Speaker 1: Now really, really.
Speaker 2: Now really hello, and welcome to Really Know Really with
Speaker 2: Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden, who both invite you to
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Speaker 2: today's episode could be titled Hello Newman, because the internationally
Speaker 2: beloved actor Wayne Knight visits Really No Really to talk
Speaker 2: about his iconic roles, including Seinfeld's scheming mailman Newman and
Speaker 2: the techno was Dennis Nedrie in the original Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2: We and also discusses getting work based on his weight,
Speaker 2: being held hostage on the set of Oliver Stone's JFK,
Speaker 2: the bizarre audition that got him his part in Basic Instinct,
Speaker 2: the disgusting reality of being spit on by a dinosaur.
Speaker 3: Here's Jason and Peter. You didn't want the ball?
Speaker 1: I think the bell has been a major assets to
Speaker 1: the show and annoying.
Speaker 3: Really no Um In nineteen fifty seven on radio that
Speaker 3: was a very powerful tonic THO today, well you would
Speaker 3: you would know.
Speaker 1: Hell, And I was going to say it, I.
Speaker 3: Always love when they get to see the real you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So what I love today is that I feel at
Speaker 4: home because a person that I was happy to work with.
Speaker 1: Has joined us today, someone who.
Speaker 3: I admired and respect on the sill of one time.
Speaker 3: We can shut it down now you want, but a
Speaker 3: man who's a deposit for the mics and the cameras, and.
Speaker 4: A man who whose work I was aware of long
Speaker 4: before he became a national and national international iconic figure.
Speaker 4: I was aware of this man's work upon the Broadway stage.
Speaker 4: I was a huge fan. I was very excited when
Speaker 4: we actually maid our acquaintance professionally for nine years on
Speaker 4: the number one hit comedy of the of the nineties
Speaker 4: and today I was stilled.
Speaker 3: To make his acquaintance because and people say that he's
Speaker 3: one of the funniest guys. I know this is truly
Speaker 3: in conversation I break up I could be talking about.
Speaker 4: Before we sat down in front of these mics, We've
Speaker 4: already had four things he said that I could write
Speaker 4: down and go.
Speaker 1: I'm using that.
Speaker 3: He's a joy as a smart man, as you know,
Speaker 3: can talk about see and an extremely funny man. You
Speaker 3: all know him. I think everybody knows.
Speaker 4: The temptation is to say hello newman, but we're gonna say.
Speaker 1: Hello to our friend, mister Wayne Knight. Welcome to really really, sir.
Speaker 3: Bless You're exciting to see the COVID God, we've lost
Speaker 3: touch with so many people.
Speaker 1: Ever since COVID, I have not been the same. I've
Speaker 1: become some of the Diamond. The Diamond was a famous
Speaker 1: actress and comedian.
Speaker 3: There you go. So how are you?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 4: You know, I've talked to you recently because we were
Speaker 4: working on something together that nothing to new show business.
Speaker 4: But I haven't seen you since really since the pandemic began.
Speaker 3: How yeah, how is life? What's going on?
Speaker 1: I know you're working, you gotta, you're in a show,
Speaker 1: and you're I'm not always working. I'm always not working,
Speaker 1: but now I am.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, but was it? Was it?
Speaker 4: But you know, but that's so interesting because I knew so,
Speaker 4: you know, we do a little bit of research about
Speaker 4: all of our guests, and I knew some of this
Speaker 4: stuff about you. But you had such a kind of crazy, rich,
Speaker 4: diverse life around what we know you for as an
Speaker 4: actor that I almost want to I want to start
Speaker 4: by going, if you if this hadn't happened for you acting,
Speaker 4: what did you want to do? When did you go? Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm going to be an actor and what else was
Speaker 4: on the table when you.
Speaker 1: A biochemistry.
Speaker 4: I don't doubt it because I but I'm not just
Speaker 4: saying this to be nice.
Speaker 1: I've had.
Speaker 4: One of the things I've enjoyed so much about being
Speaker 4: around you all these years is you are legit intimately
Speaker 4: one of the most intelligent, well read, fascinating people.
Speaker 3: I know. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't you strike me as as I'm a functioning idiot.
Speaker 1: I don't read. What I do is I listen to conversations,
Speaker 1: repeat them as if they were mine.
Speaker 3: Oh good, then leave the room quickly. What that does is.
Speaker 1: It create impression, the opression of I do the I
Speaker 1: do impressions of intelligent people.
Speaker 3: You know this is taking me back to phone calls.
Speaker 3: Wayne would take you up like I gotta go.
Speaker 1: You just got to leave quickly. Don't stay too long
Speaker 1: after the intelligence Wait.
Speaker 3: A minute before acting. You were a private investigator.
Speaker 1: Yes, how five years I was a p I in
Speaker 1: New York.
Speaker 3: I got it here.
Speaker 4: I can't and I knew. I knew this because you
Speaker 4: had told me that before. But you have to say it,
Speaker 4: say it so.
Speaker 3: It's pretty he was a private investigator because I know
Speaker 3: it you're the one.
Speaker 1: You know, like, when when is this going to go
Speaker 1: digitif out? Do you really think the analog belt works?
Speaker 1: I think it's so.
Speaker 3: Fashioned, you know what? Investigator?
Speaker 1: Oh no, but but the thing is that here's the thing.
Speaker 1: So I'm an actor, right, and uh I did a
Speaker 1: Broadway show and uh one of my cast mates. You know,
Speaker 1: we're young, we're in our twenties. So when you crap
Speaker 1: out after that, you still grab out. You know, you
Speaker 1: think this is going to be a continuant and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna last forever. Yes, so I didn't want to wait
Speaker 1: tables again. I had you know, I'd been on Broadway
Speaker 1: and stuff, and and I had a friend. He says, Oh,
Speaker 1: I got a great job. Yeah, what do you do?
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm I'm a private investigator. What you don't
Speaker 1: have any criminology background. You never were a policeman. You
Speaker 1: don't know anything about this. He goes, that's right. How
Speaker 1: are you these people? Why why would hire said they
Speaker 1: like actors? Why do they like actors? They're not upwardly mobile,
Speaker 1: they don't want a full time job, and they're totally unscrupulous.
Speaker 1: That's correct. They're willing to lie about themselves. Add infinitum.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I've been building resumes my entire life,
Speaker 1: so why not just build an entire character that was
Speaker 1: fake and then walking the door. And that's what I
Speaker 1: wound up doing. And I did it on phone and
Speaker 1: I did it in person, and I talked to like
Speaker 1: uh admirals, heads of industry, uh senators, getting references on people.
Speaker 1: I found out that somebody had been in a mental
Speaker 1: hospital the previous summer and they were trying to get
Speaker 1: a job as a startup engineer at a nuclear plants.
Speaker 1: Then then I'm like, so proud of myself and he
Speaker 1: was I'm not even and he got shocked and everything.
Speaker 1: Then the phone rings and it's the candidate, the guy
Speaker 1: who's trying to get the job, and he goes, I'm
Speaker 1: so thankful to you. I've been hoping that a headhunter
Speaker 1: would come around. Nobody's ever had any interest in me.
Speaker 1: For two years, I haven't been able to get a job.
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh god. Oh yeah, so before Google listen
Speaker 3: is before the internet. Here a gumshoe, you're running around
Speaker 3: doing everything.
Speaker 1: Oh I remember I had one where I'm well, I'll
Speaker 1: give you the whole shmear. We were doing this for
Speaker 1: an arbitragure right, who has a lot of money and
Speaker 1: he has no pair, an Irish old pair who's in
Speaker 1: his home taking care of his kids. A very attractive
Speaker 1: young Irish woman. And he says to his wife, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: Mara is so talented and so clever. I think we're
Speaker 1: doing her disservice by having her be here in the house.
Speaker 1: I should bring her down to the office and give
Speaker 1: her a real job. I think that she can go far. Okay, hey,
Speaker 1: So she goes down there and of course gets immediately pregnant,
Speaker 1: but she is a Catholic girl and she will not
Speaker 1: have an abortion. Right, So the arbitrager sets her up
Speaker 1: in Red Hook, Brooklyn, because God knows, you can't get
Speaker 1: through it. You can't get away from her. So we'll
Speaker 1: just stasher over there in Red Hook, and maybe, you know,
Speaker 1: she'll go away. So then they hire us to follow her.
Speaker 1: The wife finds out about this somehow, because he tells
Speaker 1: a wife, listen, I think that the only thing I
Speaker 1: can do is like four days a week, I'll be
Speaker 1: with you three days a week. I'll check in on her,
Speaker 1: just to make sure she's not doing anything, you know.
Speaker 1: And so the wife hires us to follow her because
Speaker 1: she might be cheating on him, and if she's cheating
Speaker 1: on him, he might drump, you know, dump her. So
Speaker 1: I'm following her. I'm in Red Hook in the rain
Speaker 1: and February. Uh, there's a there's a three legged dog
Speaker 1: walking by, and I hated this. She's pure as the
Speaker 1: driven snow. This girl. I fire follow her from miles
Speaker 1: from restaurant, the restaurant, whatever and whatever, whatever, there's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with her. Meanwhile, the wife says that she wants
Speaker 1: to hire us to follow the husband. Then the husband
Speaker 1: sees the wife the people following him, and he believes
Speaker 1: that the wife is colluding with the girl for a
Speaker 1: divorce settlement. So we're hired by the wife. By the
Speaker 1: husband that the wife begins to have an affair with
Speaker 1: the head of the detective agency and has lunchtime owners
Speaker 1: with hih my god, really, I'm telling you, how could
Speaker 1: I leave this job?
Speaker 3: In New York Times unbelievable. Now you have to sit
Speaker 3: there like a three If they're up till three in
Speaker 3: the morning, you're there till three in the morning.
Speaker 1: Well, you have this thing, you know, you put your
Speaker 1: you put your SODA's under the car if it's winter,
Speaker 1: you know, instead of hot coffee, you have your cold
Speaker 1: soda under the thing. You have a sandwich, you got
Speaker 1: your thing, you got you know, you're all decked out,
Speaker 1: you're waiting there. The worst thing that could happen is
Speaker 1: that they leave the house.
Speaker 3: Because then you gotta move.
Speaker 1: You gotta move, you know, and we don't have we
Speaker 1: don't have cell phones in those days, so you gotta
Speaker 1: move and get from to a payphone or whatever the hell.
Speaker 1: You don't know what. We're a walking twice one or two.
Speaker 3: In every show, even the best show, when you leave,
Speaker 3: they look around and there's a car there with you
Speaker 3: guys sitting in there. It's so obvious. And then you
Speaker 3: pull out and it's one two they pull out. How
Speaker 3: do you do that?
Speaker 1: In real life, you realize that people don't think they're
Speaker 1: being followed all the time. So if you are standing
Speaker 1: next to somebody in an elevator, they don't go, are
Speaker 1: you following me?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
Speaker 3: They don't think that way, all right. That makes that
Speaker 3: makes five years.
Speaker 1: Five years, yes, And you know I eventually I didn't
Speaker 1: get fined. I had to leave because my landlord was
Speaker 1: also my boss, the head of the detective agency. It
Speaker 1: was also my landlord.
Speaker 3: You dropped a bomb right before we started going.
Speaker 4: Saying I was talking to you and we were talking
Speaker 4: about weight loss and character and can you keep a job?
Speaker 3: Do people hire you once you look because they think
Speaker 3: you're not funny? And you said, my first job ever
Speaker 3: was on Broadway wearing a fat suit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I saw this, was that Gemino? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was in a fat suit padded to a fifty
Speaker 1: four inch waist. At the time, I had like a
Speaker 1: thirty six inch wiste. I had to eat a plate
Speaker 1: of spaghetti and jelly donut eight times a week. And
Speaker 1: the prop man on the show was a psychopath. And
Speaker 1: what he would do is not cook the spaghetti and
Speaker 1: arrange it so that it looked cooked and then like
Speaker 1: put some hot sauce under it. So this besteam come
Speaker 1: and you'll be like and stale donuts. And I would
Speaker 1: have to like bring him gifts and beg that he'd
Speaker 1: be nice to me because they wouldn't fire him.
Speaker 4: You didn't have an equity rep because I know they're
Speaker 4: so effective. Oh, they're terribly effective. Yes, Well, I I
Speaker 4: don't think he liked me. Because I was on stage.
Speaker 3: And he was so how long did that role?
Speaker 6: Though?
Speaker 3: But I guess that that jumps to the question, Wait a.
Speaker 4: Minute, hold on, I can't let that go by. You
Speaker 4: did that show for three years, three years over a
Speaker 4: thousand performers. Hi, Now that's unfathomable to me. I know
Speaker 4: people do it, and they there are records that go
Speaker 4: far beyond that for being sad people. But my god,
Speaker 4: how did you not lose your mind? I did I
Speaker 4: do six months? I go, please this to another act?
Speaker 1: Oh well, wait a minute, you're talking about the producers.
Speaker 1: For christ sakes, did that for a week?
Speaker 3: No? When I was in the well, yeah, we could go.
Speaker 4: But when I was in Broadway Bound, yeah, right, Broadway bound,
Speaker 4: I had a fourteen month contract.
Speaker 1: At the ten month mark, I knew I was not No,
Speaker 1: I lost my mind. And and what's interesting is I
Speaker 1: learned how to act and at the same time I
Speaker 1: reached the threshold of my tolerance. I had to come
Speaker 1: to a new way of doing the show, and I
Speaker 1: did in a work for me instead of doing a show,
Speaker 1: I was doing a decatalon and each of these scenes
Speaker 1: became events, and I was trying to score tens on
Speaker 1: each event, and it came not about the audience. It
Speaker 1: became about me that I knew what a ten was
Speaker 1: and I'm going for it, and if the audience don't
Speaker 1: like it, that's their problem. But if I hit a ten,
Speaker 1: it's a ten.
Speaker 3: That help reframing it that way It.
Speaker 1: Did because I could get out clean from a performance
Speaker 1: no matter what. I never had a bad It wasn't like, ah,
Speaker 1: that the bunch of idiots, they're crazy, you know, That's
Speaker 1: what happens in the long run. And the long run
Speaker 1: people talk about how bad the audience is, right, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and I said, I'm gonna give that up
Speaker 1: because I don't think that's beneficial to you. Wow, you know,
Speaker 1: I know what you mean.
Speaker 4: I remember doing same play Broadway Bound, and you know,
Speaker 4: the first six months you're going, oh, I hope they laugh,
Speaker 4: Oh I hope they left. After six months you go
Speaker 4: to last who care they laugh at anything?
Speaker 1: I know that that was used to laugh.
Speaker 3: So you do get demented, it does. It does happen.
Speaker 1: Well, not even that, but I was working with and
Speaker 1: you know, uh, this woman who is insane, who used
Speaker 1: to she used to hawk into a curtain before she
Speaker 1: went on stage, here we go, you know, and that
Speaker 1: she would go, I'm like, ah, And so there was
Speaker 1: a curtain with stalactites and stalagmites hanging off of it
Speaker 1: that I would have to push out of the way
Speaker 1: to get on stage. Oh my oh. We had a replacement.
Speaker 1: One time. We had a guy who was replacing for
Speaker 1: the father. He went on stage. He was wearing his
Speaker 1: jacket inside out. I said to him, schmuck, you got
Speaker 1: your jacket on his side out? He said, it's been established. Wait,
Speaker 1: oh my god. So speaking of weight, was this the
Speaker 1: show that you left college? One credit shy for what
Speaker 1: happened is you know, I went to New York. I
Speaker 1: had a you know, I'm waiting tables. I'm waiting tables
Speaker 1: at Wolf's Deli across from Lincoln Center. The worst, Oh god,
Speaker 1: I hate it. I had to wear a stupid little jacket,
Speaker 1: and I had the cater to all these old women
Speaker 1: who are like, I want it on the side, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, yes, I'm not lean and on
Speaker 1: the side. Okay, fine, So that's where when I get
Speaker 1: the cold. But I got the job. I am wearing
Speaker 1: the stupid little jacket. I go, excuse me, just a
Speaker 1: moment I went out into the street through the jacket
Speaker 1: into the street, never went back, just walked out of there,
Speaker 1: thinking I'll never wait tables again.
Speaker 3: Not so okay before so we'll go to the wait
Speaker 3: thing in a minute. But and this I think is
Speaker 3: a really no really if I got this correct, and
Speaker 3: you before, what are you ringing before you it's a
Speaker 3: preparatory really no, really, So I read and I think
Speaker 3: I got it right that you were doing a sketrow
Speaker 3: in England with Emma Thompson. Yes, Emma Thompson is ultimately
Speaker 3: kind of responsible for a lot of things in your life,
Speaker 3: and that she turned you on to Kenneth Browna, yes,
Speaker 3: who gave you a game.
Speaker 1: And I tried to turn her off. So Kenneth I
Speaker 1: told him, I said, I look, if you're going to
Speaker 1: marry him, marry him like a black widow spider and
Speaker 1: then eat his head, which is so sweet.
Speaker 3: So Kenneth Brona puts you in something and which got
Speaker 3: you to Oliver Stone, which got you to Paul Verhoven,
Speaker 3: which got you to Spielberg.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well not necessarily in that order. How it how
Speaker 1: it begins is I I got to Oliver Stone from
Speaker 1: Lincoln Center and from other things, uh, from recent Brayman
Speaker 1: and being seen, you know uh. And I remember auditioning
Speaker 1: for Oliver for JFK and them saying, uh, don't be theatrical.
Speaker 1: Whatever you do, don't be theatrical. He hates theatrical. What
Speaker 1: do you expect me to do? Oh? Do you do?
Speaker 1: But in any case, I went in and I gave
Speaker 1: this Georgia kicker, kind of like accident, because I know
Speaker 1: that I was looking for somebody and I growed up
Speaker 1: in Bartokay and the Georgia. I had to do it.
Speaker 1: So I did that accent and Oliver loved it, loved it.
Speaker 1: That is not the actual, thank you very much. So
Speaker 1: then I get to New Orleans to do JFK, and
Speaker 1: I'm playing a real guy, this guy Numa Bertell, and
Speaker 1: he's from the French Quarter. He's from the you know, hey,
Speaker 1: tod Lock Hey comes from Choppatolas. He's got that kind
Speaker 1: of the wall on stand, different kind of accent than
Speaker 1: the when I was doing. And so I'm trying to
Speaker 1: so I'm going to do that for me, Goes, I
Speaker 1: don't want that, but I want what you did in
Speaker 1: the audition, I go. But that's wrong. That's not the
Speaker 1: accurate accent for this guy. I don't care I go,
Speaker 1: but I do.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: And he hated me for the rest of the picture
Speaker 1: and so he would say things to me. He would
Speaker 1: taunt me, he would be mean to me. We would
Speaker 1: be doing a scene because you have dialogue in this scene,
Speaker 1: you think it can handle it.
Speaker 3: So is this an accurate quote? When asked what it
Speaker 3: was like working on Jake FK, you said, so, is
Speaker 3: this an accurate quote? When asked what was like working
Speaker 3: on Jake FK, you said, it's like being held hostage
Speaker 3: in a bank. All did I say? That? Is it?
Speaker 1: But it was dalk day afternoon.
Speaker 3: It was a good picture. Oh my god. Wow. No.
Speaker 1: So uh. And on the last day he's going, uh,
Speaker 1: you know to Laurie Metcheff, you're going to miss me.
Speaker 1: When he looked at me and he goes, You're not
Speaker 1: going to miss me.
Speaker 3: No, uh, let me just let's me finish this area. Yes, yes, Verhoven.
Speaker 3: You go to Verhoven and you're in the famous movie
Speaker 3: which is of the Shawn some basic incident.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, how that happened is it is simply an
Speaker 1: audition going into the like you're going to meet Paul Verhoven.
Speaker 1: You're going to meet him in a hotel room. It's
Speaker 1: one of those I'm like, oh great, okay, all right, So,
Speaker 1: like you know, I go up the stairs and waiting
Speaker 1: at the door, and the door open and he's there
Speaker 1: with a camera. Hello, Yes you're coming, come in, Come in.
Speaker 1: All right, okay, look into the camera. Okay, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: look closer. Okay. Now maybe you do a.
Speaker 7: Lick with your lips. Okay, you do a lick, but good, good, good,
Speaker 7: good good. Maybe you do another lick, maybe the lick lick.
Speaker 6: Then I go lick lick mm hmmm, yes, but now
Speaker 6: maybe you do a third lick lick, click, dick, and
Speaker 6: I go like, lick go no, too many licks.
Speaker 3: And this was your reaction and you supposed to be
Speaker 3: you looking at her in that famous scene. Now is
Speaker 3: it true? Because I know people probably asking then times
Speaker 3: what did you see? You had you were looking into it?
Speaker 3: I was looking.
Speaker 1: I saw the mac box, I mean the camera. I
Speaker 1: got a panavision camera like an inch from my face,
Speaker 1: you know, and everybody else is going we and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, hey, you know, I don't see nothing.
Speaker 3: So you didn't see nothing, but you sweated like was she.
Speaker 4: Even on the set when you were doing no No?
Speaker 3: So there's there's that yes. And then because of all the.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine this sense memory it took to come up.
Speaker 3: With that sweat to really feel like you were looking
Speaker 3: at me. Yes, Spielberg saw your sweating and you were
Speaker 3: the first one cast in the Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: This is this is what I was told that he
Speaker 1: like he saw me in in basic instinct and thought,
Speaker 1: what if that were a dinosaur instead of a you know,
Speaker 1: a wide open vagina? And uh and so no, literally
Speaker 1: I got cast. I had an agent at Gersha at
Speaker 1: the time, who said, are you sitting down? I said no, no,
Speaker 1: but I will if you'd like cases Steven Spielberg and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, uh, why is that so startling to do?
Speaker 1: But but literally I am I not met Spielberg. I've
Speaker 1: gotten cast. I was flown to Kawhi. They took me
Speaker 1: in a in a bus up a cane road covered
Speaker 1: in mud and it's rocking and whatever. We get to
Speaker 1: the top of the cane road to blue Hole in Kawhi,
Speaker 1: the rainiest place in the United in the world three
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty days a year it rains there, but
Speaker 1: they had rain machines in case, uh, and they used them.
Speaker 1: So we get there to the gates of Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: We pull up to the gates of Jurassic Park, and
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the gates of Jurassic Park is
Speaker 1: Spielberg with you know, and I walk up to him
Speaker 1: and I go, I hope I'm the guy you wanted.
Speaker 1: He is this the other one? Wow? Did you enjoy it?
Speaker 3: Like that? Movie must have been tough to do. I mean,
Speaker 3: you might it was.
Speaker 1: I was soaking wet. I was as fat as a
Speaker 1: human can be. I mean most of the time while
Speaker 1: I was on the picture, people are going, He's gonna blow,
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, no, I'm all right, I'm
Speaker 1: soaking wet. And they've got like this kind of like
Speaker 1: a polo shirt that's not very stretchy that goes over.
Speaker 1: I mean that I have to while wet put on
Speaker 1: take on, take off, take on, take off.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: No, it was not an iconic scene. And then the
Speaker 3: last question about that, is this true or false? Because
Speaker 3: the rumor is one night, I guess you were filming
Speaker 3: here and this spit or that that dinosaur spit in
Speaker 3: your face and it was a purple dye. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: had to go to Seinfeld and her face was purple.
Speaker 1: The problem with this is the guy who's like, I
Speaker 1: was shot in the face with a h an air
Speaker 1: rifle filled with dyed black k white jelly. There is
Speaker 1: a guy who was shooting me with the thing. He's
Speaker 1: looking at me disdainfully. Should I find troubling? And he said, uh,
Speaker 1: don't blink or I'll have to do it again. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: so you have to turn the camera and without blinking,
Speaker 1: I'm going to shoot you between the eyes with this
Speaker 1: with this gun.
Speaker 3: And if you blink, I'm going to do it again.
Speaker 1: It took two takes. I couldn't the first day. But
Speaker 1: that guy now lives across the street from me and
Speaker 1: he has a better house than I do. All right,
Speaker 1: I hit the bells.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. So there. Now you were three, like
Speaker 3: three sixty at that point, right.
Speaker 1: Oh no, not that. I was like three twenty seven
Speaker 1: and a half.
Speaker 3: I read that when you lost away with the fear
Speaker 3: became the doctor saying to you and it was doing
Speaker 3: a signful episode that you were complicating or something you
Speaker 3: know what.
Speaker 1: Happened is there. It was the episode where the farmer's
Speaker 1: daughter and and and the farmer and and they and
Speaker 1: they bringing the bottle deposit. So I got Rance Howard
Speaker 1: firing a gun over my head and my running through
Speaker 1: the field, and this girl is yelling lying goodbye Norman.
Speaker 1: She didn't know the name Newman. She literally was too
Speaker 1: stupid to figure out that it was Newman, not Norman.
Speaker 1: And we kept it in. So I'm running back and
Speaker 1: forth in this fake cornfield with my pants down, and
Speaker 1: and I'm known for being able to run quickly. Don't
Speaker 1: don't blow by that. I remember watching him and going,
Speaker 1: this guy can move not anymore. I was fast, and
Speaker 1: now I'm going to have back surgery in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. Uh. But in any case, So I'm running
Speaker 1: back forth, runningack forth, running back for We're doing it
Speaker 1: over and over again, and I'm getting what feels like
Speaker 1: angina paints. So I go immediately to cardiologist and I say,
Speaker 1: I any think I'm gonna And he's like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: got hardening of the heart on one side from blood
Speaker 1: pressure changes and this, and then if you don't change
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 3: You're going to die.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't want to die, Okay, So
Speaker 1: I went to a trainer, started the whole process and began,
Speaker 1: you know, everything I could think of to lose the weight.
Speaker 1: And I did lose you know, a good portion of it.
Speaker 1: During Seinfeld there was you could see some loss. Yes,
Speaker 1: as you were coming down. I was going up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then and then I laughed, and you know who
Speaker 1: the hell knows, but I mean it was. This has
Speaker 1: been the lifelong thing. You know, you go down, I've
Speaker 1: got like forty eight different pairs of pants. You know,
Speaker 1: Oh it's Tuesday. I'll wear those you.
Speaker 3: And I got for the both of you because I
Speaker 3: know you had a weight thing. Can I go down
Speaker 3: the list of stuff to see if you if you
Speaker 3: used it to lose weight? Ready?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then I want to come back to fen fit.
Speaker 3: Yes, no verbal light no, no atkins yes, and.
Speaker 1: Gave me kidney stones all right, thank you.
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills diet no, my wife though the zone yes, yes,
Speaker 3: palio yes, gastric sleeve no yes, gastric bypass, no, LiPo,
Speaker 3: no stomach stapling, no, grapefood diet, no Master cleans. Yes.
Speaker 1: In fact, you were there. I was on it for
Speaker 1: sixteen days?
Speaker 3: Were there?
Speaker 5: Hell?
Speaker 3: Were you there?
Speaker 4: You were working on a on a show that we
Speaker 4: had developed together. And I'm in the writer's room on
Speaker 4: day sixteen of The Men, I feel great.
Speaker 1: Day six tewn, I'm never gonna eat again. Day sixteen
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 4: Master Glenns And somebody pitches me an idea and I go, yeah,
Speaker 4: what was that?
Speaker 3: My brain just shut down, just stopped work. Jenny Craig, Yes,
Speaker 3: wait watchers, Yes, any kind of food delivery service. Yes,
Speaker 3: so you Wow, this shows you how hard it is
Speaker 3: to change behavior and your patterns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, you and I also I went to
Speaker 1: the place we don't talk about, you know, we were
Speaker 1: the twelve step place we don't talk about.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 1: Went there as well, and that was actually quite beneficial
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, but I don't and I have never
Speaker 1: used it because of the fear of you know, not
Speaker 1: being like I see people who take the ozmpacause I
Speaker 1: can't stop. I can't stop. You know you're looking at
Speaker 1: at Sharon Osborne and whatever, and she's I wanted to
Speaker 1: gain back in your life.
Speaker 3: Well, you're starting to find some stuff long term that
Speaker 3: may happen from that. I know that you can't have surgery.
Speaker 3: You got to tell your antiesthesiologies because they confect your surgery. Anesthesia.
Speaker 3: There's something to do when you're on it, and they
Speaker 3: give you the different ways.
Speaker 4: So you know, you left that one that I actually
Speaker 4: did try as well, and that was hypnotherapy.
Speaker 3: And you're looking at me.
Speaker 4: But Wayne, at one point you and I had discussed
Speaker 4: and this this was because because we're show is always
Speaker 4: about things that really kind of boggle our mind and
Speaker 4: make us go, what could that be about?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: But I remember you telling me at one point you
Speaker 4: would you would. I remember seeing you you looked, not
Speaker 4: that you know, being thinner is necessarily the thing.
Speaker 3: But you you were.
Speaker 4: You were really pretty trim, and you look really fit,
Speaker 4: and you had lost I think you said close to
Speaker 4: one hundred pounds and work sort of dry it up.
Speaker 1: Nobody knew really what to.
Speaker 4: Do, and you're nobody really say you look like a
Speaker 4: leading man.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the worst possible thing that could have happened.
Speaker 1: I understand. I mean like people are going, what I
Speaker 1: need is a really attractive looking wing night. No, that's
Speaker 1: not what people want. I want someone I can safely
Speaker 1: ridicule and kick if if if I can't ridicule you.
Speaker 1: What the hell do I want you for now? But
Speaker 1: so what do you how do you get around? What
Speaker 1: do you do with that?
Speaker 4: I mean, well the way I mean the way you
Speaker 4: do blessed career, but what well, the best.
Speaker 1: Thing that happened to me was doing art on Broadway.
Speaker 1: It didn't really lead to other things in that direct way,
Speaker 1: but I got a little review as the Times was
Speaker 1: looking at the people who'd replaced and whatnot, and they
Speaker 1: said something nice like, by the end of the play,
Speaker 1: you forgot that Newman ever existed. And that was to
Speaker 1: me one of the greatest things that anybody could say
Speaker 1: to me, you know. I mean, I'm very proud of
Speaker 1: of Newman, and I'm very proud of the characters that
Speaker 1: I've done. I give them full intent, I go all
Speaker 1: the way, you know. But I also started out doing
Speaker 1: straight film and comedy television. I didn't do comedy in film.
Speaker 1: It was weird, you know. It allowed me kind of
Speaker 1: back and forth until Seinfeld happened, and then you know
Speaker 1: you're who you are. You want to look. There's so
Speaker 1: many things that come from being famous, and there's so
Speaker 1: many negative things that come from being famous. You got
Speaker 1: to take the good with the band. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean for you?
Speaker 4: Was Newman a net neutral or a net positive?
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a net positive because you know,
Speaker 1: there's so many things. It gives you credibility in a
Speaker 1: way that you can't get otherwise. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you delivered, and you delivered on a show that I
Speaker 1: believe delivered for me, so I will look at you.
Speaker 1: Let's come on in, right, So I think that that
Speaker 1: gives entree in a way.
Speaker 4: So for me, you know, it's we talked about it
Speaker 4: before we started taping. You know, there were two years
Speaker 4: where I blatantly and without trying to hide it, wor
Speaker 4: to pay because I had I had lost so many
Speaker 4: roles to producers who said, well, I don't want the.
Speaker 1: Audience to think of you as George.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: You know, my theater career was more often than not,
Speaker 4: playing fifteen people a night. I'm a little bit of
Speaker 4: a chameleon, and you know I desperately tried to create
Speaker 4: a different impression. So I feel blessed and there's never
Speaker 4: a day that I don't thank God Almighty and Jerys.
Speaker 4: I felt Larry David for giving me the life that
Speaker 4: I have. But but George has opened a lot of doors.
Speaker 4: George has closed a lot of doors for me that
Speaker 4: are not going to open it. But I at least
Speaker 4: and I don't I don't mean to put it in
Speaker 4: these terms, but it's it's a reality. I was compensated
Speaker 4: for that in an extraordinary.
Speaker 1: This is exactly the problem. Yeah, it is exactly the problem,
Speaker 1: because if you were not, then all what you get afterwards,
Speaker 1: you are not being compensated for in terms of the
Speaker 1: time lost, right and then and what what I didn't
Speaker 1: understand too, is that there are opportunities that come at
Speaker 1: the end of a show, and if those opportunities don't hit,
Speaker 1: then you're back at sea, right, you know, And you think, well,
Speaker 1: this is just the beginnings of you know, the opportunities
Speaker 1: that will come from having done this, But you don't
Speaker 1: know that, and you don't understand that. And uh, I
Speaker 1: have a much better view of the business now than
Speaker 1: I did when I was young. And it's, you know,
Speaker 1: just commodities broken, it's it's just you know what's hot
Speaker 1: at the moment.
Speaker 3: Right, A lot of pictures for your own sitcom right
Speaker 3: after timefa.
Speaker 1: Well, I actually Larry Charles wrote, uh a sitcom for me,
Speaker 1: and to which you know, Jerry said, Larry anyway, he said,
Speaker 1: I understand an insane monologue, but an entire sit gun
Speaker 1: in a pilot.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And and we were we were pitching it, you know,
Speaker 1: uh to Jamie Tarsus and and uh was it war
Speaker 1: Warren and Warren and and Jamie and and uh they
Speaker 1: were eating, uh a sandwich at the time. And they
Speaker 1: were both having sandwiches at the time, and uh, and
Speaker 1: Larry had come in. Larry Charles had come in wearing pajamas.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you couldn't wear a sweater, like, maybe
Speaker 1: pretend you engulfed once, you know, I mean we're meeting
Speaker 1: network people. It's they'd like that kind of thing. And
Speaker 1: and the first thing he talked about was this, you know,
Speaker 1: it's very much like Hamlet's Ghost, you know, when Hamlet's
Speaker 1: Ghost comes in and Hamlet and I'm like, my eyes
Speaker 1: are spinning up in my head and I'm thinking, this
Speaker 1: is the end of.
Speaker 3: My grid right now. And it was you had agreed
Speaker 3: that going in, Well, no, I me just.
Speaker 1: Did I understand. It was a great show. It was
Speaker 1: a great show. It was about a vegetarian butcher in
Speaker 1: Brooklyn has to come home to save the butcher shop
Speaker 1: because his father has died, and you know, on the
Speaker 1: street it was all good.
Speaker 4: But you know it's just the wasn't Newmansk or was
Speaker 4: it a different a whole different kind of character.
Speaker 1: I you know, I'm sure it was uh Newmanesque in
Speaker 1: some ways, because you know at the time, I you
Speaker 1: know what happens is you've become successful at something and
Speaker 1: then immediately you say, well, I must repudiate that, right,
Speaker 1: Why why would you do that? It's like I wanted
Speaker 1: to play only serious roles of Nordic men with blonde hair,
Speaker 1: and I was like, come on, you know, it's just.
Speaker 3: Like I was talking to William Macy interviewing William Macy,
Speaker 3: and he said, when I was in my twenties, it
Speaker 3: was all about can I change make a difference with it?
Speaker 3: He said, in my forties it was about to catch
Speaker 3: and now at my age it do I have to
Speaker 3: get wet?
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is exactly where you're It's just it's just
Speaker 5: that different.
Speaker 3: But you were looking back, you would have Doneman. By
Speaker 3: the way, Jason hit me with the line, we were
Speaker 3: both so excited when you're coming in and you got.
Speaker 3: I just laughed out loud.
Speaker 4: Because he asked me, what, you know, what would the
Speaker 4: iconic moments? And I said, well, Wayne had two lines
Speaker 4: that you know, basically shut me and everybody else down.
Speaker 1: One of them I think you had libbed. The other
Speaker 1: moment scripted, but.
Speaker 3: And it sounds like an ad lib from you. He
Speaker 3: he who controls the mail, controls information.
Speaker 1: I don't know the one the one ad lib was.
Speaker 1: And then it's, uh, the barcode reader breaks and it's
Speaker 1: publishers clearing out sweets takes day.
Speaker 4: But I think didn't you also? Was it the one
Speaker 4: that killed me? I thought it was an AdLib? Is
Speaker 4: when you're driving the mail truck and it burst in
Speaker 4: the flames and you went, oh.
Speaker 3: You know. The cool thing was I used to go
Speaker 3: visit him on the set and watching everybody do this constantly,
Speaker 3: the joy on that set was just something.
Speaker 4: Well, let me, can I ask you a question about that.
Speaker 4: I wasn't thinking about this, but so recently I've seen, Uh,
Speaker 4: there was an actor named Armand Shimmerman who did an
Speaker 4: episode of our show, and I saw something about Keith
Speaker 4: her Nandez, both of which Armand said that our cast
Speaker 4: was was very unwelcoming, unwell coming to him. He felt
Speaker 4: like he was not appreciated at all. Keith Nanda said, I,
Speaker 4: in particular was I think the word was standoffish. I
Speaker 4: always thought we were and I'm not looking for a
Speaker 4: compliment here. I thought we were kind of a welcoming set.
Speaker 4: We were excited about people.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been on another show?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well then, and you still think that anyway? We were
Speaker 1: we now? Were we cold? Were we welcoming? Were we warm?
Speaker 1: Were we were professional? Huh? And you were the top
Speaker 1: show on television and it was like, this is opening
Speaker 1: night on Broadway, don't fuck it up? Is that the
Speaker 1: vibe before?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: The vibe is that everybody was thrilled to be there
Speaker 1: and they and they understood the nature of this beast.
Speaker 1: And Jerry was very was welcoming, a friendly and Larry
Speaker 1: was scary as hell because he was too relaxed seeming,
Speaker 1: and you couldn't like, how could somebody so laconic and loose.
Speaker 3: Be scary right right right right?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 1: I think that. No. I think that I enjoyed being
Speaker 1: on the show because every time you started a scene,
Speaker 1: you knew it delivered. You just had to not be
Speaker 1: in the way of it right, find the joke, hit
Speaker 1: the joke, the joke is there. So I mean the
Speaker 1: number of shows I've been on where you know, you
Speaker 1: go on an expedition to find the joke right. This
Speaker 1: was not that the material was it was always good.
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's just really interesting to me because
Speaker 4: I always I knew that Jerry, for the most part,
Speaker 4: was a warm host for people.
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I I hoped that I was.
Speaker 1: I felt like Julia was.
Speaker 4: I know, Michael was off and off working on his
Speaker 4: own on stuff, but I thought we were all kind
Speaker 4: of gracious. But I have been on enough other shows
Speaker 4: to know where the warm ones, Like working on MASL
Speaker 4: and working on Young Sheldon. I went, oh, this is
Speaker 4: I feel like I've been here for a long time.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm part of the family walking right.
Speaker 4: And there are other shows and you're walking into a
Speaker 4: very dysfunctional family.
Speaker 1: Or doesn't feel you can hear the wind blowing, you know,
Speaker 1: there aren't conversations going on where people are playing with
Speaker 1: each other and then they're doing the show. Third Rock
Speaker 1: was the most friendly show I had ever been on
Speaker 1: because John Lifgo's father was ran a Shakespeare theater, and
Speaker 1: so he knew how to be the captain of a ship.
Speaker 1: It was ingrained in him how to take care of people,
Speaker 1: to be gracious, to make sure that everybody was together,
Speaker 1: to keep it, you know, moving. And by the way,
Speaker 1: we didn't get to it. But back to the fat
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, just in researching, it's really
Speaker 1: interesting because I was a chubby kid. You know, I
Speaker 1: went to the husky shop, you know where you couldn't Yes.
Speaker 4: Like I'm leading the pack at the next I did.
Speaker 1: A husky Where did they.
Speaker 3: Come over the high right? Yeah? Yeah, picture of a
Speaker 3: Siberian husky's head in a three piece suit was so low. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I went, mom, really, so I have to go to the.
Speaker 1: Place for wide shoes. I had to go to the
Speaker 1: place with wide clothes.
Speaker 4: Every freaking thing on me was wide whale corduroy, and
Speaker 4: I went, that's great, right into the name.
Speaker 1: But then you also have the chafing in the other.
Speaker 3: Ye actually just sticks together.
Speaker 1: On d royal corduroy on a fat person is just
Speaker 1: a way of starting a fire in the woods.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, So to that point though, it's it's with these
Speaker 3: there's ozembic shaming now which is fascinating people going, oh,
Speaker 3: she probably took it, Oh he didn't take it. I
Speaker 3: can lie.
Speaker 1: Why do you have to do it hard?
Speaker 3: Or well, why should you judge who's doing it? But
Speaker 3: I never realized to the extent because when you get
Speaker 3: into the medical area, and I don't know if you've
Speaker 3: ever experienced it, when you're heavy to doctors, when you
Speaker 3: talk to them, they're listening to you about whatever you're saying.
Speaker 3: But it's really, you know what, lose forty pounds is
Speaker 3: the beginning to do it the right right, that's what
Speaker 3: you have. And I didn't realize with the fat shaming,
Speaker 3: how many people don't want to go to the doctor,
Speaker 3: how many people are emparised to go to a hospital
Speaker 3: because the way you're treated, and it's a big I've.
Speaker 1: Got to go. I've got to go have surgery on
Speaker 1: my back from you know, just being obese, and also
Speaker 1: thinking that my job was to do falls. Oh I
Speaker 1: did falls for so many years. I started in college
Speaker 1: falling down concrete stairs, doing falls left and yeah. And
Speaker 1: so I'm on the last show I'm doing I'm practicing
Speaker 1: this fall like eighteen times before we shoot it. Because
Speaker 1: I wanted to be just right, and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: are you an idiot? You know, so I've totally wrecked myself.
Speaker 1: But in going to the doctor, because my legs are
Speaker 1: all beat up from all the I don't want to go,
Speaker 1: and I want them to see that when I was
Speaker 1: doing Jurassic Park, I was, you know, eighteen zillion pounds,
Speaker 1: and my leg kept hitting the jeep in trying to
Speaker 1: open the gates and I couldn't get in and out
Speaker 1: of the jeep fast enough. The thing is ripping the
Speaker 1: skin off my leg. And so I'm in kawhi. Everybody
Speaker 1: else is swimming and whatever. I've got a giant, gaping
Speaker 1: wound on my leg. I don't go to the doctor
Speaker 1: because I'm afraid that they'll tell me I'm gonna die.
Speaker 1: I'm fat, so I don't want to hear it. My
Speaker 1: doctor does the same.
Speaker 3: It's a very serious thing for me.
Speaker 1: He does the same rap every time. I was just there.
Speaker 4: I was just there and he's a wonderful guy, and
Speaker 4: he does the whole checkup. You go in the office
Speaker 4: and this is his rap every time.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 4: First of all, God bless your mom and dad. The
Speaker 4: netics day've handed you. You are such a healthy guy.
Speaker 4: Your blood work is perfect, your lungs are clear, your
Speaker 4: heart is good, You've got no plaque, your cholesterol is great,
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. Your liver function, your kidney function, terrific.
Speaker 4: God bless you. You should live to be one hundred
Speaker 4: and ten. Pause pause, What the do I have to
Speaker 4: do to get twenty five pounds up? Always comes down
Speaker 4: to that, And honestly, it makes me go, I don't
Speaker 4: want to go.
Speaker 1: I know what he's gonna know, I say to him is, look,
Speaker 1: I don't want to shame my children by living to
Speaker 1: be one hundred and thirty. Let me die in one
Speaker 1: hundred and ten. But it is shit, you know, And
Speaker 1: I told you you never And this is true.
Speaker 4: People who I've known who are really battling weight, who
Speaker 4: haven't have an eating problem.
Speaker 1: I never seen the meat. No, they don't eat, they
Speaker 1: don't need, they don't need. They only eat like when
Speaker 1: if there's a blackout, you know, and people are looting, they're.
Speaker 4: Eating right, And I'd have the most delicate, little low
Speaker 4: calorie meal and go home and eat a gallon and
Speaker 4: a half of hogging doze.
Speaker 1: I mean it, just so there's.
Speaker 3: There's a new study. This is really interesting. This just
Speaker 3: came out. Brain changes could be the reason it's hard
Speaker 3: to lose weight. Oh zemping and these similar drubs mimic
Speaker 3: the effects of a type of foremone in the body.
Speaker 3: It impacts everything from the brain to muscles, to the pancreas,
Speaker 3: the stomach, in the liver. Without taking something to change
Speaker 3: the hormonal levels in the body, people with certain genetics
Speaker 3: simply cannot lose weight and keep it off. When we
Speaker 3: try to lose weight with diet exercise alone, the hunger
Speaker 3: hormone skyrocket, the satiety hormones drop, and it's almost impossible
Speaker 3: to keep the weight off. They're powerful hormonal forces that
Speaker 3: are pushing the body to gain weight. So they're finding
Speaker 3: there's stuff going on that's not so simplistic, which is
Speaker 3: cut this out, cut this out, which is why the
Speaker 3: list of diets we talked about don't work for a
Speaker 3: lot of people. And they just say it's behavioral changes.
Speaker 3: But now there may be hormonal changes where your body
Speaker 3: is trying to push. Well, what are the.
Speaker 1: Things like from I don't know, there's some aglutides the
Speaker 1: or what the word is for what ozembic is and
Speaker 1: what all those type of GEO one year antagonists. You know,
Speaker 1: in terms of it can affect how you can drink,
Speaker 1: how you can take sweets. How uh, because us the
Speaker 1: things that give you serotonin based on eating, it cuts off.
Speaker 1: So the chocolate that would work for you or alcohol
Speaker 1: that would work for you might not work for you.
Speaker 3: I've heard, I've heard in several cases so far the
Speaker 3: same thing where somebody who had an alcoholic problem, right,
Speaker 3: it helped with all the addiction at the same time
Speaker 3: because it's hitting whatever this the nerve center is or
Speaker 3: the receptors for that, for society and for releasing the drugs.
Speaker 1: Except if you want to hit someone with a ballpeen hammer,
Speaker 1: that still is there. Okay, thank god, thank god the
Speaker 1: classics system.
Speaker 3: Yes, the balpeen hammer diet has not been No dis
Speaker 3: I tried.
Speaker 1: The ball peen hammer diet and it was startling.
Speaker 3: Congratulating you're in the.
Speaker 4: As we wrap up? Yes, what do we with the bookie?
Speaker 4: Is your is your new show?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: And also I have a series coming out this year
Speaker 1: called Them On on Amazon. Is that thing?
Speaker 3: No? It is.
Speaker 1: Actually it takes place in Los Angeles during the days
Speaker 1: of Darryl Gates and I play a police detective and
Speaker 1: it is a one of these kind of horror shows
Speaker 1: about race. But I'm not a bad guy.
Speaker 4: Not theatrical ladies and gentlemen, our friend Wayne Knight, actor
Speaker 4: extraordin there. Thank you for coming, thank you for hanging
Speaker 4: out a pleasure, the joy of your company for all this.
Speaker 1: No, I barely know about the show. But you got
Speaker 1: all the merchan.
Speaker 3: We have the one we have one.
Speaker 1: It's I got a shirt that Peter refuses to wear.
Speaker 4: He has a cup that he gave it to me,
Speaker 4: and it didn't last. He didn't get through the dishwasher
Speaker 4: one cycle. Didn't even get through the dishwasher.
Speaker 1: I think a do rag is the next thing.
Speaker 3: All right, you're now our merchandise director, god.
Speaker 9: Bless really no, really, gentlemen, all right, David, I think
Speaker 9: we know my buddy Wayne Knight pretty well, but perhaps
Speaker 9: we skipped something important.
Speaker 1: What might we have not known?
Speaker 3: You know, you covered it pretty well.
Speaker 10: I think Wayne's filmography, the ups and downs. But you know,
Speaker 10: as we saw, Wayne has lost a lot of waite,
Speaker 10: and we were saying that, you know, he might have
Speaker 10: lost out on a bunch of roles and perhaps some
Speaker 10: role he could wear, and he actually wouldn't be the
Speaker 10: first one to do this where a yes, yes, right now,
Speaker 10: this is a very controversial piece of costume, right, A
Speaker 10: lot of people.
Speaker 8: Object that it exists. I think you should cast the
Speaker 8: Brendan Fraser. Of course, remember in twenty twenty two One
Speaker 8: Best Actor for the Well where he played a a.
Speaker 1: Man of great size.
Speaker 8: So there are other films out there that also used
Speaker 8: a actor that was not on the same size. We
Speaker 8: have the thing about Pam with renee Zelwigger who played Pam.
Speaker 3: Hop Colin Farrell, right, he was in the Latest.
Speaker 1: As the Penguinaman, May.
Speaker 3: I just stop everybody for a second, say Jason would
Speaker 3: love to do that role?
Speaker 4: Every No, you know what I mean. Here's what we
Speaker 4: said in my group. They we saw Colin Farrell as
Speaker 4: the penguin, we went so they made him look like
Speaker 4: Richard Khin. Why don't they just hire Richard Kahan. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 4: he wasn't affecting Richard Kaine, but but he kind of
Speaker 4: what they did to him facially sort of example.
Speaker 1: Rich that's what you're going for? Richardson flat was actor.
Speaker 3: Hi Richard have the Penguin? Talking about Richard kain.
Speaker 1: O Batman Batman, I'm coming to get you.
Speaker 3: I'm not why why? Why? Why not go.
Speaker 4: After the Riddler? And Richard has a very distinct voice,
Speaker 4: but you can change it. He's a Constantine, all right.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 10: You also have the great actor Jared Lado, who played
Speaker 10: Polo Gucci in the twenty one House of Gucci.
Speaker 3: That was a.
Speaker 4: Bizarre that was That was one of those things where
Speaker 4: I went unless that guy, the guy he's playing, sounded
Speaker 4: like it really sounded like that.
Speaker 3: That's a weird choice.
Speaker 4: Somebody went down an awfully strange road and nobody put
Speaker 4: up a stobs vert.
Speaker 3: And he also did Mark David Shapman didn't, he didn't
Speaker 3: play Jared Leno played Chapman. I think so.
Speaker 4: Finis Why do you forget the one that's gonna hit
Speaker 4: me right in that herd?
Speaker 3: I know?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We have the.
Speaker 8: Wonderful Sarah Paulson who don de fat suit to play
Speaker 8: the infamous Linda Trip.
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, that's right, the trip.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: Yes, yep.
Speaker 8: We have hair Spray, the theatrical version, where we have
Speaker 8: John Travolta playing Edna Turnplast was an interesting choice. Another
Speaker 8: one very controversial.
Speaker 3: In the Elvis biopic.
Speaker 1: We have Tom Hanks wearing the Colonel, The Colonel.
Speaker 3: David thank you.
Speaker 4: Well wait he didn't get to the one that's gonna
Speaker 4: hit me right, God go ahead.
Speaker 1: Throw it at one.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, starring Gwyneth Falton Paltrow who played Rosebery, and
Speaker 10: of course Shallow.
Speaker 1: House right and boy that we got.
Speaker 4: There were people outside that theaters also.
Speaker 3: There were all these people there who had tails who
Speaker 3: were really upset about Jason getting that part.
Speaker 1: You know, you always diminish, you have to diminish.
Speaker 3: I know what it was who made the tail. You
Speaker 3: were another guy I don't even know where the cables were.
Speaker 4: But ran down to clean him. Well, that tail was
Speaker 4: they They came one night. It wasn't in the script,
Speaker 4: by the way. So we're in the middle shooting and
Speaker 4: I'm in the hotel. One night after the shooting, got
Speaker 4: a call from Peter Farreley.
Speaker 1: You in tonight?
Speaker 3: You in? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is a guy coming over to take a mold of
Speaker 4: your ass? I went, uh, huh is this uh film
Speaker 4: related or is this just for your personal use? And
Speaker 4: he comes over and he does it, and now they
Speaker 4: make a they make like a girdle, a latex girdle
Speaker 4: that has the tail apparatus and a spring inside of
Speaker 4: it with a wire that goes down the bottom of
Speaker 4: it out in my leg and I.
Speaker 1: Got two guys five feet no.
Speaker 4: Apparently somebody that I met recently I can't remember who
Speaker 4: says they have it, that it was auctioned off, and
Speaker 4: that they have it.
Speaker 1: If you, if you hear this and you're that person.
Speaker 3: Let us learn. But yeah, yeah, well David, thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you, Laurie, thank you, Jason, thank you.
Speaker 1: Wayne.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now really has another episode of Really No Really
Speaker 2: comes to a close. I know you're wondering did anyone
Speaker 2: else ever play the role of Newman on Seinfeld? That
Speaker 2: answer in a moment, But first let's thank our guest,
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Speaker 2: to the question, did anyone else ever play Newman on Seinfeld?
Speaker 3: Technically yes.
Speaker 2: The first reference to the Newman character was in a
Speaker 2: second season episode entitled The Revenge. In that episode, we
Speaker 2: only hear the voice of an Upscarirs neighbor in Jerry's building,
Speaker 2: who is named Newman.
Speaker 3: We never see the character appear on screen.
Speaker 2: Newman is threatening to jump from the fire escape and
Speaker 2: he briefly engages in a verbal exchange with Kramer, who
Speaker 2: is yelling to him from a window. However, in that episode,
Speaker 2: Seinfeld co creator Larry David voiced the role of Newman,
Speaker 2: technically making him the originator of the role.
Speaker 3: One season later, Newman.
Speaker 2: Made his first appearance on screen in an episode ironically
Speaker 2: titled The Suicide. And it was Wayne Knight who walked
Speaker 2: through that door. And after that Newman would never be
Speaker 2: anyone but Wayne.
Speaker 11: In fact, before the series wrapped up its ninth season,
Speaker 11: the producers decided to have Wayne record the lines that
Speaker 11: Larry David had done in The Revenge, So if you
Speaker 11: watch that episode now, it is Wayne's voicey here, and
Speaker 11: with that we say goodbye Newman too.
Speaker 3: That they couldn't afford to give you a first name.
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