WEBVTT - Player’s Lounge: Who Stays, Who Goes?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the player's label,

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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<v Speaker 1>Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCray, and New He scrugs.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, here we go on a Tuesday. Everybody, This

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<v Speaker 1>is the players lines are New He scrugs, a long

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<v Speaker 1>time Cowboys reported, joined by Barry Church and Danny McCray. Gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>we spent so much time allowing Barry to take that

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<v Speaker 1>victory lap yesterday. We failed to give credit to a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who had a good game that was very underrated

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<v Speaker 1>in the win, and that is Special Teams Ace who

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<v Speaker 1>played a lot of defense. C J. Good. So, gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>let's peak that praise on old CJ. His partner. Big

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<v Speaker 1>win over the Eagles. We gotta get go ahead, Dan

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<v Speaker 1>mc go ahead. They called Barry Church nostradamins. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm gonna take this one because I've been calling

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<v Speaker 1>this man the MVP of the Dallas Cowboys football team

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<v Speaker 1>four weeks now, and they and they put him out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had them specifically out there to spy on

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hurts, and I think that changed the game. It

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<v Speaker 1>forced Jalen Hurts to stay in the pocket a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit longer than he wanted two and allow our pass

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<v Speaker 1>rush to get there and allow our coverage to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the right position to get those interceptions. So he

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<v Speaker 1>went out there, he changed the game the same way

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<v Speaker 1>he's been doing all year. And a shout out to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's still the MVP in the only pro bo

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<v Speaker 1>snub on the Dallas Cowboys football team. Hey man, good

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff for CJ out there. You right, We forgot

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<v Speaker 1>to show our boys some love. He was one of

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<v Speaker 1>our first guests here on the Players Lounge last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean he's been a special team's demon this

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<v Speaker 1>whole year, whether it be covering kicks down and kicks

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<v Speaker 1>inside the twenty, doing reverse passes, taking it down the sidelines.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's been a special teams demon. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they threw him in on defense and I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>notice the small little wrinkle that Mike Nolan put in

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<v Speaker 1>there having him back there at safety and as the snapper.

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<v Speaker 1>As the play progressed, he slowly crept down into that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of quarterback spy position and we all know he

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<v Speaker 1>has world class feed, so it wasn't like Hurtch was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to run away from him. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they did a great job adding him in on the defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just been a stud all year round. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of people noticed him because of special teams,

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<v Speaker 1>but this guy's been a stud for the team all

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<v Speaker 1>year round. And like, like Danny said, he was the

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<v Speaker 1>only snub on the Cowboys roster as far as Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bowls concerned, who did make the Pro Bowl over him?

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot I want to say it was. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Slater because you know he's always at a special

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<v Speaker 1>teams gay, but that's AFC. I'm not sure who made

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<v Speaker 1>it in I'm not sure who may maybe well, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>here's an other tough thing for a guy like c J. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a losing team, you guys to know this

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<v Speaker 1>because you play the game. It's hard. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>make the Pro Bowl, you know it just just losing

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<v Speaker 1>teams is it's tough, and we do it. And we

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<v Speaker 1>have seen in the past when the Cowboys win, the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys get a lot of guys on the Pro Bowls.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, for a guy like CJ. Hopefully he's

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty twenty one and the Cowboys have a

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<v Speaker 1>winning record, then he's going to have that better opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to make it on special teams. But you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>many times that's how a big chunk of this goes

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<v Speaker 1>into who makes the Pro Bowl squad. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get lucky, you know, you gotta be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinarily a big time name like a Deshaun Watson to

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<v Speaker 1>make the Pro Bowl on a losing team like he

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<v Speaker 1>did this year. And Ryan Tannehill was all mad about

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<v Speaker 1>how he did make it. But um, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we all saw Deshaun Watson was out there by himself. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely by him. I mean, to answer your question, he

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<v Speaker 1>was Nick Blore from the Seattle Seahawks, who was the

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<v Speaker 1>special teams pro bowler for the NFC. Gotcha listen. It

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<v Speaker 1>also doesn't help when your team cuts you before the year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you kind of help along the way there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And that's and hopefully c J can get

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<v Speaker 1>some real most of all, and Danny, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>know this well, the special teams was your thing. You

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<v Speaker 1>can get some respect in your own locker room, you know, that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I hope CJ. Goodwin can get out of

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<v Speaker 1>this twenty twenty season. It's just some respect from the organization. No, No, listen, listen, listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I can guarantee you that they have a respect for him.

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<v Speaker 1>But as Barry knows, and you're covering, the Cowboys know

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<v Speaker 1>that safe the safety position is one of the positions

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<v Speaker 1>that is not really that invested in when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to dollars and long contracts and special teams. Is also

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<v Speaker 1>one of those positions to where the Cowboys have not

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<v Speaker 1>been able to keep their stars special teams players and

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<v Speaker 1>stack those guys up so they can have guys like

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<v Speaker 1>CJ on the roster for long periods of time, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a team like um the New New England Patriots.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope that this is the year that we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of turned the corner and realized how important a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like CJ is. But if history, you know, tells

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<v Speaker 1>us anything, then he might be headed somewhere else. He

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<v Speaker 1>needs a gimmick, man, he needs one of those. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>knew what you were around here? When who was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy back in the day? Man? It was I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was Kenny the Shark. Yeah, he think't in there

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<v Speaker 1>doing his little shark dads like yeah, yeah, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>needs this little gimmick man, just to get him a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more TV time, and then I'm sure he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to turn the corner and get cjes CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>He even going to come out. He ain't about to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, man, And listen, if they don't respect him

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<v Speaker 1>for his play on the field right now, he don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to go out there and do no shark man.

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<v Speaker 1>So hey, them shark dads might put a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>extra mill in your pocket. May I don't know. Look, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was there for it, man. I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Kenny the Shark Gant was so popular. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he had a radio show. I mean, man, people

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<v Speaker 1>loved that dude. And when when it was Special Team's time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people were in the stands, you know, watching

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<v Speaker 1>him dance do his thing. So I'm just saying, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was a niche that he took and

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<v Speaker 1>fans loved it. I mean even when pat Man Jones

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<v Speaker 1>was here, you know Pat Man Jones, people wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>see him in the return game. And I thought, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was wrong, but I thought Tavon Austin could have

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<v Speaker 1>been a guy who who got people going into return games.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't happen that way. But like I said, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>but taking this a little bit further out here on

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<v Speaker 1>the players lauch Boty by hotels dot Com. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>some uptick from the defensive back and we've seen it

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<v Speaker 1>now in three football games, and my jaw remember it

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<v Speaker 1>against rookie Jalen Hurts. It's against uh Nick Mullins. None

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<v Speaker 1>of these three players will be starting for their teams

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<v Speaker 1>if they can get their starting quarterbacks back next year.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, I don't think they are. Maybe Hurts,

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<v Speaker 1>but I doubt I doubt it because they got so

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<v Speaker 1>much investing in Carson Wentz. I think they'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>try and make it work with them first. But do

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<v Speaker 1>you bring these guys back? Do you blow it up?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do with your secondary next year? With

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<v Speaker 1>just one game to go? What do you think they

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<v Speaker 1>should do? McCraw? Wait, wait, so I know Nick Mullins

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<v Speaker 1>didn't start the next game after he played US, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's already off the table. And did Brandon Allen start

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<v Speaker 1>the next same? Yeah, he played, he falled out and

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<v Speaker 1>against balled out and any player. Yeah he played okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so so Nick so so. Nick Mullins is already off.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not happening all right, So listen, It's like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to make those plays no matter who's playing quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's been some guys out there. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Allen goes out there next week and play as

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<v Speaker 1>well against Houston, and you never would have thought that

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<v Speaker 1>would have happened. The way that he gave them, gave

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<v Speaker 1>the turn up was over to us. So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have those opportunities to make those plays and

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<v Speaker 1>you make them, you deserve all the credit in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't change what happened previously throughout the season

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<v Speaker 1>and with your dB coaches and these guys getting you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bombed on balls, going over the head, getting you know,

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<v Speaker 1>blonde coverages and simple stuff like cover three and cover four.

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<v Speaker 1>None of that stuff changes that, right, So they made

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<v Speaker 1>some plays, but it needs to be some reconstruction going

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<v Speaker 1>on in that secondary just to make sure that this

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<v Speaker 1>is not our Achilles Hill next season. Reconstruction that they

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<v Speaker 1>need to throw a TNT whole secondary room and blow

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<v Speaker 1>that thing up. I mean, look, I only see maybe

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<v Speaker 1>two two people coming back from this secondary and I

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<v Speaker 1>would be Wilson, who he's shown. He's shown that he

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<v Speaker 1>can be that playmaker. He needs to. He needs to

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<v Speaker 1>fine tune his coverage a little bit and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get his game under control as far as getting penalties

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<v Speaker 1>and late hits in that nature. But you can ride

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<v Speaker 1>with a guy like that who goes one hundred miles

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<v Speaker 1>an hour, no matter what position it is, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what snap it is, no matter what time in the

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<v Speaker 1>game it is. He's going one hundred miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can live with that. You can go to

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<v Speaker 1>war with that, and then the other guy has to

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<v Speaker 1>be trade on days. I mean, yes, he had his

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<v Speaker 1>ups and downs. He's been getting beat by four touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's also fought and came back. I mean, look

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<v Speaker 1>the receiving corps he had to go against his first

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<v Speaker 1>six games as an NFL. I mean he had Julio Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett cut from LA, he had Roods.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he had a lineup of receivers that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know any veteran corner would be able to go

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<v Speaker 1>up there and have success again, So this guy had

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<v Speaker 1>his ups and downs. But he's done enough to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to come back and I think be that number

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<v Speaker 1>one corner for the secondary. But the rest of those guys, Whosier, Woods,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Lou want to throw in there. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for them to, you know, go look elsewhere. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it will benefit like like the restkins say, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>benefit both parties. Hadn't separate, all right, So so we

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<v Speaker 1>need to blow this thing up and bring those two

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<v Speaker 1>back and see what happens. I got five, got you

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<v Speaker 1>got five? Five? Yeah? Five? Okay, go ahead, name those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Please dig Diggs is one, obviously, yes, Tray digs Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing back Darian Thompson because he's a backup in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, and you put him in a backup role

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<v Speaker 1>and he's making one point three million dollars in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, so I'm bringing him back. I'll bring it

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<v Speaker 1>back Wilson in twenty twenty one as a backup. He's

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<v Speaker 1>making eight hundred and eighty one thousand dollars. I'm bringing

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<v Speaker 1>back Striker. I'll bring it back Wilson. I'll bring it

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<v Speaker 1>back Anthony Brown. Anthony Brown next year got a salary

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<v Speaker 1>of five point seven million dollars and I'm looking at him.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of money, a lot of bread. Um, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I need in this league. I'm gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>three guys, are gonna need some debt. So you've paid him,

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<v Speaker 1>and my hope is that a new defensive coordinator can

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<v Speaker 1>get something out of him. But I'm bringing him back, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm bringing him back and I'll bring it. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>bring it back Reggie Robins, and for seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two thousand dollars, here's a guy that you've already

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<v Speaker 1>vested in and hopefully with a full offseason, the kid

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<v Speaker 1>from Tulsa can give you something on special teams and

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<v Speaker 1>give you something as a defensive back. So those are

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<v Speaker 1>the guys I bringing back. What I do need. I

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<v Speaker 1>need another starting corner on the other side of digs.

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<v Speaker 1>I need a starting I need two starting safeties. So

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<v Speaker 1>so I go to at least three to possibly four

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<v Speaker 1>guys to go with these other dudes. I'll bring it back.

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<v Speaker 1>I got two questions. I got two questions. Is Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Brown's contract guarantee because you know, like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>he might have had his first two years guarantee. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's having the three for fifteen, but I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know if his second year is guaranteed. If so,

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<v Speaker 1>then yes, he'll have to be back. And then my

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<v Speaker 1>second question is you bringing Reggie Robinson back? He could

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad, practice squad. Okay, all right, all right, never listen.

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<v Speaker 1>This year has made us forget that there is a

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad, so we could bring we could bring them back,

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<v Speaker 1>put him on practice squad, kind of developed them, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like we did Teddy Williams back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>You can still get him, you know, get him that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and NEWI I think you also are correct on

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown. I think he's played well enough that he

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<v Speaker 1>deserves another shot, you know, hopefully with a new defensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator or at least new defensive back coach that can

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<v Speaker 1>really get the most out of these guys. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Traymon Diggs, Anthony Brown h woods. You know, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>no go for me because you know, he went out

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<v Speaker 1>and embarrassed the whole defensive staff really about telling people

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<v Speaker 1>that he couldn't hustle for for a full game. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just going to stick with me, you know, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as he's here. And it makes no sense. But yet

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson and Thompson, I think you still give those guys

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<v Speaker 1>a shot. You bring them back and see what happens

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<v Speaker 1>because they are on team freendly dials. And you said,

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<v Speaker 1>if we plan on signing break Dak Prescott, then we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to need to be on some have some team

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<v Speaker 1>friendly deals going on. Thompson gonna be starting if we

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<v Speaker 1>bring Prescott back. Church. Here's your here's some numbers here

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<v Speaker 1>for over the cap. On Anthony Brown, he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>cat number next years at five point seven five million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>It's he takes up two point eight percent of the cat.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a lot. If you cut him before June first,

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<v Speaker 1>it costs you three million dollars. If you're cutting him after,

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<v Speaker 1>it's two point seven million dollars. And for me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking right now he's going to be my third quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>At five point seven million dollars, that's not a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You go when you look at Trevon dig he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a high number next year because he was a

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<v Speaker 1>first round draft pick. And then I'm gonna go out

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<v Speaker 1>most likely draft or sign another cornerback here. So for

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<v Speaker 1>my corner room, that's not a lot. Of money, considering

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<v Speaker 1>how many teams you're going to face in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>that want to throw the football. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that Anthony Brown is killing me. I don't look at

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<v Speaker 1>him and say, oh my gosh, this dude is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's so put it like this. You'll ask Jaylen

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<v Speaker 1>Smith to take a pay cut, and you'll figure out

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<v Speaker 1>a way to lessen his money, then you will. Anthony Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, that's true, that's true. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>he's as I think of him as a three and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you guys, I think of him

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<v Speaker 1>as a three. I think of as a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're gonna need some nickels and dime packages

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's you know. Can he be one of

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<v Speaker 1>my top three four dB corners. Yeah, I think he

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<v Speaker 1>can be that. But if you're looking at him to

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<v Speaker 1>be a starter, then maybe you I think you might

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit. You might be a little bit often.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's my thing about Wilson and Thompson. These guys

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<v Speaker 1>as starters, you may not want them there as backups. Great,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that that that's just me. Um, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>would I would agree. I would agree with you on

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<v Speaker 1>the Wilson, I mean on the Thompson. Think, if he's

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<v Speaker 1>coming in, if we can keep him for that same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of VET minimum deal, I think he'd be a

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<v Speaker 1>valuable piece on that on that special team because, like

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<v Speaker 1>like mcrais said earlier in the season, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't value special teams that much. We kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>throw guys out there. But if we can keep a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like Thompson on that VET minimum deal and have him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not waste his energy on defense but basically

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<v Speaker 1>be nothing but a special teams player, I can get

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<v Speaker 1>down with that. I can have him being a backup

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<v Speaker 1>but a b you know, I think you talked me

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<v Speaker 1>into to him being that third corner because, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>five point seven for a third you know nickel start

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<v Speaker 1>starting Nickel corner. That's that's mediocre money for for a

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<v Speaker 1>starting Nickel corner. So I think he could the cap.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh mediocre money, all right. So I said something about

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<v Speaker 1>the contract months ago, and I got laughed off the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he talking about mediocre about when we when we

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<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about top ranked guys getting paid at

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<v Speaker 1>the Nickel spot, they're getting paid you know, eleven and

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<v Speaker 1>twelve million dollars at the nickel spot. So I would

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<v Speaker 1>say five point seven is that that's that's mediocre, That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's medium, good road. Listen, it's a real contract. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a real contra. Oh May, that's crazy. Medio point

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<v Speaker 1>four million. So it's one point four million for Dicks

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<v Speaker 1>next year, and and then the cap hit on Brown

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<v Speaker 1>next year's five point point seven. So that is that

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<v Speaker 1>right there comes out about seven point two million for

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<v Speaker 1>two of your top three starting corners. Um, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's good money in the national football And then so

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<v Speaker 1>and I gotta think something on Wilson man, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just have a little bit more faith than him

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<v Speaker 1>because my understanding is this guy essentially is a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>because he's this is his first time really being a starter,

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<v Speaker 1>and he went out there and made some serious plays, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's you know, we're hoping that he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance to go through a full offseason, learn

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<v Speaker 1>a full defensive scheme, have a full training camp, and

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<v Speaker 1>have this year under his belt, and I can only

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<v Speaker 1>see him going up from here now. Albeit last year

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the same thing about some of these dbs.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, in football, you never really know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can just see his ceiling being pretty high. As

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<v Speaker 1>long as as long as they make sure they develop

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<v Speaker 1>him the correct way and put him in positions to

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<v Speaker 1>be successful. Well, Donovan Wilson should need to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of this conversation if you really think about standpoint

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<v Speaker 1>of even not being back. I mean, here's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's in his second year finally gets an opportunity. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the cost for him said twenty twenty one is eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty one thousand dollars. In twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>it's nine hundred and sixty six thousand. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for this kind of money and the production what we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen so far, this is a good team friendly contract

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys, and you need a guy like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm not saying they're gonna bring in Earl Thomas,

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<v Speaker 1>but just let's say you go and you get a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like in Earl Thomas, and then you have a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like Wilson. To me, that's a perfect spot where

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<v Speaker 1>you got two guys back, or maybe you want Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>has started one spot and you pay a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of money more money to Earl Thomas. But but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a cheaper guy there. And I go back

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<v Speaker 1>to what I said before. If you're paying Dak Prescott,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to find ways, and you've got to find

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<v Speaker 1>some bargains on your football team and drafting guys, especially

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<v Speaker 1>guys who are in that fifth, you know, fifth, sixth round,

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<v Speaker 1>who could come in here and help you as backups.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be the key towards managing this

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<v Speaker 1>cap for the Cowboys. In my opinion, keep Earl Thomas well,

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<v Speaker 1>yet keep L Thomas where he Keep Earl Thomas where

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<v Speaker 1>he's away from the Dallas Cowboys. Please, Oh yeah, because look,

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<v Speaker 1>if we pay, if we pay Prescott, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to do a lot of bargain shopping on the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a safety. I don't think we need that

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<v Speaker 1>Earl Thomas or that Justin Simmons, that high priced safety.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need somebody in the in the tray,

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<v Speaker 1>Boston realm, who's a solid safety, who can be that

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback of the defense. Get these guys lined up, and

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<v Speaker 1>someone who Wilson can learn after. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna have to go since we're gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott probably fifty some millions, So I mean we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do break, Okay, squeezing a break. The Cowboys may

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that defensive coordinator Mike Nolan is coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not sold on what has happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>last few weeks. It has been good for the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>to see, but I'm sorry it took a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>Nolan is the guy. So if Mike Nolan's out, gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any names of defensive coordinators that you

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<v Speaker 1>would possibly like to see? Church, I'll start with you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love This is not gonna happen because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure he'll get a head coaching job this offseason, but

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to have a guy like Robert Sila,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the guy open and with the forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 1>He just seems so energetic and just in tune with

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<v Speaker 1>his players, and it seems like whoever's out there with him,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's lost so many cats out there. Whoever's

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<v Speaker 1>out there with him, they seem to just be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they played for him and they go hard for him.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would love that for a guy like that

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<v Speaker 1>to come here, But like I said, I extremely doubt

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<v Speaker 1>it because he'll probably get a head coaching job elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we could, man, I'd be a hell of

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<v Speaker 1>a hire. Okay, do you have a realistic candidate? How

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<v Speaker 1>about that? I ain't got a realistic, realistic candidate. But

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<v Speaker 1>there is a defensive coordinator at the University of Toledo

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<v Speaker 1>who as that defense rolling. And look, I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Tolio, we got we got some beef, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna take that out of there and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you mean he Toledo. They can do something for the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys. So we'll see, we'll see. Okay, Look, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how much how much how much more realistic

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say perfect world and Church took my number

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<v Speaker 1>one pick that in the ideal world that would be

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<v Speaker 1>the guy. But you know, listen, this is gonna sound crazy,

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.159
<v Speaker 1>But if we're gonna run a three four defense, man,

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 1>my man uncle Wade is sitting out there just waiting

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:20.159
<v Speaker 1>for a job, waiting for a defense that he can

0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 1>get a hold of and take to a Super Bowl

0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 1>like he did out there in Denver. All right, And

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.760
<v Speaker 1>then we also have listen before I say this, I

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 1>want to explain that sometimes defensive coordinators and offensive coordinat

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.879
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they become head coaches and then they kind of

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.239
<v Speaker 1>lose track of what they're really built on, and then

0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.840
<v Speaker 1>they're not really as good as they had been previously.

0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna throw dan Quinn out there because I

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 1>know as a defensive as a defensive coordinator, as a

0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator, I've seen what he is able to do

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>when he's focusing solely on defense. Now, his head coaching

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and giving up leads and all that stuff, I'm not

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 1>sure about. But if you're gonna run a four three

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 1>defense and you want to get some stuff done, I

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:03.920
<v Speaker 1>would say I would take a look at dan Quinn.

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:11.120
<v Speaker 1>No negative, Well, dan Quinn took over the defense. Um

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 1>last season or twenty nineteen, he took over the defense

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and then failed spectacularly, and then gave it to Ring

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Morris and then they improved. So yeah, he couldn't even

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.439
<v Speaker 1>call defenses anymore. So and then we just made him

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>to focus. We just wanted to focus solely on defense.

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel I feel as though people have caught up

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 1>to that Seattle skin. Um Gus brad thing out with

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers, that that thing has been a mess, and

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>then they're all getting get ready to get fired there. Um,

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Seattle is not what's winning games. A defense is not

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>what it's winning games of Seattle now. And that's even

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 1>with them getting Jamal Adams in there. So so that

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.640
<v Speaker 1>defensive thing is not the same. And oh, by the way,

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Gus Bradley and and Dan Quinn were coaching a defense

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>that was good to secondary, Uh, this ain't it here.

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>He coming here, he got a whole lot of pieces

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>he can't bring with him. So, oh, listen, we're talking

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>about revapping the whole defense. This is y'all's planning. Revamp

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the defense. Make sure you put your players in position

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 1>to succeed. And you walk in here and you got

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.440
<v Speaker 1>d law you got Randy Gregor, you're talking about remapping

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the secondary. You got Jalon Smith, you got late Vanderish.

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I think you give Dan Quinney these pieces, which some

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>of them are similar to guys that he had in Seattle,

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and I think he could make something happen. I still don't.

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I still think we shouldn't have got rid of Christian Shard,

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 1>who runs something similar. H So, I just that's my

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>name that I would throw out there as a possibility.

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I got a question now, is is Romeo? Is Romeo

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Cornell available or is he still because he is he

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>coaching somewhere right now. He will be the interim coach

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>in Houston, but I imagine what he'll do is remain

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 1>in Houston as some type of consultant because he and

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the owner are cool. But Romeo is another guy running

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 1>at three to four. Um. I just think that I

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 1>just don't see the Cowboys being able to run a

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>three four and pay Dak Prescott because you got that

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>three four. But what do you got to have? You

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>need man corners. Man corners cost a lot of money.

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.399
<v Speaker 1>And I remember Bill Polly and talking about when he

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>was with the Colts that they had spent so much

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 1>money on offense. One reason why they had made the

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:22.640
<v Speaker 1>change from from Vic Fangio and more as the head

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 1>coach over to Tony Dungee was that they were running

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, they were having more of zones and it

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 1>was cheaper to get the corners and you could actually

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>get them out there a whole lot quicker. But you

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>saved money. I mean, you do that man thing, you know,

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, are you ready to sit up here and

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>pay guys? They didn't want to pay Byron Jones. So

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know if they can afford to do

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.360
<v Speaker 1>that in terms of the kind of costs it would

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>take for the three four defense and also just the

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 1>resources you need. You know, the cowboys from Parcels was here,

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>they run at three four and running away. They were

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:54.479
<v Speaker 1>spending that kind of money on defense. They were using

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 1>number one picks on defense. They want to do that here.

0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:00.119
<v Speaker 1>They want to be got to show you won't have

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the money after you signed that. I mean, that's that's

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the kink right there, right the kink. So so stop

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>so right there, uncle, Wait people, Okay, that's what I'm saying.

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 1>I gotta list, Okay, I gotta litt You've got a

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>guy in the building right now. And George Jetwards who

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>was there with Zimmer at Minnesota, And I don't know

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 1>if anybody notices that defense was not the same this year,

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and George Edwards was out there with Zim doing that.

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>So he's the guy who's now with the Cowboys. I

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>would consider him. Um, Joe Witt is a guy that

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy was going to bring here. In fact, I'm

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>told Joe Witt, who was with McCarthy and Green Bay,

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>was told he get the DC job, but then it

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 1>went to Mike Nolan. Now with is not you know,

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>so he's not there. Um, you know, with with McCarthy.

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Let me figure out where did I see? Where is Joe?

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I know what happened last time I brought one of

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.719
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy's buddies in here. Yeah, I was gonna say if

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>if McCarthy, I don't know, I don't know, man, I

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't be a part of this process. Man,

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>defensive guy Church Church, he listened to guy that's previously

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that is currently in the building with this. Okay, okay,

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that's good. That's a good that's good. Now offline, offline,

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>we can have a conversation about that about Intel offline,

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>about about with that one. So this is what I

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>got on h on Joe with he's now the Falcon Secondary.

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>He's with the Falcon Secondary and um um saying, sayce

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy had told him he'd be the DC, but when

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>he hired Nolan, Joe was not happy, says Joe is

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that dude should have been a defensive coordinator a couple

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>of years ago and McCarthy blocked it. So that's a

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>name right there. Aubrey Pleasant, who's the cornerback coach with

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the Rams. I think we've seen the Rams run a

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty good defense this year. So there's some guys there.

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>And before I bring in dan Quinn to run my defense,

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I'd bring in a guy who was running the defense

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 1>better than dan Quinn was doing it in Atlanta, and

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>that was Raheem Morris. You know, they're they're all about

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>to get right out of the tea. So there's some names.

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>There's some names right there. And look, I don't know

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>how the Cowboys and how sort of people feel about

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Chris Richard. My issue with Chris Richard was that Richard

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>was trying to marry his system and Marion Ellie system,

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and you just can't blend two systems together. If they

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>were gonna let Marion Ellie, I mean, let let Chris

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>do it, they should have let Chris do it. One

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>of the things he wanted to do was bring him

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>linebacker coach Michael Barrow to be that guy he'd worked

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>with in Seattle. They're like, no, no, we're gonna go

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>with Ben Bloom. I mean, we all saw how how bad. Okay,

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>we all saw that. Hold on, hold on, hold on,

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>because listen, I heard you. I keep hearing you talking

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>about Raheem More? Was raheem More something with Jerome Henderson

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>up there stinking up to joint uh in their secondary

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>when they was like thirty second in the league a

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago. Was that? Is this the Raheem

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>More is that we're talking about talking about him? Over?

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Dan quick give give quinn. He was the coach. He

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>was said, I think he taught twenty eighteen maybe twenty

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:40.959
<v Speaker 1>eighteen up there stinking it up. Man. Listen, listen, let

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>let Dan dan Quinn is trash that whole brother Quinn

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn ain't been the same since Tom Brady and

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 1>then just ruined his life. He ain't been the same since.

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's take a break. You're right, you right, so we're

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>something back. Let's dive into Kellen Moore. Let's dive into

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<v Speaker 1>you know our boy Church loves reality TV and McCray

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<v Speaker 1>too as well. So hey, fellas, find out why this

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, fellas up making the Team? Um, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna for twa I'm not gonna hate on them, man,

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>because when that cheerleader show came on Netflix, I watched.

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I've been watched the whole season, all right, So I'm

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>sure if I sit down and watched Making the Team

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>for the Dallas Cowboys, I'll probably get into it. But

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>right now my play is a little full. Which which

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>cheerleaders show? Was that? The one? Was that? The one

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>with those the did Juko over there and uh here

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>in technas? Yeah? College, Yeah, yeah, that was that one

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I watched. Yeah, you saw what happened to your boy

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>jar a couple of weeks ago, didn't you hold on?

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>First of all, that that's reality TV. You watched it? Yeah, yeah,

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that's all okay, all right, because because you know, you

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>make it sound like you don't watch no reality TV. Yeah,

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>my children were watching it on the slides. I was like,

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>let me get up in here and figure out what

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 1>it is. Oh, oh okay, Yeah, yeah, you we watched

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 1>the whole season. I did. I watched it, watched it

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.959
<v Speaker 1>all because I also I'm I'm I'm one of those

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.320
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not a cheerleading person at all. And you know,

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:36.479
<v Speaker 1>I watched Bring It On all. I'm like, oh gosh,

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>this is terrible. And my youngest is that's the last one.

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 1>If I get that one away from it, I'm gonna

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>be okay. But yeah, I watched it. So but that

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 1>guy Jerry It recently got arrested for um child pornography charges. Goodness. Yeah,

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, yeah he's in, He is in. He got

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 1>a world of trouble. Um got a little bit boys

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 1>sending pictures and stuff. So yeah, that that guy from

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>that show is yeah, send him to jail. Got arrested

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>up there in Chicago is a couple of weeks back.

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I tweeted the story out. But let's talk

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>about the Cowboys. Yes, let's talk about the Cowboys offense. Uh.

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore up for the Boise State job. He spoke

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 1>to the media yesterday. Um, you know, very vague, but

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:26.320
<v Speaker 1>at the same time say, hey, look it's special to

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 1>place that you know, I'm from, the opportunity I would

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>look at which is what you what you'd expect. He's like,

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm concentrating on this. Let it play out. YadA ya da,

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>which to me is all coach speak for yeah, I'll

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>take the job. I loved that. I hope they offered

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>to him. So if Kellen Moore gets a job, and

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to believe that he will, because right now

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>they save the candidates for Kellen Moore and then the

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator Oregon who is also a former Boysey State player.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 1>But usually these offensive guys are whose schools want versus

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the defensive guys. So Kellen Moore takes a job. Mccraig,

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>who should be the offensive coordinator next year? Goodness great?

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>The my dan Quinn, the opinion got shut down. I

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>might you know, I might need to be quiet. No, king, listen,

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the first first first stuff for a selection should be

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>me because I'm giving the ball to twenty one and nineteen.

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>But since I'm not available because my play is full

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.919
<v Speaker 1>and I'm running these these U camps, I would say

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I would say my first look realistically would be the

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Alabama Crimson Tides offensive coordinator Steve Star Sarkeesian. All Right,

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:31.879
<v Speaker 1>we see that that Joe Brady can get some stuff done. Yes, man,

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>have you seen the offense Knui? Have you seen what

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 1>they've been able to put together and the guys and

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>he's been able to develop? All right, I'm going with

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 1>him first. And then uh, you know, was it Brian

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Doble for the Bills? If we can get them up

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:46.359
<v Speaker 1>out of there, those guys have been able to turn Uh,

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen and Digs and Cole Beasley and and Singletary

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and Zach Mass they've been they've turned into a real

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>nice offense. So those are the two two guys that

0:36:56.280 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at first. I don't know, man, I don't

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>know what one thing with Kelly about his job before

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I touch on this OC thing. He definitely got that boys.

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>He stage job. I mean, when you got guys like

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Jones back in you saying, hey, we had to

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>we had to put the Brakes on him a little bit,

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>or he would explode it too much. When you got guys,

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:19.839
<v Speaker 1>he got the job, he got the job. But for me, man,

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. I'm not sure who we bring in

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>here as an offensive coordinator. Man, I think it's got

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 1>to be somebody who values the run game more than

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore did. Seeing is that we had the ninety

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>million dollars. We got so much invested in Zeke, and

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>there's no way we can get out of the contract,

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I believe until I think twenty twenty three. So we

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>got to bring somebody in here who values the run

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 1>game and who he's created with the run game. And

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>to me, that might be a guy like Greg Roman.

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look what he's doing up there in Baltimore. Yes,

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:49.840
<v Speaker 1>he has Lamar Jackson and all that good stuff, but

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.399
<v Speaker 1>the way he's able to have his creative run game

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and confusing defenses we've seen with how it confused our

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>defense up there, I think that'd be a good staple

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>piece for this offense. Especially Zeke Elliott back there with

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>his ninety million dollars. He'd make the best out of him.

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I think he'd be a good candidate. Hello, let me

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>preface my pick. Let me preface my pick by saying this,

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy should be calling the plays next season. Steve

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Sarkisian should be here to learn and help Mike McCarthy

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>do some things that he hasn't seen at the college

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 1>level and bring some creativity. Mike McCarthy should should be

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 1>the guy holding that car and making those play calls

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>next season. Okay, Okay, Can I start with Sarkisian? Absolutely? Okay.

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Steve was Dan Quinn's coordinator for two years in Atlantic,

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 1>so so he's been to the proms and he went

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>back to Alabama. So from what I have seen from

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.439
<v Speaker 1>Sark and what I've been reading from people like Bruce

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Fellman who cover college football, Sarks kind of waiting on

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>another collegiate job and coming here to watch Mike McCarthy

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>call plays is not something that I think he would do.

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe is he a bad hire? Is he a

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 1>bad hire? Would he be? Would he be it? Would

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>he be a bad hire? Yes? And here's here, here's

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 1>why I think Mike McCarthy should be calling plays. And

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I think Mike McCarthy wants to call plays. I think

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy would like a situation like what Andy Reid

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>is doing in Kansas City. Where Andy's here, he's got

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>an offensive coordinator and a guy who helps build the

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>game play, who works with a lot. But then you're

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>on game day, he's going to get out there. You

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>can pull out that Loue sheet look at and call

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>his plays. I think that's what he wants to do.

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 1>What's what we see with Sean Payton doing here. So

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I think Mike McCarthy is just like those guys. So

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe you make Doug Nutsmier. You're a quote unquote offensive

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>coordinator while while Mike has calling the plays. That's what

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I envision, That's what I think will happen here. So

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>if I'm a guy like Sark, I don't touch this.

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 1>If I'm Sark, I mean to me, if you're Sark,

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>the best thing to do is stay where you're at

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 1>an Alabama because you probably are gonna get yourself a

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>head coach again. Um, it happened for Mike Loxley, so

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 1>so I would say, if I'm sorry, just just hang

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>out where you are. You just saw DeVante Smith be

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>named the Associated Press College Football Player of the Year

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:15.359
<v Speaker 1>and Matt Jones finished second Alabama quarterback. So there's two

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>guys right there, so I wouldn't be touching the pros.

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.720
<v Speaker 1>I'd stay right well, get ready to get busy agetting

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 1>college football, where he was once a head coach at

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Washington and USC. It was new, costing him those jobs

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 1>well new. The question. The question was who would we

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 1>like to see? I know, sorry, probably ain't coming here,

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>but if I want, that's that's why I want to

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>see come here. It's the smart thing for ever do. Yeah,

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 1>what would be to stay in college because he's he's

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 1>running up, just like Damo Semina who's probably never gonna

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 1>leave college because he's running it, running stuff over there. Uh,

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 1>at Clemson, they shouldn't come here. But if I if

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to see, you know, some new blood coming

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>here and some creative things, then I'm going to the

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 1>college level to bring something different to help Mike McCarthy out.

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, but I want McCarthy, but you

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:07.839
<v Speaker 1>want McCarthy call a plays too, right? Absolutely? Yeah, okay, yeah,

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and that yeah, that's that's my thing is is and

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 1>to me, this is his opportunity in the now. Nuts

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Meyer has been a successful college um coordinator as well,

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>so I actually I have a favorable opinion of him.

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And look, I don't know what happened with John Kittner

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:26.919
<v Speaker 1>and why McCarthy didn't want to keep him, but if

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 1>you were able to make Doug nusts Meyer your go

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>from quarterback coach the offensive coordinator, you brought back a

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 1>guy like Kittna who Dak Prescott had so much uh

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.959
<v Speaker 1>in common and connection with, that'd be that'd be good, Bobby.

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>But we'll see, we'll see McCarthy's got his list of

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 1>guys from the barn and we'll see what he does.

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>But I just I just think the guy wants to

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>call call plays there. Booker McFarlane was on ESPN and

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:56.800
<v Speaker 1>he decided that Dwayne Haskins, Dwayne Haskins is a problem

0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and that Dwayne Haskins and other black players are all

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:02.800
<v Speaker 1>like Dwayne Haskins where they're concerned about their brand and

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:06.399
<v Speaker 1>they don't put in the work. And yeah, he went

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 1>places that were frankly embarrassing. I just thought they were embarrassing.

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>And he thought he was killing them too with his

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 1>take too. This is gonna hit, this is gonna hit

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 1>their ear. Drums man, They're gonna feel every word I'm saying,

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, man, look, man, I don't think

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you should have went that hard on the kid. Like

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, Man, Look, he made

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a mistake. Was it a dumb mistake? Yes, it was

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>an immature mistake, yes, But the kid was twenty two

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>years old. Man. It ain't like he's riding around here,

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, drunk driving, running into people, killing people, or

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 1>bringing handguns in there. He made a mistake, and look,

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>it cost him his job at the end of the day.

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:43.799
<v Speaker 1>That should be it. Man. You shouldn't rope him into

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>all this other new you know, we got brands and

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the African American community doesn't know how to how to

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>basically win and all this other stuff. I you know,

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I just think he went a little bit too hard

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 1>on to get kid. Man. He made a mistake, and

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>hopefully he gets a second chance somewhere. Yeah. Look, I

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>don't care to you write church, but I don't care

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 1>how hard he went on Dwayne Haskins, When you make

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 1>this a general thing of African American players in the

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:11.399
<v Speaker 1>NFL not being able to focus on more than one

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 1>thing at once, building your brand, working hard, making some money,

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and also being discipline enough to show up and be

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>professional and saying that this is a huge problem throughout

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Then you made a mistake, especially when you

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 1>just basing it off what Dwayne Haskins did. All three

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>of us can come and we can name a plethora

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 1>of guys who have been able to do everything that

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 1>book of McFarland said that they couldn't do and also

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>be professional, show up, win super Bowls, win MVPs, and

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 1>do all types of things. So to me, it just

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.800
<v Speaker 1>makes no sense for him to rope in the entire

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>African African American community in the NFL and say that

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 1>this is this is what most of us are doing,

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and this is how most of us act once we

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:53.399
<v Speaker 1>get to the league, and that's why stuff doesn't work

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>for us. Doesn't make sense. He's absolutely wrong and made

0:43:56.719 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 1>no sense. And I was ashamed to hear one of

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>my LSU guys sound like that. My first thought when

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I actually watched the clip on Twitter because I didn't

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 1>watch it live, I'm like, Dad, that's why Booker mcfarlo's

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>not doing money that football, because he would go on

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 1>money saying some crazy doing. I'm saying some more crazy stuff.

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Look Dwayne Haskins earned the flogging he's taken. Okay, he's earned,

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 1>But to turn it around and make it seem as

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>though it's old. You just what happened When you get

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>these negroes in here. They can't getting on Twitter and

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 1>putting Instagram photos themselves, and they can't concentrate. That's how

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it came off to me. And lord knows, if there

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>was a white general manager somebody saying that white broadcaster,

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 1>they that person would have paid dearly for saying those

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of comments, because it was asinine and ignorant. Okay,

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>that's what it was. It was asinine and ignorant. There

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 1>are too many guys in this league, black and white,

0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:00.399
<v Speaker 1>as Danny said, who've been able to build brains, who've

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.800
<v Speaker 1>been able to do both. And there are also plenty

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.240
<v Speaker 1>of guys that we could point to besides a Dwayne

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Haskins who took their opportunity and flushed it down the toilet.

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Anybody remember Johnny Football, Okay, Johnny Football out here with drugs,

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Football, I here skipping and hopping to Vegas with

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Cat Dui drinking in draft. You know you know that

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:23.279
<v Speaker 1>they said he was out here beating his girl. I mean,

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Johnny had a whole bunch of stuff talk about who

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 1>got flushing away his opportunity. It is not just black players,

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>it is players in general across every sport. We can

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 1>go and look and say, hey, look this guy didn't

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 1>do this and this to make it seem as though

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 1>it's an African American thing is but black guys. That's

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the part that was distasteful. Like, dude, dude, hold on, now, okay,

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 1>this is not just some racial thing here where you

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 1>black guys. No, it's players in general, and it's players

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 1>at every sport. In fact, it's you go look at

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the entertainment industry and I worked in LA I can

0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 1>tell you plenty of people who blue opportunities who because

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 1>they weren't focused on the jobs. I mean, this is

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.760
<v Speaker 1>a This is that I can tell your TV industry.

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it happens. It happens. And to go how

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.839
<v Speaker 1>deep he went instead of just sticking to the topics, Hey,

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Dwayne Haskins blew his opportunity through immaturity and deserve to

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>get fired that he should have just kept it there

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 1>when he just tried to generalize it to me, I

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 1>just think he went way out of bounds. And that's

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 1>that's Booker, That's just what he does. It's why he

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>got fired from money football, church, church. You know what

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 1>he saund like, Like I brought this up earlier. He

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 1>sound like one of them old school haters. Man. They

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>hating on the new school. Yeah, and they got social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Like things are different, you know what I'm saying. Like

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<v Speaker 1>people make money a different way posting stuff on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>and Instagram. Ain't nothing wrong with that. The Internet is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest ways to make money now and

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<v Speaker 1>grow your platform to do good things or band well

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<v Speaker 1>however you want to do it. But that's the new generations, man.

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<v Speaker 1>So he just sound like one of them dudes, hating

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't have had and stuff available to him

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day and looking at the young guys

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<v Speaker 1>going out here and doing it and making these selds

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<v Speaker 1>better and growing their platform in ways that he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>and just hating on him. Bro, No hate, You ain't

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<v Speaker 1>got to hate. Bro. Beat me happy for the next generation.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron will be a thirty five or thirty six tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a heavy social media presence. Tiger Woods is

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<v Speaker 1>over forty years old. He'll you know he'll be forty

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<v Speaker 1>maybe forty four, forty five tomorrow. I got the same

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<v Speaker 1>day Saint Birthday as Lebron James Scember thirty. Um, these

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<v Speaker 1>guys have been able to do both. Um, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just it was just a crazy comment. But as I said, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just Booker just saying what he does. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just think it's wrong. I'll be look a

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<v Speaker 1>look at a guy like Jayalen Smith who ended up

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<v Speaker 1>going back to order dame it. We know Jalen has

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<v Speaker 1>been building his brand. We've seen Tank Lawrence building his brand.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen Baker Mayfield, Baker Mayfields put out his brand.

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<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield got commercials all day long. He just got

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<v Speaker 1>drilled by the Jets. Um, so you know you're beating

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<v Speaker 1>up on it. That's true. You know what's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did Jayalen not have a good year this season because

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<v Speaker 1>he was building his brand? That's what you know. Guys

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<v Speaker 1>can do both and you can have good seasons, you

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<v Speaker 1>can have bad seasons. You have ups and downs. But

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<v Speaker 1>to take Dwayne Haskins and basically say it's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>race of people, Um, that's crazy. That's crazy. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>back at it, we'll get back at it tomorrow. I

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<v Speaker 1>got some bad news for Church where we have the

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<v Speaker 1>Players Lounge tomorrow. Um, that's how you leave. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>just it's what it is. It's just gonna be this way.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why we're gonna get into it tomorrow on

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<v Speaker 1>the Players Lives Humpday edition as we get ready for

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys Eagles Cowboys Giants, which will be at MetLife Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>and the Cowboys need the Eagles to defeat Washington to

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<v Speaker 1>make it to the playoffs. For Barry Church, Danny mcrant,

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