WEBVTT - #thisleague UNCUT:  Celtics force a Game 7 and Nikola Jokić forces a whole league to take notice

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to this League Uncut in the rule of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hour NBA News. This's you, Chris Haynes. It's time, Markstein,

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<v Speaker 1>It's some time. This League Uncut is underway and on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>This should be a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Friends, Welcome to another edition of This League Uncut. Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Stein here, of course, accompanied by Chris Haynes from Turner Sports.

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<v Speaker 2>We did not arrive at the name of this show

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<v Speaker 2>by accident. Hashtag this League is obviously a huge part

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<v Speaker 2>of the show title, and this Thursday night in the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA was a This League kind of night. Man the

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<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia seventy six Ers up three to two, a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to close out the Boston Celtics at home move on

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<v Speaker 2>to the conference finals for the first time since two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and one. Jason Tatum misses thirteen of his first

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen shots. This thing was set up for Philly to

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<v Speaker 2>finally finally get past the second round hurdle, get back

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<v Speaker 2>to the final four, and really give themselves a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to win a championship. And what happens. Tatum goes nuts

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<v Speaker 2>in the fourth quarter when it looked like he couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>win a shooting contest against Fresno pacifics Chris Haynes Tatum

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<v Speaker 2>goes wild in the fourth, Boston Storms back wins, evens

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<v Speaker 2>the series, forces a game seven, and then it gets

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<v Speaker 2>even crazier in the night cap with the Phoenix Suns

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<v Speaker 2>trying to save their season. No DeAndre Ayton because of

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<v Speaker 2>a rib contusion, No Chris Paul who's been out for

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<v Speaker 2>several games with a groin injury. Phoenix in an elimination

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<v Speaker 2>just like last season. Phoenix goes down by thirty at

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<v Speaker 2>the half. A year ago, Game seven at home, second

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<v Speaker 2>Round against Dallas at halftime, Phoenix down fifty seven twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Tonight at home, Game six, have to win to force

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<v Speaker 2>a Game seven in Denver. The halftime score Nuggets eighty one,

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<v Speaker 2>Sons fifty one. Game basically over at halftime. Denver rolls

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<v Speaker 2>on to win comfortably and ussure the Phoenix Suns to

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<v Speaker 2>their own off season of discomfort, where the Boston Philly

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<v Speaker 2>loser is headed, where the Milwaukee Bucks are now, and

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<v Speaker 2>where so many other teams in the league are After

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<v Speaker 2>a season where you had a number of clubs go

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<v Speaker 2>all in to try to chase the championship, and my man,

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<v Speaker 2>my man Howard back he had a great line in GQ,

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<v Speaker 2>he called it the Age of Chaos, a fitting summary

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<v Speaker 2>for where we are and a fitting summary for this

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday night. Wow, let's start with the first of tonight's surprises.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Haynes, I'm gonna be honest with you. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>Philly was winning this game. There was nothing pregame that

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<v Speaker 2>you were I was just I didn't want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>about a Boston bounce back. I know they did it.

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<v Speaker 2>They won at Milwaukee in the exact same situation last season,

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<v Speaker 2>down three to two, needed to win a Game six

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<v Speaker 2>on the road to have a shot to extend the

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<v Speaker 2>series and win in seven. But you know the Bucks

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have Middleton. I just I thought Philly went to

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<v Speaker 2>a new place by winning Game five in Boston. They've

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<v Speaker 2>won twice in Boston already in this series. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>are we are we now going to say that the

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<v Speaker 2>We're now going to ask the Sixers to win a

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<v Speaker 2>third road game in Boston to get out of this rounde.

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<v Speaker 2>I just all the frailties of these two teams, they

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<v Speaker 2>were all on display tonight on both sides. But Jason Tatum,

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<v Speaker 2>when it looked like just going to be the worst

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<v Speaker 2>night of his life and the worst off season of

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<v Speaker 2>his life, brilliant in that fourth quarter. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I putting my hand up. Didn't see it coming, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I really didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>No, huh, Well, you're not alone. I didn't expect them

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<v Speaker 3>to beat the Sixers at their place at all. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought the Sixers had their number. I thought the Celtics

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<v Speaker 3>were mentally out of it, didn't have I just think

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't have the answers. But they had the answers

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<v Speaker 3>in the fourth quarters. Jayson Tatum for sure came through.

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<v Speaker 3>And can they win? Can the Sixers win a third

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<v Speaker 3>game in Boston? That is a lot to ask. That

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<v Speaker 3>is a lot to ask. Boston is not easy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a good series though, definitely a good series. If

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<v Speaker 3>I was a betting man, which I'm not. If I

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<v Speaker 3>was a betting man, I would just have to favor

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<v Speaker 3>the home team. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>confident about that pick. But it's Game seven, it's in Boston.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why, that's why the regular season is so important,

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<v Speaker 3>so you can have the home court advantage. But I

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<v Speaker 3>know Philly, having already won two already, they go in,

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<v Speaker 3>they go into Boston with confidence. But I don't like

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<v Speaker 3>the way it looks they had a golden opportunity to

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<v Speaker 3>sell it Game six at home that definitely could have

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<v Speaker 3>cost him a series.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just getting to the conference finals would have

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<v Speaker 2>been demons would have been exercised in Philly. And now

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<v Speaker 2>for the next twenty four plus hours, they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to hear it all again. I mean Doc Rivers like

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<v Speaker 2>it or not, there is no getting around his record.

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<v Speaker 2>Doc Rivers is seventeen and thirty two in elimination games.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know Embiid only had two points no rebounds

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<v Speaker 2>in the last six minutes. So Harden is taking all

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<v Speaker 2>the heat for how poorly he played, But it's not

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna be on him.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>The Sixers. They haven't been to the conference finals since

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<v Speaker 2>the days of the Answer, since I was in my

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<v Speaker 2>beat writing infancy that was. I mean I had six

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<v Speaker 2>seven years in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's it's Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they look, they made the finals and they lost

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<v Speaker 2>to the Lakers. But I mean just that team won

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<v Speaker 2>the East, and you know that was Iverson at the

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<v Speaker 2>peak of his powers, and it's been more than two

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<v Speaker 2>decades and tonight was the night, and it just look

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<v Speaker 2>this this whole season has been bonkers, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just night after night after night, we just keep finding

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<v Speaker 2>out that we think we know these teams, and this year,

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<v Speaker 2>more than ever, we don't know these teams. So I

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<v Speaker 2>guess if there's ever gonna be a year where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we get shocked again and Philly wins this series, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they win a third row game and win a Game

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<v Speaker 2>seven in Boston. Look, I guess anything is possible this season,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm just psychologically I can't wait to see what

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<v Speaker 2>this team looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>This, they know the opportunity that was squandered tonight, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure as we're taping this on Thursday night, they

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<v Speaker 2>are They're in agony. It was teed up for them

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<v Speaker 2>so beautifully in a series that statistically, in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of ways Boston has dominated. I mean, Boston is plus

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight for the series. This series should have been over,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, it was Philly with the chance to close

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<v Speaker 2>it out tonight. And I think in sports we tend

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<v Speaker 2>to we tend to say Team A can't get over lost,

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<v Speaker 2>be they'll never recover. It was so gruesome, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think teams routinely surprise us. But man, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said this, there are so many psychological layers here

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<v Speaker 2>for Embiid, for Doc Rivers, for Harden, I can't wait

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<v Speaker 2>to see. I'd love to see improved me wrong, But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm skeptical in the extreme for m.

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<v Speaker 4>B, the MVP winner.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you look at, on the other hand, what

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<v Speaker 3>the Joker is doing, dominating quietly as he always does so,

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<v Speaker 3>and B would definitely get his share of criticism, probably

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<v Speaker 3>the most criticism of his career. If they don't pull

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<v Speaker 3>this out. You know, there'll be a lot to be

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<v Speaker 3>had Rivers as you as you said, the track record

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<v Speaker 3>speaks for itself. So there's a lot of stake for

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<v Speaker 3>the sisters, a lot of state going into that final game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just man and yeah, and you know as

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<v Speaker 2>we speak, I mean, that's the thing. These HiT's so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>It's how quickly things can change. Because Jokic won the

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<v Speaker 2>last two MVPs, and coming into the season, there was

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<v Speaker 2>all this talk that voter for tigue, voters are not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna want to vote for him a third time, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is truth to that. I think voters

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<v Speaker 2>were not gonna give it to him unless it was

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute, unequivocal slam dunk. But the whole second half

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<v Speaker 2>of the season, of the regular season, the conversation changed,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was not just that Embiid was the likely winner,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was proven to be correct. Embiid did win

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<v Speaker 2>his first MVP, but it was that these playoffs were

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<v Speaker 2>going to become a referendum on Jokic's last two seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I don't want to get into a

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<v Speaker 2>huge all night MVP debate, but I mean, I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta, I gotta say it. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Jokic has he's shutting a lot of people up right

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<v Speaker 2>now because you know, they're going to the conference finals

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<v Speaker 2>for the second time in four years. And as I

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<v Speaker 2>keep pointing out, the two times in that four year

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<v Speaker 2>stretch they didn't go Jamal Murray was injured, he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have his second best player. First of all, the Nuggets

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<v Speaker 2>don't even have a second All Star. Jamal Murray, Michael Porter, Junior,

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Gordon all excellent. They've got a better bench than

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<v Speaker 2>they've had, but there's no All Star there. Jamal Murray

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<v Speaker 2>still has not made an All Star Game. So Jokic

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<v Speaker 2>took all this heat all season long for his suppose

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<v Speaker 2>d playoff failures, and it's like, okay, what you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the last two times he's had a squad, he's in

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<v Speaker 2>the conference finals. They lost to the Lakers in the bubble,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's see what happens in these Western Conference finals.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean you said it. I mean this is

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<v Speaker 2>the list of I think, the list of teams that

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<v Speaker 2>are at this crossroads. It just keeps getting longer and

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<v Speaker 2>longer and longer. I'm gonna have to count it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're getting close to half the league worth

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<v Speaker 2>of teams that are all facing these really uncomfortable off

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<v Speaker 2>seasons and and tough roster decisions. But you know Philly's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be at the top of that list. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Harden and Doc Rivers are their play the past playoff failures.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's going to be that's all they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>hear here about. And Joel Embiid, Yeah, when you win

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<v Speaker 2>the MVP but your team underachieves in the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 2>and you know you're the Sixers are up three too,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to finish the series off. You just have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't want to go too far down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>But if they don't, you know, this is a this

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<v Speaker 3>is a team that can go through a similar situation

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<v Speaker 3>like the Milwaukee Bucks, where they might they could change coaches,

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<v Speaker 3>they could James Harden's future is in doubt. There, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>where does Philly go from there? Are they going into

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<v Speaker 3>the next season? Will they be a championship contending team?

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's a lot, you know, there's a lot that

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<v Speaker 3>will dissect you in this league because at the appropriate time.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, we've been talking about this for ages now,

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<v Speaker 2>but the reason we talk about it so much is

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<v Speaker 2>because the chatter is out there. When you talk to

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<v Speaker 2>other teams, they I mean, you know, I did. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to remember. I've done quite a few radio shows

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<v Speaker 2>here lately, so I can't remember which one it was,

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<v Speaker 2>but one of my recent one of my recent radio appearances,

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<v Speaker 2>they said, you know, do you think do you think

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<v Speaker 2>James Harden to Houston is real? And my answer to

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<v Speaker 2>that is, we don't know yet if it's real, But

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<v Speaker 2>there's enough smoke that teams around the league watching this

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<v Speaker 2>situation are convinced that the Rockets are serious about going

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<v Speaker 2>after Harden in free agency and pursuing a reunion, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one kind of cautionary note or you know

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<v Speaker 2>where I'd say, let's just wait and see a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I am intensely curious as I get ready

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<v Speaker 2>to go to Chicago for Tuesday's Draft lottery. For once,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be somewhere and you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be somewhere. That's the first time that's happened in ages

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm somewhere important and you have to check in

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<v Speaker 2>with me to see how it was. What if Houston

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<v Speaker 2>wins the draft lottery, if they get web Bin Yama,

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<v Speaker 2>do they really still want to pursue James Harden or

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<v Speaker 2>do they make it all about wem Ben Yama's timeline

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<v Speaker 2>at that point? And you know, I guess, uh, if

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<v Speaker 2>that happens, the Rockets will have to answer that question.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I think just using common sense, they get

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<v Speaker 3>that kid, you build around him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would think so, I mean if they get

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<v Speaker 2>if the Rockets win the lottery, to me, I I

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<v Speaker 2>don't look, I've questioned their interest in the hardened reunion anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know the Rockets want to win that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they've just endured the three worst seasons in franchise history.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to be a rebuilding team anymore. James Harden,

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<v Speaker 2>by all accounts when you plug into the grapevine, his

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<v Speaker 2>interest in going back home. There are legit reasons for

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<v Speaker 2>him to want that. So yeah, it's gonna it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a very loud and noisy offseason in Philly if

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<v Speaker 2>they can't go to Boston and surprise us yet again.

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<v Speaker 2>But this whole series, man's like, like I said, when

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<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee went out out Philly Boston, to me the winner,

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<v Speaker 2>that was your favorite to win it all, and they've

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<v Speaker 2>both been so shaky in this series. I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>sure I'm picking the winner to beat Miami. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think Miami will close out the Knicks in Game six.

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Butler is playing the basketball of his life and

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<v Speaker 2>they got spoke coaching. I'm not sure. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>I'm picking Boston or Philly to beat Miami. I'm really not.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know you're assuming that that series is over.

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<v Speaker 2>Stone, Yeah, I am, that is the one. I mean, Well, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been wrong, left, right and center with my picks

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<v Speaker 2>here lately, so I am though, I do you know,

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<v Speaker 2>no disrespect to the Knicks they did what they had

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<v Speaker 2>to do in Game five to extend that series. I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't think a veteran Miami team is going to

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<v Speaker 2>do what Philly did tonight and squander the close out chance.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't. I just don't think Spoe and Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>Butler will let that happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I would. I would agree with you. I would agree

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<v Speaker 3>with you. I'm just just starting something.

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<v Speaker 2>You always like to You like to just sit there

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<v Speaker 2>and jab me, because you know it's easy. I know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm easy.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd like to see how you react.

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<v Speaker 2>You know I'm easy. Pray in ad. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>think what we saw tonight probably gets Miami even more

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<v Speaker 2>ready to you know, the Knicks. The Knicks have had

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<v Speaker 2>a great run to me this, You know, the Knicks

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<v Speaker 2>fans don't want to hear any of this. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to win the series and go to the Conference finals

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<v Speaker 2>in the first time in forever. But you know, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>even if the Knicks are out after Friday night, even

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<v Speaker 2>if Miami finishes that thing in six, I think tremendous

0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:54.560
<v Speaker 2>season in New York, Jalen Brunson found yet another level

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<v Speaker 2>improved for the fifth straight season and or maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth straight season. You can't really improve on your rookie season.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're gonna keep They're gonna keep building that thing.

0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.439
<v Speaker 2>They've got so many pieces to make upgrades. The Knicks

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<v Speaker 2>have a tremendous future no matter what happens. So if

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<v Speaker 2>I am prematurely writing them off, I'm sure, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna hear about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you will, Oh for sure you will. Yeah, no

0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:19.920
<v Speaker 4>doubt about that.

0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Mister Haynes. Let's move west now, because for me, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>what we saw out of this game Denver at Phoenix

0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:39.480
<v Speaker 2>in Game six, I think it's almost crazier than the

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<v Speaker 2>events in Philly tonight. Yes, much closer game in Philly,

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<v Speaker 2>but that this could be so one sided that the

0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Sun's season could end this way the same way it

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<v Speaker 2>did last season. I really, I really thought, even without

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<v Speaker 2>DeAndre and Chris Paul, that the Sons at home had

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<v Speaker 2>a more than decent chance of forcing a Game seven.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we're constantly on the search for a

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<v Speaker 2>true favorite in the league, and like I said, Boston

0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.800
<v Speaker 2>and Philly have both been so shaky in that series that,

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<v Speaker 2>like I told myself, I gotta stop saying that the

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<v Speaker 2>winner is the favorite to win it all because neither

0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.199
<v Speaker 2>one of those teams are playing well enough to deserve

0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.560
<v Speaker 2>that mantle. The Nuggets, on the other hand, unbeaten at

0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:30.359
<v Speaker 2>home in these playoffs. They closed out the Wolves in five,

0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:35.800
<v Speaker 2>they closed out the Suns in six, and mister Jokic

0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.479
<v Speaker 2>doing just fine as the non MVP this season.

0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:45.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he's looking like the MVP he is again.

0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.240
<v Speaker 3>He is doing it quietly. That's that's his game. He

0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:51.399
<v Speaker 3>dominates quietly his game. You're not going to see it

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<v Speaker 3>on many highlights except for probably his passing, but one

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<v Speaker 3>to truly, one truly, one of the most dominant players

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<v Speaker 3>have in the league right now, arguably the most dominant

0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:09.480
<v Speaker 3>only offensive end. With that being said, I picked Phoenix

0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.040
<v Speaker 3>to win this series. Matter of fact, I take it

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<v Speaker 3>a step further. I picked Phoenix to win it.

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<v Speaker 2>All, and I warned you not to do so. You

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<v Speaker 2>did you?

0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.919
<v Speaker 3>You wasn't on the bandwagon. You didn't you didn't pick Phoenix.

0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, huh, I think I think I think I

0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.639
<v Speaker 2>think I did warn you that. It just wasn't enough time.

0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:31.920
<v Speaker 2>It just it wasn't.

0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:37.640
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't. But it's KD, It's Devin Booker, It's Chris Paul,

0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:42.800
<v Speaker 3>and I felt like if anybody can mesh in that timeframe,

0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:44.879
<v Speaker 3>it would be those guys because of their talent and

0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:49.800
<v Speaker 3>their IQ. But KD went out with that injury towards

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the regular season, was out an extended period,

0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:59.119
<v Speaker 3>miss time, Chris Paul with the growing injury, last two games,

0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:03.680
<v Speaker 3>miss the last two game to the series, and they

0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:06.439
<v Speaker 3>just didn't have the depth. They didn't they didn't have

0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.600
<v Speaker 3>the depth. And I still you know, it's one thing, Stein,

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<v Speaker 3>if if the public would allow me to make a

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<v Speaker 3>pick at the regular season and make a pick at

0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 3>the postseason and allow me to stick with my pick,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be fine. Like if I had the chance to

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<v Speaker 3>change my pick after the first round, I probably would

0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.400
<v Speaker 3>have changed it, Stein, but I'm sticking with my pick.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sticking with the pick I had in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't comfortable with the pick.

0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.679
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't confident with the pick, but I stuck with it. No.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, and first of all, I'm the same. Once I

0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.520
<v Speaker 2>make a pick, you can't you can't change it. I mean,

0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 2>you just you know, Milwaukee was my pick to win

0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:45.680
<v Speaker 2>it all this season, and you know, there you go.

0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:49.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean gone in Round one. I mean they were

0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.160
<v Speaker 2>down forty four to twenty six after a quarter tonight.

0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this thing is a mess. This is an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute It was hard.

0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:56.520
<v Speaker 4>It was hard.

0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Crops to the Denver Nuggets, who I think will now

0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:06.200
<v Speaker 2>get some incredible shine because again they've been they've got

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 2>a real home court advantage, they've lived up to the

0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:12.800
<v Speaker 2>one number one seed so far. Again that the last

0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:15.840
<v Speaker 2>six plus weeks the regular season was nothing. But Jokic

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:19.200
<v Speaker 2>better do it in the playoffs or his MVPs are invalidated,

0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 2>even though MVP is a regular season award. But that pressure,

0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:27.879
<v Speaker 2>if it's bothered Jokic, you can't tell one iota that

0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:31.119
<v Speaker 2>it's it's bothered him. And they go to Phoenix and

0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:34.640
<v Speaker 2>win by twenty five to close the thing out, and

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<v Speaker 2>now it's just, you know, put the Suns right there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know again, I'm I'm i gotta stop prematurely putting

0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Philly there, because the Sixers could win a Game seven

0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:49.920
<v Speaker 2>in Boston, but the Sun season is over, and they

0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:53.800
<v Speaker 2>go right up there with Milwaukee and Dallas and Portland

0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:57.360
<v Speaker 2>and anybody else you want to name for these teams

0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 2>that have to be looking at major, major, major changes.

0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:06.359
<v Speaker 2>DeAndre Ayton can't see him playing another game in Phoenix.

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think there's some question about what sort

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 2>of market he would have with three years left on

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.600
<v Speaker 2>his deal he's on. You know, this was only year

0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:17.280
<v Speaker 2>one of the one hundred and thirty three million dollar

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 2>deal that he got after doing an offer sheet with

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:24.080
<v Speaker 2>the Pacers and the Suns matched. But he's a former

0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:27.359
<v Speaker 2>number one pick, a recent former number one pick. A

0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:33.159
<v Speaker 2>market will emerge, and you know, I uh, I just

0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:35.879
<v Speaker 2>think they're gonna move him. You know, Chris Paul is

0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:40.639
<v Speaker 2>a harder call. Chris Paul's contract is easier to trade

0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:44.600
<v Speaker 2>financially because there's only a sixteen million dollar guarantee a

0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:49.159
<v Speaker 2>little shy, a sixteen million partial guarantee for next season.

0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:55.880
<v Speaker 2>The fourth season completely non guaranteed. So theoretically Chris Paul

0:22:55.920 --> 0:23:00.440
<v Speaker 2>should be easier to move than DeAndre Ayden. But I think, look,

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:02.360
<v Speaker 2>they may end up looking to move both of them.

0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 2>But I think I think eight and eight and there

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 2>has to be a fresh start. I mean, it's just

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:11.919
<v Speaker 2>it's just gotten way too tense. Uh, you know, I

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 2>think on both sides there and I do think there

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 2>will be some sort of action, but you know, they

0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 2>gave up so much to get Kevin Durant, and I

0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 2>think they found that. You know, they decimated the depth

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:33.879
<v Speaker 2>around him to get him. And you know then you

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 2>got Durant and Booker only playing, Durant only playing eight

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 2>games before the playoffs. It's just just too hard to

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 2>throw it together on the fly with with the a

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 2>deb you know, and and as good as Denver.

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Is, let me, you know, I agree with most of

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:57.639
<v Speaker 3>your the points you made. But can a case also

0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 3>be made that this group just hasn't played together love

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 3>enough and that you give them one more run, give them,

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 3>give them another him one full season, even bringing Ayton

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 3>back one full season to see what this team can do, can't.

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Can a case be made? Can a vala case be

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<v Speaker 4>made for that scenario?

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I think to a degree it can. But the nature

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 2>of this loss was so one sided after a one

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:32.159
<v Speaker 2>sided loss last season, so I think there has to

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:37.679
<v Speaker 2>be a significant change of some sort. You know, based

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:41.960
<v Speaker 2>on everything I've heard, I think Matt Ishbia, the new owner,

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 2>is a MANI Williams fan. I don't I don't see

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 2>that this. I don't see this being laid at the

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 2>coach's feet, even though they're non competitive in this huge

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 2>game six.

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 4>Whose feet star?

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I think eight and be the first

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:02.959
<v Speaker 2>one to go. I'm actually gonna break one of my rules.

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't like to do fake trades, but I think

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 2>today I might actually lob a fake trade into the

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.479
<v Speaker 2>ether completely fake trade.

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 3>Should should What I mean this is this league uncut,

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 3>is not this league cut.

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 2>But you know that's not a you know that's not

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:24.439
<v Speaker 2>really a function of this league uncut or not. Like,

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't like to do fake trades because we're counted

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 2>on as league insiders to report actual moves, and like,

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't like to hypothesize about, hey, this would be

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 2>a great trade, because again I don't want to confuse

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:44.199
<v Speaker 2>it with when we report the real deal. But in

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 2>this case, I am gonna get swept up in the

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 2>pod moment here.

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 4>You're making me nervous.

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm making you nervous.

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 4>Though we switching size.

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 2>DeAndre Ayton to the Dallas Mavericks to hook up with

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 2>his buddy Luka Doncic. Hypothetical fake trade. This is purely

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:13.959
<v Speaker 2>an idea. Eighten to the MAVs for a package that

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 2>would that would feature, first of all, Dallas has to

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 2>keep its number ten pick in the lottery. If the

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 2>MAVs fall to eleven in the lottery, that pick goes

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 2>to the Knicks. So if the MAVs can retain that pick,

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 2>you package the player they draft at number ten because

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 2>that pick the MAVs. The MAVs have to make that pick,

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 2>and such a trade would have to be executed after

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 2>the draft. They can't do it beforehand. But you package

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>number ten with Tim Hardaway, Junior, MAXI Kliba, whatever other

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:59.199
<v Speaker 2>contracts are needed to make the math work. And hypothetically,

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<v Speaker 2>I do wonder if there would be interest in the

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Phoenix side from that. I I, you know, Ayton is

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>a former number one pick, but I don't know how

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 2>high his stock is. Maybe maybe they can do better

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>than that, but I'm not so sure they can do

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 2>better than that. And I think the Suns and Ayton,

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:22.639
<v Speaker 2>I think both sides need a fresh start. Luka Donca

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 2>and Aytan they've they're from the same draft class, and

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I I, you know, I think their buddies. I think

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>there is a fondness there. So, you know, I could

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 2>see two teams and they do they do share. Mister

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Bill Duffy is an agent so I you know, I think, uh,

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I think that's two teams that need need to shake up.

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 2>And so again, throwing that one out there purely as

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 2>a hypothetical, as a maybe, as a concoction, in my mind,

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 2>not even a maybe. It's a full, full on concoction.

0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 4>Uh. I'm just looking at four.

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:04.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at some fake news right now. Stein, I'm

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 3>looking at Dwight Howard. I'm gonna send this to you

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 3>and Ryan. Dwight Howard just posted. I guess he failed

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 3>for it because it's definitely fake. So he failed for

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 3>a fake quote and he posted on He posted it

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 3>on Instagram. It's a quote supposedly, it's supposed to be

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 3>from Chris Paul. The quote is, if I don't win

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 3>the ring with KD, I'm going to Taiwan with Dwight Howard.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 3>It's so Dwight Dwight posted this fake Cobbat say a

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 3>CP three, what we're doing here? We gotta be better.

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 3>We gotta be better. Come on, dw we gotta be better.

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 3>I do not that's that's something Chris Paul would not say.

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:52.239
<v Speaker 3>But we gotta be better. Man eight years yeah, and

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 3>for him, Stein, that's right, Oh man, this was I

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 3>remember when I remember when they picked up KD. He

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 3>said he's never had a situation like this where he

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 3>could just get out the way you know, he told

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 3>he told me he's been wanting to play off the

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 3>ball for a minute. And he did it a brief

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 3>time with Houston and they had some great success. Believe

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 3>they were a win away from getting to the NBA

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 3>Finals when they were playing the Golden State Warriors a

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 3>few years back, and he just didn't get to see

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 3>it happen.

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 4>We didn't.

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 3>We didn't see enough time. So that's why I asked, like, Okay,

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 3>could management, could they look at a scenario where they

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 3>bring I think if they're going to bring anyone back,

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 3>they'll bring CP back over eight and I think eight

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 3>and is. I think they're probably done with Aiden. I

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 3>think they're probably tired of each other at this point.

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Like, it's not inconceivable to

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 2>me that they would not move Chris Paul. But I think,

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 2>look Ishbi has shownas he's going to be super aggressive already.

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, he put a bazillion assets on

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 2>the table to get the Durant deal done. You know,

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 2>he had basically been there for a day or two

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 2>officially when that trade went through. So I am sure

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 2>the Suns are gonna aim high and explore every single option,

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 2>but I I think that, you know, the safe the

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 2>safe bed is that they're going to make at least

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 2>one major move, and I think it has to be

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 2>it's got to be eight. I mean, with this new

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 2>CBA coming in, it's just you can't have you can't

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 2>have a four star construction and then be able to

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 2>put pieces around him. It's just that the the restrictions

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 2>are too onerous when you can't use the tax mid

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 2>level and you can't make sign in trades, and it

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>just it restricts you so far if you if you

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 2>advance into second apron territory. So it you know, it

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 2>behooves the Suns to try to They got to see

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 2>if they can try to move eight, and if they

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 2>move eight, and then see if they can get some

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 2>depth back because they were clearly lacking in that department.

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 2>But the other thing tonight, man, they showed they showed

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 2>the great Al McCoy call it on the radio during

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the game. They you know, you got the legend Hub

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Brown on the TV broadcast and then they're talking about

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Al McCoy. I mean, Al McCoy is ninety, this is

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 2>his fifty first season calling Sons games. He's retiring, one

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 2>of the absolute gents in the sport, won an absolute

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>legend in the broadcast game. And I mean the Phoenix Sons.

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 2>He's leaving the job without the Phoenix Sons having won

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 2>a single title in all that time. They made the

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 2>finals multiple times, three times, seventy six, ninety three, and

0:31:55.840 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one, but couldn't win it. And man, al

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 2>McCoy fifty one years in the job and didn't get

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 2>to see a championship. That's rough.

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's tough. Yeah, everybody was expecting it to be

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 4>this year.

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>But you really, you really, I mean you liked I mean,

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I know Jamal Crawford was the same.

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 4>You don't make that trade.

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 3>You don't make that trade and not have those expectations

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 3>like you make those You make that trade to win it.

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Now there's no it's it's win now. You know this,

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.239
<v Speaker 3>you know you know that question. Giannis was asked at

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 3>the end, like is it's a failure? This was a failure.

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 3>This this season was a failure.

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 4>For sure.

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 2>It was a failure, but it was also like again,

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel like I brought it up more

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 2>than once because again it history tells us you just

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 2>mid season trades don't lead to championships. We can go

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 2>over the history one more time. Clyde Drexord to Houston

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety five. That trade led to a championship. However,

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 2>the Rocks were defending champions and they had a guy

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 2>named Hakim Elijahwan who everything revolved around in Houston. Rashid

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Wallace to Detroit in two thousand and four, that to me,

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 2>that is the standout example. That's the best that a

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 2>mid season trade has ever worked out because Rashid wall

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's really hard to pinpoint who was the

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 2>best player on that Pistons team. Was it Chauncey Bhillips,

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Was it Rashid Wallace? Was it Ben Wallace? Was it

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Rip Hamilton? It was it was the ultimate ensemble cast.

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>But Rashid's two way play and the kind of defender

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 2>he was that really changed the dynamic of that team

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 2>and took it to a new level, to the point

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>that they smoked the Phil Kobe and Shaq Lakers in

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the two thousand and four NBA Finals and then Markasol

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>in twenty nineteen. But when he went to Toronto that

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>was Kawhi's team. He went as a complimentary player in

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 2>this trade. Kevin Durant is supposed to be the alpha.

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 2>He ended up being the co alpha be because Devin

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Booker was so good in these playoffs. But again they

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 2>were together for eight regular season games and that's just

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 2>not enough. So I mean that kind of does back

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 2>up your case. That to a degree, you could run

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 2>it back, but like I said, it's there's been so

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 2>much negativity building up since the finals of twenty twenty one.

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 2>When it comes to DeAndre Ayt and Mani Williams the franchise,

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 2>there has to be a change there. There just has

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 2>to be.

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what the offseason is for and we're going

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:38.399
<v Speaker 3>to see. But they definitely would Matt Ispia. He is

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 3>in when now mode. When now mode, He's going to

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 3>apply pressure and I wouldn't be I'm just saying this.

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be surprised if he added staff to that

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 3>front office. There's going to be there's going to be

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:59.760
<v Speaker 3>changes all around. I believe, really, yes, I believe.

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 2>So all right, we will get back to the Suns

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 2>and they're busy offseason. I have a feeling you're right

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 2>and that they will be a fixture among the teams

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about once we fully shift our focus to

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 2>what's happening at draft time and free agency. But we

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 2>still have two massive games Friday night. There is absolutely

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 2>no letup Nick's Heat Game six in Miami. You've already

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 2>heard the clips that Tom Thibodeau is surely racking up

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 2>and going to use them in his pregame motivational speech

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 2>because I said Miami was going to close that thing out,

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 2>So let's see, maybe I can. Maybe, maybe I turn

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 2>out to be a mini spark that leads the Knicks

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.879
<v Speaker 2>to a surprise. But no, I do think Miami will

0:35:56.920 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 2>not make the mistake affiliated tonight. I do think the

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Heat will find a way to finish that series off

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 2>on its home floor. Lakers have the same opportunity against

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 2>the Golden State Warriors. The Warriors closed that thing to

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 2>three to two on Wednesday night. Chris Haynes was in

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 2>the building. I gotta just say, from far away Dallas,

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 2>just watching on my TV, scary what happened with Anthony Davis.

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Scary to see your reporting that said Anthony Davis needed

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 2>wheelchair assistance to be relocated to the Laker locker room

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 2>where he needed to be in the bowels of Chase Center.

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 2>All signs point to Anthony Davis playing this game six,

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, how effective will he be? Has he

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.959
<v Speaker 2>really shaken this thing off in record time? Major major

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 2>question mark.

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Was it was scary. I'm just being honest. I saw

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 3>ad as he walked off the court and I was

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 3>able to follow him to the back before he needed

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 3>will share assistance, and his equilibrium was off. He couldn't

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 3>really stand up straight. It was a scary sight. Like

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 3>I know a lot of people are making light of it,

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 3>but that that wasn't a light situation. And so I'm

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:22.439
<v Speaker 3>you know, I was very surprised, you know, that night

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 3>that he didn't suffer a concussion. So that's good news

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 3>for the Lakers. And now he's gonna he will play

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 3>in game six. We don't know how effective he will be,

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.439
<v Speaker 3>but he will play in Game six. We were able

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 3>to see him walk and leave the arena and at

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.800
<v Speaker 3>that point he was walking fine. He was walking fine,

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 3>but I saw him the way he looked right after that,

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 3>and he just did not look right. So that's that's

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 3>pretty much a miracle that he's going to be able

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 3>to play. With that being said, the pressure is on

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.439
<v Speaker 3>the Lakers right now. That's exactly what the Golden State

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 3>Warriors want it. And you still it's going to be

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 3>tough to close this Golden State Wars team out because

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 3>they've been through every scenario imaginable in the postseason. They've

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 3>been down, they've been up, They've played with key players

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:24.879
<v Speaker 3>out and performed well and got to win. This will

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 3>not be This will not be an except exception Friday.

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 3>I expect a really tough game, really tough and close game.

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't expect to blowout from from either team tomorrow.

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know what to expect. I can't even

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 3>say I you know, you know, I usually I tend

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 3>to favor the home team. I can't even I can't

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 3>even go there, starn I really do not know what

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:51.240
<v Speaker 3>to expect.

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in these playoffs that have been so topsy turvy,

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 2>so surprised, fieled the year of the lower seed, as

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I've been calling it, I mean, yeah, you know, I

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 2>guess I'm giving Miami some extra respect because of Jimmy

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Butler and Eric Spolstra by my you know, in my

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 2>belief that that they'll be able to close out the

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Knicks in Game six, but any any other series. I mean,

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:24.840
<v Speaker 2>could Philly pick up all the pieces and win a

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Game seven in Boston this year? Sure? Why not? And

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 2>could Golden State undo and pull themselves out of a

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 2>three to one hole this season this spring? Why not.

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 2>It's it's you know, almost anything is possible in these

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 2>in these wild playoffs, the age of chaos. As again,

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 2>as as Howard Beck called it, I did I did

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 2>see while we're recording this, Kevin Durant just went to

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 2>the podium after Phoenix's elimination. The KD quote quote, it sucked.

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 2>It was a bad feeling. It was embarrassing. They came

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 2>out and hit us in the mouth and we couldn't recover.

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Gonna be such an interesting off season in Phoenix. But yeah,

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.760
<v Speaker 2>get getting back to Lakers Warriors. I mean, I certainly,

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:18.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I'm I'm far, I'm fifteen hundred miles away.

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching it all on TV like everybody else, And

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 2>really did expect that Anthony Davis was going to end

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 2>up in the concussion Protocol but he did not the

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Lakers say, I think he's officially probable. Is the is

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 2>the listing?

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:37.800
<v Speaker 3>They listed him probable, but not due to the hair injury.

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 4>It was due to a foot injury, so.

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:47.279
<v Speaker 2>It's not even on the injury report. Man. But yes,

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 2>if I'm the Lakers, I would advise them to uh.

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 2>I would advise them to win Game six, don't don't

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:57.959
<v Speaker 2>let this, don't let this go seven, where we saw

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 2>what happened in the last Game seven and the mister

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Stephen Curry delivered the first fifty point game in Game

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 2>seven history. I wouldn't advise.

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 3>It, not at all. I won't be covering game six,

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 3>I'll cover Game seven. That so game six is ESPN

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 3>game and the game seven is an ABC game, So

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.799
<v Speaker 3>if it gets the game seven, I'll cover that. That

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.399
<v Speaker 3>would just be for writing purposes, Bleacher.

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Report and podcast purposes.

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 4>And podcast purposes of course, yes. And then after that,

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 4>I'll be on assignment for T and T during the doing,

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 4>covering the entire Western Conference Finals.

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 2>And the next time you and I connect for one

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<v Speaker 2>of these pods, I will be in Chicago already for

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<v Speaker 2>the combine, the G League Draft Combine, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday's draft lottery brick for Vic Victor Webbin Yama, we

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<v Speaker 2>will finally find out his team after months and months

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<v Speaker 2>and months of anticipation. Wem Bean Yamas season is still

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<v Speaker 2>going in France, so he won't actually be there. He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to watch it from Afar himself. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really looking forward to it because I've had playoff

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<v Speaker 2>obligations for the last bazillion years. If I've ever been

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<v Speaker 2>to Chicago, I legit can't remember it. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is my maiden trip to the pre draft camp in Chicago. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>if I've been to one in the past, I completely

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember. But this will definitely be the closest I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever gotten to the actual lottery. And so this is

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<v Speaker 2>one that I figured, with Wembin Yama being at the

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<v Speaker 2>top of the list and how badly teams want him,

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good one for me to make the trip

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<v Speaker 2>and check it out. So that's going to do it

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<v Speaker 2>for this edition of this League, uncut, Stein and Haynes

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<v Speaker 2>together again. Please please please rate, review and subscribe to

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<v Speaker 2>the sh Show, and we will be back soon with

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<v Speaker 2>all the thoughts on how Round two ended up. A

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<v Speaker 2>look ahead to the conference finals, and a look ahead

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<v Speaker 2>to the draft lottery. Talk soon, everybody, and that'll do

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<v Speaker 2>it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>See you next time. This League on cuta IS and

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Haynes and Mark Stein.