1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Sauce on the side. Wow, another week without Diamond. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: Where is she? I don't know, You'll never know. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: She's a big time in me man. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so true. 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Wow, I thought I had producers. Oh wait here you 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: are Hi. Hi, It's Andrew. I'm Gandhi and this is 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: Sauce on the Side. Today we actually have a guest 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: who I think a lot of people will be very 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: excited about because he's a babe. I'm gonna be able 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: to keep it together for this one. 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: I love bet for you. Yeah. 12 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: I get very sweaty around people I'm actually attracted to, 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: and I can't function or say normal things. 14 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: I almost feel like that you believe videos where it's 15 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: like the red flag meter, except I just need your 16 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: hydration meter a sweat drop Poe. 17 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: I can wholeheartedly admire that he is a babe, but 18 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: he's not the type that's gonna make me sweat. 19 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna be. 20 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Okay here, all right. He's here to talk about all 21 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: kinds of things, his skincare line. He's been doing a 22 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, But in my head and maybe in 23 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: a lot of other people's head, he is forever John Tucker. 24 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: John Tucker must die I have a friend who got 25 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: John Tuckard in high school because he was doing the 26 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: same crap dating a bunch of people. I think it 27 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: might be like traumatic for him, which makes me laugh 28 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: because I'm like, you traumatize all these people first, and 29 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: then they just got you back, and you're upset about it. 30 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: They basically tried to like abandon him, Nickdow. 31 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just hysterical though. 32 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, things happen, and good for them. That's what. Yes, 33 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: Rise up, ladies, Yes, get. 34 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: Your revenge, Get your revenge. 35 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Also, funniest thing about John Tucker Must Die is I'm 36 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: pretty sure every person in that movie was like thirty 37 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: years old when they were filming it. It was like 38 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: a shanty. 39 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: Yes, it wasn't like Mean Girls, where like you could 40 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: see the age, Like and Lindsay Olhanan was what like 41 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: seventeen playing like a sophomore. 42 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: Regina George was like twenty eight playing a senior. 43 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: But she looked like a senior. Yeah, Rachel McAdams looked 44 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: like she could still be in high school. 45 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: I don't even know anymore. 46 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: I mean the fact that she was only like six 47 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: or seven years younger than Amy Poehler who played her moms. 48 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, cracks me up. 49 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: So offensive for Amy Pohlar, do you guess? 50 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: But John Tucker must. I literally was like, hey, thirty 51 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: year olds, you're in high school now. They did the 52 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: Ben Platt from Dear Evan Hanson. 53 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: That movie, that movie Pisces Andrew off so bad. 54 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: Play the movie, all of it. 55 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: And it's triggered. Do not bring up Evan Hanson, Dear 56 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: Evan Hansen. Don't do it, he said. He laughed his 57 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: way through it. By the way, it is about suicide, 58 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: so we'll start there. Andrew just had a ball. 59 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: With that one. 60 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. There's a lot more to 61 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: it that they don't mention. 62 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: Would you like to mention it? This is a free space. 63 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: This the intro. 64 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: Last time we were going to do an intro to 65 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: go into an interview, it took thirty minutes, so we 66 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: could do it in the outro if we want to. 67 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. So I still don't think I'm able 68 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: to talk about it fully yet. But I was told 69 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: when I started this podcast that this is like my domain. 70 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: You can do what you want to do, you can 71 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: say what you want to say, have a good time. 72 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: And then we interviewed someone, and then I found out 73 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: real quick that apparently it is not my domain and 74 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: it is not my podcast. And when I tell you, 75 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: I have a list of grief and says that went 76 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: on their hardcore. So one of these days I'm gonna 77 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: talk about it, maybe like two episodes from now, because 78 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: I think everybody has probably stopped listening. 79 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: Who was a nice tease? 80 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: Really caring? Ye keep listening and I'll tell you why 81 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm pissed off. But yeah, so I don't think anyone's 82 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: gonna give you shit if you light up, Dear Vanhanson 83 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 1: right now. 84 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: I'm afraid that if I go into it, then you're 85 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: gonna be like ha ha, and then we're going to 86 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: talk about something else because we just get distracted so 87 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: easily from each other. 88 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: You do ramble, That's true. We get paid to ramble. 89 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: Thank you, We do. 90 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: We you do? 91 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: Okay, if you were to say what what, let's start 92 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: with you. What is your job description? 93 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: Technically it's the operations manager for the morning show, which 94 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: basically just like keep everybody happy somehow, which exactly see 95 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: you left me very happy. 96 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: There you go. 97 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying tasking someone with keeping this show. 98 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: Happy is insane when you have all these different personalities. 99 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: It's, in so many words, being an adult babysitter. 100 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: First of all, I resent that. 101 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: Well where that's it exactly? 102 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 4: Can you? 103 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: And my other job is the executive producer for the 104 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: podcast network, So just get new shows. Yeah, Honestly, it's 105 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: why I think i'd be great on Survivor. A lot 106 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: of management, a lot of managing people and their egos, 107 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: and also like time and budgets and all this other stuff. 108 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 3: It's like a lot of things wrapped into one. 109 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: Okay, where are you at with Survivor? 110 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: So I'm making a new video. 111 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: How many have you made? 112 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: I have been actively applying since I got rejected for 113 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: that original one, originally for going. 114 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 2: Out to cast. 115 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeahs ago no ten seasons ago, thirty seven, thirty eight 116 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: was the one that I was invited to finals casting for. 117 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: Okay, So now I'm gonna taste. 118 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm using a friend on the inside to hopefully 119 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: fast track this next. 120 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: I won't say that fingers crossed, don't say that. I 121 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: don't know. 122 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: Oh God, again, it's the casting person listening, because then 123 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: I guess what they come to you. 124 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: You're gonna be like I owe you nothing. 125 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: No. 126 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: Listen, if a casting person came to me about this 127 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: first of all, it'd be too late because they already 128 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: heard it true. But I would, for your sake edit 129 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: something and then tell them after I owe you nothing, okay, yes, 130 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: or just right back all. 131 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: And then if they don't respond after you do it, judge. 132 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: Je me sauty tapping. Yes, we need to figure that out. Okay, 133 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: so we have John Tucker must Die. Maybe later Andrew 134 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: will give you his full review of Dear. 135 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: Yes, why he's so triggered by it. 136 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: Also, he's been really triggered by Benson Boone's mystical magical song. 137 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: I just can't It's so shreaky. 138 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: The man rageous about it. Oh God, it makes you 139 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: want to want Andrew die. Hate Ben some Boone, and 140 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't understand it. He thinks he's overrated. I think 141 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: Andrew's crazy because I love Benson Boone and you will 142 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: never take him from me. 143 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: I trust me. I'm not trying to grab him from you. 144 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: We'll see about that, but somebody, maybe some people will 145 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: be trying to grab today. Jesse Metcalf, All right, I'm 146 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: here with Jesse Metcalf. 147 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello. 148 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: I'm very excited about this for multiple reasons. One, you 149 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of stuff to talk about with your 150 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: Is it neutral? Am I saying neutral neutral skincare sounds good? 151 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: But you also have a ton of projects and John 152 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: Tucker Must Die. Does that ever get old. 153 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: To talk about? 154 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 4: No, it doesn't, No, it doesn't. It's something I'm really 155 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: proud of. It's kind of reached this sort of cult 156 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: classic status, you know, which I think is pretty cool, 157 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 4: sort of stood the test of time, even though it 158 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 4: was critically panned it when it came out. 159 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I. 160 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: Feel like the critics are bombs because some of the 161 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: best movies they have panned. American History acts they panned, 162 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: and that's one of my favorite. 163 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: Oh that's insane. 164 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and you look back at the old 165 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 4: Rotten Tomatoes ratings and they were a lot harsher, you know. 166 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: Nowadays it's like one hundred percent Rotten Tomatoes, Right, perfect movie, 167 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: Ye go see it? 168 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: What else? What else? 169 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: Well? 170 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: In your opinion, a movie that's been panned that you 171 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: thought was a good one? 172 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: I mean so many, honestly, so many. I mean I 173 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 4: don't I don't really have one on the tip of 174 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 4: my tongue. But I don't really listen to the critics 175 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: all that much. But I'm not a big Marvel guy. 176 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: I'm not a big mainstream sort of summer blockbuster, okay, guy. 177 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: I definitely like movies that are a little more left 178 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 4: to center, a little more indie, Like what are. 179 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: If you were recommending a movie to someone to watch 180 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: this the. 181 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: Movie that broke Mark Ruffalo's career, Ken Flanagan movie called 182 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 4: You Can count On Me as pretty spectacular, really, you know, 183 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: storytelling and the performances are unreal. 184 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: You know. 185 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: But I mean there's so many independent movies. 186 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 4: I mean, like look Anura you know, look at all 187 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: the oscars Anura one. 188 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 189 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: I mean it's like there's a little bit of an 190 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: independent film renaissance going on right now, which I think 191 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 4: is pretty cool. 192 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: And I love talking to actors about things that are 193 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: outside of the realm of specifically what they do, because 194 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: you get such a good insight into them as a person. 195 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: I would never have thought John Tucker from a very 196 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: long time ago obviously would be talking about how amazing 197 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: independent films are. 198 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't think it's that much of a stretch, 199 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: for sure, you know, you kind. 200 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Of pigeonhole people into the that they're doing well. 201 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hollywood does Hollywood does that pretty well, and the 202 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 4: media at large, So I guess you're part of the media. 203 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm guilty. Yes, this is terrible. Let's talk about your 204 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: skincare line. 205 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: Please. 206 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: Where did this originate and how long ago? 207 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 4: Well, I've been asked my entire career about my skincare 208 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: routine on the red carpet. That's nice, you know, twenty 209 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 4: six years in front of the camera. I feel like 210 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: I've tried nearly every product under the sun, and I 211 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: wanted to create a skincare line that was simple but 212 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 4: incredibly effective, that's sort of cut through the noise of 213 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: a cluttered skincare market. You know, we call it neutral, 214 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: you know, it spelled phonetically and U trl skin for 215 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: a reason because it's a gender neutral skincare line and 216 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 4: it's very, very clean, probably the cleanest line on the market. 217 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: We have no fragrances, no parabins, no silicones, cruelty free, vegan, 218 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: completely organic, and. 219 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: It's great for all skin types. 220 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: You know, if you have sensitive skin, this is a 221 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 4: product line that's not going to irritate your skin, but 222 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: is also going to give you the anti aging benefits 223 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 4: that you're looking for. 224 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: You do look like you have not aged at all. 225 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: Benjamin Button, not bad. 226 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: How long ago did you start this project? 227 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: I started formulating these products two years ago. 228 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: And you when you said you started formulating, you said, 229 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: I am going to go into the. 230 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: Last I said I was gonna I said, I was 231 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: going to take some industry standards like glycolic acid, hyaluronic acid, 232 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: alosorbic acid, do a product line around these these acids, 233 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 4: and also add some top of the line peptide complexes. 234 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: And that's what I've done. I also wanted to make 235 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 4: sure that the product was uber clean. 236 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: So when you talk about uber clean and vegan cruelty free, 237 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: So where do you guys test? How does this happen? 238 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 4: I mean it's a pretty arduous process, you know. I 239 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: mean you got to you got to go through quite 240 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 4: a rigorous testing process and a lab, and you know, 241 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 4: you need to get. 242 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: Scientists to basically formulate your product for you. 243 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: And how did you find your scientists? 244 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: I found them through you know, I have a silent 245 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: business partner who's an absolutely great guy, really really supports me. 246 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm more forward facing with the brand, but 247 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 4: he had some really great relationships and he introduced me 248 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 4: to some people out of Las Vegas who have a 249 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 4: great track record and do a lot of other really 250 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: incredible products, and it was it was a perfect fit. 251 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 4: Where can people find it on the website neutral skin dot. 252 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: Com, that's nut rlskin dot com. 253 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: Yes, and get the product for fifty percent. 254 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: On oh Wow, one day only. 255 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: Actually, I think the products available for the week good. 256 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: To know, So go check that out. Andrew over here 257 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: has been stalking it and he wants to try it, 258 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: so we will make sure that he does that. 259 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: We will make sure to get Andrew some product a SAP. 260 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Andrew, so you've got this going, but you also 261 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: have so much other stuff happening right now. I creature Instagram. 262 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: Did I see you in an episode of Law and Order? 263 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: I was, yeah, you were. Yeah, I was just recently 264 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 4: shooting pretty much right around the corner from here or. 265 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: People cursing that you guys for something down the streets 266 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: nor No. 267 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: You know that that show is really well received in 268 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 4: the city. People get excited actually when they see that 269 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: you're shooting. 270 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: Law and Order. I had an absolute blast. 271 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I would love to be, you know, a 272 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 4: series regular on some show in the Dick Wolf universe. 273 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I mean I. 274 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: Sort of filled in for macad Brooks, and you know, 275 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: I was I was chasing down an insurance company CEO shooter. 276 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: You know. It was a pretty actually controversial episode and 277 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 4: it was also left open ended. You didn't get the 278 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 4: verdict from the jury, you know, so it was very 279 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: culturally relevant episode and you know I had it was 280 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 4: a lot of action. You know, we was awfully cold 281 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: in the city. You know, it was how long ago 282 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 4: did you shoot that? 283 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: Geez? 284 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: I think it was. 285 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 4: I think it was. 286 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: I think it was in December. Oh wow, yeah, so 287 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: it was. 288 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: It was. 289 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: It was a while back. 290 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 4: But uh yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, I'm 291 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 4: a big fan of of of all those shows. 292 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: You know, they lasted every Yeah, seriously. 293 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: Is there one specific that you like better than the others? 294 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 2: Well? 295 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 4: I like the og Law and Order, you know, which 296 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 4: is the show that I was on, but Law and 297 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 4: Order SVU obviously with Marishka Hargatea and Kelly Giddish who 298 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 4: I worked with on another law enforcement procedural, a show 299 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: that we did called Chase back in the day that 300 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: only lasted a season, but there's not many episodic television 301 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: shows that go you know, twenty two, twenty three, twenty 302 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: four episodes anymore. So it's really, uh, it's a great 303 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 4: gig for an actor if you if you can land 304 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 4: one of those. 305 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: I would love to see you as a series right now. 306 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark, Thank you. 307 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: Do you have when you because obviously that is a 308 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: goal or dream. Is there a role that you say, 309 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: this is what I've been pursuing, this is something that 310 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: I really want to do, you know. 311 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 4: I I would just obviously like the opportunity to you know, 312 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: flex my acting chops a little bit more and get 313 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 4: some more complicated characters and some some some deeper roles. 314 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: And some dramas. 315 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: You know, I was a big fan of the True 316 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: Detective series. You know, I'd love to do something a 317 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 4: little darker, a little grittier like that. But you know, 318 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 4: I often get asked, you know, is there is there 319 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 4: one role that you you know, have sort of dreamed 320 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 4: of always playing. And it's a very difficult question to answer, 321 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 4: you know, It's it's really just about the quality of material. 322 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 4: You know, I think you're sort of defined by the 323 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: choices you made earlier early in your career, and you've 324 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 4: got to convince people that that you can do more, 325 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 4: you know, and it's you're constantly reinventing yourself in this business. 326 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 4: So that's sort of what I'm in the process of doing. 327 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: Okay, So when you talk about that and you say 328 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: you're sort of pigeonholed because I did it to you 329 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: a second ago, would you go back and change anything 330 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: from the beginning of your career because of that? 331 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: I mean, there's there's plenty of things that I would 332 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 4: do differently in my life and in my career. I 333 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: don't think you could find anyone who would say, oh, no, 334 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 4: I did everything perfectly. I did everything just as I planned. 335 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: Do you say that? Because I actually work with someone 336 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: who says he has zero regrets, I'm like, how, what 337 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: are you insane? 338 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 2: No, he's just lying, right. I can understand you. 339 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: Saying I've learned from everything and it brought me to 340 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: the place where I am right now. But no regret. 341 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: How continue? 342 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, I agree with you. I think 343 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: that you can respect your journey, you know, and and 344 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 4: acknowledge that maybe certain missteps that you might have made helped, 345 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: you know, create you and and helped you grow. I 346 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: know I certainly have grown immensely from early in my career, 347 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: but I think once you break as an actor. So look, 348 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: I did like five years on daytime television. I did 349 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: a soap opera called Passions, this ridiculous, supernatural soap opera 350 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: that sounds great, was also a close a cult classic 351 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: in its own right, you know, in daytime. But after 352 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 4: that I sort of took the leap to prime time 353 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: and I and I made it. You know, I broke 354 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 4: with Desperate Housewives, which is an iconic show. But after 355 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 4: you know, sort of breaking as it were. You know, 356 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 4: you need to make very strategic choices, and it may 357 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: take one year, two years, three years to get that 358 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: next role or that next opportunity that's going to take 359 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 4: you to the next level, you know. 360 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,239 Speaker 2: And you have to be very strategic. 361 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 4: You can't just jump at the first thing that's presented 362 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 4: to you, you know. And I was, you know, I'm 363 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 4: a small town Connecticut boy. I came from pretty humble beginnings, 364 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: you know, very lower middle class, and then we worked 365 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: our way into the middle class, you know, sort of 366 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 4: blue collar family. So you know, when someone told me 367 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 4: I was going to make you know X if I 368 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: did this or did that. I mean, I jumped at 369 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 4: these opportunities, you know. 370 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: But I think you have to. 371 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: It's just as powerful, you know, to say no as 372 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 4: it is to say yes. You know, So you have 373 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 4: to be strategic, you know. And then you know, based 374 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: on the choices that you make, people form an opinion 375 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: about you, about what you're capable of, you know. 376 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: And and you know, I'm not. 377 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: I didn't come on your your show to you know, 378 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: tell tell you my sob story, you know. I mean 379 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 4: it's like it's like, yeah, I've I've had a very 380 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: successful career and I've lived a very great life, you know, 381 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 4: in Hollywood. But I mean there's there's always things that 382 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 4: in retrospect, you might have done a little bit. 383 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: Differently, for sure. I mean I think that would, like 384 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: you said, be the case with anybody. I love my 385 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: job now. I'm so lucky to be where I am 386 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: at the moment. I made so many missteps on my 387 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: way getting here that if I could go back and 388 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: change it, yeah, I totally would. Specifically, like I wouldn't. 389 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have let certain people treat me a certain 390 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: way because I to your point, have realized the power 391 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: of no is so much more. It's a lot stronger 392 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: than always saying yes, I'm trying to please people, because 393 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: as soon as you stop, all of a sudden, oh 394 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: my god, no, somebody gives a shit and they respect 395 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: you a little bit more. So that's kind of, I think, 396 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: a universal thing that people would have hopefully learn from 397 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: their past. 398 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: Definitely. 399 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you wouldn't You don't want to name specifically, 400 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: like what you would or wouldn't have done differently. 401 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 2: Well, it's maybe the opposite of you. I never let 402 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 2: anybody mistreat me. 403 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 4: Well that's nice, but I was so triggered by maybe 404 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: the smallest thing in my career, you know, when I 405 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 4: was younger, you know, I had a bit of a 406 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 4: chip on my shoulder that I would just like avisce 407 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 4: array somebody really, you know, if I thought they were 408 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 4: disrespecting me, you know, And I think again, you have 409 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 4: to be strategic, you have to be diplomatic, you know, 410 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: being an actor, being in the industry is almost like 411 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 4: being a politician. 412 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: Ah, yes, it is. How much feedback do you look 413 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: at about yourself now that social media is around? Do 414 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: you at all? 415 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm on social media do you read the 416 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: comment section? 417 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 4: Sure? 418 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 2: Sometimes good for you. 419 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that hurts my feelings. I can't do it. 420 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 421 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talk about this all the time. So again, 422 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: love the show. It's amazing. Within the show. I'm the 423 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: newest to the group, but I'm the co host and 424 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: I'm just different than them in every way. So a 425 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: lot of our longtime listeners have really big feelings about 426 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: a lot of things, and they started a whole rightit 427 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: room about me and how I suck. And I looked 428 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: at it once and I was like, never again, I 429 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: will never do this again. 430 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: That can That can be tough. That can be tough, 431 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 4: but at least you haven't an impact. 432 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah that's like, you know what boring? 433 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: Not boring? I will Yeah, that's great. That's the way 434 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: to look at it. Do you have somebody who manages 435 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: your your social media or do it yourself? 436 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: No? 437 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: I do it myself. 438 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, Okay. How has social media impacted the way 439 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: that you move now? 440 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: Tremendously? Has it tremendously? 441 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: Well? 442 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, when these platforms came about, most 443 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: actors during the period I came up in the industry 444 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 4: resisted being on them, you know, because. 445 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: Well we were. 446 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 4: We were told that we had to maintain our mystique, 447 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 4: you know, that that you couldn't share too much about 448 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 4: your personal life. And I and I still believe that 449 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 4: to a certain extent. I mean, there are a lot 450 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: of huge actors who you know, very little about their 451 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 4: personal lives, and I'm sure they're happy to keep it 452 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: that way. But I felt like I needed to embrace 453 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 4: it because I mean, one, there's a lot of money 454 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: to be made on social media, but two it's a 455 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 4: way to to kind of take control of your own narrative, 456 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: you know, and and take control of your own image 457 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 4: and sort of curate, you know, what you want to 458 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 4: put out there about yourself. 459 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: It is kind of nice. 460 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, And you can also respond to things on social media, 461 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 4: and many people do. 462 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I don't. 463 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 4: I don't tend to add fuel to a fire, you know, 464 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 4: if like you know, someone has, you know, come out 465 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 4: in the press or something and says something negative about me. 466 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: I mean I don't generally like. 467 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 4: Hop on my social media and like refute it or comment, 468 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 4: you know, but but you have the opportunity to do that. 469 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 4: I mean, our president does that, dear God, I mean, 470 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 4: he lets it rip. He you know, he doesn't let 471 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 4: anything slot. 472 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't, especially things that he's created, is that it's fascinating. 473 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: So when you say that you're kind of moving differently. 474 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: There to be a time you could just walk outside, 475 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: maybe go to the grocery store, and people weren't recording 476 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: you and filming your every move. Now, somebody sees Jesse 477 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: Metcalf walk out of a building, they're probably like, oh shit, 478 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: there it goes, and they record you. Does that change 479 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: your day to day where you go and what you do? 480 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 4: I feel like we've actually hit a bit of a 481 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 4: tipping point where there's so much footage of celebrities and 482 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 4: there's just so much media out there that people care 483 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 4: less now. I feel like in the early to mid 484 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 4: two thousands there was much more of an appetite for 485 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 4: internet media about celebrities and paparazzi shots and stuff like that. 486 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: But I don't feel like it's at such a fever 487 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 4: pitch as it once was. I don't even think about it. 488 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: You just love life. 489 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 4: But there was a time, but there was a time 490 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 4: in my career where it caused me anxiety. You know, 491 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 4: there was a time in my career where I was 492 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 4: paranoid about it. You know, there was a time when 493 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 4: I when I felt like I always had to get 494 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 4: a constantly look my best, and you know, constantly be 495 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: looking over my shoulder. You know, is somebody recording me 496 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 4: as someone taking a picture of me. But you know, 497 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: if you're living right, you don't have a whole lot 498 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: to worry about, unless maybe. 499 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: You're picking your nose. Oh yeah, yeah, it was even 500 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: pick my nose, but it looks like it. 501 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: We were at a Mets game and we got very lucky. 502 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: We got to sit in the very front row, right 503 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: behind the catcher, and they zoom in on us, and 504 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: I was sitting like this with my finger under my nose. 505 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: But the angle looks like it's in my nose. 506 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, they got You. 507 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: Got me clearly, not the end of the world. Nobody cared. 508 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: But I think that the fever pitch is a gift 509 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: and a curse because there is that potential for something 510 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: to blow up immediately, and all of a sudden, you 511 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: have all this attention from something very tiny. Also, all 512 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: this attention from something very tiny. But I don't really 513 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: feel that canceling is a thing anymore. The way that 514 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: the cycle moves is so quick that somebody can make 515 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: the worst mistakes, say the most horrible thing one day, 516 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: and a week later, nobody remembers because of how fast 517 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: it's all moving, which is kind of nice and also 518 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: kind of terrible. 519 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 4: No, I think it's I think it's more nice, though, 520 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: do you think it's more nice? Well, we can't be 521 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 4: canceling people left, right and center, you know, we need 522 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: to We need to give people. You know, we're all 523 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: human beings, We make mistakes. We need to give people 524 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: second chances. We need to give people the ability to 525 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 4: redeem themselves, you know, absolutely. And yeah, I mean everything 526 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 4: that that went on during the COVID era, you know, 527 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: and people losing their livelihoods and their careers and their reputations. 528 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: You know a lot of people are probably. 529 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 4: Still trying to salvage their lives, you know, from some 530 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 4: of the things that happened at that time. So I 531 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 4: definitely don't think that that's right. But I mean, you know, 532 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 4: I'm a very forgiving, empathetic person, So you know, I 533 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 4: think every everyone, everyone deserves a second chance and a 534 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 4: third chance. 535 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly agree with you on that. I wanted to 536 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: tibe another fourth chance just three strikes are out, but 537 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 1: we'll give you the three. I wanted to do a 538 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: podcast called the Cancel Club where all of these people 539 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: who have had this reus cancelation of whatever it is 540 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: interesting come on and have a conversation. 541 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: I love that idea. That's great. 542 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: I love that idea to when my company's in trouble, 543 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: we'll see anyway exactly. Yeah. I think it would be 544 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: fun because I the thing that outrages me the most, 545 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: and I can't even say outrage it just find it 546 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: bizarre is that people will go back into the history 547 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: of someone's Twitter from when they were sixteen years old 548 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: and find a tweet that they feel as offensive now 549 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: and string that person up fifteen years later about something 550 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: they said when they were sixteen. I think if you 551 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: go back into anyone's history, whether they tweeted it or 552 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: just lived it, you're gonna find a lot of crap 553 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: like that. And people are just holding other people to 554 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: the standard that they're not even meeting, and people are 555 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: suffering because of it. It's insane. 556 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 4: Absolutely me neither. 557 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: So Cancel Club. I have your approval. Yeah, we're gonna 558 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: do it. Okay, great, what do you have coming up? 559 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: In the future obviously, Neutral skincare. 560 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: I mean, look, I got a couple of movies coming out. 561 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 4: I got a horror movie called Possession at Gladstone Manor 562 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 4: coming out later this year year. Yeah, an action comedy 563 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 4: called Boris Is Dead, which I think should be pretty fun. Yeah. 564 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 4: And I'm just I'm just, you know, on the press 565 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 4: tour here for Neutral Skin sort of making everybody aware 566 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 4: of my product line that I'm incredibly proud of. 567 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: That's awesome and if you're using it as working. 568 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 2: Very well to say, I like to say the proofs 569 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: in the pudding. 570 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, you are the pudding. When it comes to these 571 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: press tours, I'm always very interested because I know you 572 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: guys go back to back to back. What to you 573 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: makes an actual good interview that you feel good about 574 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: when you leave. 575 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 4: I try to stay in the moment when I do 576 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 4: these interviews and not really let my mind wander, and 577 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 4: really connect with the person who's interviewing me, and try 578 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 4: to be fun and try to be somewhat charming if 579 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 4: I can. 580 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: Before the interview started, I asked if there was something 581 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: specific that you wanted to talk about, and you said 582 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: surprise me, which almost never happens anymore because when people 583 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: come in, they will send their manager or whomever with 584 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: a sheet of what not to talk about, and usually 585 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: the things not to talk about or something I was 586 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: never going to bring up anyway, It just to me 587 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: makes the interview start off on a weird note. 588 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: I think that's what makes interviews go wrong. 589 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'm walking on egg Yeah exactly. 590 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 4: And if and if you're you come into an interview 591 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 4: in your tense and you have anxiety and you're worried 592 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 4: about if something's going to be brought up, I mean, 593 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 4: chances are that thing is going to be brought up, 594 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: you know, so you might as well just embrace it. 595 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 4: But it definitely starts the interview off on the wrong foot. 596 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: Can you think of an interview in the past that 597 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: you were like, that was some shit? I wish I 598 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: would have done it differently. 599 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, can we find it some crazy interviews? 600 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 4: Or I've done some phone interviews for some magazines, one 601 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 4: in particular, I'm not going to name the magazine or 602 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 4: the interviewer, but he asked me if I is it 603 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 4: true that I fronted a band called the butt Plugs? 604 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: Is it true? 605 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 4: And and I paused, and then I go, I'm gonna 606 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 4: need to call you back, and I hung up the phone. 607 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 4: I called my publicist and I go, what is going 608 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 4: on with this guy? And he goes, this is sort 609 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 4: of his m o. He just kind of asks off 610 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: the wall disarming questions to make people feel uncomfortable. 611 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: I guess. 612 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 4: And while you know, like mission accomplished, I definitely I 613 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 4: was like, where is this guy coming from? What is 614 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 4: he talking about? Ended up calling the journalists back and 615 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: finishing the interview, and the and the interview ended up 616 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 4: coming out fine. 617 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: It was. 618 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 4: It was a pretty big magazine, basically the biggest magazine 619 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 4: you know you could really be in. So that's why 620 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 4: it really threw me. 621 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: You know, was that moment addressed in the interview? Did 622 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: he say? And then I asked him about it, if 623 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: he front of the butt plugs? 624 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 2: No, he didn't. He didn't include He didn't include it. 625 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: He didn't include it. 626 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 4: And funny enough, his like personal assistant still emails me 627 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 4: to this day inviting him, inviting me to like all 628 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: his events. You know, he's like a New York based, 629 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 4: uh journalist, and you know, I'm doing air quotes right now, 630 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 4: you know. 631 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: So whatever. 632 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: You know, you have those moments, you know, especially in 633 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 4: a twenty six year career. 634 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: Congratulations, that's also kind of right. Yeah, where are you based? 635 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 4: I'm based in Los Angeles, LA, but I also have 636 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 4: a place here in the Lower East Side. 637 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah cool. Because you said Connecticut is where 638 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: your family is from. How is it going back home 639 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: or people like, oh my god, he's here, or they 640 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: let you live because you grew up there. 641 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, Honestly, after twenty six years, I don't even think 642 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 4: about that anymore. I mean, it's like it's an interesting 643 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 4: question that maybe your listeners might be intrigued to hear 644 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 4: my answer to. But my brain doesn't even work like 645 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 4: that anymore. I just I move like a regular person. 646 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 4: Well one, I am a regular person, but I don't 647 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 4: think about my own celebrity, you know, or my own 648 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: relevance or I mean, I'm usually oblivious when somebody recognizes 649 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 4: me or is looking at me. You know, if I'm 650 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 4: hanging with a friend or I'm hanging with my girlfriend, 651 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 4: I'm hanging with my and they're like, oh my god, 652 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 4: that person was losing their mind over you, or these 653 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 4: girls were giggling about you. 654 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I usually didn't even notice it. 655 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if this happens with people from 656 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: your hometown, but you have had a career for a 657 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: long time that people come out of the woodwork now 658 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: to talk about things that have happened with you, Like 659 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: I know on a was it a podcast recently? I 660 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: don't remember the girl's name. Hold on, is it Shanna Sena? Sheena? She? Yeah, 661 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: coming out of the woodwork twenty years after something. 662 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's definitely been coming up today, okay, And. 663 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: I just became aware of it. You don't even know 664 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: what yesterday. 665 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 4: I became aware of it yesterday, wow, okay, or maybe 666 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 4: a couple of days ago when I did Tory Spelling's podcast. 667 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 4: You know, Sheena is a great girl. I'm really happy 668 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 4: for her and for her success. I'm I'm glad that 669 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 4: she enjoyed the time that we spent together, like eighteen 670 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 4: years ago. I'd like to think, you know, I have 671 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 4: more relevant things to talk about, but you know, I'm 672 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 4: no bad blood, you know whatsoever. And I'm happy she 673 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: said something nice about me. 674 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: Oh that's good, okay, positive spin. I like that. 675 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 676 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: We love that here, all right. So one more time. 677 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: If people want to find your product, yeah, neutral. 678 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 4: Skin, neutral skin dot com, Neutral skin dot Yeah, we're 679 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 4: direct to consumer and it's spout phonetically n U t 680 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 4: r L skin dot com. Or if you want to 681 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 4: get fifty percent off, check us out on deals and 682 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: steals on Good Morning America. 683 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: That is a big deal. It is a big congratulations 684 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: on everything. 685 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 686 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm really proud of it. Very Okay, well thanks for 687 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: joining me. 688 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: Thanks, I appreciate that. Yeah, you got it. 689 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: Okay, that went well. 690 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if. 691 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: It actually did. We recorded this before we did the 692 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: Jesse Metcalf interview. How about that? 693 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: WHOA the magic podcasting? 694 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: That's nice. I say all the time. I tell people 695 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: all the time when we record something and when we're 696 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: recording it, because it saves me a lot of editing 697 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: to try and make something sound like it happened on 698 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: the actual day. We recorded the intro and outro first, 699 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: so I guess I should say, wow, I hope that 700 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: went well. Jesse Metcalf was a real cool guy. 701 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 2: I hope I get his skincare line for free. 702 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: Ooh, what did you ask? 703 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: I am wait? No, are you gonna ask to yeah. Absolutely, okay, good. 704 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: First, is it for men specifically? Yes, By the time 705 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: you're hearing us talk about this, he probably already. 706 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: Addressed in the podcast, so true. Cool. 707 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: So if he did in fact say it was for men, 708 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna get it for you. Andrew, thanks, You're welcome 709 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: if you are entertained by what you hear. First of all, 710 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. But also you can follow Andrew hit 711 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: the mic with my classes. You can follow Andrew at 712 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: Andrew pug Yep, he's still trying to be an influencer. 713 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: And you can follow me at Baby Hot Sauce on Instagram, 714 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: on Twitter, on threads wherever like, follow, subscribe, leave us 715 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: a review, leave us a talk back. 716 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: We love those. 717 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for being so supportive. Also of this podcast because 718 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: it's super fun for us to do. 719 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and more stuff coming. 720 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: More stuff coming. 721 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: We are growing baby hell yeah. 722 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: Expect to be sick of us in twenty twenty five, 723 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: maybe twenty twenty six. Either or either or okay, say 724 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: bye bye.