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Speaker 2: Mark, how are you I'm doing great, thank you.

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Speaker 3: What's he what's she announced? What's she doing different?

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Speaker 2: Nothing? Really? I mean this is this is packaging. It's

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Speaker 2: things worse. Uh. He's saying that there are you know, immigration,

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Speaker 2: very individual purposes, like somebody you need somebody to testify

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Speaker 2: let him in and then he goes home. They're using

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Speaker 3: Is that legal to stretch the definition of parole?

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Speaker 2: It's not. And there's a lawsuit that the State of

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Speaker 4: Do they really believe that or is that just the

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Speaker 4: If we have another year of this immigration level, these

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Speaker 4: Well, all right, Mark, items, it seems like the whole government,

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Speaker 1: All right, Mark, thank you very much for joining us today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all.

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Speaker 1: Mark Korean, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies

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Speaker 1: and the Biden administration announcing new border policies and as

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Speaker 1: Mark reads, it. It's just to try to make it

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Speaker 1: up on the John and Ken Show, it's about the homeless.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike Bonnet's replacement on the city council,

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Speaker 1: That's Eric Leonard NBC four. So let's take a closer

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but what does this tell you If a quarter

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Speaker 4: It does if you care. It does, even if all

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Speaker 1: It just jarred me because you know, whenever you hear

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Speaker 1: And not an aberration. Apparently in twenty twenty one it

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Speaker 1: tonillbyon Wow. Some real information came out today the Affidavid

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Speaker 1: the case right now, that Patel was on a murder

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Speaker 1: suicide omission.

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00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 4: All right, So now how did they determine that? Did

438
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Speaker 4: he admit to this or did the wife tell the story?

439
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 4: That good question to tell. Seemed all of a sudden

440
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Speaker 4: really excited as they were flying off the cliff.

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Speaker 1: That's going to have to come out in some sort

442
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Speaker 1: of Affidavid court document. Yeah, because, yeah, they fell two

443
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty to three hundred feet. A miraculous rescue because,

444
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: as one first responder said, no one usually survives that.

445
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: It's called Devil's slide, and there's been a lot of

446
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Speaker 1: accidents for people going over the side.

447
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 4: There so so many airbags pop out of this Tesla model.

448
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a why question is like curtains, airbag curtains

449
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: that pop over too. It may have done enough because

450
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Speaker 1: this thing kind of tumbled over. It did land upright.

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Speaker 3: I hadn't heard about this. This sounds really cool.

452
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Speaker 1: But anyway, what we were looking for is possibly sneak

453
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Speaker 1: peek at what is going on here. Neighbors said that

454
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Speaker 1: they were wonderful people. In fact, of course, just days

455
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Speaker 1: before they left on this trip, Patel delivered point setti

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Speaker 1: is to the neighbors. Okay, if a Christmas.

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Speaker 4: Case, okay, But all right, but I see that's where

458
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Speaker 4: I get suspicious. Guy in the neighborhood is going doorder

459
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Speaker 4: door handing out point setti as the average person opens

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Speaker 4: their Oh how lovely, you're such a wonderful man. Will well, Yes,

461
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Speaker 4: they're trying to throw everybody off so that when everyone

462
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Speaker 4: goes off the cliff they would never suspect him. Oh no,

463
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't suspect Himmy gave me a point sieta. It's

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Speaker 4: a point SETI SETI that's that wrong.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I know it looks.

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Speaker 4: Weird to see the spelling, but I mean, this is

467
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Speaker 4: what these guys do.

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Well, the Daily Mail got me today because the headline

470
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Speaker 1: was police came to the Patel's home nine times since

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. I'm like, oh, there, it is domestic disturbance.

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Speaker 3: But I thought the same thing.

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Speaker 1: No, No, they came to respond to burglary alarms or

474
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Speaker 1: suspicious persons reports.

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Speaker 4: Hmmm, Still that's a lot. Who's reporting that many suspicious persons?

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Speaker 4: That would imply that somebody in the house is nuts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How many times do your burglar alarms go off in

479
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Speaker 1: five years? Nine times?

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Speaker 2: Never?

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Speaker 1: All of them were described as false alarms.

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Speaker 3: Sol though.

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Speaker 1: Remember LAPD had a problem for a long time with

484
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Speaker 1: false alarms, and they're getting mad if they're going to

485
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Speaker 1: find people for the false alarm.

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Speaker 4: If they're not installed right, you can have a strong

487
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Speaker 4: wind set off the alarm.

488
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Speaker 1: I guess you could. You know, what about this suspicious persons?

489
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Speaker 1: There were two suspicious persons reports. See look marks gone

490
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Speaker 1: on arrival. The guy's obviously severely unhappy. Now was this

491
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Speaker 1: a spontaneous move? Like he and his wife are having

492
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Speaker 1: an argument and he decides, you know, I just can't

493
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Speaker 1: listen one more second of this and I'm going off

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Speaker 1: the cliff, right, Oh, I see spaneous decision of.

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Speaker 4: Spontaneous decision, and it's like Jesus would just stop as like, ah,

496
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Speaker 4: you know, the hell with it, and he goes off

497
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Speaker 4: the cliff. Or was he planning this for quite a while,

498
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Speaker 4: because you know, it's a different kind of psycho and.

499
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Speaker 3: He's just brooding and angry.

500
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Speaker 4: And because occasionally occasionally a guy takes out the family,

501
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 4: that happens.

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Speaker 1: Its interesting. One neighbor actually said, maybe this was just

503
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Speaker 1: a moment of insanity. He can't believe it. There were

504
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Speaker 1: great people, a great family. Everybody's puzzled because usually when

505
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Speaker 1: something like this happens is somebody that says, well, i'd

506
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Speaker 1: hear a lot of noise over there, arguments, yeah, that's

507
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Speaker 1: the thing. A great family goes as far as the

508
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Speaker 1: front door. You close the front door, you don't know

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Speaker 1: what the hell's going on inside. Because and is there

510
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Speaker 1: any relative of either side that has a story. If

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Speaker 1: she was having problems with him, wouldn't she have confided

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Speaker 1: in someone? Of course, she's alive, she's dead, she can

513
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Speaker 1: tell her story. Maybe she's off caught off guardier too,

514
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Speaker 1: that her husband was going to try to kill her

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Speaker 1: and their kids.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea that he got to explain to

517
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Speaker 3: the kids, why did daddy try to drive kill us?

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Speaker 3: Why did he drive off the cliff? What are you

519
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Speaker 3: going to say? I know that he's very sick.

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Speaker 1: Makes me think of that Orange County story from last year.

521
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: Remember the man that's accusing his wife of trying to

522
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Speaker 1: put poison in his lemonade.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yes, that's right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where that story is what happened to that,

525
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: But when we look closer at that one, that couple

526
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: were having real problems.

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Speaker 4: There's always real problems, either he had them internally or

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Speaker 4: they had it as a family or as a couple.

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Speaker 4: There always are, you know, and people who have the

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Speaker 4: worst interior lives put on the best show off. Maybe

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Speaker 4: like trailer trash people don't. But in the professional class,

532
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 4: like this guy, he's a doctor, he's a radiologist. You know,

533
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Speaker 4: they're handing out points setius. That's what you do, right

534
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Speaker 4: I So you think that was part of the thing.

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Speaker 4: Then if you're going with that theory, this wasn't spontaneous.

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Speaker 4: Right handing out the point edious to the neighbors would

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Speaker 4: be like I want to make everyone think I'm a

538
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Speaker 4: great guy. I don't trust people who do that I

539
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: really don't. It's like, you know, somebody's at the door

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00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 4: and he's got a point SETIA for me. It's like, Okay,

541
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Speaker 4: what's your angle? What are you looking for here? What

542
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: are you covering up? Why are you trying to divert attention?

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Speaker 3: I don't get it. I don't need a point sety.

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00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: I don't even know you.

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Speaker 1: All right, So apparently he's still hospitalized, but they're investigating

546
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Speaker 1: the case thoroughly. So since everybody's alive in this case,

547
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: we're probably gonna get some real answers before too long

548
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Speaker 1: as to why he tried to do this? All right,

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Speaker 1: got all the details on the affid David concerning the

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Speaker 1: Idaho college student murders and the man accused of those murders,

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Speaker 1: Brian Koberger. A lot was revealed, some of it pretty

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Speaker 1: concerning what they have against him, the DNA, cell phone

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Speaker 1: tracking the car, all that coming up in the three

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566
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Speaker 1: point thirty on the Johnny Ken Show.

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Speaker 3: I thought we already did. Did I miss it?

568
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: Maybe Joe Biden? Maybe we did? To New Year, everything

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Speaker 1: can be lost. A big story out of Mexico today.

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Speaker 1: Is it connected to Biden's upcoming visit to Mexico? Is

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Speaker 1: it a way of trying to clean things up a

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Speaker 1: little bit to make his because a lot of media

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Speaker 1: will be covering this. John's favorite, the Prime Minister of

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Speaker 1: Canada Trudeau will be there, the Mexican president. We call him.

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Speaker 4: Amlow that he's got four names. Yeah, Trudeau is like

576
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Speaker 4: Newsom's little brother.

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Speaker 3: He is the same guy.

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Speaker 1: Garcetti k Newsom right that layer of Minneapolis they're on,

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Speaker 1: sufferable Wianers. Well, they have once again captured the son

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Speaker 1: of El Choppo. People are probably familiar with El Chopo,

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Speaker 1: that was his nickname. That's the man that was in

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Speaker 1: charge of a major cartel that we eventually caught him.

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Speaker 1: Remember we caught him and then he escaped. They dug

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Speaker 1: a big tunnel, right, and he escaped from a prison.

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Speaker 1: But eventually they nammed him again and now he's being

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Speaker 1: held in the United States. The sun is a video Guzman,

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Speaker 1: and they captured him today on what was an unbelievable scene,

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Speaker 1: according to reports out of Mexico today that apparently Mexican

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Speaker 1: security forces captured him in a military operation on the

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Speaker 1: outskirts of the state capital of the Mexican state of Sinaloa.

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Speaker 1: By the way, is where the cartel name comes from.

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Speaker 1: And it says here that the cartel members went on

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Speaker 1: a rampage in revenge for the capture of their leader.

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Speaker 1: They burnt buses and trucks, and they staged shoe at

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Speaker 1: the airport. And there's actually pictures and video of people

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Speaker 1: on passenger planes at the airport ducking down because bullets

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Speaker 1: were hitting the windows.

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Speaker 3: Could you believe that?

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Speaker 1: God, They blocked entrances and exits to the city too.

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Speaker 1: I can't really be sure to pronounce as culia, can

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Speaker 1: That's the name of the capital of the Mexican state

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Speaker 1: of Sinaloa, where all this was going on, And this

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Speaker 1: was their way of saying, you better give them back.

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Speaker 1: I say that because I think we did do this story.

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Speaker 1: He was captured in twenty nineteen, but the government freedom

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Speaker 1: because cartel gunmen flooded the city, fought the soldiers and

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Speaker 1: threatened to attack their families at a military housing.

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Speaker 3: Project or a hundreds of them.

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Speaker 1: Mexican President Amblo said, all right, we're gonna let this

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Speaker 1: guy go. I don't want a blood baths.

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Speaker 3: See, this is the thing.

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Speaker 4: The drug cartel is more powerful than the military, more

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Speaker 4: powerful than law enforcement, more powerful than the whole Mexican government.

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Speaker 1: He just unleashes his army and everyone says, okay, we'll

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Speaker 1: give him back. Say are they going to do that again?

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Speaker 1: They're saying this time they won't. And the story in

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal says that that Amlo, his name

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Speaker 1: is Lopez Obrador, didn't like using the military to try to,

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Speaker 1: you know, the war on drugs. Instead, he thought that

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of poverty and social inequity, and we

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Speaker 1: have to work on violent crime. Some people called it

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Speaker 1: hugs not bullets. Actually he called it that, But they're

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Speaker 1: saying now that he's changed his mind after four years

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Speaker 1: of this.

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Speaker 4: If you know, it doesn't matter what their policies are

626
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Speaker 4: because every day, you know, thousands and thousands of pounds

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Speaker 4: of meth and cocaine and fentanyl.

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Speaker 3: Crossed the border every day.

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Speaker 4: So you know, they could have their policies or not

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Speaker 4: have their policies, doesn't make it different difference. There's so

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Speaker 4: many people working for the drug cartels. There's so many

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Speaker 4: laboratories creating the fenton on the meth, and they have.

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Speaker 3: A distribution system that nobody can keep up with.

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Speaker 1: The US has a five million dollar reward for the

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Speaker 1: capture of this guy. He was indicted in twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: on charges of smuggling meth, cocaine, and marijuana.

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Speaker 4: But that's great, but the next guy just takes over

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Speaker 4: and it's the same system.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the cartel should go on, right, they do this

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Speaker 1: because al Chapa was he's been in prison for a

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Speaker 1: while now and we're still seeing the drug trade bigger

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Speaker 1: than ever.

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty one, Guzman and his brother they were

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Speaker 4: running eleven at laboratories just in Sineloa, producing five thousand

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Speaker 4: pounds of methamphetamine a month and then they sell at

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Speaker 4: wholesale to US and Canadian distributors. They also have a

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Speaker 4: fentanyl trade, and much of the fentanyl smuggle into.

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Speaker 3: The US is produced in laboratories in Kulia, Kan. So

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Speaker 3: I it's going to go on and on and on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but so do you think this was symbolic to

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Speaker 1: try to say to Biden, as you're coming here, look

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Speaker 1: what I did. I got this guy for you.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can capture these guys every once in

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Speaker 4: a while, but there's thousands and thousands of people and

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Speaker 4: they're extremely well armed.

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Speaker 1: And so now you understand why this Mexican The president

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Speaker 1: out of you getting into the drug trade.

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Speaker 3: But they have an economy.

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Speaker 4: There is no industry they can build in Mexico that

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Speaker 4: will make people as much money as this drug.

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Speaker 3: Industry makes them.

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Speaker 4: There's no way to create wages out of you know,

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Speaker 4: traditional industries.

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Speaker 3: It's impossible. This is the best thing to be involved in,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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