy. I might still give it to Val.

1213
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: I have to think about that, probably because she's been well,

1214
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 4: she hasn't been that active either, I would probably still

1215
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 4: give it. I would probably still give.

1216
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: It to Shifchenko.

1217
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 4: But yes, I mean again this the wind doesn't necessarily

1218
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 4: transform anything. But my confusion was I just didn't know

1219
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 4: where she was in all of this and getting by

1220
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 4: the way. It wasn't like she went in there and

1221
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 4: blasted her out in thirty seconds. You got twenty five

1222
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 4: minutes of Jhoang Wailie being comprehensively good. Yes, that's the

1223
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 4: thing to me. It's like, dude, we're not even close

1224
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 4: to done with her yet. Okay, let's see what we

1225
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: can do here.

1226
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's also really cool too, you know what I mean.

1227
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: She doesn't know about that, but okay, she might be.

1228
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, there is a language bar unless

1229
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: she's trying hard. She's trying hard to come around on

1230
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: the English side. I think she was getting English language

1231
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: instruction from her corner. Yeah, I'm not mistaken.

1232
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 4: I think as well, she might not be too far.

1233
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: Thank you very much on that topic, to pause UFC

1234
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: on a second, Luke, I wanted to talk to you

1235
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Speaker 1: about something childhood. Okay. I always used to say that

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Speaker 1: there's six food groups as a kid, and they'd always

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Speaker 1: be like, well, what's the six? I said, no, you

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Speaker 1: favorite food. I'd love to sustain a mostly cereal diet

1240
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Speaker 1: as an adult. But it's hard, Luke, It's hard to

1241
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Speaker 1: go back and purchase those nostalgic brands knowing the sugar

1242
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Speaker 1: content and the lifestyle, the healthy lifestyle I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: fueling type of way and the type of way that

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Speaker 1: can work with your cob carb conscious diet in a

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Speaker 4: and I have no problems giving it to or because

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Speaker 4: how about their protein treats as well. I love those

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Speaker 4: for a snack in the middle of the day, and

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Speaker 1: And here's the deal on the cereal. Okay, every serving

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Speaker 1: let's move on to topic number three. Luke, it's the

1277
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: undercard of UFC three twelve. It's brother Toporia and everyone else.

1278
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: But I do have a specific question for you, because

1279
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, you came on here last week and we're

1280
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: very vocal, and you said, if you don't agree with me,

1281
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: you're wrong on the idea that UFC three twelve maybe nubs,

1282
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: but it may not be the nubsiest, especially compared to

1283
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: the re Odd Fight Night card that was very strong

1284
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: the week before it was strong. It's not that strong.

1285
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: So Luke, you talked, you talked a lot of she

1286
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: at right that it wasn't that bad. But now I

1287
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: feel like you're not just wrong. I feel like it's

1288
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: time for you to come out and willingly apologize and

1289
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: change your tune again after one of the worst pay

1290
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: per view cards in recent memory. No disrespect to the

1291
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: one side of performances of the two champions atop the bill,

1292
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,959
Speaker 1: but Luke, this was this was a little budget UFC

1293
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: pay per view, and we knew that on paper coming in.

1294
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: It played up to those expectations, outside to some storylines

1295
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: that will cover on the undercard. But you know, will

1296
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: you admit and get on team BC and Long Island

1297
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: Luke here along with team MK fan and just say, look, folks,

1298
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: I didn't have the information. I didn't have the science

1299
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: in front of me. I was wrong.

1300
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 4: No BC, Well halfway, yes, halfway, yes BC, let's go.

1301
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the UFC Saudi card. Who did Hamdi

1302
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 4: abdel wah Hob beat? This is your point you, I'm

1303
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: not asking you who do you beat in the opening

1304
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 4: fight of the night I didn't watch.

1305
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: Still not winning the argument with this.

1306
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 4: Strategy, I'm not. I'm hardly done.

1307
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: I love who did this one? You should be able

1308
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: to get horror guy? What? Okay?

1309
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 4: Who did Terrence McKinney beat?

1310
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: Right?

1311
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 4: Who did Shamil gazy f beat?

1312
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: You're not winning the argument though, You're you're just exposing

1313
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: that the bad undercards.

1314
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 4: Apparently getting going? Who did Mohammad Naimov beat?

1315
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: Still? Not right? Okay? So still I mean I can't

1316
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: hold on. Let le's let you card on save.

1317
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 4: So that we do this all right?

1318
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: You are done? I would love to do two way man.

1319
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: Combat with you. You asked me a question, May I

1320
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: answer it? Is that?

1321
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 4: Okay?

1322
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: With you?

1323
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't just mean combat talk, I mean actual man.

1324
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 4: Okay. There were two points to the argument I made

1325
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 4: last week. You can look this up. It's okay. One

1326
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 4: was I wasn't sure about the main card, but I

1327
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 4: thought it would be better. Not because I thought the

1328
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 4: first three fights of the main card were better, but

1329
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 4: because they had two title fights and I thought, well,

1330
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 4: there's reason for optimism there. I will beat you halfway.

1331
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 4: That main card sucked ass. It was terrible, and as

1332
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 4: I just mentioned, the first three fights were I don't know,

1333
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 4: fine but forgettable, too bad or something.

1334
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean.

1335
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: The Jake Matthews fight.

1336
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: Was whatever got out to tell us and to share

1337
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: though that have you.

1338
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was whatever.

1339
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean. He at least he got the job done quickly. Right,

1340
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: We can agree with that.

1341
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 4: But then, as I mentioned, after three rounds of the comine,

1342
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 4: I was like, dude, this is fucking why are we

1343
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 4: watching this? This is no there's no need for this fight.

1344
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 4: And then when Strickland didn't turn it up in the

1345
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 4: main event, I was extremely like, Okay, that main car

1346
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 4: was terrible, but there were two parts that I was making.

1347
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 4: One was the prelim card of UFC three twelve had

1348
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 4: a lot of gems on it, which I think, for

1349
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 4: the most part, actually ended up being quite true. Cody

1350
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 4: the Steel and Wrong Jew put on an awesome fucking

1351
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 4: fight of which there really isn't quite the equivalent on

1352
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 4: the Saudi card, certainly not on the prelimbs, not even close.

1353
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 4: And there was more gems than beyond it. Alexand let

1354
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 4: me finish, Oh my Lord Jesus Christ.

1355
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: The TV show where we talked back and forth, I

1356
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: don't understand what were you understand emotions from you?

1357
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: If we constantly get to a point where the argument

1358
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: never gets delivered, you actually can't debate me. In order

1359
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 4: to debate me, I have to give it to you,

1360
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 4: and then you have to give it to me back.

1361
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: I have to have room to be able to actually talk, though.

1362
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 4: And you asked me a question, b c am I

1363
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 4: allowed to defend myself. He literally structured a question on

1364
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 4: the show about asking me to apologize.

1365
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: I have a right to defend myself. I would love

1366
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: to hear it. Okay.

1367
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 4: The two arguments were, as I mentioned, the prelim card

1368
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 4: for three twelve. I said it last, it is better.

1369
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 4: Sure enough, it was better. The main card, I thought,

1370
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 4: on paper had enough to be better. It didn't deliver.

1371
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: In the end.

1372
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 4: The main card was certainly worse. So about that, I

1373
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 4: don't deny, but I think it's very wrong to go

1374
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 4: back and be like, oh, the UFC Saudi card top

1375
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 4: to bottom was great. No, it wasn't. That prelim card

1376
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 4: was ass and this one was pretty good.

1377
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: But that wasn't the argument. It was the argument. Yes,

1378
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: the argument was which one is better? It wasn't the

1379
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: argument of which what does that mean?

1380
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 4: Which one is better? What does that mean? Which one?

1381
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 4: How are we defining one?

1382
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: Are we defining it the whole card or the main card?

1383
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: Which card was better? On paper? That was the argument,

1384
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: and the answer was.

1385
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 4: The main event for Saudi ended up being vastly better,

1386
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 4: in part because it was much shorter. I mean, I

1387
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 4: can certainly say that, fine, but you have to assess

1388
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 4: the full breadth of the card. The full breadth of

1389
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 4: the card, certainly on the prelium side, is vastly better

1390
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 4: than the Saudi one. The Saudi prelim card was for

1391
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 4: the most part not totally butt cheeks. This one.

1392
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: You couldn't even name a single opponent of all these

1393
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: picked out fights and names that I win will because

1394
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: they were because they're all from the Danaoy Contender series,

1395
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: and no one sort of them before order.

1396
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 4: I went literally, but that doesn't.

1397
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: Win the argument. Just because you found a loophole, you're

1398
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: taking the fun out of this. It was supposed to

1399
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: be you defend yourself, but now it's like this, like

1400
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: like you're ready to fight in back. I'm simply defending.

1401
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 4: I agree that the main card for three twelve was asked,

1402
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 4: you were going to say something.

1403
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 7: I wanted to chime in a few times I remember specifically.

1404
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 7: I just want to say we were going on how

1405
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 7: it looked on paper, which to me means like name

1406
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 7: value do I do I recognize these names?

1407
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 6: Have they fought in the UFC before?

1408
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 7: And I still feel like Saudi had more name value

1409
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 7: to it, therefore a better card again, better in quotation.

1410
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 4: Again, the Saudi main card one more time. IM evov Izzy,

1411
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 4: which ended up being great, short but great page Mecca

1412
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 4: made off fun thought.

1413
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: I would agree.

1414
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 4: Pavlovich rosenstrike complete ass right, but on paper.

1415
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 6: Right, We're talking on paper, not in execution.

1416
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 4: Fue but modestly interesting on paper. Vnissius Olivera versus Siety

1417
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 4: number got made off. That's a hardcore delight. Again we're

1418
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 4: talking about what it was on paper.

1419
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: That's fine, fine, it was the fight of the night.

1420
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 4: It was a war on paper. You just told me

1421
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 4: on paper, not what it delivered on paper. You just

1422
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 4: used the argument that I couldn't say paper, but as the.

1423
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: Previous week, you wouldn't anoint it as fun.

1424
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 4: You said it that it's fine, and then Freezem versus

1425
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 4: Mike Davis. Fine on paper actually ended up being weird

1426
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 4: but kind of good in the end. I guess Davis

1427
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 4: had a weird performance because apparently everyone was inhaling paint fumes.

1428
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: Main Card to Main Card Saudi better Prelim to Prelim

1429
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 4: three twelve Maine will value more obviously than pre Lim,

1430
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 4: so overall Saudi wins.

1431
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: But I just want to be clear. So you lost

1432
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: the argument. That's all we wanted you to say was.

1433
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 4: Main Card to Main Card Saudi was ended up being better.

1434
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 4: But how could I make that argument? How could anyone

1435
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 4: make the argument until you actually watch it play out.

1436
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 4: So let me ask you this. I have a question

1437
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 4: the first three fights, they go exactly as they went.

1438
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 4: What if the and Comaine had been not even great

1439
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 4: but like good.

1440
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: Oh it's it always is tilted toward what people leave with.

1441
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: That's why the main event is so important. That's why,

1442
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: like sometimes one great finish and a bad in a

1443
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: main event that's bad on paper can save the whole night.

1444
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: We all know that. So yes, that would have changed

1445
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: a lot. This was a confluence of worst case scenarios

1446
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: that just bubbled together. But it's also the risk you

1447
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: take when you're matchmaking, not just fight nights in the

1448
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: Apex underwhelmingly, but now these pay per view cards. I mean,

1449
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: it's tough, it's it's it's rough. I don't I don't

1450
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: like this trajectory. We're watching the product get watered down

1451
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: more and more, and it's it's making me angry. Although

1452
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: this set up to this segment was to try to

1453
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: make you angry, and our debate over well last week

1454
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: when you said if you disagree with me, you're just wrong,

1455
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: the reality is I'm nervous that we're only continuing down

1456
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: that slit.

1457
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 4: That's how much how much do you consider how bad

1458
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 4: three twelve main card was was.

1459
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: Here's my question.

1460
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 4: How much of how much it sucked was bad luck.

1461
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: That makes sense only to a certain degree because you

1462
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: matched those fight.

1463
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 4: Those are seconds when the Swar has fight we got,

1464
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 4: like again with the Swars fight that ended up not

1465
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 4: being great, right, But I don't blame the matchmakers they

1466
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 4: I don't.

1467
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: Even blame them for the way that fight played out

1468
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: because at least it was interesting and there's something to

1469
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: talk about and we learned something important between two true elites.

1470
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: There just wasn't elites on this card, you know what

1471
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like there was like the amount of rank

1472
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: card somebody put There was a couple of people that

1473
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: put out those tweets that are filled with the stats

1474
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: telling you how bad this card actually was on paper.

1475
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: There was like the amount of ranked fighters, the amount

1476
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: of this, the amount of that, And it's it's eye

1477
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: opening and it's becoming the norm. It's not just oh,

1478
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: after three hundred, We're gonna kind of punt on three

1479
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: oh one and hopefully no one complains too much, but

1480
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: we'll be back now. It's starting to be a little

1481
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: too regular, is what I'm saying. And that's that's again

1482
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: my hope for the card.

1483
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 4: Last week was you know, for the main card, I

1484
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 4: thought it would turn out a little bit better.

1485
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: It didn't.

1486
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 4: It turned out bad. I mean, there's simply no question

1487
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 4: it turned out bad. You and I were in agreement,

1488
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 4: like when that fight was halfway through, we're like, oh

1489
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 4: my god, just end this already. But I said, there

1490
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 4: was talented prospects from Oceana all up and down that car. Dude,

1491
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 4: they performed fucking well.

1492
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: Let's hit a few of the high notes, although not

1493
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: from Oceana. I'm sure people want to know what you

1494
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: thought about bannamweight twenty nine year old trainer and brother

1495
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: of Ilio Tuporia, his older brother. Yeah, Alexandre, who went

1496
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: out there against a late replacement, but somebody who trains

1497
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: with Volkanovski, someone with a real gas tank in thickness

1498
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: and and you know, was not It was kind of

1499
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: patient and technical, in tentative, but showed us that, like,

1500
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: he's pretty damn good. Here. Were you as fired up

1501
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: in the manned space for older brother as you were

1502
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: for the main man.

1503
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say as much in the man space, but

1504
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty good. I think that for me,

1505
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 4: the lesson I took from this fight was. He was

1506
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 4: not overwhelming, but remember he had been inactive to the

1507
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 4: older Taporio brother, he'd been inactive for quite some time.

1508
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 4: He didn't have much experience overall to begin with.

1509
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: Is the true they I was trying to listen to

1510
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: what their story, but I was in and out the TV.

1511
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: Did he like pause his career to train his brother

1512
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: for a long portion? Yes? He did? Okay, kind of

1513
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: like the Glovekin brothers were one. They were twins, right,

1514
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: and they had to decide which one was going to

1515
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: pursue it and the other one would just support.

1516
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 4: What's the brother's name, Max?

1517
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: Max? Okay?

1518
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 4: In any case, I thought he was super solid and precise.

1519
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 4: Those body shots the right hands to the body were awesome.

1520
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 4: How about the souplex with the pin fantastic. He didn't

1521
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 4: get hit with hardly anything.

1522
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: And check out the still I ride. I mean that

1523
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: was fans.

1524
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 4: All of that was great. It wasn't overwhelming. He didn't

1525
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 4: put the guy away. But my thought is it's your

1526
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 4: UFC debut. You haven't fought in a long time. Getting

1527
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 4: a solid win and looking good doing it is probably

1528
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 4: the most you need to do. Anyway, If you look

1529
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 4: at his younger brother's early UFC fights. He's got firepower,

1530
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 4: but they're not necessarily like, Oh, I know this guy's

1531
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 4: going to be a champ from it. So I thought

1532
01:06:58,520 --> 01:06:58,959
Speaker 4: that was great.

1533
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: I will say this that kid Colby Thickness. First of all,

1534
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: great name. I mean, that's just an awesome name. Could

1535
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: be a stripper's name. Could be a stripper's name. Magic

1536
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: Mike up in this K C Cannon like that for sure,

1537
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: Big Dick Nick.

1538
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 4: He he did not look like a plus athlete to

1539
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 4: me on tape or in the fight, but dude, he

1540
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 4: just chips away at the opponents and every once in

1541
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 4: a while he would sneak stuff.

1542
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: He's kind of a berserker, but there's kind of a

1543
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: method to his madness.

1544
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 4: He just tried. He's got a little bit of DDP

1545
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 4: and I'm just keep trying stuff. So I kind of

1546
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 4: appreciated that. Kong Wang or Tong Wing did pretty good.

1547
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 4: Tom Nolan, I thought looked awesome, dude. How about Gabriel Santos.

1548
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: I was going to bring him up next. So he

1549
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: rallied back against Jack Jenkins in which he was dropped

1550
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: by a head kick, and then yet in the third

1551
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: round he gets the overwhelming was a tap out at

1552
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: the end, but he the BA but like it was

1553
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: a physical he grabbed that fight by the scruff and

1554
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: took over. Uh. I mean he looks like a finisher.

1555
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: He looks like he's got I mean, didn't he have

1556
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: Olaver in this corner? He kind of had that that

1557
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: like magic edge to him where it's like when the

1558
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: opening is, I'm gonna see it.

1559
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 4: How olivera of him to get rocked, survived and then

1560
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 4: choke the opponent out from the back.

1561
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: Rezilions built differently, the resilions are just built.

1562
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 4: They're tough as shit. They're fucking tough as shit. So

1563
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 4: I thought that was Jack Jenkins, by the way, his

1564
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 4: record at this point simply doesn't reflect it, but he

1565
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 4: is a very skilled, good opponent. And for Gabriel Santos

1566
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 4: to rally the way he did and then shows such

1567
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 4: skill kind of draining the life out of Jack Jenkins

1568
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 4: slowly through the second and ultimately succumbing to the chok

1569
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 4: in the back from the third, I thought that was awesome.

1570
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 4: So I've really had uh. I thought there was a

1571
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 4: lot of gems is a strong word, but something something

1572
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 4: to like on the prelim card.

1573
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: I agree and Talison to Share had taken out Justin

1574
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: Tough on thirty five seconds. He's got a dad bod.

1575
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: He's like six foot eight, he's now what eight and

1576
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: oh with eight finishes in the first round on island. Look,

1577
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: can we get really excited about this guy or is

1578
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,839
Speaker 1: he just facing like you know that the heavy everyone

1579
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: there's like four good heavyweights and then it falls down off.

1580
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1581
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can get excited yet. But

1582
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: he looked good.

1583
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 7: I want to give a shout out to uh Jonathan mckayliff.

1584
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 7: It was the second fight of the night. Kevin Joe

1585
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 7: Say put a beating on him. He looked really good.

1586
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,919
Speaker 7: And Quillan salkilled first fight of the night. Yes, nineteen second.

1587
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 4: Okay, but he fought a guy who lost a fight

1588
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 4: to Barking. I mean, what are we doing here?

1589
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 7: I'm not saying it was quality When he looked damn

1590
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 7: good though, I thought that shit was going there.

1591
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 4: Did you remember that Anhel Jubilee in his last fight

1592
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 4: before this one. I think he was beating up on

1593
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 4: the kid and then the kids started just.

1594
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 6: Borrowing Mike breedon Mike.

1595
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: Oh yes, and he.

1596
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 4: Started barking in his face, and Jubilee just collapsed, couldn't

1597
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,480
Speaker 4: fight any longer and lost that shit as a consequence.

1598
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: I do remember that, and that was so that part

1599
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: of the car.

1600
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 4: I skipped that portion of the car. But the wrong

1601
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:40,879
Speaker 4: Jew win over Cody Steele, Dude, wrong Jew. I slept

1602
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 4: on him completely in this one.

1603
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 7: I just want to say, I said before the card

1604
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 7: started that was going to be fight of the night,

1605
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 7: and it was.

1606
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 4: It was all so Cody Steele, great chin. I think

1607
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 4: his wrestling is better than what he showed, but dude,

1608
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 4: if he doesn't clean up that striking defense, his career

1609
01:09:58,960 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 4: is not going to be too long.

1610
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 7: It was kind of frustrating, dude, because I feel like

1611
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 7: he could have taken wrong as You down and choked them.

1612
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: I agree, but he didn't. I also could come back

1613
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: win for Wing Tong, but her opponent Bruna Brazil, was

1614
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: like literally running away from punches for like a round

1615
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: and a half.

1616
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 4: It was I thought, after the end of the second

1617
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 4: coming into the third, oh, this is about to be over,

1618
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 4: and it just kept going.

1619
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: So it was that was that was That was a

1620
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: weird development. Quickly to close on this car, Dana took

1621
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: to the microphone and took it went after the Aussie media,

1622
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: even though the city of Sydney in the New South

1623
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: Wales government probably made a pretty penalty to get them there.

1624
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: Though here's Dana White.

1625
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 11: I thought that was fucking hilarious doing It's ridiculous.

1626
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 10: We don't even lick the pipe.

1627
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 11: Yeah, but listen for a place that is so tough

1628
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 11: and and the people, everything on land and the water

1629
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 11: can kill you. You have the biggest pussies I've ever

1630
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 11: seen in the media in my life. I saw a

1631
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 11: story where a guy was like, I saw Dana do

1632
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 11: a podcast with the premiere and it physically made me sick.

1633
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 11: Holy fucking shit. You guys have to have the biggest

1634
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 11: pussies of all time in the media.

1635
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: Here just for the reck. That's pretty aggressive. Luke. Yeah,

1636
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: apparently not liking racism is weakness. I didn't know that.

1637
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Free speech baby.

1638
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 4: Yeah again once again, do you want to say crazy

1639
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 4: things about Hitler, I know just the place that will

1640
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 4: employ you. But if you want to say I think

1641
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 4: monopoly is bad, well, yeah, I don't know if you're

1642
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 4: gonna be around too long.

1643
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting stuff. Hey, speaking to Dana. Let's go

1644
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,759
Speaker 1: to topic number four, and it's an interesting headline. TKO

1645
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 1: Group's Ari Emmanuel teasing Dana White's potential hope of not

1646
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: just coming into boxing, teaming up with Turkey La Chic

1647
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: and potentially having some form of a prospect league, but

1648
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: that abolishing the Muhammad Ali Act would be part of that. Now.

1649
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: Conceived in nineteen ninety six, inactive in the year, enacted

1650
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: in the year two thousand, the Ali Act was created

1651
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: to try to protect the fighters' rights welfares to aid

1652
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: state commissions and giving them the power to keep things

1653
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: clean and the idea that a manager and a promoter

1654
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: can't be the same gig that type of stuff, and

1655
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: et cetera. So, Luke Thomas, let's quickly play this Aria

1656
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: manual sound on the Pat McAfee show at the Super

1657
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: Bowl this week, which is where what brought this topic

1658
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: to light.

1659
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, it seems like you do everything, you own everything.

1660
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 10: Is there anything that you could tell us that you

1661
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 10: want to get into that maybe you haven't dipped your

1662
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 10: toe into yet in the business world, sports, whatever it

1663
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 10: may be.

1664
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 3: But we're starting to talk about boxing, okay, and so

1665
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 3: we're gonna.

1666
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 10: With Dana dat he's been talking about doing it boxing

1667
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 10: for a long time.

1668
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 3: We're kind of looking at that right now.

1669
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 10: And can you revive boxing? Where is boxing right now?

1670
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 10: I guess compared to maybe twenty years ago.

1671
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 3: Well, I think he got the ALI Act that I

1672
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 3: think heard it. Hopefully, who knows what's gonna happen with

1673
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 3: the Ali Act. And then Dana's got a plan for boxing.

1674
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 3: We'll see, you know, there's a lot of work, a

1675
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 3: lot of wood that's got to be chopped there, but

1676
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 3: we're looking at it pretty serious.

1677
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 10: Hey, that's a that would make sense with the TKO

1678
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 10: group obviously wrestling fighting boxing in there. And I don't

1679
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 10: know how much how much is there a collaboration between

1680
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 10: those two companies with you or are they just.

1681
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 3: You know, the back office. We saved a lot of

1682
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:11,799
Speaker 3: money and kind of got more efficient, you know there.

1683
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: Had they would go on to talk about the business here.

1684
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: But Luke, you heard he didn't like say outright, we're

1685
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: going to team up with Donald Trump, our friend and

1686
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: abolished the ALI Act. But there was an acknowledgment in

1687
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: the idea that that is something that they believe has

1688
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: been bad for boxing, and Dana would look to be

1689
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: a part of removing it. So here's the key question.

1690
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: By removing that architect that the that legislator enacted to

1691
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: protect boxers, how dangerous would this be for the future

1692
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: of the boxing Knowing that as we feel like Dana

1693
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: and Turkey's concept here for this Prospect League would kind

1694
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: of be coming in with the UFC model on try

1695
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: to trying to control the sport monopolistically. How dangerous is

1696
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: that to the future of boxing at large?

1697
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 4: And it is existential? It is existential. Uh, let me

1698
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 4: just be clear as I possibly can be. If any

1699
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 4: boxers or boxing managers or promote are watching this, this

1700
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 4: is a flashing red light. They're coming for you. They're

1701
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 4: coming for you. Understand. I know that inside boxing that

1702
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 4: people think the ALI Act doesn't do anything because it's

1703
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 4: actually in addition to the Professional I think Boxing Safety

1704
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 4: Act of ninety six. But so there are let's be clear,

1705
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 4: what would it even mean to repeal the Oliact. Well,

1706
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 4: it would really depend on how it was done. Would

1707
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 4: they introduce new legislation, would they keep certain parts of

1708
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 4: it and then not keep other parts? But let me understand,

1709
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 4: let me just explain to you what's happening here a

1710
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,959
Speaker 4: monopoly that has wanted to get into boxing, that basically

1711
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 4: has never done it, is now saying they want to

1712
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 4: strip out the one law that is basically stopping them

1713
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 4: from doing it so that they can get into boxing

1714
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 4: if this law is repealed, as we understand it right,

1715
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 4: and I'm going to say what it does. It does

1716
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 4: it prevents managers from being promoters. You can't, as a

1717
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 4: promoter offer a contract where you say, hey, if you

1718
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 4: sign with me, I'll give you a title shot. You

1719
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 4: got to sign for five years. That is illegal. By

1720
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 4: the way, there's a legal mechanism in there if it

1721
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 4: wants to be enforced. Of course, there's jail time and fines,

1722
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 4: but that's an enforcement mechanism just built into the law.

1723
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,799
Speaker 4: But the big part is it codifies that the promoter

1724
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 4: cannot own the titles at the sanctioning bodies. If they're

1725
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 4: going to rank a guy, they have to explain why

1726
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 4: their ranking position moved. And of course it also deals

1727
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 4: with financial transparency. This is the reason if someone asks

1728
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 4: you why do boxers make more than MMA fighters? This

1729
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 4: is the reason. I mean, there's a few couple other ones,

1730
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 4: but this is basically the law that keeps the barbarians

1731
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 4: at the gate.

1732
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: It was created because of decades of fighters being used

1733
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: by promoters getting you know, screwed financially. All.

1734
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 4: I've said this before on this show, and I'm gonna

1735
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 4: say it one more time. But I'm gonna get a

1736
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 4: little twist here. People keep saying boxing is broken, and

1737
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 4: it is, and I have always said it's because they

1738
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:49,799
Speaker 4: broke it on purpose.

1739
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: Guys. No one put the ALI Act in.

1740
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 4: Place and arranged the product that way because they thought

1741
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 4: BC that was the best way for boxing to operate

1742
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:04,440
Speaker 4: just as a sports entity. They did it to minimize

1743
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 4: or stop corruption or undo monopolistic influences. You strip out

1744
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 4: this law, just changing the rules of the game, you

1745
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 4: are going to see the boxers go from taking eighty

1746
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 4: percent to twenty and vice versa, the promoters going from

1747
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 4: twenty to eighty. They if they make it a law

1748
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 4: where now promoters can in boxing make their own titles,

1749
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 4: look at me, it is fucking over for the sport.

1750
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 1: If they do that, Okay, I can only do that.

1751
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: It is game over now. I think if there's any

1752
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: counter to this, and I'll counter it from the space

1753
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,560
Speaker 1: of being the boxing guy, is that the Muhammad a

1754
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: liact has never been perfect, and it has also never

1755
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: been like fully executed because a big part of the

1756
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: muhammad a liact is giving the state commissions the ability

1757
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 1: to enforce these rules, but like enforce them at their

1758
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: own discretion so to a certain degree. So like, is

1759
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 1: it always enforced, is it always used properly?

1760
01:16:58,680 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 2: No?

1761
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: But the whole point is that it's there though, that

1762
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: is there for a reason, and if you just remove that,

1763
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 1: what will that do for the future. Well, it's also

1764
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: like it's not like there's not corruption with like sanctioning

1765
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: bodies and rankings everywhere in this sport, But that doesn't

1766
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,560
Speaker 1: mean that there won't be very bad outcomes by removing

1767
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: that completely and just letting a new future in a

1768
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 1: sport where it's where it's so easy to take advantage

1769
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: of these athletes because due to the damage that they

1770
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: take or usually only a certain amount of money. Now

1771
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: if you pull back those those training wheels and you

1772
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: can just I mean.

1773
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 4: Let's talk about let's talk about some of the failures

1774
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 4: of the Aliact. So one thing that gets brought up

1775
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 4: to me every time I say how important the Aliact is,

1776
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 4: people say, well, hey, al Haman's been violating it, which

1777
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 4: is not technically true. It's sort of true in the

1778
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 4: sense that you can't be a manager and a promoter

1779
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 4: at the same time. He is not the promoter of record.

1780
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,839
Speaker 4: PBC is actually not a promotional company. They use TGB.

1781
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 4: That's how they They have a few, but tgb's the

1782
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 4: main one, and so he's not in the sense there's

1783
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 4: no technical violation. But people have said, hey, shouldn't be

1784
01:17:58,439 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 4: this way.

1785
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: Well, he got sued, by the way when he PBC

1786
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen by basically every major promoter and was

1787
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: able to show that right.

1788
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 4: But here's the difference.

1789
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 10: Al.

1790
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 4: Even if you want to say he's violating it, which

1791
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 4: is its own little conversation.

1792
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 1: Even if you want to.

1793
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 4: Say that Al is doing it to get his guys paid,

1794
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 4: he is not doing it to take eighty percent. But

1795
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 4: that's not even the point. The point is if you

1796
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 4: can have long contracts and you can as a promoter

1797
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 4: own the title guys, it is over. It is over.

1798
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 4: At that point you can have you ever heard of

1799
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 4: the concept of the Chesterton fence? No, you ever heard

1800
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 4: of that concept?

1801
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: Bong Island Luke, I can't say that I have a

1802
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: piss on it, it'll electrify your piss and can.

1803
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 4: Get not quite exactly, it's the concept of sometimes you

1804
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 4: could be walking by in a field and you see

1805
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 4: a fence there, and then the reason why the fence

1806
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 4: is there is you're not really sure. You don't know why.

1807
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 4: Some it's been an old fence, it's maybe even looks

1808
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 4: a little decrepit. Someone put it there, and it seems

1809
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 4: like it doesn't serve any value. But then when you

1810
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 4: mess with it, all of the things you didn't realize

1811
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 4: that it does come pouring down.

1812
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,520
Speaker 1: He breaks the damn Yeah, the boxing world.

1813
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 4: Is about to find out what a Chesterton fence the

1814
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 4: Ali act is. And I have seen complete silence from them.

1815
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 4: They do not know what they are up against. And

1816
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 4: all those boxers who said things like, oh I would

1817
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,600
Speaker 4: love for the boxing industry to be run by the

1818
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 4: like it is an mma. You're about to find out

1819
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 4: what that means. It is. What better advertisement BC could

1820
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 4: there be for a law that a monopoly refuse to

1821
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 4: enter the space. Basically it is dangerous until they could

1822
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:31,759
Speaker 4: change the fucking laws.

1823
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: Yes. Wow, So we've heard Dana kind of be quiet

1824
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: of late about the rumors of this boxing league and

1825
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: telling MMA media asking him that, like, you know, damn

1826
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: the media, the New York Times, things shouldn't have leaked,

1827
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 1: which is probably true because they it seems like the

1828
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: timeline Luke has been pushed to the fall on this.

1829
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: But Mike Coppinger ESPN had Turkey Ala Chican and he

1830
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: did as specifically his thoughts on this league. So let's

1831
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: hear what he has to say.

1832
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 2: I know, I'm not sure if you can comments on this,

1833
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of talk. Right, You've posted some

1834
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 2: photos about this boxing league with you know, why will

1835
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 2: we see it happen?

1836
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 9: The vision will be clear in two three months we

1837
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 9: will know, Okay, But I imagine it's big, big plans,

1838
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:24,759
Speaker 9: big big plans. But you understand me, similar to this project,

1839
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 9: to reach the peak, you need time, right, it is

1840
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 9: long time projects, it's not short projects.

1841
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 2: Well, and you're saying long term projects really fix all

1842
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 2: the issues, because I imagine now that you've really been

1843
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,799
Speaker 2: in boxing for eighteen months, I don't.

1844
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 9: Think they care to fix the issues. They will do

1845
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,839
Speaker 9: something success, We will do something success.

1846
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 1: We look. This is interesting because Turkey has taken over

1847
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 1: the sport from a all the for the most part,

1848
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: most of the promoters are working with him. He's fueling

1849
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: and funding the huge fights. He's going to have a

1850
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: ring magazine series. He bought the ring he's going to

1851
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: have be a part of this TKO Boxing League in

1852
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,919
Speaker 1: funding that, and he sponsors all of the sanctioning bodies

1853
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: and controls the ring. So there could be like one

1854
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: title moving forward that is ultimately controlled by him. And

1855
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 1: we're on a topic about the ALI Act where we're

1856
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: talking about controlling it from the inside. This is a takeover.

1857
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: This is a complete takeover.

1858
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 4: It appears that way. It's hard to say exactly what

1859
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 4: they will be able to do, or when they will

1860
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 4: do it, or how they will do it. There are

1861
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 4: many ways a federal law could be repealed.

1862
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: Would you make a Turkey's kind of cryptic comments about it,

1863
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: like it's going to take time, but we got a plan,

1864
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: but they don't want to change it. We want to,

1865
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, like there's like some cryptic.

1866
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, how do you get a federal law

1867
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 4: overturned if you could again introduce new legislation. I don't

1868
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 4: know if the President will issue an executive order, I

1869
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 4: don't know.

1870
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. It took a challenge it in court.

1871
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 4: I suppose I mean wild wild. There's ways that this

1872
01:21:58,320 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 4: could all happen. I just want to make one point

1873
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 4: if I'm boxing is in trouble because again, it is

1874
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 4: run inefficiently. Everyone talks about how inefficient it is run

1875
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:12,879
Speaker 4: without realizing the inefficiencies are simply a safeguard against bad actors.

1876
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 4: And now you have the barbarians at the gate as

1877
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 4: I mentioned before. But there's a different thing going on BBC,

1878
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 4: and you see it in combat sports. You see it

1879
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 4: in MMA two, which is they look at the structure

1880
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 4: of MMA or boxing depending on what point they want

1881
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 4: to make, and they say, you see, it needs to

1882
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 4: be more like stick and ball sports. Take the PFL

1883
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 4: for example, right, we want to have a season schedule,

1884
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 4: we want to have teams, if you're the GFL, things

1885
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 4: that sports fans are just used to seeing. Or here you.

1886
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: See on the boxing side.

1887
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 4: Aha, you know what, All the great players play in

1888
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 4: the NFL, all the great players play in Major League Baseball.

1889
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 4: It's all in one house. And of course boxing is

1890
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 4: a sport, but trying to apply a traditional sports framework

1891
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 4: of how they operate two boxing will result in all

1892
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 4: of the protections that boxers enjoy being stripped out. It's

1893
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 4: actually bad for MMA to try and do a sports

1894
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 4: team league concept, and it is extremely bad for boxing

1895
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 4: to try and be like, oh my god, these sanctioning

1896
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 4: bodies are corrupt, it's so inefficient. Let's streamline it. Streamline

1897
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:27,759
Speaker 4: is code for deregulate and monopolize. That is what that means.

1898
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 4: Be very very clear about the terms. You don't want

1899
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,879
Speaker 4: boxing to run like traditional sports for any number of reasons,

1900
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 4: not least of which is the one thing that these

1901
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 4: guys have protecting them is this. And it makes it hard,

1902
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 4: and it makes it inefficient and at times very frustrating,

1903
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 4: but it is their security.

1904
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: This is a long range plan. They want to change

1905
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: the structure how boxing is fed in you know what

1906
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: I mean. They want to.

1907
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,879
Speaker 4: Change the laws of the federal government in this country

1908
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 4: to be able to have their own titles and more.

1909
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,759
Speaker 1: You may ask yourself, what is the structure of boxing

1910
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: going to do?

1911
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 5: Then?

1912
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 1: Well, most of the structure of boxing is Team Turkey

1913
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: right now. They're on board with this. But this was

1914
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 1: an interesting tweet from Mike Coppinger of ESPN, who put

1915
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: out there that he said, this is last week that

1916
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: there was a meeting at the WIN Las Vegas, sources

1917
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: told the ESPN between Bob Aram of Top Rank, WBC

1918
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: President Mauricio Suliman, and others, and one of the items

1919
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: discussed was the arrival of this boxing league. I wonder

1920
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 1: what boxing is going to do about. I mean, there

1921
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: does feel like we're already at a point where you're

1922
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: either with the machine or you're against them. Right, We're like,

1923
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: we're coming up on that point if we're not there

1924
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: already in some way.

1925
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 4: So although I mean, it's not like if listen, if

1926
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 4: let's say they repeal the ALI Act and now a

1927
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 4: promoter can make its own title among other things.

1928
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: Again, they may not.

1929
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 4: They may repeal certain parts of the Act where that

1930
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 4: stays on the on the legislation. I tend to think

1931
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 4: that won't, but you know, one never knows. But let's

1932
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 4: assume for the sake of argument that they remove it.

1933
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 4: It's not like the WBC title simply goes away as

1934
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 4: a relevant thing tomorrow. But they'll introduce the TKO belts, sure,

1935
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 4: and they'll slowly push out the relevancy. We're gonna start ring,

1936
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 4: We're we're gonna stop paying the sanctioning fees to these guys, which,

1937
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 4: by the way, the ALIAC limits how much they can

1938
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 4: actually even charge, which again they're still scummy about it,

1939
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 4: but it does put some limits on them. They're just

1940
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 4: gonna take control of it, and everyone's gonna say, ah,

1941
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 4: this is so streamlined, this is so great. Hey, why

1942
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 4: can't these guys pay their bills? Oh right, right, we

1943
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 4: remove the thing that gives them leverage in these situations.

1944
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 4: Fucking frightening.

1945
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 1: This is some frightening, groundbreaking stuff that's happening.

1946
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 4: To the level it's a level of mendacity that I

1947
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:36,839
Speaker 4: didn't even consider.

1948
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 1: It's wild. It's wild stuff. But it does take us

1949
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: into our fifth and final topic. Mike Coppinger VSPN did

1950
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: have a big role in this, and it was the

1951
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 1: forty eight hours of craziness surrounding Canelo Alvarez's boxing future

1952
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: that appeared to be at multiple times some type of

1953
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,679
Speaker 1: Netflix super fight against Jake Paul and May, but quickly

1954
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: or at the final eleventh hour, according to those reporting,

1955
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: this thing changed aggressively and suddenly Turkey Alaschik swept in

1956
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 1: signed Canelo Alvarez away from PBC to a four fight

1957
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:10,919
Speaker 1: deal that would include now fighting in May in riod

1958
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 1: on Sinko Demayo weekend with the start time adjusting for

1959
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 1: American primetime on Saturday night against IBF champion William Skull

1960
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 1: to try to become undisputed again to set the stage

1961
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: for fight number two, which would be this September in

1962
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, reportedly Allegiant Stadium against Terrence Bud Crawford. Fight

1963
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 1: number three would come in February of twenty twenty six

1964
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia, possible rematch with Dmitri Bevall among the

1965
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: names mentioned, Christy Bank, Junior, Hamsa Shiraz and then at

1966
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: fourth fight in the fall of twenty six to be announced. Luke,

1967
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: there was a lot attached to how this happened, the

1968
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: misinformation that was being shared publicly, the reports flying back

1969
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: and forth, Jake Paul making a public stance that he

1970
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 1: feels like Canelo is ducking him. But this is also

1971
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: Canelo making a monster power move financially with estimates that

1972
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, we're looking at two hundred to three hundred

1973
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 1: million here that he's going to make on the life

1974
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 1: of this deal. So the key question is this is

1975
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: Canelo aligning with Turkey here? Good for the sport, good

1976
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 1: for American boxing, Good for the Mexican stars legacy, who

1977
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,759
Speaker 1: were the winners and losers of this wild two days

1978
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: that ended with Turkey kind of doing a victory lap

1979
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: that the Lion himself has now signed Big Red. I

1980
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: have mixed feelings.

1981
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 4: I would imagine most fans have mixed feelings. Let's talk

1982
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 4: about the good. The good is in September, Canelo is

1983
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 4: gonna fight Bud Crawford. Your mileage may vary on how

1984
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 4: much you like that fight. I don't think that's a

1985
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 4: disreputable fight.

1986
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 1: And Turkey's trying to say that it could be the

1987
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 1: biggest fight of all time, like he's actively trying to

1988
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: like make it this monster thing.

1989
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 4: And it will be in the United States, which is

1990
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 4: of the four fights that he has booked, only one

1991
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 4: of them will be in the US, but it will

1992
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 4: be that one. I think for that reason, I'm kind

1993
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 4: of excited. Now we have to admit BC, you would

1994
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 4: probably agree. I'm not saying will go this way, but

1995
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 4: it is reasonable I think to conclude that one of

1996
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 4: the ways that fights that fight could go is that

1997
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 4: maybe Terrence has just been off more than he could chew.

1998
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 4: That is a that is something that you.

1999
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: The unknown factor of finding that out is the pull up.

2000
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 4: Same thing with Tachiono Suarez and Jehan Wierley. I didn't

2001
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 4: know what was gonna happen, but I didn't mind the

2002
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 4: matchmakers giving it a go. Okay, So that one part

2003
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 4: is great. But the problem is Canelo Alvarez appears to

2004
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 4: be firmly in the taking bullshit ass fights stage of

2005
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 4: his career, not the Crawford one, but the three other ones,

2006
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 4: starting with William Skull.

2007
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: Hey, too early, this is too early, Canelo. Okay, Long Island, Luke,

2008
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: what is your favorite Skull win? Oh?

2009
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 6: His last one for sure.

2010
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Ship, which was called one called one of

2011
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: the worst title fights.

2012
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 4: Ye, fight, it's what happened, only because he had to

2013
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 4: lose IBF title to begin with and they had to

2014
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 4: make it.

2015
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 1: They stripped Canelo for not wanting to fight Skull as

2016
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 1: a mandatory.

2017
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 4: Williams Skull, by the way, is a Cuban fighter. I

2018
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 4: watched this fight over the weekend. It's not a bad fight,

2019
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 4: but it's not a great fight.

2020
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 1: By it's a horrible fight.

2021
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it was a little bit interesting early

2022
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 4: in terms of what a Skull shows athletically, but then

2023
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 4: he fades down the stretch. There's really no reason to

2024
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 4: believe he will beat Canelo outs and then you know,

2025
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 4: depending on what happens with Terrence Crawford, if that goes poorly,

2026
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 4: like however bad you think the matchmaking is now for Canelo,

2027
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 4: it would only get worse. But BC, I don't know

2028
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 4: how I feel about the Jake Paul thing either, because

2029
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 4: on the one hand, that's the most bullshit ass fight

2030
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 4: he could have possibly taken. Sure, but that would have

2031
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,719
Speaker 4: been big for the American market. Now you've got Canelo,

2032
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 4: who I guess I understand is Mexican but fights exclusively,

2033
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 4: appears with the exception of a couple of mandatories here

2034
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 4: and then in Guadalajara. He fights in the United States.

2035
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 4: You're not taking the next two years of him, and

2036
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 4: you're giving us one date in the United States. For yes,

2037
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 4: is Skull better than fighting Jake Paul?

2038
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 1: Of course it is, But that's the biggest US boxing

2039
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: attraction for for live.

2040
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 4: Take, So it's like really bad for the United States.

2041
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 4: It's good for Canelo's pocketbook, but he was already rich

2042
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 4: to begin with. But I mean, I think it how

2043
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 4: do you feel about good and bad here.

2044
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it takes some further away from the Benavillaz fight,

2045
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: which we hope is part of this four fight pack.

2046
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Look, this is really bad for

2047
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: Canelo if your legacy is going to focus, you know,

2048
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 1: extremely on who'ld you beat in the decisions you made

2049
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,719
Speaker 1: with the leverage that you had. Now, look, it's obviously

2050
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:11,640
Speaker 1: a great business move for Canelo. And you know, if

2051
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: we're honest, right around the same age Floyd's side, Floyd

2052
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 1: Mayweather signed that landmark deal to go from HBO to

2053
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: Showtime six fights, three hundred million, and we didn't know

2054
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 1: at that point could he fulfill the deal, like what

2055
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 1: would happen? No, he gave us, you know, he kind

2056
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 1: of did one or the other. Gave it like an

2057
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: okay fight against Guero, but then you fight Canelo, you know,

2058
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: two fights with my Donna bite pack. Yeah, with then

2059
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 1: fight Burdo. Maybe ultimately that's what Canelo is gonna give

2060
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 1: in this. But it doesn't make you excited that he's

2061
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 1: gonna be pulled from the country. I mean, obviously the

2062
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: Terrence Crawford fight's going to be an event, a big deal,

2063
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 1: and they're gonna take care of it with the right gloves,

2064
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: I believe, to really prop it up there, putting it

2065
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 1: in the football stadium, all that stuff could be potentially brilliant,

2066
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, it doesn't give me confidence

2067
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: that Canlo is going to lead this. I mean, I

2068
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 1: know they're talking potentially about a Bevault rematching there. I

2069
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 1: know it can get interesting with in this one seventy

2070
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:03,600
Speaker 1: five title picture of Canelo wants to be willing to

2071
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: go and fight those guys because Benavita's and Morale and

2072
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: all those guys are potentially there. But what does this say,

2073
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,759
Speaker 1: what does this do for the future of the business

2074
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 1: is interesting.

2075
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:14,600
Speaker 4: We can I just tell you that the last the

2076
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 4: last eight fights of Floyd's career, yeah, there were some

2077
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 4: bullshit fights in there, wasn't there There was no I'm

2078
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 4: not saying there was not a.

2079
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:21,600
Speaker 1: Bullshit but they were sort of like, could you have

2080
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: done a bigger one? Yes, but he did one step

2081
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: down below bullshit fights. Dude.

2082
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 4: I cannot tell you how many times I see in

2083
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 4: boxing fandom a bullshit fight that gets made and someone goes, okay,

2084
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 4: but there's a little value of it here, which is

2085
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:36,799
Speaker 4: always true. For example Canelo versus Skull. Well, if Canelo wins,

2086
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 4: he gets to reunify.

2087
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: But why does that matter because it gives Bud Crawford

2088
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 1: the chance to come boxing's first mail to go undisputed.

2089
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 4: But as a fight, it's a bullshit fight, right, These

2090
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 4: are the last fights of the career, roughly, you know

2091
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 4: about the last five years of what Floyd did. Miguel

2092
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 4: Coto in twenty twelve, Robert Guerrero, Okay, that's a bullshit.

2093
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 1: For Guerrero beat Berto to get the Wealth Way title.

2094
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 4: Shit, but yeah, he was way over. Then Canelo, then

2095
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 4: my Donna twice. No, nothing bullshit about that at all.

2096
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 1: The rematch was aggressive, but the first fight was a

2097
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: majority of decisions.

2098
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 4: My Donna gave it to him the first fight. I really,

2099
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 4: I really believe that. And then of course Pacquiao, which

2100
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,759
Speaker 4: again came late, but Paciao was not a pushover.

2101
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 1: They got it done.

2102
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,879
Speaker 4: Berto, which was the last one for all intents and purposes.

2103
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 4: And then McGregor, which was a bullshit fight. So he

2104
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 4: had a couple of the sprinkled in there. But what

2105
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 4: you get with like who is the equivalent of the

2106
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 4: back to back My Donna's that Canelo was fighting. Do

2107
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 4: he just fuck he just fucking fought BERLONGA ye, what

2108
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 4: are we doing?

2109
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 1: And you know the yeah, this is disappointed. Look this

2110
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,719
Speaker 1: turned for Canelo and to be this brash about it,

2111
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: it's it is disappointing. Not that I wanted the Jake

2112
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,759
Speaker 1: Paul fight at all, but you even have to ask yourself,

2113
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 1: as a pure boxing fan, are you more would you

2114
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 1: be more interested in Canelo Jake Paul or Canelo William

2115
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: Skull even though it's the path to get us to Crawford?

2116
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 1: It just I don't know, Well, it's it was I

2117
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 1: have friends ask me about Canelo Crawford.

2118
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 4: They do? I have friends ask me, but I have

2119
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 4: like neighbors ask me about Canelo Jake Paul.

2120
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean, this is where the sport's going, and the

2121
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: money's over there and Canelo's taking it. So it is

2122
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: what it is. But Turkey seemed to I mean, do

2123
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 1: you would you agree with this statement that Canelo definitely

2124
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 1: played Jake Paul, Whether that thing he signed was actually

2125
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 1: the contract, the beginning of the contract, or just a

2126
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 1: NDA or whatever whatever level it was that he signed,

2127
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: he certainly leveraged them and played them. But did he

2128
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 1: play Turkey too. I mean it seems like he drove

2129
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: up his own price to be able to get this

2130
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: done and raising it to a four fight deal. I mean,

2131
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: it didn't seem like it mattered because it felt like

2132
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: Turkey needed to win this. Can we watch this video quickly?

2133
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 1: Here's Turkey's reaction that he put out on social media.

2134
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 9: Canello and Real and May the big fight and the

2135
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 9: history of boxing in September, then two more fight in

2136
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 9: twenty six. Don't miss.

2137
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 14: With the Lion.

2138
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he's feeling himself. He's that's his uh, that's

2139
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 1: his hit, you know, that's his Uh. Also, do we

2140
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 1: have the Jake Paul response at all? We do, But

2141
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:17,839
Speaker 1: but I can understand if you're trying to take over boxing,

2142
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 1: especially the highest end, you need boxing's biggest start. So

2143
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 1: for Turkey, that's a win. We don't know the terms

2144
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 1: on it. We're gonna assume it was hefty, hefty to

2145
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 1: get that done. Do you take what I mean, like,

2146
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: how should we receive that? How should we feel that?

2147
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 1: It's like and one thing, it's it stopped us from

2148
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 1: having to do a bullshit fight with Jake Paul. But

2149
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's enabling Canalo. Even though I

2150
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 1: love the Crawford fight, it's it's very think about this is.

2151
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 4: I thought it was funny and I totally agree that

2152
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 4: Turkey and Canelo clearly use Jake Paul to negotiate in

2153
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 4: the media. I mean, there's simply no question. And that

2154
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 4: document that he flashed. The way it works is you

2155
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 4: can sign an intent fight with a confidentiality agreement attached

2156
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 4: to that, and then you take that agreement to various

2157
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 4: networks depending on your contractual freedom. Do you take it

2158
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 4: to Netflix, you take it to Amazon Prime? Hey bid

2159
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 4: on this, right, It's sort of the idea, and so

2160
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 4: they had that, but that was just to you know,

2161
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 4: ultimately leverage for a better deal.

2162
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: I just think you have to ask a question.

2163
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 4: What does it say that the face of boxing is

2164
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 4: basically doing Saudi tourism a favor?

2165
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 1: That's what that is? Saudi Chi. I mean, so is

2166
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 1: Christiano Ronaldo?

2167
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 4: Okay, but he is not the face of world soccer anymore.

2168
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: He's not maybe not actively it's top best player, but

2169
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 1: he's not far from that title, is he. Yeah, he's

2170
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,600
Speaker 1: pretty far from that title in terms of just recognized

2171
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 1: to being a symbol, being an ambassador being a icon.

2172
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 1: He is an icon for sure.

2173
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 4: I mean talking about one of the five best players,

2174
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 4: maybe not you know, the top three best players of

2175
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,719
Speaker 4: all time. Dude, I was there. I love Christiana Ronaldo

2176
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 4: as a player, I understand, but he's like, the headlines

2177
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 4: in Europe.

2178
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 1: Are not about him.

2179
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 4: They're about Himbape, they're about Holland, they're about you know,

2180
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:08,640
Speaker 4: you name it. There's a whole new array of players.

2181
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 4: It's not that he's not the face of it anymore.

2182
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 4: And so it's a little bit of a different detour.

2183
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 4: Canelo is simply renting out what's left of his creatable

2184
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 4: thirty five in July. He's renting out what's left of

2185
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 4: his career. So the Saudi government, can you know, for

2186
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 4: of its various purposes, make itself look good. That's the

2187
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 4: face of basically a boxing and more particularly the face of,

2188
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 4: even though he's Mexican, the face of American boxing.

2189
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 1: Holy shit, that is sad.

2190
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 9: Well.

2191
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 1: Canelo put out a video dunkin back on Jake. Let's

2192
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 1: look in on that.

2193
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 14: Hey, guys, don't pay attention and anything in this fucking yettube.

2194
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 14: I just fight real fighters from fucking around with Canndo,

2195
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:53,600
Speaker 14: come on, let's go.

2196
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't power move by Big Red there.

2197
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean it certainly was.

2198
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 4: But you avoid the circuit fight. That is true, but

2199
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 4: then you pick up extra bullshit fights.

2200
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: But at the same time, Canelo outplayed Jake Paul. There's

2201
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 1: no question, there is zero questions. So Jake Paul had

2202
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 1: a number of videos, but here's the one the Variety

2203
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 1: show that he put out this fun games dancing video bit.

2204
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 1: What'd you make of this? Let's watch it. I'm coming.

2205
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 1: Are you enamored with that way that man wears slacks?

2206
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 4: I don't know what the fuck he's doing, but I

2207
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:43,719
Speaker 4: can say this. I'll say this. You remember we sat

2208
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 4: down with him, Yeah, was it four years ago something

2209
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 4: like that, and he was like, yeah, my goal is

2210
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 4: to get a fight with Canelo, and we scoffed in

2211
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 4: his face and he got very, very very close. I

2212
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 4: don't know if they'll be able to make one going forward,

2213
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 4: but if you're the point I wanted to make was

2214
01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:00,640
Speaker 4: if you're Jake, that was your white whale, that was

2215
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 4: the holy grail, that was everything.

2216
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 1: You were outside of McGregor, who you can't get, then

2217
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 1: that's you.

2218
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 4: Can't get, but I mean do he he told us

2219
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 4: Canelo is the fight. He was this close, and then

2220
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 4: the whole thing blew up at the finish line. I

2221
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,839
Speaker 4: can understand why you would be pissed off in a case.

2222
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but to act like he's ducking you is

2223
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: such a joke, Like he's laughing at you. He's not

2224
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 1: ducking at So he played you like he Well, is

2225
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: there an angle he could take? Because I saw that

2226
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 1: he had Benavidez and his son on his podcast like

2227
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 1: the Day After, which was kind of cool to see

2228
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 1: them team up, and then people were like, man, wouldn't

2229
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 1: that be the ultimate fu to Canelo. I'll go fight

2230
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 1: Benavidez instead? On May third? He would get, but then

2231
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 1: he also would get hammered out. So is there any

2232
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 1: kind of like, is there any movie can one up

2233
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 1: Canelo with? Like, is there a fight he can make

2234
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 1: in that spot on May third to get him back?

2235
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what else he could do. I just

2236
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 1: don't like the stance of Jacob, like, oh, you're ducking dude,

2237
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: He's not ducking. Somebody texted me that he should fight

2238
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 1: Oscar de la Hoya. What do you think about that?

2239
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Oscar fifty two and he could

2240
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 1: get hurt in that just the same he could win

2241
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 1: that and probably be favored. But like, I don't this

2242
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 1: is this is about Carl Froch.

2243
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 4: He's forty six crotches. I love Froch. I think he

2244
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 4: is a very good fighter. I don't know if that's

2245
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 4: a Canelo substitute.

2246
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 1: In terms of the danger and what it would know

2247
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 1: in terms of like how big it could be. Oh,

2248
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. Canelo is just simply going

2249
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 1: to certainly unless you did it in Wembley with a

2250
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 1: or something.

2251
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 4: He brings that up a lot. That's I like Carl Frotch,

2252
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:25,639
Speaker 4: but I just think even if you're fraud you've gotta

2253
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 4: be realistic. It's Canelo is hard to replace. He has

2254
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 4: leverage and he used it and I understand it, but

2255
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 4: he didn't really use it for anybody else's gain except

2256
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 4: his and a person he's in financial bedwin.

2257
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's showing I mean, he's showing his true colors.

2258
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: But what does that mean when he's a businessman. He's

2259
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: a shrewd businessman. He's certainly showing that. And he's also

2260
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,759
Speaker 1: in full complete of his control of his career. Doesn't

2261
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 1: care if we say he's duck in this person or

2262
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 1: that person, because he's not ducking when he goes to

2263
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 1: the bank teller window, Luke, but he found the biggest suitor.

2264
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: He played this right. He got the deal. So at

2265
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 1: least we're gonna get Crawford out of it. I hope

2266
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 1: Canelo after that crashes the party of the bev All

2267
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 1: better be av you know, Benevite's trio. But we'll find

2268
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 1: out one other point on this then we can close

2269
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 1: in this. So what we thought it was was maybe

2270
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 1: the sloppiest forty eight hours in boxing journalism in a while, right,

2271
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 1: Like everyone's coming out with reports and then it was

2272
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 1: just changing. It was like Canelo is gonna fight Crawford,

2273
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:21,840
Speaker 1: Now he's not. Now he's gonna fight Jake. But now

2274
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 1: the Crawford fights off. But it was never on again,

2275
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 1: and the reports are going back and forth, and a

2276
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 1: lot of people are taking shots and saying, look, people

2277
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 1: just you know, do their tighten up and do the

2278
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 1: job the right way. But Luke, as it turns out,

2279
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,640
Speaker 1: Turkey was the seed of this misinformation. So we know

2280
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 1: he purchased Ring magazine, But to be fair, they also

2281
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 1: put out many tweets and disclaimers saying the ring would

2282
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: be separate from Riat season. It wouldn't be like like

2283
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 1: Turkey and the matchmaker's Riot season is Saudi.

2284
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 4: Right. Ring magazine is just Turkey.

2285
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 1: But even when it was launched, it was presented as

2286
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a separate, independent editorial thing. This blurred

2287
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 1: those lines a lot. When Turkey caught up with Mike

2288
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 1: Kapentrier with ESP and listen to this part, I.

2289
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 9: Would be honest with you. I started the last forty

2290
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 9: eight hours giving wrong information to everyone to make them

2291
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 9: go to another site.

2292
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 1: And when I know.

2293
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 9: That big appointment between one big platform and the camp

2294
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 9: of the two fighters, and there is people starting doing

2295
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 9: posters and choosing arena and choosing whereas the compress will be,

2296
01:41:55,760 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 9: then I finished the deal in five minutes. I call

2297
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 9: Canelo directly and I said to him, hello, brother, you

2298
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 9: know this fight will damage the pictures and the idea

2299
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 9: about our plan. And honestly, I think you're, as a

2300
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 9: Canelo too young to take this fight. You can have

2301
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 9: it after thirty years, right.

2302
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 1: So Turkey would go on to make a joke and

2303
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 1: say Jake Paul should instead fight mister Beast right now

2304
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 1: for the YouTube Championship. But Luke, the first part of

2305
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 1: that is what I wanted to ask about. Did Turkey

2306
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,799
Speaker 1: just do what all the other promoters do, like the UFC,

2307
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 1: which will even go the length of announcing a fight

2308
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:43,560
Speaker 1: before it's even signed, you know, putting the pressure on

2309
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 1: the fighters. Or is it the fact that he's doing

2310
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 1: it so openly and he's in an interview with a

2311
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 1: guy who he gave misinformation to for two days that

2312
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 1: was leading the reporting in all these opposite directions at once,

2313
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 1: and then he's like, yeah, I felt like that Jake

2314
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 1: Paul fight was going to take the luster away from

2315
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 1: the Crawford fight, so I jumped in and fixed it

2316
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 1: and paid everybody. And I'm also going to admit to

2317
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 1: you on the air that I was lying to you

2318
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 1: and spread misinformation. Are we supposed to just like go,

2319
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:11,839
Speaker 1: oh he got it, just like we said, oh Canelo,

2320
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,680
Speaker 1: Canelo won the negotiation? There like, oh he got us?

2321
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 1: Or is this really bad? When these reports were coming

2322
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: directly from Ring Magazine, which means they're coming directly from him,

2323
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 1: which means there is no break between owner and not

2324
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 1: like people thought there was, but still this proves to

2325
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 1: you that there's not. And I feel like the rest

2326
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: of the boxing industry just like, yeah, he lied to us,

2327
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 1: but we got the better fight out of it. So cool. Yeah.

2328
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 4: I mean these are people who also have been told

2329
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 4: the ALIAC might get stripped out and they're like, yeah,

2330
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 4: so what These are not thinking people. I would say

2331
01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 4: anybody in a position of power is going to leak,

2332
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,640
Speaker 4: and they're going to leak either because they want that

2333
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 4: information leaked for one purpose or another. It can be

2334
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 4: to manipulate a situation to put out fake news, or

2335
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 4: it could be real news. We're gonna leak strategically for

2336
01:43:56,439 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 4: any kind of aim. People in the combats or business,

2337
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 4: powerful people, promoters, managers, you name.

2338
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 1: It, they leak.

2339
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 4: It is up to the media outlet to verify the

2340
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 4: leak before going public. In the case of the Ring magazine,

2341
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 4: and I know there are good people who work there.

2342
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 4: There's lots of people. I think Jake Donovan one of

2343
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 4: my favorite guys to follow. I didn't see him as

2344
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 4: part of this, by the way, Like I didn't see

2345
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:20,640
Speaker 4: him reporting on this.

2346
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean maybe he did.

2347
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 4: I didn't see it, but I like him a lot,

2348
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 4: But in general, I don't know how you can trust

2349
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 4: anything that the Ring magazine says anymore. They are clearly

2350
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:35,639
Speaker 4: a mouthpiece for arguably the most powerful guy in the sport,

2351
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 4: who just admitted on camera he has no problem lying

2352
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 4: to you unfettered and the media outlet won't check it.

2353
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 4: Holy shit, guys, what are we doing here?

2354
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 1: Well, there's one more pick. Let's listen a little more

2355
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 1: and then I want to get your reaction.

2356
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:50,600
Speaker 14: You know, I like you.

2357
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:57,679
Speaker 9: You know you deserve this interview because what's happened yesterday

2358
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 9: and before I am sorry do not tell you the truth?

2359
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 9: And you know, now what's the reason? Because I plan

2360
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 9: to make this all success.

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01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 1: I never give you.

2362
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 9: Wrong information, but I don't give you the right information.

2363
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:26,560
Speaker 9: In the last forty eight hours, I see you go

2364
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 9: in different directions and I don't stop you for the

2365
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:39,599
Speaker 9: reason until I finish. But you are great man, success man,

2366
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:41,679
Speaker 9: and have a great future.

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01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for the kind words. I appreciate that,

2368
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 2: and thank you for everything you're doing for.

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01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 1: So is it just that he's like brash enough to

2370
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: like show you the map and be like this is

2371
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 1: what I did? He's he's is that why I'm upset

2372
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 1: because this is this.

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01:45:56,280 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 4: Is a fuck and be halfway thinking I've always got

2374
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 4: along with cop. But like if Turkey or anybody else,

2375
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:08,679
Speaker 4: like if Dana calls you and says, hey, uh, Poeton

2376
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,679
Speaker 4: versus John Jones UFC International Fight Week.

2377
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good source.

2378
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 4: And it's a great source. You still have to have

2379
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 4: a second one to confirm it. You would then have

2380
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:19,839
Speaker 4: to call John's manager or if you have John direct

2381
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 4: or you could call Poeton's manager or something. You would

2382
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 4: have to get it verified. You just can't take the

2383
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 4: scoop and then run it and it appears again I

2384
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,560
Speaker 4: haven't talked to Mike, but it appears he got the

2385
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 4: scoop and just ran it thinking, oh, well, Turkey is

2386
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 4: not going to lie to me, but Turkey is here.

2387
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about Mike's practice. I always get

2388
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 1: along with Mike. Uh. Maybe he thought he could trust

2389
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 1: him to me. This is just so brash that he's

2390
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: coming out and saying I'm giving you this interview because

2391
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: I screwed you over yesterday. But I wasn't lying. I

2392
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 1: was just giving you the wrong info on purpose. It's

2393
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 1: like it's strategic lying. It's the same one. Okay, that's

2394
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 1: where we're at right now.

2395
01:46:56,040 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 4: All right, he is posting insanely anti antisemitic things on Instagram.

2396
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 1: Please don't, please don't. I'll show it to you.

2397
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 9: Okay.

2398
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 1: He does have a history with saying absolutely awful things.

2399
01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 1: Those are Yeah, unfortunately, those are our five topics for

2400
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 1: the week. It's look the takeovers upon us dude, not

2401
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 1: tale female, Okay, the big takeover. It's a pund Yeah.

2402
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 4: I mean, it's as I've tried to warn people that,

2403
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:20,520
Speaker 4: like in general, it's certainly in this country that antitrust

2404
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 4: is not strong enough. You have to break up big companies. Uh,

2405
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:27,560
Speaker 4: and we already were doing a bad job of that,

2406
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 4: and I think it's about to get significantly worse. Yeah,

2407
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 4: So here we go.

2408
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 1: This is very very aggressive future. We are getting great fights,

2409
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 1: but there would always be a price on the other side.

2410
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 1: We're finding out about it. Let's go into our next segment,

2411
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:40,600
Speaker 1: and I just want to remind you folks, not for

2412
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 1: this segment, but in general, you want to reach out

2413
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 1: to the show, we need you to hit up Morningcombat

2414
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Of course, that's fueling our Friday

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Speaker 1: fan subs and also dead Wrongs, which we skip last

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Speaker 1: week's We be back with a bang this Friday. This

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01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 1: segment is DMS from Donks every Sunday night on the

2418
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: at Morning Combat, Twitter and Instagram feeds. We open up

2419
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:01,360
Speaker 1: the questions to you to hear from you, but it

2420
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: better be a good one and you better not have

2421
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 1: a weird handle that makes it look like also your

2422
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 1: prison number. This is DMS from Dogs. That is just

2423
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:16,560
Speaker 1: the grossest sound. I keep waiting for help and he

2424
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 1: it ain't coming. Yeah, yeah, help, we need somebody. And

2425
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:22,479
Speaker 1: Luke Long Island, Luke, let's hit the first one here?

2426
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 1: Okay please? This is from at Pete Riddell, Right, No,

2427
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 1: at Pete at Peter Ry Dell. Yes, was UFC three

2428
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:34,600
Speaker 1: twelve one of the worst pay per view cards in

2429
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 1: recent memory including name, value, fight delivery, lack of finishes,

2430
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 1: et cetera. If not, what recent one was worse? You

2431
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 1: uf see three O one was really bad Brazil after

2432
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 1: three hundred Oh fuck that?

2433
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 7: Well?

2434
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 4: The main event was pretty good though, Ersag and Pantojia.

2435
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 1: Yes, but the whole car is talked about that and

2436
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 1: then the star power and all that. Also, you hear

2437
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:57,680
Speaker 1: rumors that this Montreal, the return to Montreal, which is

2438
01:48:57,720 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 1: great coming up. But you hear rumors that it's gonna

2439
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 1: be on the main event and Julian Openia and the

2440
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 1: Cole Maine. That's that's interesting.

2441
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:07,800
Speaker 4: Watt though, Yeah, at least okay, that's all right.

2442
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, if it's balall just just rumors I'm hearing.

2443
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter.

2444
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 4: If it's ball shot cut and it's Juliana Kayla again

2445
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 4: on paper, that's we'll see.

2446
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 1: We got to see what I was underneath? Is it

2447
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 1: malt and a bunch of no wiki pages? What is it?

2448
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 4: You know full well it's going to be okay. By

2449
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 4: the way, By the way, William Skull, the only opponent

2450
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:33,599
Speaker 4: he's ever faced with the Wikipedia entry is the last

2451
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 4: one shiskin.

2452
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 1: Yes, this is a this is a I hate this

2453
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:39,600
Speaker 1: part quickly though. Is there an other like one that

2454
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 1: jumps out for you as worst or like, is there

2455
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,080
Speaker 1: a sore thumb outside of UFC one fifty two that

2456
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:45,719
Speaker 1: never happened?

2457
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:49,559
Speaker 4: There was one that they went to with like your

2458
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 4: Riyah Faber, but it had a bunch of injuries on

2459
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 4: the card back in Canada. I forget what one.

2460
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 1: Head Pennington Newness that was a really bad that was

2461
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 1: a really fucking bad Yeah, long on, look you you

2462
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:04,640
Speaker 1: remember any any blockbuster crashes here?

2463
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 6: Good call on three to oh one. That's the one

2464
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 6: of recent memory.

2465
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 1: Again that main was good.

2466
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, the main was good, but it was like Anthony

2467
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 6: Smith Vitor Petrino.

2468
01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:13,719
Speaker 1: At least he got him out of there quickly.

2469
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:15,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it was banned on I know, I know

2470
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 6: it was.

2471
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,720
Speaker 1: Let's go to our next one from our donkers here.

2472
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 1: This one's from Jimmy Underscore read does PATCHI Mix fight

2473
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 1: for the UFC By the end of twenty five now

2474
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 1: he has once again social media public saying hey, PFL,

2475
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 1: can you please let me go make money and live

2476
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 1: my life? You think they might try to hold on

2477
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,240
Speaker 1: and give him something. I think he is still in

2478
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 1: his prime, and I think they're going to try and

2479
01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: hold him. Would you, if you were them, ask him

2480
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:40,680
Speaker 1: if he wants to move up and wait and enter

2481
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 1: the Paul Hughes Usman Nirmaga made off circle or is

2482
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 1: it not necessary? You could just have him run the band?

2483
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 1: Haven't run the banda wait one? They have a good

2484
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:50,640
Speaker 1: bandam weight division still, Oh wait, that'd be moving up

2485
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:51,679
Speaker 1: to wait clesses anyway.

2486
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 4: Yeah too Okay, then that's although he is.

2487
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 1: He's big though, but I was thinking we were one

2488
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 1: wake clease.

2489
01:50:56,920 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 4: He's also free agent completely according to Aliabella's interesting also,

2490
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 4: so is uh.

2491
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: The old Belatore welterweight champ Almasov. It was just that one.

2492
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:06,679
Speaker 4: Your slab.

2493
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm a slob. Yeah, your slab. I'm a slab. He

2494
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: wants to go to the UFC too, he was putting

2495
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 1: out on he'd be a great addition. I'm into that

2496
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 1: as well. All right, what else we got here from

2497
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 1: the people? This is from at iw Lichtenberg with his

2498
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 1: granite chin surgical jab unforgiving power. Glovekin was avoided whenever possible.

2499
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 1: That's the true fact. What are some of the most

2500
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:29,639
Speaker 1: avoided fighters in recent good question? Well, glove can obviously,

2501
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:31,560
Speaker 1: glove can, no question about it.

2502
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 4: Right, we've got Lewis or holy Field? Did they have

2503
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 4: I mean bo obviously chucking that shit in the garbage?

2504
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 4: What didn't help?

2505
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 1: No, that didn't help. But like straight up avoided, you

2506
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 1: have to be somebody like who's high risk, low reward commercial.

2507
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:50,679
Speaker 1: Kennevie is avoided due to the carnage factor. For sure,

2508
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:52,320
Speaker 1: He's definitely up there right now. I mean, he's got

2509
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 1: the biggest star in boxing, not mentioning his name and

2510
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:56,560
Speaker 1: making up weird excuses of why he would have to

2511
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 1: earn it or rehydration or whatever. I mean, where are

2512
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 1: we at? Where we at Big Red right now? Oh,

2513
01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 1: we're in We're in Ria, that's right. Who we are

2514
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 1: right now? Is there famous names of people that were avoided?

2515
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 1: I mean you you notice you don't say that in

2516
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 1: the UFC for understand. You know, who would say he's

2517
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 1: avoided Shannon the Cannon Briggs. Yeah, that's probably you would

2518
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 1: say he's avoided. That's probably true. Demetrius Andreid was avoided for.

2519
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:23,599
Speaker 4: A long time, that's true, and then he finally got

2520
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 4: was avoided.

2521
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:26,720
Speaker 1: You know, And that's sort of a negative avoiding where

2522
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:28,680
Speaker 1: people are like, I can't really gain anything. But there's

2523
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 1: certainly times when you're just so dangerous people want nothing

2524
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:31,560
Speaker 1: to do with you. In that.

2525
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 4: In boxing, it's never like the big stars who are

2526
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:36,440
Speaker 4: avoided exactly. It's always the contenders.

2527
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Lovekin was aggressively avoided, by the exception of like,

2528
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 1: once in a while you get a guy like that

2529
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 1: who they still do still want a piece of. I mean,

2530
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 1: even Canelo awaited him out a year and a half

2531
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:47,759
Speaker 1: and people don't want to realize that that that happened.

2532
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 1: It happened. It absolutely did. Unfortunately. All right, what do

2533
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 1: we got next from the d m rs? This is

2534
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 1: from at Flannels and gits. He's a regular in this spot.

2535
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:57,880
Speaker 1: You know he is with Dom Cruise retiring. What is

2536
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 1: your favorite Dom Cruise fight in? Where does he rank

2537
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 1: among all time Banham weights out one two.

2538
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:07,040
Speaker 4: I was cage side for Don Cruz versus to Beatrice

2539
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 4: Johnson that I was in d C. That was at

2540
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 4: the Verizon Center. That was great. But then really my

2541
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 4: favorite one, if I can be honest with you, it

2542
01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 4: wasn't really the favor fights. Those were great, but the TJ.

2543
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 4: Dillashaw fight for me is the one where he had

2544
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 4: to come.

2545
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 1: Back and I didn't think he won that, but it

2546
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 1: was very close.

2547
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:22,879
Speaker 4: Certainly is debatable.

2548
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 1: That was in Boston. Yeah, it was more in the

2549
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: Misugaki win.

2550
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 4: When he came back after he looked like a million bucks.

2551
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:30,839
Speaker 1: So there's been a few of them. Those are mine, Yeah, definitely.

2552
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think through here in terms of what

2553
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 1: jumps out to me. I was at the third Fabor

2554
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 1: fight but obviously the third one, doesn't you know?

2555
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 4: It was?

2556
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean he was competitive, but uh, Cruse couldn't get

2557
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 1: over the hump in that one. I mean, who do

2558
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 1: you think gave him the closest fight at his peak?

2559
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he lost to Demetrich Johnson one

2560
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 1: one weight class above, but do you think that was

2561
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: the closest? Yeah, that was. I wish we would have

2562
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 1: got there a second time. I wish he beat DJ.

2563
01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean he was, he was of the It was

2564
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 1: up a weight for DJ before the invented. Yeah, yeah,

2565
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 1: there you go on that one. I believe we have

2566
01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 1: one more coming in from at Oha. How do we

2567
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:10,519
Speaker 1: say this guy's name, Sharon?

2568
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 4: I think fuck face mcapplestick.

2569
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: Underscore Delaney. Yes, what's the most hungover all? Dude? Everybody

2570
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 1: has one story, right, everybody has one that just is

2571
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 1: above all the others, the goat of the pain. And

2572
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 1: for me, it was drinking eighteen Cranberry and Vodkas at

2573
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 1: Seaton Hall in the year nineteen ninety nine and being

2574
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:34,480
Speaker 1: thrown out of the bar called the Hall because I

2575
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 1: was aggressively dancing and crotch chopping on my back in

2576
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 1: the middle of the dance War, but the whole place

2577
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 1: was going nuts. I mean it was like a move.

2578
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:43,520
Speaker 1: It was like a like that scene. It can't hardly

2579
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 1: wait when the nerd is like Ginara is playing. But

2580
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:50,360
Speaker 1: here's why that stands out for many wrong ways. Why

2581
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 1: that night standing out, including I grew up in a

2582
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:56,839
Speaker 1: place I shouldn't have, was we've all had really bad hangovers.

2583
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 1: We have twenty four hour hangovers. This was almost two

2584
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 1: full days, where like a day and three quarters later

2585
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:05,840
Speaker 1: I was still throwing up from it from you know,

2586
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 1: that's pure alcohol poison that is that's bad. It was bad.

2587
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 1: It's alcohol poisoning. Like that's you know, call out of

2588
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: work for about three four days type of bad. You know,

2589
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 1: like to just recovery.

2590
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, if you're that bad, you

2591
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:17,840
Speaker 4: nearly died. I mean it's a little strong, but you

2592
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:21,960
Speaker 4: weren't too far from it. I've had two really bad

2593
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 4: hangovers and the common denominator for both of them was

2594
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 4: the jacuzzie. So what ended up happening was you get

2595
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 4: drunk and then you dehydrate from being in the jacuzzie,

2596
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 4: and then you get out and it's just it is death.

2597
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 4: But the worst one was my first ever Colombian wedding.

2598
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 1: Oh boy, and what was the culprit? The culprit was

2599
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 1: the fucking groom. Oh, it wasn't the specific alcohol. Just

2600
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 1: like I never drink vodka again after that night.

2601
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 4: He was the groom who got married. He was my

2602
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 4: wife was a friend of me. They were their childhood friends.

2603
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 4: And he, you know, he wanted he in fairness, he

2604
01:55:57,800 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 4: wanted me to have a good time at his wedding.

2605
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 4: And like, you know, dude, Hispanic people party their fucking

2606
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 4: ass off at every age in ways that you just never.

2607
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 1: Knew Aussie's Apparently, I guess they do. My wife told me.

2608
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 4: My wife told me she when I first met her,

2609
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:13,000
Speaker 4: She's like, yeah, we party better than you guys do.

2610
01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, not really. And then I

2611
01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 4: saw it and I was like, yeah, they do. Long

2612
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 4: story short, there's a drink in Columbia. I've talked about

2613
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 4: it before, a guadadiene I never had.

2614
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 1: Is it like the Long Island iced tea where you're

2615
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:25,440
Speaker 1: just throwing They.

2616
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:27,920
Speaker 4: Drink it in shots, But I didn't know how to

2617
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 4: consume it, so I was almost guzzling it. And then

2618
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 4: I got into later on the place we were staying.

2619
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 4: I got into the jacuzzi. Dude, I could not move.

2620
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 4: I had to touch my wife and beg her to

2621
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:42,560
Speaker 4: go get me like a leave or Thailand or something

2622
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 4: so I could move.

2623
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 1: I vomited all over the bed. I vomited. I'll never

2624
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 1: drink that drink again. When you get when you get

2625
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 1: knocked the f out by a specific it's really hard

2626
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 1: to ever get back on that train for like at

2627
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 1: least a decade. Sometimes you gotta swear off that specific

2628
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 1: thing that got I.

2629
01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:57,920
Speaker 4: Don't really drink it. I will say though, that the

2630
01:56:57,960 --> 01:56:59,720
Speaker 4: most embarrassing one I ever had was I got super

2631
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 4: d g at Hogs and Heifer's here in New York.

2632
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 1: You ever been there?

2633
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:04,680
Speaker 4: No Hogs and Heifers was where they shot like the

2634
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 4: real or the original movie, the Coyote Ugly movie, And

2635
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 4: they hang bras on the window of the.

2636
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 1: Thing, so you go to.

2637
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 4: But people don't realize Hogs and Heifers is a biker bar.

2638
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 4: And I don't know what happened, but I got thrown

2639
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 4: out of Hogs and Heifers. I don't remember why. It

2640
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 4: could be bad, I don't know, but I lived.

2641
01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 1: I didn't have a black eye or nothing one day

2642
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 1: you'll get me.

2643
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:24,120
Speaker 4: But this is true story. My buddy lived down in

2644
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 4: Greenwich Village, not far from Bleaker Street Pizza, and I'll

2645
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 4: never forget. I was laying on the ground like this,

2646
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 4: and I had like stuff poking into my face.

2647
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was.

2648
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 4: We we tried to get back to his house, his apartment,

2649
01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 4: and we couldn't get in. So he was sleeping in

2650
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:39,840
Speaker 4: front of the elevator and I was sleeping in front

2651
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 4: of the door. I was on the door mats. The end,

2652
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 4: this is true story. The NYPD had to take a

2653
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 4: night stick and poke me to wake me.

2654
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 1: Your hangover must have been brewt tall that day. It

2655
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:54,840
Speaker 1: was life altering. So fucking you ever been shut out

2656
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 1: by one where you just might really don't care for

2657
01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 1: a week.

2658
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 6: I don't have a good hangover story.

2659
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 7: I have plenty of good like night stories, but I

2660
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:03,920
Speaker 7: really as far as bad hangovers, no plussy.

2661
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:05,720
Speaker 1: Here you go. Do we have any more of than DMS?

2662
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 1: Or is that it?

2663
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 6: No?

2664
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 1: That's it all right, Let's get into my shiah. You

2665
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:10,680
Speaker 1: know what I do every star. Thank you for your questions.

2666
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 1: By the way, people users will see you Friday with

2667
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 1: that uh with that with fantoms, I scot with the

2668
01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 1: internet though yesterday for the highs and lows, the good,

2669
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 1: the bad, the ugly in between. In the world of

2670
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 1: combat sports and beyond, we call this stuff BC's feces.

2671
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:25,320
Speaker 1: Have you seen it?

2672
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 2: All? Right?

2673
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 1: We've had a few B and B plus grades from

2674
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 1: Luke lately on suit. Let's see what we got today.

2675
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 1: UFC three twelve, big weekend for is he out of

2676
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 1: Syna real recognizing real? As is he in du Bronx

2677
01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:47,480
Speaker 1: apparently meet for the first lot of healing going on?

2678
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:50,880
Speaker 1: I know is he also met with DDP after his

2679
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 1: fight and Mark Oddard I mentioned it.

2680
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:56,760
Speaker 4: And Perreira we talk about this. Is Charles Olivera the

2681
01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 4: most liked man in MMA?

2682
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:00,760
Speaker 1: He might be, he's climbing that list in my fast

2683
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:02,400
Speaker 1: but like the I love when you see the respect

2684
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 1: from each other, for sure, I love that fish. Let's

2685
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:18,000
Speaker 1: keep it going. It was Trauma Timemo trauma. So Perera

2686
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 1: was overheard telling is He that he wants to train

2687
01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 1: and like share their secrets with each other. Dude, I'm

2688
01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 1: telling you, is he who is back? Dude? Is he

2689
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:28,680
Speaker 1: settled with Rob? He's settling with Alex like he doesn't

2690
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 1: need to have a company wide counter to like the

2691
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:36,000
Speaker 1: Strickland Covington gross side of the sport where it's like

2692
01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:37,440
Speaker 1: constant negative and I.

2693
01:59:37,480 --> 01:59:40,160
Speaker 4: Mean, who knows what Alex Perera really believes about things.

2694
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 4: But it's nice to see.

2695
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm I'm really enjoying this section of the show.

2696
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:46,160
Speaker 1: I enjoyed this a lot though you f C two

2697
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 1: thirty six, No, we did it. Congrats to you, man,

2698
01:59:56,160 --> 01:59:57,760
Speaker 1: it takes two to tango. You know, a great South

2699
01:59:57,760 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 1: of partner.

2700
01:59:58,280 --> 02:00:00,720
Speaker 10: Man, Thank you so much what I said on the mic,

2701
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:02,720
Speaker 10: on the on the camera when they when they put

2702
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:03,360
Speaker 10: on the screen, I was right.

2703
02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:04,880
Speaker 1: Tell them that was up.

2704
02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:05,840
Speaker 13: That was you and me and.

2705
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:13,080
Speaker 1: You're a special human being. I'll see you in June.

2706
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 13: Yeah, for the ceremony, I think so for the Hall

2707
02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 13: of Fame ceremony in June.

2708
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:22,440
Speaker 1: Dude, I love Bushido. It's so back right now again,

2709
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:24,720
Speaker 1: can they just bang because I'm this is where this

2710
02:00:24,840 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 1: is where the word we'll end. I mean, that's about where. Seriously,

2711
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 1: you know how much I love that fight. Jed was

2712
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:32,600
Speaker 1: in the building, Aaron bronsent night for you. Yeah, how

2713
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:36,440
Speaker 1: was the highlight of the pay per view Holloway pot

2714
02:00:36,520 --> 02:00:37,600
Speaker 1: A two is awesome, you know.

2715
02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:39,800
Speaker 4: I'm saying on Saturday, Oh, that was the big moment.

2716
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:41,440
Speaker 1: Yes, that was the highlight. I mean, did you see

2717
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:43,320
Speaker 1: is he like he was almost like he was ready

2718
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:46,600
Speaker 1: to tear up, you know what I mean. I'm so

2719
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:49,000
Speaker 1: happy they gave it that that stamp.

2720
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:50,720
Speaker 4: I agree. I think if you're gonna put one in,

2721
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:51,720
Speaker 4: that's a great one to put in.

2722
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,080
Speaker 1: That put it, please put it in. Let's go to

2723
02:00:54,200 --> 02:00:56,640
Speaker 1: UF six three twelve. We've got more talking about real

2724
02:00:56,680 --> 02:01:04,280
Speaker 1: recognizing real. Watch this, Luke, I'm hearing you feel what

2725
02:01:04,360 --> 02:01:04,760
Speaker 1: I feel it.

2726
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:12,040
Speaker 4: That's the opposite of what I got. They're gonna have dinner.

2727
02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:15,800
Speaker 1: Look at this. Everybody gets treated nicely except your boy.

2728
02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:18,560
Speaker 1: It's fucking awesome. Well, Volkanovski didn't just get this. He

2729
02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 1: got this and then some from a fan. Let's listen.

2730
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:23,120
Speaker 4: I'm the guy with a picture of you in my car.

2731
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:24,280
Speaker 4: How good is that?

2732
02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:24,840
Speaker 1: I love him?

2733
02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:29,040
Speaker 12: I'm dm you're gonna get booed dogs. I'm just wondering both.

2734
02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 12: I love you, You're my idol. I'm just wondering, man, like,

2735
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 12: if you're free next week or at any point to

2736
02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:38,120
Speaker 12: hang out or maybe grab across law.

2737
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:39,360
Speaker 7: I love to go.

2738
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:42,680
Speaker 1: Did we just ask you on a date? Yes, I did,

2739
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:44,959
Speaker 1: Carol tough.

2740
02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:49,600
Speaker 12: Abuse, I love him, Pard Alex go on a date

2741
02:01:49,640 --> 02:01:49,960
Speaker 12: with him.

2742
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:53,160
Speaker 4: You gotta give him a try, Alex.

2743
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 1: Oh way, was this real? Yeah? I mean I'm married, dude.

2744
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:01,920
Speaker 1: First of all, Titovas is getting after it.

2745
02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:03,720
Speaker 4: First of all, tai Vasa is so fat.

2746
02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:06,400
Speaker 1: Wow, he's I'm not even cool to see him in

2747
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:07,600
Speaker 1: the crowd with his son though. That was that was

2748
02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 1: He seems like he's enjoying life and I don't want

2749
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:11,880
Speaker 1: to get in the way of that. But Volge fan

2750
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 1: wanted to absolutely bang him. These guys.

2751
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:17,360
Speaker 4: I remember Junior Do Santos one time told me he's like, dude,

2752
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 4: the only people who ever asked me for photos are

2753
02:02:20,280 --> 02:02:23,400
Speaker 4: other guys, And I'm like, that's who watches the sport

2754
02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:24,320
Speaker 4: Brothers right there.

2755
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:26,920
Speaker 1: We also had a w TF moment from the UFC

2756
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:30,760
Speaker 1: way and show. Look at this at the bottom, like,

2757
02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:33,040
Speaker 1: why would that be on my Yeah, I mean why

2758
02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 1: would that? You know, you would not want to see

2759
02:02:34,720 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 1: a rematch of Tatana Suarez in cancer?

2760
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:37,800
Speaker 14: No, Like I don't.

2761
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:42,120
Speaker 1: Understand I did they even say that outloud? That's really

2762
02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:42,600
Speaker 1: kind of rough.

2763
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:44,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's all that funny,

2764
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:47,160
Speaker 4: but listen, we live in we live in the goon

2765
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:49,160
Speaker 4: edge lord era, and I don't think those guys are

2766
02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:52,400
Speaker 4: goons on edge. Whoever wrote that didn't think that cool.

2767
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:55,160
Speaker 4: List I don't mind the attempt at humor, but there's.

2768
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:57,120
Speaker 1: Got to be a little bit editing at it. Yeah. Yeah. Also,

2769
02:02:57,280 --> 02:02:59,640
Speaker 1: Luke Big signing for the GFL overnight. Did you see

2770
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:09,760
Speaker 1: this Helio Gracie Big lightweight? Wee looke, let's go to

2771
02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:11,800
Speaker 1: the ko of the week, we go regional. This is

2772
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:14,720
Speaker 1: l f A and this is Lannie Silva.

2773
02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:16,560
Speaker 4: All right, she fainted the rear high kick.

2774
02:03:16,640 --> 02:03:18,400
Speaker 1: Let's see. Are the fan of the rear kick anyway?

2775
02:03:19,160 --> 02:03:24,120
Speaker 4: Against she's leaning forward. That's a nice one.

2776
02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:25,040
Speaker 1: It's beautiful.

2777
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:26,680
Speaker 4: That one's not too hard.

2778
02:03:26,920 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 1: Also, Luke, this wasn't a sanctioned fight, but the greatest

2779
02:03:30,280 --> 02:03:33,120
Speaker 1: featherweight of all time is moving again. He's up, He's

2780
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 1: up off the bed. Okay? Is that is that Abraham

2781
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:40,600
Speaker 1: motherfucking Lincoln? Look AT's beat Mago med cher apogy and

2782
02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:43,320
Speaker 1: everyone's like, dude, bring him back. And I'm like, if

2783
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:45,360
Speaker 1: he ever comes back, he should get an instant title

2784
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:47,320
Speaker 1: shot and get the same treatment that Hoyst Gracie did

2785
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:49,240
Speaker 1: when they brought him back to face Matt Hughes just like,

2786
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:51,840
Speaker 1: we don't even care condition you're in. We just want

2787
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:54,839
Speaker 1: to see sends him to the land of wind and ghosts.

2788
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:58,840
Speaker 1: Book would back beat so hard Long Island, Luke. I

2789
02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 1: think I can convince you back me, because I know

2790
02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 1: you'd pick me c But who would you back to win?

2791
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 6: I need like a tune up fight before the immediate.

2792
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:14,240
Speaker 1: Badly we we don't know yet, but.

2793
02:04:14,720 --> 02:04:17,000
Speaker 6: The odds would would could sway me to z beat.

2794
02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:17,840
Speaker 6: You know, if he's like.

2795
02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:22,400
Speaker 1: You low level priming. Wow, he's just from Long Island.

2796
02:04:22,400 --> 02:04:24,240
Speaker 1: He's a nice is going to send him to the

2797
02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:26,560
Speaker 1: shadow realm if it ever happens. All right, you're head

2798
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:31,280
Speaker 1: of the week, though it takes us to the rugby field, right.

2799
02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:42,520
Speaker 1: I think this is right as you got jacked up, sir, Wow,

2800
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:45,240
Speaker 1: my man got up.

2801
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:47,680
Speaker 4: But holy fucking ship.

2802
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 1: Now, Luke, this next video may not match your experience,

2803
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:52,960
Speaker 1: but when I watch the bullshit game, no, my god,

2804
02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:56,800
Speaker 1: it's crazy. This is equivalent to Luke attempting to sleep

2805
02:04:56,840 --> 02:05:00,400
Speaker 1: at night while in the Marines. Bro How but sit

2806
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:03,800
Speaker 1: us on the fucking turn. I'm just sitting here for

2807
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:13,040
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. Another fucking jay. Dude, Thomas, you're gonna uh Thomas,

2808
02:05:13,080 --> 02:05:15,080
Speaker 1: you want to get in on his Osborne action? No, No,

2809
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:17,520
Speaker 1: I know, I do not. Wow. Look, I think it's

2810
02:05:17,560 --> 02:05:19,480
Speaker 1: time we had an honest talk on the show about racism.

2811
02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:24,560
Speaker 1: How about you? Okay, I can't read that. Show me

2812
02:05:24,840 --> 02:05:31,360
Speaker 1: your tits if you hate racism. See that is how we.

2813
02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 4: Heal right, pro titties, anti racism. That's the LT message

2814
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:35,320
Speaker 4: right there.

2815
02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 1: Think about MMA and racism though they just kind of do,

2816
02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:39,760
Speaker 1: they kind of go together. Let's see this. I hope

2817
02:05:39,800 --> 02:05:40,560
Speaker 1: bus song is done.

2818
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:43,040
Speaker 14: Continue to keeping in those long tongues and those ag

2819
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:44,760
Speaker 14: gros fried a gros.

2820
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:51,040
Speaker 1: Well done on that meme.

2821
02:05:51,080 --> 02:05:54,280
Speaker 4: Whoever put that together and speaking you've seen it like

2822
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:57,240
Speaker 4: all those Osha things like days since the last accident.

2823
02:05:56,920 --> 02:06:00,240
Speaker 1: That the work is speaking of racism. We finally have

2824
02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:02,960
Speaker 1: footage of hul Cogan and the Joseph A. Banks restroom.

2825
02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:05,919
Speaker 4: Well they had they said, I hadn't take a steamer

2826
02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:09,640
Speaker 4: before I get out of here, So I've just leash

2827
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:11,600
Speaker 4: a major toxic.

2828
02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:16,240
Speaker 9: Take.

2829
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:17,360
Speaker 1: The paint starting to come.

2830
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:17,920
Speaker 13: Off the walls.

2831
02:06:18,760 --> 02:06:21,280
Speaker 1: What did he send that to? This is what is happening?

2832
02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:23,160
Speaker 1: Can we send him to Mars?

2833
02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:25,840
Speaker 4: Can we do that?

2834
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:29,400
Speaker 1: All right? Hey? You always critique pull ups. Remember when

2835
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:31,640
Speaker 1: Phil Simms of.

2836
02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:35,480
Speaker 4: Whys at like age sixty was he was doing awesome?

2837
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 4: He did zero pull ups?

2838
02:06:36,680 --> 02:06:38,240
Speaker 1: That all right? What do you think about this? Right here?

2839
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:41,440
Speaker 1: These are regular pulls. You're clean? That's clean too. Have

2840
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:42,880
Speaker 1: you ever done CrossFit pull ups?

2841
02:06:43,480 --> 02:06:45,280
Speaker 4: This is it called kipping pull ups? And he's wearing

2842
02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 4: a thong? You sick? Fuck?

2843
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 1: I think that was the joke, Luke. Sorry, I had

2844
02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:52,360
Speaker 1: a Trappi in that. Uh you know they got this

2845
02:06:52,480 --> 02:06:54,440
Speaker 1: new trend like raw dogging, Like you know, I'll go

2846
02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:56,240
Speaker 1: on a flight and I don't listen to any music

2847
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:59,920
Speaker 1: or watch anything straight straight ahead. This is what we

2848
02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:02,880
Speaker 1: used to call raw dog And wasn't it? I mean,

2849
02:07:03,160 --> 02:07:05,280
Speaker 1: what do you think of this practice? It's not hygenical.

2850
02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:08,320
Speaker 1: We shit ball, But I also don't hate it. I

2851
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:12,440
Speaker 1: also don't hate it. That's just not giving up.

2852
02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:16,040
Speaker 4: Show one more time, Show one more time. Can we

2853
02:07:16,120 --> 02:07:19,080
Speaker 4: tell where this is? This looks like a sheets Maybe

2854
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:23,200
Speaker 4: I was gonna say Cumberland farm, Cumberland farms. You think dude,

2855
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:24,960
Speaker 4: that guy and I'm not doing a bit here. He

2856
02:07:25,240 --> 02:07:27,840
Speaker 4: just got full blown aids. He just got a Wow.

2857
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Hey, let's chick in on the deer calling championships. Luke. Wow,

2858
02:07:34,280 --> 02:07:37,880
Speaker 1: my man, my man, is.

2859
02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:42,520
Speaker 4: How do you show you have that talent you know

2860
02:07:42,640 --> 02:07:43,800
Speaker 4: to somebody you just met?

2861
02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:45,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, what do you do? Oh?

2862
02:07:45,680 --> 02:07:48,200
Speaker 1: I I work in adult films. Yeah, I'm the.

2863
02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:50,840
Speaker 4: Three time deer calling champions. Like, dude, when you say

2864
02:07:50,920 --> 02:07:52,880
Speaker 4: calling deer, do you mean blowing other guys?

2865
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:57,960
Speaker 1: Hey? Smoke him if you got them time, Luke, We're

2866
02:07:57,960 --> 02:08:00,320
Speaker 1: always trying to keep create the apparatus that like kill you.

2867
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:01,880
Speaker 1: I think we found it right here.

2868
02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:04,560
Speaker 4: I am telling you get my last will and testament

2869
02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:05,120
Speaker 4: and make it.

2870
02:08:05,240 --> 02:08:07,640
Speaker 1: This are the swimming.

2871
02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:12,200
Speaker 4: This is this is the dignified end that all of

2872
02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 4: us deserve.

2873
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:13,360
Speaker 12: All right.

2874
02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:16,440
Speaker 1: Our next video comes from an actual PGA golf event.

2875
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:24,720
Speaker 1: This is a live telecast. Watch this, Oh, past the

2876
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:25,960
Speaker 1: douchy to the left side.

2877
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:28,200
Speaker 4: Look at these guys big as little blunt.

2878
02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:30,000
Speaker 1: I know it looks like your grandpa too.

2879
02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:32,760
Speaker 4: Like I tell you what, pre rolls, they don't come cheap.

2880
02:08:32,920 --> 02:08:34,960
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Look at these guys. Yeah,

2881
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:36,720
Speaker 1: that's like part of the telecast. They zoomed in too.

2882
02:08:36,760 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 4: That's what I always at a kid's party last night

2883
02:08:38,320 --> 02:08:40,040
Speaker 4: and one of the dads was just like. I was like, oh,

2884
02:08:40,040 --> 02:08:42,000
Speaker 4: you're gonna watch super Bowl tonight. He's like, no, I'm

2885
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:42,960
Speaker 4: just gonna go home and get high.

2886
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:45,760
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, all right, all right. Look, you

2887
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:47,480
Speaker 1: know the new trend or people they like try to

2888
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:49,040
Speaker 1: get people to try to fight them just for a

2889
02:08:49,080 --> 02:08:50,840
Speaker 1: prank on the internet. If you ever try to do

2890
02:08:50,920 --> 02:09:02,320
Speaker 1: that in front of riot police, it goes badly. Go

2891
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:05,640
Speaker 1: my man thought he was the main character, not even

2892
02:09:05,720 --> 02:09:08,160
Speaker 1: the sad one. Luke nothing I like more than out

2893
02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:11,520
Speaker 1: of pocket reactions on local news telecast you into that, Okay,

2894
02:09:11,680 --> 02:09:13,520
Speaker 1: let's watch this. Were you scared at all?

2895
02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:16,880
Speaker 10: Did you, like, say, start running or take some steps back,

2896
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:18,080
Speaker 10: like or did you stop.

2897
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:20,960
Speaker 1: In your track dropping? So I was coming out of Wendy's, Okay, Yeah,

2898
02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:23,040
Speaker 1: I got a good four for four shut out to Wendy's.

2899
02:09:23,800 --> 02:09:25,400
Speaker 1: And then what's a good deal? You got to give

2900
02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:27,160
Speaker 1: him that look? I mean, I know that plane went down,

2901
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:29,840
Speaker 1: but it is a good deal, right, I'm down with

2902
02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:31,120
Speaker 1: the four for four on the wind. All right, what

2903
02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:33,200
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on leg day? Let's watch this at the.

2904
02:09:33,240 --> 02:09:35,440
Speaker 14: Time of the crash, and he's here to tell us

2905
02:09:35,480 --> 02:09:36,920
Speaker 14: what he heard, what he saw.

2906
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 6: And just his reaction to the whole thing.

2907
02:09:38,680 --> 02:09:39,520
Speaker 9: So tell us what he saw.

2908
02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:43,320
Speaker 14: So I was at the gym, you know today was

2909
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:44,280
Speaker 14: a leg day?

2910
02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:51,280
Speaker 1: Who says stuff like that? Right?

2911
02:09:51,640 --> 02:09:53,520
Speaker 4: Once again? Where is the drive by shooter when you

2912
02:09:53,600 --> 02:09:53,920
Speaker 4: need one?

2913
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:55,600
Speaker 1: All right, we got another one of these. I think

2914
02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:59,280
Speaker 1: it's a cruise longer than anticipated to find the crack

2915
02:09:59,320 --> 02:10:00,760
Speaker 1: in the sixty four pipeline.

2916
02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:03,000
Speaker 8: I'm standing here with Fred, who says he was greatly

2917
02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:04,400
Speaker 8: impacted by the gushing of oil.

2918
02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:06,080
Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little more of what you saw?

2919
02:10:06,680 --> 02:10:08,760
Speaker 1: I sure can. I was sitting on my front porch,

2920
02:10:09,280 --> 02:10:11,600
Speaker 1: grabbed a beer and fuck her right in a push.

2921
02:10:15,080 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 6: So this guy was famous for a while. He's done

2922
02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:19,400
Speaker 6: this on like ten plus news products.

2923
02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:20,040
Speaker 1: This is his bit.

2924
02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is okay, that's a that's a that's a

2925
02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:23,880
Speaker 4: great bit.

2926
02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:26,720
Speaker 1: That's not a bad bit. Yeah all right. Let's uh. Look,

2927
02:10:26,760 --> 02:10:29,080
Speaker 1: the people always say, like, would you would you accept

2928
02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:31,440
Speaker 1: this gift if it meant you could never eat cheeseburgers again?

2929
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:32,440
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, what do you think about

2930
02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:34,920
Speaker 1: this debated? Rather give up cheese or blow jobs for

2931
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:37,480
Speaker 1: the rest of your life? Blowjobs all day?

2932
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:38,360
Speaker 7: I'm the same.

2933
02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they hurt my job. It's an occupational hand your guy,

2934
02:10:45,520 --> 02:10:48,080
Speaker 1: I can understand that. Yeah, definitely, all right. You ever

2935
02:10:48,120 --> 02:10:50,120
Speaker 1: wonder what Victoria's secret actually.

2936
02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:55,800
Speaker 5: Is, Luke, I'm outside Victoria's secret. The secret is that

2937
02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:59,600
Speaker 5: I just took a diarrhea is a dressing room because

2938
02:10:59,680 --> 02:11:03,320
Speaker 5: I ate too much orange chicken at the Panda Express?

2939
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:10,880
Speaker 1: Please book a cameo Lincoln by a hashtag relatable for you?

2940
02:11:11,080 --> 02:11:11,200
Speaker 14: Right?

2941
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:14,240
Speaker 1: How does she eat orange chicken with no tea? Oh boy, yeah,

2942
02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:18,160
Speaker 1: that's a good point. Just straight nubs, just small. Yeah. Wow,

2943
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:21,040
Speaker 1: let's get flatulant here to close the show. What do

2944
02:11:21,120 --> 02:11:21,520
Speaker 1: we got.

2945
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:23,120
Speaker 9: Hey?

2946
02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:24,280
Speaker 1: Ty m.

2947
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:34,000
Speaker 14: Oh?

2948
02:11:37,360 --> 02:11:38,160
Speaker 1: That makes you arouse?

2949
02:11:40,520 --> 02:11:42,640
Speaker 4: Can we send them to Guantanamo Bay? I don't know

2950
02:11:42,680 --> 02:11:43,839
Speaker 4: their immigration status?

2951
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:46,160
Speaker 1: All right, watch this trick you can pull on your

2952
02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:48,480
Speaker 1: neighbors next time. I'm random dude's window.

2953
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:11,600
Speaker 4: H Hello, how is that not terrorism?

2954
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:12,280
Speaker 1: That's great?

2955
02:12:12,360 --> 02:12:13,879
Speaker 4: So is this one that's terrorism?

2956
02:12:14,520 --> 02:12:15,720
Speaker 6: Stop stop filming me?

2957
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:17,240
Speaker 1: What is your problem?

2958
02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:21,440
Speaker 4: Or do not do not touch reporting?

2959
02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:27,800
Speaker 2: Mhm.

2960
02:12:30,720 --> 02:12:32,760
Speaker 1: We'll close with the winking of the drive by shooter

2961
02:12:32,840 --> 02:12:35,480
Speaker 1: I was looking for. We'll close with the worst boyfriend ever.

2962
02:12:35,720 --> 02:12:38,840
Speaker 7: Hi, dad, this is my boyfriend Jacob. Say, hi, introduce you.

2963
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:43,520
Speaker 1: Introduce yourself. Hey, I'm Jacob. Fuse from to say.

2964
02:12:44,120 --> 02:12:46,680
Speaker 7: Say something about yourself, like something nice.

2965
02:12:47,960 --> 02:12:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm I lay Pipe, I'm a rizzler, and I love

2966
02:12:52,240 --> 02:13:01,280
Speaker 1: Big Justice. Were close home, guys, I say something else?

2967
02:13:04,840 --> 02:13:05,240
Speaker 4: What's up?

2968
02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:05,440
Speaker 14: Man?

2969
02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:09,640
Speaker 1: You should have another daughter?

2970
02:13:09,720 --> 02:13:10,280
Speaker 7: So I have a three.

2971
02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:16,080
Speaker 1: That's all the ship we got this week. Luke, do

2972
02:13:16,160 --> 02:13:17,720
Speaker 1: we get it? Do we get an? Okay? Great? Or

2973
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:20,640
Speaker 1: did it? Did it die? At the end? It was great.

2974
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:23,760
Speaker 4: The problem is I just had a moment where I'm like,

2975
02:13:23,840 --> 02:13:25,880
Speaker 4: oh my god, is Ville that's gonna bring home a

2976
02:13:25,960 --> 02:13:28,560
Speaker 4: loser like this? Yes, And I'm gonna have to sit

2977
02:13:28,600 --> 02:13:30,800
Speaker 4: here and I'll kill I'll kill him, motherfucker.

2978
02:13:30,840 --> 02:13:33,840
Speaker 1: He talks to me, Okay, all right, all right, you know,

2979
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:35,000
Speaker 1: all hold on there, sir.

2980
02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:37,800
Speaker 4: Oh wow, don't be talking to two or me like that.

2981
02:13:38,160 --> 02:13:40,880
Speaker 1: That's just a reminder of Today's episode of Morning Combat

2982
02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:43,720
Speaker 1: was brought to you by Draft Kings. Yes with Draft Kings,

2983
02:13:43,800 --> 02:13:48,160
Speaker 1: the Crown is yours. Thank you for watching today on YouTube.

2984
02:13:48,200 --> 02:13:51,360
Speaker 1: We're alive on the Draft Kings Network. You can follow

2985
02:13:51,440 --> 02:13:53,680
Speaker 1: us at the social channels. Well, please like and subscribe.

2986
02:13:53,720 --> 02:13:56,600
Speaker 1: It goes further than you'd actually think. It goes to

2987
02:13:56,760 --> 02:14:00,560
Speaker 1: Freddy Links if you will, will you? That's I mean,

2988
02:14:01,440 --> 02:14:02,000
Speaker 1: like have you thought?

2989
02:14:02,120 --> 02:14:02,320
Speaker 7: I mean?

2990
02:14:02,360 --> 02:14:05,280
Speaker 1: It's good anyway, follow our YouTube channels too, Luke, do

2991
02:14:05,280 --> 02:14:07,040
Speaker 1: you want to give any message to these folks as

2992
02:14:07,080 --> 02:14:08,880
Speaker 1: we leave? When we gave them two hours of the

2993
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:10,320
Speaker 1: best fifteen minutes they ever had?

2994
02:14:10,440 --> 02:14:10,520
Speaker 13: Right?

2995
02:14:10,640 --> 02:14:14,480
Speaker 4: Thanks everyone who watched today. We'll be back on Friday

2996
02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:17,600
Speaker 4: to talk about that nubs ass card. Oh.

2997
02:14:17,680 --> 02:14:20,640
Speaker 1: Shout out to Derek Tasoro over the weekend turning back

2998
02:14:20,680 --> 02:14:21,040
Speaker 1: time and.

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Speaker 4: He went for it. Yeah, he went for it.

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Speaker 1: I give him credit. He went for it. Now he

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Speaker 1: wants his fiftieth to be against Enganu and Africa and

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Speaker 1: then retire on that not the worst idea? That the

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Speaker 1: worst idea? Interesting? Maybe put DDP on that card?

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Speaker 4: Uh, find out realize that if you could do that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Thank you to Long Island Luke for working on

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Speaker 1: the show, Ken and Nader, all the people that make

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Speaker 1: this Engine run, Engine Run. And shout out to our

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Speaker 1: producer Matt's new son baby Calm. Yeah who we hear

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Speaker 1: is doing well. We wish him very well on the

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Speaker 1: future prospects of his life, including dose trading. So thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. That's all the show we got for

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Speaker 1: LT This is BC. Take care of yourself up here.

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Speaker 1: We're big fans of you guys. Thanks for tuning in

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Speaker 1: to us. And remember what should they do? Anything? Can

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Speaker 1: we fucking go? Should they remember? Okay, that's it? The name, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the name. Yeah, there you go. Thank you