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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Point Game. I'm CJ. Toldono and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined here with my co host Isaiah Thomas. I T

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Speaker 1: how you feeling.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. Ready to talk some hoops. Man,

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Speaker 2: you already know what time it is.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, we're nearing Christmas, the holiday time,

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Speaker 1: Like the season is really ramping up. We're finding out

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Speaker 1: what teams are good with, what players are having a

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Speaker 1: good start to this season, and who we to look

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Speaker 1: forward to come All Star break. But we got a

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Speaker 1: jam pack show this week. You know, as this as

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Speaker 1: this show evolves, we're trying to do things bigger and

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Speaker 1: better each episode. And so this week we actually have

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Speaker 1: a very special guest, our first guest on the show,

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Speaker 1: one of your good friends, Evan Turner, joined us for

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Speaker 1: a dope interview that we recorded in Boston last week.

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Speaker 1: And then we're going to talk about everything that's going

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Speaker 1: on in the NBA from a special player who is

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Speaker 1: calling it after twenty one seasons, Chris Paul, who I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to hear, you know, your stories with him and

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on that sure. And then we're also going

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Speaker 1: to be debuting a new segment with you called No

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Speaker 1: days off that it really kind of embodies what you're

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Speaker 1: all about in the brand Slow Grind. So I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to getting that with you. But I wanted to open

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Speaker 1: up the show with Chris Paul. He announced the other

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Speaker 1: day that he, after twenty one seasons, is going to retire,

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Speaker 1: So I just want to hear your general reaction of that,

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Speaker 1: Like I feel like he was another one of the

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Speaker 1: smaller guards that were making waves out of the gate,

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Speaker 1: just like you were, and you guys probably had some

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Speaker 1: battles together. So I wanted to get your reaction on

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Speaker 1: CP that news in his sort of career.

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Speaker 2: First off, you know, shout out to CP, one of

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Speaker 2: the best guards that ever played a game, one of

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Speaker 2: my mentors, somebody I looked up to, you know, in

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Speaker 2: high school and college and got to build a relationship

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Speaker 2: throughout our careers, dating back to when I was in

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Speaker 2: years down the line, when I became a pro, he

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Speaker 2: So you know, you got to give a big shout

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Speaker 2: out to Chris Paul. Like I said, He's helped me

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Speaker 2: in so many ways. He's transcended the game in so

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Speaker 2: many ways. So you got to give him his flowers.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one seasons for somebody's just you know, just touching

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Speaker 2: many players can say they did it like him, and

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Speaker 2: he's He's made a very big impact on the game.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, I can't give Chris Paul his

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Speaker 2: flowers enough because he deserves it.

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Speaker 3: And shout out to see Pepe for real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I you know, just looking back on it,

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Speaker 1: you know, he came from that that legendary two thousand

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Speaker 1: to be like incredible career Hall of Fame. But I

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Speaker 1: was supposed to go over to the Lakers, that Dwight

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Speaker 1: Howard team, and Adam or not. David Stern vetoed.

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Speaker 4: That there's no superstar that gets traded in this league

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Speaker 4: unless the owner says go ahead with it, and in

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Speaker 4: the case of New Orleans, the representative of the owner said.

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Speaker 3: That's not a trade we're going to make. But that

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Speaker 3: representative was you, if I'm correct, and was that the

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Speaker 3: right move to make? Buy a ticket and see, we'll

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Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, team up with Kobe and

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Speaker 3: Two against the Warriors and he towards hamstring.

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Speaker 2: It was something. It was something to that significance of

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Speaker 2: a lot of what ifs, but that definitely doesn't take

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Speaker 2: Probably are our lab that's true point guard is going

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Speaker 3: Man. He's one of my favorites ever. Bro.

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Speaker 2: We've had so many battles, so many times where we

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Speaker 2: then after the game, I'm hugging and kissing his mom.

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Speaker 2: He's hugging and kissing my parents. So like he's an

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Speaker 2: amazing mentor. Man. I can't say enough about him. Am

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Speaker 2: I surprised he's retiring. I am because he loves the

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Speaker 2: eighty two games in his twentieth year. Obviously, obviously he's

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Speaker 2: So that's probably a first time in his career that

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Speaker 2: And then at the end of the day, he's missing

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Speaker 2: give Chris Paul his flowers. He's another small guard that

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Speaker 2: I said, shout out to CP Hall of Famer first

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Speaker 1: I also just want to say to me, he might

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Speaker 3: As we talked about a.

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Speaker 2: Lot, and not to cut you off, like he definitely

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Speaker 2: and he really changed that whole culture. And that's what

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Speaker 2: So he's laid the foundation for guys like SGA and

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Speaker 2: He hasn't won the championship, but he's changed the trajectory

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Speaker 2: So that says a lot about a guy like Chris Paul.

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Speaker 1: Incredible, excited to watch the rest of us this year,

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Speaker 1: his little retirement toward going on. So I want to

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Speaker 1: shift topics here. We've talked about NBA beefs a little

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Speaker 1: I think the quotes were from Jos said to uh Jah,

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Speaker 4: It's kind of the story of his career so far,

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Speaker 4: just leaving us one more. You know, we all want

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Speaker 4: to see him out there and do his best, but

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Speaker 4: he's just been but a lot of other stuff the

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Speaker 3: You know, I find some truth in that.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious on both you know, not on both sides,

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Speaker 1: but like the bump thing that Clay, Clay had a

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Speaker 1: the end of his career, his career but a few

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Speaker 1: more years. But I'm curious to hear what you thought

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Speaker 1: about you know, this this growing beef between those two.

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Speaker 2: First off, I don't think it's beef at the end

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Speaker 2: So I believe that's just hoop talk. Like okay, like

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Speaker 2: John called him a bum yet, I mean, you can

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Speaker 2: He's first bout the Hall of Fame for sure, four

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Speaker 2: accomplished accomplishments he's had throughout his career. Even John knows that.

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Speaker 2: But I just think that was just hoop talk. Like

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Speaker 2: with saying that, you know, we got the best shooter

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Speaker 2: So I think he's just talking best. And Clay Thompson

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've known what I've done.

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Speaker 2: We need to see you out here on the court,

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Speaker 2: not just whether it be hurt, whether it be on

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Speaker 2: I think they both had their sides to it all.

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Speaker 1: Well, just to close out this segment. I guess is

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Speaker 3: You're saying to me, Yeah, I feel like, okay, you

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Speaker 1: Man, Well, what's the best trash talking moment you've ever had?

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Speaker 2: There's so many I can't even tell you. You got

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Speaker 3: For a couple of seasons.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that they got to tell you, Like you

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Speaker 3: I got some PG thirteen stories.

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Speaker 1: Well to get out that is a perfect segue because

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Speaker 1: He gets into all you pull back the curtain, get

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Speaker 1: back with our interview with Isaiah Thomas's teammate, Evan Turner.

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Speaker 1: We got a special guest here because we are in Boston,

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Speaker 1: honoring it, he said on the last episode, one of

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year at Ohio State, second overall pick with

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Speaker 1: the Sixers. Host of Point Forward podcast, Everyone, please welcome

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Speaker 5: What up? Thanks for having me man. I appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 1: You're our first special guest.

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Speaker 5: Ad Yeah, very special guests. Okay, yeah, Now, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: My man, Isaiah shows me a lot of love. We've

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Speaker 5: been locked in since you're like sixteen, so you know

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't take it for granted, like me

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask the question last episode, but I

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Speaker 1: There was a few point guards on that team, but he.

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Speaker 5: the Big the Big Three, They traded Rondo, like nobody

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Speaker 1: so I guess you know there was Jay Crowder, was

436
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart?

437
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 5: Who else was on that squad? Tyler Zeller? Damn? Who

438
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 5: else was on our team?

439
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 3: Uh r?

440
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 5: J Hunter shout out?

441
00:20:59,320 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

442
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 5: Who else?

443
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 3: We had?

444
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 5: Amir Johnson? Uh Sally jonas yourrapko. And to say about

445
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 5: that team, I think we were all in like a

446
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 5: spot where we had a chip on our shoulder, like

447
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 5: in a positive sense, you know. And I think, uh,

448
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 5: not only did we have a chip on our shoulder,

449
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 5: I thought that was a real locker room where we

450
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 5: communicated heavily and we all all kind of comprehended like

451
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 5: what type of cock we were in that system? And uh,

452
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 5: I think Brad did a great job just keeping it

453
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 5: real when we showed up like we were trying to

454
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 5: figure out who was gonna do what He's like, Isaiah

455
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 5: is the best playmaker we have. Does anybody have a

456
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 5: problem with that? No? Okay, so now let's figure out

457
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 5: what we're gonna do from here. But I think I

458
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 5: think we all wanted each other and win very very badly,

459
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 5: and there was no there was no real hate. And

460
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 5: I remember we had a conversation actually saying what type

461
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 5: of leader Isaiah was going back and forth in the

462
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 5: locker room and an individual, and we are kind of

463
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 5: feeling like he wasn't he wasn't being the best teammate.

464
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 3: And when we.

465
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 5: Sat there, we're just like, hey, bro, just so you know,

466
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 5: like we need to do better to seem like some

467
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 5: hay and ass ship, Like as a teammate, you need

468
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 5: to step up, brou and like be accountable. And to

469
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 5: his credit, the man did step up, became a better teammate.

470
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 5: And but those little conversations were everything, you know, well.

471
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: Because Brad was still coming to his own I feel

472
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: like in that moment, like you know, they hadn't found

473
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: like that coach, right, so like you guys were all

474
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: again rebuilding. So like what clicked finally in that following season.

475
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: I think I honestly, I think what made our teams

476
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 2: good And it's just like he said, like we were,

477
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: we messed with each other. We really kicked it with

478
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: each other, like especially me and him, like we'll be

479
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 2: in the hotel late night, just chopping it out till

480
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: two three in the morning, no matter where it's at.

481
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: So but we had guys like that on the team

482
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: that did spend time with each other, whether it be

483
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 2: on the court or off the floor, going to dinner,

484
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 2: all those types of things, celebrating with each other. So

485
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: I think that was like a big thing for that

486
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: group because we wasn't talented like that. We wasn't If

487
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: you look at us on paper, like we probably looked

488
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 2: like we ain't winning anything the group we had, but

489
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 2: like we all, like he said, we all was counted out.

490
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: We all was trying to prove to I think everybody

491
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 2: in that point in their career was trying to prove

492
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: that they were more valuable, they were worth more, they

493
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 2: were better players. And then we just all came together

494
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 2: and really did our thing together for that little time.

495
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 3: But it made it made a big impact on the

496
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 3: city for sure.

497
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: So of me ask you this so like funniest teammate

498
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: and I guess funniest moment on that squad.

499
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 5: Bro, we just had a goofy ass group of like

500
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 5: like I thought, he'll probably get pissed us at this.

501
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 5: But we used to gamble on the plane and I

502
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 5: would play at the table where they were really paying money,

503
00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 5: like you're saying, I'm playing Ano fight the fight. So

504
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 5: they did this, man so bogus. So we know they

505
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 5: about to wave David Lee, but they all old David

506
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 5: Lee like collectively like a quarter. So David like I

507
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 5: could be gassing. It's a bit David like, Man, I'm

508
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 5: goinna get brought up. I'm going to man this. So

509
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 5: you get up and go to the bathroom. I ain't

510
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 5: gonna say who at the table these niggas was like, yeah,

511
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 5: so the deadline Tuesday, are we paying? Literally paining like

512
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 5: like are we paying? Are y'all paying? So like literally

513
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 5: they like, now we ain't gonna pay. So so then

514
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 5: by the time we see him next, like when we

515
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 5: play the MAVs, David is like in the shooting around

516
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 5: line like, hey.

517
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: Bro, we're at bread.

518
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 6: Got damn you wanted like broadcast and he's as smart

519
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 6: ass to it's that damn I can't get my little

520
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 6: sixty thousand, like damn big ballers.

521
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: Like it's like a casual NBA fan. We don't like

522
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: people don't know about David Lee at all.

523
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 5: It's the funniest, that's the funniest, coolest, like wavest I

524
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 5: was telling somebody the other day. I was like when

525
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 5: not even like the daily I won't talk about like

526
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 5: real money and people finding somebody. Man, David Lee was

527
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 5: just getting to it now. So he's living like, yeah,

528
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 5: different life and yeah, you live in Tom Brady's old

529
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 5: house for like k yeah, Like he was so booming

530
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 5: that like we might be like what you're wearing a

531
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 5: night and I'll be like man, Gucci and Jordan's and

532
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 5: like our fit might be like twenty three hundred. I'm

533
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 5: like what you're wearing, d league man jeans, a black

534
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 5: tea and a quarter nain dollar watch. He might pull

535
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 5: up to like for sure, I ain't gonna go in here, bro,

536
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 5: like I'll buy a bottle And it was a second,

537
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 5: like he'll do like five figures, like.

538
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 2: Like the way he's a cool I still talk to

539
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: d I still talked to d to was one of

540
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: And I always thought d Lee and Brad's relationship hilarious, hilarious.

541
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: I don't think Brad thought I think Brad thought d

542
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: Lee was done. I think thought Brad was an idiot.

543
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: But I think they pass so much respect for each other.

544
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: They really liked each other.

545
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 5: But they liked each other.

546
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 3: They were like opposite of who each other was.

547
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: What d did, Brad hated, hated what Brad how Brad

548
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: coach d.

549
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 3: Like, come on, man, we're not doing that.

550
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: Because Brad was coming from college, so a lot of

551
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: stuff Brad did, like especially early on, was kind of

552
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: like college type stuff, which is.

553
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 5: And also too Brad was trying to win, so like

554
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 5: every even sometimes, I know this dude was killing us,

555
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 5: do you know what I mean? We were. We were

556
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 5: so bad at the time where it was kind of like, hey, bro,

557
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 5: you can't be worse than our worst right now, you

558
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 5: fucking the game.

559
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: It was funny because he was coming from the Warriors. Ways, man,

560
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 3: we did this, we were and I get that, but

561
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: it was like trying to hear that ship.

562
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, like your three man is shooting twenty two percent.

563
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 5: You're not You're not at you are not at the Warriors.

564
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 5: No more, Yo, you're big man is shooting that is Yes.

565
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 5: I thought he was super cool man, but David le

566
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 5: was wavy and then Kelly Olinok. For whatever reason, I

567
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 5: don't think people knew how cool and Kelly Olenic used

568
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 5: to uh, I don't know if he sent it to

569
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 5: you when on snapchat. Him and his friends used to

570
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 5: do forty bar Friday. Yeah, so I used to every Friday.

571
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 5: They just I would just get like one hundred snaps

572
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 5: and I said, you know what, you know what today is?

573
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 5: And like like I'm finding video of us in the basement.

574
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 5: I went to his basketball camp in can Loose, Canada, right,

575
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 5: I remember I was supposed to go. So he said, man,

576
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 5: just come over to the house. Bro, we just kicking

577
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 5: a mob out. So I'm like all right, So I

578
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 5: go downstairs. I have a bunch of Canadians. It is

579
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen twenties. I'm like, min about, how are we mobbing?

580
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 5: Type shit? So they're like, bro, just line up, bro,

581
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 5: we're about to get started. Like so we're around the table.

582
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, get started with what? And it's like, bro,

583
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 5: it's Friday. So literally they play that E forty so

584
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 5: on and warm them ups, like you ever been in prison? Nope? Nope.

585
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 5: So like while I'm sitting here, I'm like, what is

586
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 5: going on? I just keep hearing Nope, and just see

587
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 5: all these white boys is bouncing. And then like so

588
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 5: now they really turned and I'm like, oh.

589
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: This is serious.

590
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 5: So two minutes goes by and then like they warmed

591
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 5: up and then we freestyle till like three am. Bro,

592
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna send y'all.

593
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: Is one of the coolest teage his hat all the

594
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: way backwards. Yeah, take a shower in that hat.

595
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 5: You said something. We all were discussing our like our

596
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 5: scouter report coming out of college and like what our

597
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 5: pre draft was like, can remember you were like, brou

598
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 5: imagine what scouts start when they saw Kelly a minute

599
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 5: back then it was twenty fifteen shooting through. He's crazy

600
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 5: and he's the first one that started to slow stop

601
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: for sure, and they kept to you, if you go

602
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 5: back this year the first one that before it was

603
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 5: called anything all that all that bullshit that uh gang

604
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 5: Pard Groom did. Yeah, I believe he was doing all

605
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 5: of that. He was unbelievable.

606
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

607
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: Okay, So you talked about you guys played for Brad

608
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: Obviously they've been through a couple of one coach and

609
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: then Missoula. Now who is such a strong personality. So

610
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: I guess, like, what do you guys thinking about him?

611
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: Would you guys have flourished under under Joe? Like how

612
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: have you seen it from the outside? I guess the

613
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: identity of the Boston Celtics changed since the time you

614
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: guys were there.

615
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 5: I was a prima diner, so you had to talk

616
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 5: to me nice or else I wasn't or else you

617
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 5: were going to talk to my agent. Let that go

618
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 5: by the time I hit Boston. But uh not, bro,

619
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 5: you got to be able to play and make the court.

620
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 5: I think one thing that occurs that when you go

621
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 5: certain places, and we all know it's culture. Culture is

622
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 5: a very important thing and whether you think so, uh,

623
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 5: the best way that somebody can show your respect is

624
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 5: trying to compete hard versus you, or coach you very hard.

625
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 5: And I think as a professional athlete, especially like Isaiah

626
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 5: when he wanted to take you to the next level

627
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 5: every single year, like you gotta you gotta have somebody

628
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 5: that is with you in that in that circle, pushing you,

629
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 5: like how Joe does how the standard email Doka has

630
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 5: from his players. Even with Brad, It's like, now, this

631
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 5: is what we do here, this is what I expect

632
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 5: from you, and that's the standard, and that's just a

633
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 5: Boston culture.

634
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, guys, because you guys both

635
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: come from strong basketball scenes Chicago obviously, Seattle Tacoma. Which

636
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: which scene would you think is better?

637
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 5: I'm be you? Can you honest with you?

638
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 6: Ji?

639
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 5: I was telling somebody recently, I want to see like

640
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 5: a scoring doc Like I just want to see, like

641
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 5: I want somebody to put together a documentary of all

642
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 5: the scores that like Malachai Flint, like I'm talking about

643
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 5: like you're talking about like y'all got nothing but Aaron Brooks.

644
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot about Snakey.

645
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 5: But our hoop scene is like I've been popping since

646
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 5: I was twelve, like our you know what I'm saying

647
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like Chicago high school scene.

648
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 2: I remember watching what was the show called when I

649
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: was your preps?

650
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 5: Goodness will will the high school like the high school

651
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 5: game I don't know about, but the high school games

652
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 5: are bigger than the pro pro games. And my person

653
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 5: on my line, yeah, right, So especially when d Roses

654
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 5: around like that.

655
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: Ship was a You played against the Rose in high school?

656
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yea, yeah, were the same class.

657
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: And you got what was in the playoffs? You guys

658
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: you lost him in.

659
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 5: The Yeah, the go downstate? Yeah I did it. I

660
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 5: did it to him.

661
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: You know these stories did.

662
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 5: D Roses unbelievable, Like don't let me like, yeah, like

663
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 5: hype that up, but we had by time I hit

664
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 5: what happened By the time I hit my senior year,

665
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 5: like I was obviously topping the country and there was

666
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 5: a conversation where I was a second best player in

667
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 5: the state. But it was looking like it was worth

668
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 5: discussing verse Derek, even though it wasn't. So they set

669
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 5: up two games. Obviously. The first game was a pretty

670
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 5: a pretty big game, and uh we both had thirty

671
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 5: a piece. And then like the second game, which was

672
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 5: such a big game to go down state. I think

673
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 5: I like he got in fould for I had like thirty,

674
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 5: but they had such a good team. We lost, But

675
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 5: I did my thing. Bro, I don't ever wanted this

676
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 5: to go. Like Derek was big for Chicago, but like

677
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 5: that's it.

678
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: They gave him twenty four. Yeah, we'll put the tape together.

679
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: That's my job is you guys remember those games and

680
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: we'll find it and we'll put we'll.

681
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: Cut it together.

682
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 5: I want to see it.

683
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: I won't.

684
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 5: It probably won't look as good as uh that's I think,

685
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 5: but it would be be legit. What do you think

686
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 5: about like the Seattle like because because because it's a.

687
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: Difference, I'm not sure. I mean, we got we got Hoopers.

688
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 5: But you know I didn't score score bro. I think

689
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 5: like eventually, if you look at some of our guys,

690
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 5: like our ship comes like with a physicality, like defensive minded,

691
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 5: like blue collar, like like posting it is Pat bad,

692
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 5: like Pat bad, average thirty, like our hoopers look like that,

693
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 5: and one of the best guards ever ready played like

694
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 5: you play like a six three postsman, sure what I'm saying,

695
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 5: And like our just all physicality like.

696
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 3: A little just smooth West Coast. That's what.

697
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: We get in the seventies for we rest like we

698
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 5: playing scoring that Yeah, and like everybody from that area

699
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 5: is similar in that way in terms of they ain't

700
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 5: really no point guard, they ain't really know like they're

701
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 5: they're they're getting a basket.

702
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: But the one thing I will say about where I'm

703
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: from is we we can play outside inside.

704
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: All of that.

705
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: And I'm not I'm not saying y'all can't in Chicago.

706
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: It's all respect to Chicago. But that's one thing I

707
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: think that stands out for us, Like we can play

708
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: at the park. We can go really hoop in the

709
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: gym and be really good at it, like a lot

710
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: of the guys that made it out of where I'm

711
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: from can do both.

712
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 3: And that's hard to do both.

713
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 5: That is so that remember we always have those conversations

714
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 5: in the locker room. We be talking like hooping and

715
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 5: like sometimes Jay might say this, every might say this,

716
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 5: and we always all right, I'm cool on ones like

717
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 5: roll the ball out. I know I'm goody, I'm good

718
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: on one. So tell me Hooper here about. I think

719
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 5: Jared'll be like, that's when dudes to get quiet. Don't

720
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 5: don't don't talk no ship, you can't do this. Yeah,

721
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 5: And that's when I think we were always super tighte.

722
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, bro, you nice brother.

723
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: You know I can get to it.

724
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 5: You know I can get to it. And when he

725
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 5: be in the locker like can y'all y'all want to

726
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 5: talk about Hoopers like some of y'all play basketball. Bro,

727
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 5: we hooped like like pop, there's a different You leave

728
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 5: me in the gym, have a heart attack on you,

729
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 5: brother thought, you know what I mean? And I think

730
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 5: that's I think that's the difference sometimes where like when

731
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 5: you sit there like those West Coasters, especially his scores,

732
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 5: man like Isaiah scored fifty, like until he's fifty five,

733
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 5: Like you look at Ala Kinna Flynn. You look at

734
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 5: it like I said, Aaron Brooks is the perfect example.

735
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 5: He was doing that back in the day's five nine

736
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 5: like no nothing and then be Roy Black Bright Live Roy.

737
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 5: That's my favorite. Roy. Roy is my favorite.

738
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: He's a huge what if I mean like people talk

739
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: about d rosewood if, but like Brandon was in his

740
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: prime until that new.

741
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 5: Stuff, because what was he Rookie of the Year, NBA

742
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 5: All Star time and then he was first team All

743
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 5: second team on NBA coach did.

744
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 3: They said? The typest guy and he had no weakness.

745
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: That's what they shaid.

746
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 5: You guys.

747
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: I love you guys bringing up names of like when

748
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: you're in high school, who are some of these other

749
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: guys who are like, oh they might do something that

750
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: you know the generations now know, like any other guys

751
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: besides you know the d Rose is the Malachaisa, any

752
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: other players that we missed out.

753
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: On mail.

754
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 5: J was tough. So there's a kid, uh with these

755
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 5: big ass eyes, like a long head and like crooked

756
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 5: teas that just kept always looking at me. And I'm like,

757
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 5: the fun keep looking at so then like he just

758
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: kept like just looking through my soul like all the time,

759
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 5: Like bro, what is to this? Like you know? So

760
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 5: when we finally start playing, he just keep looking at me,

761
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 5: and then we start hooping. He's like I got him,

762
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 5: and I'm like, bro, this man is on my top.

763
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 5: They were, Bro, this gave me the longest day of

764
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 5: my life. You want to know who it was? James Harden.

765
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 5: I kid you not nor hair no long end And

766
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 5: I tell you one battle I never want, but he

767
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 5: been busting my I remember one time, right BJ Mullen's

768
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 5: played for OKC Thunder this one James is coming off

769
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 5: the bench. BJ Mum's coming to my house the night

770
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 5: before and I always going on and say, oh, such

771
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 5: a such a sitting. I think, uh, I think James

772
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: might start tomorrow. But he's like, hey, bro kill him.

773
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: Bro.

774
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 5: He was talking crazy about this something.

775
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: I got him.

776
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 5: I got him in my head. I'm like, yeah, so

777
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 5: like the next day, I might fuck it, Bro, I'm

778
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 5: just gonna come out and I'm gonna really try to

779
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 5: kill this bro. If y'all go back and look at that.

780
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 5: But it's man, I think he like he could have

781
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: ran off like sixteen. This is okay, see James, So

782
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 5: this is before like it was really popishure like so

783
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 5: like he was I don't know how I was able.

784
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 5: Like I left the game where Kevin Durant is there,

785
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 5: and this man gave me the most work. I'm talking about,

786
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 5: like chilled me the whole night. Bro. He must have

787
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 5: gave me like sixteen in the first half. But that

788
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 5: was I think, Yeah, that was the wildest. Uh.

789
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 3: He's been lying you up.

790
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 5: I don't know what my mama told him, but that

791
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 5: he's still doing it the other night man cold bro.

792
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: All right, And so the reason why we're here in

793
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: Boston is you are giving the award, the Basketball Legacy

794
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: Award to it here from the city of Boston. So

795
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: I guess, like what does that mean for you? Like,

796
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: how is that is that special that you were chosen

797
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: to do this?

798
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 5: No, I told him when he told me. I was like, damn,

799
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 5: like uh, like you know what I mean, almost brought

800
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 5: it to her my eye. I got so much respect

801
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 5: for for Isaiah, like him as a man, like I

802
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 5: literally like watch it like he worked, even like what

803
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 5: he's going through now you know his whole story. He

804
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 5: is like the pity like the epitome of a man,

805
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 5: and like it's like biblical in that sense, you know.

806
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 5: And uh, you know I've I've always uh just just

807
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 5: just looked up to him and like been a fan

808
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,959
Speaker 5: of his. So anytime, like the just as a person,

809
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 5: everything anytime like it's reciprocated. You don't take you for granted.

810
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 5: Could have asked one hundred different people, and you know,

811
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 5: to be in that circle, even to share that moment

812
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 5: with somebody, that's a rarity, like a one percent, Like

813
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 5: I don't that that is, that's an act that's better

814
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: than even getting inducted, you know, and it shows like

815
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 5: a reward of like being a decent human too. Like

816
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 5: you know, I think one thing that I've taken great

817
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 5: pride in is like the same thing that makes you

818
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 5: laugh makes you cry. And I remember I put up

819
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 5: thirty thirty one night, and I remember and the locker

820
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 5: room guys were cool with it, and I remember Isaiah

821
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,479
Speaker 5: reached out to him. It's like, hey, you was killing

822
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 5: the night cause and you might not think it is

823
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 5: at all, but that's like, damn, that's some realist shit,

824
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 5: especially in the heat of like competition, like I need

825
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 5: to be that challenged me, like to be a better teammate,

826
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 5: better friend. I'm like, this is real, Like this is

827
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 5: actually real, like you know, and from there, you know,

828
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 5: it's just dope, Bro. I don't take it for granted,

829
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 5: like the longevity of our friendship and even just being

830
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 5: able to talk about like our kids and shit and

831
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 5: see somebody like he's getting his just due to get

832
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 5: like glorified. It's one of the best basketball players I

833
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 5: ever been aroun one of the hardest workers I ever

834
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 5: been around in like pound for pound, Like and you know,

835
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 5: sun he deserves all the sunshine, bro. And and for

836
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 5: me just to be part of it and just to

837
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 5: wear a suit, bro, Like I'm grateful, and you know,

838
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 5: I wear this with a badge of honor.

839
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: But it's.

840
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 5: And I want to say this one last thing about Isaiah, uh,

841
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 5: because it's the dopest thing I took from him. I

842
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 5: remember watching him as a pop like as a dad,

843
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 5: and I used to be like, what you do today?

844
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 5: So I had to wake up take my little man

845
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 5: to school. I said, if you do that, like yeah,

846
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 5: just like man, you know sometimes I wake up. I

847
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 5: was up early. Man, my little man want the hoop.

848
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 5: And I'm like, bro, you just had thirty, like thirty

849
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 5: last night, and you do that now. I remember he

850
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 5: wasn't there one day and he was flying back the

851
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 5: same day from Boston and Seattle to take James to

852
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 5: his first basketball practice.

853
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: And uh, I.

854
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 5: Remember even when I go through like hell by my

855
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 5: friends are here and I kind of go through like

856
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 5: some of that stuff hell of high water, be a dad,

857
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 5: and uh, every time I stopped, like I'll text him,

858
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 5: I think, and I'm like, no, I said done this.

859
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 5: I've seen him do it and ain't never bitch. And

860
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 5: that's one thing I always took away from him, just

861
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 5: like like the new standard of like what it takes

862
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 5: to be a dad, but a black dad. But just

863
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 5: even like nobody even knows that he did, like there's

864
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 5: ninety percent of that ship and he did all that

865
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 5: while averaging thirty and like no credit, no, like no

866
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 5: nothing like and being there for his wife and everything, like,

867
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 5: but being there for his kids, like his kids know

868
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 5: him and like and like like the intentionality they show

869
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,720
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Speaker 1: Time for our Draft Kings. King of the Court segment.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Point Game. That was our

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Speaker 1: interview with Evan Turner. I mean we got to keep

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00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: having et on because those stories were wild. We had

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00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: to leave someone on the cutting room floor because we'll

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Speaker 1: save it for another time.

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00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: But also say we're rated R like you said, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's he's one of a kind.

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Speaker 2: So if we ever need some good conversation, he's always

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Speaker 2: invited back.

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Speaker 1: We're going to close out this episode. It you and

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00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: I've ben talking and there's some things you wanted to

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00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: do here on this platform a Point Game. You're really

923
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: excited about this segment, so why don't you take us

924
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Speaker 1: through what we're about to do in your brand new segment.

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00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: All right, So I got a new segment called No

926
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: Days Off. That's a little mantra of my Slow Grind brand,

927
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: you know, and it's really given shine and light to

928
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: guys in the league that you know, aren't the superstars

929
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: that don't get all the headlines and the social media,

930
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: don't get all the interviews and the public they deserve

931
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Speaker 2: to give. And as we go through this week, by week.

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Speaker 2: Some weeks we have a couple of players, some weeks

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Speaker 2: we have one. And this week I want to give

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Speaker 2: light and shine to somebody that has that slow grind

935
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Speaker 2: mentality over a rookie over there with the New Orleans Pelicans,

936
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Speaker 2: Derek Queen, somebody who you know had to mentally have

937
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Speaker 2: a slow grind mentality because he got hurt in the

938
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Speaker 2: Summer League, I believe, and had a little surgery where

939
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: he had to just you know, slow down a little

940
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: bit and get his mind right. And when he got

941
00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: back healthy, as everybody's seen this year, he's a he's

942
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Speaker 2: a he's a light on the New Orleans Pelicans.

943
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 3: He's been having a hell of a rookie year.

944
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: I think he's played against Joker last last few games

945
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: where even Joker said some some really high level things

946
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Speaker 2: about him.

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Speaker 8: He's good. You know, he's good. He has some moves,

948
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 8: he's definitely crafty. He's so he's unorthodox, great touch for

949
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 8: the touch around the field, for the game. It's good

950
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 8: to see somebody some of the different.

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Speaker 2: So I got to give a shout out to Derek,

952
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: a rookie the New Orleans Pelicans that's had a really

953
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: great start to the year. Also another shout out to

954
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: DeAndre Jordan, who was a vet over there showing him

955
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 2: the ropes, you know, leading the way for him, you know,

956
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: giving him all the inside on the right things to do,

957
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: stand away from the wrong things.

958
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: Shout out the DJ over there in New Orleans.

959
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: But the No Days Off segment, I got to give

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00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: a big shout out to Derek Man.

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00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 3: The world's not showing you all the love you deserve,

962
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: but we got to give.

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00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: You a shout out over here sooner now to show

964
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Speaker 2: to show that you've been doing your thing.

965
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: Bro.

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00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: And I want people who are listening to this podcast,

967
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: you write these names down so when everyone's talking about them,

968
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: when they're on All Star teams and they're you know,

969
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: having crazy plaid performances. You heard it say it first,

970
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: but you said you actually you had an experience watching Derek.

971
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so last year NCAA Tournament. Last year, second round

972
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: of the NCAA Tournament. I took my boys to go

973
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: see his game last year, which was in Seattle, and

974
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: he had a hell of a game. He ended up

975
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: hitting the game winner at the buzzard they run, They

976
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Speaker 2: ran a play for a freshman and he he sealed

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Speaker 2: the deal with a buzzer.

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Speaker 4: Beater from the pounds to the freshman queen who's tried

979
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Speaker 4: it with life to the sweet sixteen.

980
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 2: So that game I seen the promise that he had

981
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: and the future that he had, and after that I

982
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: knew he was going to the league. So you know,

983
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: shout out to him, hell of a player. Future is

984
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: super bright. Stay on your slow grind, my brother, and

985
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: keep battling and keep pushing.

986
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: You know what.

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00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: I saw it the other night because dude's a dog

988
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: and there's this one. You know, everyone every Hooper knows

989
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: this tradition where if the game's essentially over, there's a

990
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: big lead or whatever, they're actually down by I think

991
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Speaker 1: like twenty or eighteen.

992
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: And he stole the ball.

993
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: Figure what team, and everyone was just like dribbling out

994
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: the clock. He stole the ball and dunked it. And honestly,

995
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: I feel like we got to revisit that tradition because

996
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: it was like, you don't do that, but it's just

997
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: like you play to the buzzer. You know, there's a

998
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: little bit of like bro So I thought I liked that.

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00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. Look. I was that guy. I

1000
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: was the guy that were yelling at when I was

1001
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: a rookie and I was.

1002
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: Getting in in the last two minutes of the game,

1003
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: down twenty or up twenty, I'm playing to the buzzer.

1004
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: If you gonna let the ball just be out in front,

1005
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 2: I'm going to get it so I don't fault him.

1006
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: Get your baskets, get your extra rebounds, get your extra assists,

1007
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: play to the buzzer.

1008
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: Sounds you doing your thing? Bro Yep, we.

1009
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: Got to rewrite that rule. We got to revisit that one.

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00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 3: We got too.

1011
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: We got to I'll do a quick shout out for

1012
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: no days off for this segment. I like Dannis Jenkins.

1013
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: I mean I was texting Zeri, our producer, about two

1014
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: weeks ago. I think they were playing the Wizards, which

1015
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: they should have handled that game a little bit better

1016
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: because of the number one in the East. But it

1017
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: went to overtime and Danis Jenkins was having a game.

1018
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: I think he's had like twenty four but he had

1019
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: a huge clutch shot in overtime, and I was like, oh,

1020
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: maybe this is a fluke. You know, this guy was

1021
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: a two way player G League, but since then, last

1022
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: two weeks he's been going off. He's one of those

1023
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: guys where I mean Detroit. This is how they're going

1024
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: to keep getting better and being at the top of

1025
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: the East. They just find these guys and these guys

1026
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: who just know what to do with the opportunity. You know,

1027
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 1: there was the first time hearing about him two weeks ago,

1028
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: and I just keep hearing about him. I think they're

1029
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: going to as as the Pistons continue to just shine.

1030
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: And they just got Jade and Ivy back and so

1031
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 1: the that can they figure out how to like work

1032
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: the caid, Jayden, Dannis, you know, just they got players.

1033
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: They're deep over there. So shout out to Dannis and

1034
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited to keep watching this Pistons team, Like

1035
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: who knows, guy's a limit for them.

1036
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 3: Big shout out to him.

1037
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: I've been seeing them too in the stat sheet and

1038
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: the box score doing his thing. Shout out to the

1039
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons. You you you mentioned the decisions that they're

1040
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: making in the front office to get these guys. A

1041
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: big shout out to Treasure Langdon too. Like they're they're

1042
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: doing their thing over there, man, and and it's good

1043
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: to see a team that's you know, not counted on

1044
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: to be a championship contender, to the to the to

1045
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: the main media, to the to the world. And if

1046
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: you really watch a Detroit Piston game, they got all

1047
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: the tools to make some real noise in the playoffs

1048
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 2: this year, as they've been showing everybody at the start

1049
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: of this year. So shout out to them, Shout out

1050
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 2: to Ky Cunningham. They're doing their thing.

1051
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, JB, that's a that's a nice organization over there.

1052
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: Detroit Basketball is back. Joy basketball.

1053
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: All right, Well, everyone, please keep it locked. You're gonna

1054
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: get some more knowledge dropped on to you some other players.

1055
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: If you got League Pass, you're just like scroll away

1056
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: from your favorite team watch some other hoopers.

1057
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 3: You know.

1058
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: That's what we're trying to do here. We're trying to

1059
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: give you guys some great basketball homework to check out

1060
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: who else is doing their thing in the league. But

1061
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: this has been point game. It you got anything else

1062
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: to leave us with?

1063
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: The piggyback on what you're saying, man, we want to

1064
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 2: give love to everybody, not just the easy guys, not

1065
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 2: just the superstars, the guys that are on all the commercials.

1066
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: So you know, we just want to show love and

1067
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: respect and give everybody their flowers that they deserve.

1068
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: And you know we're going to keep talking the game.

1069
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 1: Bro, Yeah, jevity shout outs. I know there's some birthdays

1070
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: especial people on.

1071
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 2: My Yeah, shout out to my wife Kayla. Her birthdays

1072
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Speaker 2: in a couple of days. She's a little older than me,

1073
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: So you're getting old. But you're still beautiful. Man, You're

1074
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 2: still beautiful. I love you. Shout out to my daughter too.

1075
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: She'd be watching these and she'd be wondering why I

1076
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: don't give a shout out. So shout out to my daughter,

1077
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: Journey girl. You know I got a shout out to

1078
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: the women in my life.

1079
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Speaker 5: Love it.

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Speaker 3: Man.

1081
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 1: Well, I hope you guys have a great Thanksgiving. We'll

1082
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: be back after that to keep talking more hoops. And

1083
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,799
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