1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Ron and Nanian. I'm a little bit of a cross 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: between Rush Limbaugh and Reverend Al Bundy, because I've been there, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: I've seen it, and I'm gonna rant about it a 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: little bit. Don't look back the next time I ask 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: you to open the garage door for me, either, because 6 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: if you do, you might see the mighty Dodge emblofaring 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: down on the Car Doctor. You get your mechanic to 8 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: get a look at these things, and I'm gonna tell 9 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: you right up front, if your mechanic says ad, don't 10 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: worry about it and those parts are bad, you gotta 11 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: find the new mechanics. Welcome to the radio home of 12 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Ron and Nanian, the Car Doctor, since this is where 13 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 14 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: at eight five five six and now he running. Hey, welcome, 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm back. Well, actually you didn't know I was going away. 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm on any in the Car Doctor. I really didn't 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: leave here, but I left here. I've been away on 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: vacation the past week took the family for some downtime 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: down to the Atter Banks, North Carolina, and it was 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: quite a road trip, as you can imagine, as a 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: cruise down thirteen and one, thirteen and nine and went 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: through all the parts of the country out that way, 26 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: and it took note of quite a few things that 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this that this hour, because I 28 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: think that's um things of things worthy of note, because 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: it sure is a different world outside of the Bergen 30 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: bubble where we live and have the shop. The phone 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: number for the Car Doctor is always is eight five 32 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Uh. The 33 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: Car Doctor is here to answer each and every one 34 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: of your questions whatever you've got going on. The website's 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: Car Doctor Show dot com. And let me remind you 36 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: once again that coming up in two weeks, I believe 37 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: it is two weeks, we're gonna be at the Sheridan 38 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: Crossroads in Mahwah, New Jersey, Labor Day weekend that Saturday 39 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: show from two to four pm Eastern time, going out 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: across the network. We're gonna be live at the dead 41 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: Man's Curve Party dead Man's Curve USA dot com and 42 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna be over there doing the radio show, interviewing 43 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: people and just watching the events and watching the goings on. 44 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: It's a thousand plus car hot rod show, uh for 45 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: funny cars. They're gonna fire up at once, and all 46 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: sorts of great things, vendors and bands and just just 47 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: just a great time. It's a three day event Labor 48 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: Day weekend. We will be there that Saturday, and I 49 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: will be bringing the hot rod and putting that out 50 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: there for display as well. So we look forward to 51 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: seeing each and every one of you if you're in 52 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: the area. Out on the road, the road trip, the 53 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: American road trip is just a great time. I think 54 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: I enjoyed the road trip, well, I probably do. I 55 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: probably enjoy the road trip more than the actual vacation 56 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: because it's it's different when you get out on the 57 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: road and you start to look in the repair shops 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: as you drive by, and the more rural we got, 59 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: the areas of the country we drove through, somewhere a 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: little more remote than others. Obviously, it was interesting. There 61 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: were three bay repair shops that had one lift, a 62 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: tire machine, a bubble balancer, and absolutely no computs in 63 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: the car. In the shop. It all. It was really crazy. 64 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: It was we were in places that were like a 65 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: step back thirty years ago, forty years ago, and you 66 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: look around and they were working on cars. The newest 67 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 1: cars in there were from the early nineties. And that's 68 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: what was in the area. It wasn't a great economic 69 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: area or a great economic part of the trip. And 70 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: when we got to the Outer Banks, and after about 71 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: a day of sitting on the beach and getting bored, 72 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: I said, well, you know what, let me go out 73 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: for lunch. And I grabbed one of the kids and 74 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: we went out to lunch, and um, it was quite 75 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: an experience. Oh look, I just want to stop in here. 76 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: Dad just wants to stop in here and get gas. 77 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: And I stopped in at a three base shop down 78 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: around Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, and it was really a 79 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: step back in time. The newest cars in the place 80 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: were from two thousand, a two thousand, two thousand one 81 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: something would have been, you know, a fairly new car 82 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: to them. Not a lot of equipment, real basic stuff. 83 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: And and in talking with the owner, what kind of 84 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: got my attention was he was struggling working on what 85 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: else of Volkswagen, and if they actually, I take that back, 86 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: that was a fairly late model Volkswagon because that had 87 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: an electronic parking break on it and they weren't used 88 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: to that. They hadn't seen one of these before, and 89 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: I just so happened to be. I was road testing 90 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: a CRP two twenty nine from the folks over at 91 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: launched their scan tools. I said, yeah, I wonder, and 92 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, I had my r A shirt on. Listen. 93 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: I like, to me, that's that's stress relief. I go 94 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: out to see how other repair shops run, and in 95 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: talking with Fill the owner, I went over and I 96 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: got out my scan tool and we plugged it in, 97 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: and um, I was actually able to help him diagnose 98 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: the parking brake release Ratchett and help him do the 99 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: break job on the car before because he was using 100 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: he was using an older snap on scan tool. It 101 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: didn't have the software and didn't have the updates for it, 102 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: and um, the interesting thing to me was I was 103 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: showing him something like science fiction. He couldn't believe what 104 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: he was looking at. He said, wow, look at this. 105 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: You know, the CRPE from launches probably a little bit 106 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: bigger than an iPad and the technology that's in it 107 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: when I showed him how it updates wirelessly over the 108 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: net and how quick it was and some of the 109 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: special functions it has, and I told him, you know, 110 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: for a tool that's in the five to six d 111 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: dollar range, you know, you can't go wrong. And he 112 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: was just shocked by it. And in talking with him 113 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: and his two other technicians, you know, where do you 114 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: see the future. And they're still waiting for the in 115 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: the numbers for the two thousand fives and sixes and 116 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: sevens for those model your cars to start coming in. 117 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: And they said people tend to hang on to cars longer. 118 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: Down here. Their labor rate was seventy eight dollars an hour, 119 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: and they said, we're high. That's a lot of money 120 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: from North Carolina. And you know, as I'm talking to them, 121 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying to myself, seventy eight dollars an hour. And yeah, 122 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: I know, property taxes are less, and I'm assuming the 123 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: building is less. And I don't want to get too 124 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: much into his cost of doing business, but I'm thinking, 125 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, when you've got to buy that factory level scantol, 126 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: when you've got to buy that dealer level tool, all 127 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden that that five six grand you have 128 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: to lay out as an awful lot harder to make 129 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: than when you're in an environment where the market will 130 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: bear a hundred, two hundred and twenty five an hour. 131 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: And it brought to mind what I've been saying for years, 132 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: how does the repair shop outside of the large economic 133 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: bubble survive? How will they survive? And in conversation with 134 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: with with Fill and his guys, they didn't really have 135 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: that answer. They know it's coming, they know it's something 136 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to deal with, but based on their 137 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: rate of growth and the way he's seeing it, Phil 138 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: doesn't think he's gonna have to deal with it for 139 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: another five to seven years, which, you know, everything happens 140 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: a lot slower at the outer Banks North Carolina. You know, 141 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: he said, you caught me in the busy season. He 142 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: goes here, we are just before labor day. He goes, 143 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: come back in a month and a half. He said, 144 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: we'll be fishing half to and um, you know, there 145 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: isn't a lot else to do because we're in a 146 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: resort area and everybody has gone, and it just changes 147 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: the way you work on things. He did say something 148 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: interesting to me. He said, it's a lot tougher in 149 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: the last twenty years. He's been doing this a long time, 150 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: he says, it's a lot tougher in the last twenty 151 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: years to work for seasonal or to work on seasonal cars, 152 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: is how he said it. And by that he meant 153 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: that the car that he sees, you know, June, July, August, 154 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: and then he doesn't see it for a year and 155 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: then it comes back, or the car that he's never 156 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: seen and he only sees it once in the middle 157 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: of the summer, his repairs take longer. His his ability 158 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: to maintain it and diagnose it and bring it up 159 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: to speed take longer. And I said, yeah, you know, 160 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: that's that's not uncommon. That's something that is true to 161 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the country too, in that I see 162 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: an awful lot of If we don't see the car 163 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: on a regular basis for maintenance, then it becomes a 164 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: problem for everybody concerned. But it was very interesting something 165 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: else that I noticed and didn't get a chance to 166 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: really stop in and talk to them. But the body 167 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 1: shops in North Carolina, the body shops in North Carolina, 168 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, I look at the auto repair shops. Most 169 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: of the auto repair shops were like New Jersey, three four, 170 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: five bays. There was a couple of chain stores, no 171 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: name chain stores, non brand names. They weren't fire Stones 172 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: or good Years, but just names that were you know, 173 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: predominant down in the Carolinas, down in that part of 174 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: the country. Um, they had you know, twelve bay repair shops, 175 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: but it was mostly tires. It was tires and alignments, 176 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: truck work, a lot of exhaust work. I was surprised 177 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: at the number of signs that I saw that we 178 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: specialized in exhaust, that they still doing exhaust systems down south. 179 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: And you know, without the heavy snow that we see 180 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: in the North, with salt and rust and corrosion and 181 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: things like that, they're still doing a lot of exhaust 182 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: because and that shows you the age the population, you 183 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: know that they're working on those types of cars. But 184 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: what really is interesting, and this kind of got me, 185 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: and I'll be real quick here because I know we 186 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: want to get to the phones, um is the body shops. 187 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Everybody shop was at least twelve to fifteen cars in size, 188 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: you know the bays. There was twelve doors across the 189 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: front of every body shop. Most of them were two 190 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: or three cars deep. And when I was talking to 191 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: somebody about that, they explained to me, they said, you know, 192 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: this is big business down here. They'll go out to 193 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the country. They'll bring in cars that 194 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: are crashed or smashed or you know, damaged. Labor is 195 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: cheaper down here. It's cheaper to pay somebody down here 196 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: to work on it, and then they'll put it outline 197 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: to sell it. And that kind of explained it, because 198 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, there's an awful lot of used 199 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: car lots, used car dealerships in the Carolinas and Delaware, 200 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, driving down along that stretch of 201 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: the country, it was absolutely amazing to me. It seemed 202 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: that every five six miles now they used car lot. No, 203 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: they're used car lot. Now, they're used car lot, and 204 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: that it's a sign of the economy. By the way, 205 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: some some nice looking older cars. It was more than 206 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: a few, uh you know, specialty shops that were dealing 207 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: with older muscle cars that they were putting out front, 208 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: and you would think that it was one all over 209 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: again by the number of Chevelles that I saw on 210 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: display and just just just a time capsule and telling 211 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: you that order repair is a is a national phenomena 212 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: with regional consequences. Just like I've always said from way 213 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: back when, Hello and welcome Rod and Ady in the 214 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Here at nine zero zero, here to take 215 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: your questions and uh answer them whatever they might be. 216 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: If you are looking for more information, by the way, 217 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: about the two nine from launch, you can get out 218 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: to their website launch tech USA dot com and see 219 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: what I'm seeing it. Um. It really was a solid 220 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: little tool, and Phil was very impressed by it, and 221 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if I go back there next year. 222 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: He'll have a launch inside the shop. A lot going 223 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: on this hour. It's it's an interview free hour. I've 224 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: got a couple of comments and thoughts. I've got some 225 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: articles I want to write, I want to read that 226 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: people have sent into me that we're gonna talk about, um, 227 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: some interesting places the radio show has heard this week. 228 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: We've got an email from somebody in the Philippines that 229 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about and um, let you know what's 230 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: going out that way. But I am here to take 231 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: your calls at zero zero zero, marning any of the 232 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. When I return, we're gonna kick garage doors open, 233 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: don't go away, Welcome back r on an Indian card. 234 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: Doctor eight five five zero nine nine zero zero is 235 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: the phone number if you've got a car. If you've 236 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: got a problem, give the car doctor a call. We'll 237 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: figure it out together. Let's get on over and open 238 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: the garage doors. Let's go talk to Dennis and Maine 239 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: with the chevel and some overheating issues. Dennis, you're out 240 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: with the car doctor. How can I help? Yeah, it's 241 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: not an overheating issue. It's the issue is uh. Let 242 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: me just tell the story. Driving around the other day, 243 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: reached over, turned the air conditioner on, and everything lost. 244 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: All my power, all my electrical power. Um coasted to 245 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: a stop. I had a dome, light, headlights, that stuff, 246 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: but no crank, no gauges, no nothing on the engine 247 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: in Let it set for about two hours. Get in 248 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: and hit the key. Started right up. Run fine. Drove 249 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: it home next morning, get up, started it up, Let 250 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: it run up the temperature. Everything worked fine, cold, Let 251 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: it get up the temperature. Turned to the A C 252 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: on again. Everything run fine. Took it down the road 253 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: four or five miles, come back home, turn the a 254 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: C on the same thing, lost everything set my dome 255 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: light and I don't know what it go? Well, and 256 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: and this is a what year card Denis Chevell? Yeah, 257 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: eighty two, Chavell Melibo Okay, and uh what engine is 258 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: in this too? Okay? All right? Well, the first place 259 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: I would go is I would really want to know 260 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: what kind of shapes the charging system. And it wouldn't 261 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: be the first time that an alternator overheated and reacted 262 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: to temperature and stop charging or didn't charge as well 263 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: in the vehicle started running off the battery and when 264 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: you turn on the A C that extra load to 265 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: the from the electrical system drains the battery down to zilch. 266 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: Has anybody done in any sort of electrical or charging 267 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: system test to it? Uh? No, I haven't. I put 268 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: a new battery in it, you know when I got it. 269 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: I I've just had the thing for a year. Well, 270 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't know that it would be 271 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: a battery of course, obviously new doesn't mean good. And 272 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: I would sure as heck tested. It's a quick enough 273 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: simple test to do a load test to the battery. 274 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: But I would be you know, I would I would 275 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: do a load test to the battery. I would be 276 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: looking at terminal connections. I would be also concerned about 277 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: ground connections where the cable attaches to the block. This 278 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: is a car, This is an eight two into This 279 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: car's thirty two years old, real quick on the top 280 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: of my head. Um, yeah, so it's right. I would 281 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: I would also want to take a look at cables 282 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: and make sure the cables themselves are in good condition. 283 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, on an older car, you know barring 284 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: and let's let me just back up a second, barring 285 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: the simple barring that this is an alternator or charging 286 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: system failure. You know, when you get past or when 287 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: the mechanic gets past the Hey, Dennis, the charging system 288 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: is always putting out and it's always got plenty of amperage. 289 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: The current isn't a problem, et cetera. And you start 290 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: looking for the silly stuff. Let's let's start to talk 291 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: about the cables themselves. When if if, for example, of 292 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: the vehicle had a battery that was discharging acid and 293 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: the acid worked its way into the cable that cable 294 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: as it gets hotter, we'll start to insulate and prevent 295 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: current flow, and that vehicle will have a charging and 296 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: electrical system problems such as you're describing, because what what 297 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: what you're really describing to me is you're adding an 298 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: extra electrical charge or an electrical an electrical load, causing 299 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: the vehicle to shut down. How about it, instead of 300 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: turning on the air conditioning, you try turning on the 301 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: high beams or the wipers, turn on something else with 302 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: a high electrical demand. Have done that, and you know 303 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: everything was work fine on on it, you know when 304 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: it got hot. I mean when I come home at 305 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: that time, That's what I did. I had the headlights 306 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: and the headlights on at work, all fine, turn them 307 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: off with the wipers on, no problem. But as as 308 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: soon as I flip that air conditioner on, and I 309 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: didn't know if there was something in that system that 310 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: could be you know, well the air conditioning when you're 311 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: turning on the blower and the compressor, that is a 312 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: very high current raw typically as high as twenty two 313 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: to twenty five ams on the car of that age. 314 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: So you're putting a heck of a drain on the 315 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: charging system and if it can handle it for whatever reason. 316 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I would probably do too, is 317 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: I would turn on every electrical device in the cards, 318 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: start off with nothing and work my way up, and 319 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: I would monitor voltage and I would monitor system current 320 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: to see what the alternator is capable of putting out 321 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: and start to do some math and figure it out 322 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: from there as far as what's causing the problem. But 323 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: it sounds to me like either a charging system that 324 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: can't keep up, or we've got a problem with the 325 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: cables or the feed side not able to get enough 326 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: in to keep the vehicle happy. Right, they want to 327 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: cool back off, come back down, and make the connection correct. Yep, 328 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: that's a place to start, you know the thing well, 329 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: you know rambitious, you know, rambunctious. I want to make 330 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: sure there wasn't any you know, kind of an override 331 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: or something that no, no, uh, you know, unless a Dennis, 332 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, just for giggles. I've seen I've seen crazier things. 333 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: But it's an older car. Unless somebody's put an alarm 334 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: system in this, and I just want to throw this 335 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: in the pot. I've seen this before. Somebody will throw 336 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: an alarm system into the car and they'll trigger the 337 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: alarm system off accessories. I was in a sixty six 338 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Chevy pick up the other day, didn't have a key. 339 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: They had taken. They had taken the key and glued 340 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: a heat or control knob to the back of it. 341 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: I sat there looking at the dashboard for five minutes, gone, yeah, 342 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: I know there's a key here somewhere. It's got to 343 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: be I remember driving these as a kid. Um, so 344 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, if somebody put an alarm system in that, 345 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: and you know you have to turn the A C 346 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: on in order for the car to start, you know, 347 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: I just want to throw that out there. Probably not, 348 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: but it's you know, you have to start to you know, 349 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: consider the ridiculous somebody once said to me. When you 350 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: take away the obvious and you know, or you take 351 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: away the extreme wall that's left is the obvious and 352 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: you can start to the the duct from there. And that's 353 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: really what I'm just trying to get you to do. 354 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: But go through a charging system test. Go through a 355 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: charging system test, the battery, cables, connections, alternator, make sure 356 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: all that's in good working. Mortar and his one last thought. 357 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: When the vehicle is operating normally turn the directionals on? 358 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: How do how fast do they blink? When the vehicle 359 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: as your driving? If there's a way at time to 360 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: time turn the directionals on. Do they seem like they're 361 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: slowing down. Be mindful of where you turn the directionals 362 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: on you know, Ordertil somebody you're making a turn when 363 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: you're not. But it would be a good way to 364 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: look at the charging system or the electrical system to 365 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: see if if something is malfunctioning. One of the things 366 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: you might want to do, depending on how deep into 367 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: this you want to get before you turn it over 368 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: to the mechanic. If the car has got a cigarette lighter, 369 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: you can go out and purchase preten fifteen dollars from 370 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: a multitude of places, a cheap digital vault domemeter, hook 371 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: up a tap, tap it into the cigarette lighter, and 372 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: you'll be able to watch charging system voltage while you drive, 373 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: and you can watch it possibly fall off and catch 374 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: it in the act. Dennis, let me know how you 375 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: make out. I'm on any in the car Doctor. We're 376 00:18:39,800 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: back right after this. Welcome back if five six zero 377 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: nine zero zero Moneini and the car Doctor real quick. 378 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: Volkswagen has joined the list of automakers recalling vehicles over 379 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: air bag something important we all need to be aware 380 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: of all your Volkswagen owners out there. Volkswagen news report 381 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: came out this Piste week is recalling about four or 382 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: sixty one thousand plus cars in the States and Canada 383 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: fix a fault that could prevent air bags from deploying. 384 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: The world's biggest car maker said on Friday of last 385 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: week that the recall affected VW, Gulf Besotte Jetta models 386 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: assemble between and something to be aware of. So just Volkswagen. 387 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: Everybody's in the news lately with air bag problems. I 388 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: wanted to get that out there. I thought that was 389 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: pretty gush darn important. Let's get back to the phone. 390 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: Just going and talk to Jim Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Toyota Prius. Jim. 391 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help hi? 392 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: How I'm looking to buy a Toyota Prius A two 393 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: thousand and ten and I know average mileage should be 394 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: about seventy tho and it's got a hundred and seventy tho. 395 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: Is that anything to worry about? Uh? The hadn't look 396 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: up the car backs for me, and the Carfax says 397 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: to add to two thousand dollars to the trading value. 398 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: So it's been taken very good care of, right, But 399 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: where does it fall in terms of dollars that they're 400 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: asking versus what it says the car is worth. Are 401 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: you saying that they're the car is priced two thousand 402 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: dollars under what they're asking. No, the Carfax says to 403 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: add two thousand dollars to the trading value. Okay, well alright, 404 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: so but you know what are they asking for the car? Jim, 405 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: Let's let's do. Let's do. Okay, And you know how 406 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: much is a comparably equipped same age Prius with a 407 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles on it going for? Uh, probably probably 408 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: about eleven or twelve. I probably spend the eleven or 409 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: twelve because to buy something with less miles. And here's why, 410 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: for example seventy on it has anybody done? Has anybody 411 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: replaced the main battery? Yet not not the engine back 412 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: main battery. The main battery is only warrantied for a 413 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles or eight years? I think it is right, 414 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: that's correct. And is that is that the original one 415 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: that's in there? Yes, as far as I know, so, 416 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: they all the work that they have done had done 417 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: to the car. They've reported it to Carfax and uh 418 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: apparently they oh, they've had oil, all kinds of oil changes, 419 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: they had the tires rotated. Uh, they've had uh regular 420 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: maintenance done on it or whatever, and and uh that's 421 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: why the carfax says to add so much to the 422 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: value of it, creating value. You know, I don't. I've 423 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: never let carfax consumers or an information system dictate to 424 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 1: me value of a car. It's always common sense too. 425 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: There are god log you know, there are guideline. But 426 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: to sit there and say, yeah, it's worth two grand more, no, 427 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree with that because the first thing, 428 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: the first thing off the top of my head, if 429 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: that's the original battery in there. For conversation sake, let's 430 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: say the battery goes another thirty thousand miles, So in 431 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: a year, a year and a half, you've got to 432 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: put three grand in its replace that system battery. There 433 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: is there is they're asking eight. Now you're into the 434 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: car for eleven. All of a sudden, that car with 435 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand miles on it that you know, and 436 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: and less miles is less wear and tear. You know this. 437 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: This would be the same thing as buying a traditional 438 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: gas powered vehicle with a hundred seventy thousand miles on 439 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: it that had that had oil changes, cooling services, all 440 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: the fluids, the usual good stuff, tires, breaks, et cetera. 441 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: And I would always ask this question if the trans 442 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: failed tomorrow, would you put would you put a transmission? 443 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: And how would you feel? And if it's be I'd 444 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: be upset because that's spen three thousand dollars. My answer 445 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: is still the same, Go buy a car with less 446 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: miles and spend the more money. Now it's what are 447 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: you looking to deal with? Uh? You know the cars 448 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: approaching two grand? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Uh? Is it true 449 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: that anything below two is a reasonable mileage for for 450 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: a five year old car today? You know, if it 451 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: was well maintained. Again, you know, when you look at 452 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: what cars go for that previous news is probably in 453 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: the low teens, high low high teens, low thirties. And 454 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: you know, when you look with a replacement vehicle is 455 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: going to cost. I always also stopped to consider how 456 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use it. How are you going to use 457 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: the car? Jim? Are you gonna start driving across country 458 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: or are you gonna stick around seedar rapids? On? I 459 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: know I drive in town most of the time. Okay, 460 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: so you know you're don't usually drive a highway, right, 461 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: so you're you know, you're you're not taking any great 462 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: long trips with it. You know you've got you've got 463 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: somebody in town there that can work on a hybrid. 464 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm assuming, yes, my regular mechanic won't work on though that. Okay, 465 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: so they're not they'll they'll work on anything but the transmission, right, 466 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: So who's gonna work on it if there's a trans problem? 467 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: I really have no idea so far. I don't think 468 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: I have another friend that has one. And he told 469 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: me there's nothing to worry about, according to the engine 470 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: and the transmission. Hey, that's nice. Is he going to 471 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: tell me that when something happens, you know, you're basically 472 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: buying a house with a copper roof on it, and 473 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: now you gotta find somebody to fix it. Hopefully it 474 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: never looks. So let me ask you this, what's all 475 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: the fascination with a prius? Not that it's a bad vehicle, 476 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: but for for what you're doing for somebody, it's nice 477 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: to get fifty a gallon in town? Okay? Have you 478 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: noticed the price of gas lately? Yeah, it's going up, 479 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: isn't it. What's going down? Well, on our part of 480 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: the world, it's going, okay, well what here it was? 481 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: It was to eighteen a gallon, how it's totallon, here's 482 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: here's Here's what I want you to do before you 483 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: make this decision. Go find a comparably similar vehicle mileage condition, 484 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: costs to repair, dollars, and and and think about this. 485 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: If you find something similar to that, that a's thirty 486 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: thirty five miles to the gallon and the priest gets 487 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: fifty two, all right, think of what the cost difference 488 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: is gonna be for the guy that doesn't take long trips, 489 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: for the guy that spends a lot of his time 490 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: running around in town, and the guy that's now he 491 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry about finding somebody to fix the 492 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: copper roof on his house because it's nothing special, and 493 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: he can maintain relationship with this regular mechanic. You know, 494 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: if you were a delivery service and you really needed 495 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: miles per gallon. But at this point, one of the 496 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: things people don't stop to consider is the cost difference 497 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: between conventional gas versus a versus a hybrid. And with 498 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: the price of gasoline being what it is, how much 499 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: of a saving is it really if we're gonna make 500 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: this all about numbers, if this is really gonna be 501 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: about numbers, then let's make it about numbers. Let's look 502 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: at it from a practical point of view. Uh. You 503 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: know there's a reason that sometimes the numbers themselves just 504 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: don't work. So I'll leave it to your homework, Jim, 505 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: do your math and look at it from from that perspective. 506 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: Closing comment. Never look at an unormob bill from an 507 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: emotional perspective, not an everyday driver like this. Try and 508 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: be mathematical about it and you'll come out with a 509 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: winning combination. Eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero. 510 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: I'll run on any of the car doctor. We're back 511 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: right after this streets and drink. Welcome back. We're on 512 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor here with you at zero 513 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. Let's get over to Stanton, Virginia. 514 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: John talked to him about to pick him up truck. John, 515 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the card docticer you You're very welcome. What's 516 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: going on here? That's uh, we'll go into do yeah. 517 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: Uh to the deal about a year ago, by six 518 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: thousands ago, and they replaced the natal cylinder and the 519 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: slave cylinder. And after that I could get in gear, 520 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: but it still wasn't satisfied with it. So here a 521 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago it would not ship into gear again. Okay, 522 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: now does does does does the pedal? Does the pedal 523 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: feel normal? John? John? Does the pedal feel normal? Now? 524 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: The para taxa hope got the ants off the flower, 525 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: so it doesn't have it doesn't have full stroke on 526 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: the pedal, is what you're saying, right, Okay, when you 527 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: let out on the clutch, it texting ants off the flower. 528 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: All right, well, all right, let me ask the question 529 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: this way. If you push it on the clutch pedal, 530 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: does it have full height and swing? Not talking about 531 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: when does the clutch release or engage? Just does it 532 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: feel like a normal clutch pedal? It does? All right? 533 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: Did this vehicle sit for any length of time? All right, 534 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: it's just one day it woke up and it just 535 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: didn't want to go into gear, right, yes, okay, okay, 536 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: so you know if the system is bled, I'm gonna 537 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: assume the system is bled properly. You know, there's not 538 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: much here. If someone were to watch the slave cylinder, 539 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: does the slave the stroke of the slave pushing on 540 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: the fork match the stroke of the pedal. For lack 541 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: of a better way to put it. Uh, I don't know. 542 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: I didn't look at that. Okay, Well, because think about 543 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: how this works. This is all hydraulics, right, You push 544 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: it on the clutch pedal, and the hydraulics, the hydraulic 545 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: action out of the master has to displace fluid and 546 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: push the slave, which is like a wheel cylinder. This 547 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: is like a brake wheel cylinder, and move the clutch fork. 548 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: Does the clutch fork move? Does the clutch fork move easily? 549 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: Is the clutch fork is the pivot ball that the 550 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: clutch fork rides on? Is that worn? Okay? You know 551 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: last and I have seen this on vehicles if they 552 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: sat for and sometimes it happens short periods, short length 553 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: of time. I don't think this is the case with you, 554 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: but I just want to fill your head with this thought. 555 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: Is that I have seen where a clutch disk. You 556 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: ever see a clutch disc rusted to the flywheel? Well, 557 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: I looked on the internet and I said, I you 558 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: know what, I've seen that more than a few times 559 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: where the clutch disc itself physically rusts to the flywheel 560 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: and it drags. Sometimes it's frozen that you push it 561 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: on the fork and it will disengage the plate. But 562 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: the plate that disc can't break loose from the flywheel 563 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: and it won't shift. If you put this car in 564 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: first gear with the engine off and started up with 565 00:29:52,160 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: the clutch in, does the vehicle still move forward? But uh? 566 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: To something matter with it? It? Uh? And right? So 567 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: so the clutch with the clutch pedal depressed, and the 568 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: vehicle in first gear, if you crank it, the vehicle 569 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: would actually move forward. The starter cranking the engine would 570 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: drive the vehicle forward. Correct statement? No we ever put Okay, 571 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: that's my that's my question, John. If you push in 572 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: on the clutch and turn the key and the engine 573 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: starts with the vehicle in first gear, will the vehicle 574 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: move forward? Yes, that isn't what I asked you. Okay, here, 575 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: let's do this one more time. Pushing on the clutch, 576 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: All right, pushing on the pedal. Put the vehicle in 577 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: first gear, started, leave the clutch engaged, leave the clutch depressed, 578 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: with the engine cranking once it starts. Does the vehicle 579 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: move forward? If the vehicle moves forward, the clutch has 580 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: not disengaged from the flywheel. And now we're back to 581 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: the original part of the question. Is the fork damaged? 582 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: Is the pivot that the fork rides on not allowing 583 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: full travel? Is the release bearing damaged? Is their air 584 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: in the system? Is there something limiting the travel of 585 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: the slave? Not to be ruled out. I have seen 586 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: worn clutch linkage, bushings under the dash. I have seen 587 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: cracks in the firewall physically where the master cylinder flexes 588 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: and the full stroke of the pedal is not taken 589 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: up in the slave cylinder itself. But this is a 590 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: pretty basic dumb animal here. This is We're just looking 591 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: at breaks. That's all we're doing. It's all about hydraulics. 592 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: Pushing on the pedal. Does the slave move one for one? 593 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: Does the work react and move? Doesn't move smoothly? Is 594 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: it possible the collar or the input collar that the 595 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: main shaft of the transits on is gnarled up. I 596 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: don't care what Toyota did. Start to think about how 597 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: the system works, and then let's talk about how you've 598 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: diagnosed it, and let's break it down. And that's all 599 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get you to think about doing. So 600 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: take a breath, think about what I said, Call me 601 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: back next week. Let me know what you do. We 602 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: can talk about this again zero zero run an any 603 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: of the car doctor back right after this. Get kids 604 00:32:35,080 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: six six's welcome back. Weren't any in the car doctor. 605 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: By the way, the phone number eight five five zero 606 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero seven, that's the car Doctor's number. 607 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: That if we're not here on the air. This radio 608 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: shows live in most markets two to four pm Saturday 609 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: afternoon Eastern time. You can call eight five five zero 610 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero, leave a message and fast, Harry. 611 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 1: We'll call you back and get you in the queue. 612 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: We can talk to you about your car problem up 613 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: here on national radio. This article from our good friend 614 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: Anthony out in Chicago UM retired police officer Tony Emilio 615 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: ron This articles from the Chicago Tribune. It's an alarming issue. 616 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: Like you say, is there too much technology and we 617 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: aren't using our brain. Maybe someone should invent the garage 618 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: door opener that opens automatically when the carbon monoxide gets 619 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: too high. That's actually not a bad idea, Anthony. I 620 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: purchased a thirteen Toyota camera for the wife plane Jane 621 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals sunroof, but I did not follow her advice. In 622 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: Capital letters he writes and purchased an aftermarket remote starter. 623 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: Well after five events of the car starting on its own, 624 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: the dealer refunded the entire cost of the starter. I 625 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: think the dealer realized that the potential problem and envisioned 626 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: the law, huge lawsuit. The rule is listen to the 627 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: car Doctor, Anthony. I appreciate that he goes on to 628 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: close out. Thanks for your time. Myself and the old 629 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: retired corps from our weekly breakfast club really enjoy your show. 630 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: Thanks again for the T shirt. Very nice to your 631 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: friend and loyal listener, Tony Emilio out in Chicago. Well, 632 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: you know what, and listen, the car doctor is not 633 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: always right. All I do is I just relate to 634 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: you guys things that I've I've picked up over time. 635 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: And what Anthony is referring to Tony's referring to is 636 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: if you are going to use an aftermarket remote starter kit, 637 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: if somebody's gonna install it for you, get the instructions, 638 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: get the wiring diagram five years from now when they 639 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: no longer make that kit, and you've got to take 640 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: it into your mechanic. And I've been on the I've 641 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: been on this end of the problem. Way too many 642 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: times people bring me a car with a remote start issue. 643 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: I've got no schematic to follow. I have to reinvent 644 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: the wheel and spend time learning how the system works 645 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: before I can even diagnose it. And then typically I 646 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: have to find out that the component I need is 647 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: no longer available and I've got way too much time 648 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: in it. So it's easier for you and let expenser 649 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: for you if I've got the diagram so that I 650 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm looking at and how I'm looking at 651 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: it before I even get involved. Um interesting article, by 652 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: the way, Anthony, I was reading here. Keyless ignition deaths 653 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: part of disturbing trends. Um It talks about American drivers 654 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: generally had to do two things to put their get 655 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: their car keys out of the ignition, put it in park, 656 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: and turn off the engine. But new keyless ignitions are 657 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: changing that habit. Now drivers can walk away with their 658 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: key fobs and leave their motors running. So, um, yeah, 659 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: it's an issue. People are doing that, and some of 660 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: these cars are so quiet that you can hardly hear 661 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: them running. And it's gonna become a greater issue with 662 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: U with more technology being at it all the time. Hey, 663 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm run any of the car Doctor reminding you once 664 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: again the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you