Speaker 1: What's happening, and what's happening, and what's happening. It's your boy,
Speaker 1: Big Steel with a very special, a very special Against
Speaker 1: the Chronicles podcast. We on the eve of Glasses Malone
Speaker 1: dropping his new album Cancel These Nuts, and of course
Speaker 1: Glasses is late, but I'm in here with his partner
Speaker 1: in crime, his big partner in crime, the man behind
Speaker 1: the boards on this entire project, IRV and Pope professionally
Speaker 1: known as ep EP was having a baby. Man. You
Speaker 1: know what, It's a phenomenal album, man, I really feel,
Speaker 1: really feel really really strongly about this. Man.
Speaker 2: We made it right.
Speaker 1: We made it, yeah, for sure, man, And you know what,
Speaker 1: I think I would be disappointed man if we didn't
Speaker 1: go at least on this.
Speaker 2: From the time that we end.
Speaker 3: And for the body of work and the subject matter,
Speaker 3: I mean, it has all the elements to go flatten
Speaker 3: them really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does, man. Right now, man, so I'm telling
Speaker 1: everybody right now, man, album, Well, by the time y'all
Speaker 1: hear this, the album be released already, but all streaming
Speaker 1: platforms everywhere you can even order advanced copies. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have a link in there. Not advanced copies, but physical copies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ain't it's crazy man, on how physical copies are anomaly now.
Speaker 2: Man, exactly. People, I'm glad. I'm glad to know that
Speaker 2: people really want them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that collector's items.
Speaker 1: Yes, what I'm saying. But they are collector's items right now. Man.
Speaker 1: I remember when I was doing my thing, Man, physical
Speaker 1: was a big thing. Man. You had you had to
Speaker 1: manufacture tapes, CDs at one time, tape CDs and vinyl.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: You would mess around, man, your budget be gone, you
Speaker 1: be down in your budget, man, eighty ninety k just
Speaker 1: that quick.
Speaker 2: Exactly, just emerge, not to merge, but but the physical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the physical stuff. And then you had recording
Speaker 1: studio time which was really extended. Sit back in the day, man,
Speaker 1: and you was taking on two inch tape and it
Speaker 1: was crazy, Man, it was really crazy. I actually think
Speaker 1: it's better nowadays though, kind of ep froze up a
Speaker 1: little bit on us. We're waiting for him to come
Speaker 1: back in, waiting for Glasses Malone to come back in.
Speaker 1: You dig what I'm saying. And we got the load
Speaker 1: coming in the house. The load just done came in.
Speaker 1: What's up, g Yeah, EP Froze, I'm back.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man. It was just a whole different dynamic and we
Speaker 1: got the man of the hour himself in the house.
Speaker 1: Me and EP was just talking about back in the day, man,
Speaker 1: with all it took to actually release Apple at one time,
Speaker 1: you had to get CDs, cassettes and vinyl manufacturer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did all that.
Speaker 4: I checked all the boxes.
Speaker 1: It was a crazy time because you would be down
Speaker 1: big and your budget, man, and we was recording on
Speaker 1: two inch tape. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I did a whole home on that before so I
Speaker 5: could relate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So while I got y'all both here, man, congratulations, Man,
Speaker 1: we did it. I was telling EP I would feel
Speaker 1: I would feel some kind of ways we did hold
Speaker 1: because I believe it's a phenomenal project. And it was
Speaker 1: a phenomenal project. And is that your little journalist's voice? No, man,
Speaker 1: can you just can you let me do me? Man?
Speaker 1: Can you allow me to do me? Boy?
Speaker 6: You that I don't devil take you and you just
Speaker 6: find your barber watchings was so fast?
Speaker 1: Did I have a certain level of professionalism? Man? I
Speaker 1: can't be on here talking you know, and all that
Speaker 1: the ponics and slang which and all that shit man
Speaker 1: that were doing that we do through the day.
Speaker 6: I try to say, your project came out phenomenal, tremendous effort.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a tremendous effort man, you know because
Speaker 1: I got to see man, we all went into it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I really feel like y'all both poor your heart and
Speaker 1: soul into it.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we poured a hard sold into it. Man. It's
Speaker 1: a phenomenal project. Man. I'm gonna ask you. EPU asked
Speaker 1: me what my favorite song? He was, Man, what's your
Speaker 1: favorite song on here?
Speaker 2: Like my kids, I can't pick it right now. I
Speaker 2: love them all.
Speaker 3: I was like, tomorrow something gonna hit me different than
Speaker 3: it hit me today and yesterday. I mean, I'm still
Speaker 3: enjoying it. That's how I know it's a classic project, bro.
Speaker 3: But the makers are still feeling it, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Normally like I put some out and I'm
Speaker 3: on to the next. But I keep like I really
Speaker 3: ride to this album.
Speaker 1: Ain't that funny? You know? I want to ask Glasses
Speaker 1: in particular, Man, you're going hard on here? Man, what
Speaker 1: was your mindset going into this? Man?
Speaker 5: What was my mindset?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was just Tuesday. Really, it really was Tuesday.
Speaker 6: I know that sounds crazy, but people like you who
Speaker 6: know me, you feel me, y'all know exactly what I
Speaker 6: mean when I say it's Tuesday, Like this is just normally,
Speaker 6: this is what the flavor of the week was for
Speaker 6: this part ticular album. You know what I'm saying, what
Speaker 6: I'm most proud of is what I'm most proud of.
Speaker 6: I feel like we did a really good job, Like
Speaker 6: we did a fantastic job dog of like capturing everything
Speaker 6: at the same time, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 6: coming back to E at the end, telling them like, yo,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I want to.
Speaker 6: I want to make sure we do stuff in posts
Speaker 6: E trusting me really, like certain times I wanted to
Speaker 6: take stuff away or reorganize something because I just felt
Speaker 6: like I was rapping and I couldn't compliment those particular
Speaker 6: hats or I had a hat pattern like him allowing
Speaker 6: me to tinker in the record making process, not just
Speaker 6: respecting me, you know, andto being just the MC, but
Speaker 6: allow me to make the best records that I could,
Speaker 6: to compliment the productions.
Speaker 1: For sure, for sure. Man, So I'm gonna go through
Speaker 1: each one of these songs. Man, I want you each
Speaker 1: to explain ain't me. You know, I've heard the records already,
Speaker 1: but the people out there obviously hasn't. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: directly the number two to cancel these nuts. What does
Speaker 1: cancel these nuts about?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: The title track?
Speaker 5: Cancel these nets?
Speaker 6: So it was funny because I think that's like self stated,
Speaker 6: you feel me. But to me, honestly, it's a lot
Speaker 6: richer than most people.
Speaker 5: Cancel these nuts.
Speaker 1: To me is like.
Speaker 6: I feel like the industry make a lot of artists,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, The powers that be, the
Speaker 6: the finance, the Wealth Department makes a lot of artists.
Speaker 6: So like they can cancel them. They make you, they
Speaker 6: could break you. I always felt like I was always
Speaker 6: self made from the first day to the last name,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, not self made.
Speaker 5: Olivia made me.
Speaker 6: But like as far as artistry didn't know, power structure
Speaker 6: decided I was gonna be it. Matter of fact, they
Speaker 6: fought me tooth and nail the whole time, trying to
Speaker 6: stop me from being it. And I'm still I still
Speaker 6: end up becoming it, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 6: cancel these nehsing is my attitude that I'm gonna say
Speaker 6: whatever I want to say, and really there's nothing nobody
Speaker 6: can really do about it, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
Speaker 6: There's no nothing nobody can do. You know what I mean,
Speaker 6: because none of you motherfuckers made me.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Period, It's something that God did himself, I mean, and
Speaker 6: my parents.
Speaker 5: So this is what it's all about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you look at the culture and the climate
Speaker 1: that we're in right now, it's really like that time. Man,
Speaker 1: Like if you saw what they did. I know it's
Speaker 1: a touchy subject, but if you saw what they did.
Speaker 1: R Kelly for example, Yeah, he did some stuff that
Speaker 1: wasn't cool, but it was a whole lot of people
Speaker 1: that needed to be held accountable in that mix too,
Speaker 1: and they just pretty much ruined that. Man.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, Mark Kelly's situation is unique because really,
Speaker 6: you know, if he committed a crime like any other criminal,
Speaker 6: I understand, you know why they have a you know,
Speaker 6: a penal system to try to keep balance subject, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, And I don't want without throwing
Speaker 6: any other anybody else under the bus. I don't think
Speaker 6: that's the most important part. But they made R Kelly
Speaker 6: so they break they could break R Kelly. They made
Speaker 6: it so they could break it.
Speaker 1: And that's what I see, and that's what I mean
Speaker 1: in his case. Right to me, it was a thing
Speaker 1: to where everybody was just kind of moved away from him.
Speaker 1: Didn't nobody want to be around him, didn't nobody want
Speaker 1: them to backlash to go on them, nobody wanted to
Speaker 1: suffer none of that heat. So it was like kind
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, we gonna throw him down the well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And it's funny because he did so much
Speaker 6: for everybody, you know what I mean. And but that's
Speaker 6: how it go I mean, man, that's why I run
Speaker 6: these niggas off the block anyway, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I don't let them be next to me anyway. I
Speaker 6: don't let him absorb my energy. I don't let him
Speaker 6: absorb my power. I don't let them I don't let
Speaker 6: him be around me, you know what I mean, Because
Speaker 6: I always already know, like when it goes down, it
Speaker 6: ain't no friends. So we're not gonna fake like we're
Speaker 6: friends now. You know, maybe we could do some music,
Speaker 6: you know, maybe we could do something, But the people
Speaker 6: that fuck with me.
Speaker 5: They fuck with me right now.
Speaker 1: So that's all it is exactly, man, Because we are
Speaker 1: living in you know, it's supposed it's to a certain level.
Speaker 1: We're supposed to have freedom of speech, right, but that
Speaker 1: seems to have been thrown out the window nowadays. It's like,
Speaker 1: if you see the thing about the wrong person, you
Speaker 1: could be in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 6: Well you got the freedom, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Just come with consequence, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 6: to me, that's what cancel these nets the whole album,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. First track on down is
Speaker 6: about is regardless of the consequence, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I'm not looking to make friends now.
Speaker 1: EP, you are well reserved, brother, man, do you need
Speaker 1: to records scare you?
Speaker 4: I understand freedom of speech. I understand freedom of speech.
Speaker 3: I agree with with the records, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I agree with with telling our songs.
Speaker 2: Mmm.
Speaker 4: So they were funny to me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: It's like, all right, well let's go.
Speaker 6: I just think like a lot of it, a lot
Speaker 6: of it was just really being funny, man, Like as
Speaker 6: serious as subject matters, or it was meant to be funny.
Speaker 1: It's all funny, you know what, man, And it's going
Speaker 1: on around like time can be flying. Gee, do you
Speaker 1: realize how long then you've been messing with each other?
Speaker 3: Dog?
Speaker 5: Over twenty years now?
Speaker 4: Was crazy?
Speaker 6: I was thinking, it's crazy. So it's been eight years
Speaker 6: since I released my last album. Glass House two was
Speaker 6: like my tenth project. This makes my eleventh project, so
Speaker 6: I can put out Glasshouse two in twenty fifteen. And
Speaker 6: what really happened was in two, let's say twenty thirteen,
Speaker 6: I started to kind of fall down this this this
Speaker 6: this this uh, this rabbit hole of hip hop and records,
Speaker 6: you know. And I started off with records, you know,
Speaker 6: just that journey of understanding what records are about the
Speaker 6: science of communicating through songs, you know, I mean because
Speaker 6: to me, that's what records is. It's the science of
Speaker 6: communicating through songs. People say, I use the word hit
Speaker 6: records or songs, but it's not like records are the
Speaker 6: science of communicating through songs telling you an idea that
Speaker 6: makes it easy for you to digest.
Speaker 5: You can understand what the message I'm trying to cross
Speaker 5: to you is.
Speaker 6: Starting there, ending up in hip hop only being able
Speaker 6: to get Glasshouse too out because it was so like,
Speaker 6: it was so much to learn all of this stuff
Speaker 6: about records and hip hop and then to end up
Speaker 6: trying to learn marketing. People don't know what the hell
Speaker 6: I went through, you know what I mean. It was
Speaker 6: just crazy. So I couldn't put out music at the.
Speaker 5: Same time as learning, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: It's like trying to have a job being a doctor,
Speaker 6: you know, while in medical school, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: You got to be at the very end, and it's
Speaker 6: like you got to keep going back to school. You know,
Speaker 6: even as a doctor, you're gonna keep having to learn stuff.
Speaker 6: So that's what it felt like like being this kind
Speaker 6: of one man you know, it's almost like a one
Speaker 6: man army. But really you have so much respect for
Speaker 6: what everybody else do, like what EP does as a producer,
Speaker 6: what Lester and Jason Joshua and eah Ski dos mix
Speaker 6: is what you have to do as a manager, what
Speaker 6: my job is, or what James Brown job was as
Speaker 6: a record maker.
Speaker 5: And it's like going to school to be a doctor.
Speaker 6: And it was no way I could be out being
Speaker 6: a doctor while going to school to be a doctor.
Speaker 5: And that shit beat the shit out of me. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It took a long time, so we here eight years
Speaker 6: later and I'm still grateful anyway, and now we just
Speaker 6: got Now the work begins, which is crazy because like
Speaker 6: we spent two years making this project. Me and EP
Speaker 6: started just fooling around and then we figured god a
Speaker 6: rhythm and you know, it didn't take a ton of time,
Speaker 6: but we just knew where we were going. So it's
Speaker 6: it's I'm happy to be here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: It took eight years to get to this next album.
Speaker 6: It's eleventh project, but I'm grateful yet to still Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what I love about it, man, is y'all
Speaker 1: really took it back to what hip hop is about
Speaker 1: the rapper and the producer actually being in the studio
Speaker 1: together banging out records instead of just sending beats over
Speaker 1: the internet, you know, emailing beats and you writing your
Speaker 1: wraps and they know there's no cohesion to that. Sometimes,
Speaker 1: you know, you hear records sometimes and they just sound
Speaker 1: like they're missing something that a lot of times that's
Speaker 1: the element of being in the room together.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it just what crazy is. Me and E
Speaker 6: wasn't in the room all the time. We might've been
Speaker 6: in the same room four times, but we was on
Speaker 6: the phone, probably fucking our phone numbers probably got thousands
Speaker 6: of hours.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: You know. Of course, with technology being is with it,
Speaker 1: you know today you don't necessarily have to be in
Speaker 1: the same room. But y'all was very much in concert.
Speaker 6: Uce no man, We was passing records back a lot
Speaker 6: of these songs, like epall tell you a lot of
Speaker 6: these songs. These are like the thirteenth and fifteenth versions
Speaker 6: of the exact songs. Yeah, like we might have went
Speaker 6: back and forth ten twelve times, add in small details,
Speaker 6: adding small things to hooks, like I hear Kanye should
Speaker 6: have never married that bitch right now, and I always
Speaker 6: be like that bitch belong, that bitch belonged. I should
Speaker 6: ask somebody with a d voice, come on that bitch
Speaker 6: belong that bitch belong be long to the street. I
Speaker 6: could keep hearing that that detail. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, and I don't have it. So I used
Speaker 6: to laugh when Dre all the nigga used to tell
Speaker 6: me they used to feel like a record wasn't finished.
Speaker 6: Because when I first got into Ben I'm like, oh,
Speaker 6: this record done, but now I get it. So a
Speaker 6: lot of the dumb shit I thought at first, I
Speaker 6: felt like asshole.
Speaker 5: For thinking it.
Speaker 4: I would say this, I would say this.
Speaker 3: Still it boils down to one word, and that's trust.
Speaker 3: Like I trust him, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 3: trust him with the I ain't never just gain nobody
Speaker 3: my sessions and like, hey man, just do what you
Speaker 3: do what you do, that's true, and vice versa, like
Speaker 3: he's never really done records like this, but like I know,
Speaker 3: he gets it, and he puts the right subjects to
Speaker 3: the right text music and it just worked. So it
Speaker 3: worked so easily and so fluently that that it was
Speaker 3: it's easy.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to do this.
Speaker 5: That's a great point.
Speaker 6: Like it was times I was like, yo, he sent
Speaker 6: me the session and I might not want to arrange nothing,
Speaker 6: but like I might need to really just you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, like do something here. I need to
Speaker 6: move something so I could do something right here and
Speaker 6: then I can bring it back so you know, And
Speaker 6: a lot of times I even engineered you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'll send him back some shit.
Speaker 3: I could to say, gee, let me give your credits too,
Speaker 3: because a lot of them drops you here on the records, Bro,
Speaker 3: that's him.
Speaker 4: He created them, drops in spaces and even some of
Speaker 4: the collaps and rhythms.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, only a hand for only.
Speaker 1: G is actually turning into a really good all around artist.
Speaker 1: He's producing, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You know
Speaker 1: he's producing now, he's writing. And I remember it used
Speaker 1: to be funny when I first met G and he
Speaker 1: make records. I always knew he was a bad motherfucker
Speaker 1: on the mic, right, but we was.
Speaker 6: You know, we start fucking hook sound like a right, Like,
Speaker 6: why do your hook sound like a rap?
Speaker 1: To kind of tell him because he was in there
Speaker 1: making records now here, I'm just going off on his hook,
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, bru, that sounds like another damn verse. Man,
Speaker 1: It's like shorten that up. You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: What's crazy is I ain't grew up listening like I
Speaker 6: grew up listening to music, but I didn't grow up
Speaker 6: wanting to be a rapper, so structure was not my
Speaker 6: strong suit. But again we tho like white Lightning, we
Speaker 6: don't don't get a lot of credit because he moved
Speaker 6: to Atlanta it was dope working with EP, like he
Speaker 6: this is the truth, like it ain't about EP is
Speaker 6: the producer of the project. But we made records together
Speaker 6: like We're gonna go back and forth and I'm gonna
Speaker 6: keep pushing him. And it was really wonderful, doggor It
Speaker 6: really was fun, you know what I mean. Like the
Speaker 6: business side, we got so much stuff to do, man,
Speaker 6: But it's like it was, it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It was better.
Speaker 5: It was a It was a better experience than I
Speaker 5: thought it actually would be.
Speaker 1: You know what I think about sometimes, man, And I
Speaker 1: really think about this man, just from where you at
Speaker 1: as an artist, man in the chemistry to an EP gout.
Speaker 1: I'll be thinking sometimes, Man, I wish you would have
Speaker 1: had this shit when we was on the big boystage.
Speaker 6: It's funny, man, it wouldn't have worked as well like
Speaker 6: I mean it had been. I think I would have
Speaker 6: had way better records, you know what I mean than
Speaker 6: I had to some degree, especially the second you know,
Speaker 6: move a beach Cruiser.
Speaker 5: But it's better now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: To sound crazy, and I know we don't got you know,
Speaker 6: Birdman writing four million dollar checks, but the music is
Speaker 6: so powerful in itself that it's going to create four
Speaker 6: million dollars worth of promotion no matter what. So I
Speaker 6: always I've thought of that. I'm like, damn, man, I
Speaker 6: wish I'd have been having EP do this and that.
Speaker 6: And then I, you know, again, questioning God ain't necessarily
Speaker 6: the smartest move.
Speaker 1: You know he got.
Speaker 6: He put EP right in my and my and my
Speaker 6: wheelhouse right when I needed in there, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, when it would make sense when I could
Speaker 6: appreciate even what he does, Like my appreciation for what
Speaker 6: he does is unbelievable versus when I first met him,
Speaker 6: I just knew he made beats and he could play.
Speaker 6: I didn't really understand, you know what a real you
Speaker 6: know player mint That shit is different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. We was just talking about that, and
Speaker 1: I was telling the man, I wish I could play
Speaker 1: the piano because it's different. When you were up there
Speaker 1: and EP was just in there playing shit without looking
Speaker 1: at it, that was me.
Speaker 5: I'm on that motherfucking EP.
Speaker 6: And this is the point, like, this is where nobody understands,
Speaker 6: and this is where it won't matter when you listen
Speaker 6: to cancel these nuts unless you really know this motherfucker
Speaker 6: straight up.
Speaker 5: He don't loop the melody lines.
Speaker 1: Through. Ain't that something else?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I gotta I gotta thank G too, because like
Speaker 3: me and G had a conversation. Bro like it it
Speaker 3: goes back and forth. Because we had a conversation. I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: i gotta get my name in the street. I'm tired
Speaker 3: of these little niggas like man E P.
Speaker 4: I heard EP. He's like, no, Nigga, I'm finna get
Speaker 4: your name back because I.
Speaker 3: Do stuff for Tech nine and jay Z and all
Speaker 3: these but it ain't in my backyard, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. So I met G when I did Bastards
Speaker 3: of the Party the whole soundtrack, so Bone introduced me
Speaker 3: to him. But the record he put he made on
Speaker 3: there was he put a hook on it by one
Speaker 3: of my favorite artists, which is uh.
Speaker 4: With John Mayer waiting on the world to waiting for
Speaker 4: the World to change.
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, how did this this dude come up
Speaker 3: with that hook for that song? So I had an
Speaker 3: appreciation for him because of the musical IQ was so
Speaker 3: high even back then that was what like seven o
Speaker 3: nine something like that, and we always said we're gonna
Speaker 3: work together, and like he said.
Speaker 6: Dumb we done stuff alone the line. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 6: we knocked out other records and I came.
Speaker 5: And did something. He did something for me, playing on
Speaker 5: stuff on white Lightning and two. You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: But like when I when I finally came out of
Speaker 6: this cocoon, you know what I mean, like like this
Speaker 6: metamorphosis and be coming to like this this like I'm
Speaker 6: really a professional rapper. Like I went from being a
Speaker 6: street nigga, like a nigga that used to sell drugs
Speaker 6: and gang man and thought I was getting over on
Speaker 6: the rap industry to becoming a professional rapper, professional record
Speaker 6: So you know, coming EP, it was just at the
Speaker 6: right time where you know, I knew exactly in my mind.
Speaker 6: I knew exactly what to do, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Once we once we caught one. All it took was
Speaker 6: one because we did about four records before we caught one,
Speaker 6: and I was like, Okay, this is where we're gonna
Speaker 6: murder at.
Speaker 3: And this is still this is odd too, because we
Speaker 3: made up tempo records very very easily, and normally those
Speaker 3: are the records that are the hardest to make because
Speaker 3: people over think those records and they like, I need
Speaker 3: a hit I need to hit them and me and
Speaker 3: G was just knocking them out the park organically without
Speaker 3: even trying.
Speaker 1: That's when you use to get your best work. You
Speaker 1: know what I want to do, G, before we continue
Speaker 1: on with the album, I want to do a six
Speaker 1: to seven minute breakdown to just your history and music
Speaker 1: from where you came from to where you are at
Speaker 1: this moment, because I really feel like that this is
Speaker 1: kind of like your what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 1: This is your shining moments, oh, your grand moment right
Speaker 1: this album right here, this is the culmination of y'all
Speaker 1: work and just me seeing y'all just do what y'all
Speaker 1: do over the past few years. Right, I don't think
Speaker 1: people realized. I want them to get an appreciation. Man,
Speaker 1: you came out, Man, you came out of games Camp
Speaker 1: and had one of the biggest buzzes on the West
Speaker 1: Coast that somebody had in a long time.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because I was listening to you and I was like,
Speaker 1: I remember my boy black toning up in the shop
Speaker 1: talking about you, and then you was up there. You know.
Speaker 1: One day you was playing your record that you had
Speaker 1: with battle Cat. Yeah, you was playing with your record
Speaker 1: that you had with battle cat Man, and you know,
Speaker 1: to go from there man to having this bidding war
Speaker 1: Man that going to Sony Man, do you ever feel like, man,
Speaker 1: that you've lived a thousand lives in this industry?
Speaker 2: Shit?
Speaker 6: Before I got into the industry, just being in the streets,
Speaker 6: you know, you sell shrim and shit and you gang
Speaker 6: bang man that.
Speaker 5: You feel like you lived a thousand dollars there.
Speaker 6: So coming into the industry, you know, I really didn't
Speaker 6: know what to expect. Honestly, I really will. I really
Speaker 6: had different.
Speaker 5: Plans for myself.
Speaker 6: I wanted to have more like a death Row, like
Speaker 6: a street funded like like a dope boy funded street label,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, and put out records under there.
Speaker 6: And you know, I got through into the real major leagues,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like not like death Row.
Speaker 6: It was like, yo, you gotta make records with Lil
Speaker 6: Wayne at this point, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 6: before I even got to the industry, I felt like
Speaker 6: I lived a thousand lives. Then in the industry, I've
Speaker 6: been through hell and back, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Upside down it's nothing.
Speaker 1: So you can guys, put another project like this, right man,
Speaker 1: and you're going through what all you've been through. It's
Speaker 1: almost like you went to college. That's what it really
Speaker 1: feels like.
Speaker 6: And it's a lot more like medical school than anything, because.
Speaker 1: Actually, like you know, like you were actually in a
Speaker 1: graduate school, Like you just graduated graduate school with this
Speaker 1: right here.
Speaker 6: You know what's funny, man, I put in probably roughly
Speaker 6: purely three years on just records, just understanding what records were.
Speaker 6: Then I put in another two three years on understanding
Speaker 6: what hip hop was like being able to simplify it
Speaker 6: into one, two, three, four five. It's why we always argue,
Speaker 6: like I always, even people like you who grew up
Speaker 6: in the thick of everything, I'm like, nonfool.
Speaker 5: You just was living it.
Speaker 1: There's a real.
Speaker 6: Consistency of exactly what it is over and over again.
Speaker 6: And I feel that's why my opinion is so strong,
Speaker 6: because I gave blood up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: the same something I was doing planning, you know, I mean,
Speaker 6: I made it twenty four hours a day. And it's
Speaker 6: funny because marketing is a thing I spent the least
Speaker 6: amount of time understanding.
Speaker 5: But I felt like.
Speaker 6: I would say I have a doctorate in marketing, Like
Speaker 6: I have conversations with people with master's degree in marketing,
Speaker 6: and I'll be schooling them because they don't fucking know.
Speaker 6: I put a lot of the ideas and their wheelhouse
Speaker 6: that make it simple to term hip hop. I feel
Speaker 6: like I got a master's but but records is always something.
Speaker 6: I feel like, there's so much more to learn.
Speaker 1: Oh, what's a forever evolving thing?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 6: Like like hip hop, I feel like I don't have
Speaker 6: a ton much more to learn. It's more about feeling
Speaker 6: in some dots of history here and there.
Speaker 5: Marketing is pretty much a philosophy that.
Speaker 6: Can be evolved into however, you know, whatever place it
Speaker 6: needs to live. But records, man, it's so many fucking
Speaker 6: records to learn. And that's why, Like when I look
Speaker 6: at somebody like doctor Dre and I think about, you know,
Speaker 6: two thousand and.
Speaker 5: One, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 6: He took a picture in front of those vinyls, and
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh my god, I finally understand what it means.
Speaker 6: Even like as a as a real professional player of
Speaker 6: music and a part of a band and conductor of
Speaker 6: a band. It's like my respect for him is different
Speaker 6: because you know, you go back to guys like James Brown.
Speaker 6: Those guys have to play music to eat dinner. I
Speaker 6: just don't video shoot Saturday brought. I said, man, where
Speaker 6: was you? Where you're coming from? He said, man, I
Speaker 6: just had to play. I said, man, how awesome is
Speaker 6: that that you get to go your job? Is you
Speaker 6: actually doing what you love and you just go I
Speaker 6: want to play some music. But think about it, like
Speaker 6: when you when people look at artists like James Brown
Speaker 6: and they wonder why it worked them. Dudes was traveling
Speaker 6: around the South, you know, for two years playing music
Speaker 6: to eat dinner. Like I was telling Metro this shout
Speaker 6: out to my boy Metro with Thomas Music and his artists,
Speaker 6: and he was like, his artists were struggling to kind
Speaker 6: of cross over into the business. And I'm like, that's
Speaker 6: because they don't have to do this to eat dinner.
Speaker 6: Like even people ask me how was I able to
Speaker 6: get a deal so fast, you know, my situation with
Speaker 6: White Lightning to move so many CDs. I'm like, because
Speaker 6: they got to the point to where I was doing
Speaker 6: this to eat dinner, so there was no room.
Speaker 5: To be fucking them.
Speaker 6: I had to understand and learn what was going on,
Speaker 6: and so when I back to the records, when I
Speaker 6: when I look at him, you know, somebody like EP who.
Speaker 5: Plays, he knows what everybody's this too.
Speaker 6: When he go plays at a party, he gotta play
Speaker 6: the songs people want to dance to or they want
Speaker 6: book his ass again. And don't get me wrong, he
Speaker 6: might got now you know, if he got some royalty
Speaker 6: money and some money from other little stuff, and but
Speaker 6: he need that and you know, he need to play
Speaker 6: the music that.
Speaker 5: They want to hear.
Speaker 6: Yeah, have it you I mean, So it's nothing when
Speaker 6: he comes in there and he starts to play music
Speaker 6: to make an album, because he already playing what made
Speaker 6: people like you know, as we start working on the
Speaker 6: next project, which is gonna come back, it's gonna come
Speaker 6: together a lot faster.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: We just gonna keep focusing on what people want to
Speaker 6: hear to make them be on the dance floor and
Speaker 6: and and escape their real life for that four hours
Speaker 6: that that him and the band is playing to him
Speaker 6: and with him and Furnished and the Furnace band is
Speaker 6: playing exactly.
Speaker 1: Man. You know one of the songs on here, man,
Speaker 1: it's a testament to your marketing progress. Man, It's Kanye
Speaker 1: should have never married that bitch.
Speaker 5: Yeah, shout out to the panic at the disco. It's
Speaker 5: funny is me EP talking about that for four days?
Speaker 6: People think that was like some tongue in cheek shit
Speaker 6: where I was just like, oh, let me just talk
Speaker 6: about Kanye, and it was like, no, we made the
Speaker 6: record direct. I couldn't even have that title. The record
Speaker 6: was just the record by itself, and it was great,
Speaker 6: but it was like, Yo, like why should people care
Speaker 6: what happened to that bitch? Most of these people are
Speaker 6: not streeked, especially in today's time. So even the lingo,
Speaker 6: like when we say a bitch belongs to the street,
Speaker 6: they can't even recognize that lingo and slang itself is
Speaker 6: not as phenomenal as it once was, you know, appealing
Speaker 6: to mainstream.
Speaker 5: And I remember calling.
Speaker 6: EP telling them like, Yo, we need to figure out
Speaker 6: we need to put this in the mainstream publics, right
Speaker 6: in their perspective so they could be like, oh, that
Speaker 6: type of girl.
Speaker 5: And so we start talking.
Speaker 6: About it, and you know, I remember this nigga worked
Speaker 6: with Kanye three four five albums. I'm like shit, I
Speaker 6: was like, this motherfucker got the perfect motherfucker. He's like, well,
Speaker 6: you know what, gee niggo, He'll be all right, it's cool,
Speaker 6: this is what we're doing. And I remember just reading
Speaker 6: so many old titles, them long titles Panic at the Disco.
Speaker 5: I was in high school when that shit came out,
Speaker 5: and I remember just these long ass titles.
Speaker 6: And I was thinking, like you only have when you
Speaker 6: look on a playlist on Spotify, though you don't even
Speaker 6: get to see the picture. The picture is tiny, The
Speaker 6: oniest name is tiny. The only thing you can see
Speaker 6: is the title of the song, like, yo, we need
Speaker 6: something long as fuck. So when people read it, they like,
Speaker 6: what the fuck kind of you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: And yeah, but it wasn't like some people like to
Speaker 6: call a term. I think I used to hear all
Speaker 6: the time it's clickbait, and it's like, that's not clickbait,
Speaker 6: that bitch really belongs to the street.
Speaker 1: Well, actually, what you did, man, is you discovered seo
Speaker 1: as well. That's a long tail keyword that you created.
Speaker 1: You know kind should have never made.
Speaker 4: That's a conversation pieces piece.
Speaker 1: You created a long tail keyword, man, And I won't
Speaker 1: you know, get in that. That's a whole nother science, right.
Speaker 1: But I noticed, I said man, the titles that you
Speaker 1: come up with, you don't waste you don't waste space. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you take everything serious. I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: when I've talked to a lot of the other homies,
Speaker 1: a lot of the you know, other rappers in La Man,
Speaker 1: she is dope. He just overthink stuff. I say, no,
Speaker 1: he's not really overthinking and he's just doing it right.
Speaker 1: He's striving for perfection or really just trying to reach
Speaker 1: their violent records.
Speaker 6: Man, because everybody else feel like if they put out
Speaker 6: a thousand records, they get there. That's the point where
Speaker 6: records it really take one, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Nobody got there with a thousand records. It still only
Speaker 6: took one.
Speaker 5: We can talk about a thousand records. It took one.
Speaker 6: You feel me, Like Michael Jackson is still thriller. It
Speaker 6: take one, you know what I'm saying. So everyone deserves
Speaker 6: Dre says something that's really dope. Everything's important. I spell
Speaker 6: them with two e's everything's important. With the E it's
Speaker 6: E square. Everything's important. So if I can't take a
Speaker 6: little extra time to figure out the title, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, it's one song something like we're doing
Speaker 6: all this content for people to discover this dope ass music.
Speaker 5: It's gonna take.
Speaker 6: One song at one time, and when that one time happened,
Speaker 6: that song.
Speaker 5: Need to have layers.
Speaker 1: Exactly believe that. I believe that because that one song
Speaker 1: is going to bring everybody back to your previous releases
Speaker 1: and go have them anticipate in everything that you put
Speaker 1: out in the future. So it's definitely a very important thing. Man.
Speaker 1: I think people underestimate.
Speaker 5: Man, the motherfucker live right now to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was this live right now, man, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and get this out there to the people. Man,
Speaker 1: I want each one of y'all tell these people why
Speaker 1: they need to go out there and stream this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: We mean, you both talked about the importance and shit
Speaker 1: and making it matter, Like why why should people go
Speaker 1: stream this album?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 6: My mind, Man, it's the voice of the barbershop. Don't
Speaker 6: be scared. It's the same thing we're saying the barbershop.
Speaker 6: I'm just telling the rest of these I'm just telling
Speaker 6: the white people. Man, they just didn't know. I'm making
Speaker 6: sure they know. So you ain't gotta deal with the
Speaker 6: embarrassment of saying the same thing we're saying the barbershop
Speaker 6: to the white people. So I'm representing you. Just let me,
Speaker 6: you know, go listen to it and be like, yeah,
Speaker 6: he represented you. Ain't gotta even tell nobody else.
Speaker 4: Just you know, it's true, and it's conversation.
Speaker 3: It's conversation over quality music too, and we ain't trying
Speaker 3: to sound like nobody else.
Speaker 4: We cultivating our own sound.
Speaker 3: We got the drums up today, wrapped in music and melody,
Speaker 3: and there's no way you can beat that.
Speaker 1: No way at all. Man. You know I was talked
Speaker 1: about those physical copies. Early physical copies are available of
Speaker 1: the album right now, signed.
Speaker 5: Dot com, man store dot com.
Speaker 1: You need to head over to the cryptstore dot com.
Speaker 1: This is what you need to do. You need to
Speaker 1: go on order you a T shirt. You need to
Speaker 1: go on order a ball cap, you know, so you
Speaker 1: can listen to the record and stop.
Speaker 6: That you called it because of ball cap. Well you
Speaker 6: is country, you know what I get it. But that's
Speaker 6: like when niggas say pop Pop of the club.
Speaker 5: You'd be like, oh, we're going to.
Speaker 4: The hot the movies, the pictures show, the pictures show.
Speaker 6: You call your TV shows, You call your TV shows programs.
Speaker 6: I'm watching my program. That's what we need to write next,
Speaker 6: a program.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to write program for real. So, so,
Speaker 1: what's going on with the cryptstore dot com?
Speaker 5: Bro fires man, just all the crippiest crip ship you
Speaker 5: could add.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm working I'm working on.
Speaker 6: I'm working on making sure I create one of the
Speaker 6: greatest experiences for the average every day con similar to
Speaker 6: feel crippy and get cript out and enjoy the culture,
Speaker 6: you know, without having to dive for it.
Speaker 5: So come support the cryptstore dot Com.
Speaker 1: Exactly because at this crypt story, everybody is welcome. We're
Speaker 1: welcome me.
Speaker 6: You know, I got so many, so many in my
Speaker 6: blood homies that hate crips, you know them niggas hate crips.
Speaker 6: But they was like glasses, I got you, so you
Speaker 6: know it takes me back. It's my personal trap. It
Speaker 6: feel good to have a trap again, feel good to
Speaker 6: have my own spot again.
Speaker 1: Man, for sure, for sure, man, I'm gonna go stream
Speaker 1: this album man, because you know what's so funny is management.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I feel like I never get to enjoy just the
Speaker 1: floor for that because I always hear the pieces. I
Speaker 1: hear five or six different versions of songs and sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't even know who's version, and you put out
Speaker 1: to ast here.
Speaker 6: That's what you do to this, what you do to
Speaker 6: a different But some of the greatest things in the
Speaker 6: world is fooling you, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 6: your mind is so good with this this ship, and
Speaker 6: you're you're really good at records of hip hop and marketing,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. But some of the best
Speaker 6: part is when I get you what.
Speaker 5: The fuck is that?
Speaker 4: I know what that is?
Speaker 1: You know year stuff that y'all do, and I like,
Speaker 1: I know what they need. They need something different, but
Speaker 1: I can't catch it, and I all I want to
Speaker 1: tell him because he'd be.
Speaker 6: Like, no, you ain't got a big go you lost
Speaker 6: your thorns, big bro, you ain't got your record.
Speaker 2: Here no more.
Speaker 1: I'll be hearing it, man, that's what I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put my bluetooth phone. Man, I'm gonna put my Beach
Speaker 1: By Draise here. Man, I'm about to jam this.
Speaker 5: Mother, I'm gone enjoy. Man, Thank you for having me
Speaker 5: once again.
Speaker 1: We double back, sure, and I'm gonna tell y'all like this,
Speaker 1: this is big steeal breakdown on the record. Man, it's
Speaker 1: a sham and ass record.
Speaker 5: That's what I promise you that it is.
Speaker 6: It is a really killer Mike said he got the
Speaker 6: album of the year. I think my album on Killing
Speaker 6: Mike album right now. Yeah, I gotta kind of slam
Speaker 6: back to back and compare him. I might do that
Speaker 6: a live but like what Kill Mike? What Killer Mike
Speaker 6: has a substance my album. You know, my album makes
Speaker 6: up with attitude?
Speaker 1: Man. I told eight and Soaring Baker's were doing the
Speaker 1: top fifty gangster rap albums of all time, and it's
Speaker 1: getting kind of heated as we come towards you know,
Speaker 1: those like Final twenty, those Top twenty, because there have
Speaker 1: been so many just classic albums, and really, man, hearing
Speaker 1: this album, I really believe man, that this album when
Speaker 1: it came out fight even a month ago, we'd be
Speaker 1: having a whole different conversation. I'm even thinking about throwing
Speaker 1: it in there. That's why I want to listen to
Speaker 1: it to night in this entirety. And I want to
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to seem biased, because see
Speaker 1: when I talk about you were eight, I don't want
Speaker 1: nobody thinking of he's just saying that because he got this. No,
Speaker 1: it ain't like that.
Speaker 6: I'm very honest, it might be top Yeah, I don't
Speaker 6: know that's that's I don't know.
Speaker 1: If it's top twenty, bro, but it's for sure.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I was banging more than the
Speaker 6: shadiest one, but I'm sure y'all don't have the shadiest
Speaker 6: one in this proper position.
Speaker 1: So I don't know the shadiest one is actually one
Speaker 1: of our records in that though, top Man. That's to
Speaker 1: wait and find out, like everybody.
Speaker 5: Okay, So it's somewhere in the top twenty five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somewhere okay.
Speaker 6: Long because if it wasn't in the top twenty five,
Speaker 6: I wasn't gonna I was gonna disregard y'all opinion completely.
Speaker 1: You know it is man Dubb put his foot in this,
Speaker 1: But I would say, man to cancel these nuts. Man,
Speaker 1: I think you know it's hard to defind it. See,
Speaker 1: I don't believe in calling the record the classic, Man
Speaker 1: until it's been out. You don't know if it's in
Speaker 1: the classic to ten years down the line.
Speaker 6: Well to me, it ain't even I don't even use
Speaker 6: that term no more because I don't know if we
Speaker 6: have the time for it. But what I definitely want
Speaker 6: to do is make it a timestamp of twenty twenty
Speaker 6: three and twenty four. I want you to feel like, eventually,
Speaker 6: somewhere along the line, this album had to mean something
Speaker 6: to you or represented something, or you didn't like something
Speaker 6: about it during that time. And I think that that
Speaker 6: becomes the goal now that we got it out, because
Speaker 6: we didn't do a ton of marketing up front. What's
Speaker 6: funny is we just start marketing and idea this week
Speaker 6: and people starting to see the ideas and like it's
Speaker 6: crazy to watch them come to life and people just
Speaker 6: be enamored, like wow, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And we just I can say one thing is doing
Speaker 3: is bringing back the feeling of man, uh, I'm glad
Speaker 3: you saying it.
Speaker 4: Somebody needs to say.
Speaker 3: It's hands down is getting that reaction so I can.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely a recovery mission. It's not a discovery
Speaker 6: mission like hip hop used to be. It's more of
Speaker 6: a like recovering the thing that the West Coast represented.
Speaker 1: So yeah, for sure we got I know, we got
Speaker 1: a few people on this platform. So this is what
Speaker 1: I need y'all to do. Go to the description. They're
Speaker 1: going to be links in there. I need y'all to
Speaker 1: head over to the cryptstore dot com going to get
Speaker 1: your you know, your start a little set.
Speaker 6: They got cassettes, flash drives, autograph CDs, line on, some
Speaker 6: close everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah for all y'all niggas out there that still got
Speaker 1: boomboxes in your run got you you know, and it
Speaker 1: was a great collector pieces too. But everything is down there.
Speaker 1: I want you, guys man to go really stream the
Speaker 1: album right, leave a comment like you hip on his Instagram.
Speaker 1: Leave let him know what you think.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that'll let us know you get eddp in them comments.
Speaker 6: That'll let us know where we should be going next
Speaker 6: next run.
Speaker 5: I mean where we're going.
Speaker 6: I got an idea for sure, but I just I
Speaker 6: would love to see y'all opinion on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. And this is against the Chronicles and
Speaker 1: we signing off, so chanst the Rap Chronicles. I knew
Speaker 1: you was gonna say that for some reason. And we
Speaker 1: out of here piece. Yeah,