WEBVTT - Do You Have Regrets? 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:07.120 Sauce on the side. Wow, another week without Diamond. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:09.600 Where is she? I don't know, You'll never know. 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:10.719 She's a big time in me man. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:11.640 Yeah, so true. 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.200 Wow, I thought I had producers. Oh wait here you 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:17.599 are Hi. Hi, It's Andrew. I'm Gandhi and this is 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:21.280 Sauce on the Side. Today we actually have a guest 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:23.720 who I think a lot of people will be very 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.840 excited about because he's a babe. I'm gonna be able 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:27.880 to keep it together for this one. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:28.960 I love bet for you. Yeah. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.120 I get very sweaty around people I'm actually attracted to, 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.640 and I can't function or say normal things. 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:37.839 I almost feel like that you believe videos where it's 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.440 like the red flag meter, except I just need your 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:42.360 hydration meter a sweat drop Poe. 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:45.760 I can wholeheartedly admire that he is a babe, but 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:47.240 he's not the type that's gonna make me sweat. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:47.960 Okay, I'm gonna be. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.000 Okay here, all right. He's here to talk about all 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.479 kinds of things, his skincare line. He's been doing a 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.720 lot of stuff, But in my head and maybe in 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.280 a lot of other people's head, he is forever John Tucker. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.000 John Tucker must die I have a friend who got 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.000 John Tuckard in high school because he was doing the 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.120 same crap dating a bunch of people. I think it 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:05.720 might be like traumatic for him, which makes me laugh 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:07.880 because I'm like, you traumatize all these people first, and 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.280 then they just got you back, and you're upset about it. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:16.280 They basically tried to like abandon him, Nickdow. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:17.559 I mean, I think it's just hysterical though. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.920 Yeah, things happen, and good for them. That's what. Yes, 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:22.839 Rise up, ladies, Yes, get. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.520 Your revenge, Get your revenge. 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.000 Also, funniest thing about John Tucker Must Die is I'm 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.039 pretty sure every person in that movie was like thirty 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.840 years old when they were filming it. It was like 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:32.400 a shanty. 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.200 Yes, it wasn't like Mean Girls, where like you could 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.920 see the age, Like and Lindsay Olhanan was what like 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.160 seventeen playing like a sophomore. 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.040 Regina George was like twenty eight playing a senior. 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:48.160 But she looked like a senior. Yeah, Rachel McAdams looked 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:49.720 like she could still be in high school. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:50.840 I don't even know anymore. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.280 I mean the fact that she was only like six 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:57.000 or seven years younger than Amy Poehler who played her moms. 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:58.400 Yeah, cracks me up. 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.240 So offensive for Amy Pohlar, do you guess? 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.680 But John Tucker must. I literally was like, hey, thirty 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.840 year olds, you're in high school now. They did the 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.760 Ben Platt from Dear Evan Hanson. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.280 That movie, that movie Pisces Andrew off so bad. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.120 Play the movie, all of it. 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.720 And it's triggered. Do not bring up Evan Hanson, Dear 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.920 Evan Hansen. Don't do it, he said. He laughed his 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.880 way through it. By the way, it is about suicide, 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.160 so we'll start there. Andrew just had a ball. 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:24.360 With that one. 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.320 Let me tell you something. There's a lot more to 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.120 it that they don't mention. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.799 Would you like to mention it? This is a free space. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:31.840 This the intro. 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.720 Last time we were going to do an intro to 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.120 go into an interview, it took thirty minutes, so we 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:38.600 could do it in the outro if we want to. 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.680 Okay, fair enough. So I still don't think I'm able 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.800 to talk about it fully yet. But I was told 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:46.880 when I started this podcast that this is like my domain. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:48.080 You can do what you want to do, you can 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:49.360 say what you want to say, have a good time. 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.400 And then we interviewed someone, and then I found out 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.440 real quick that apparently it is not my domain and 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.079 it is not my podcast. And when I tell you, 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.040 I have a list of grief and says that went 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.040 on their hardcore. So one of these days I'm gonna 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.600 talk about it, maybe like two episodes from now, because 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:07.959 I think everybody has probably stopped listening. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:08.880 Who was a nice tease? 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.720 Really caring? Ye keep listening and I'll tell you why 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.360 I'm pissed off. But yeah, so I don't think anyone's 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.440 gonna give you shit if you light up, Dear Vanhanson 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:18.119 right now. 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:19.880 I'm afraid that if I go into it, then you're 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.200 gonna be like ha ha, and then we're going to 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.000 talk about something else because we just get distracted so 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:24.000 easily from each other. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:29.160 You do ramble, That's true. We get paid to ramble. 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:30.040 Thank you, We do. 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:31.240 We you do? 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.360 Okay, if you were to say what what, let's start 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:36.880 with you. What is your job description? 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.080 Technically it's the operations manager for the morning show, which 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:46.080 basically just like keep everybody happy somehow, which exactly see 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.640 you left me very happy. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:49.040 There you go. 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.760 But I'm just saying tasking someone with keeping this show. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.400 Happy is insane when you have all these different personalities. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.560 It's, in so many words, being an adult babysitter. 0:03:57.800 --> 0:03:58.760 First of all, I resent that. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.560 Well where that's it exactly? 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:03.800 Can you? 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.360 And my other job is the executive producer for the 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:12.360 podcast network, So just get new shows. Yeah, Honestly, it's 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.800 why I think i'd be great on Survivor. A lot 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.760 of management, a lot of managing people and their egos, 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.400 and also like time and budgets and all this other stuff. 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.039 It's like a lot of things wrapped into one. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.240 Okay, where are you at with Survivor? 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:28.360 So I'm making a new video. 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:29.839 How many have you made? 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.760 I have been actively applying since I got rejected for 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.360 that original one, originally for going. 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:36.799 Out to cast. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:42.200 Yeahs ago no ten seasons ago, thirty seven, thirty eight 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.400 was the one that I was invited to finals casting for. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.880 Okay, So now I'm gonna taste. 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.239 Yes, I'm using a friend on the inside to hopefully 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:50.080 fast track this next. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.680 I won't say that fingers crossed, don't say that. I 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:53.040 don't know. 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.960 Oh God, again, it's the casting person listening, because then 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:56.880 I guess what they come to you. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:58.279 You're gonna be like I owe you nothing. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:04:58.760 No. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:00.880 Listen, if a casting person came to me about this 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:02.400 first of all, it'd be too late because they already 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.840 heard it true. But I would, for your sake edit 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.760 something and then tell them after I owe you nothing, okay, yes, 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.240 or just right back all. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.080 And then if they don't respond after you do it, judge. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.159 Je me sauty tapping. Yes, we need to figure that out. Okay, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.640 so we have John Tucker must Die. Maybe later Andrew 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.679 will give you his full review of Dear. 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.200 Yes, why he's so triggered by it. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.760 Also, he's been really triggered by Benson Boone's mystical magical song. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.839 I just can't It's so shreaky. 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:36.159 The man rageous about it. Oh God, it makes you 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.840 want to want Andrew die. Hate Ben some Boone, and 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.960 I don't understand it. He thinks he's overrated. I think 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:43.960 Andrew's crazy because I love Benson Boone and you will 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:44.839 never take him from me. 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.000 I trust me. I'm not trying to grab him from you. 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.720 We'll see about that, but somebody, maybe some people will 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:55.720 be trying to grab today. Jesse Metcalf, All right, I'm 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:56.800 here with Jesse Metcalf. 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:57.880 Hello, Hello. 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.359 I'm very excited about this for multiple reasons. One, you 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:02.840 have a lot of stuff to talk about with your 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.800 Is it neutral? Am I saying neutral neutral skincare sounds good? 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.159 But you also have a ton of projects and John 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.279 Tucker Must Die. Does that ever get old. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:10.560 To talk about? 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.799 No, it doesn't, No, it doesn't. It's something I'm really 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.760 proud of. It's kind of reached this sort of cult 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.320 classic status, you know, which I think is pretty cool, 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.039 sort of stood the test of time, even though it 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.600 was critically panned it when it came out. 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:27.400 Oh yeah, I. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.080 Feel like the critics are bombs because some of the 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.039 best movies they have panned. American History acts they panned, 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:33.760 and that's one of my favorite. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:34.400 Oh that's insane. 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.920 Yeah, you know, and you look back at the old 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:41.720 Rotten Tomatoes ratings and they were a lot harsher, you know. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.320 Nowadays it's like one hundred percent Rotten Tomatoes, Right, perfect movie, 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.520 Ye go see it? 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:48.240 What else? What else? 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:48.680 Well? 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.640 In your opinion, a movie that's been panned that you 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:51.400 thought was a good one? 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.800 I mean so many, honestly, so many. I mean I 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.359 don't I don't really have one on the tip of 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.719 my tongue. But I don't really listen to the critics 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:02.680 all that much. But I'm not a big Marvel guy. 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:07.960 I'm not a big mainstream sort of summer blockbuster, okay, guy. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.360 I definitely like movies that are a little more left 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.040 to center, a little more indie, Like what are. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.480 If you were recommending a movie to someone to watch 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:16.280 this the. 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:21.680 Movie that broke Mark Ruffalo's career, Ken Flanagan movie called 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.680 You Can count On Me as pretty spectacular, really, you know, 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.080 storytelling and the performances are unreal. 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:30.360 You know. 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.120 But I mean there's so many independent movies. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.040 I mean, like look Anura you know, look at all 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:36.520 the oscars Anura one. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:36.880 Yeah. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:38.360 I mean it's like there's a little bit of an 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.520 independent film renaissance going on right now, which I think 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:41.080 is pretty cool. 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.440 And I love talking to actors about things that are 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.840 outside of the realm of specifically what they do, because 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.960 you get such a good insight into them as a person. 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.960 I would never have thought John Tucker from a very 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.640 long time ago obviously would be talking about how amazing 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:54.600 independent films are. 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:56.640 Okay, I don't think it's that much of a stretch, 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:58.880 for sure, you know, you kind. 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.960 Of pigeonhole people into the that they're doing well. 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.520 Yeah, Hollywood does Hollywood does that pretty well, and the 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.000 media at large, So I guess you're part of the media. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.080 I'm guilty. Yes, this is terrible. Let's talk about your 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:09.840 skincare line. 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:10.200 Please. 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.240 Where did this originate and how long ago? 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.520 Well, I've been asked my entire career about my skincare 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.920 routine on the red carpet. That's nice, you know, twenty 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.120 six years in front of the camera. I feel like 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.720 I've tried nearly every product under the sun, and I 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.120 wanted to create a skincare line that was simple but 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:29.600 incredibly effective, that's sort of cut through the noise of 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:33.360 a cluttered skincare market. You know, we call it neutral, 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.040 you know, it spelled phonetically and U trl skin for 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:42.880 a reason because it's a gender neutral skincare line and 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.680 it's very, very clean, probably the cleanest line on the market. 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:52.520 We have no fragrances, no parabins, no silicones, cruelty free, vegan, 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:56.160 completely organic, and. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:57.400 It's great for all skin types. 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.280 You know, if you have sensitive skin, this is a 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.600 product line that's not going to irritate your skin, but 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.880 is also going to give you the anti aging benefits 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:04.559 that you're looking for. 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:06.640 You do look like you have not aged at all. 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.400 Benjamin Button, not bad. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.320 How long ago did you start this project? 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.440 I started formulating these products two years ago. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.199 And you when you said you started formulating, you said, 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.240 I am going to go into the. 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:19.760 Last I said I was gonna I said, I was 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:24.880 going to take some industry standards like glycolic acid, hyaluronic acid, 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:29.920 alosorbic acid, do a product line around these these acids, 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:34.079 and also add some top of the line peptide complexes. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.480 And that's what I've done. I also wanted to make 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.680 sure that the product was uber clean. 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:42.680 So when you talk about uber clean and vegan cruelty free, 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.000 So where do you guys test? How does this happen? 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.000 I mean it's a pretty arduous process, you know. I 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.040 mean you got to you got to go through quite 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.640 a rigorous testing process and a lab, and you know, 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:53.600 you need to get. 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.240 Scientists to basically formulate your product for you. 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.120 And how did you find your scientists? 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.760 I found them through you know, I have a silent 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:06.280 business partner who's an absolutely great guy, really really supports me. 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.760 I mean, I'm more forward facing with the brand, but 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.160 he had some really great relationships and he introduced me 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.160 to some people out of Las Vegas who have a 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.360 great track record and do a lot of other really 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.000 incredible products, and it was it was a perfect fit. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.240 Where can people find it on the website neutral skin dot. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.200 Com, that's nut rlskin dot com. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.760 Yes, and get the product for fifty percent. 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.560 On oh Wow, one day only. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.800 Actually, I think the products available for the week good. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.360 To know, So go check that out. Andrew over here 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.080 has been stalking it and he wants to try it, 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:41.480 so we will make sure that he does that. 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.400 We will make sure to get Andrew some product a SAP. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.800 Yeah, Andrew, so you've got this going, but you also 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.559 have so much other stuff happening right now. I creature Instagram. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.920 Did I see you in an episode of Law and Order? 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.480 I was, yeah, you were. Yeah, I was just recently 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.160 shooting pretty much right around the corner from here or. 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.000 People cursing that you guys for something down the streets 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:01.960 nor No. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.400 You know that that show is really well received in 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.960 the city. People get excited actually when they see that 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:08.880 you're shooting. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.720 Law and Order. I had an absolute blast. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.520 I mean, I would love to be, you know, a 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.559 series regular on some show in the Dick Wolf universe. 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:20.480 But yeah, no, I mean I. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:25.600 Sort of filled in for macad Brooks, and you know, 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:32.360 I was I was chasing down an insurance company CEO shooter. 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.400 You know. It was a pretty actually controversial episode and 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.560 it was also left open ended. You didn't get the 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:43.120 verdict from the jury, you know, so it was very 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:48.120 culturally relevant episode and you know I had it was 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:52.600 a lot of action. You know, we was awfully cold 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.800 in the city. You know, it was how long ago 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:55.400 did you shoot that? 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:56.320 Geez? 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:56.920 I think it was. 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:57.720 I think it was. 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.240 I think it was in December. Oh wow, yeah, so 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:03.000 it was. 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:03.240 It was. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:04.360 It was a while back. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.839 But uh yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, I'm 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.200 a big fan of of of all those shows. 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.640 You know, they lasted every Yeah, seriously. 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.560 Is there one specific that you like better than the others? 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:14.079 Well? 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.320 I like the og Law and Order, you know, which 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:17.679 is the show that I was on, but Law and 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:23.560 Order SVU obviously with Marishka Hargatea and Kelly Giddish who 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:27.160 I worked with on another law enforcement procedural, a show 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.120 that we did called Chase back in the day that 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:34.160 only lasted a season, but there's not many episodic television 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.360 shows that go you know, twenty two, twenty three, twenty 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.360 four episodes anymore. So it's really, uh, it's a great 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.320 gig for an actor if you if you can land 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:42.760 one of those. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.320 I would love to see you as a series right now. 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:45.280 Thank you, Mark, Thank you. 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.960 Do you have when you because obviously that is a 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.880 goal or dream. Is there a role that you say, 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.400 this is what I've been pursuing, this is something that 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.040 I really want to do, you know. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.320 I I would just obviously like the opportunity to you know, 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.760 flex my acting chops a little bit more and get 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:06.599 some more complicated characters and some some some deeper roles. 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:07.320 And some dramas. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.440 You know, I was a big fan of the True 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:15.760 Detective series. You know, I'd love to do something a 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.679 little darker, a little grittier like that. But you know, 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.319 I often get asked, you know, is there is there 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.120 one role that you you know, have sort of dreamed 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.560 of always playing. And it's a very difficult question to answer, 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.440 you know, It's it's really just about the quality of material. 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.679 You know, I think you're sort of defined by the 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.800 choices you made earlier early in your career, and you've 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.320 got to convince people that that you can do more, 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.960 you know, and it's you're constantly reinventing yourself in this business. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:44.720 So that's sort of what I'm in the process of doing. 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:46.560 Okay, So when you talk about that and you say 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.400 you're sort of pigeonholed because I did it to you 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.560 a second ago, would you go back and change anything 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.320 from the beginning of your career because of that? 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.920 I mean, there's there's plenty of things that I would 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.280 do differently in my life and in my career. I 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.120 don't think you could find anyone who would say, oh, no, 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.160 I did everything perfectly. I did everything just as I planned. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:08.200 Do you say that? Because I actually work with someone 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.600 who says he has zero regrets, I'm like, how, what 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:11.560 are you insane? 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.319 No, he's just lying, right. I can understand you. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:15.840 Saying I've learned from everything and it brought me to 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:17.960 the place where I am right now. But no regret. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:19.760 How continue? 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:21.480 So I think, yeah, I agree with you. I think 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.840 that you can respect your journey, you know, and and 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:29.000 acknowledge that maybe certain missteps that you might have made helped, 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:34.600 you know, create you and and helped you grow. I 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:39.200 know I certainly have grown immensely from early in my career, 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:43.480 but I think once you break as an actor. So look, 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.560 I did like five years on daytime television. I did 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:49.520 a soap opera called Passions, this ridiculous, supernatural soap opera 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.600 that sounds great, was also a close a cult classic 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:57.000 in its own right, you know, in daytime. But after 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.280 that I sort of took the leap to prime time 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.480 and I and I made it. You know, I broke 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:07.200 with Desperate Housewives, which is an iconic show. But after 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.960 you know, sort of breaking as it were. You know, 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.680 you need to make very strategic choices, and it may 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.200 take one year, two years, three years to get that 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.560 next role or that next opportunity that's going to take 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.200 you to the next level, you know. 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.239 And you have to be very strategic. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.040 You can't just jump at the first thing that's presented 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.560 to you, you know. And I was, you know, I'm 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:35.320 a small town Connecticut boy. I came from pretty humble beginnings, 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.120 you know, very lower middle class, and then we worked 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:39.920 our way into the middle class, you know, sort of 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.560 blue collar family. So you know, when someone told me 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.480 I was going to make you know X if I 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.280 did this or did that. I mean, I jumped at 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:48.880 these opportunities, you know. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:50.920 But I think you have to. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.880 It's just as powerful, you know, to say no as 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.280 it is to say yes. You know, So you have 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.200 to be strategic, you know. And then you know, based 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.440 on the choices that you make, people form an opinion 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.400 about you, about what you're capable of, you know. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:07.560 And and you know, I'm not. 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.200 I didn't come on your your show to you know, 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.440 tell tell you my sob story, you know. I mean 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.200 it's like it's like, yeah, I've I've had a very 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.760 successful career and I've lived a very great life, you know, 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.760 in Hollywood. But I mean there's there's always things that 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.280 in retrospect, you might have done a little bit. 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.240 Differently, for sure. I mean I think that would, like 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.640 you said, be the case with anybody. I love my 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.640 job now. I'm so lucky to be where I am 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:32.840 at the moment. I made so many missteps on my 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:34.640 way getting here that if I could go back and 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.720 change it, yeah, I totally would. Specifically, like I wouldn't. 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:39.760 I wouldn't have let certain people treat me a certain 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.560 way because I to your point, have realized the power 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.800 of no is so much more. It's a lot stronger 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:47.640 than always saying yes, I'm trying to please people, because 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:48.960 as soon as you stop, all of a sudden, oh 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.040 my god, no, somebody gives a shit and they respect 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.920 you a little bit more. So that's kind of, I think, 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.120 a universal thing that people would have hopefully learn from 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:56.560 their past. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:57.080 Definitely. 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.960 Yeah, so you wouldn't You don't want to name specifically, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:01.600 like what you would or wouldn't have done differently. 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.199