WEBVTT - Wayne Knight on Seinfeld, Jurassic Park, Basic Instinct and more! 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:07.400 Now really, really. 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:11.320 Now really hello, and welcome to Really Know Really with 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.000 Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden, who both invite you to 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:16.360 subscribe to our show. You don't even have to mail 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.400 anything in, just push the subscribe button. And speaking of mail, 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.400 today's episode could be titled Hello Newman, because the internationally 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.400 beloved actor Wayne Knight visits Really No Really to talk 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:30.560 about his iconic roles, including Seinfeld's scheming mailman Newman and 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.640 the techno was Dennis Nedrie in the original Jurassic Park. 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:36.160 We and also discusses getting work based on his weight, 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.760 being held hostage on the set of Oliver Stone's JFK, 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.800 the bizarre audition that got him his part in Basic Instinct, 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.000 the disgusting reality of being spit on by a dinosaur. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.760 Here's Jason and Peter. You didn't want the ball? 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.839 I think the bell has been a major assets to 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:51.720 the show and annoying. 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:57.280 Really no Um In nineteen fifty seven on radio that 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:01.160 was a very powerful tonic THO today, well you would 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:01.880 you would know. 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.560 Hell, And I was going to say it, I. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.160 Always love when they get to see the real you. 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:10.920 Yeah. 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.600 So what I love today is that I feel at 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:17.399 home because a person that I was happy to work with. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.199 Has joined us today, someone who. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:26.720 I admired and respect on the sill of one time. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.200 We can shut it down now you want, but a 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.640 man who's a deposit for the mics and the cameras, and. 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.760 A man who whose work I was aware of long 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:40.920 before he became a national and national international iconic figure. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.000 I was aware of this man's work upon the Broadway stage. 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.160 I was a huge fan. I was very excited when 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:51.760 we actually maid our acquaintance professionally for nine years on 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.440 the number one hit comedy of the of the nineties 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.440 and today I was stilled. 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.000 To make his acquaintance because and people say that he's 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.080 one of the funniest guys. I know this is truly 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.000 in conversation I break up I could be talking about. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.280 Before we sat down in front of these mics, We've 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.919 already had four things he said that I could write 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:12.280 down and go. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:13.120 I'm using that. 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.040 He's a joy as a smart man, as you know, 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:20.520 can talk about see and an extremely funny man. You 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.239 all know him. I think everybody knows. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:28.639 The temptation is to say hello newman, but we're gonna say. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.840 Hello to our friend, mister Wayne Knight. Welcome to really really, sir. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.640 Bless You're exciting to see the COVID God, we've lost 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:36.800 touch with so many people. 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:41.639 Ever since COVID, I have not been the same. I've 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:46.200 become some of the Diamond. The Diamond was a famous 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:47.440 actress and comedian. 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:51.040 There you go. So how are you? 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:51.200 Bro? 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:53.720 You know, I've talked to you recently because we were 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.079 working on something together that nothing to new show business. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.760 But I haven't seen you since really since the pandemic began. 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.560 How yeah, how is life? What's going on? 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.840 I know you're working, you gotta, you're in a show, 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:09.560 and you're I'm not always working. I'm always not working, 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.560 but now I am. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:12.400 Yeah. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:17.320 Anyway, but was it? Was it? 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.160 But you know, but that's so interesting because I knew so, 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.480 you know, we do a little bit of research about 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:25.280 all of our guests, and I knew some of this 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:30.880 stuff about you. But you had such a kind of crazy, rich, 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:35.080 diverse life around what we know you for as an 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.280 actor that I almost want to I want to start 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.880 by going, if you if this hadn't happened for you acting, 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.520 what did you want to do? When did you go? Oh, 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.520 I'm going to be an actor and what else was 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:46.560 on the table when you. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.400 A biochemistry. 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:52.680 I don't doubt it because I but I'm not just 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:53.760 saying this to be nice. 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:55.080 I've had. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.760 One of the things I've enjoyed so much about being 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.520 around you all these years is you are legit intimately 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.800 one of the most intelligent, well read, fascinating people. 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:05.040 I know. I'm not. 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.680 I don't you strike me as as I'm a functioning idiot. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:13.800 I don't read. What I do is I listen to conversations, 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.080 repeat them as if they were mine. 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:20.520 Oh good, then leave the room quickly. What that does is. 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.760 It create impression, the opression of I do the I 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.719 do impressions of intelligent people. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:27.280 You know this is taking me back to phone calls. 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.719 Wayne would take you up like I gotta go. 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.440 You just got to leave quickly. Don't stay too long 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:35.279 after the intelligence Wait. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:39.320 A minute before acting. You were a private investigator. 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.359 Yes, how five years I was a p I in 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:41.800 New York. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:43.440 I got it here. 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.400 I can't and I knew. I knew this because you 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:51.120 had told me that before. But you have to say it, 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.080 say it so. 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.640 It's pretty he was a private investigator because I know 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:00.200 it you're the one. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:01.800 You know, like, when when is this going to go 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:06.120 digitif out? Do you really think the analog belt works? 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:07.080 I think it's so. 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:12.920 Fashioned, you know what? Investigator? 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.200 Oh no, but but the thing is that here's the thing. 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.240 So I'm an actor, right, and uh I did a 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:23.280 Broadway show and uh one of my cast mates. You know, 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.320 we're young, we're in our twenties. So when you crap 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.919 out after that, you still grab out. You know, you 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.000 think this is going to be a continuant and I'm 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.400 gonna last forever. Yes, so I didn't want to wait 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.120 tables again. I had you know, I'd been on Broadway 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.600 and stuff, and and I had a friend. He says, Oh, 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.800 I got a great job. Yeah, what do you do? 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:47.719 He goes, I'm I'm a private investigator. What you don't 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:51.920 have any criminology background. You never were a policeman. You 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:56.719 don't know anything about this. He goes, that's right. How 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.760 are you these people? Why why would hire said they 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.919 like actors? Why do they like actors? They're not upwardly mobile, 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.880 they don't want a full time job, and they're totally unscrupulous. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:15.440 That's correct. They're willing to lie about themselves. Add infinitum. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.360 You know, I mean, I've been building resumes my entire life, 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:20.960 so why not just build an entire character that was 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.440 fake and then walking the door. And that's what I 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.880 wound up doing. And I did it on phone and 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.680 I did it in person, and I talked to like 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:36.960 uh admirals, heads of industry, uh senators, getting references on people. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.880 I found out that somebody had been in a mental 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.280 hospital the previous summer and they were trying to get 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.919 a job as a startup engineer at a nuclear plants. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.680 Then then I'm like, so proud of myself and he 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.920 was I'm not even and he got shocked and everything. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:06.200 Then the phone rings and it's the candidate, the guy 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:10.440 who's trying to get the job, and he goes, I'm 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.680 so thankful to you. I've been hoping that a headhunter 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.640 would come around. Nobody's ever had any interest in me. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.760 For two years, I haven't been able to get a job. 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:26.680 Oh oh oh god. Oh yeah, so before Google listen 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.480 is before the internet. Here a gumshoe, you're running around 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:30.000 doing everything. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.600 Oh I remember I had one where I'm well, I'll 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.880 give you the whole shmear. We were doing this for 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:40.040 an arbitragure right, who has a lot of money and 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.520 he has no pair, an Irish old pair who's in 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.560 his home taking care of his kids. A very attractive 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:50.480 young Irish woman. And he says to his wife, you know, uh, 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:55.400 Mara is so talented and so clever. I think we're 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:59.360 doing her disservice by having her be here in the house. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.080 I should bring her down to the office and give 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:06.080 her a real job. I think that she can go far. Okay, hey, 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.680 So she goes down there and of course gets immediately pregnant, 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:15.640 but she is a Catholic girl and she will not 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:20.000 have an abortion. Right, So the arbitrager sets her up 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.680 in Red Hook, Brooklyn, because God knows, you can't get 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.680 through it. You can't get away from her. So we'll 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.720 just stasher over there in Red Hook, and maybe, you know, 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:33.040 she'll go away. So then they hire us to follow her. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:37.559 The wife finds out about this somehow, because he tells 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.680 a wife, listen, I think that the only thing I 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.840 can do is like four days a week, I'll be 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:44.800 with you three days a week. I'll check in on her, 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:46.840 just to make sure she's not doing anything, you know. 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.920 And so the wife hires us to follow her because 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.120 she might be cheating on him, and if she's cheating 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.320 on him, he might drump, you know, dump her. So 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.760 I'm following her. I'm in Red Hook in the rain 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.559 and February. Uh, there's a there's a three legged dog 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:08.720 walking by, and I hated this. She's pure as the 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.800 driven snow. This girl. I fire follow her from miles 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.840 from restaurant, the restaurant, whatever and whatever, whatever, there's nothing 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.760 wrong with her. Meanwhile, the wife says that she wants 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:24.560 to hire us to follow the husband. Then the husband 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:29.199 sees the wife the people following him, and he believes 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.200 that the wife is colluding with the girl for a 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:37.480 divorce settlement. So we're hired by the wife. By the 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:42.800 husband that the wife begins to have an affair with 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.760 the head of the detective agency and has lunchtime owners 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:50.680 with hih my god, really, I'm telling you, how could 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:51.760 I leave this job? 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.360 In New York Times unbelievable. Now you have to sit 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:57.880 there like a three If they're up till three in 0:09:57.920 --> 0:09:59.240 the morning, you're there till three in the morning. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.320 Well, you have this thing, you know, you put your 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.600 you put your SODA's under the car if it's winter, 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.200 you know, instead of hot coffee, you have your cold 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.280 soda under the thing. You have a sandwich, you got 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.480 your thing, you got you know, you're all decked out, 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.400 you're waiting there. The worst thing that could happen is 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:14.520 that they leave the house. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:15.480 Because then you gotta move. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.480 You gotta move, you know, and we don't have we 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.040 don't have cell phones in those days, so you gotta 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.080 move and get from to a payphone or whatever the hell. 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.600 You don't know what. We're a walking twice one or two. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.880 In every show, even the best show, when you leave, 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.920 they look around and there's a car there with you 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.080 guys sitting in there. It's so obvious. And then you 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.920 pull out and it's one two they pull out. How 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:41.640 do you do that? 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.480 In real life, you realize that people don't think they're 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:49.600 being followed all the time. So if you are standing 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.840 next to somebody in an elevator, they don't go, are 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:52.480 you following me? 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:53.120 You know? 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:53.960 No, I'm not. 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.280 They don't think that way, all right. That makes that 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.959 makes five years. 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:05.400 Five years, yes, And you know I eventually I didn't 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.680 get fined. I had to leave because my landlord was 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:13.480 also my boss, the head of the detective agency. It 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:14.480 was also my landlord. 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:16.960 You dropped a bomb right before we started going. 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.840 Saying I was talking to you and we were talking 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:22.720 about weight loss and character and can you keep a job? 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.000 Do people hire you once you look because they think 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.920 you're not funny? And you said, my first job ever 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:29.760 was on Broadway wearing a fat suit. 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.280 Yeah, I think I saw this, was that Gemino? Yeah, yeah, 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.320 I was in a fat suit padded to a fifty 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.440 four inch waist. At the time, I had like a 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.760 thirty six inch wiste. I had to eat a plate 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:49.600 of spaghetti and jelly donut eight times a week. And 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:56.000 the prop man on the show was a psychopath. And 0:11:56.040 --> 0:12:00.400 what he would do is not cook the spaghetti and 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:04.160 arrange it so that it looked cooked and then like 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.520 put some hot sauce under it. So this besteam come 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:12.920 and you'll be like and stale donuts. And I would 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.320 have to like bring him gifts and beg that he'd 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.760 be nice to me because they wouldn't fire him. 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.120 You didn't have an equity rep because I know they're 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:25.480 so effective. Oh, they're terribly effective. Yes, Well, I I 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.640 don't think he liked me. Because I was on stage. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.079 And he was so how long did that role? 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:31.280 Though? 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.720 But I guess that that jumps to the question, Wait a. 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.560 Minute, hold on, I can't let that go by. You 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.240 did that show for three years, three years over a 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:49.520 thousand performers. Hi, Now that's unfathomable to me. I know 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.920 people do it, and they there are records that go 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.600 far beyond that for being sad people. But my god, 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.240 how did you not lose your mind? I did I 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.880 do six months? I go, please this to another act? 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.360 Oh well, wait a minute, you're talking about the producers. 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.600 For christ sakes, did that for a week? 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.800 No? When I was in the well, yeah, we could go. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.079 But when I was in Broadway Bound, yeah, right, Broadway bound, 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:12.640 I had a fourteen month contract. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.079 At the ten month mark, I knew I was not No, 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:21.160 I lost my mind. And and what's interesting is I 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.680 learned how to act and at the same time I 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:29.040 reached the threshold of my tolerance. I had to come 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.560 to a new way of doing the show, and I 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.920 did in a work for me instead of doing a show, 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:40.439 I was doing a decatalon and each of these scenes 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:44.000 became events, and I was trying to score tens on 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:48.680 each event, and it came not about the audience. It 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.120 became about me that I knew what a ten was 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.880 and I'm going for it, and if the audience don't 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.120 like it, that's their problem. But if I hit a ten, 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:57.680 it's a ten. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.600 That help reframing it that way It. 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:05.479 Did because I could get out clean from a performance 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.040 no matter what. I never had a bad It wasn't like, ah, 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.199 that the bunch of idiots, they're crazy, you know, That's 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.040 what happens in the long run. And the long run 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:18.240 people talk about how bad the audience is, right, uh, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.720 you know, and I said, I'm gonna give that up 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.080 because I don't think that's beneficial to you. Wow, you know, 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:25.280 I know what you mean. 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.680 I remember doing same play Broadway Bound, and you know, 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.640 the first six months you're going, oh, I hope they laugh, 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.560 Oh I hope they left. After six months you go 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.880 to last who care they laugh at anything? 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.120 I know that that was used to laugh. 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.480 So you do get demented, it does. It does happen. 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.280 Well, not even that, but I was working with and 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.960 you know, uh, this woman who is insane, who used 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:55.080 to she used to hawk into a curtain before she 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:59.040 went on stage, here we go, you know, and that 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.880 she would go, I'm like, ah, And so there was 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.240 a curtain with stalactites and stalagmites hanging off of it 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.000 that I would have to push out of the way 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:15.000 to get on stage. Oh my oh. We had a replacement. 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:16.920 One time. We had a guy who was replacing for 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.680 the father. He went on stage. He was wearing his 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:24.400 jacket inside out. I said to him, schmuck, you got 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:35.520 your jacket on his side out? He said, it's been established. Wait, 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:41.480 oh my god. So speaking of weight, was this the 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:45.640 show that you left college? One credit shy for what 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.560 happened is you know, I went to New York. I 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:53.320 had a you know, I'm waiting tables. I'm waiting tables 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:57.640 at Wolf's Deli across from Lincoln Center. The worst, Oh god, 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.960 I hate it. I had to wear a stupid little jacket, 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.800 and I had the cater to all these old women 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.000 who are like, I want it on the side, and 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.280 you know, it's like, yes, I'm not lean and on 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:11.000 the side. Okay, fine, So that's where when I get 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.960 the cold. But I got the job. I am wearing 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.160 the stupid little jacket. I go, excuse me, just a 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.800 moment I went out into the street through the jacket 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:22.440 into the street, never went back, just walked out of there, 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:24.600 thinking I'll never wait tables again. 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.520 Not so okay before so we'll go to the wait 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.800 thing in a minute. But and this I think is 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.960 a really no really if I got this correct, and 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.640 you before, what are you ringing before you it's a 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:38.720 preparatory really no, really, So I read and I think 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:40.360 I got it right that you were doing a sketrow 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:44.520 in England with Emma Thompson. Yes, Emma Thompson is ultimately 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.560 kind of responsible for a lot of things in your life, 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.080 and that she turned you on to Kenneth Browna, yes, 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:50.440 who gave you a game. 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:54.400 And I tried to turn her off. So Kenneth I 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.400 told him, I said, I look, if you're going to 0:16:56.440 --> 0:17:00.520 marry him, marry him like a black widow spider and 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:04.080 then eat his head, which is so sweet. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.440 So Kenneth Brona puts you in something and which got 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.960 you to Oliver Stone, which got you to Paul Verhoven, 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:11.440 which got you to Spielberg. 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.320 Yeah, well not necessarily in that order. How it how 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:20.639 it begins is I I got to Oliver Stone from 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.960 Lincoln Center and from other things, uh, from recent Brayman 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.359 and being seen, you know uh. And I remember auditioning 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:35.800 for Oliver for JFK and them saying, uh, don't be theatrical. 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:42.159 Whatever you do, don't be theatrical. He hates theatrical. What 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:46.520 do you expect me to do? Oh? Do you do? 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.040 But in any case, I went in and I gave 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:55.679 this Georgia kicker, kind of like accident, because I know 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.359 that I was looking for somebody and I growed up 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.800 in Bartokay and the Georgia. I had to do it. 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.200 So I did that accent and Oliver loved it, loved it. 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.800 That is not the actual, thank you very much. So 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.359 then I get to New Orleans to do JFK, and 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:15.000 I'm playing a real guy, this guy Numa Bertell, and 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:20.040 he's from the French Quarter. He's from the you know, hey, 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:24.320 tod Lock Hey comes from Choppatolas. He's got that kind 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.159 of the wall on stand, different kind of accent than 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.439 the when I was doing. And so I'm trying to 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.000 so I'm going to do that for me, Goes, I 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.480 don't want that, but I want what you did in 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.080 the audition, I go. But that's wrong. That's not the 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:41.679 accurate accent for this guy. I don't care I go, 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:42.439 but I do. 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:43.960 Oh. 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.120 And he hated me for the rest of the picture 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:51.680 and so he would say things to me. He would 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.600 taunt me, he would be mean to me. We would 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:56.840 be doing a scene because you have dialogue in this scene, 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:58.080 you think it can handle it. 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.480 So is this an accurate quote? When asked what it 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:14.639 was like working on Jake FK, you said, so, is 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:16.920 this an accurate quote? When asked what was like working 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:21.000 on Jake FK, you said, it's like being held hostage 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:25.880 in a bank. All did I say? That? Is it? 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:30.240 But it was dalk day afternoon. 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:34.119 It was a good picture. Oh my god. Wow. No. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.880 So uh. And on the last day he's going, uh, 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.280 you know to Laurie Metcheff, you're going to miss me. 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:40.960 When he looked at me and he goes, You're not 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:41.480 going to miss me. 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:46.280 No, uh, let me just let's me finish this area. Yes, yes, Verhoven. 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.680 You go to Verhoven and you're in the famous movie 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:50.639 which is of the Shawn some basic incident. 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.560 Yes, well, how that happened is it is simply an 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.640 audition going into the like you're going to meet Paul Verhoven. 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.440 You're going to meet him in a hotel room. It's 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.760 one of those I'm like, oh great, okay, all right, So, 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.000 like you know, I go up the stairs and waiting 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.560 at the door, and the door open and he's there 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:15.200 with a camera. Hello, Yes you're coming, come in, Come in. 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:19.280 All right, okay, look into the camera. Okay, okay, all right, 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:24.800 look closer. Okay. Now maybe you do a. 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:31.520 Lick with your lips. Okay, you do a lick, but good, good, good, 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:35.359 good good. Maybe you do another lick, maybe the lick lick. 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:40.919 Then I go lick lick mm hmmm, yes, but now 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.040 maybe you do a third lick lick, click, dick, and 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.959 I go like, lick go no, too many licks. 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:53.159 And this was your reaction and you supposed to be 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.520 you looking at her in that famous scene. Now is 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:58.760 it true? Because I know people probably asking then times 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.480 what did you see? You had you were looking into it? 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:02.359 I was looking. 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.320 I saw the mac box, I mean the camera. I 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.240 got a panavision camera like an inch from my face, 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.280 you know, and everybody else is going we and I'm 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:13.520 just like, hey, you know, I don't see nothing. 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:16.040 So you didn't see nothing, but you sweated like was she. 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.920 Even on the set when you were doing no No? 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.560 So there's there's that yes. And then because of all the. 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.720 Can you imagine this sense memory it took to come up. 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:29.760 With that sweat to really feel like you were looking 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:33.040 at me. Yes, Spielberg saw your sweating and you were 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:34.600 the first one cast in the Jurassic Park. 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.399 This is this is what I was told that he 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.640 like he saw me in in basic instinct and thought, 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:43.119 what if that were a dinosaur instead of a you know, 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:49.600 a wide open vagina? And uh and so no, literally 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.199 I got cast. I had an agent at Gersha at 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:58.480 the time, who said, are you sitting down? I said no, no, 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:04.239 but I will if you'd like cases Steven Spielberg and 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:09.240