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Speaker 2: In today's episode in the Airlop, we are heading to
Speaker 2: the grimy streets of Gotham to delve into the Penguin.
Speaker 2: Episode one. Matt Reeves Batman spin off is here, and
Speaker 2: we will be breaking it down. And in the comics corner,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be asking when does the Penguin actually take
Speaker 2: place in the comic book timeline, Like if you look
Speaker 2: at the Batman comics, what is going on? And when
Speaker 2: is this taking place? And is it actually taking influence
Speaker 2: from any comics at all. We'll be answering all those questions.
Speaker 1: And next up, let's talk about the Penguin.
Speaker 3: Whoop bomba bah bah blah bah bah woke up in Gossam.
Speaker 3: The power in my hands, built by empire, got a
Speaker 3: plan to rule this land. That's right, it's the story
Speaker 3: of Ozzie copp Oswald Coppa Gulu.
Speaker 1: Crazy is Aswald Copaca the Penguiny Beyes Me Penguin Season one,
Speaker 1: episode one, episode one of the limited series that thus
Speaker 1: far gotta say is great.
Speaker 2: It is pretty fantastic, pretty great, open, pretty stunning.
Speaker 1: Directly in the wakes in the wake of the events
Speaker 1: from The Batman.
Speaker 2: It is literally a week after The Batman, and we
Speaker 2: recently found out that The Batman too will take place
Speaker 2: a week after the end of this show. Oh wow, Okay,
Speaker 2: so Matt Reeves said, this is happening, so quick, quick,
Speaker 2: quick recap of what happened at the end of The Batman.
Speaker 1: The Griddler, as per his plans, destroyed the sea wall
Speaker 1: protecting the city from the waters surrounding it. Much of
Speaker 1: the city, but honestly mostly the kind of lower income districts. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so it's like a Hurricane Katrina esque situation. And
Speaker 1: tell us what's going on with some of the crime
Speaker 1: figures in the wake of The Batman.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a big This is going back
Speaker 2: to some of the most famous Batman or our stuff.
Speaker 2: So you have the Falconies and who we first met
Speaker 2: in Batman Year one, which is by Frank Miller and
Speaker 2: David Mazakelli, which makes a lot of sense because The
Speaker 2: Batman was kind of meant to be a Batman Year
Speaker 2: two era. That is who we met sal for Falcony
Speaker 2: it John Taturo's character, who we learned in the World
Speaker 2: of the Batman was also the father of Catwoman. He
Speaker 2: was killed and now we're in a situation where the
Speaker 2: families are in a mess. Salmrony, who we saw briefly
Speaker 2: mentioned because he'd been put in prison in The Batman,
Speaker 2: is played by Clancy Brown in The Wonderful The Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Fantastic Clancy Brown and Sammaroni is a really old
Speaker 2: school Batman villain. He was from Detective Comics sixty six.
Speaker 2: So you're talking about the originators of Batman, Bill Finger
Speaker 2: and Bob Cain. It is very classical kind of representations
Speaker 2: of what people thought mobsters were. I think, if I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken, I'm pretty sure Carma and Falconi was meant
Speaker 2: to be based on don Vito Corleoni from the Godfather.
Speaker 2: And then The Long Halloween, which was the Jeff Low
Speaker 2: Tim Sale comic is when we met the wider Falconi family,
Speaker 2: who play a massive part in this story. And interestingly,
Speaker 2: it is not The Long Halloween. Let's just preface that.
Speaker 2: We'll talk more about the comics later, but a lot
Speaker 2: of people though it might be The Long Halloween. But
Speaker 2: basically where we are now is Maroni's in prison, his
Speaker 2: family wants revenge. Falconi is dead, and his family's trying
Speaker 2: to work out who's going to take over. And guess
Speaker 2: who thinks he should take over? Oh Ozzie Cobbs, Oh
Speaker 2: Ozzie korn Cobbs.
Speaker 1: So you laid out Rosie. With Marconi dead, his son
Speaker 1: Alberto is positioned to take the crown to become the
Speaker 1: leader of the crime family. Only issue is Alberta is
Speaker 1: addicted to drops. He's got a lot of addiction. He's
Speaker 1: a drop head. He's a drop head. And so in
Speaker 1: this landscape with like two crime families kind of jostling
Speaker 1: for power and the city and chaos, the penguin is
Speaker 1: looking to like climb up the ladder. Azzi Cabbaducco, Ozzie Cobb.
Speaker 1: He breaks into his the Old Club to get into
Speaker 1: the contents of a secret safe. He's got in this
Speaker 1: safe a bunch of blackmail files so that he can
Speaker 1: start squeezing some of the local politicians. And he's got
Speaker 1: a bunch of jewels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's clear that this is sal Falcon's. This is
Speaker 2: this is I mean, this is common Falcony's like, this
Speaker 2: is his secret secrets stash.
Speaker 1: So Alberto the Son gets to drop on the penguin,
Speaker 1: but the penguin as he will do clearly throughout the Yeah,
Speaker 1: a thing about watching this, It talks himself, I was
Speaker 1: getting these jools for you.
Speaker 2: Wanted to make sure no one else caught him, get
Speaker 2: myself in that.
Speaker 1: You know, Alberto, I've always been a big supporter you.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I understand you and a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure everybody you know looking looking at you now,
Speaker 1: and Alberto is like, yeah, it's clear like he's feeling it.
Speaker 1: He also hints that he's got some sort of secret deal,
Speaker 1: secret drug deals, some new experimental drug that can revolutionize
Speaker 1: the drug tradeing Gotham. He's working on that. Now. Oz
Speaker 1: takes the opportunity. Here's that and he's like, oh, that's interesting,
Speaker 1: and he immediately is like, let me get this kid
Speaker 1: talking he brings. He's like, hey, I know you got
Speaker 1: the drop problem, but that means you could drink, right,
Speaker 1: you drink Hey, So they started drinking. One thing leads
Speaker 1: to another use. You know, Alberto is absolutely doing drops, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Because I'm guessing cops just like Oswald gave him the drops,
Speaker 2: you know, that's what he wanted. And I want to say,
Speaker 2: I find it so funny that every time in these stories,
Speaker 2: like whether it's in the comics or in the movies
Speaker 2: or in you know, eighties movies like RoboCop two, there
Speaker 2: is something that people find so appealing storytellers about this,
Speaker 2: like a new drug sitting in the streets, a new
Speaker 2: street drug. And that was definitely a big thing in
Speaker 2: The Batman with drops, but we're getting an expansion on
Speaker 2: it here, and I'm very interested to know what Alberto's
Speaker 2: new drug is because it definitely feels like it could
Speaker 2: be some kind of scarecrow.
Speaker 1: I think situation. Yeah, I think it's scarecrow stuff. So
Speaker 1: the kid starts talking more about this drug and he's
Speaker 1: very very enthused about it, about the way it's going
Speaker 1: to revolutionize the drug trade, et cetera. Meanwhile, the penguin
Speaker 1: is playing it as he will again all series, like
Speaker 1: he's he's just a yes man, like he's just one yeah,
Speaker 1: regular thug.
Speaker 4: Yeah you got a guy, what a great idea, boss,
Speaker 4: And then he starts talking about, uh, the penguin does
Speaker 4: about his like come up in organized crime, Uh you
Speaker 4: know the hoods that like took him under his wing,
Speaker 4: and how the leaders that he really respected that taught him.
Speaker 1: The ropes were like beloved, not just you know, they
Speaker 1: were killers obviously in criminals, but their their gang members
Speaker 1: like loved them because they would They were beloved and
Speaker 1: people were loyal to him and the kid Alberto takes
Speaker 1: offense to this. He's like, what do you think, you know,
Speaker 1: like critiquing the way I'm doing things, and then he
Speaker 1: realizes that like the penguin is talking about how he
Speaker 1: wants to be a leader.
Speaker 2: And I am, and how he wants to be remembered.
Speaker 1: Now Alberto, high on drops and drunk, is starts mocking
Speaker 1: the penguin like you fucking you know, get even a cripple, Yeah,
Speaker 1: forget it. So the penguin just shoots him dead and
Speaker 1: then I love it immediately, just like you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's happy for about forty five seconds. You're very satisfied
Speaker 1: with himself. And then he realizes I just killed the boss,
Speaker 1: Like I just killed the new boss. This is a problem, right,
Speaker 1: So we get the title card, which is great, and
Speaker 1: then we come back and the penguin is he's wrapped
Speaker 1: the body up and he's trying to figure out, like
Speaker 1: how am I gonna dispose his body? Unlocks Alberta's phone,
Speaker 1: so you get more information about the drug deal, you know,
Speaker 1: using his dead face and puts it up to him.
Speaker 2: Love how people do that in shows. Now, it's like
Speaker 2: so grimmest way of whatever. That thing is cool because
Speaker 2: I don't have it where you put your face on
Speaker 2: the thing. But yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 1: So he goes outside. When he goes outside, he finds
Speaker 1: these kids breaking into his his plum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his purple Mazarati, which first of all, Matt reads,
Speaker 2: this is not grounded, but that is an Italian car.
Speaker 1: I gotta get an Italian car, you know.
Speaker 2: I wi what the penguin would drive. And I love
Speaker 2: the little not his his costume colors. Also, he is
Speaker 2: going to regret this car so much because believe that
Speaker 2: everybody knows that as Oswald's car throughout the show and
Speaker 2: it is going to get him in so much trouble.
Speaker 1: Well, no, he's got the fulvo too, we'll get so,
Speaker 1: you know, the penguin immediately shooting the kids and then
Speaker 1: he catches one of them, Victor Victor Aligar, and the
Speaker 1: kid is obviously terrified, and the penguin is like, basically,
Speaker 1: enlist this kid with a gun to his head, but
Speaker 1: you know, not literally but like figuredly most of the time.
Speaker 1: Most of the time, this kid is in fear of
Speaker 1: his life. Enlists this kid in helping him get rid
Speaker 1: of Alberto's body. So he makes Victor drive him around
Speaker 1: to wherever he's going to dispose the body. Meanwhile, he's
Speaker 1: going through Alberto's and he finds the date no information,
Speaker 1: but just like literally a calendaring a playment that says
Speaker 1: like drugs.
Speaker 2: He's like drugs at the Gotham Shipyards. Drugs.
Speaker 1: So okay, now he's got some information. Meanwhile, Oswald is
Speaker 1: like telling the kid he because he looked at the
Speaker 1: kid's license, he knows they're from the same neighborhood basically,
Speaker 1: and so he's talking about the old neighborhood when he
Speaker 1: was growing up in this place.
Speaker 2: He goes.
Speaker 1: They go to this ice cream shopp he used to
Speaker 1: go go to it. You ever get the slushy from
Speaker 1: the ice cream ship? You ether get the slushy? Would
Speaker 1: you ever get the different flavors? You gotta mix up
Speaker 1: the flavors, right that, you gotta mix it.
Speaker 2: Look, but this is very specific because he says a
Speaker 2: slush puppy, which I feel like people don't really understand.
Speaker 2: In England, we don't have a sluppy. We don't have
Speaker 2: a slushy. We just have slush puppies. So I know
Speaker 2: that someone English was writing this because that is slush
Speaker 2: puppies in America, especially on the East Coast. But for
Speaker 2: this specifically be a slush puppy, that's a really specific experience.
Speaker 2: But I was happy to hear this slushpuppy reference. And
Speaker 2: it is true that red and blue together does make
Speaker 2: a nice play of us. I agree with those.
Speaker 1: I think this episode was written by Was it written
Speaker 1: by the showrunner Laura?
Speaker 2: I think it was.
Speaker 1: So the kid kind of like very very fractionally loosens up,
Speaker 1: although he's obviously very very afraid. They go to the
Speaker 1: red light district where people know Vicor I let.
Speaker 4: Me die I'll aloud you a lot, don't think, don't
Speaker 4: get it twisted.
Speaker 2: Ozzie's down here.
Speaker 1: A lot, and Victor then notices the that the Ozzie's
Speaker 1: unique gait is the result of braces and a kind
Speaker 1: of malformed foot which Oz needs braces to kind of
Speaker 1: help him walk, and so he's got that very sideways
Speaker 1: kind of wabble wabba walk. He goes to see Eve,
Speaker 1: who is a madam, to set up an alibi in
Speaker 1: case any of the gang one's ask He's like, listen,
Speaker 1: I was I was with you, I was with you, right,
Speaker 1: So therefore he can't get fingered for Alberta's murdered.
Speaker 2: Wonderful acting here, Oh there's you learn so much here.
Speaker 1: And it's literally like the briefest scene, and you realize
Speaker 1: that the penguin has probably legitimate feelings for Eve because
Speaker 1: as you know, she's closing the door to say and
Speaker 1: saying goodbye to him, he's kind of like peering around,
Speaker 1: looking around to see if anybody's there, like he's it's
Speaker 1: clear that he has like legitimate feelings for her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's played by she's played by Calm and
Speaker 2: a Djogo and who and she's just so great, like
Speaker 2: the little intimacies that they put across with this kind
Speaker 2: of open door segment, and it's clear that she's not
Speaker 2: agreeing to be his alibi because she's scared of him.
Speaker 2: She's doing it she cares about him, or there's some
Speaker 2: kind of okay. Actually interestingly as well, her name is
Speaker 2: Eve Carlo. So is this like a clay face notd
Speaker 2: what do we think? I think it is a clay face.
Speaker 2: I think there's something interesting there. Yeah, because it's ka
Speaker 2: R l O. It's like very specific, so nice little
Speaker 2: not that to a to a classic Batman villain.
Speaker 1: So they stop for sandwiches Penguin and Vic and then
Speaker 1: they carry the corpse to like a very very ruined
Speaker 1: part of the city and they put it in the
Speaker 1: trunk of a Cadillac, like a nineties Cadillac, and Penguin
Speaker 1: then takes the ring off of Alberto's finger, which is
Speaker 1: like the.
Speaker 2: It used to be Carmine's ring. It's the family ring.
Speaker 2: If you're the boss, you wear it.
Speaker 1: And he got it from the Maronis.
Speaker 2: He stole Carmin and Falcony stole it from sal as
Speaker 2: a kind of fuck you before he got put in prison, right.
Speaker 1: And so he tells and then he's like, so the
Speaker 1: penguins they shut the trunk, and the peng was like, hey, Vic,
Speaker 1: you gotta see the sunrise. Look pretty good? Turn around,
Speaker 1: take a look at that. And it's like a you know,
Speaker 1: Vic is uh vickas red and of mice and men.
Speaker 1: He knows. So he's like, hey, hey, come on and
Speaker 1: you see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can help you.
Speaker 1: I can help you out. And so the Penguin's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we give you a try.
Speaker 3: Give you a try.
Speaker 1: Kid on a on a probationary basis, will give you
Speaker 1: a try. They go to the penguin's apartment. Uh Vickxy's
Speaker 1: a family photo, a very interesting family photo in the
Speaker 1: in the penguin's apartment, it's like three young kids. And
Speaker 1: the penguin goes into his bedroom behind like these fucking
Speaker 1: steel pod.
Speaker 2: Doors, like a crazy safe door. It's so over the
Speaker 2: top and I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. He puts the ring in the box
Speaker 1: and then we get to see him take off the
Speaker 1: braces on his feet. It's clear that his condition is
Speaker 1: quite painful. Vic drives Penguin to his drops stash house. Now,
Speaker 1: after the flood, a lot of the drug supply of
Speaker 1: Drops got flooded, so Penguin's gang is busy like basically
Speaker 1: cleaning the drops so that they don't waste all the
Speaker 1: supply and that they could use it then to sell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like the idea that there's a great
Speaker 2: moment where because the thing is about this show that
Speaker 2: I think is so good and why I think the
Speaker 2: reviews are coming out good and why I think it's
Speaker 2: enjoyable to watch is they write Oswald as a character
Speaker 2: that you can root for, not because he's a good person,
Speaker 2: because he's always getting into a scrape, right, but they
Speaker 2: give you these moments to remind you he's a terrible person,
Speaker 2: like he literally says, like you know, they're like, well,
Speaker 2: a lot of the drops are ruined, that they're infected.
Speaker 1: The gang brings in an injured member while they're there,
Speaker 1: and it's clear that this kind of Falcony marony rivalry
Speaker 1: is beginning to heat up. Penguin gets a phone call
Speaker 1: from the Falcony shot callers and he has to go
Speaker 1: to a meeting outside of town. Vic wonders if it
Speaker 1: means they know that he killed Alberto, and Penguin says, like,
Speaker 1: listen and he's telling Vick a lot. He's like, listen,
Speaker 1: right now, nobody really knows how ambitious I am, how
Speaker 1: smart I am. I play it like I'm just a
Speaker 1: quite like a yes man. And then when I leave,
Speaker 1: I do my own thing. They go up to this mansion.
Speaker 1: It's up in Bristol Township and it's fucking gorgeous. Now
Speaker 1: the penguin when he gets out again this wonderful writing
Speaker 1: and acting where the penguin gets out and it's clear
Speaker 1: he's worried that he's out of there, but he also
Speaker 1: is covering it up with like jokes, kid, in case
Speaker 1: I don't come out, Yeah, I'm coming out. What are
Speaker 1: you talking about? YEA penguin sits with Johnny vet who's
Speaker 1: kind of like the underboss with Alberto, who knows where
Speaker 1: Alberto is. So Johnny Betty is kind of like the
Speaker 1: guy vd's guy Muos tells penguin, there's so many guys
Speaker 1: and there's so many guys. He tells a penguin that, listen,
Speaker 1: your little drop operation that we just saw, we're moving it.
Speaker 1: We're taking it from you, we're moving it out of
Speaker 1: your territory, and we're giving it this so shut it down,
Speaker 1: shut it down, And Penguin's like, what the fuck you know,
Speaker 1: we're first of all, we're doing great work, like scavenging
Speaker 1: these these distressed drops that we're going to be able
Speaker 1: to sell, like seventy percent of this stuff is going
Speaker 1: to be sellable. And VID says like, shut up, you're
Speaker 1: not the boss. The last thing we need is heat
Speaker 1: from the cops or a gang war with the with
Speaker 1: the Maronis. Now get the fuck out. And so then
Speaker 1: the penguin says, well, I'm going to make my pitch
Speaker 1: with this this thing I heard from Alberty says, hey,
Speaker 1: I've got a deal that you know, it's kind of
Speaker 1: very uh, you know, under the table right now. It's
Speaker 1: preliminary but promising. It's this experimental drug, the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and you know, no risk from you guys, like, I'll
Speaker 1: take all the risk, but yeah. Sophia Carmine Falcone's daughter
Speaker 1: recently released from Arkham because of a murder spree. She
Speaker 1: apparently went on he's listening and she asks the penguin
Speaker 1: straight out in front of VD and Melos, like do
Speaker 1: you know where Alberto is? And Vd's like, hey, Sophia,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Get out of here Oz, and
Speaker 1: he gives Oz forty eight hours to figure out if
Speaker 1: his drug deal is anything. Sofia comes out of the
Speaker 1: house and asks the penguin again, where's Alberto? And penguinsays, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Alberto's the boss. Now, he's got a lot
Speaker 1: of meetings, he's doing stuff. You know, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about. Sofia's like, well, let's get lunch right now
Speaker 1: and just catch up. Okay. So they go to this
Speaker 1: very hoity toy restaurant and Sofia is eating like she
Speaker 1: hasn't seen food.
Speaker 2: Dude. It's this is such a good character bit that
Speaker 2: they do with that. Well, like she's been an kham
Speaker 2: she ain't a nice food for a long time.
Speaker 1: The wonderful Kristin Migliatti.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love Kristin Milioti so much. They were so
Speaker 2: lucky to get her for this role. She's so fucking
Speaker 2: good and I love how she is just shoveling with
Speaker 2: her hands. She's just shoving this food and Martini's it's
Speaker 2: so good, and she's like, give me another one. You know,
Speaker 2: she doesn't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: Now. The other customers are nervous because you know they
Speaker 1: are clearly in the presence of the famously psychotic killer
Speaker 1: named the Hangman, who we don't quite know what her
Speaker 1: backstory was and how it comports with the Hangman's backstort.
Speaker 1: But the Hangman was like a cop killer.
Speaker 2: Well from from the comics, which we all get into later,
Speaker 2: there is some interesting crossover here that we can talk about,
Speaker 2: and it tells us something about when this is kind
Speaker 2: of set. But yeah, they are. They are definitely perceiving
Speaker 2: her as if she is a terrifying threat and she'd
Speaker 2: cavo she or she wants to knows where's her brother?
Speaker 1: She says she doesn't blame the Penguin for her father's death.
Speaker 1: And she says that, you know, last I heard from
Speaker 1: my brother he was going to your club. Uh. And
Speaker 1: she says, also, here's an interesting thing. Alberto was working
Speaker 1: on a drug deal. It sounds very similar to the
Speaker 1: one you pitched with me, So how do you know
Speaker 1: about it? And then Penguin once again is slippery Penguin guy.
Speaker 2: He's so good at this.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, whoa that that Alberto? He's done it again.
Speaker 1: He didn't tell me about you either?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and also as well, like I think there's
Speaker 2: something really interesting here because it's clear that even though
Speaker 2: Alberto is the kind of wasteman like of the family,
Speaker 2: he's not doing anything. He's a drop addict, he is
Speaker 2: not trustworthy. It's clear that him and Sofia have like
Speaker 2: a very deep connection, and that by killing him, Penguin
Speaker 2: has obviously put himself on like a collision course with her.
Speaker 1: She she clearly loved her brother, and she talks about it,
Speaker 1: and she basically says, listen.
Speaker 2: When I was in Arkham, who came to see me?
Speaker 1: Him? That's it. Every week he came to see me.
Speaker 1: And then Pengoin's like, well, you know you might not
Speaker 1: know listen, your brother because you were incarcerated for vicious,
Speaker 1: vicious murders. Your brother's a drug addict. He's on drops,
Speaker 1: so he might be able to dropbender right now. You know,
Speaker 1: he's on the whole thing, gambling, drops, sex, the whole thing.
Speaker 2: All of it, everything bad that could be taken him
Speaker 2: out of action.
Speaker 1: He's there and he says, in any way, I wasn't
Speaker 1: even at my club yesterday. I was with Eve, all right,
Speaker 1: my girlfriend. And Sophia is still suspicious, but she's a
Speaker 1: little thrown off now and she tells Oz that listen,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Oz. Nobody else sees it, but
Speaker 1: I see that you're You're a capable, smart, ambitious guy.
Speaker 2: She's like, everyone else underestimates here, that's right me, And
Speaker 2: I like, oh, that's so scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So now OZ is very very concerned, and we're
Speaker 1: concerned here as well, that they might shut us down
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Speaker 2: And we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back. Oz and Vic take the train, which looks
Speaker 1: like either the F or the B or the maybe
Speaker 1: the Q train uh in New York City out to
Speaker 1: the suburbs, not the suburbs, but the exerps. And they
Speaker 1: go to this kind of train station. They get an Evolvo,
Speaker 1: a battery up like late eighties Volvo, and they go
Speaker 1: to a house and I was like, I've never taken
Speaker 1: anybody here before, so yeah, take his shoes off the thing,
Speaker 1: let's be quiet. And it's his mom's house and he
Speaker 1: gives her one of those necklaces that he got from
Speaker 1: the safe and he grabs like a big duffel bag
Speaker 1: of cash and he tells mom, we're getting out of
Speaker 1: town right now, because he's concerned that Sophia is owed
Speaker 1: to him. He also we realize that his mom is
Speaker 1: on medication for something dementia, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like she's kind of a bit out
Speaker 2: of it. She doesn't necessarily know what's going on. She
Speaker 2: hasn't necessarily been taken up pills.
Speaker 1: So he makes her take her pills, which he realizes
Speaker 1: she hasn't taken, and he introduces Vic, saying, this is
Speaker 1: a kid that's gonna help me out. Mom knows her son,
Speaker 1: and she's like, you're not just here to give me
Speaker 1: a necklace and say we're going at getting out of town.
Speaker 1: Something's happened. And he's like, yeah, I I gotta go
Speaker 1: on the run. I killed Alberto. She's like, oh my boy,
Speaker 1: I love you so much. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1: You kill them, this, this, and now, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? You're gonna run like a pussy? Yeah, a pussy.
Speaker 2: I know. No. I have to say this is like,
Speaker 2: this is legit, like another bit of unbelievable character work,
Speaker 2: because in this moment you learn so much. It's clear
Speaker 2: that she's probably been abusive. It's clear that she's probably deeply,
Speaker 2: deeply overinvolved in her son's life in a way that
Speaker 2: could even be deemed as like creepy. It's clear that
Speaker 2: he loves her a lot and everything he does for her,
Speaker 2: everything he does is kind of under this guise of
Speaker 2: being for her. We also get this mention of his brothers.
Speaker 2: Where are they? We don't know? And I love so
Speaker 2: much that we learn in this moment kind of everything
Speaker 2: about him. Because he is ready to run smart choice
Speaker 2: should have done it, but she managed to essentially nag
Speaker 2: him into not doing it. She's like, don't be a pussy.
Speaker 2: She's like, everything that you have ever done is leading
Speaker 2: up to this, and now you can take it. Like
Speaker 2: you've done the thing you need to do and you
Speaker 2: can take the city. And also she wants a better life.
Speaker 2: She's living in some tiny little house, like it looks
Speaker 2: you know, it's classic movie. I was gonna say, I
Speaker 2: was gonna say, this is my favorite thing. Is like
Speaker 2: every time you see a house and they're like this
Speaker 2: is where a poor person lives, I'm like, this house.
Speaker 1: Looks pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks pretty good to me. So she's living
Speaker 2: in a normal person house, but she wants more. She's like,
Speaker 2: I got it. We gotta get what we deserve. You know,
Speaker 2: you can tell she's dreaming of that big kind of
Speaker 2: McMansion life that they're living. She wants to be living
Speaker 2: in in Long Island, she wants to be living in Montalk.
Speaker 2: You know, she's she's got plans. And the funniest thing
Speaker 2: is Vick is just watching it all. Yeah, He's like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, this is crazy.
Speaker 1: Bro. Later, the Penguin and visit on the couch and
Speaker 1: they watcha a worth the iconic worthing nineteen Gilda. Oz
Speaker 1: then says, you know, as they're driving back to the
Speaker 1: trade stations, like, Vicka, you up to this what we
Speaker 1: need to do? Like it's clear that he shared a
Speaker 1: plan with Vic, which we don't. You don't really realize
Speaker 1: until the end that in the intervening time between them
Speaker 1: watching Gilda and when we catch back up with them here.
Speaker 2: They've been doing a lot of schemen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oz is laid out a plan. Vick is like,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Then Penguin is like, listen, this is
Speaker 1: you know. It gives him the big game speech, and
Speaker 1: Vick is like, okay, you can count on me. So
Speaker 1: the Penguin says, okay, take some time off. He take
Speaker 1: the Volvo but keep your phone on because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need you. Oz then goes to Blackgate to visit sal Maroni.
Speaker 2: Another fantastic scene, like great fantastic man, Colin, I feel
Speaker 2: like one in the Batman movie. I was sure the
Speaker 2: whole time. I was, like, the reason that I enjoy
Speaker 2: Colin Farrell so much, and this is because he's not
Speaker 2: really in the movie alone, but when you see him,
Speaker 2: he's so impactful, but it would be too obvious in
Speaker 2: the suit when if you watched him for too long incorrect.
Speaker 2: I think he loses himself and this this.
Speaker 1: Suit does you get.
Speaker 2: You forget it's him, and in this scene specifically where
Speaker 2: it's him versus Clancy Brown's Salvator Maroney, who just fucking
Speaker 2: hates him so much, and there is just so much
Speaker 2: seething fury that Oz would even dean to step into
Speaker 2: Blackgate and kind of talk to him. It's so good.
Speaker 1: So let me just first say that Gotham, you need
Speaker 1: to like record all convers between mob figures, organized crime
Speaker 1: figures and whoever visits him, because this is fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: Let them meeted person with nobody around and no recording.
Speaker 2: You know, the implication is that like it's very corrupt
Speaker 2: at Blackgate. And the difference, if you're wondering, so the
Speaker 2: difference between Blackgate and ARC is that Blackgate was introduced
Speaker 2: in like the nineties and Detective Comics six twenty nine,
Speaker 2: and it's for non insane criminals. That's the criminal. This
Speaker 2: is just like, this is just your standard criminal. And
Speaker 2: the black Bes was like one of the other families
Speaker 2: in Arkham. So yeah, ain't Gotham. So yeah, this is
Speaker 2: a very funny. But you're so right, like why are
Speaker 2: they not recording this? Like, guys, I know that the
Speaker 2: I know they're probably all under Sal's thumb.
Speaker 1: You can put everybody away forever.
Speaker 2: Bit just like one microphone underneath like put one microphone
Speaker 2: underneath the table, my guys.
Speaker 1: So as pitches his services to the Maroney family against
Speaker 1: the Falconies, he says, listen, here's some info for you.
Speaker 1: Falconi are gonna move my drop business out of the city,
Speaker 1: and he says, but I'll tell you what. We got
Speaker 1: a couple of days, I will tell you where the
Speaker 1: factory is. You take it right, I'll pretend like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, there we've been raided by the Ronis. Oh oh,
Speaker 1: this is a great opportunity for you to take revenge
Speaker 1: is like, now you crossed me too many times.
Speaker 2: He's like, bro, do you remember all these times that
Speaker 2: you're like fucking heeled on me and stop me in
Speaker 2: the bag and like betrayed me. Like I'm fucking sick
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 1: I'm sick of you. I don't trust you. And the
Speaker 1: PEngs like but you sleep on it, and the Maronie's like,
Speaker 1: fuck off, just get the fuck out of here. But
Speaker 1: then I almost forget and he goes into his pocket
Speaker 1: and he takes out the ring that Fulcny took from Maroni,
Speaker 1: and Maroney's like, oh my god. He's like, clearly what
Speaker 1: the moved in some way to get the ring back.
Speaker 1: So Oz is then driving around. He's driving back to
Speaker 1: wherever he's gonna. He's going back to his uh I
Speaker 1: think his club, and he's calling VIC but he's it
Speaker 1: goes straight to voicemail, which is a problem. And then
Speaker 1: as he pulls up in front of his club, he
Speaker 1: sees Sophia and her Hood's waiting for him the Falcony
Speaker 1: Hoods car chase. He's you know, racing away from them.
Speaker 2: In his cop car, which is how Sophia catches him.
Speaker 1: Then animal Vic, still not picking up the penguin, does
Speaker 1: this very cute kind of like uh pump fake maneuver
Speaker 1: where he pulls up in front of like a FEMA
Speaker 1: camp and then leaves the door the driver's side door
Speaker 1: open like he fled on foot, but really he was
Speaker 1: hiding in the trunk. And when he gets out, one
Speaker 1: of the falcony hoods comes and tries to stop him,
Speaker 1: but he kills the guy. But then Sophia's guys eventually
Speaker 1: get a hold of him. They take him back upstate
Speaker 1: to the mansion and they begin to torture him in
Speaker 1: the greenhouse. They got a strip nude and this is
Speaker 1: where you get a great look at the floor back.
Speaker 1: This suit is amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also like this guy higher and ever you
Speaker 2: understand why call it farrelheighten to be in that suit?
Speaker 2: I understand, my friend, It's fine. Also, they have him
Speaker 2: like they are gone. You know, he's in the He's
Speaker 2: in the greenhouse of death. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 2: Like this is one of those scenes like you're watching
Speaker 2: Sore and you know the trap is about to come out,
Speaker 2: like you know you're going to see some bad stuff.
Speaker 2: So the fact that Oswald manages to even like not
Speaker 2: just pass out from fear tells you a lot about him.
Speaker 1: So they're torturing him. She wants to know what Alberto is.
Speaker 1: She's telling him how much he loves her brother, how
Speaker 1: he was the only one that came to see her,
Speaker 1: and then she produces one of the kids that try
Speaker 1: to as well, it's very interesting you say you weren't
Speaker 1: at your club because you were shooting at these kids
Speaker 1: in back of your club on the very night that
Speaker 1: my brother disappeared. So what about that? Is this kid lying?
Speaker 1: And Penguins like, yeah, the kid's fucking lying. So she
Speaker 1: shoots the kid.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so.
Speaker 1: And this is a great is like thrilled is like
Speaker 1: you could see the Hangman energy ming out of her.
Speaker 2: And also as well, this is a great thing to
Speaker 2: show just to Ozz because he is willing to have
Speaker 2: an innocent kid just killed. Yeah, it means he can
Speaker 2: get out of it. And this is a very brutal
Speaker 2: moment and it kind of foreshadows where the show is
Speaker 2: going to go.
Speaker 1: So then they really step up the torture. They take
Speaker 1: like a very sharp like cable like a wire, and
Speaker 1: they put it under his armpit and they're beginning to
Speaker 1: cut his arm off, and again all the time asking
Speaker 1: where is my brother? And then there's a car crash outside.
Speaker 1: You go out there and you see that it's the
Speaker 1: caddy they put Alberto in. Sofia goes. She sees there's
Speaker 1: no driver. There's like a cinder block on the accelerator,
Speaker 1: and she looks in the trunk and there's Alberto and
Speaker 1: this pinky with the ring is cut off. And so
Speaker 1: it's clear now the Maroney's are going to get the
Speaker 1: blame for this, and it says payback.
Speaker 2: On the inside of the He's got an alibi because
Speaker 2: you're about to chop his arm off, that's right.
Speaker 1: So so they let the They let Oz go and
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, where with Oz and Vic at
Speaker 1: their old neighborhood getting slushies from this slushies and we
Speaker 1: realized this was all his plan. He had set this
Speaker 1: whole thing up to begin the gang war between the
Speaker 1: and the Maronis. And he's celebrating with Vic over these
Speaker 1: slushies and he's asking Vic, like, well, now, something, you
Speaker 1: only cut off the pinky, he said, were he was
Speaker 1: gonna cut off the head And Vick is like basically
Speaker 1: just says that couldn't. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: He's my favorite thing. My favorite thing is he's like
Speaker 2: I was like, I was thinking, like should I start
Speaker 2: the frump? And then I was worried I'd get stuck
Speaker 2: on the track here. But then if I started the
Speaker 2: back like I would get like stuck on the spine.
Speaker 2: And As is looking at him like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: are you talking about? But you can tell now that
Speaker 2: there is a this is a new little duo, like
Speaker 2: for now.
Speaker 1: First Henchi Henchy number one.
Speaker 2: Fast, Henchy number one. It's Vic And obviously now the
Speaker 2: Maronis will get blamed, so on motion.
Speaker 1: That's right, Maroney's gonna be where in the ring around Blackgate,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's very clear that this gang war is
Speaker 1: going to pop off. And Oz tells Vic, listen this
Speaker 1: new drug thing. I want you in with me. And
Speaker 1: then and then they mix the flavors. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: You mix the flavors. Slushy is good. And we're on
Speaker 1: to episode two. Well, this is a this is a
Speaker 1: really fun show.
Speaker 2: I'm this is a truly fantastic opening episode, Like and
Speaker 2: look we are we are obviously the audience for this
Speaker 2: kind of stuff you if you are listening to this.
Speaker 2: But I will say I believe this is the kind
Speaker 2: of show you can show someone who doesn't know Batman,
Speaker 2: who doesn't care about these movies, and who can find
Speaker 2: something to love it. It currently stands at ninety three
Speaker 2: percent on Rotten Tomatoes, and I think that that is
Speaker 2: a very good representation of the fact that a lot
Speaker 2: of people, whether you're from The Evening Standard or Empire
Speaker 2: Magazin or Indie Wire, have found something in this that
Speaker 2: is deeply worthwhile and deeply transformative. That's really the word
Speaker 2: that all of these reviews say, you know this is
Speaker 2: I mean, this is from the Evening Standard. It says
Speaker 2: this is a five star series that Mafia film fans
Speaker 2: will adore. It's very much an Italian American gangster penguin,
Speaker 2: with Farrell finding the sweetest of evil spots between Tony
Speaker 2: soprano and de Niro's vo Corleone. So I mean that's
Speaker 2: it's pretty big compliments. I like this one from Empire
Speaker 2: to where they say a spinoff that makes this return
Speaker 2: to Gotham feel both necessary and earned. Totally agree that's
Speaker 2: the thing. This makes you one. I love the world
Speaker 2: of the Batman. I mean, in rewatching it, Jason, we
Speaker 2: were both kind of struck, Like you texted me and
Speaker 2: you were like, this movie is underrated, and I was like,
Speaker 2: it is underrated because even though we're talking about how
Speaker 2: like it came out and we were like, this is great,
Speaker 2: we love it, and a lot of people were like
Speaker 2: this is great, and it made a ton of money.
Speaker 2: But because of the world and the pandemic and all
Speaker 2: these other things and the stripes, it almost feels like
Speaker 2: it came and it went. But it actually really like
Speaker 2: a deeply fantastic movie, and I'm very excited to see
Speaker 2: it expand into this new format where hopefully it will
Speaker 2: get people to revisit that film and see how great
Speaker 2: it was. And I also like, I saw James Gunn today.
Speaker 2: He was sharing good reviews of the show even though
Speaker 2: it's in this elseworld's kind of space, not in the
Speaker 2: you know what, we're calling the gun averse. So I'm
Speaker 2: just really happy. I thought this first episode is so good,
Speaker 2: and I will say positive something. You know, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna obviously, I'm not going to say anything other than
Speaker 2: this about it, but I will say the second episode
Speaker 2: is also better. We were lucky enough to watch it.
Speaker 2: So for me, I was just like unbelievable, Like it
Speaker 2: just worked on every level. The vibe, the tone, Sophia
Speaker 2: Falcone's outfits stunning, immaculate. Yeah, it's it's so so good.
Speaker 1: Well up next, we're going to go to the comics corner. Oh,
Speaker 1: we're going to go in the comics corner to talk
Speaker 1: about some of the inspiration that we see maybe for
Speaker 1: the Penguin, and then in the comic storylines of where
Speaker 1: this might take place.
Speaker 2: Where does it take place?
Speaker 1: Welcome to Comics Corner. Were sitting. We're sitting in the
Speaker 1: flooded confines of Comics Quarter as the floodwaters from the
Speaker 1: Riddler attack are slowly drained away, and we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about like where when in comics continuity and from
Speaker 1: what comics the Penguin might take its inspiration. Rosie, what
Speaker 1: are you seeing in this show?
Speaker 2: Okay? So, I think the biggest thing is that when
Speaker 2: we first watched, when we first watched the Batman, which
Speaker 2: was kind of set in this almost like year two
Speaker 2: era is what we call it. That's what Matt Reeves
Speaker 2: was calling it. It's kind of Batman's been in Gotham,
Speaker 2: but he's not fully established. A lot of people definitely
Speaker 2: saw the potential for this series, especially as a crime series,
Speaker 2: to adapt The Long Halloween by Jeff Lobe and Tim Sale,
Speaker 2: which is where we first met the wider Falcone family,
Speaker 2: like Sophia and Alberto and in that really great comic.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to give you a spoiler warning if
Speaker 2: you want to go and read it without a spoiler,
Speaker 2: because it really is great. But it's actually revealed that
Speaker 2: the identity of the Holiday killer who kills people around holidays,
Speaker 2: classic kind of Batman Shenanigans, it's actually Alberto Falcone, who
Speaker 2: was basically a mass murderer who's kind of been indiscriminately
Speaker 2: killing many, many people in Gotham under this guys. So interestingly,
Speaker 2: though we of me a version of Alberto here that's
Speaker 2: completely different. And the most interesting thing is that in
Speaker 2: the sequel to The Long Halloween, which is called Batman
Speaker 2: Dark Victory, which is kind of an underread story, we
Speaker 2: learn that Sophia is this serial killer known as the Hangman, who,
Speaker 2: as you know Jason pointed out, killed many members of
Speaker 2: the Gotham Police Department in this extraordinarily effective cop killer
Speaker 2: and very connected to kind of a Harvey Dent two
Speaker 2: face storyline, and interestingly, it is very It was very
Speaker 2: shocking to me, Like I already pitched an article where
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute, you're coming in after
Speaker 2: Dark Victory. You're essentially like coming in post the two
Speaker 2: biggest storylines. And if you're looking at the comment but Kenon,
Speaker 2: you would say, well, so you're telling me those have
Speaker 2: already happened, Like Long Halloween's already clear.
Speaker 1: That that is not the case.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the case. By This is my
Speaker 2: this is my gut check on what they're gonna do,
Speaker 2: and I've only this at this point. I've only seen
Speaker 2: the first two episodes, so this is my guess. I
Speaker 2: think where this is going is that they're going to
Speaker 2: combine the Long Halloween murders and the Hangman murders, and
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some kind of thing where either Sophia
Speaker 2: took the fall for a male member of her family,
Speaker 2: or that she was in line with one of the
Speaker 2: Falconies and they were both doing the killings. I think
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some kind of combined version of it.
Speaker 2: But it was very interesting to me that they chose
Speaker 2: to set it after those two big comic book storylines.
Speaker 2: And also I think it's a really cool way to
Speaker 2: basically say, hey, we're going to do our own thing,
Speaker 2: which is what Matt Reeves loves to do, even though
Speaker 2: he does cherry pick moments from the comics. So yeah,
Speaker 2: we're looking at a kind of dark Victory esque era.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought this was so interesting, especially just
Speaker 2: because the Long Halloween is so kind of iconic. It
Speaker 2: would have been interesting. And obviously one of the safest
Speaker 2: bets on how to get people hooked into a TV
Speaker 2: show is to do a murder mystery, So I think
Speaker 2: that changing it from that and giving us this perspective
Speaker 2: of Oswald trying to kind of get out of these scrapes,
Speaker 2: get out of these shenanigans that he puts himself into,
Speaker 2: is a really really interesting twist on what we were expecting.
Speaker 2: I also think as well that, yeah, it's interesting this
Speaker 2: is actually not the first time Sophia fl Cone's been
Speaker 2: on TV, because she was in Bottoms Yeah, portrayed by
Speaker 2: Crystal Reid, who would later go on to play Abby
Speaker 2: in Swamp Thing, one of my favorite shows. Love to
Speaker 2: bring that up, But yeah, I think Kristin Melotti is
Speaker 2: fantastic casting, and I'm very excited to see kind of
Speaker 2: where they go with this and whether or not we're
Speaker 2: going to see more kind of comic book influences coming in. Obviously,
Speaker 2: we've got, you know, Carlo, We've got these kind of
Speaker 2: hints and the Carlo Callback's actually really interesting because I
Speaker 2: was saying this in pre pro but I went to
Speaker 2: a screening of The Batman on the Warner Brothers lot
Speaker 2: a few years ago with Rob Pattinson with Matt Reeves,
Speaker 2: and people were saying like, what would you do next?
Speaker 2: Like which villains would you love to do? And Matt
Speaker 2: was like, you know, we I don't know if we
Speaker 2: could do Clayface. I think it would be like two
Speaker 2: out there, it's not grounded enough. But I was thinking, like,
Speaker 2: I think there's a way you could do it, and
Speaker 2: I love to kind of see that nod to Clay Face.
Speaker 2: I think the idea of like a tortured actor who
Speaker 2: kind of has some kind of mutation or something, I
Speaker 2: believe he could do it. I just I think Matt
Speaker 2: Reeves has got such a pinpoint on the way that
Speaker 2: you balance like the humanity but also the fantastical nature
Speaker 2: of Gotham, and I think he's really showcasing that in here.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they do something where Carlo the Clayface
Speaker 1: in a kind of watchmenesque style, was like, was like
Speaker 1: a villain from an earlier generation.
Speaker 2: Wow, I think that would be so cool.
Speaker 1: Somehow either picks up the mantle or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be really interesting to see, definitely, especially
Speaker 2: because he is definitely we with Cape Crusader and everything
Speaker 2: that we saw, There's so much space there for doing
Speaker 2: something in that kind of fourties golden age of Hollywood. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just really really exciting to kind of see where they're
Speaker 2: going to go with this. And I also love the
Speaker 2: idea that they believe in this enough at Warner Brothers
Speaker 2: that they are calling it. I believe they gave it
Speaker 2: its own name, like the Batman Epic Crime Universe or something,
Speaker 2: and you know what, I'm like, Sure didn't need to
Speaker 2: have the word epic in it, Probably not, but I
Speaker 2: love that they have named it, which is usually in
Speaker 2: corporate terms, a promising thing for whether or not we'll
Speaker 2: see the future of these characters explored in different spaces.
Speaker 1: I wonder also because of what we've seen so far
Speaker 1: in this season. If they're setting up the sequel to
Speaker 1: The Batman to be a.
Speaker 2: Scarecrow story, I would be very interested to see that.
Speaker 2: I also think that we are getting a look at
Speaker 2: kind of like how Penguin can become that threat to Batman,
Speaker 2: because obviously Batman has infinite resources, he's super rich. He's
Speaker 2: also absolutely insane and will put himself in danger. And
Speaker 2: there's definitely an interesting parallel with what we've seen of
Speaker 2: oz Of, like Oswell put himself to the point where
Speaker 2: he is getting his own arm chopped off if it
Speaker 2: means he can get himself out of the frame. And
Speaker 2: with Bruce, we saw that this Bruce will throw himself
Speaker 2: off the top of a building and crash into a
Speaker 2: bus without necessarily knowing what he's going to do or
Speaker 2: how he's going to survive. So there's definitely some really
Speaker 2: interesting stuff going on there also as well. It does
Speaker 2: make sense I guess that they kind of went for
Speaker 2: the Long Halloween because that's where Carmine gets killed. And yeah,
Speaker 2: there's lots of places they could go, but I definitely
Speaker 2: think we could potentially see a scarecrow potentially, you know,
Speaker 2: see that exploration of Harvey Dent and see where that's
Speaker 2: gonna go. Also, I think we got a confirmation that basically,
Speaker 2: so the Batman movie began on Halloween, very long Halloween
Speaker 2: of them, and we had you know, Bruce doing his
Speaker 2: emo voice over about how Halloweens when the Freaks come out.
Speaker 2: This is going to take place about a week after that,
Speaker 2: And I think they were saying that the Batman two
Speaker 2: is going to take place in winter, and they said
Speaker 2: they weren't going to go for any Matt Reeves said
Speaker 2: he wasn't going to do like a Christmas Batman movie.
Speaker 2: Sad for me because I love a Christmas Batman movie
Speaker 2: like Batman Returns, but he did say it would be
Speaker 2: kind of set in that space as four turns into winter.
Speaker 2: So I'm also interested because you know winter, you think
Speaker 2: of Victor Freeze, you think of these spaces that it
Speaker 2: could go. So I'm very intrigued to see what they're
Speaker 2: doing with it. But also the that's a very wintery
Speaker 2: character Pertaps. By the end of this he will become
Speaker 2: that that criminal that we want to follow.
Speaker 1: On tomorrow's episode of Extra Vision, we will be talking
Speaker 1: Netflix animation and later this week Scott Pilgrim join us
Speaker 1: as we close out Animation Month. That's all for this episode.
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Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our
Speaker 1: supervising producer is a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen
Speaker 1: Laurent and Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez.
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