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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace choir boy Diddy, Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 1: His lawyer actually described him, as his words, an actual

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Speaker 1: choir boy that listens to one sermon every week behind bars,

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Speaker 1: try a sermon every day and twice on Sundays.

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Speaker 2: I want bail.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I told you he is going to try and

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Speaker 1: get bail again. And what is his lame excuse this time?

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Speaker 1: That it's the women's fault, the victim's fault. You remember

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Speaker 1: Cassie Ventier getting dragged up and down the hotel hallway.

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Speaker 1: He says, the women's the women's provoked him to violence.

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Speaker 2: It's their fault.

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Speaker 1: What should they be behind bars? And the choir boy

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Speaker 1: walks free? Oh double l InOH Diddy, I mean Ansy Grace.

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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with us. Did he behind bars? That? Did he jail?

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Speaker 1: Watch as Shawn Combs heads for sentencing Seawn Comes trying

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Speaker 1: every trick in the book to walk free. How long

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Speaker 1: will did he stay behind bars?

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Speaker 2: Does it never end with Sean Comes?

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Speaker 1: Listen, judge, We've been warned by let's see eminem, you

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Speaker 1: name it. Even Combs goes on the late night talk shows.

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Speaker 2: Talking about locking women in for.

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Speaker 1: Sex appeal bond over my cold dead body.

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Speaker 2: Nobody gets an appeal bond.

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Speaker 1: What is an appeal bond? It's after you're convicted, after

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Speaker 1: a jury says you did it. Now go to jail.

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Speaker 1: You say you want to walk free until the appellate

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Speaker 1: court rules on your complaints. He could appeal that all

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Speaker 1: the way up to the US Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: For beat's sake, what do we know?

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Speaker 1: We know Sean Comes is making another bid at bail,

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Speaker 1: and this isn't just bond. This is an appeal bond.

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Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel to make sense of

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Speaker 1: what we know right now, and this as victims out, they're.

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Speaker 2: Quaking in their boots.

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Speaker 1: The judge just might let him go straight out to

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Speaker 1: TISA Tales, joining US investigator a star off TISA Tales

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. Tisa again. Listen, Diddy is literally living up

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Speaker 1: to his name. Can't stop, won't stop. But this last

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Speaker 1: one is almost laughable.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

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Speaker 3: We haven't even been a month since the jury let

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Speaker 3: him off. On the more serious chargers. The judge was clear,

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Speaker 3: you are a violent criminal. I don't care if it's

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Speaker 3: domestic violence. I see through your act. Not only are

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Speaker 3: you violent, but you're dangerous and.

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Speaker 2: It will come out of the blue.

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Speaker 1: We cannot predict this.

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Speaker 3: On top of that, when we found you, you we're ready.

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Speaker 3: You had a roving freak call party ready, complete with

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Speaker 3: the stripper hills, the Tucci, some pills on the side

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Speaker 3: because he likes the washes, Tucci down, whoop pills, and

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Speaker 3: a woman in.

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Speaker 2: This hotel room.

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Speaker 4: All that was missing was the sex worker.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Atisa tells the night Sean Combs arrested and he knows

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Speaker 1: it's coming. He knows he's gonna be taken in. He

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Speaker 1: plans a free cough that night. That said to Rob Shooter,

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Speaker 1: joining us PR guru that actually worked for Combs for

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Speaker 1: a really long time star of Naughty but Nice podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's at robshooter dot substack dot com. Robshooter. What is

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Speaker 1: wrong with this guy? What did he not get the

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Speaker 1: first time? What is this his third fourth attempt at

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Speaker 1: bond And the judge keeps saying the same thing over

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a guy that does not accept the answer. No,

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Speaker 5: that is just not in his vocabulary. He will not

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Speaker 5: accept it. He's never accepted it throughout his career, and

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Speaker 5: I think after this really disturbing verdict, he now feels empowered.

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Speaker 5: He's not focusing on the crimes he has been convicted of.

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Speaker 5: He is focusing on the crimes that he has not

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Speaker 5: been found guilty of, and that has empowered him. He

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Speaker 5: feels like a winner at the moment. His fans feel

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Speaker 5: like he is a winner. And so he's going to

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Speaker 5: fight this and if he loses, he's going to fight

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Speaker 5: it again until he gets the result he wants.

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Speaker 1: You know, the judge in this case indicated he was

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Speaker 1: not at all swayed by Sean Combs, his lawyers even

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Speaker 1: going back to wait for it. Agna Fello calling Sean

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Speaker 1: Combs a choir boy his words, My client's an actual

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Speaker 1: choir boy. He watches online sermons every week. That's total

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Speaker 1: a synagogue, a mosque and anything during the time you

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Speaker 5: He helped himself, Nancy, It was always about him. If

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Speaker 5: did he was going to turn up at a charity

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Speaker 5: and an event at a church, at a religious organization.

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Speaker 5: It was always about him. But I think here the

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Speaker 5: point we're missing is his lawyers have been really successful.

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Speaker 5: I thought he was going to go to jail for

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Speaker 5: a really long time. I was wrong. He practically got

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Speaker 5: off this, and so they believe in themselves. They believe him.

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Speaker 1: Hold on a Shooter. Maybe I've got all of my

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Speaker 1: facts wrong. But where are Sean comes right now?

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Speaker 5: He's in jail, Nancy Grace. He is in jail.

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Speaker 1: No, okay, So he didn't get off. And that's a

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Speaker 1: very poor choice of words, by the way. So he

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Speaker 1: didn't get off. He's behind bars. Is he not rob Shooter?

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Speaker 5: You are right, Nancy Grace. He is behind bars, but

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Speaker 5: in his mind, in his mind, he is already out.

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Speaker 5: He's planning his comeback. He thinks he'd beat the system.

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Speaker 5: And I think a lot of people, including me, I

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Speaker 5: feel like he beat the system. Here he is in jail.

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Speaker 5: He could be away for five ten years. You're absolutely right,

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Speaker 5: but this is not what I think we all wanted

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Speaker 5: the outcome to be. I thought he had been in

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Speaker 5: jail for the rest of his life. Didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, what do you have to say about this? That

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Speaker 1: part of his claim that he deserves an appeal bond,

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Speaker 1: which is unheard of. Unheard of, nobody gets an appeal

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Speaker 1: bond after they've already been convicted by a jury. Part

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Speaker 1: of his claim is the women's it's therefore they provoked

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Speaker 1: me to violence. Did you not see the Casi venture video?

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Speaker 1: Did you not see the pictures of the bruises all

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Speaker 5: Well, it's great, it's their fault.

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Speaker 2: Are you not hearing this, Nancy?

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Speaker 5: It's worked for him. He did this during the trial.

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Speaker 5: Blame Cassie. He claimed that she wanted this somehow. He

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Speaker 5: claimed she enjoyed the sex. She was a willing participant,

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Speaker 5: and a jury Nancy, maybe not you, maybe not me,

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Speaker 5: but a jury decided he was right. And so he

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Speaker 5: at the minute feels empowered. He feels bolder than ever

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Speaker 5: and empowered.

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Speaker 1: Did he is a dangerous I don't see that lip

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Speaker 1: right there? You know what? You just keep talking about

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Speaker 1: how he feels, Shooter, I don't care how he feels.

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Speaker 1: And he is not an actual choir boy. Those were

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Speaker 1: the words of the defense attorney Agnafello to Lynn Shaw,

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Speaker 1: joining me. Apparently I can't talk any sense into Rob Shooter,

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Speaker 1: he said, one too many Diddy doses. Tonight, Lynn Shaw

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Speaker 1: joining me, founder director Linz Warriors, committed to ending sex trafficking,

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Speaker 1: and you can hear her on YouTube. Host of Lin's Warriors,

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Speaker 1: Lynn the claim the women made me do it. Do

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Speaker 1: you remember the comedian Flip Wilson. His catch line was

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Speaker 1: the devil made me do it, and he became a

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Speaker 1: millionaire with that phrase. That's what Shawn Kimes is doing.

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Speaker 1: The women's provoked to me, it's the women's fault.

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Speaker 4: What Nancy, Let's go back a little bit. This dirty

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Speaker 4: Diddy playbook, Okay, blaming the women, blaming the victims. This

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Speaker 4: is as old as time. We see it constantly in court,

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Speaker 4: we see it constantly in our environment. We work with

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Speaker 4: you know, with the warriors, with victims and survivors. But

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Speaker 4: I want to remind everybody the dirty Diddy world, the music,

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Speaker 4: the rap, they disregard women and girls. They think of

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Speaker 4: them as objects, I dare say, garbage. So we have

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Speaker 4: to go into I'm thinking constantly about that jury, that jury,

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Speaker 4: because I agree with Rob. You know, we had to

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Speaker 4: put out all kinds of statements and saying we really

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Speaker 4: thought this would be a sex trafficking charge.

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Speaker 1: Yes he's in jail.

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Speaker 4: Yes he'll probably serve two to three years, some kind

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Speaker 4: of light sentence. But in our book, Seawn Combs is

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Speaker 4: a sex trafficker, a pimp, a predator.

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Speaker 1: Choir boy.

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Speaker 4: So they can flap their lips all they want, but

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Speaker 4: they did succeed somewhat because that jury did not give

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Speaker 4: him all of these charges. And it's very very.

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Speaker 1: Displace by the victims and by see Cassie Ventura's fast Well,

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Speaker 1: the jury did not see the ball lip. The jury

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Speaker 1: is going in front of a judge claiming the women,

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Speaker 1: the victims in this case, provoked him to violence.

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Speaker 2: It's their fault. Listen.

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Speaker 6: Seawan Combe's team argues the rap mogul should not be

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Speaker 6: behind bars for his swinger lifestyle and says Combs does

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Speaker 6: not pose a danger to anyone should he be released.

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Speaker 6: Attorneys right that Combs enrolled in a domestic violence program

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Speaker 6: and participated in it until his arrest, also arguing that

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Speaker 6: the latest violent episode with Jane in June twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: four was provoked by Jane's own violence towards him.

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Speaker 1: forensic psychologist specializing in trauma recovery, Doctor Cheryl.

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Speaker 2: This is classic in every case I ever had.

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Speaker 1: Which by the time I got it was a domestic

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Speaker 1: violence felony. In every case in prior beatings and tortures,

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Speaker 1: the defendant, typically a man, blamed the woman.

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Speaker 2: It's always her fault.

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Speaker 1: She made me do it. And if the judge falls

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Speaker 1: for this BS, I'm going to do a backflip on

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Speaker 7: Yes, what they teach in courses like the one he's

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Speaker 7: taking supposedly now, in domestic violence courses is she can

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Speaker 7: make him angry, but she cannot make him hit. She

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Speaker 7: is never responsible for his violence, and all domestic violence

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Speaker 7: is not created equally. One of the things that we've

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Speaker 7: seen here is that he's gone for the throat. He

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Speaker 7: has committed choking, and we've seen all sorts of horrific

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Speaker 7: things he's done, but choking victims are more than seven

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Speaker 7: hundred and fifty times more likely to be killed by

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Speaker 7: types of violence and domestic violence, as I'm sure you know,

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Speaker 7: and somebody who's done the things that we can see

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Speaker 1: He's a danger and rob. Sheter another issue, how many

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Speaker 1: times when you work for Sean Combs did you see

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Speaker 1: him try unsuccessfully, try unsuccessfully, try unsuccessfully, and then be

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Speaker 1: successful get what he wanted. What kind of message is

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Speaker 1: it going to send if Judge Cebermanium says over and

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Speaker 1: over and over, no bond, no bon, no bon, You're

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Speaker 1: a danger. You're a danger. You've been contacting witnesses, you've

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Speaker 1: been threatening victims behind bars, and then suddenly goes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right, you're walking free. It's happened before with Sean Combs.

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Speaker 1: He always says to get what he wants, regardless of

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's the story of his life. If he can't

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Speaker 5: get through the front door, he'll go through the window.

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Speaker 5: If he can't get through the window, he'll come down

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Speaker 5: the chimney. He's used to get in his own way.

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Speaker 5: He said something to me once that really stuck with me,

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Speaker 5: knowing what we know about him, it's terrifying. He used

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Speaker 1: The road to success is paved with failure.

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Speaker 5: You know what.

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Speaker 1: Stop Stop. Let's focus on the message that this would

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Speaker 1: an experiment with Philip Debay. An experiment, Philip Debay, is

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Speaker 1: appeal bond? Yes? Okay, I can't believe it. Somebody bring

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Speaker 1: Explain why, Debate.

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Speaker 8: No, they're presumptively going to prison because of the sentencing guidelines.

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Speaker 1: So you agree with the jury, yet you disagree with

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Speaker 2: You can't have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were right when they let them off at

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Speaker 8: No, what I'm saying is whether or not he gets

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Speaker 8: It's a really any shoot for the court. The jury

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Speaker 1: And that's not what it sounded like you were saying. No,

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Speaker 1: you know, get the antidote to your diddy dose. You

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Speaker 1: actually shot up this morning. You had to. What message

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Speaker 5: It sends two different types of messages to two different

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Speaker 5: to him what he thinks, which is he is above

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Speaker 5: He has gotten away with a lot. Nancy, I would

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Speaker 9: People are taking beds to see how long Sean Divicoms

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Speaker 10: How long did he will stay behind bars?

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Speaker 2: What kind of sentencing will he get?

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Speaker 4: A lot of attorneys were mind blown.

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Speaker 3: By the fact that did He was staying behind bars

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Speaker 3: based on prostitution charges or a prostitution conviction alone. Did

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Speaker 1: The Man Act transporting people across state lines to perform

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Speaker 1: those of you just joining us, that's right, Shawn Combs

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Speaker 2: Guess what did he.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't like being behind bars? What do we know to

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Speaker 1: tales on YouTube. Investigative reporter Tisa. What are the terms

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Speaker 3: The terms of the are actually near like the first

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Speaker 3: I'll give three verified references to make sure. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: The only thing is all the.

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Speaker 3: Havoc you reaped was majority in New York and Miami,

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Speaker 3: like Pop said, he thinks he's a musician, but I

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Speaker 3: mean a magician. But the funniest thing you would say

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Speaker 3: They're planning some type of August festivity in Star Island,

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Speaker 2: Not a danger.

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Speaker 3: When you add in the fact that, on top of

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Speaker 1: We'll see if that ever comes about.

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Speaker 3: It looks like he is playing in the court space.

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Speaker 3: It looks like it's a mockery and it looks like

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Speaker 3: I one hundred percent believe that. But Judge Aaron held

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Speaker 2: You are violent, You are unpredictable. Sounds like a predator

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Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned that he was drumming up at

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Speaker 1: what what what sway that has on the judge. Lucifer

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Speaker 3: They won. Okay, there's a lot of things that he

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Speaker 2: What are the terms of the bond requests?

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Speaker 1: As Testales just pointed out, they're basically the terms that

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Speaker 1: I wonder how she feels about that. He pledges to

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Speaker 1: that would be oh so close to Teeterborough private airstrip,

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Speaker 1: Travolta's private jet strip to leave the country. That he

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Speaker 1: We're a GPS tracking device. He goes on and on

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Speaker 1: and on and Angnafello Vow's quote, we're going to get

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Speaker 1: mister Combs out of jail now, speaking of the forty

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Speaker 1: eight million dollar mansion that he's going to hole up in.

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Speaker 1: What do we know about that? Robert Crispin, the.

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Speaker 11: Neighbors, they are really happy that there's no more attention,

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Speaker 11: there's no more late parties, three four day benders.

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Speaker 2: The drugs in that white gay behind me.

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Speaker 10: That's where the Feds went in with their shirt shard.

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Speaker 5: That's where the drugs came out.

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Speaker 11: That's where the electronic evidence came out.

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Speaker 2: That's where everything started.

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Speaker 1: To unfold for Diddy before he got indicted.

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Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: Straight out to Rob Shooter, Rob Shooter former PR guru

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Speaker 1: two Shawn Combs, who describes Combs demanding cheesecake at three

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Speaker 2: The first thing.

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Speaker 1: Shawn Combs is going to do is a throw up party,

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Speaker 1: don't care. They even have Roman Polanski who raped a

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Speaker 2: They don't care. This would be.

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Speaker 1: Another feather in their cap to have Sean Combs there

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Speaker 1: along with Roman Polanski and Kanye. Yeah, that's where he

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Speaker 5: Does this really concerning under belly within the celebrity world?

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Speaker 5: And I think Kanye Roman Polanski are really good examples

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Speaker 5: of this. Nancy Did His career is not over. It

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Speaker 5: is not. He might actually come back and be bigger

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Speaker 5: than ever. We saw those fans outside the courthouse. They

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Speaker 5: He was, He wasn't selling records anymore, his clothing company

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Speaker 5: Now in a really ugly, ugly twist that should make

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Speaker 5: the conversation bubbling up today about bail, he will be

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Speaker 5: enjoying this. He's probably been missing us for a couple

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Speaker 5: of weeks. We've not been talking about him, He's not

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Speaker 5: been in the papers once again, did He has made

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Speaker 1: You know what Robshooter between Julayne, Maxwell Epstein and Diddy.

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Speaker 1: I'm hiding under the bed and getting an unlisted number.

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Speaker 1: I don't want my core bomb my minivan like kid

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Speaker 1: Cuddies was You know what, as much as I don't

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Speaker 1: like it, I'm afraid that what you say contains a

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Speaker 1: tiny grain of truth. If this is any measure. Watch

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Speaker 1: armand Wiggins celebrating half naked with a champagne shower outside

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Speaker 1: the courthouse after the verdict. From armand Wiggins Instagram, it's

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Speaker 1: time for a Diddy makeover, his lawyers, aiming to show

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Speaker 1: he is no longer a quote bad boy for life

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Speaker 1: good luck.

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Speaker 9: It was the defense's zone words that their client was

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Speaker 9: a violent man. Biden's public condemnation he beat Jane viciously.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's been dressed, in your words, as a

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Speaker 6: really trying to make him look like a clean cut,

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Speaker 6: humble family man. But they are fighting.

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Speaker 2: Back decades of a bad boy legacy.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, an oh. Sean Khan was going back

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Speaker 1: even think of an appeal bond that.

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Speaker 2: Has ever happened.

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Speaker 1: But now he is focused on quote I hope you're

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Speaker 1: sitting down, reflection, accountability, and growth listen.

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Speaker 11: Sources close to Combs say he recognizes he cannot return

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Speaker 11: to his life as it was before the trial, and

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Speaker 11: claim the mogul is committed to doing the work to

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Speaker 11: become a better man. His legal team says Combs is

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Speaker 11: focused on reflection, accountability, and growth, and that Combs is

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Speaker 11: not seeking vindication, instead taking the opportunity to right the

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Speaker 11: wrongs one step at a time. Pr experts predict a

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Speaker 11: tell all interview will come in due time, and Combs

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Speaker 11: will likely be making some charitable donations in the near

447
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 11: future in an attempt to garner public goodwill.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it true?

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Speaker 1: Straight out to Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Stories investigative

450
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Speaker 1: reporter that he is now quote stuck in society septic tank.

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Speaker 1: He has been called notorious pig and more so, explain

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Speaker 1: to me what is he doing behind bars to rehab

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Speaker 1: his image? To convince the judge to let a walk

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Speaker 1: free on bond.

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Speaker 10: Well, apparently, Sean Combs is signed up for a number

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Speaker 10: of programs behind bars, including drug rehab, a domestic violence class,

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Speaker 10: and is even taking mental health therapy behind bars to

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Speaker 10: somehow try to prove to the judge that he's all

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Speaker 10: of a sudden become a much better person, completely committed

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Speaker 10: to not battering women abusing drugs anymore. He's trying to

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Speaker 10: show that he has turned his life around and is

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Speaker 10: committed to moving forward with humility acknowledgment of the charges

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Speaker 10: against him, but he wants to get back to his life.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute. I don't know if you heard

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Speaker 1: what you just said, Sidney Sumner, but you're saying that

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Speaker 1: Combs is saying, I'm sorry, I acknowledge I was convicted,

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Speaker 1: but I want my free life outside of jail. So

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Speaker 1: how can you acknowledge that you were convicted on two

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Speaker 1: felonies but think you can walk free? That is what

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Speaker 1: he is saying to doctor Dwayne Hendricks joining me former

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Speaker 1: warden MDC Brooklyn, so much more. He is the founder

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Speaker 1: of the New Daylight Foundation and author of Who Are

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Speaker 1: You See It? Say It Sees It? I'm going to

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Speaker 1: get to you in just a moment, Doctor Hendrix, about

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Speaker 1: Sean Combs's threats to victims and witnesses from behind bars

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Speaker 1: that we know of, and his most recent text from

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Speaker 1: behind bars eyeballs watching you and then he deleted it.

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Speaker 1: I got to figure out why does he have access

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Speaker 1: to social media anyway? But doctor Hendrix, could you explain

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Speaker 1: to me how many the percentage of inmates that quote

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Speaker 1: find God behind bars and think that that somehow is

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Speaker 1: going to get them out of jail.

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Speaker 12: Well, I mean it's possible, and for the most part,

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Speaker 12: anyone who has found religion or went into depths of

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Speaker 12: their religion to find themselves and create a new person,

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Speaker 12: it takes years. It don't take months for that. And

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Speaker 12: it's a slap in the face that the attorneys are

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Speaker 12: calling or saying that it's the victims fault they provoked

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Speaker 12: him into violence. I mean, how can you take ownership

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Speaker 12: for your actions while at the same time blaming the

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Speaker 12: victims in this case. Well, if his legal team or

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Speaker 12: if Sean Colmes his family is listening to take ownership,

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Speaker 12: the own and own is obligate. You have to obligate

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Speaker 12: yourself to the behavior. The w and own is withdrawn.

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Speaker 12: You have to withdraw from the actions, and he hasn't

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Speaker 12: shown that yet. And the end and on is navigate.

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Speaker 12: He has to navigate himself to himself to a different outcome.

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Speaker 12: And I'm really upset with these articles that are out.

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Speaker 12: I mean, on one end, you're saying you're pating classes,

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Speaker 12: you're watching sermons, and you're doing all this stuff. But

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Speaker 12: at the same time, your lawyers are trying to get

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Speaker 12: you out on bail on the same pack as they've

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Speaker 12: used several times already. And there he's talking about it's

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Speaker 12: the victim's fault. This is a bunch of crap. He

505
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Speaker 12: needs to sit back, take real responsibility for his actions

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Speaker 12: and wait for his sentencing and hope that he doesn't

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Speaker 12: get the full ten years for each one of these counts.

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Speaker 2: Crime stories with.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Gray Pillow debate joining me veteran trial lawyer, joining

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Speaker 1: us out of the LA jurisdiction. Look, deb don't get

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Speaker 1: me wrong. I'm all about the Lord providing mercy and

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Speaker 1: forgiveness and great, But the Lord can do that behind bars, right.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be in his fifty million dollar

514
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Speaker 1: mansion throwing freek coughs to get mercy and grace from heaven?

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Speaker 8: Does he the federal pen is not a temple of justice.

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Speaker 8: That's not what it is.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 8: I think he has finally come to the realization that

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Speaker 8: the Feds ain't plan. He has been locked up long

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Speaker 8: enough to really get a good whiff of what it

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Speaker 8: means to be behind bars. He can be the comeback kid,

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Speaker 8: because this has really scared him straight. I sincerely doubt

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Speaker 8: that if you grant the man bond that he is

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Speaker 8: going to re offend, disobey court orders, or not return

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Speaker 8: to court. I say, give the guy a break. The

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Speaker 8: only problem with giving him that break is that he

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Speaker 8: stops earning credit in the event that the judge actually

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Speaker 8: gives him prison time. So to me, what this court

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Speaker 8: is really sort of telegraphing to him is that he

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Speaker 8: is going to get time behind bars. He's not going

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Speaker 8: to interrupt the cruel confinement credit and off you'll go

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Speaker 8: to do his prison sentence, and I predict three to

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Speaker 8: five years.

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Speaker 1: He says he wants a second chance. Didn't he already

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Speaker 1: have a second chance? Remember this, it's so difficult to

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Speaker 1: reflect on the darkest times in your life.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you got to do that.

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Speaker 12: I was.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I had rock bottom, but I made no excuses.

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Speaker 2: My behavior on that video is inexcusable.

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Speaker 1: I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video.

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Speaker 2: I'm disgusted.

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Speaker 1: But yet, Lynn Shaw, he is now telling the judge

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Speaker 1: the women provoked him to violence. How is that taking responsibility?

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Speaker 1: How is trying to get out of punishment taking responsibility.

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Speaker 4: I'm completely sick hearing all of this, seeing him even talk.

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Speaker 4: Let's play that Cassie video over and over again on

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Speaker 4: a loop. Let me tell you something. He is taking

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Speaker 4: no responsibility for anything. He's fake, he's phony, He's a predator,

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Speaker 4: he's a pimp. He is as sex trafficker. Let us

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Speaker 4: use this dirty ditty case. This is my dream, Nancy,

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Speaker 4: that we use this case as a point of education

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Speaker 4: in society. Because remember the jury, they did not convict

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Speaker 4: him for sex trafficking. I think he's a sex trafficker.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, I'm not a lawyer, I wasn't on the jury.

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Speaker 4: But let us use us to teach society what is

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Speaker 4: exactly sex trafficking. It has a whole different meaning. Let

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Speaker 4: us teach the justice system. We have new definitions of

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Speaker 4: sex trafficking. Sex trafficking victims, trauma, trauma bonding. That is

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Speaker 4: my hope that we can use this case and that

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Speaker 4: we can reform society about victims, victims, victims, victims.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to keep saying it.

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Speaker 4: That's what our focus should be on. He thinks he

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Speaker 4: is seeking redemption, no way, and the judge is smart enough.

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Speaker 4: I believe he's not going to give him anything and

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Speaker 4: let him out anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of second chances, you saw the apology video. It

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Speaker 1: was after that video, following the Cassaventure a beatdown, not

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Speaker 1: the beatdown itself, but the release of the video from

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Speaker 1: the Intercontinental Hotel. That's when he apologized, not immediately after

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Speaker 1: that vicious beating.

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Speaker 2: Now, after releasing.

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Speaker 1: The video, he goes on to beat and torture and

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Speaker 1: intimidate other victims up unto the night. He's going to

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Speaker 1: get arrested, planning another freak cough, another freak off.

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Speaker 2: The fans find.

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Speaker 1: The free cough in Disha in his hotel room. Let's

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Speaker 1: take a look at this line ahole technical legal term. Disgusted.

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Speaker 3: Then when I did it, I'm disgusting Now.

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Speaker 2: I went and I sought out professional help.

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Speaker 5: God to going to therapy. We're going to rehad.

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Speaker 2: Had asked God for his mercy and grace.

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Speaker 13: He used to really like me a lot, but I

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Speaker 13: think when I ran for politics, he'd sort of that

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Speaker 13: relationship busted up from what I read. I don't know

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Speaker 13: he didn't tell me that, but I'd read some little

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Speaker 13: bit nasty statements.

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Speaker 2: So I would certainly look at the facts. If I

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Speaker 2: think somebody was mistreated, whether.

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Speaker 5: They like me or don't like me, it wouldn't have

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Speaker 5: any impact on me.

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Speaker 1: That's where friends at Fox and he's Trump, don't do it.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it. You already knee deep. Let me say

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Speaker 1: elbow deep and alligators with the whole Epstein drama pardoning

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Speaker 1: a convicted felon that was charged with sex trafficking in

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Speaker 1: the middle the Epstein debacle will not help anything. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear any more talk about a pardon

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Speaker 1: for Sean Comes This as we learn Shawn Comes is

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Speaker 1: victims and fear that the judge may go along with

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Speaker 1: this bond request straight out to Tasa Tales joining us.

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Speaker 1: You can find it at Tasa Tales on YouTube. What

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Speaker 1: about It Tasa Tales.

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Speaker 3: The victims are not just scared, they have moved into

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Speaker 3: being terrified.

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Speaker 2: They are taking evasive actions.

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Speaker 1: My sources are telling me that they.

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Speaker 3: Are literally acting like a depraved mob boss is back

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Speaker 3: on the street. And the one thing that victims keep

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Speaker 3: repeating to me that I find the most heartbreaking is,

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Speaker 3: is anybody besides you, Nancy, if anybody besides you.

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Speaker 2: Actually going to speak truth to power.

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Speaker 3: This man has been in a program to reimpow himselves,

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Speaker 3: not just for domestic violence, not just for dating violence,

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Speaker 3: but for a sexual assault. That is what that program

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Speaker 3: is for. It covers all three things. He's been in

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Speaker 3: that program for two weeks. He was in a getting

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Speaker 3: professional help, and in drug rehab when he was busted

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Speaker 3: with what looked like half of the pharmacy department at CBS.

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Speaker 3: It is laughable that these narratives are being able to

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Speaker 3: be set forth and the victims feel so.

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Speaker 2: Angry about it, so angry that listen, he might be persuasive, he.

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Speaker 3: Might be a liar, but it is up to us

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Speaker 3: to hold the line and point out this man is lying.

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Speaker 2: It is impossible.

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Speaker 3: What domestic violence like what victims said to me, what

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Speaker 3: domestic abuser or rapist do you know within two months

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Speaker 3: of therapy, that's not even enough for you? To figure

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Speaker 3: out the quick smoking or to put the last twinkie

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Speaker 3: down and just go to bed and.

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Speaker 2: Eat a healthy diet. The fact that we are acting.

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Speaker 3: Like this man is changed all because he said so,

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Speaker 3: and his words over and over.

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Speaker 2: Point the lies.

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Speaker 3: And at this point the victims are scared, looking around

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Speaker 3: saying does anybody see reality? Is anybody going to protect us?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Jesa tells, you're giving me an eerie flashback, because

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Speaker 1: that's what Cassie Ventura said as she was being beaten

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Speaker 1: by Shawn Combs and he was standing over her with

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Speaker 1: a whiskey glass over his head to throw at her face.

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Speaker 1: And she turned and looked at all of his minions

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Speaker 1: and said, is nobody seeing this? And that's my question

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Speaker 1: right now to the judge and to President Trump, is

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Speaker 1: nobody seeing what happened in the courtroom. You cannot give

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Speaker 1: Shawn comes and appeal bond or a pardon.

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Speaker 2: You cannot.

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Speaker 1: I swear the courthouse will crumble down around me if

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Speaker 1: I ever quit screaming. You are not getting an appeal bond.

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Speaker 1: The victims and witnesses in fear listen.

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Speaker 6: Now that Shawn Combs has been acquitted of the most

651
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Speaker 6: serious charges against him, and is arguing for pre sentencing release.

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Speaker 6: Many of those who spoke out against him fear retaliation.

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Speaker 6: Dannity Kaine, Singers, De Woods, and Dawn Richard cite Comb's

654
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Speaker 6: penchant for making threats as fuel for their concern. Wood's

655
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 6: going so far as to stay in a hotel instead

656
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 6: of her home. Didty's former chef Jordan Atkinson, who was

657
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 6: beaten at least once according to a former assistant, posted

658
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 6: an anxious video expressing fear for her safety if Combs

659
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 6: were to be released. Charre Hayes, hired to have sex

660
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 6: with Cassie on several occasions, says he's seen no indication

661
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 6: that harm will come to him, but is not free

662
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 6: of concern.

663
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: When you don't know a horse, look at his track record.

664
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: Don't you recall what happened before the trial? From behind bars? Listen?

665
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: Sean Combs isn't just.

666
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 6: Monitoring social media from behind bars, according to federal prosecutors

667
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 6: did he is relentlessly attempting to blackmail potential witnesses. The

668
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 6: Fed say Colmbs has been using other MDC inmates phone

669
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 6: access codes to make surreptitious calls. Combs then uses his

670
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 6: sons to loop in a third party or directly contacts

671
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 6: unauthorized individuals. While the contents of the calls have been

672
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 6: redacted in court documents, prosecutors say the conversations clearly outline

673
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 6: Comb's in ten to silence witnesses.

674
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: To the point one of the alleged victims in the

675
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: indictment was in no show at court she would not testify. Gee,

676
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: I wonder why Sidney Summery joining me crime stories investigative reporter.

677
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: And in the last days leading up to tonight and

678
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: this bond request, Shawn Combs actually posts from behind bars

679
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: with eyes I'm watching you and then deletes it.

680
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: Explain.

681
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's unclear if Seawn Combs himself made that tweet.

682
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 10: But Friday night, these two I emojis are posted to

683
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 10: his x account and it's very quickly deleted. So we

684
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 10: know previously that Polme's children have access to his social media,

685
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 10: and I'm sure he has at least ten people working

686
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 10: on a social media presence before he was arrested. So

687
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 10: it's unclear if this was just made in complete error,

688
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 10: or is this maybe a suggestion that comes out a

689
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 10: stop to a contraby.

690
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: Him cell phone stop, please send me you're my ears

691
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: are bleeding.

692
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: What are you saying for you.

693
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: Of all people who have studied this case so carefully

694
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: to suggest that Sean Combs would release a text or

695
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: an emoji or a post on accident, No, Rob Shooter.

696
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: Everything he does is choreographed. He sent out or arranged

697
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: to be sent out. I'm watching you. It happened. That

698
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 1: was none you know what. Get rid of her? Mike

699
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: cut Sydney Sumner's Mike. She can no longer speak. You're

700
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: in Nancyland now, Sydney. What about it? Shooter?

701
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't want to end up in Nancyland. I

702
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 5: feel a little bit nervous here. But let me say

703
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 5: you are right.

704
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: Nothing he does.

705
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 5: Is by accident. He's a master manipulator, he's a master marketer,

706
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 5: and so this is no accident. Here to to think

707
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 5: it is. It is just playing into a silly, silly narrative.

708
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 5: He's watching, He's going to remember stuff. He is somebody

709
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 5: who doesn't forget. He holds a grudge for a very

710
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 5: long time. We store what he allegedly did to kid

711
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 5: Kadiya during the trial. He wants vengeance, and this narrative

712
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 5: that he is out there for giving people seeing the light,

713
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 5: turning the page. Nonsense. Diddy is Diddy, and let me

714
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 5: predict he's going to be even more Did he now

715
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 5: that he thinks he got away with it?

716
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: Are you saying?

717
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: Did he's gonna get didified? Okay, I'll take that with

718
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: a box assault.

719
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 2: Let's talk about how in the Hay?

720
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: Doctor, Dwayne Hendrix, you're on the hot seat now, Hendricks

721
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: former warden NBC Brooklyn also warden Sherdan Oregon senior warden,

722
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: US Department of Justice, author of Who Are You See It? Say?

723
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: It's season? How in the Hay is Sean Combs able

724
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: to intimidate, threaten, possibly bribe witnesses not to testify, not

725
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: to show up, to shut the hay up, and then

726
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: get on social media and Santa, I'm watching you emoji.

727
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 12: Well, it happens all the time, and typically it mays

728
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 12: use their family friends.

729
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: What did you just say?

730
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: The reason he did it is because it happens all

731
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: the time. I'm saying, how is he allowed to do this?

732
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: You know?

733
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: Oh, it happens all the time.

734
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: That is a lot of reasons. Is done doesn't mean

735
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: it should be done.

736
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 12: He's not allowed to do it from a cell obviously,

737
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 12: he shouldn't have a cell phone. But typically inmates will

738
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 12: email their family members and they'll say, hey, can you

739
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 12: post this for me? Can you send this message out

740
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 12: for me? Whether it's their Facebook, their Twitter, their Instagram,

741
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 12: or whatever. So that's that's typically how that happens. So

742
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 12: it's probably one of his family members who has control

743
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 12: over his social media is doing these posts, and it

744
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 12: would take the staff about ten minutes.

745
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: Just here, Rob Shooter, he knows, comes doctor Hendrix. This

746
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: is not some rogue post by a family member. If

747
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: a family member did it, it was at Combs's direction.

748
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: Did you not just hear Shooter?

749
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 2: He practically lived with.

750
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 12: It exactly, And that's what I was, and that's what

751
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 12: I was saying. Now, see he probably it would take

752
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 12: the staff, I minuged to figure out if there was

753
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 12: some communication from him via email or viing the phone.

754
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 12: All those phone calls and monitored, and it would take

755
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 12: five seconds to figure that out. If he did ask

756
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 12: them to go ahead and post and delete that that

757
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 12: those eye emojis, and it happens all the time.

758
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: You're giving me a horrible flashback.

759
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't guess you saw the shirtless selfie that was

760
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: posted from Behind Bars by Alex Murdock The Double Oh good,

761
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: why do I have to see this? Take that down

762
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: and me I don't want to see that.

763
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: I just mentioned it.

764
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: That means you have to put it up for the

765
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: world to see and burn my corneas again. The entitlement,

766
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: The entitlement. Philip Dubay of Sean comes posting from behind

767
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: bars that I'm watching you emoji.

768
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: Really I hope he's watching right now.

769
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, but what if hypothetically a family member had access

770
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 8: to his social media and put that up, not knowing

771
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 8: what type of incriminating effect it could have, And let's

772
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 8: just pretend that he really did order that he was

773
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,479
Speaker 8: at the helmet that protestin child there's somebody who works

774
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 8: under him to post that. Do you really believe hypothetically

775
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 8: that if Cassie or Jane went into court seeking an

776
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 8: immediate tro that a judge would find irreparable harmon issue

777
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 8: the tro based on that. No way, right now, there

778
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 8: is absolutity.

779
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: No. I asked you about his sense of entitlement and

780
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: you're just spinning it out to a tro.

781
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 2: No, the victims and witnesses are hiding.

782
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: They've all gone to ground, right now because they're afraid

783
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: the judge might just grant bond entitlement, Doctor Cheryl Errett entitlement.

784
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: How dare he do it himself or direct somebody to

785
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: do it? Was nobody listening to Rob Sheeter, I was

786
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: nothing happens by chance with Sean Comes he sent out

787
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: that I'm watching you emoji or had it sent out,

788
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: doctor Cheryl.

789
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 7: That's exactly right. This is absolutely consistent with power and

790
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 7: control tactics, intimidation, threats, not wanting to be told, no,

791
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 7: reminding people that there are other people watching them. All

792
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 7: of these things are instrumental in controlling other people's behavior

793
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 7: to try to get what he wants. And I agree,

794
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 7: I don't think there's any way that this was by accident.

795
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, is nobody listening, You might as well hang

796
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: your head out of the cab on Third Avenue and

797
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: scream it. Did nobody see the kig Cuttings car bombed?

798
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: Did nobody see the testimony of the assistant who took

799
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: the fifth and god immunity, who jumped in the car

800
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: with Sean Combs to go shoot allegedly arrival at the diner.

801
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: It goes on and on and on and now he's

802
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: claiming the women made him beat them, and he's sending

803
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: up my watching you that was.

804
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 5: No accident, No, no, no, Before he went to jail, Nancy,

805
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 5: somebody very senior who worked with Diddy. I don't think

806
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 5: they do anymore, but somebody very senior called me texting

807
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 5: me to let me know that he was watching me.

808
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 5: And so this is a guy who who is aware

809
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 5: of what's going on. He holds a brudge, Nancy, and

810
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 5: people should be concerned. I don't think I'm scared, but

811
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 5: I am definitely keeping one extra eye open if he

812
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 5: gets out. When he gets out, I think a lot

813
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 5: of people should be should be worried. This is a

814
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 5: very dangerous man.

815
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: Did tell you about me? What do you mean by

816
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people should be scared?

817
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 5: I think I think people that have talked like people

818
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 5: that have been brave enough like you, Nancy Grace, to

819
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 5: literally talk about this day after day to expose it.

820
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 5: I think we should be concerned.

821
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: So what should I go? Hire them?

822
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 2: I super secret layer hide from Diddy?

823
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: Uh? Okay, Rob Shooter. All the people claiming that I'm

824
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: watching you text, I mean posting by Sean Combs was

825
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: an accident? You hear Philip Dubey spinning it out and

826
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: my own Sydney summer saying maybe it was an accident.

827
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: It was no accident. What would happen if this guy

828
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: walks free on bond. How could the judge sit down

829
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: in the law library where they all go to eat

830
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: with the other judges at lunchtime. How can he look

831
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: them in the eyeshooter and say, yeah, I gave him

832
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: an appeal bond.

833
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 5: Yeah. It's completely, completely a parallel universe to the to

834
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 5: the reality that I think most of us are living

835
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 5: in here. It's really concerning. He's a dangerous person. We've

836
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 5: seen the video, we've heard the testimony. The jury decided

837
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 5: that he wasn't guilty of the really serious serious child

838
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 5: is However, nobody could argue that this is a good man,

839
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 5: that this is a kind man, that this is a

840
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 5: man you can trust. He's dangerous and he's powerful, and

841
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 5: that combination makes a lot of people very, very nervous.

842
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 5: Did he also holds a grudge? I know the man.

843
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 5: This is somebody who does not let by guns be

844
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 5: buy guns. He's got a list, I'm sure of people

845
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 5: who are going to be going to be someone that

846
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 5: should be concerned, Nancy, this this guy is not going

847
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 5: to stop. I predict maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow.

848
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 5: Maybe in a few years he'll be back on trial.

849
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 5: He won't change. He's going to continue the behavior until

850
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 5: he is forced forced to stop.

851
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: Bits through the roof. How long will did he stay

852
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: behind bars?

853
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: My bed is?

854
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 6: It's not how long did he is going to do?

855
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 5: Time?

856
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: And how long he's going to stay at it?

857
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 9: You so only a matter of time before Diddy is

858
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 9: his own and dooing a leopard does not change their

859
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 9: right and right now Ditty is wearing a full four code.

860
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what will the judge do and yet

861
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: another bond attempt?

862
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 2: Will the judge agree?

863
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: With the gaming platform Roadblocks what listen?

864
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 6: In California, parents are suing the popular online gaming platform Roadblocks,

865
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 6: alleging users of all ages can access Ditty freak off

866
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 6: themed games. The now removed games had names like Ditty Survival,

867
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 6: Freaky Ditty Simulator, Midnight at Ditty's Party, and Nice Try Ditty,

868
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 6: featuring characters bearing the musician's face. The one hundred and

869
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 6: five page filing said Roadblocks as games trivialize and gamifying

870
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Speaker 6: serious criminal conduct, including rape and provided reports that showed

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Speaker 6: a user registered as a nine year old could access

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Speaker 6: the content.

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Speaker 1: To my colleague, Lynn Shaw, do you ever just feel

874
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Speaker 1: like crying mmm or going cray and just tearing up

875
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: the courtroom? Did you hear that parents suing the gaming

876
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Speaker 1: platform Roadblocks for trivializing free coughs and rape? Didty survival

877
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Speaker 1: Freak Diddy simulator midnight at Ditty's party? Nice Try Diddy.

878
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: They have no idea what rape and trafficking victims live through.

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Speaker 4: Lynn Shaw, Yeah, and Nancy, I can never cry or

880
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Speaker 4: break down in public or show an you that because

881
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Speaker 4: somebody has to do this work. You're doing it, I'm

882
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Speaker 4: doing it. We're all doing it here on the panel.

883
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Speaker 4: I have to say we have to be the strong

884
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Speaker 4: ones for those that are vulnerable and have no voices.

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Speaker 4: We do a lot of work behind the scenes at

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Speaker 4: the Warriors with legislation with Big Tech in holding them

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Speaker 4: accountable for these gaming platforms. We're very involved with roadblocks.

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Speaker 4: Right now, there's no age verification. You can check off

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Speaker 4: a box and say you're eighteen. We've got six year

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Speaker 4: old on there.

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Speaker 1: Most of the other.

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Speaker 4: Platforms as well. When is Big Tech going to be

893
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Speaker 4: held accountable. When are we going to hold somebody like

894
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Speaker 4: dirty did he accountable?

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Speaker 2: Because I want to.

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Speaker 4: I want to leave you with one thing. He has

897
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Speaker 4: every characteristic of a pimp, a predator, a trafficker. He's insistent,

898
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 4: he's persistent, he thinks he's right, and he's never going

899
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Speaker 4: to stop. And you know what, if he gets out,

900
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Speaker 4: I guarantee when we come back in a couple of

901
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Speaker 4: years to talk about this, he will be right back

902
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: in jail, in prison because he will reoffend and up

903
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Speaker 4: the ante and do more harm to the public.

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Speaker 1: Judge President Trump, don't do this thing. Do not let

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Speaker 1: Sean Combs out on appeal bond, contrary to the law,

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Speaker 1: and do not consider a pardon. He is a convicted felon.

907
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Speaker 1: He didn't win. We wait as justice unfolds, and we

908
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Speaker 1: remember an American hero. Patrolman John Wilding, Scranch, PD, just

909
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Speaker 1: twenty nine, killed in the line of duty. Leaves behind

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Speaker 1: his grieving wife, Kristen, and two children, Lola and Sydney.

911
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Speaker 1: American hero Patrolman John Wilding Nancy Gray Sarning off his

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Speaker 1: boyfriend