1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are going to 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: be talking all things Russia and Ukraine today because we 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: have a Russian born strategic military intelligence analyst with us. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Her name is Rebecca Koffler, and she is also the 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: author of Putin's playbook, Russia's Secret Plan to Defeat America. Rebecca, 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me. 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: Of course, it's pleasure to be here with your tutor 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: in your audience. 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Well, it's such an interesting time because I think everybody 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: is sort of wondering what happens in these next two 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: months and then what happens when Donald Trump takes over. 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: But as we've seen in just the last few days, 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: we see the Secretary of State of the United States 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: of America coming out and saying, oh, we're giving seven 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five million dollars in weapons and equipment 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: to Ukraine to continue this fight. You've studied Putin, you 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: know what's going on. Are we looking at this escalating 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: to a nuclear level? Or what is your prediction of 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: what we see in the next two months? And then 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: once Donald Trump takes office. 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: That's exactly what we're looking at, Tutor, and I predicted 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: it not only back in the intelligence community, having briefed 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: the Obama White House, NATO, Yukoon, strack com which are 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: the combatant commands that are guarding our nuclear weapons and 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: are responsible for prosecuting a war in Europe. I also 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: predicted this in my book Putin's Playboy, Russia's Secret Plan 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 2: to Defeat America, which was published in twenty twenty one 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: and update is coming in March twenty twenty five. So 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: Russian war fighting strategy, its centerpiece is nuclear weapons. Why 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: is that? It's because NATO is conventionally superior and Russia 31 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: is superior in terms of nuclear realm. And now that 32 00:01:54,440 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: President Biden foolishly authorized Zelenski to strike deep into Russia 33 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: with attack on Pudin has retaliated using a an ICBM 34 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: disguised as an IRBM. ICBMs are designed to wage nuclear war, 35 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: and that missile, the Audioshnik, can do both. In fact, 36 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 2: it can fight nuclear war without producing a nuclear mushroom. 37 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: And that's what we are inching towards right now, with 38 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: Biden remaining cognitively impaired and his finger being on the 39 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: nuclear button of US homeland. 40 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: So let me ask you, Russia is so powerful? I 41 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: mean it's such a large country. Now, I know that 42 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: they haven't been in the best financial shape, but they 43 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: are a massive country with a connection to China. How 44 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: is Ukraine actually holding them off? 45 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: It isn't. This is why we are in this third year. 46 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: It's almost three years old. This war. Putin is calibrating 47 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: his war strategy to make it the war of attrition. 48 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: What is a war of attrition? It's the relentless elimination 49 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 2: of adversarial manpower and weapons arsenal Right, he doesn't want 50 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: ideally to provoke a retaliation from NATO or the United States, 51 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: because again he doesn't want to cause nuclear war or 52 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: even a kinetic conventional war. But he wants to keep 53 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: Ukraine away from NATO, which is a red line for Russia. 54 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: And he stated it multiple times. And that's why Ukraine 55 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: is basically ceasing to exist, if you will. It's financially 56 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: one hundred depend and on the United States and Europe. 57 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: And that's why President Biden continues this gravy train, throwing 58 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: in billions and billions of dollars for the unwinnable war 59 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: and ukraine It's infrastructure is fifty percent illuminated by the Russians, 60 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: and so once the infrastructure is eliminated, the power grid 61 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: is down, especially in winter, the people are going to 62 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: have a very very hard time surviving. And that is 63 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: thanks to the miscalculation of the US and NATO of 64 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: what is called the combat potential between Russia and Ukraine. Okay, okay, 65 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: but let me it's never winnable for Ukraine. 66 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. There's two schools of thought, 67 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: and I want to get your opinion on what you 68 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: think Putin is trying to do here. Because there's the 69 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: group of people that say, oh, he's just trying to 70 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: take back the Soviet Union and he wants he wanted Crimea, 71 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: he now he wants Ukraine. He wants to rejoin the 72 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: nations of the Soviet Union and recreate the Soviet Union 73 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: and then he'll be satisfied. And there's a group that 74 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: says he's going to power through Ukraine go right into Poland, 75 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: and that's going to be World War three, and that's 76 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: why the US has to be involved. 77 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the second school of thought is idiotic and 78 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: die here's why Putin is not suicidal. He's a rational man. 79 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: He's not going to invade Poland or Germany. Or any 80 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: NATO country. Why is that. It's because there's a thing 81 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: called Article five collective Defense. And as I said, Russia 82 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: is conventionally inferior. Put In fears the deployment of US 83 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: and NATO troops into the theater in Ukraine. This is 84 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: why he keeps saying that he's going to have to 85 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: use nuclear weapons. And he lowered the nuclear threshold by 86 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: approving an updated nuclear doctrine. And so what he wants 87 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: is to establish what is called the strategic security perimeter 88 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: that has a row with the collapse of the Soviet 89 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: Union in nineteen ninety one, from about one thousand miles 90 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: to one hundred miles. That's a shorter distance than between 91 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: New York and Washington. Just like we the United States 92 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: have our own of the Monroe Doctrine, the Russians have 93 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: theirs on which they have relied for their security on centuries, 94 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: and Ukraine is part of that. And that's what this 95 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: war is all about. 96 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: So, so if Russia just wants Ukraine, I mean, obviously 97 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 1: that's a significant problem. But if that is the goal, 98 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: here have we seen the United States get involved in 99 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: a war like this at this level in the past. 100 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: First, the United States has never been in this type 101 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: of war before because it has never fought with the 102 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: nuclear power. Nuclear weapons are a completely different animal. They 103 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: would not be any winners or losers, so to speak. 104 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: And why is that? And we modeled this back in 105 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: the intelligence community. I personally led some red teams in 106 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: these war games. Red team typically means an adversaries military force, 107 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: whether it's Russia, China, Ran and blue team is the 108 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: United States. Every single war it progressed between Russia and 109 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: the United States, which, by the way, the Russian General 110 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: Staff has assessed a few years ago as inevitable because 111 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: we are fighting with the Russians of the control of 112 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: what they consider them in Roe doctrine. So every war 113 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: progressed eventually into the nuclear realm. And even if you 114 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: fire a tactical nuclear warhead which is sub kiloton yield, 115 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: low fallout, it eventually progresses into a large scale nuclear 116 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: war because the United States does not have currently tactical warheads. 117 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: For your information, President Trump during his first term authorized 118 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: a US capability is similar to what the Russians have 119 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: for our navy to develop a nucleative sea launch criwistmas 120 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: as by President Biden. Nick step program. So this is 121 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: why this war is inevitable. And this is why my 122 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: book is called Russia's Secret Plan to Defeat America because 123 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: such plan does exist, and I describe it at the 124 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: unclassified level. Why does it exist Not because Russians want 125 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: to invade the United States and strike guys. But they 126 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: have prepared this plan for the event that the United 127 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: States uses a third country like Ukraine to defeat Russia. 128 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: That's why it exists. Why do Europeans not participate, Well, 129 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: it beats me. It's a mystery to me. And as 130 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 2: I said, I personally brief NATO in twenty thirty in September, 131 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: just a few months before Putting's invasion of Crimea, and 132 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: I laid out at the classified level what Putting's plans were, 133 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: what the war fighting churgy was. And yet nobody wanted 134 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: to contribute towards their own security and develop a Bible 135 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 2: tourist strategy beef up the force pot job. And in fact, 136 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: very few countries right now in NATO contribute even two 137 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: percent towards their security because they are used to using 138 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: as as suckers. Even Germany, the richest country in Europe, 139 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: still does it not pay two percent so, and it's 140 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: just interesting. 141 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: It's not the it's not historically what the United States 142 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: has done. I mean, this is certainly not what the 143 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: founding fathers wanted. They were saying, stay out of foreign 144 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,479 Speaker 1: wars as much as you can. You are a superpower, 145 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: or they were planning to become. They knew that they 146 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: knew what they had with the land of the United 147 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: States of America, they knew that the potential was there. Ultimately, 148 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: the United the States becomes a superpower. I understand peace 149 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: through strength. This is just now an ongoing war. I 150 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: see the Democrats continuously every day promoting this ongoing war. 151 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: It's very suspicious. Now you have, as you mentioned, Joe 152 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: Biden saying that he's authorizing Ukraine to bomb Russia. That's 153 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: a whole nother level. Putin had already warned of nuclear 154 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: war if that were to happen. That was his response 155 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: to this. Now, in the last after that response of 156 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: him saying that he will use nuclear weapons that will 157 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: reach the United States, we have the Secretary of State 158 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: announcing that they're sending more weapons and more equipment to Ukraine. 159 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: I haven't read exactly what that equipment and what those 160 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: weapons are, what is happening here between Biden and Trump, 161 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: because you've said that Putin has tricked for presidents Trump 162 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: is not one of them. Is Biden being manipulated right 163 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: now or is he doing this in order to set 164 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: Trump up for failure and nuclear war. 165 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: It's a mystery to me, Trud. I'm actually very good 166 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: at getting inside put In the mindset and on which 167 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 2: I spent my intelligence Korea. I have no idea how 168 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: Biden's brain works and whether it was. 169 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: Actually might not know that right this moment either it doesn't. 170 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: So I have two hypotheses. Well, let's just say it's 171 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: one primary hypothesis that the real person who is pulling 172 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:36,119 Speaker 2: the stray the strings here is someone like President Obama 173 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: and his circle, because look at it this way, the 174 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: majority of Biden's circle are Obama people, the Obama people 175 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: that have the same ideology, and that is to continue 176 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: what they view as democratizing Ukraine, and Ukraine has nothing 177 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: in its history just like Russia, pointing to the fact 178 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: that it could ever become a democracy. In fact, Zelensky 179 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: is a mini cho Putin. He's not a democratic leader, 180 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: and we can talk about it forever. You know, he 181 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: outlawed all opposition. 182 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: So, well, yeah, he doesn't. Now that he's in a 183 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: wartime president, he never has to have another election. I mean, 184 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: that's pretty suspicious. The guy is coming over in sweatpants 185 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: and a sweatshirt and addressing the UN and everybody else. 186 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean, there's something nobody feels good about that. And 187 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: yet there seemed to be this faction of the country 188 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: that are completely brainwashed into believing that this guy has 189 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: some global hero, which I don't see him as a 190 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: global hero at all. Let's take a quick commercial break. 191 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: We'll continue next. On the Tutor Dixon podcast. You talk 192 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: about Obama, get into that because you say he was 193 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: tricked by Putin, and I want to know exactly what 194 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: you mean by that, because if he truly is pulling 195 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: the strings, and I believe he is in much of 196 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party, how much danger are we in and 197 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: how could he be so naive? 198 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: So basically what happened during the Obama presidency. In the 199 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: beginning the next one, I briefed his White House at 200 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: highly highly classified level on Putin's plans. They didn't want 201 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 2: to hear that. At the Pentagon, the response was, why 202 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: do you keep telling us about a war? With Russia. 203 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: We're not planning on going to war with Russia. And 204 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: my response was, well, the Russians believe that we will 205 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: be at war, might want to listen because the Russians 206 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: saw that we keep, you know, expanding NATO. Well, Obama 207 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: wanted to have peace with Putin, and Putin is a 208 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: former KGB officer. He basically prides himself on being a 209 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: human relations specialist. And I quote and he boughted out, uh, 210 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 2: you know, Obama, he was basically manipulating them to the 211 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: point where in twenty thirteen, when Syria's Assad used chemical 212 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: weapons against his own people, Obama and his Secretary of 213 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: State John Kerry decided, oh, let's just let the Russians 214 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: eliminate or take out those weapons. And this was almost laughable. 215 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: And we couldn't believe in the intelligence community that Obama 216 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: and his advisors could be so stupid as to believe 217 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: that Putin would actually do that, because Russia and Syria 218 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: are allies, and so this level of incompetence exists in 219 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: the US national security operatus, and so it's very dangerous 220 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: right now during this period where President Trump is still 221 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: not president and President Biden is basically messing up Trump's 222 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: peace plan by can continuing to escalate and to basically 223 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: continue flowing billions of dollars of weaponry into Ukraine. But 224 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: my suspicion is there's also huge and huge monetary entanglements 225 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: between the military industrial complex and the Biden administration in Ukraine, 226 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: because why else would they never, you know, have enough 227 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: money for our own people. You know, Americans who experience 228 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: hurricanes and other hardships, but there's always somehow money for 229 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: someone else, such as Ukraine. Billions and billions of them. 230 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Oh, you can't possibly mean that maybe people in the 231 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: administration are making money off of us staying at war. 232 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: Well, watch way people go. Once Biden is out right, 233 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: watch where all of his advisors go, what kind of 234 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: jobs they take, And I guarantee you it's going to 235 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: be the Lockheed Margins, the North through Grammans and the 236 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: raytheons of the US. Look at where a Secretary of 237 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: Defense Lloyd Austin comes from, and he personally he said 238 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: that the goal of US involvement in what technically is 239 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: a Russia Ukraine a local war is to deplete Russian's 240 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: weapons arsenal and to weaken Russia militarily and at the 241 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: same time, it's feeding our military industrial complex, and Secretar 242 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: Lloyd Austin was on the board, that's where he came from, 243 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: on the board of a huge military industrial complex. 244 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, is there the chance then, what you're saying 245 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: would be that there is the chance that an administration 246 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: and I don't believe that Joe Biden is making these 247 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: decisions because I don't believe Joe Biden is making any decisions. 248 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't even believe that Joe Biden. Pardon Hunter Biden. 249 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: I think that Hunter Biden sat down at Thanksgiving dinner 250 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: and looked at his mother and said, he can't even speak. 251 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: We've got to do this now before he dies before 252 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: the end of his term. So I don't believe Joe 253 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: Biden is making any decisions right now. But I do 254 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: believe that there are enough corrupt individuals in government on 255 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: both sides, but the Biden administration is in office right now, 256 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: that they would continue to escalate a war for personal profit. 257 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Look, as you mentioned, I was born 258 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: and raised in Soviet Russia. I came to this country 259 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: for justice and freedom, and what I found having served 260 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: in the US government that it's worse than the Serviet 261 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: government and the KGB. Why is that. It's because in 262 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: Russia you know exactly what to expect. You know, the 263 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: government does corrupt. You know Putin is an assassin. You 264 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: know KGB tortures and poisons people. In the US, we 265 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: have this impression that we have a system of justice. 266 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: But you know, it's basically Trump's i mean, Biden's pardon 267 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: of Hunter Biden, whoever that's behind all this stuff. It's 268 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: straight out of the Soviet playbook. The whole dual justice 269 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: system is straight out of the Soviet playbook. They borrowed it, 270 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: and it's basically they're doing the very same thing that 271 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: the Russian dictatorship the Chinese dictatorship are doing to keep 272 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: their power. 273 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: To keep to be honest. For let's be honest for 274 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: a second too, because Ukraine was one of the most 275 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: corrupt countries in the entire entirety of Europe, especially Eastern Europe, 276 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: and Hunter Biden went there like that's where he learned 277 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: this stuff. Hunter Biden was a prodigy of the corruption 278 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: of Ukraine. So we forget, we seem to forget that 279 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: Ukraine was so corrupt we sent someone there to try 280 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: to figure out what was going on. We tried to 281 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: get infiltrate and find out how bad it truly was. 282 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: So Russia is now trying to take back their own 283 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this was a part of the Soviet Union, 284 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, so they learned it from the best. 285 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean when you talk about him being a person 286 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: of human relations or a specialist of human relations, this 287 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: is a guy was to train brainwasher. I mean, he 288 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: just messes with people's minds. That's what these people do. 289 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: And Ukraine is just a little Russia. Okay, So now 290 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: he's trying to bring them back together. Our president's son 291 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: learned from the worst of the worst, and now suddenly 292 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: we're sending them billions of dollars to fight the mother 293 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: of all communist countries and the people who are taught 294 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: them to brainwash everybody. What are we thinking. 295 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: Exactly to And I'll bring one more dimension to this. 296 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 2: Our leaders like to lecture countries like Russia and China, 297 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: positioning themselves and as morally superior. Right. But Joe Biden 298 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: just a few years ago asked Zelensky op pressure Zelensky 299 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: to lower the conscription rate for Ukrainian military to eighteen. 300 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: These are kids I have a twenty one year old 301 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: born in America, and he's a kid to me. Right now, 302 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: half a million of Ukrainian men are either dead or 303 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 2: gravely wounded, and the Ukrainian KGB right the SBUs Lucabi 304 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: Bespeke Ukraine is running around grabbing Ukrainian men off the 305 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: streets to throw them on the battlefield. How can we 306 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: pretend that we have this moral superiority. I mean, Biden 307 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: basically has Ukrainian's blood on his hand. 308 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of my conversation with Rebecca Koffler, 309 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: but first I want to tell you about my partners 310 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: at IFCJ. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, wishes 311 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: you a blessed beginning of the holiday season as you 312 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: gather with your friends and family, grateful for all the 313 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: blessings God has given to all of us. Let's also 314 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: remember those who are facing unbelievable harmship in need of food, fellowship, 315 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: and hope. 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What happens then if he 334 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: gets that, what happens, then what's his goal? Putin? 335 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: So the nuance here, I did not say he wants 336 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: to tech to physically reunite the Soviet Union. What I 337 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: said is he wants to reconstitute the strategic security perimeter. 338 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: And what that means is that, uh, they want to 339 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: have Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia be governed by neral either neutral 340 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: governments or pro Russian, but it minimum not hostile to Russia. 341 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: And so and they want neutrality in terms of military blocks. 342 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 2: They don't want these countries in NATO because once NATO admits, 343 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: you know, a country, it deploys its military hardware, It 344 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: deployed you know, such as radar systems, which is part 345 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: of the missile defense, It deploys forces and things like that. 346 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: And so then all of a sudden, Russia fiance, yeah, 347 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: adversari alliance, which is actually designated as its top security 348 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: thread right on its doorsteps. So that's what Putin doesn't want. Now, 349 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: if let's just say President Trump, for argument's sake, is 350 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: going to make that piece deal, which now is going 351 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: to be extremely difficult because Putin does not trust the 352 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: United States at this point, because Biden just did one eighty. 353 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: Biden himself said two years ago that he doesn't provide 354 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: attack comes to Ukraine because he doesn't want to start 355 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 2: a World War three, and now he did, so it's 356 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 2: gonna be very difficult for Trumps. But arguments say, let's 357 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: just say Trump does that peace planned, you still Europeans 358 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: have to beef up their forced pasture because Russia is 359 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 2: the kind of country. It is an opportunistic right. What 360 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: does it mean. It's because throughout the centuries it relied 361 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: on the depth to protect Moscow and Simpetersburg, the two 362 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 2: seats of the Russian government. And so if Europe is 363 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 2: not protected, meaning if they don't beef up the force pasture, 364 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 2: and NATO is so fractured that puldn't believe decides that 365 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 2: Article five is not going to be enforced. I do 366 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 2: not rule out the possibility that, let's say, five or 367 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: ten years from today, if NATO is weak, that he 368 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: would try to take back the Baltics. Okay, so that 369 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: is the conundrum. You have to be very nuanced in 370 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: your Russia policy. And I don't have the confidence that 371 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: the people who are in charge right now have the 372 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: intellectual firepower, in the historic knowledge to deal with somebody 373 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: as intelligent and sophisticated and brutal as Russian President Vladimir Putin. 374 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, brutal, I think is the word that people seem 375 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: to forget about this. I think everybody thinks that this 376 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 1: is the modern world where everybody is nice. I mean, 377 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: you end up with backpackers who go through Afghanistan because 378 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: they want to prove that everybody's friendly, and they're immediately murdered. 379 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: You know, this is like people don't understand that there 380 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: are brutal dictators out there, and Putin seems to be 381 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: connecting himself to most of them. I mean, he's become 382 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: friends with President g in China. He is using North 383 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: Korean missiles. What is the connection between ron China, North Korea, 384 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: and Russia. 385 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 2: Well, the connection is simple, and that is the hatred 386 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: of the United States and the perception that the US 387 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: is their top security threat. Since you brought up North Korea, 388 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 2: some of the so called analysts right the talking head 389 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 2: are saying that, oh, Putin now has to rely on 390 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: North Korean weapons and on their soldiers. No, Putin is 391 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 2: involving the North Korean soldiers to give them combat experience 392 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 2: for the eventuality that there is, in fact World War 393 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 2: three in which Russia, China, run in North Korea are 394 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: going to be on one front and Nata are going 395 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 2: to be on the other. So the Chinese haven't had 396 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: combat experience. Neither have the North Koreans Iranians had experience 397 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: in irregular warfare because they use proxies, but none of 398 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: them have conventional traditional warfare experience, and that's what the 399 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: North Koreans are getting. Putin has plenty of his own forces. 400 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: He just authorized the enlargement of the Russian forces over 401 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: the limit of the maximum allowable limit of He's now 402 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: in christed to two million, three hundred and fifty thousand 403 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: of them one point five million active duty. For comparison, 404 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 2: the United States has about one and a half million 405 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: that includes national reserves, and Putin just authorized a massive 406 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: increase in the defense budget. So he's getting ready to 407 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: fight a protected, very long war, including World War three, 408 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: And all we have to say is, oh, the Russians 409 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: don't know how to fight. You know, this military system 410 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: is not good. That is not good. He's relying on 411 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: like you have to actually use your brain and study 412 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: the problem. You can't just like say things. And that's 413 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: what it seems like. All the traditional media channels, you know, 414 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: unlike your channel and some other you know, new types 415 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: of media, all of these people who give you three minutes, 416 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: three to five minutes to explain these extremely complex problems. 417 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: All they do is buzzwords, right, and they. 418 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: Don't want to know. They don't want They also don't 419 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: want to go against the administration. They don't want to 420 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: admit that. These people, I think that there's this there's 421 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: been this discussion for many years of globalism, and globalism 422 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: brings peace because everybody relies on one another. We're all 423 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: sharing products and we're all sharing trade, and it's wonderful. 424 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: It's a glorious utopia. And that's just simply not true. 425 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: And if you speak to military experts, they would tell 426 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: you every single time, yes, to you, that makes sense 427 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: when you are dealing with a homicidal dictator who is, 428 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: as you said, brutal. And then I'm talking about them 429 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: all together because you're dealing with China, you're dealing with 430 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: North Korea. I mean these guys that I had told 431 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: these guys their next level, like no one in the 432 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: United States even can comprehend what this is. And they 433 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: don't care about trade. At the end of the day, 434 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: that's not their concern. They will go, they will work 435 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: with each other, and they will take everybody else out. 436 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: There's just no logic there. I just don't know why 437 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: the American people don't see this. 438 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: And the logic is to uh, the logic is to 439 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: deceive the adversary. They even use trade to invent certain 440 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: malicious products and capabilities into our capability military, including military capabilities. 441 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: I mean TikTok and all the components on which we 442 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: rely electronics, they are all just rigged and rigged with 443 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: intelligence collection type of capabilities. Like I personally I used it. 444 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: Why was TikTok banned from US government? But unfortunately, like 445 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: in our infinite wisdom, we allow platforms like let's say, 446 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: the Russian KGB owned Kaspersky for years, Kaspersky anti virus 447 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: software was deployed on our federal computer systems. It's not 448 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: until President Donald Trump came in and said, boot that 449 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: crap partner my French out. But again, the people who 450 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: manage us, they're just really low IQ. Like President Trump says, 451 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to say that. I don't know how else 452 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: to say it. 453 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: No, I agree. I mean, these are things we've heard 454 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: about for years. We all remember when we said, oh, 455 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: we can't have Huawei, but we have all these electronics. 456 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: We have these dr I mean our drones that we 457 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: use at the border. The drones come from China. It's outrageous. 458 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: It's like we've got to have people that are serious 459 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: get in there and say national security is number one. 460 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: If you don't have national security, you have nothing. And 461 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: yet it seems to be lost on so many folks. 462 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: But I think it's not necessarily lost. I think you're right. 463 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is corruption, and we 464 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: can talk about it for probably hours more. But I 465 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: appreciate you so much coming on, Rebecca Coffler, Thank you 466 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: so much. 467 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: Of course. 468 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: Is there any place people can follow you or where 469 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: can they get your book? 470 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: My book you can find really anywhere on Amazon or 471 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: wherever the books are sold called Putin's Playbook. The update 472 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: coming in March, and I am on all social media Twitter, 473 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: get our true social YouTube you name it. Rebecca zero 474 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: one three to two is my handle. 475 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 1: Wonderful. 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