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Speaker 8: Yeah man, we got what's today? Tuesday?
Speaker 6: So we have what one two more days until football
Speaker 6: is officially back?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Man, what are y'all excited? Nature got all your foot
Speaker 6: fantasy drafts done?
Speaker 1: I don't do that fantasy. Just the last month has
Speaker 1: been fantasy wishing rookies to show.
Speaker 8: Up, so many questions.
Speaker 6: Cowboys are two and a half point underdogs still going
Speaker 6: into Sunday, which is wild kind of I guess depends
Speaker 6: on how you look at it. How do y'all feel
Speaker 6: about that? You think they should be? Should be underdogs.
Speaker 7: Going into Cleveland usually get three for being home right
Speaker 7: early in the year, So that.
Speaker 6: Is I know Cleveland's one of the sexier picks. Is
Speaker 6: an up and coming team?
Speaker 7: Or they are they?
Speaker 10: That?
Speaker 7: Are they that good?
Speaker 6: I mean, should we.
Speaker 7: I think defensively there they are strong because.
Speaker 1: Of that one big no.
Speaker 7: Not even I mean, I mean they got a bunch
Speaker 7: of veterans. They got a bunch of veteran guys up front.
Speaker 7: But yes, don't let's not. Let's not gloss over that
Speaker 7: led by the defensive player of the.
Speaker 1: Year you're talking about.
Speaker 7: You're talking about what a big.
Speaker 1: Black man that you like. I know, I get it,
Speaker 1: I understand. I tell you, like Deric Henry and him,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we're gonna do. What we gonna do.
Speaker 1: We're not going too far. We're gonna try to get
Speaker 1: a distant shot of these guys uh not going in
Speaker 1: and out of the shower. But you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get you a job. Shoutowa, Josh boy. But the biggest
Speaker 1: thing about.
Speaker 11: It all, the biggest thinking about as much Yesthm standing
Speaker 11: over there about oh man, and we got.
Speaker 6: Kids in they got the trust, thank god Christ.
Speaker 10: But Josh is in here.
Speaker 1: You can't here.
Speaker 7: It's what Deshaun Watson shows up like. That's that's the
Speaker 7: biggest thing for Cleveland. And we'll get you know, tomorrow
Speaker 7: we kind of get into our breakdowns and all that.
Speaker 7: But it's that defense is a stout, it is a
Speaker 7: veteran defense. It's a good defense led by the defensive
Speaker 7: player of the year. I think that the sexy part
Speaker 7: about Cleveland is the the unknown, but the possibilities of
Speaker 7: Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1: What could be?
Speaker 6: What could be that hasn't really had a chance because
Speaker 6: of all the stuff that's been.
Speaker 7: Going, the injuries and the court stuff and all that
Speaker 7: kind of stuff. If he finds a way to get
Speaker 7: back to that Houston Deshaun Watson when he was dragging
Speaker 7: those teams to the playoffs, they got something. But if
Speaker 7: he's if he's washed, then they'll just be one of
Speaker 7: those teams that middle of the pack. Middle of the
Speaker 7: pack play you play you really difficult, but just can't
Speaker 7: get over the hunk because they don't have it offensively.
Speaker 1: So it's Cleveland, Pittsburgh, who's in there?
Speaker 9: Baltimore, Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that, because they it ain't
Speaker 1: nothing nice. He's gonna have to play. Yeah, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: because that's the new Black and Blue Division.
Speaker 6: Because you have the pieces now in Cleveland. You just
Speaker 6: hadn't seen the pieces in action together like so, I
Speaker 6: think that's where you know everybody's you know, kind of
Speaker 6: like I guess, kind of like the Cowboys in a way.
Speaker 6: We got a lot of new pieces, especially in the backfield.
Speaker 8: How's that gonna play? How did that?
Speaker 7: How did that all right?
Speaker 8: Good question?
Speaker 6: Kurt Kirk kind of hit it in his notes. We
Speaker 6: tried the We're just gonna jump, it's gonna work. We
Speaker 6: tried this work receiver by committee. Is that different? Is
Speaker 6: that much different by the position with the pieces you have?
Speaker 1: Though? Much different? To me? Explain what can make it
Speaker 1: ugly for the running backs if these guys up front
Speaker 1: on hurry up in jail. But if these guys upfront
Speaker 1: hurry up in jail, I think we have enough right
Speaker 1: now as we say. I think it will work with Zeke,
Speaker 1: with Rico O'Donnell, with lift Key, I think it'll work.
Speaker 1: I think Mike McCarthy can get up, can march up
Speaker 1: enough run game. But it all depends on what these
Speaker 1: five guys do up front. And I'm not expecting them
Speaker 1: to do anything special against Cleveland or maybe New Orleans
Speaker 1: or the Giants. They need time to jail. But I
Speaker 1: think this thing is all right, And I would really
Speaker 1: like to hear what Jess say has to say about that.
Speaker 7: The difficulty for me is when you talk about wide
Speaker 7: receiver by committee and running back by committee is running
Speaker 7: backs need reps. That's how they get there. They get
Speaker 7: their engine going, you know what I mean? Like they
Speaker 7: because what you're gonna get your look on first down
Speaker 7: different than you look on third down. Look the first
Speaker 7: series is different than the look in the third series.
Speaker 7: And you know, you know, my boy baseball guy, it's
Speaker 7: like a pitcher. Once he goes through the rotation a
Speaker 7: couple of times, they don't want pitches to go through,
Speaker 7: but so many times because now you only got but
Speaker 7: a handful of pitches, and now that they've seen him,
Speaker 7: you gotta you know, your vantage goes to the batter
Speaker 7: unless you just unless you just rolling. If these if
Speaker 7: Mike McCarthy has this plan of giving each one of
Speaker 7: these guys a series or how the reps will be distributed,
Speaker 7: because I do think they're gonna elevate because you have
Speaker 7: three elevations with with Dalvin Cook. I do think you're
Speaker 7: gonna see an elevation with Dalvin Cook. Yes, they're ramping
Speaker 7: them up, but I do think they're gonna be an
Speaker 7: elevation with Dovin Cook may be up for this week.
Speaker 7: And if not Dalvin Cooked, then it's uh is going
Speaker 7: to be Doucevan. So how these reps distributed? Because if
Speaker 7: I'm Rico, I'm saying, if you gave me five, let's
Speaker 7: just say we go out there, we three and n punk.
Speaker 7: I didn't break a sweat in three plays?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 7: And now do I get the next series? Or do
Speaker 7: you give Zeke the next series? And if Zeke goes
Speaker 7: in there they do seven plays of punk. I ain't
Speaker 7: really quite got the my lith of going just quite yet.
Speaker 7: Now I'm doct Rico. Now reco gotta recalibrate and figure out. Okay,
Speaker 7: I this looked this first down. They're gonna have something
Speaker 7: different than third series.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way with running backs.
Speaker 7: It does work that way, it don't it.
Speaker 1: Don't it? Don't you talking about nineteen seventy five. You're
Speaker 1: talking about when M and and I played. These backs
Speaker 1: are always on goal. They yes, they are the only
Speaker 1: thing that separate backs is there is Okay, what does
Speaker 1: this guy do better than this guy? You know, you
Speaker 1: tell me which which guy? Besides when he had Darsey
Speaker 1: Eleven's I think I think he was with Darshia Elevens,
Speaker 1: who had just multiple carries, multiple carriers, multiple carriers. These
Speaker 1: guys stay on set like in college. They stay set
Speaker 1: and ready to go. Now it's gonna translated to the
Speaker 1: pros unless you have that Jonathan Taylor that's at the
Speaker 1: coach that's hey, I'm running every I'll tell you when
Speaker 1: I'm tired. They do that now. Zeke is even built
Speaker 1: for that. Now, this is how they're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: The back. The problem is at wide receiver. That's why
Speaker 1: you had a problem. And it ain't that they not
Speaker 1: setting ready to go. They just got a different mindset.
Speaker 1: They y'all just hogs. Y'all just want the ball, These
Speaker 1: brunning backs, they don't realize I gotta stay setting, ready
Speaker 1: to go because when my series come, I gotta be
Speaker 1: on point.
Speaker 7: They did talk to them, right, But that's when you
Speaker 7: that's when you're rushing and you're missing the hole that
Speaker 7: you're supposed to begin to because I'm trying to get
Speaker 7: a home run play because I only get one series
Speaker 7: right now, gota wait till the.
Speaker 1: Ness the game go on. They'll find their rhythm. Jet
Speaker 1: I'm telling you now, I don't trust me we're good,
Speaker 1: trust me. No, No, we ain't good until we know
Speaker 1: what them fire front?
Speaker 5: How much how much of the run game problems was
Speaker 5: who you had at center and is gonna be able
Speaker 5: to make a big difference.
Speaker 7: That's where I sit back and I say.
Speaker 1: You gotta wait, because when you look at the film,
Speaker 1: look at the film is both of them were susceptible
Speaker 1: to the quick move to the to the quick move
Speaker 1: on past rush. But the difference was when BB hooked
Speaker 1: into him and when he didn't, and when you know,
Speaker 1: when he last it stopped. Whereas your boys struggled a
Speaker 1: little bite. He don't have to just he's he's mean,
Speaker 1: he's honery, but he don't have that, just that bulk
Speaker 1: in that and I guess that man strength just to
Speaker 1: stop somebody and shut him down. BB does from what
Speaker 1: we've seen, just an upgrade over uh. I just want
Speaker 1: him to play because I saw this against second teamers,
Speaker 1: you know, And I didn't see him a lot against
Speaker 1: the first team. For the first few weeks. All I
Speaker 1: saw him against was a lot of the second team
Speaker 1: and the second When they did the pastors, they had
Speaker 1: first team and second team. He was always with the
Speaker 1: second team, So we This is a big question mark.
Speaker 1: That's why I say I ain't worry about the running backs.
Speaker 1: I don't worry about how quick these guys can jail
Speaker 1: up front. Fortunately for him, you have two Pro Bowlers
Speaker 1: sitting next to him. But the tackle out there, he's
Speaker 1: been to dance with some ugly folks. And we'll get
Speaker 1: into that. He's been to dance with some ugly folks.
Speaker 6: Now, who worries you the most out of the starting
Speaker 6: rookies or where not worries you the most? But where's
Speaker 6: your area of concern the most? I guess guiding BB
Speaker 6: or Carson.
Speaker 1: I ain't worry about it. I ain't worry about Carson's.
Speaker 1: They can help him, but they can't help number number
Speaker 1: number of big boy they're guiding. I mean, they can't
Speaker 1: help him. They can't. They can't help him. Where you're
Speaker 1: gonna because is Darius Smith got five point five tackle sacks.
Speaker 1: Your boy got fourteen sacks, and they got another cat
Speaker 1: that had five sacks. Like I said, we don't need
Speaker 1: to be getting into this, but it's gonna be. So
Speaker 1: where do you put And still, like you said, it's Friday,
Speaker 1: I mean last week still has been through that year,
Speaker 1: But we need to know mentally because still ain't never
Speaker 1: been that great dancer. You know, he's type of guy
Speaker 1: if you run enough and he laid hands on you enough,
Speaker 1: then he's get confident. When he get confident, he's not
Speaker 1: a grizzly bath. But if he didn't get confidence, we
Speaker 1: saw what could happen last year. So I'm trying is
Speaker 1: he mentally there yet? You talked about that with last
Speaker 1: Tuesday or Wednesday, and I anytime.
Speaker 7: It's always difficult to talk offensive lineman when you sit
Speaker 7: across from this dude, right because what.
Speaker 1: But now you got right?
Speaker 7: So for me, like my biggest concern out of those
Speaker 7: three is Cooper BB.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and the reason being because I do think you
Speaker 7: can for guiding Akolna tied end out there. I can
Speaker 7: have a backchip out there, I can roll away from
Speaker 7: him like I can do things in the in the
Speaker 7: grand scheme of trying to put I ain't gonna Chaz
Speaker 7: Greenham right, Like remember the Chaz green game in Atlanta.
Speaker 7: What Jason Garrett just said, you know what, he's a
Speaker 7: her and and you know you you gave Adrian clay
Speaker 7: bow on the Pro Bowl game, got him paid and
Speaker 7: Pro Bowl bedding one in one game. So I just
Speaker 7: think there are ways now you can't can't protect them both.
Speaker 1: But for Dak is.
Speaker 7: What is what is the greatest need for Dak, and
Speaker 7: I think he is better with Even if big Boy
Speaker 7: gets beat on the outside, Dak can step up, slide
Speaker 7: to the left, still keep his eye down the field,
Speaker 7: delivering the ball down the field. But it's if if
Speaker 7: Cooper is struggling with those passes, those those pass rush moves,
Speaker 7: and now that pocket is is collapsing from the middle right,
Speaker 7: that's where Dak struggles because now he's trying to throw
Speaker 7: over the pressure of the ball, Sales, it's out wide,
Speaker 7: it's it's in the dirt, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: So I think and there's no way to really help
Speaker 7: that because if they want to, if Sefanski and company
Speaker 7: wanted to, I posted on my Twitter and I can't
Speaker 7: get the image out of my mind. Remember the image
Speaker 7: of Miles Garrett standing over the top of the center
Speaker 7: doing the basketball dribble. Right, So I can line it
Speaker 7: up to where those guards gotta go outside and block,
Speaker 7: those tackles gotta go outside and block. And we did
Speaker 7: it last year with Micah right we watched that film
Speaker 7: and then next thing we you know Dan Kuble doing
Speaker 7: it with Michael Parsons right lining them up over the center,
Speaker 7: bring enough pressure where those guards couldn't help down, you know,
Speaker 7: with the center. And so if BB is susceptible to
Speaker 7: that you're talking about in Miles Garrett, you're talking about size, power, strength, agility, athleticism.
Speaker 7: So when you do it every single down, no, but
Speaker 7: you'll do it enough to where now is Cooper looking
Speaker 7: over top of him, is saying, oh, and not a
Speaker 7: snap is bad?
Speaker 3: Right? It is it?
Speaker 7: Does he have enough right now? And there's no way
Speaker 7: to really help that. There's no way to help that
Speaker 7: help the center like that if they want to bring
Speaker 7: the pressure.
Speaker 1: If they want to do that, just a bare look.
Speaker 1: All he's saying is just a bare looking You get
Speaker 1: a barrel looks simply by bringing two linebackers in there
Speaker 1: are putting two tackles right there, letting him go free,
Speaker 1: letting the linebacker go free. So either way, it's that
Speaker 1: barrel look that scares you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you slot those those tackles over top of
Speaker 7: your guards, they can't help out. Their responsibility is the
Speaker 7: god standing over the top of him. Yes, right, and
Speaker 7: now maybe if the guy goes out, he can kind
Speaker 7: of bull push out then get back help hand inside
Speaker 7: or half a body inside.
Speaker 1: But ninetime attend, that'd be too late.
Speaker 7: That's where my concern lies.
Speaker 5: What about just to hit them all for Carson, I mean,
Speaker 5: he's not on an island out there. How can you
Speaker 5: help him out when he's trying to cover Mari Cooper
Speaker 5: or they're overloaded one side and that kind of thing.
Speaker 9: How do you help that rookie out zone that?
Speaker 1: What I was gonna say, That's what I talked about
Speaker 1: last week is you you got it every now and then.
Speaker 1: That ain't the nature of how you These ain't that's
Speaker 1: going against who they are. But sometime that helps. When
Speaker 1: you just zone, keep that guy in front of you,
Speaker 1: play the situation, you know, laid it down. You come
Speaker 1: a little closer when when it's the shorter but you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta have some type of zone back there.
Speaker 7: And that's that goes back to well Mike McCart McCarthy
Speaker 7: with Zim told me in training camp is the unpredictability
Speaker 7: of this defense. Whenever we're gonna blitz, who's gonna blitz
Speaker 7: from what side? We blitzer from from what depth of
Speaker 7: we blitzed from right. It's keeping that quarterback always guessing
Speaker 7: so that he didn't have time to really pick on
Speaker 7: a guy. You know what I'm saying. Like, And that's
Speaker 7: the thing about de Sean Watson is which one is
Speaker 7: showing up? Because if you get the really good one,
Speaker 7: now he gets to rolling on. Now you can start
Speaker 7: picking on anybody. But but you got to mix it
Speaker 7: up some zone some man you know, you could you could,
Speaker 7: you could cloud cover it. I mean, there's a bunch
Speaker 7: of different things that you can do when you don't
Speaker 7: have to lead that young man on an island, you know,
Speaker 7: down in and down out.
Speaker 6: That's surprised to see it because because my answer would
Speaker 6: have been that, my answer would have been the corner,
Speaker 6: No rookie corner, least.
Speaker 7: Of my words.
Speaker 1: My thing is, and you brought this up last week,
Speaker 1: I'm still well it's trayvon is did you see anything
Speaker 1: in preseason that really makes you think that he's on
Speaker 1: target right now?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 1: And seeing till that's these are all the questions we got.
Speaker 1: We have to propose how ourselves and to the fans,
Speaker 1: is you you will not get a chance to really
Speaker 1: and I said every year, but this year here is
Speaker 1: on time. You ain't gonna know these guys. The four
Speaker 1: or five games in where tray von at, how is
Speaker 1: uh Carson holding up? Howards these two, this guard, this
Speaker 1: and this tackle. We're gonna be asking these questions. And
Speaker 1: don't forget this court. This coach here, he likes to
Speaker 1: run the ball. So we're gonna be asking how our
Speaker 1: middle of our defense is holding up. So these are
Speaker 1: just main four or five main questions. You gonna need
Speaker 1: an answer this because we running into teams that's gonna
Speaker 1: try us in that way. They're gonna try us.
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Speaker 6: All right, We're gonna try to take a break real
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Speaker 8: What does the deal with Dak's contract?
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Speaker 8: Dak said it will say a lot.
Speaker 6: If there isn't a contract before the season.
Speaker 1: Jesse Dak said, it would say a lot. Jesse tell
Speaker 1: us about a lot?
Speaker 8: Is this because I know this happens.
Speaker 6: This happens in negotiations.
Speaker 8: It's happening with Trent Williams right now.
Speaker 1: Like it happens then, told Trent come on in. We
Speaker 1: got a bag for you real quick.
Speaker 8: You just sit down.
Speaker 6: We won't let you leave until we both So is
Speaker 6: this becoming Does it even matter to players current? I
Speaker 6: guess on your current roster and potential signings in the future.
Speaker 6: That seems to happen here a lot more. Maybe it's
Speaker 6: just because we keep up with the team, but it
Speaker 6: seems like these deals are getting done way in advance
Speaker 6: at other places, but they keep coming down to the
Speaker 6: wire or past the wire.
Speaker 8: And so does that matter to players at all?
Speaker 6: Or is it just Hey, it's part of doing business,
Speaker 6: and when it's when the deal's right, the deal's right.
Speaker 1: I always believe it came down to individual players and
Speaker 1: how they value you at that moment, you know, like
Speaker 1: we like we sit over here saying, you know, I
Speaker 1: like to he Jesse said, and knew it and a.
Speaker 6: Few other guys, fluid, it's always fluid.
Speaker 1: Don't just hold me to it. It's fluid, mister Jones all,
Speaker 1: but it's fluid with him. I mean, depending on who
Speaker 1: you are, he's gonna either pull you in there and
Speaker 1: and give you the salt and pepper shaker. This is this,
Speaker 1: and this is this, and this is you and we
Speaker 1: don't need you no more. So I mean that what
Speaker 1: he told, He told this told he you know, so,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about I like I QB.
Speaker 1: I like IQB, but I don't know, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't have that first string to pull. I like that.
Speaker 6: So, and if you're DAK, you probably don't care because
Speaker 6: you're like, I'm getting the biggest bag in the history
Speaker 6: of the NFL.
Speaker 9: Sounded like he cared the other day.
Speaker 1: He's kind of like does he though? Yeah, in training
Speaker 1: camp it was like the whole home. But a week
Speaker 1: before we see these side, it's like, are you going
Speaker 1: to side? So Jesse, once again, I think Cee.
Speaker 7: Eloquently said it. After he got this deal done, he said,
Speaker 7: I'll know next time how to handle this. That knows
Speaker 7: how to handle this, right, He's been through this, He's
Speaker 7: been through them. Already saying he's been through them, you know,
Speaker 7: trying to lowball them. He's been through He's been through
Speaker 7: all of the mumbo jumbo, all of the media jargon,
Speaker 7: all of the he says, she say, all of the
Speaker 7: Jerry isms, all of the Hey, you think you're gonna
Speaker 7: bring this other guy in and as a as a
Speaker 7: chess piece that didn't work out, by the way, that's like,
Speaker 7: I'm good, and I think, yeah, I think he's to
Speaker 7: that point. But I do think if nothing, if no
Speaker 7: deal is done between now and Sunday three point thirty,
Speaker 7: whatever it is, I do think that he takes a
Speaker 7: mental note for that and go, Okay, now when we now,
Speaker 7: when we do get back to the table, when we
Speaker 7: do get back to the table, I wasn't gonna give
Speaker 7: you a deal to start with.
Speaker 8: But maybe the price went up a little bit.
Speaker 7: Oh, the price will definitely go up because what's now
Speaker 7: going to happen is I'm no longer working on your schedule.
Speaker 7: Once I get to the off season, everything runs through
Speaker 7: me because now I'm free to go out here and
Speaker 7: be wined and dined and told I'm pretty by every
Speaker 7: other organization in the league in need.
Speaker 5: When was the last time we had a top ten,
Speaker 5: maybe even top five quarterback hit free agency.
Speaker 6: And about a top five or ten player period.
Speaker 7: And that's the thing, is that you're gonna you're gambling
Speaker 7: in a place. And from the business perspective, I get it.
Speaker 7: Jerry's like, I know, I'm about to pay you a
Speaker 7: lot of money, but I would like to see us
Speaker 7: get somewhere. But that's that's the thing about him waiting
Speaker 7: for so long because the deal could have been different
Speaker 7: if you went on to get it last year.
Speaker 1: You don't let these other guys.
Speaker 7: You don't let the true because no way in the
Speaker 7: world I'm gonna let you tell me that Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 7: is gonna get paid more money than me now. Now
Speaker 7: before I might have just got the you know, fifty
Speaker 7: something million and they did what they did. But you
Speaker 7: you let him get the free agency. Man, I think
Speaker 7: you're dealing with a different cat. I think you're dealing
Speaker 7: with a different cat, and you're running the risk of
Speaker 7: whatever your number was, someone coming in and blowing it
Speaker 7: out the water. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 7: money talks. I don't care what our own relationship wise,
Speaker 7: all that kind of stuff wise. But if some team
Speaker 7: gonna pull a trigger and say, well, I think he's
Speaker 7: sixty five million.
Speaker 12: Right.
Speaker 6: If you get to the season, you to me as
Speaker 6: a staff, you you know that's making this decisions on this.
Speaker 1: You have to be prepared.
Speaker 6: You have to have your plan in place when you
Speaker 6: get to the season, because just like Jesse said, like, okay,
Speaker 6: it's time for If I'm him, it's time for football.
Speaker 6: I'm not talking about this unless you come at me
Speaker 6: with some stupid number, like you know, sixty five. But
Speaker 6: I'm gonna i'm you.
Speaker 8: Show me it wasn't that important.
Speaker 6: It's not that important. What's important to me is winning
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. Let's go do that and then we
Speaker 6: can really talk.
Speaker 8: But I think you've got to be prepared.
Speaker 1: Like if he won a super Bowl, Jones and Gleueen's
Speaker 1: worry about it. He goes just ask me how much.
Speaker 7: Yeah, at that point time, he had no choice.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 7: At that time, though, if he goes to the NFC
Speaker 7: Championship game, I'm asking for seventy million, Yeah, he's gonna
Speaker 7: ask you, Oh yeah, easy, yeah, I'm asking for seventy Yeah.
Speaker 5: They're saying right now that the hang up is the
Speaker 5: year years that's what it is, Dak was the first
Speaker 5: time around, Dak wanted a shorter deal, so get hit
Speaker 5: it again. Now he wants a longer deal. Are the
Speaker 5: Cowboys right given that lack of playoff success? Or the
Speaker 5: Cowboys right to say, no, we don't want a five, seven,
Speaker 5: ten year deal. I want to three or four see
Speaker 5: what you you know, finally prove.
Speaker 1: What one thing before Jesse to get into one thing
Speaker 1: I've always noticed about the Cowboys, and this don't matter
Speaker 1: was Troy Emmitt. Up until now, they always left themselves
Speaker 1: a back door to get out of something about two
Speaker 1: or three years, even if it looked at bad, even
Speaker 1: if it was twenty million. Oh, they already uncalculated. Believe me,
Speaker 1: they calculating if they have da and if they don't
Speaker 1: trust me, you know, we all know this. But they
Speaker 1: always need themself a back door. That longer deal leaves
Speaker 1: them less of a back door. That shorter deal and
Speaker 1: their eyesight leaves them a back door to get out
Speaker 1: of there. And uh that Dak saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to close all loopholes. I'm trying to close
Speaker 1: all loop holes.
Speaker 7: You know, as businessmen, they have every right as businessmen
Speaker 7: they have every right because I'm paying you for the
Speaker 7: Lombardi right to give me a chance to win. The
Speaker 7: lombardis not twelve or five, not lely, I'm my I'm
Speaker 7: paying you and looking for my my my ROI my
Speaker 7: return on investment is Lombardy like, That's what I'm looking
Speaker 7: for when I pay you. And so they, whether we
Speaker 7: feel right about it or wrong about it, they are
Speaker 7: in there. They are in the right to make any
Speaker 7: decision that they want to make as businessmen, because yes,
Speaker 7: the ultimate goal has been too and and it's and
Speaker 7: it's maybe unfair because this is a football is the
Speaker 7: ultimate team sport. But we put a lot of onus
Speaker 7: on the quarterback, right, and we put a lot of
Speaker 7: onus on the quarterback to get us passed or over
Speaker 7: or through any of the other deficiencies that we may
Speaker 7: have on our roster or in a game or in
Speaker 7: a series or whatever it may be, or in the
Speaker 7: time of the season. But they have the right, they
Speaker 7: have the right to say that you didn't give us
Speaker 7: what we felt we paid for. And that is at
Speaker 7: this point in time, the playoff wins. So yeah, feel
Speaker 7: how you feel about it from a business perspective. If
Speaker 7: you were sitting in the seat of having to now
Speaker 7: to sign a check for three hundred million dollars or
Speaker 7: two hundred and fifty whatever, then money million, money, money
Speaker 7: is you have to make that. You have to make
Speaker 7: that decision. You're talking about a quarter of a billion
Speaker 7: dollars that you're getting ready to pay out to a player.
Speaker 7: And if you feel in your heart of hearts, this
Speaker 7: is just if you feel this, and this is not me,
Speaker 7: this is I'm saying that if I was sitting in
Speaker 7: that seat, if I felt that this wasn't the dude
Speaker 7: in my quiet time, not what I say in front
Speaker 7: of the media, not what I try to sell to
Speaker 7: advertising on. If I set my quiet time and I
Speaker 7: felt in my spirit he ain't the dude, he ain't
Speaker 7: the guy that can get hist there, then hell yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be like, you know what, here's my number.
Speaker 1: And you know what Fellas that's why you know and
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all I know Jesse to do
Speaker 1: he like thinking this. That's why when you look at
Speaker 1: Tom Brady or this kid in Cincinnati, are this kid
Speaker 1: in Kansas City? That's that's why. Because those guys, these
Speaker 1: scouts will McLay look at these guys and say that's
Speaker 1: the man. Because whether you have a good offensive line
Speaker 1: or not, whether you have great wide receivers or not,
Speaker 1: whether your defense is missing his key player, these guys
Speaker 1: seen to continue to win against big opponents. And that's
Speaker 1: why I said, That's why I said last week, Able
Speaker 1: three three, Able three, one two three. Two of them
Speaker 1: the last three Super Bowls, and one of them are tired.
Speaker 1: Rest of them is just great quarterbacks. Rest of them
Speaker 1: is just good quarterbacks. And that fits into good quarterback. Jesse,
Speaker 1: will you pay him?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 6: Kurt?
Speaker 1: Will you pay him?
Speaker 8: You should have seen the look on Jesse.
Speaker 1: Will you pay him? Will you pay him?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Because it's just what's my alternative?
Speaker 6: And you know that's what a lot of the the
Speaker 6: a lot of fans are like, he can't win you
Speaker 6: the game. It's like, Okay, if I'm and what I'm thinking,
Speaker 6: what you're thinking is the same thing. If I don't
Speaker 6: pay him, oh, I go I got Cooper Rush, or
Speaker 6: I go drafted guy that even if I get up
Speaker 6: to the top five picks and I get a even
Speaker 6: if you get the top quarterback and it's still fifty fift.
Speaker 1: How do you get that, and then you rebuild it, Like,
Speaker 1: how do you get that?
Speaker 8: Because you just crap the season away? How forfeit every
Speaker 8: game you're.
Speaker 1: Still playing like he's going to play this year.
Speaker 8: He's he gonna do everything he can't to screw your
Speaker 8: draft pickup.
Speaker 10: Not even now.
Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, if you're saying
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna pay him, then I gotta go out
Speaker 7: here and actually.
Speaker 1: Perform because this is my all this shit.
Speaker 7: So if I can go drag this team to ten wins,
Speaker 7: eleven wins and then the and if this draft capital
Speaker 7: that it would take to go from twenty seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 7: nineteen twenty.
Speaker 6: To get a good quarterback to get to the top five,
Speaker 6: you mortgage two futures.
Speaker 1: Just look what the forty nine ers gave up three
Speaker 1: first rounders to move a gut. Look look what Kansas
Speaker 1: City did to just get the number ten for mahomes.
Speaker 1: But they knew they got and they didn't care. It
Speaker 1: took me two months after they lost the Green Bay
Speaker 1: of Sulking and then one day it hit me They're like, okay,
Speaker 1: without that, let's do the games.
Speaker 7: Oh well, I think right.
Speaker 6: And the frustrating thing is like, you don't have a
Speaker 6: better option, there's no better option, but the playoff performance
Speaker 6: isn't there. And as a fan, that's frustrating because you're like,
Speaker 6: you know Dak is going to get you there, you
Speaker 6: know he's it's just you haven't you haven't seen it,
Speaker 6: and it's just like what do you do? But any
Speaker 6: fan out there that's like, just get rid of him
Speaker 6: and go draft a quarterback, You're insane.
Speaker 1: Just get rid of You don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 8: You don't know anything about football.
Speaker 1: Because three or four games, yeah, ye, three years?
Speaker 7: Right, The Cowboys have been extremely fortunate, if not lucky,
Speaker 7: right in the last twenty years, easily at quarterback since Tony.
Speaker 7: You you you just so happened to be able to
Speaker 7: outbid who was the out who do they give more money?
Speaker 7: There was Tony was going to us for more money?
Speaker 1: Was it Carolina?
Speaker 9: It was with Peyton?
Speaker 7: Wasn't norns No, because Sean was still here.
Speaker 1: Sean was here.
Speaker 9: It was it was Denver, Denver.
Speaker 7: So you just so happened to win that that little
Speaker 7: situation because he was on his way to somewhere else, right,
Speaker 7: and then you just so happened to have to have
Speaker 7: Drew blutsoe get hurt, and then you you just so
Speaker 7: happened to have arguably one of the top ten coaches
Speaker 7: develop him. And then you had ten eleven years of
Speaker 7: what how many times you had with Tony?
Speaker 9: Nine?
Speaker 7: Ten years with Tony?
Speaker 9: Yeah, six to sixteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you had ten and.
Speaker 6: Then you had some bad luck in the draft and
Speaker 6: somebody got the guy that you wanted.
Speaker 9: Thank god, yeah.
Speaker 1: Got you this time.
Speaker 7: And then you lucked up on his kid who took
Speaker 7: Tony to break his back, call him to break his ankle,
Speaker 7: and Jamil showered to go play safety.
Speaker 1: And will mcclady say, give him a chance and him.
Speaker 6: To stick with him after he practiced not so great,
Speaker 6: and because he couldn't practice at all the beginning, it
Speaker 6: was bad.
Speaker 1: It was terrible. Then he got in the game, it was.
Speaker 9: Like, Oh, wasn't Garrett like beating him in the post practice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that made me knew the kid could play. Was
Speaker 1: all the receivers, through all the bad practices. I'm listening
Speaker 1: to all the receivers, I still like him. It's something
Speaker 1: about him. I'm telling all the receivers like it's something
Speaker 1: about him, Like, oh, this dude can't even be Garrett
Speaker 1: throwing in the trash.
Speaker 7: Now, maybe the Cowboys have the luck of the line
Speaker 7: off drafting offensive lineman and the luck of finding the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Maybe they maybe they sit on that.
Speaker 7: Maybe they sit on that and say, you know what,
Speaker 7: in our vision, we trust we found Tony, we found Dak,
Speaker 7: We'll find the next one. And that can be the arrogance,
Speaker 7: the good arrogance that if you don't find it, if
Speaker 7: you don't find him, you don't find it, but you know,
Speaker 7: to get you to the next guy.
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Speaker 8: All right, fellas Kurt, where you want to take this
Speaker 8: last five minutes?
Speaker 9: I don't know what looks good? Do anything?
Speaker 7: We know it looks good to him?
Speaker 6: Yeah, look at these ideas, you know, how do you guys,
Speaker 6: how do you guys feel about McCarthy being on the
Speaker 6: last year of his contract.
Speaker 7: I think it's a good thing, bad thing, doesn't matter
Speaker 7: what he signed up for.
Speaker 6: And when do you get that done after the season,
Speaker 6: during the season do you wait till the first nine
Speaker 6: games and then make a decision.
Speaker 1: We're going through the scheduling pick win.
Speaker 6: Yet we're doing that later in the week.
Speaker 9: We do that on Friday.
Speaker 1: Lots of fans acting if Atlance can be used as
Speaker 1: Cordell Stewart's fish type player. That's a possibility, that's our.
Speaker 6: By the way Nates Nate's going through, I don't know
Speaker 6: if that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Though, he would have to be number two.
Speaker 10: He had the number two quarterback.
Speaker 8: Is the Dalvin Cook thing?
Speaker 7: Is that official?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 10: He's in the Price squad, number twenty.
Speaker 8: How do y'all feel about that?
Speaker 6: I don't think we talked about that.
Speaker 7: We don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 10: I don't care.
Speaker 7: I don't care.
Speaker 6: Is he Is he going to get to play?
Speaker 9: Sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: If history, if history continues the way it's continued, Rico
Speaker 7: Dodo won't be healthy the whole season.
Speaker 6: M hmm.
Speaker 7: That's just what history says. So eventually he gonna get
Speaker 7: the call up.
Speaker 9: He is healthy. Is he the leading rusher who? Yes,
Speaker 9: he's healthy.
Speaker 7: If he's healthy, if Rico, here's the thing, Rico is
Speaker 7: a damn good back. If he can stay healthy like
Speaker 7: that is his that is his achilles heel. If he
Speaker 7: can stay healthy, we won't have this conversation about Zeke
Speaker 7: and Dalvin and and and Deuce because Rico will be else.
Speaker 1: It will be Rico.
Speaker 7: And who's gonna give him a blow when he Who's
Speaker 7: going to give him a breather.
Speaker 1: When he needs?
Speaker 8: Thank you?
Speaker 6: Wow?
Speaker 1: Because I would breather and you're supposed to be my boy,
Speaker 1: and you didn't. You can't look curse typingles like that?
Speaker 1: Who's going to give Rico a breather?
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 1: When he gets tired?
Speaker 6: Her first regular shows the season, we couldn't even get
Speaker 6: through it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Kurt, I saw what made me stop. I saw Kirkles.
Speaker 1: You turned your face like he was typing something, and
Speaker 1: I said, he said, sometimes I can't even associated with that.
Speaker 7: I can't even I can't be associated with that.
Speaker 8: You're gonna look out this one.
Speaker 1: Right? He stopped typing everything.
Speaker 9: He said, I knew what was coming. That's the problem.
Speaker 8: Alright, Let's just go good seeing y'all. It's good to
Speaker 8: be back here.
Speaker 7: J What are we doing tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Every day is one o'clock? Now, Yeah, Wednesday day Offense?
Speaker 7: Whose defense?
Speaker 8: So tomorrow is what Wednesday?
Speaker 1: Let's do? What do you want to do?
Speaker 8: Cowboys office?
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, let's do Cowboys Offense, Cleveland Defense, and then
Speaker 6: Friday will do our picks.
Speaker 8: Every day this week one o'clock.
Speaker 6: Who's before us and after us?
Speaker 1: Chris mixed shots?
Speaker 10: Excuse me? Shots is before you and the players lounges
Speaker 10: after you.
Speaker 7: At two o'clock at two o'clock.
Speaker 6: Very nice? All right, well, Chris, thanks for keeping us
Speaker 6: on their It's good to be back. Thanks for letting
Speaker 6: the kids participate in the show.
Speaker 8: Open the school child.
Speaker 9: They're out, they're out.
Speaker 10: I don't know just for today.
Speaker 7: I don't know just today, the whole week, yesterday.
Speaker 6: And today they get it is that for Labor Day
Speaker 6: they got an extended labor day for some reason. That's
Speaker 6: kind of cool for kids they just.
Speaker 1: Got back into school. You can tell real parents they
Speaker 1: want their kids just get away from me.
Speaker 8: Jazz, thanks for keeping Chris company.
Speaker 1: Josh.
Speaker 7: What you're doing, Josh is cool with us, man. Josh's
Speaker 7: he is. We're not gonna mess with Josh.
Speaker 6: Remember his name the rest of the year. We'll be
Speaker 6: back tomorrow, same time, same place, hanging with the boys.
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