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Speaker 1: time Cowboys reported, joined by Barry Church and Danny McCray. Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: we spent so much time allowing Barry to take that
Speaker 1: victory lap yesterday. We failed to give credit to a
Speaker 1: guy who had a good game that was very underrated
Speaker 1: in the win, and that is Special Teams Ace who
Speaker 1: played a lot of defense. C J. Good. So, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: let's peak that praise on old CJ. His partner. Big
Speaker 1: win over the Eagles. We gotta get go ahead, Dan
Speaker 1: mc go ahead. They called Barry Church nostradamins. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna take this one because I've been calling
Speaker 1: this man the MVP of the Dallas Cowboys football team
Speaker 1: four weeks now, and they and they put him out there,
Speaker 1: and they had them specifically out there to spy on
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, and I think that changed the game. It
Speaker 1: forced Jalen Hurts to stay in the pocket a little
Speaker 1: bit longer than he wanted two and allow our pass
Speaker 1: rush to get there and allow our coverage to be
Speaker 1: in the right position to get those interceptions. So he
Speaker 1: went out there, he changed the game the same way
Speaker 1: he's been doing all year. And a shout out to him,
Speaker 1: and he's still the MVP in the only pro bo
Speaker 1: snub on the Dallas Cowboys football team. Hey man, good
Speaker 1: good stuff for CJ out there. You right, We forgot
Speaker 1: to show our boys some love. He was one of
Speaker 1: our first guests here on the Players Lounge last year,
Speaker 1: and I mean he's been a special team's demon this
Speaker 1: whole year, whether it be covering kicks down and kicks
Speaker 1: inside the twenty, doing reverse passes, taking it down the sidelines.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been a special teams demon. And then
Speaker 1: they threw him in on defense and I didn't even
Speaker 1: notice the small little wrinkle that Mike Nolan put in
Speaker 1: there having him back there at safety and as the snapper.
Speaker 1: As the play progressed, he slowly crept down into that
Speaker 1: kind of quarterback spy position and we all know he
Speaker 1: has world class feed, so it wasn't like Hurtch was
Speaker 1: gonna be able to run away from him. But I mean,
Speaker 1: they did a great job adding him in on the defense,
Speaker 1: and he's just been a stud all year round. I mean,
Speaker 1: not a lot of people noticed him because of special teams,
Speaker 1: but this guy's been a stud for the team all
Speaker 1: year round. And like, like Danny said, he was the
Speaker 1: only snub on the Cowboys roster as far as Pro
Speaker 1: Bowls concerned, who did make the Pro Bowl over him?
Speaker 1: I forgot I want to say it was. It wasn't
Speaker 1: Matt Slater because you know he's always at a special
Speaker 1: teams gay, but that's AFC. I'm not sure who made
Speaker 1: it in I'm not sure who may maybe well, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: here's an other tough thing for a guy like c J. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you're a losing team, you guys to know this
Speaker 1: because you play the game. It's hard. It's hard to
Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl, you know it just just losing
Speaker 1: teams is it's tough, and we do it. And we
Speaker 1: have seen in the past when the Cowboys win, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys get a lot of guys on the Pro Bowls.
Speaker 1: So you know, for a guy like CJ. Hopefully he's
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty one and the Cowboys have a
Speaker 1: winning record, then he's going to have that better opportunity
Speaker 1: to make it on special teams. But you know, so
Speaker 1: many times that's how a big chunk of this goes
Speaker 1: into who makes the Pro Bowl squad. And you know,
Speaker 1: you get lucky, you know, you gotta be, you know,
Speaker 1: extraordinarily a big time name like a Deshaun Watson to
Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl on a losing team like he
Speaker 1: did this year. And Ryan Tannehill was all mad about
Speaker 1: how he did make it. But um, you know, I
Speaker 1: think we all saw Deshaun Watson was out there by himself. Yes,
Speaker 1: absolutely by him. I mean, to answer your question, he
Speaker 1: was Nick Blore from the Seattle Seahawks, who was the
Speaker 1: special teams pro bowler for the NFC. Gotcha listen. It
Speaker 1: also doesn't help when your team cuts you before the year.
Speaker 1: You know, you kind of help along the way there,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's and hopefully c J can get
Speaker 1: some real most of all, and Danny, you know you
Speaker 1: know this well, the special teams was your thing. You
Speaker 1: can get some respect in your own locker room, you know, that.
Speaker 1: That's what I hope CJ. Goodwin can get out of
Speaker 1: this twenty twenty season. It's just some respect from the organization. No, No, listen, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that they have a respect for him.
Speaker 1: But as Barry knows, and you're covering, the Cowboys know
Speaker 1: that safe the safety position is one of the positions
Speaker 1: that is not really that invested in when it comes
Speaker 1: to dollars and long contracts and special teams. Is also
Speaker 1: one of those positions to where the Cowboys have not
Speaker 1: been able to keep their stars special teams players and
Speaker 1: stack those guys up so they can have guys like
Speaker 1: CJ on the roster for long periods of time, kind
Speaker 1: of like a team like um the New New England Patriots.
Speaker 1: So I hope that this is the year that we
Speaker 1: kind of turned the corner and realized how important a
Speaker 1: guy like CJ is. But if history, you know, tells
Speaker 1: us anything, then he might be headed somewhere else. He
Speaker 1: needs a gimmick, man, he needs one of those. I mean,
Speaker 1: knew what you were around here? When who was the
Speaker 1: guy back in the day? Man? It was I think
Speaker 1: it was Kenny the Shark. Yeah, he think't in there
Speaker 1: doing his little shark dads like yeah, yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: needs this little gimmick man, just to get him a
Speaker 1: little bit more TV time, and then I'm sure he'll
Speaker 1: be able to turn the corner and get cjes CJ.
Speaker 1: He even going to come out. He ain't about to
Speaker 1: do that, man, And listen, if they don't respect him
Speaker 1: for his play on the field right now, he don't
Speaker 1: need to go out there and do no shark man.
Speaker 1: So hey, them shark dads might put a couple of
Speaker 1: extra mill in your pocket. May I don't know. Look, Look,
Speaker 1: I mean I was there for it, man. I remember.
Speaker 1: I mean Kenny the Shark Gant was so popular. I
Speaker 1: mean he had a radio show. I mean, man, people
Speaker 1: loved that dude. And when when it was Special Team's time,
Speaker 1: you know, people were in the stands, you know, watching
Speaker 1: him dance do his thing. So I'm just saying, uh,
Speaker 1: it was it was a niche that he took and
Speaker 1: fans loved it. I mean even when pat Man Jones
Speaker 1: was here, you know Pat Man Jones, people wanted to
Speaker 1: see him in the return game. And I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: I was wrong, but I thought Tavon Austin could have
Speaker 1: been a guy who who got people going into return games.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen that way. But like I said, I thought,
Speaker 1: but taking this a little bit further out here on
Speaker 1: the players lauch Boty by hotels dot Com. We saw
Speaker 1: some uptick from the defensive back and we've seen it
Speaker 1: now in three football games, and my jaw remember it
Speaker 1: against rookie Jalen Hurts. It's against uh Nick Mullins. None
Speaker 1: of these three players will be starting for their teams
Speaker 1: if they can get their starting quarterbacks back next year.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I don't think they are. Maybe Hurts,
Speaker 1: but I doubt I doubt it because they got so
Speaker 1: much investing in Carson Wentz. I think they'd like to
Speaker 1: try and make it work with them first. But do
Speaker 1: you bring these guys back? Do you blow it up?
Speaker 1: What do you do with your secondary next year? With
Speaker 1: just one game to go? What do you think they
Speaker 1: should do? McCraw? Wait, wait, so I know Nick Mullins
Speaker 1: didn't start the next game after he played US, so
Speaker 1: that's already off the table. And did Brandon Allen start
Speaker 1: the next same? Yeah, he played, he falled out and
Speaker 1: against balled out and any player. Yeah he played okay,
Speaker 1: so so Nick so so. Nick Mullins is already off.
Speaker 1: It's not happening all right, So listen, It's like I said,
Speaker 1: it's hard to make those plays no matter who's playing quarterback.
Speaker 1: It's it's been some guys out there. Like you said,
Speaker 1: Brandon Allen goes out there next week and play as
Speaker 1: well against Houston, and you never would have thought that
Speaker 1: would have happened. The way that he gave them, gave
Speaker 1: the turn up was over to us. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: when you have those opportunities to make those plays and
Speaker 1: you make them, you deserve all the credit in the world.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't change what happened previously throughout the season
Speaker 1: and with your dB coaches and these guys getting you know,
Speaker 1: bombed on balls, going over the head, getting you know,
Speaker 1: blonde coverages and simple stuff like cover three and cover four.
Speaker 1: None of that stuff changes that, right, So they made
Speaker 1: some plays, but it needs to be some reconstruction going
Speaker 1: on in that secondary just to make sure that this
Speaker 1: is not our Achilles Hill next season. Reconstruction that they
Speaker 1: need to throw a TNT whole secondary room and blow
Speaker 1: that thing up. I mean, look, I only see maybe
Speaker 1: two two people coming back from this secondary and I
Speaker 1: would be Wilson, who he's shown. He's shown that he
Speaker 1: can be that playmaker. He needs to. He needs to
Speaker 1: fine tune his coverage a little bit and kind of
Speaker 1: get his game under control as far as getting penalties
Speaker 1: and late hits in that nature. But you can ride
Speaker 1: with a guy like that who goes one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour, no matter what position it is, no matter
Speaker 1: what snap it is, no matter what time in the
Speaker 1: game it is. He's going one hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 1: So you can live with that. You can go to
Speaker 1: war with that, and then the other guy has to
Speaker 1: be trade on days. I mean, yes, he had his
Speaker 1: ups and downs. He's been getting beat by four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: but he's also fought and came back. I mean, look
Speaker 1: the receiving corps he had to go against his first
Speaker 1: six games as an NFL. I mean he had Julio Jones,
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett cut from LA, he had Roods.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had a lineup of receivers that I
Speaker 1: don't know any veteran corner would be able to go
Speaker 1: up there and have success again, So this guy had
Speaker 1: his ups and downs. But he's done enough to be
Speaker 1: able to come back and I think be that number
Speaker 1: one corner for the secondary. But the rest of those guys, Whosier, Woods,
Speaker 1: Jay Lou want to throw in there. I think it's
Speaker 1: time for them to, you know, go look elsewhere. I
Speaker 1: think it will benefit like like the restkins say, it'll
Speaker 1: benefit both parties. Hadn't separate, all right, So so we
Speaker 1: need to blow this thing up and bring those two
Speaker 1: back and see what happens. I got five, got you
Speaker 1: got five? Five? Yeah? Five? Okay, go ahead, name those guys.
Speaker 1: Please dig Diggs is one, obviously, yes, Tray digs Um.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing back Darian Thompson because he's a backup in
Speaker 1: my opinion, and you put him in a backup role
Speaker 1: and he's making one point three million dollars in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one, so I'm bringing him back. I'll bring it
Speaker 1: back Wilson in twenty twenty one as a backup. He's
Speaker 1: making eight hundred and eighty one thousand dollars. I'm bringing
Speaker 1: back Striker. I'll bring it back Wilson. I'll bring it
Speaker 1: back Anthony Brown. Anthony Brown next year got a salary
Speaker 1: of five point seven million dollars and I'm looking at him.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of money, a lot of bread. Um, Look,
Speaker 1: what do I need in this league. I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: three guys, are gonna need some debt. So you've paid him,
Speaker 1: and my hope is that a new defensive coordinator can
Speaker 1: get something out of him. But I'm bringing him back, Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm bringing him back and I'll bring it. I'll
Speaker 1: bring it back Reggie Robins, and for seven hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety two thousand dollars, here's a guy that you've already
Speaker 1: vested in and hopefully with a full offseason, the kid
Speaker 1: from Tulsa can give you something on special teams and
Speaker 1: give you something as a defensive back. So those are
Speaker 1: the guys I bringing back. What I do need. I
Speaker 1: need another starting corner on the other side of digs.
Speaker 1: I need a starting I need two starting safeties. So
Speaker 1: so I go to at least three to possibly four
Speaker 1: guys to go with these other dudes. I'll bring it back.
Speaker 1: I got two questions. I got two questions. Is Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown's contract guarantee because you know, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: he might have had his first two years guarantee. Because
Speaker 1: I know he's having the three for fifteen, but I
Speaker 1: want to know if his second year is guaranteed. If so,
Speaker 1: then yes, he'll have to be back. And then my
Speaker 1: second question is you bringing Reggie Robinson back? He could
Speaker 1: practice squad, practice squad. Okay, all right, all right, never listen.
Speaker 1: This year has made us forget that there is a
Speaker 1: practice squad, so we could bring we could bring them back,
Speaker 1: put him on practice squad, kind of developed them, kind
Speaker 1: of like we did Teddy Williams back in the day.
Speaker 1: You can still get him, you know, get him that way.
Speaker 1: Uh and NEWI I think you also are correct on
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. I think he's played well enough that he
Speaker 1: deserves another shot, you know, hopefully with a new defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator or at least new defensive back coach that can
Speaker 1: really get the most out of these guys. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Traymon Diggs, Anthony Brown h woods. You know, he's a
Speaker 1: no go for me because you know, he went out
Speaker 1: and embarrassed the whole defensive staff really about telling people
Speaker 1: that he couldn't hustle for for a full game. That's
Speaker 1: just going to stick with me, you know, as long
Speaker 1: as he's here. And it makes no sense. But yet
Speaker 1: Wilson and Thompson, I think you still give those guys
Speaker 1: a shot. You bring them back and see what happens
Speaker 1: because they are on team freendly dials. And you said,
Speaker 1: if we plan on signing break Dak Prescott, then we're
Speaker 1: going to need to be on some have some team
Speaker 1: friendly deals going on. Thompson gonna be starting if we
Speaker 1: bring Prescott back. Church. Here's your here's some numbers here
Speaker 1: for over the cap. On Anthony Brown, he's got a
Speaker 1: cat number next years at five point seven five million dollars.
Speaker 1: It's he takes up two point eight percent of the cat.
Speaker 1: That's not a lot. If you cut him before June first,
Speaker 1: it costs you three million dollars. If you're cutting him after,
Speaker 1: it's two point seven million dollars. And for me, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking right now he's going to be my third quarter.
Speaker 1: At five point seven million dollars, that's not a lot.
Speaker 1: You go when you look at Trevon dig he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a high number next year because he was a
Speaker 1: first round draft pick. And then I'm gonna go out
Speaker 1: most likely draft or sign another cornerback here. So for
Speaker 1: my corner room, that's not a lot. Of money, considering
Speaker 1: how many teams you're going to face in the NFL
Speaker 1: that want to throw the football. I just don't think
Speaker 1: that Anthony Brown is killing me. I don't look at
Speaker 1: him and say, oh my gosh, this dude is you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's so put it like this. You'll ask Jaylen
Speaker 1: Smith to take a pay cut, and you'll figure out
Speaker 1: a way to lessen his money, then you will. Anthony Brown,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, that's true, that's true. I just think
Speaker 1: he's as I think of him as a three and
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys, I think of him
Speaker 1: as a three. I think of as a guy that
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna need some nickels and dime packages
Speaker 1: and so that's you know. Can he be one of
Speaker 1: my top three four dB corners. Yeah, I think he
Speaker 1: can be that. But if you're looking at him to
Speaker 1: be a starter, then maybe you I think you might
Speaker 1: be a little bit. You might be a little bit often.
Speaker 1: And that's my thing about Wilson and Thompson. These guys
Speaker 1: as starters, you may not want them there as backups. Great,
Speaker 1: I mean that that that's just me. Um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would I would agree. I would agree with you on
Speaker 1: the Wilson, I mean on the Thompson. Think, if he's
Speaker 1: coming in, if we can keep him for that same
Speaker 1: kind of VET minimum deal, I think he'd be a
Speaker 1: valuable piece on that on that special team because, like
Speaker 1: like mcrais said earlier in the season, you know, we
Speaker 1: don't value special teams that much. We kind of just
Speaker 1: throw guys out there. But if we can keep a
Speaker 1: guy like Thompson on that VET minimum deal and have him,
Speaker 1: you know, not waste his energy on defense but basically
Speaker 1: be nothing but a special teams player, I can get
Speaker 1: down with that. I can have him being a backup
Speaker 1: but a b you know, I think you talked me
Speaker 1: into to him being that third corner because, like you said,
Speaker 1: five point seven for a third you know nickel start
Speaker 1: starting Nickel corner. That's that's mediocre money for for a
Speaker 1: starting Nickel corner. So I think he could the cap.
Speaker 1: Oh mediocre money, all right. So I said something about
Speaker 1: the contract months ago, and I got laughed off the show.
Speaker 1: Now he talking about mediocre about when we when we
Speaker 1: when we're talking about top ranked guys getting paid at
Speaker 1: the Nickel spot, they're getting paid you know, eleven and
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars at the nickel spot. So I would
Speaker 1: say five point seven is that that's that's mediocre, That's
Speaker 1: that's medium, good road. Listen, it's a real contract. It
Speaker 1: is a real contra. Oh May, that's crazy. Medio point
Speaker 1: four million. So it's one point four million for Dicks
Speaker 1: next year, and and then the cap hit on Brown
Speaker 1: next year's five point point seven. So that is that
Speaker 1: right there comes out about seven point two million for
Speaker 1: two of your top three starting corners. Um, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's good money in the national football And then so
Speaker 1: and I gotta think something on Wilson man, I just
Speaker 1: I just have a little bit more faith than him
Speaker 1: because my understanding is this guy essentially is a rookie
Speaker 1: because he's this is his first time really being a starter,
Speaker 1: and he went out there and made some serious plays, right,
Speaker 1: so he's you know, we're hoping that he's going to
Speaker 1: have a chance to go through a full offseason, learn
Speaker 1: a full defensive scheme, have a full training camp, and
Speaker 1: have this year under his belt, and I can only
Speaker 1: see him going up from here now. Albeit last year
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing about some of these dbs.
Speaker 1: So you know, in football, you never really know, but
Speaker 1: I can just see his ceiling being pretty high. As
Speaker 1: long as as long as they make sure they develop
Speaker 1: him the correct way and put him in positions to
Speaker 1: be successful. Well, Donovan Wilson should need to be a
Speaker 1: part of this conversation if you really think about standpoint
Speaker 1: of even not being back. I mean, here's a guy
Speaker 1: who's in his second year finally gets an opportunity. He's
Speaker 1: the cost for him said twenty twenty one is eight
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty one thousand dollars. In twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: it's nine hundred and sixty six thousand. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: for this kind of money and the production what we've
Speaker 1: seen so far, this is a good team friendly contract
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, and you need a guy like that.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying they're gonna bring in Earl Thomas,
Speaker 1: but just let's say you go and you get a
Speaker 1: guy like in Earl Thomas, and then you have a
Speaker 1: guy like Wilson. To me, that's a perfect spot where
Speaker 1: you got two guys back, or maybe you want Wilson
Speaker 1: has started one spot and you pay a little bit
Speaker 1: of money more money to Earl Thomas. But but you know,
Speaker 1: you have a cheaper guy there. And I go back
Speaker 1: to what I said before. If you're paying Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: you've got to find ways, and you've got to find
Speaker 1: some bargains on your football team and drafting guys, especially
Speaker 1: guys who are in that fifth, you know, fifth, sixth round,
Speaker 1: who could come in here and help you as backups.
Speaker 1: This is going to be the key towards managing this
Speaker 1: cap for the Cowboys. In my opinion, keep Earl Thomas well,
Speaker 1: yet keep L Thomas where he Keep Earl Thomas where
Speaker 1: he's away from the Dallas Cowboys. Please, Oh yeah, because look,
Speaker 1: if we pay, if we pay Prescott, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to do a lot of bargain shopping on the defense.
Speaker 1: And as a safety. I don't think we need that
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas or that Justin Simmons, that high priced safety.
Speaker 1: I think we need somebody in the in the tray,
Speaker 1: Boston realm, who's a solid safety, who can be that
Speaker 1: quarterback of the defense. Get these guys lined up, and
Speaker 1: someone who Wilson can learn after. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what we're gonna have to go since we're gonna give
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott probably fifty some millions, So I mean we're
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Speaker 1: they need a defensive coordinator next year. Let's throw about
Speaker 1: some names about who could be some replacements with those
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Speaker 1: I don't think that defensive coordinator Mike Nolan is coming back.
Speaker 1: I am not sold on what has happened in the
Speaker 1: last few weeks. It has been good for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to see, but I'm sorry it took a little bit
Speaker 1: too long to get there. I just don't think Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan is the guy. So if Mike Nolan's out, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: do you have any names of defensive coordinators that you
Speaker 1: would possibly like to see? Church, I'll start with you, man,
Speaker 1: I would love This is not gonna happen because I'm
Speaker 1: sure he'll get a head coaching job this offseason, but
Speaker 1: I would love to have a guy like Robert Sila,
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy open and with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: He just seems so energetic and just in tune with
Speaker 1: his players, and it seems like whoever's out there with him,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's lost so many cats out there. Whoever's
Speaker 1: out there with him, they seem to just be you know,
Speaker 1: they played for him and they go hard for him.
Speaker 1: So I would love that for a guy like that
Speaker 1: to come here, But like I said, I extremely doubt
Speaker 1: it because he'll probably get a head coaching job elsewhere.
Speaker 1: But if we could, man, I'd be a hell of
Speaker 1: a hire. Okay, do you have a realistic candidate? How
Speaker 1: about that? I ain't got a realistic, realistic candidate. But
Speaker 1: there is a defensive coordinator at the University of Toledo
Speaker 1: who as that defense rolling. And look, I know, I
Speaker 1: mean Tolio, we got we got some beef, you know.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna take that out of there and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you mean he Toledo. They can do something for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. So we'll see, we'll see. Okay, Look, I
Speaker 1: don't know how much how much how much more realistic
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say perfect world and Church took my number
Speaker 1: one pick that in the ideal world that would be
Speaker 1: the guy. But you know, listen, this is gonna sound crazy,
Speaker 1: But if we're gonna run a three four defense, man,
Speaker 1: my man uncle Wade is sitting out there just waiting
Speaker 1: for a job, waiting for a defense that he can
Speaker 1: get a hold of and take to a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: like he did out there in Denver. All right, And
Speaker 1: then we also have listen before I say this, I
Speaker 1: want to explain that sometimes defensive coordinators and offensive coordinat
Speaker 1: sometimes they become head coaches and then they kind of
Speaker 1: lose track of what they're really built on, and then
Speaker 1: they're not really as good as they had been previously.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw dan Quinn out there because I
Speaker 1: know as a defensive as a defensive coordinator, as a
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, I've seen what he is able to do
Speaker 1: when he's focusing solely on defense. Now, his head coaching
Speaker 1: and giving up leads and all that stuff, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure about. But if you're gonna run a four three
Speaker 1: defense and you want to get some stuff done, I
Speaker 1: would say I would take a look at dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: No negative, Well, dan Quinn took over the defense. Um
Speaker 1: last season or twenty nineteen, he took over the defense
Speaker 1: and then failed spectacularly, and then gave it to Ring
Speaker 1: Morris and then they improved. So yeah, he couldn't even
Speaker 1: call defenses anymore. So and then we just made him
Speaker 1: to focus. We just wanted to focus solely on defense.
Speaker 1: I feel I feel as though people have caught up
Speaker 1: to that Seattle skin. Um Gus brad thing out with
Speaker 1: the Chargers, that that thing has been a mess, and
Speaker 1: then they're all getting get ready to get fired there. Um,
Speaker 1: Seattle is not what's winning games. A defense is not
Speaker 1: what it's winning games of Seattle now. And that's even
Speaker 1: with them getting Jamal Adams in there. So so that
Speaker 1: defensive thing is not the same. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: Gus Bradley and and Dan Quinn were coaching a defense
Speaker 1: that was good to secondary, Uh, this ain't it here.
Speaker 1: He coming here, he got a whole lot of pieces
Speaker 1: he can't bring with him. So, oh, listen, we're talking
Speaker 1: about revapping the whole defense. This is y'all's planning. Revamp
Speaker 1: the defense. Make sure you put your players in position
Speaker 1: to succeed. And you walk in here and you got
Speaker 1: d law you got Randy Gregor, you're talking about remapping
Speaker 1: the secondary. You got Jalon Smith, you got late Vanderish.
Speaker 1: I think you give Dan Quinney these pieces, which some
Speaker 1: of them are similar to guys that he had in Seattle,
Speaker 1: and I think he could make something happen. I still don't.
Speaker 1: I still think we shouldn't have got rid of Christian Shard,
Speaker 1: who runs something similar. H So, I just that's my
Speaker 1: name that I would throw out there as a possibility.
Speaker 1: I got a question now, is is Romeo? Is Romeo
Speaker 1: Cornell available or is he still because he is he
Speaker 1: coaching somewhere right now. He will be the interim coach
Speaker 1: in Houston, but I imagine what he'll do is remain
Speaker 1: in Houston as some type of consultant because he and
Speaker 1: the owner are cool. But Romeo is another guy running
Speaker 1: at three to four. Um. I just think that I
Speaker 1: just don't see the Cowboys being able to run a
Speaker 1: three four and pay Dak Prescott because you got that
Speaker 1: three four. But what do you got to have? You
Speaker 1: need man corners. Man corners cost a lot of money.
Speaker 1: And I remember Bill Polly and talking about when he
Speaker 1: was with the Colts that they had spent so much
Speaker 1: money on offense. One reason why they had made the
Speaker 1: change from from Vic Fangio and more as the head
Speaker 1: coach over to Tony Dungee was that they were running
Speaker 1: you know, they were having more of zones and it
Speaker 1: was cheaper to get the corners and you could actually
Speaker 1: get them out there a whole lot quicker. But you
Speaker 1: saved money. I mean, you do that man thing, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, are you ready to sit up here and
Speaker 1: pay guys? They didn't want to pay Byron Jones. So
Speaker 1: I just don't know if they can afford to do
Speaker 1: that in terms of the kind of costs it would
Speaker 1: take for the three four defense and also just the
Speaker 1: resources you need. You know, the cowboys from Parcels was here,
Speaker 1: they run at three four and running away. They were
Speaker 1: spending that kind of money on defense. They were using
Speaker 1: number one picks on defense. They want to do that here.
Speaker 1: They want to be got to show you won't have
Speaker 1: the money after you signed that. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: the kink right there, right the kink. So so stop
Speaker 1: so right there, uncle, Wait people, Okay, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I gotta list, Okay, I gotta litt You've got a
Speaker 1: guy in the building right now. And George Jetwards who
Speaker 1: was there with Zimmer at Minnesota, And I don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody notices that defense was not the same this year,
Speaker 1: and George Edwards was out there with Zim doing that.
Speaker 1: So he's the guy who's now with the Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: would consider him. Um, Joe Witt is a guy that
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was going to bring here. In fact, I'm
Speaker 1: told Joe Witt, who was with McCarthy and Green Bay,
Speaker 1: was told he get the DC job, but then it
Speaker 1: went to Mike Nolan. Now with is not you know,
Speaker 1: so he's not there. Um, you know, with with McCarthy.
Speaker 1: Let me figure out where did I see? Where is Joe?
Speaker 1: I know what happened last time I brought one of
Speaker 1: McCarthy's buddies in here. Yeah, I was gonna say if
Speaker 1: if McCarthy, I don't know, I don't know, man, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't be a part of this process. Man,
Speaker 1: defensive guy Church Church, he listened to guy that's previously
Speaker 1: that is currently in the building with this. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: that's good. That's a good that's good. Now offline, offline,
Speaker 1: we can have a conversation about that about Intel offline,
Speaker 1: about about with that one. So this is what I
Speaker 1: got on h on Joe with he's now the Falcon Secondary.
Speaker 1: He's with the Falcon Secondary and um um saying, sayce
Speaker 1: McCarthy had told him he'd be the DC, but when
Speaker 1: he hired Nolan, Joe was not happy, says Joe is
Speaker 1: that dude should have been a defensive coordinator a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago and McCarthy blocked it. So that's a
Speaker 1: name right there. Aubrey Pleasant, who's the cornerback coach with
Speaker 1: the Rams. I think we've seen the Rams run a
Speaker 1: pretty good defense this year. So there's some guys there.
Speaker 1: And before I bring in dan Quinn to run my defense,
Speaker 1: I'd bring in a guy who was running the defense
Speaker 1: better than dan Quinn was doing it in Atlanta, and
Speaker 1: that was Raheem Morris. You know, they're they're all about
Speaker 1: to get right out of the tea. So there's some names.
Speaker 1: There's some names right there. And look, I don't know
Speaker 1: how the Cowboys and how sort of people feel about
Speaker 1: Chris Richard. My issue with Chris Richard was that Richard
Speaker 1: was trying to marry his system and Marion Ellie system,
Speaker 1: and you just can't blend two systems together. If they
Speaker 1: were gonna let Marion Ellie, I mean, let let Chris
Speaker 1: do it, they should have let Chris do it. One
Speaker 1: of the things he wanted to do was bring him
Speaker 1: linebacker coach Michael Barrow to be that guy he'd worked
Speaker 1: with in Seattle. They're like, no, no, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: with Ben Bloom. I mean, we all saw how how bad. Okay,
Speaker 1: we all saw that. Hold on, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: because listen, I heard you. I keep hearing you talking
Speaker 1: about Raheem More? Was raheem More something with Jerome Henderson
Speaker 1: up there stinking up to joint uh in their secondary
Speaker 1: when they was like thirty second in the league a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Was that? Is this the Raheem
Speaker 1: More is that we're talking about talking about him? Over?
Speaker 1: Dan quick give give quinn. He was the coach. He
Speaker 1: was said, I think he taught twenty eighteen maybe twenty
Speaker 1: eighteen up there stinking it up. Man. Listen, listen, let
Speaker 1: let Dan dan Quinn is trash that whole brother Quinn
Speaker 1: dan Quinn ain't been the same since Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: then just ruined his life. He ain't been the same since.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break. You're right, you right, so we're
Speaker 1: something back. Let's dive into Kellen Moore. Let's dive into
Speaker 1: Kelly Moore. He takes I've often scored in if he
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Speaker 1: All Right, fellas up making the Team? Um, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna for twa I'm not gonna hate on them, man,
Speaker 1: because when that cheerleader show came on Netflix, I watched.
Speaker 1: I've been watched the whole season, all right, So I'm
Speaker 1: sure if I sit down and watched Making the Team
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys, I'll probably get into it. But
Speaker 1: right now my play is a little full. Which which
Speaker 1: cheerleaders show? Was that? The one? Was that? The one
Speaker 1: with those the did Juko over there and uh here
Speaker 1: in technas? Yeah? College, Yeah, yeah, that was that one
Speaker 1: I watched. Yeah, you saw what happened to your boy
Speaker 1: jar a couple of weeks ago, didn't you hold on?
Speaker 1: First of all, that that's reality TV. You watched it? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all okay, all right, because because you know, you
Speaker 1: make it sound like you don't watch no reality TV. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my children were watching it on the slides. I was like,
Speaker 1: let me get up in here and figure out what
Speaker 1: it is. Oh, oh okay, Yeah, yeah, you we watched
Speaker 1: the whole season. I did. I watched it, watched it
Speaker 1: all because I also I'm I'm I'm one of those
Speaker 1: that I'm not a cheerleading person at all. And you know,
Speaker 1: I watched Bring It On all. I'm like, oh gosh,
Speaker 1: this is terrible. And my youngest is that's the last one.
Speaker 1: If I get that one away from it, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be okay. But yeah, I watched it. So but that
Speaker 1: guy Jerry It recently got arrested for um child pornography charges. Goodness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah he's in, He is in. He got
Speaker 1: a world of trouble. Um got a little bit boys
Speaker 1: sending pictures and stuff. So yeah, that that guy from
Speaker 1: that show is yeah, send him to jail. Got arrested
Speaker 1: up there in Chicago is a couple of weeks back.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I tweeted the story out. But let's talk
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys. Yes, let's talk about the Cowboys offense. Uh.
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore up for the Boise State job. He spoke
Speaker 1: to the media yesterday. Um, you know, very vague, but
Speaker 1: at the same time say, hey, look it's special to
Speaker 1: place that you know, I'm from, the opportunity I would
Speaker 1: look at which is what you what you'd expect. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm concentrating on this. Let it play out. YadA ya da,
Speaker 1: which to me is all coach speak for yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: take the job. I loved that. I hope they offered
Speaker 1: to him. So if Kellen Moore gets a job, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to believe that he will, because right now
Speaker 1: they save the candidates for Kellen Moore and then the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Oregon who is also a former Boysey State player.
Speaker 1: But usually these offensive guys are whose schools want versus
Speaker 1: the defensive guys. So Kellen Moore takes a job. Mccraig,
Speaker 1: who should be the offensive coordinator next year? Goodness great?
Speaker 1: The my dan Quinn, the opinion got shut down. I
Speaker 1: might you know, I might need to be quiet. No, king, listen,
Speaker 1: the first first first stuff for a selection should be
Speaker 1: me because I'm giving the ball to twenty one and nineteen.
Speaker 1: But since I'm not available because my play is full
Speaker 1: and I'm running these these U camps, I would say
Speaker 1: I would say my first look realistically would be the
Speaker 1: Alabama Crimson Tides offensive coordinator Steve Star Sarkeesian. All Right,
Speaker 1: we see that that Joe Brady can get some stuff done. Yes, man,
Speaker 1: have you seen the offense Knui? Have you seen what
Speaker 1: they've been able to put together and the guys and
Speaker 1: he's been able to develop? All right, I'm going with
Speaker 1: him first. And then uh, you know, was it Brian
Speaker 1: Doble for the Bills? If we can get them up
Speaker 1: out of there, those guys have been able to turn Uh,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Digs and Cole Beasley and and Singletary
Speaker 1: and Zach Mass they've been they've turned into a real
Speaker 1: nice offense. So those are the two two guys that
Speaker 1: I'm looking at first. I don't know, man, I don't
Speaker 1: know what one thing with Kelly about his job before
Speaker 1: I touch on this OC thing. He definitely got that boys.
Speaker 1: He stage job. I mean, when you got guys like
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones back in you saying, hey, we had to
Speaker 1: we had to put the Brakes on him a little bit,
Speaker 1: or he would explode it too much. When you got guys,
Speaker 1: he got the job, he got the job. But for me, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure who we bring in
Speaker 1: here as an offensive coordinator. Man, I think it's got
Speaker 1: to be somebody who values the run game more than
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore did. Seeing is that we had the ninety
Speaker 1: million dollars. We got so much invested in Zeke, and
Speaker 1: there's no way we can get out of the contract,
Speaker 1: I believe until I think twenty twenty three. So we
Speaker 1: got to bring somebody in here who values the run
Speaker 1: game and who he's created with the run game. And
Speaker 1: to me, that might be a guy like Greg Roman.
Speaker 1: I mean, look what he's doing up there in Baltimore. Yes,
Speaker 1: he has Lamar Jackson and all that good stuff, but
Speaker 1: the way he's able to have his creative run game
Speaker 1: and confusing defenses we've seen with how it confused our
Speaker 1: defense up there, I think that'd be a good staple
Speaker 1: piece for this offense. Especially Zeke Elliott back there with
Speaker 1: his ninety million dollars. He'd make the best out of him.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be a good candidate. Hello, let me
Speaker 1: preface my pick. Let me preface my pick by saying this,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy should be calling the plays next season. Steve
Speaker 1: Sarkisian should be here to learn and help Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: do some things that he hasn't seen at the college
Speaker 1: level and bring some creativity. Mike McCarthy should should be
Speaker 1: the guy holding that car and making those play calls
Speaker 1: next season. Okay, Okay, Can I start with Sarkisian? Absolutely? Okay.
Speaker 1: Steve was Dan Quinn's coordinator for two years in Atlantic,
Speaker 1: so so he's been to the proms and he went
Speaker 1: back to Alabama. So from what I have seen from
Speaker 1: Sark and what I've been reading from people like Bruce
Speaker 1: Fellman who cover college football, Sarks kind of waiting on
Speaker 1: another collegiate job and coming here to watch Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: call plays is not something that I think he would do.
Speaker 1: I believe is he a bad hire? Is he a
Speaker 1: bad hire? Would he be? Would he be it? Would
Speaker 1: he be a bad hire? Yes? And here's here, here's
Speaker 1: why I think Mike McCarthy should be calling plays. And
Speaker 1: I think Mike McCarthy wants to call plays. I think
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy would like a situation like what Andy Reid
Speaker 1: is doing in Kansas City. Where Andy's here, he's got
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator and a guy who helps build the
Speaker 1: game play, who works with a lot. But then you're
Speaker 1: on game day, he's going to get out there. You
Speaker 1: can pull out that Loue sheet look at and call
Speaker 1: his plays. I think that's what he wants to do.
Speaker 1: What's what we see with Sean Payton doing here. So
Speaker 1: I think Mike McCarthy is just like those guys. So
Speaker 1: maybe you make Doug Nutsmier. You're a quote unquote offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator while while Mike has calling the plays. That's what
Speaker 1: I envision, That's what I think will happen here. So
Speaker 1: if I'm a guy like Sark, I don't touch this.
Speaker 1: If I'm Sark, I mean to me, if you're Sark,
Speaker 1: the best thing to do is stay where you're at
Speaker 1: an Alabama because you probably are gonna get yourself a
Speaker 1: head coach again. Um, it happened for Mike Loxley, so
Speaker 1: so I would say, if I'm sorry, just just hang
Speaker 1: out where you are. You just saw DeVante Smith be
Speaker 1: named the Associated Press College Football Player of the Year
Speaker 1: and Matt Jones finished second Alabama quarterback. So there's two
Speaker 1: guys right there, so I wouldn't be touching the pros.
Speaker 1: I'd stay right well, get ready to get busy agetting
Speaker 1: college football, where he was once a head coach at
Speaker 1: Washington and USC. It was new, costing him those jobs
Speaker 1: well new. The question. The question was who would we
Speaker 1: like to see? I know, sorry, probably ain't coming here,
Speaker 1: but if I want, that's that's why I want to
Speaker 1: see come here. It's the smart thing for ever do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what would be to stay in college because he's he's
Speaker 1: running up, just like Damo Semina who's probably never gonna
Speaker 1: leave college because he's running it, running stuff over there. Uh,
Speaker 1: at Clemson, they shouldn't come here. But if I if
Speaker 1: I want to see, you know, some new blood coming
Speaker 1: here and some creative things, then I'm going to the
Speaker 1: college level to bring something different to help Mike McCarthy out.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, but I want McCarthy, but you
Speaker 1: want McCarthy call a plays too, right? Absolutely? Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that yeah, that's that's my thing is is and
Speaker 1: to me, this is his opportunity in the now. Nuts
Speaker 1: Meyer has been a successful college um coordinator as well,
Speaker 1: so I actually I have a favorable opinion of him.
Speaker 1: And look, I don't know what happened with John Kittner
Speaker 1: and why McCarthy didn't want to keep him, but if
Speaker 1: you were able to make Doug nusts Meyer your go
Speaker 1: from quarterback coach the offensive coordinator, you brought back a
Speaker 1: guy like Kittna who Dak Prescott had so much uh
Speaker 1: in common and connection with, that'd be that'd be good, Bobby.
Speaker 1: But we'll see, we'll see McCarthy's got his list of
Speaker 1: guys from the barn and we'll see what he does.
Speaker 1: But I just I just think the guy wants to
Speaker 1: call call plays there. Booker McFarlane was on ESPN and
Speaker 1: he decided that Dwayne Haskins, Dwayne Haskins is a problem
Speaker 1: and that Dwayne Haskins and other black players are all
Speaker 1: like Dwayne Haskins where they're concerned about their brand and
Speaker 1: they don't put in the work. And yeah, he went
Speaker 1: places that were frankly embarrassing. I just thought they were embarrassing.
Speaker 1: And he thought he was killing them too with his
Speaker 1: take too. This is gonna hit, this is gonna hit
Speaker 1: their ear. Drums man, They're gonna feel every word I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, man, look, man, I don't think
Speaker 1: you should have went that hard on the kid. Like
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Man, Look, he made
Speaker 1: a mistake. Was it a dumb mistake? Yes, it was
Speaker 1: an immature mistake, yes, But the kid was twenty two
Speaker 1: years old. Man. It ain't like he's riding around here,
Speaker 1: you know, drunk driving, running into people, killing people, or
Speaker 1: bringing handguns in there. He made a mistake, and look,
Speaker 1: it cost him his job at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: That should be it. Man. You shouldn't rope him into
Speaker 1: all this other new you know, we got brands and
Speaker 1: the African American community doesn't know how to how to
Speaker 1: basically win and all this other stuff. I you know,
Speaker 1: I just think he went a little bit too hard
Speaker 1: on to get kid. Man. He made a mistake, and
Speaker 1: hopefully he gets a second chance somewhere. Yeah. Look, I
Speaker 1: don't care to you write church, but I don't care
Speaker 1: how hard he went on Dwayne Haskins, When you make
Speaker 1: this a general thing of African American players in the
Speaker 1: NFL not being able to focus on more than one
Speaker 1: thing at once, building your brand, working hard, making some money,
Speaker 1: and also being discipline enough to show up and be
Speaker 1: professional and saying that this is a huge problem throughout
Speaker 1: the NFL. Then you made a mistake, especially when you
Speaker 1: just basing it off what Dwayne Haskins did. All three
Speaker 1: of us can come and we can name a plethora
Speaker 1: of guys who have been able to do everything that
Speaker 1: book of McFarland said that they couldn't do and also
Speaker 1: be professional, show up, win super Bowls, win MVPs, and
Speaker 1: do all types of things. So to me, it just
Speaker 1: makes no sense for him to rope in the entire
Speaker 1: African African American community in the NFL and say that
Speaker 1: this is this is what most of us are doing,
Speaker 1: and this is how most of us act once we
Speaker 1: get to the league, and that's why stuff doesn't work
Speaker 1: for us. Doesn't make sense. He's absolutely wrong and made
Speaker 1: no sense. And I was ashamed to hear one of
Speaker 1: my LSU guys sound like that. My first thought when
Speaker 1: I actually watched the clip on Twitter because I didn't
Speaker 1: watch it live, I'm like, Dad, that's why Booker mcfarlo's
Speaker 1: not doing money that football, because he would go on
Speaker 1: money saying some crazy doing. I'm saying some more crazy stuff.
Speaker 1: Look Dwayne Haskins earned the flogging he's taken. Okay, he's earned,
Speaker 1: But to turn it around and make it seem as
Speaker 1: though it's old. You just what happened When you get
Speaker 1: these negroes in here. They can't getting on Twitter and
Speaker 1: putting Instagram photos themselves, and they can't concentrate. That's how
Speaker 1: it came off to me. And lord knows, if there
Speaker 1: was a white general manager somebody saying that white broadcaster,
Speaker 1: they that person would have paid dearly for saying those
Speaker 1: kind of comments, because it was asinine and ignorant. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what it was. It was asinine and ignorant. There
Speaker 1: are too many guys in this league, black and white,
Speaker 1: as Danny said, who've been able to build brains, who've
Speaker 1: been able to do both. And there are also plenty
Speaker 1: of guys that we could point to besides a Dwayne
Speaker 1: Haskins who took their opportunity and flushed it down the toilet.
Speaker 1: Anybody remember Johnny Football, Okay, Johnny Football out here with drugs,
Speaker 1: Johnny Football, I here skipping and hopping to Vegas with
Speaker 1: Cat Dui drinking in draft. You know you know that
Speaker 1: they said he was out here beating his girl. I mean,
Speaker 1: Johnny had a whole bunch of stuff talk about who
Speaker 1: got flushing away his opportunity. It is not just black players,
Speaker 1: it is players in general across every sport. We can
Speaker 1: go and look and say, hey, look this guy didn't
Speaker 1: do this and this to make it seem as though
Speaker 1: it's an African American thing is but black guys. That's
Speaker 1: the part that was distasteful. Like, dude, dude, hold on, now, okay,
Speaker 1: this is not just some racial thing here where you
Speaker 1: black guys. No, it's players in general, and it's players
Speaker 1: at every sport. In fact, it's you go look at
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry and I worked in LA I can
Speaker 1: tell you plenty of people who blue opportunities who because
Speaker 1: they weren't focused on the jobs. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: a This is that I can tell your TV industry.
Speaker 1: I mean, it happens. It happens. And to go how
Speaker 1: deep he went instead of just sticking to the topics, Hey,
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins blew his opportunity through immaturity and deserve to
Speaker 1: get fired that he should have just kept it there
Speaker 1: when he just tried to generalize it to me, I
Speaker 1: just think he went way out of bounds. And that's
Speaker 1: that's Booker, That's just what he does. It's why he
Speaker 1: got fired from money football, church, church. You know what
Speaker 1: he saund like, Like I brought this up earlier. He
Speaker 1: sound like one of them old school haters. Man. They
Speaker 1: hating on the new school. Yeah, and they got social media.
Speaker 1: Like things are different, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: people make money a different way posting stuff on Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram. Ain't nothing wrong with that. The Internet is
Speaker 1: one of the biggest ways to make money now and
Speaker 1: grow your platform to do good things or band well
Speaker 1: however you want to do it. But that's the new generations, man.
Speaker 1: So he just sound like one of them dudes, hating
Speaker 1: that he didn't have had and stuff available to him
Speaker 1: back in the day and looking at the young guys
Speaker 1: going out here and doing it and making these selds
Speaker 1: better and growing their platform in ways that he couldn't
Speaker 1: and just hating on him. Bro, No hate, You ain't
Speaker 1: got to hate. Bro. Beat me happy for the next generation.
Speaker 1: Lebron will be a thirty five or thirty six tomorrow.
Speaker 1: He's got a heavy social media presence. Tiger Woods is
Speaker 1: over forty years old. He'll you know he'll be forty
Speaker 1: maybe forty four, forty five tomorrow. I got the same
Speaker 1: day Saint Birthday as Lebron James Scember thirty. Um, these
Speaker 1: guys have been able to do both. Um, it was
Speaker 1: just it was just a crazy comment. But as I said, man,
Speaker 1: that's just Booker just saying what he does. And I
Speaker 1: just I just think it's wrong. I'll be look a
Speaker 1: look at a guy like Jayalen Smith who ended up
Speaker 1: going back to order dame it. We know Jalen has
Speaker 1: been building his brand. We've seen Tank Lawrence building his brand.
Speaker 1: We've seen Baker Mayfield, Baker Mayfields put out his brand.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield got commercials all day long. He just got
Speaker 1: drilled by the Jets. Um, so you know you're beating
Speaker 1: up on it. That's true. You know what's you know,
Speaker 1: did Jayalen not have a good year this season because
Speaker 1: he was building his brand? That's what you know. Guys
Speaker 1: can do both and you can have good seasons, you
Speaker 1: can have bad seasons. You have ups and downs. But
Speaker 1: to take Dwayne Haskins and basically say it's a whole
Speaker 1: race of people, Um, that's crazy. That's crazy. All right,
Speaker 1: back at it, we'll get back at it tomorrow. I
Speaker 1: got some bad news for Church where we have the
Speaker 1: Players Lounge tomorrow. Um, that's how you leave. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: just it's what it is. It's just gonna be this way.
Speaker 1: But that's why we're gonna get into it tomorrow on
Speaker 1: the Players Lives Humpday edition as we get ready for
Speaker 1: Cowboys Eagles Cowboys Giants, which will be at MetLife Stadium
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys need the Eagles to defeat Washington to
Speaker 1: make it to the playoffs. For Barry Church, Danny mcrant,
Speaker 1: producer Chrispy on New Restricts, thank you so much for
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