1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for you're coming back. Part two is underway. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Who shot you the most that they left? Have you 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: been surprised by anyone that they ended up leaving? 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: Not big names, No, not on the talent side. 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 3: I had like a guy who was like worked for 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 3: the Goat went and worked for the World Empire State Building. That's. 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 3: That's like you're going to work for bricks, that's but 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: not not on the talent side, because again, we pay 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 3: really competitively, really well, and we're a good place to work. 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you of the talent that you've lost. 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the opportunity to bring one of 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: them back. You can pay them what they're getting, but 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: you only get one. 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 4: You only get one back of fee. 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: Call her daddy busting with the boys, Caleb, Are they gonna? 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: The question would be, well, do I know everything about 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: them that I know right now? 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: Yep? 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Will Compton, no doubt. 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Wow, So will be the guy that you'd be willing 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: to break the bank for. If you can break and 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: say you know what, the guy say, you know what, 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: if you give him X, we can say we can 24 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: save it, we can sell it. 25 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it'll be Well. 26 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: The reason is I think he's the most loves barstool 27 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: the most, like we get you know, I'll get people 28 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 3: put in front of me and their starts. A lot 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: of times it's like, well are they are they bought 30 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: into what we do? Do they want to like be 31 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: in these stupid like we had a skills competition, like 32 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: grooting last night's announcing it happy? 33 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: Or are they their own thing? 34 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: Like That's why I didn't say mcavie McAfee is a 35 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: super nova, but he's he's got a lot of interest 36 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: and he's w w E is this Like we want 37 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: guys who are like you know where. Yeah, it's like 38 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 3: I want to be here in the doors the more. 39 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: So that's why i'd say, well, okay, I like that. 40 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Uh damn bigcats bringing him away weekly listeners. I mean, 41 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this, bro, I just don't I'm skilled. 42 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm I figured it out and I've been looking at it. 43 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, how do you create. 44 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: This so that that is the number one SPORTSCA sports podcast, 45 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: I say, of all time, Like for the longevity they're 46 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: doing it, the numbers. He's maybe the most unappreciated guy 47 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 3: because he never went to a mainstream network He's just 48 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: a super talented, super hard working guy and people love him. 49 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: And PFT is. 50 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: Wildly talented, right time, right place and exploded. And I mean, 51 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: you know how hard it is to do stuff, Like 52 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: a lot of people come into this and they think 53 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: it's your throwy glove on the field and the thing 54 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: will be a. 55 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: Lot of work. 56 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: It is. People think you need. All you need is 57 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: a camera and a microphone and that's it. 58 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, So these guys work their asses off. 59 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: They've changed the whole way a lot of people do podcasts, 60 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: and people used to not put stuff out on Mondays 61 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: till after NFL Sunday. These guys were at the office 62 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: after the games. So they're just super talented, super hard 63 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 3: working and early. 64 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 4: How did you two meet? 65 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: He was a fan. 66 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 3: So when I expanded outside of Boston, I said, we're 67 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: looking for guys in different cities. 68 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: He applied. But how do you treat loyalty? 69 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: Because it seems like to me, umber one thing, you're 70 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: a very loyal guy and this I think it's for you. 71 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: And I'm just sitting here talking to you and I 72 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: don't really I didn't know you before we sit down. 73 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: I still don't know you. But I'm having a conversation 74 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: with you as I see you, as I talk to you. 75 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: Loyalty is the foundation of which everything you do. 76 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: Number one thing, number one thing. 77 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: If you're loyal to me, I'll be wildly I mean 78 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: wildly loyal to you. 79 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: But if you look at. 80 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: Us, we've had a guys who've been here, like employee 81 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: number one is still there. People have made millions when 82 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 3: we did equity deals just on like handshakes, and it's 83 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: a two way street. 84 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: And that's why I think, and all the way has 85 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: been respectible. 86 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: That's also gets me trouble sometimes because I feel like 87 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: I've been crossed. You know, you may hit me with 88 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: a feather and I come back with like a sledgehammer. 89 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: Always like an equal thing. 90 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, loyalty is a huge part of I don't 91 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: know why this is my personality. 92 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: What happened to the ESPN deal? You had an ESPN 93 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: deal and you mentioned earlier that you you they canceled 94 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: it after one show. 95 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they did, so here it real quick. Dan and 96 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: I used to do a podcast basically when no one 97 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: knew who we were, and we talked college football. Okay, 98 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: so at the time, Sam Ponder just took over for 99 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: Aaron Andrews. We're watching and she had a kid. The 100 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: kid was on the podcast. We made craft jokes about 101 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: her where like nobody wants to see your kids, Sam, 102 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: we want to slutt it up. 103 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: That's what I said, something. 104 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: To that effect. 105 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: By the way, I stand by, like, guys will watch 106 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 3: us here, pretty slutted up? Whatever, kid, this was the 107 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: Wild West. I didn't even know he said it. Fast 108 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: forward five years, they get the show and there was 109 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 3: a rebellion within ESPN, like, you know what these guys 110 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: said about you back in the day, and I think 111 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: there was so much pressure they canceled the show. Who 112 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 3: is the agent of hers who started? 113 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: He's a big deal? Con Nick con Yeah, and then 114 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: he asked me, Yeah, he. 115 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: Asked me to a fight in New York, like three 116 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: weeks after it happened. I sent I go, do you 117 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: think I don't know what the just happened? 118 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: At ESPN? 119 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: Like I know, complained, Yeah, so that's what happened to 120 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: yes man. 121 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: Bro, How the hell do you sell a company for 122 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: five for over half a bill and then back for 123 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: a book. 124 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: It's one of the great trades of all times. 125 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, it. 126 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: Was so we were sold to a gambling company. Yes, 127 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: gambling super regulated. You need licenses of Our state regulator 128 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: in Indiana doesn't like you. You're in trouble. I'm a 129 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 3: controversial guy. It was definitely creating issues for pen getting licenses. 130 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: They had an opportunity to do this deal with ESPN, 131 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: and I think they're like, you know, we're not the 132 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: right holder for barstool, rather than go to war with 133 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: me that we're friends. 134 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 2: That are like, this just didn't work. 135 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 3: Essentially, it was losing money at the time, so we 136 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 3: cut that deal. 137 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 2: I got the company back. I think they would have 138 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: taken it. 139 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: A lot of people would have lost their jobs because 140 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: wasn't a need for a lot. 141 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: Of what we have. 142 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: Idiots like, what are they gonna do if they lose 143 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: their job? They've done nothing else. So there's a bunch 144 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: of factors all coming together again. It worked out for 145 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: me right time. 146 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 5: Right Yeah. 147 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: But for a dollar they dollar, you. 148 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: Can't give it to somebody that's gonna be an official 149 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: sale dollar? 150 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: Why not? Okay? 151 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Why not one hundred million? Okay, they would have lost 152 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty million, but. 153 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: Damn, I won't pay one hundred million for it. 154 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 4: You wouldn't. 155 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: No, And I look at like this, I knew we 156 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: were alive. It's like I'm the guy like Daan's with me, 157 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 3: Like you need me bought in on whatever you're doing 158 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: with Barstool. 159 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 4: No, I want to pay a hundred But why why 160 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: didn't sell it to another company? 161 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: You need me in that probably too, Like what if 162 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: you sell that to a company I don't like? And 163 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: it's like, hey, this thing my baby that I've been 164 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 3: working on twenty years, maybe my right, Like yeah, they 165 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 3: they liked us, and it's like I don't think they 166 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 3: wanted to create a war, especially in the scheme of 167 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: what they did with ESPN, Like this was kind of small. 168 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: Either're a billion dollar company. 169 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so in the scheme of their world, it's like 170 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: we get along with them, let's let's do right by them. 171 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: So let me get this straight. That wasn't the first 172 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: time that you sold barstool second. 173 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: Second first sale was to the Churning Group Peter Churney right, yep, 174 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch's longtime second in command for fifteen million with 175 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: fifteen fifty one percent equity. The second sale to the 176 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: Pin Group one hundred and sixty three million, thirty six 177 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: percent of the company. The third sale pin Group three 178 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: and eighty eight million, one hundred percent of the company. 179 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: You said you'd never sell Barstool again. 180 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: In the deal we did. 181 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: If I sell it again, pen gets fifty percent of 182 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: the proceeds, so that right off. 183 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: The bat kind of prevents it. 184 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: And we're doing great. Like I I didn't love living 185 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: in someone else's world, So you know, I like where 186 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: we're at now. 187 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: If you want to write me a check for a. 188 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: Billion, I'll read like you know, yeah, I never say 189 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: never build purcells. 190 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: I reserve the right to change my mind. 191 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 4: Do you have to sell a company and become super 192 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: rich in America? 193 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: Or being finance like those finance guys who are trading. 194 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: For private equity? 195 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know when you buy it for a little 196 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, you getting on the bottle ports like Google 197 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: or something like. 198 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: That, Know those guys I mean next level? But yeah, yeah, 199 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: I think you do. 200 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: Can I ask you this, why don't you think you 201 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: could be canceled? 202 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: Because you say some pretty you it's some pretty some 203 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: pretty outlandish things. 204 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: If you back up a couple of things, if you 205 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: give people an inch, they'll take a mile. You can't 206 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: apologize for things that you don't think you've really up 207 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: or said bad things about which I haven't really done. 208 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: I stand by almost everything I've said. I think some 209 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: things may be out of contact, misconstrued. But if you 210 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: have a fan base that knows you, that truly knows you, 211 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: and mine does for like they've been following for twenty years, 212 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 3: they'll they'll have your back. Provided you know, I don't 213 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: think we've ever done anything out of hate, out of misery, 214 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: out of anything. 215 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 4: You don't believe, you don't feel that you've done anything deliciously. 216 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 3: I know I haven't done anything maliciously. And again I 217 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 3: a perfect example. And I know you're a Caitlin Clark fan. 218 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: I've seen I live for Caitlin Clark. I ignited to 219 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: a degree. I want to say the race aspect of 220 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: Angel Reese versus Caitlyn I will go to my grave 221 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: there was no race bind it. I watched a national championship. 222 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: I bet on Iowa. 223 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: I'm a Caitlin Clark fan. 224 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: I thought what Angel Reese did at the game was classless, 225 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 3: nothing to do with the color risk, and I tweeted 226 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: that and became a race. He's only said I had 227 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: nothing to do with that. I will stand forever. And 228 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: I think the way they acted for a long time 229 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 3: where Caitlyn didn't say a word and she's taken bullets 230 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: like they are coming out, that's not a race issue 231 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: to me. 232 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: For whatever reason with. 233 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: Me like well, Gilly apologize for me, They're like, oh, 234 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: we don't stand with Dave on that now. They told 235 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: me they were going to do it, but people there's 236 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: pressure outside. I will go to my grave. That's not 237 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: I'm never going to apologize for that because it wasn't malicious. 238 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: I stand by it. 239 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: And by the way, the biggest enemy is I got 240 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 3: a white Roger Guill, Peyton Manning and the heat of 241 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: the rivals. So it's like, you can, I'm not gonna 242 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: cater if the outside world's gonna take what I say 243 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: and just be all this is a racist, She's not. 244 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: I hate Lebron. 245 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: You know why hate Lebron? 246 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: Whoa whoa whoa whoa hate Lebron? Do we have part ways? 247 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: Because you know what Celtics Lebron were heeded rivalry and 248 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: you know who hated Lebron more than I did? Kg Rondo. Yeah, 249 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: so yes, I hate his guts and that's a rivalry thing. 250 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: So it is tough a lot of times though, Like that, 251 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: if I still show a picture of video of Angel 252 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: Reese like airball and a layup, people will be like, 253 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: that's because it's a race. It's like, no, it's because 254 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: I love Caitlyn. I don't like her because their rivals 255 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: and that's sports. Do you think it was orchestrated? 256 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: Do you think people actually write hit pieces or say 257 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: things or do things to try to see you fail? 258 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: Yes, no doubt, that's not even that's a fact. That 259 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: is it gonna get dark tonight? Yes, I know that's 260 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: a fact. 261 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: But why what is it that people get wrong about 262 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: day putting it? 263 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: I think people get a lot of things wrong. 264 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: I think I call it as I see it, But 265 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 3: I mean I was I was saying the victim of 266 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: a pretty aggressive smear campaign, like a couple of years. 267 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: Ago, like Business Insider. 268 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: And when you say, do I think it's a coordinate attack, 269 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: this is when we're part of Penn. Two vicious hit 270 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: pieces on me released the day before Penn's earnings, Like 271 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: that that that's a hit piece. That's not Hey, we 272 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: really think and I know the tactics went around reporting. 273 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. For that one. 274 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: I thought maybe because I got involved in this game 275 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: stop which like that stock thing, and I was chilling a. 276 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: Lot of big wigs. So I have no idea. 277 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 3: I think people get a little leary, maybe of voices 278 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: that they feel like they can't control, Like it's, hey, 279 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: we can't get this guy to say whatever, he's a 280 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: loose cannon. Or I've offended people. I've said things like 281 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: I ran the owner of the Mets, Steve Cohen, off Twitter, 282 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: like he deleted his account because I was hammered him 283 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: during game time. Oh. People be like, that's the worst 284 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: enemy you could ever want in a million billion years. 285 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 3: We're past it, But who knows. I really don't know. 286 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: I used to have I can see people at I've 287 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: had a lot of enemies. 288 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. Do you have a PR team? No? No? Do 289 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 4: you have a lot of free heads? Yeah? 290 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: Oh my yeah. I don't believe in pr PR. I've 291 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: I've never I don't want pr. PR is telling the truth. 292 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: I've seen you popping bottles in the pool with company. 293 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: The people that came for you, they go down, correct. 294 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: Why do you why do you feel that you need 295 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: to celebrate their demise? 296 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: Nuts not good. 297 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: That's my personality. It's what fuels me. 298 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: You know, Tom Brady's crying because he got passed over 299 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 3: by six quarterbacks. 300 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: I get fueled by people who doubted. 301 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: Me, who or more more accurately, for the Bottles, who 302 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: have gone out of their way to create difficulties for us, 303 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: the company. 304 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: They It's never I don't want. 305 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: Someone to like die, but I want their professional life 306 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: to be. 307 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 4: You want the professional left that. I don't want you 308 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 4: to do that literally, but I want you. 309 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: Like Skipper's the perfect example. We had the Bottle, we 310 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: puffed it, he canceled. You can cancel our show, but 311 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: to not call us and be like, hey, we're having 312 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: a company. I found out on the TV, like I 313 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: found out he never told us that. To me, it's like, 314 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: all right, you're dead to me now. It's that's how you're. 315 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: Gonna treat this. 316 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 3: We've been talking to you for a year and a 317 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 3: half and you don't even tell us the shows cancer. 318 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 5: Wow. 319 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: How dirty can this business get? Is it a dirty business? 320 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: Media? 321 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 322 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's real dirty. 323 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: But I mean. 324 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: Again, there's certain Did you know it was this kind 325 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: of this kind of way before you got really like 326 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: no into it. 327 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: I don't know as much as like the internal art 328 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 3: I think our company is naut overly like what goes 329 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: on at in ESPN eternable. 330 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 331 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: I've heard rumors it's pretty dirty, but there's different elements 332 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: of it, Like I don't concern I ended up getting 333 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: in like the politics realm a little bit. That's a scary, 334 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: dirty business. Like that's I think a lot of the 335 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: hate that comes my way, that's. 336 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: A hell of a lot dirty or that I think media. 337 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: I saw this situation going on at Fox skip Joy, 338 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: this hair stylish machine, and you was like, the accused 339 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: shouldn't listen to their lawyers. If I didn't do anything wrong, 340 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: If I didn't say anything wrong, I'm gonna shout it 341 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: from the tallest building I can because everybody didn't know. 342 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: I ain't have that. 343 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: This is not me and I did not do what 344 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm being accused of doing. 345 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent believe that I've been accused of 346 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: I didn't do And I mean I went instantly because 347 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: I knew I didn't do it. I think a lot 348 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: of times people are told, even our company, my lawyers 349 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: would be like, don't say It's like, I'm not gonna 350 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: perjure myself because I'm telling the truth, right. I think 351 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: a lot of companies don't give it about their employees 352 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: in that situation Fox, I'm sure the lawyers, I mean don't. 353 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: Say absolutely, yeah, you're part of a lawsuit, bro. 354 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And guess what, they're not looking out for you. 355 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: They don't about you. They care about Fox absolutely. If 356 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: you're innocent, there's no friends. I would I would scream it. 357 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: But you also, like Jason Whitlock came for you, So 358 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: how do you feel about the clown? 359 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: Jason Wentland's blocks clown. 360 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 4: Jason Whitlock is. 361 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: On the record as mean, I love Dave Portland. Dave 362 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: Portland is the best. He's this Jason Whitlock is a 363 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: click chasing clown. 364 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: Really, you don't say, yeah. 365 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: He's out there calling that girl. What do he's saying? 366 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 4: Big like butter sugar, Yeah, big peanut butters. 367 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: The next sentence you said that, like. 368 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 4: Have you ever met him? 369 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: Never? 370 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: He you know what he's He knows my name, He's 371 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: got me a couple of times to his credit. But 372 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: he's just fishing. He's taking his a little poll. He's 373 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: like maybe they'll bite and I'll get something click right. 374 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: I try to ignore it. 375 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: I tell people, actually, don't send me bad stuff about me, 376 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: because I have a hard time ignoring it. 377 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: I don't even want to know what exists. 378 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: But you do realize that when you do, when you 379 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: when you respond to people to take shots, that you 380 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: you're giving them content. They're lazy because they can't create 381 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: content on their own. So well, let me hope I can. 382 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: He can feed me. Yeah, and my Achilles heel is. 383 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: I don't give a like. It's like, I know I'm 384 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: being played here. I know he's getting clex, but this guy, 385 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: he's a clown. 386 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: You're forming Michael Rappaport clown too. 387 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: Damn are you friends with him? He's a crazy person. 388 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 4: You know. 389 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: We go back and forth. I like Mike, you know, 390 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: we not even. I haven't talked to him since I 391 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: left Fox, but you know he you know, he's a Lebron. 392 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: I like Lebron. He doesn't like Lebron, and so we 393 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: go back and forth. We have healthy conversation, healthy banter. 394 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: But I don't like I said, I don't really. We 395 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: had a huge falling out, so we hired him. I 396 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: thought he was super talent, right, Like, he had this 397 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: rant on a draft pick of the next But we 398 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: had a huge falling out. He essentially seriously said that 399 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: all our fans were idiots and stupid, and I had 400 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: to let him go. I was still friends with him 401 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: at the like, I'm like, I'm sorry, we can't have 402 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: you insulting. 403 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 2: Our entire fan base. 404 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and still work friendly. Why would he say 405 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: that he was in a fight with another one of 406 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 3: our employees and it spiraled. So I woke up to 407 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: this huge thing of him just killing our fan base. 408 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: Well, why did he just have if he had an 409 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: issue with the guy that worked in the company, why 410 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: not take it out of the guys got to do what. 411 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: Should have should he? 412 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: We would never have him falling out. 413 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: Then after that he started coming at me, which I 414 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 3: don't care. He's like, you know, I want to fight Dave. 415 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: I actually sent him I can't even lift my shoulder. 416 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: I sent him a contract to fight him in this 417 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: boxing thing that he had because he said, we do it. 418 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 3: But fine, all that talking, right, and then he suit us. 419 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: So he sued us for saying we defamed him. It's like, dude, 420 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: you you started the whole thing so ended up and 421 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: I had to go to like a deposition for it's crazy. 422 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: He calls himself the king of Talk and then he 423 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: was suing us over talk. 424 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 4: Wow. 425 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: Crazy. 426 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, how have you been able 427 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: to secure a major sponsorship brand when a lot of 428 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: people boycott's like, look y'all with barstool, y'all with point noe. 429 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 4: How have you been able to do that? 430 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 2: Day? 431 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: I think that's shifted because we've come more. We've come 432 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: fairly mainstream at this time, and he look, it's like, well, 433 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: we had all this talent. That's one the entire media 434 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: is moving our way. Like I mean again, I've heard 435 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: the stuff you talk about on your show. It's not 436 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 3: too different from anything we talked about on our show. 437 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: So he's become more mainstream and we delivered. So you 438 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: have those things, and we do right by our clients, 439 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: like I remember what I want? 440 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: Never mind not telling what happened. 441 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not telling no way. 442 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 4: I'd mean, this is the opportunity. 443 00:18:59,280 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: Nope. 444 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: How do you decide who you partner with anybody that 445 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: comes with a bang? 446 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: No, it's not just that because it goes back to 447 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: what you just said of we tell them, do you 448 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: know who we are? 449 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: Do you know what Dave is? Do you know what 450 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: he does? Pieter Van you know PMT. 451 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: Like be secure with what barstool is because we don't 452 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: want somebody. At the first sign of trouble, it was like, 453 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: what's going on here? We went because that is bad 454 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 3: for them, bad for us. So we gotta find the 455 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: right partners. There's a lot of them now. And again 456 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: it's crazy because I think we haven't done anything really 457 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: when you really look at what we've said and done 458 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: and then look at other things that have been said 459 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: and like like shack with angels when he's like I 460 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: want to see her playing in our underwear and like 461 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: running up that. If I said that, I'd be in jail. 462 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, in jail. 463 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: Are we going to see more of these deals? We 464 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: saw the Kelsey brothers get this big deal. We saw 465 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: call it, call you call her daddy, get get this 466 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,239 Speaker 1: big deal. Rogan is the top of food He just 467 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: got another quarter of a billion dollar deal. 468 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 4: Are we going to see more of these deals? 469 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so, But yeah I do. 470 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean you're picking top of the food 471 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: chain guys, right, so super talented people. 472 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: But all right, you just named three of the best. 473 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: If you're like, who's the theo, Vonne is definitely up there, 474 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: but there's only a hand. There's a hand PMT those 475 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: people will but in any business, if you take the 476 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: absolute top of the top, yeah, they're. 477 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: Still out there. 478 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: Investment besides Barstool, what's been your best investment? You say 479 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: you don't know anything about crypto. That seems to be 480 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: the hot that seems to be the hot investment to 481 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: be here. 482 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you gotta know what you're doing there. Most 483 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: of my investments have failed. Outside of Barstool, A High 484 00:20:54,800 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: Noon has been an unbelievable partnership. It's not really investment. Yeah, 485 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 3: I'm not good at investing. 486 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about making barstool its on streaming 487 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: service like a Netflix or Amazon? 488 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: Not so much in that, I don't. 489 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: I mean, would you want to, like, would you want 490 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: to like have an NFL game or an NBA game or. 491 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 3: Sometimes we tinkered with league rights, like we had a 492 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: Bowl game before Snoop with the Arizona Bawl was ours. 493 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: We did a college basketball tournament for me. Our business 494 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: model wildly expensive, like to pay for those live rights 495 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: and you better have some like huge deals. 496 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: So it's not something i'd say it's doing anytime soon. 497 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: What have you learned most about money? 498 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: Once you get it, it's easy to get a lot 499 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 3: more dizzy. Oh yeah, Like it took me ten years 500 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: to make anything. If you're like, hey, Dave, you got 501 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: to go make an extra five million in the next week, 502 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: I could do that like that. Once you got it, 503 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: it's once you get the over the hump, it's just 504 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 3: it comes. I remember the first time I saw it, 505 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: when I really got a lot, even me, I was like, 506 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: I spent five hours of talking about the interest I 507 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 3: was getting on it. I couldn't believe it. It's like 508 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: I'm making money not doing it. 509 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: It's just like that's where you're really making money when 510 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: you're sleeping, when you're not working. Yeah, and your money, 511 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: your money's working for you although you're not working for it. 512 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 513 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 3: But what it took so long for us to turn 514 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: the corner and make money, But once we got going it, it. 515 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: Goes what's your best and worst purchase? Are you? Are 516 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 4: you a car guy? You like expressing a car guy? 517 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 2: I got some houses that I love. A horse guy? 518 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, like what of horse thoroughbreads. 519 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 4: So you raise you try to get to the derby. 520 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: I wish so I'm poor for that world, like I'm 521 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 3: rich for ninety nine point nine yeah horse, No, I'm 522 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: still poor guy. 523 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: So it's really hard for me to con. 524 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 4: Know Bob Baffert personally. 525 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 3: I can get you to I know, I know, I 526 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 3: know he's gonna he's gonna need the money to get 527 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: the horses. So uh but my houses. I got a 528 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: Nantucket house. That's my dream house, the way million Yeah, 529 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 3: richest house in Massachusetts history. 530 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 2: That's why. 531 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: That's I grew up going like so my starred barstool. 532 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: I would go there for a day. Couldn't even get 533 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: a hotel. It's an expensive place barstool. As it was going, 534 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: I go for a weekend for a week, for a month. 535 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 3: Finally bought a little place and then I bought, like 536 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: my dream house. 537 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 4: So that's your that's your primary residence in Nantucket. 538 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: No primary is Miami taxes. 539 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, doing the tax thing that blame. Yeah, you gotta, 540 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: so you gotta Miami. You like you like overlook the water, 541 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: So you're a water guy, because Nantucket's on I like to. 542 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: Be on the water, but not on the water, Like 543 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: I don't want to be on a boat, right, I 544 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: don't want to be on the water. 545 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 546 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: Wow, houses, let's see, I just read that mccambling. I 547 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: like to bet really Oh yeah yeah, because you just 548 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: bet a million dollars on something the. 549 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: Bills to win the Super Bowl. 550 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: I made a million on trump coin in like six hours, right, 551 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: and like all right, I made a million on this 552 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: crypto coin, free bet, free roll, put it on, put 553 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: it on the bills. 554 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 4: So that was tough. 555 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: Are you Are you friends with a Dana Dana White? Yeah, 556 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 1: because he gambles too. 557 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 3: He gambles me into a into like like he's sitting 558 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: at the tables, yeah, playing it. 559 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 4: So you don't play tables, you just gamble like that. 560 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: I much prefer sports, yeah, Like I mean last night, 561 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 3: I'll bet college hoops. 562 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: I'll bet yeah. 563 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 4: What's what's what's the most you wanted a single single bet? I? 564 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: Uh, probably I had last year. 565 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: I think I won two point six million on Yukon 566 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: to win the national title. I want to I bet 567 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 3: straight a million mission guy bet them on the rose ball. 568 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 4: I went. 569 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: I got hot at the beginning of last year. 570 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 3: I think the Yukon is the single biggest that I won. 571 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: So when you win a bet, so like you're like, okay, 572 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: if I win this bet, do you like if I 573 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: win this bet, I'm gonna go buy this or you 574 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: just gonna take it and. 575 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 4: Like bet bet bet something? 576 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 3: Yet keep rolling, buy a horse, keep bet on sports. Yeah, 577 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not a outside of houses. I don't 578 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 3: really have extravagant. 579 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: So you don't like a car, you're not an old 580 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: school car like maybe a sixty or Chevity's available. 581 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: I have a seventies remade Bronco, the ones that they 582 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 3: like remake the grass. 583 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 4: I have one of those. 584 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: So I do like the old cars, and they're good 585 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 3: Island cars for Nantucky. But I'm not like a gearhead, 586 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: like if the thing breaks down them, what's his next? 587 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 4: What's that look your day? I call you a legitimate degenerate. Yeah. 588 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: I yelled at him for that. 589 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: He's like, you take care of him, right, Yeah, of 590 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 4: course I do. And he called you that. 591 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: Not only did he call me that, he they the 592 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 3: New York Times was writing a hit piece on me, 593 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: used his quote against me, and like the New York Times, 594 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 3: he contributed. 595 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he even he did his article. 596 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 3: He felt really bad about that, But I've gambled dad. 597 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: He used to take me as a horse racing. 598 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 3: It was a documentary we made and he was talking 599 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 3: about me and they took his quotes and then I'm 600 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: like I called him, like, hey, just so you know, 601 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 3: the New York Times is using you as the lead 602 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 3: witness on why I should be banned from the gamble. 603 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, that was I wasn't. 604 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: Happy about that. At what age did you start gamble? 605 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: You say your dad took you to the go to. 606 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: The horses and beat with him as a kid, go 607 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: to Saratoga. So I was always interested like sports. 608 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: I always loved it. 609 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you you you like betting the ponies? 610 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: Love love? 611 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 4: So you still you still bet the ponies like that? 612 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 4: Love it? 613 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 614 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just bought like a horse, a couple of horses, 615 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 3: so yeah. 616 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: I love it. I absolutely love it. I love the animals. 617 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 3: I love like I have a house near Saratoga Race track, 618 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 3: walk over. 619 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: Feed the I love all of it. 620 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 4: They eat a lot. 621 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, Secretariat and Joe Blow costs the same amount of money, 622 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 3: hey is Hey, so they're expensive. 623 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: So when you first started boss Stool, you you file 624 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: bankruptcy protection after losing thirty k. 625 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my dad. 626 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: Did you did you did you think that you could 627 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: bounce back? Because I hear a lot of people you're 628 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: not the first. I mean you're not going to be 629 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: the last that's file bankruptcy and were able to bounce back. 630 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't even bouncing back. 631 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 3: My dad again, is an attorney, right, so I had 632 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: when I started barstool like shuffling around doing everything. He's like, 633 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 3: you know, you can get rid of this. I swear 634 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: I aske him one. I'm like, well, this come back 635 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 3: to bite me. As he gained the system. 636 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 4: He's like, do it. 637 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: I mean thirty grand a lot, but not a lot 638 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: in hindsight. I would never advise that to do it. 639 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: And I think they actually changed the laws. He's like, 640 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 3: they're going to change that. So yeah, that was also 641 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: in the New York Times. 642 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 4: How'd you How do you get a sixty thousand dollars 643 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 4: credit card? 644 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: That day? I had like ten different credit cards? 645 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 5: What the hell were you buying? I was starting the business. 646 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 5: I was okay, okay, putting everything. I was just moving 647 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 5: everything around. Yeah, and you old your dad eighteen? Would 648 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 5: you have paid him back ten Pole that my. 649 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 3: Dad's got, my dad's got his apartment they got in Florida, 650 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 3: and yeah, they're taking kills. 651 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 4: Is it really hard to start a business from scratch? 652 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: Super hard? 653 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 3: I mean the thing about barstool is the only thing 654 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 3: I've ever done and it became successful. 655 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: I always thought it would. 656 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, ninety five percent businesses probably fell Again, I 657 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 3: always believe we would, but that doesn't I may have 658 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: just been that again, a lot of luck involved in 659 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 3: the right place for a time. 660 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 4: You ever had a tax leaning place on? No business lesson? 661 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: What's your biggest business lesson that if you could teach 662 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: someone like, what would you tell them? 663 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 4: What was some of the first things starting a business? 664 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 2: Don't listen to other people. 665 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 3: There's so much people talk about doing stuff and just 666 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 3: do it. And that's not really a business lesson, but 667 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 3: it's you write a business plan, you do this, you're 668 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 3: talking you're trying to do all just do it, like 669 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: kind of get into it and figure out where it goes. 670 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 4: What about Hawk Toy Girl. 671 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean, she came out, she had a moment of fame, 672 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: and then she come out with this coin and then 673 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: they get it in the boom. 674 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: I would have bet my life I was not getting 675 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: a Hawkta question during this. 676 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: I did not see a hawk To. 677 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 4: How do you scale people out in cryptocurrency? 678 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: So the way I understand it, because I knew you 679 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: would understand someone like that To can't do this herself, 680 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: even if she wanted to. She needs other people. And 681 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: like if I want to launch a coin, which I've looked, 682 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: you need other people to do it. A lot of 683 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: these people are shady. They have the controls. Hawktua didn't 684 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: have the control. They're telling her he can make this money, 685 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: can do that, and once it goes these people basically 686 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: pull this escape latch and no one. 687 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: Knows who these people are, and Haktua sit of it. 688 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, well we don't know them. We got you, Yeah, exactly. 689 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: So I think that happens to a lot of these 690 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: There's been no successful celebrity coin launch. You could argue 691 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 3: Trump's has been successful because it's still there, you can 692 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: still trade it. But like Logan, Paul had a bad one. 693 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 3: This Hawktua clearly was bad. What's his name, the Fighter 694 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: did one the other day. He may have intentionally, Ryan Garcia, 695 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if he intentionally did it. 696 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: He deleted, so none of them have been. 697 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 4: On the up and up. You was married, would you 698 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: do it again? 699 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: I'd have to know it was dead ass right, like, 700 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: and I don't know how I would. 701 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 4: How do you know? 702 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: I don't know how I know. So that's why it's 703 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: hard for me to answer. 704 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: What do you learn from What did you learn during 705 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 4: that marriage about yourself? 706 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: She's still my best friend, Like we get along. 707 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: Better as friend and yeah really yeah. 708 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: But she was with me at the beginning of this company, 709 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: and like, if she called me right now, it is 710 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: like I need you, I'd be there. 711 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: Like where it doesn't work as a marriage. 712 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 4: How's the dating life of dayport? 713 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 5: No? 714 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 4: It right now? 715 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: So I'm talking to a girl. 716 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: I went through a wild stage kind of like because 717 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 3: when I started, I was married, knowing who I was, Like, 718 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 3: girls weren't exactly available to me. I had no money, 719 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: no future, no career. Then you become famous. That kind 720 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 3: of changes the game a little bit and a lot 721 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 3: more options. So and I was no longer married, So 722 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: I went through a pretty crazy time, I would say, 723 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: but now not nearly. 724 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: I don't even like going out anymore. 725 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 4: HOLDO, is it true your ex wife have access to 726 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: your bay the gun. 727 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I told you I trust her implicitly. I beg 728 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: your pardon implicitly. I trust her. If she wanted to 729 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: take it, she could. There's very few people that you 730 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 3: meet where you can trust implicitly and to be honest, 731 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 3: she was there when we were living at the in 732 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: law's house. She was there when we couldn't afford a hamburger. 733 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: She was there through the grind. She to me, just 734 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 3: like we kind of separated when we started making it, 735 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: so she doesn't get to enjoy any of that. 736 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: To me, that's not right. 737 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm a loyalty guy. 738 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 4: You are a boy. You you lock the saw for real? 739 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 4: I don't know too many people too. 740 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: And it surprises people. But she gonna if she want 741 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: to do something with it. She could have done that 742 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: long time ago. 743 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: Bill Gate said he regrets getting the bors and you 744 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: said that she's your best friend. Now do you regret 745 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: getting divorced or this is the best thing that could 746 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: have happened? 747 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: It was the best thing. Yeah. 748 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 3: Then Bill Gates's wife also like drag him over the coals. 749 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: I think I think she did. 750 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 3: I mean I think she said some nasty shit about 751 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: him too. 752 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think he said he probably shouldn't 753 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: have been as close as he was to Epstein, and 754 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: some things like that go. 755 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: Wrong with that. 756 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: That's a pretty pretty good thing to say. 757 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 4: You probably wish I should have say. 758 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: But I tell you what. Tom Brady's wife having a kid. 759 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: Do you let me ask you a question. Do you 760 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: think that bothered him? 761 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: Yes, he posted that cryptic Instagram message like a sunset 762 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 3: or something. 763 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it bothered them. And like they knew 764 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: each other, didn't they. 765 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that was her like a trainer when they 766 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: were together. So Tom is probably thinking in the back 767 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: of my mind when I'm on it and I'm studying 768 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: and I'm away. 769 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: I think that's why he still posts like the shirt 770 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 3: list photos. 771 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: Let you letting the world and know he's still out there. Yeah, damn, 772 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: but I'm sure I think it does bother me. 773 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: But let me ask you. Let me ask you this. 774 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: If your ex wife is she married, she remarried? 775 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 2: I think that, Yeah, they just had a kid. 776 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 4: Your ex wife, Oh no, I thought you know your 777 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 4: ex wife. 778 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 3: If your ex wife she's dating somebody boyfriend, are you 779 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 3: cool with that? 780 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: I wanted to be happy it's true. 781 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: But then she got. She can't getting a wax this day. 782 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: She got a kinda cut off cut, a cut off 783 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: cut a. 784 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: Little I won't even notice if it's gone. 785 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 4: You mean to tell me she might She might. 786 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: I mean if she takes it all. 787 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, but she might take like you 788 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna have this. I'm gonna have this 789 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: extravagant wedding. I'most spend you know, half a million on 790 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: the wedding. 791 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 4: You cool it? 792 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent, one hunder lord, have mercy. 793 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 4: You want kids? 794 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: No, I hate kids. I do. 795 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 4: I hate kids. 796 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: I have no intrusting kids right now. None. 797 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 4: Really, I hate kids. You don't. You don't want a 798 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 4: little day for a little day, No, a little point. 799 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: Junior, No, I hate I'm a dog guy. 800 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: I hate kids. 801 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: Don't like being around them, don't like them, don't think 802 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 3: they're cute, don't want to hear about them. 803 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 4: What about your upbringing? You have? You have a pleasant upbringing? 804 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 4: With it? 805 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 806 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: Super, it says middle class. 807 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 3: And I'll bring a little suburb outside of Boston one sister, 808 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 3: very as black normal for like a white middle class 809 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: kid as you could ever. 810 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 4: Have you played football, baseball? 811 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: You played baseball. 812 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, football, I have a bump shoulder and need like replacement. 813 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, I was pretty good at baseball. 814 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 4: You go to college, go to baseball scholarship. 815 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 5: No. 816 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: I thought I could walk on at Michigan. 817 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 4: Couldn't. 818 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: Didn't even come close. 819 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 3: They were really good. It wasn't that they were really good. 820 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: They just didn't do like real tryouts. To me, it 821 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 3: was like like that. It's like, hey, take three swings. 822 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: They took no walk on. So there's nobody who made 823 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 3: the team. 824 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: Wow, you were diagnosed with skin cancer and had it 825 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: surgically removed from your neck? 826 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 4: Did you did you know? I mean did it with 827 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 4: a spot or something that you do? 828 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 3: I'm always in the sun always, so I just started 829 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 3: doing the routine checkups whichever once you do. They found 830 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 3: a little dot. I would have never known, and they 831 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 3: cut it out. 832 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 4: Did you do sunscreen? 833 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 5: Now? 834 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: A little bit? But you know, even the I like 835 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: the sun. Let's just say that. I like tan. If 836 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 2: can't if can't tone. 837 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 4: It, tan it. You were against a TikTok band. 838 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 3: I was why because I think there's so so many 839 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: small businesses and creators who are earning a living. I 840 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: think that people are talking about have no idea what's 841 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 3: going on social media? And if you're building something and 842 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: that's your primary platform you've been building out for years, yes, 843 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 3: and you just get ripped away, Like you can't just 844 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 3: be like all right, I'm going to Instagram. That's not 845 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 3: how it works. 846 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 2: So to just rip that many. 847 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 3: Livelihoods away or advertising agencies without a plan, that that. 848 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 2: Really bothered me. 849 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 4: Do you believe it was political? Yeah? 850 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't get the it's all China, 851 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 3: but everything's political and posturing and things like that. I 852 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: don't really get the spy ship. I mean, I don't 853 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 3: get where they're learning from. But it was really small businesses. 854 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: Are you okay with these billionaires? These big companies try 855 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: to particularly buy TikTok. 856 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 4: Control a lot. You control media, man, you. 857 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: Definitely control the media, and Trump has if you look, 858 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 3: you got the Amazon he go Zuckerberg. Yall, So I 859 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 3: get that, And yeah, so I get that, but I 860 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 3: would I would say times are always shifting, and people 861 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 3: like the left definitely we're controlling the New York Times, 862 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 3: in the Washington Post and NBC and so a lot 863 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: of that. 864 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 2: You I and this is maybe. 865 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: Unfair, but I would hope that no one vehicle shapes 866 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 3: somebody's opinion. Like if I see something and I'm like, 867 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 3: what the Hopefully you go research it on your own 868 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 3: and you can make your own decision. 869 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 2: But it is a concern Brady Mahomes. 870 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 4: If Mahomes wins the three p does he pass Brady 871 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 4: as the goat? 872 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 3: No? And it's an easy answer now that you can 873 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 3: say that's the best team because they won three, but 874 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 3: we have the benefit of them meeting head to head 875 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl in Tampa Bay. Brady won AFC 876 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: Championship at Kansas City Brady one, So you gotta if 877 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 3: they played and Brady's at the end of his career, 878 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 3: still beat him. So I don't know how you can 879 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 3: now he keeps do we win seven in a row? 880 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 3: Different stories? Not yet. 881 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this. You're Taylor Taylor Swift Swifty, 882 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 4: so you're rooting for the Chiefs and Kelsey. 883 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 2: No, I'm not, because I told you. 884 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 3: Taylor Awan asked, I didn't know Patrick Mahomes hated barstool, 885 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 3: but he does. 886 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 4: He does. 887 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I found that out today. 888 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 4: Uh. 889 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 3: Taylorwan at media session, asked if Mahomes would do in 890 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 3: an interview with busting that they're leaving. 891 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: He's like, now they were leaving barstool, will you. 892 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 3: Do an interview with us? He's like, yeah, that helped. 893 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 3: So I didn't know he hated us, So now I 894 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 3: don't like him. 895 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: Well, what made you defend Taylor Swift against when Kanye? 896 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 3: Kanye? Kanye is a piece. Kanye is an absolute piece. 897 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 3: I don't get people out of defend him. 898 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: You know what I noticed people that you don't like. 899 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: There's no misinterpretation of where you stand all these Yeah, I. 900 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 3: Think Kanye is one of the great free passes of 901 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 3: all time. Now I'm Jewish. He hates Jews, loves Hitler, 902 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 3: so you're not gonna be my cup of tea. Like 903 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 3: if you're going around me, I like what Hitler did, 904 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 3: It's like, well, I don't like you, right. So what 905 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 3: he did at the Grammy's the first time when he's 906 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 3: full her award. This is a seventeen year old girl. 907 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: I don't know what his problem. He thought someone else 908 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 3: should win. You have no problem with her. This girl's seventeen, 909 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 3: you're stealing it. And then after that they edit a 910 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 3: phone call. They edited a phone call her and Kim 911 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 3: Kardashian of Taylor when the uh, I want what I 912 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 3: want to see? He put it all yeah, and they 913 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 3: say we asked, we called her, she said's fine. They 914 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 3: put out an edited voicemail that made it and they 915 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 3: recorded her that made it sound like she agreed Taylor 916 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 3: the whole time. I didn't. 917 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: That's not how it went. I didn't say that. 918 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 3: Years later, the actual voicemail, unedited comes out. Everything Taylor 919 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 3: said was the truth. Everything they said was a lie. 920 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 3: That drives me crazy, and it did affect her. She 921 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 3: didn't leave her house like a year because all Kanye 922 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 3: fans are trashing her. So I'm a big like truth straightforward. 923 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 3: It resonated with people trying to smear a name. So 924 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 3: that made me start like Aaron. Then I got into 925 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 3: the music. But yeah, that's how that's that. 926 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 4: And she wrote your handwritten lister. She did. 927 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 3: I went to the concert, her brother tapping on the shoulder, 928 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 3: handwrit letter, and the letter essentially said, and a lot 929 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 3: of people would think these are two people who are 930 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 3: not gonna be friendly or aligned, but it basically said 931 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 3: to the effect, we appreciate the sport. I think we 932 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 3: kind of see similar on when people say things about 933 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 3: you that you stand by and don't think was true. 934 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 3: I hugged her mother, so I think she appreciated the sport. 935 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 3: Because Connie is huge. Sometimes I don't think and people 936 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 3: said about me the influence he wields. But he says, 937 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 3: like what he did the other day at what do 938 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 3: you think of what he did at the Grammys with 939 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 3: the naked girlfriend cliques? 940 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 4: He got what he wanted. I mean, my woman is 941 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 4: that My wife is the most h. 942 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 3: Googled. 943 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 944 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 3: If I walked into the Grammys and I shot somebody, 945 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 3: they're gonna google me like that, like this shock value. 946 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't get I don't get him either. 947 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: Your patriots, we know your patriots may huge? Uh you 948 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: Rod Mayo? He gets one year, four and thirteen and 949 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: they come on, they bring Babel back. What do you 950 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: think about that firing? I know, I don't know if 951 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: you're a Craft fan or not. 952 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 2: I am. 953 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 3: I mean it's tough because I think I don't know 954 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 3: if you can say two things can be true. 955 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: Mayo got screwed. 956 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 3: I don't know how you can give a guy one 957 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 3: year in how he can be your guy? 958 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 2: The team sucked before he got there. 959 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 4: What were you expecting, So let let Belichick go. 960 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 3: Correct and by the way, they were bad with Belichick 961 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 3: at the end of his tenure. 962 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 4: Correct horrible. 963 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 2: So I don't know what people are expecting. 964 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 3: And to me, it's like, you got your quarterback Drake 965 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 3: may who I think had right, so you got a structure. 966 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 3: I love Rabel as a coach, so it like, I 967 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 3: I'm glad they I would have been okay either way, 968 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 3: but it's like, well, Rabel's probably not going to be 969 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 3: there if you don't get him this year. 970 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 4: No, he's not right. So I love Rabel as our coach. 971 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 3: Having said that, if I was drawd Mayo, I'd be 972 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 3: pissed and he got screwed. 973 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: I know you a big You're Celtic, you all things Boston, 974 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: And I know you're a big Jason Tatum fan. 975 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 4: Yes, because you're. 976 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: Upset about Steve Curran not playing him at the Olympics, 977 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: and and you're upset about Brandon Jennings calling him the 978 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: softest Boston Celtic superstar ever. 979 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, he takes a lot of heat. 980 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 3: I don't know what why, I don't know what they want. 981 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 3: What do they want from the guy like you just 982 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 3: won a world championship, I think, But they're I'd be 983 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 3: stunned if they don't repeat. They're loaded, they're good. I 984 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 3: don't I don't know what the hell they want from 985 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 3: the guy. I don't know why didn't play in the Olympics. 986 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 4: Right, You think he's a top five Celtic. 987 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 3: That's such a tough obviously, Bill Russell, Larry Bird. 988 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 2: Coozy. Yeah, yeah, he's getting there. 989 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 4: There's you got Paul Pierce, Paul Michale. 990 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna Potatum above those tough. 991 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 3: We've got so many greats, and I could be cause 992 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 3: I think the thing is is like, okay, Piers only 993 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 3: got one, yeah, and Tatum still got a lot. 994 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 4: Yeah he's young. I think Tatum what twenty six? 995 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so right now, maybe I take Pierce. But I mean, 996 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 3: if he wins this year, I'm a big championship guy. 997 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 4: What about the Lakers getting Luca You upset about that? 998 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 2: Huh No, I'm not O. 999 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 3: That was crazy, an absolutely crazy move. I mean nobody, 1000 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 3: I think really. 1001 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 4: Knows, nobody knows how to but. 1002 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 3: And I mean I don't know how Lebron and him 1003 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 3: are gonna coexist necessarily. It's like they have no rim protectors, 1004 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 3: so it doesn't the craziest part is they didn't shop him. 1005 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 3: That to me makes no sense from what you've read. 1006 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 3: It's like they were just sending him to the Lakers. 1007 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 5: Uh. 1008 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 4: Not crazy, Bronni. If you had you don't like him. 1009 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: But let's just say, for the sake of argument, and 1010 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: you had a kid, and you know what, and you 1011 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: you're doing what you're doing. Now, would you like do 1012 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: everything you can to kind of steer your kid into 1013 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: profession that you're in, or you let him charge his own. 1014 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 2: I'd let him do his own thing. Like I Actually 1015 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: I feel bad for Bronnie right now. 1016 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 3: I think it's crazy that he's on that team and 1017 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 3: the attention he's getting, and you know, it's one of 1018 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 3: my all time lebron takes. 1019 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 2: He's like he said, he wants to kind of like. 1020 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 3: He felt bad putting all the pressure on him. But 1021 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 3: you name the Brownie Junior and you put him on 1022 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 3: the Lakers. It's like you put them in a pretty big. 1023 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 4: Spotlight red spotlight. 1024 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 5: Uh. 1025 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: The Wolverines, the quarterback twelve million dollars Underwood, Underwood and 1026 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: you chipped in. 1027 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 4: So I got. 1028 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 3: Involved in this in one of the craziest Nil stories. 1029 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, we want to hear this one. 1030 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 3: So I'm a Michigan guy and now I'm not a 1031 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 3: firm believer. I'm not like Michigan's a rich school. They 1032 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 3: didn't care about me until I started getting money. 1033 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 4: I root for him. 1034 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 2: Well, you start getting money and suddenly the phones ringing. 1035 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 4: And I'm dude with a new day. 1036 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah right exactly. 1037 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 3: It's like, hey, I say, you love Michigan, but the 1038 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 3: NIL stuff starts happening and I get a call or 1039 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 3: it's like, hey, this person wants to talk to you, right, 1040 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 3: And it was a woman's name. I had never heard of, Yolan. 1041 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 3: I think Jolan Jolan. I'm like, so I'm not. I'm not. 1042 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with the alumni. I don't 1043 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 3: want to deal with any of this, Like, I'm not 1044 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,479 Speaker 3: into it. Well, her her husband is the oracle guy. 1045 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 4: Larry else. 1046 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll take that call. 1047 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 3: Like, so Larry's gonna be on the call, all right, 1048 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 3: I mean a legend, like second richest guy on earth. 1049 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 3: So Jolan went to Michigan, big Michigan fan, right, Larry 1050 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 3: Elison suddenly big Michigan fan, and they're there what they 1051 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 3: were waiting for. I said on a podcast, I was 1052 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 3: so mad after Michigan loss. I'm like this, I will 1053 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 3: buy us a quarterback. I'll do three million. I'll find 1054 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 3: us a quarterback. We're never gonna have no quarterback again. 1055 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 3: That provoked Jolan. She's like, Aha, someone else cares about 1056 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 3: Michigan as much as I do. That's how the conversation started. 1057 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 3: They're like, we're recruiting this kid right under it. I 1058 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 3: already knew bouh them because people told me, right he 1059 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 3: went to school twenty minutes. 1060 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 4: North, right because he's going to LSU. 1061 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 2: Yep. 1062 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 3: Two days later, we're on a phone call with Larry 1063 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 3: Elson myself Michigan in the underwoods. It's like out of 1064 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 3: a movie and we're pitching this kid. It literally it's 1065 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 3: like what world am I in? I could tell and 1066 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 3: knowing this was all my interpretation about the money, I 1067 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 3: didn't kick in anything. 1068 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 2: I'm getting credit for it. 1069 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 3: Larry Ellison, they bought the quarterback and what it's just 1070 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 3: crazy world of nil. 1071 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: So, so how much did the kid get direct deposited immediately? 1072 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 3: That don't all Probably a decent amount. I think I 1073 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 3: think LSU just couldn't I mean, how can anyone. 1074 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 2: They could and he's he's a monster. 1075 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 5: Wow. 1076 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 2: It's a crazy world, the n I. 1077 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: L But do you ever get do you ever think like, Okay, 1078 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: you invest all this money in the kid and it 1079 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: doesn't pan out. 1080 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 4: I guess that's the chance you take with an NFL player. Guy, 1081 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 4: you pay a guy big. 1082 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 2: Think about Larry Elson, he can he can cycle through? 1083 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1084 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, when you worn't two billion, twelve billion? You 1085 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: not even missing that you even though it's going out 1086 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 1: of your Kennedy money. Has the Big ten surpassed the 1087 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: sec at the top. 1088 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,879 Speaker 2: That's no doubt. 1089 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 4: I think. 1090 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 3: I think once an il came. 1091 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 4: Level to playing field, Yeah, because. 1092 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 2: They're already paying them. Now everyone's paying them. I mean, 1093 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 2: ask exactly what happened? 1094 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 4: What do you what do you get? A degree in it? 1095 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 4: Universe education? 1096 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 3: I couldn't pass, So I went to Michigan weird I 1097 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 3: got into I applied to the Liberal Arts just the 1098 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 3: general program. Got denied. They wrote back a letter, we 1099 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 3: think you'd be a good nurse. I don't know why 1100 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 3: this is a nurse nurse? 1101 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 4: How did you apply? How do you get Liberal Arts 1102 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 4: go from nursing? 1103 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 3: They mustn't needed male nurses. And by the way, I 1104 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 3: pass out of the sight of blood. So I don't 1105 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 3: know where they got that. My sister was in school. 1106 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 3: I called, she went to Michigan. Said if I go 1107 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 3: as a nurse, can I transfer to the Liberal Arts. 1108 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 3: She said, yeah, went to Liberal Arts. Couldn't pass my 1109 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 3: Spanish requirement education school no Spanish, So I just kind 1110 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 3: of scheming my way to get my degree. So I 1111 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 3: had an education degree that you never used, never used, 1112 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 3: never had an intention to use. 1113 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 1: The first company you started before barstool, you started a 1114 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 1: company that match student app lead with college recruiters. 1115 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 4: It was called Next Step Scouting. 1116 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 3: Yep, so you kind of never started that. 1117 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 2: That was one of my ideas. 1118 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 4: That was one of the ideas. 1119 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 3: So the and this is internet one point. Oh okay, 1120 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 3: so you have athletes not Division one. These guys aren't 1121 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 3: going pro. The concept was a D three guy coach 1122 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 3: still wants to win. Help them recruit because they don't 1123 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 3: have the budgets and connect using the internet like lower 1124 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 3: level athletes with D three schools D two. 1125 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 2: That was the concept. 1126 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 4: You spent two thousand development the software, but it didn't happen. 1127 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 2: No, it was one of the ideas. 1128 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. At that point I was working at a little 1129 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 3: software and I paid a couple of the engineers on 1130 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 3: the side to build it. 1131 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: Well, when you graduated college, you worked at an IT 1132 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: market research firm making a hundred k a year, and 1133 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: you went happy right out of college. 1134 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 3: When I would graduate college, the economy was booming. 1135 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 4: I was happy with that. 1136 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't like the job. So I when I 1137 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 3: got that job, the economy booming. Dot com marriage, Yeah, 1138 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 3: it flipped. One day when to work half the people fired. 1139 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 3: I was like, oh this is this is word No. 1140 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 3: I thought one hundred grand was more money than God. 1141 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 3: At that point, I was very happy with the salary. 1142 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 4: So what sales pitch? What would what would you? I mean, 1143 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 4: what was your pitch to? 1144 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 3: Who? 1145 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 4: What have you? 1146 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: Because you a good salesman, because you can you convinced, 1147 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: Like when people come work at barstool, you convinced them 1148 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: that with us in your corner you, I think. 1149 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 3: They trust me. I think my sales pitch is trust. 1150 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 3: Even when I was selling that some you know, you 1151 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 3: have salesmen who give you snake oil salesman vibes and 1152 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:33,760 Speaker 3: you're like, I don't. 1153 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 2: Trust what this guy is. 1154 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 3: I think most people after they meet me, even if 1155 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 3: they don't like me, they're like, I think he's telling 1156 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 3: the truth. 1157 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 2: So what And that goes a long way of selling anything. 1158 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 4: How long do you work at this company? 1159 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 2: Five six years? 1160 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: So you you had a nice little less egg that 1161 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: you're like, I'm done with this, I'm gonna do something else. 1162 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I use that to start barsel. That went 1163 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 3: into the cost of starting barsl target audience. 1164 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: So let me show a quick like when you started barstool, 1165 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: you like, did you have an idea of the type 1166 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: of the audience that you were looking to get. 1167 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 3: The early premise was sports media in Boston was so 1168 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 3: stuck up and actually like rooted against the teams like 1169 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 3: they seem to revel and the failures of the hometown team, right, 1170 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 3: like we have a very famous Red Sox got Dan shaughnessy. 1171 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 3: He rooted against the Red And the thought was, and 1172 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 3: it's a little bit about the Bill Simmons when I 1173 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 3: was like, there's a place for a fan's voice, and 1174 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 3: that's always sort of what we've been. We may not 1175 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 3: be right, we're not trying to like we're not in 1176 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 3: the locker room. We're speaking as fans. I think that 1177 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:39,760 Speaker 3: was the early kind of concept. 1178 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 4: What do you mean by the common man? For the 1179 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 4: common man. 1180 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 2: Exactly that It's like, these are actual fans talking to fans. 1181 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 2: These are normal people. How you talk at a bar. 1182 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 3: To your buddy. 1183 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: Barstool, No matter what, when you think of bar stool 1184 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: and think of you, you always it doesn't matter, right. 1185 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: Alice Cooper is who she is. Uh, p mac is 1186 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: who he is. 1187 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 4: Blessed with the boys, those guys you're you right, that's 1188 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 4: good and bad we do Sometimes they feel like you 1189 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 4: overshadowed them. 1190 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, not only overshadow. I may speak for that. 1191 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 3: Like I like, if I'm speaking my mind, that doesn't 1192 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 3: mean we're a super diverse, weirdo group of people. I 1193 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 3: think sometimes when you come into the office, you're like, holy, 1194 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 3: this is what's here. But if I'm saying something, if 1195 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 3: I'm when I interviewed Donald Trump, that doesn't mean. 1196 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 4: Everybody in the company likes Donald Trump or you're speaking 1197 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 4: for them. 1198 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 2: Yes, and that I wish wasn't the case. That is 1199 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 2: always the case. So, uh, that's just the nature of 1200 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 2: the beast. 1201 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 4: You ran for mayor of Boston, I did, what the hell? 1202 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 3: So we we used to throw these little concerts. Uh, 1203 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 3: and I was very unhappy with the way the city 1204 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 3: was treating us, like they fairly in my mind in 1205 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 3: very anti business, very anti nightlife. 1206 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 2: So it's like, I'm gonna run. 1207 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,359 Speaker 3: And I thought I could win because at the time 1208 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 3: we were pretty big. 1209 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna go. 1210 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 3: Register all these college kids. 1211 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 2: They got to vote for me, because you can legally 1212 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 2: do that. 1213 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 3: They rigged it so I didn't get on the ballot 1214 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 3: in my first introduction, a true rigging like you had 1215 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 3: to basically get I think twelve thousand signatures to be 1216 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 3: on the ballot. They had to be registered voters, and 1217 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 3: you had to be able to read the handwritning. I 1218 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 3: paid a legit like signature company that did this for 1219 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,359 Speaker 3: They went, got twenty thousands of interests. Guess how many 1220 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,760 Speaker 3: they threw out nine thousand, nine thousand. 1221 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 2: Can't read it, can't do it. There's no way. They 1222 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 2: just kept me off the ballot. 1223 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,320 Speaker 4: In hindsight, probably happy, but it was what type of 1224 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 4: mayor would you have been? 1225 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: Pro day portain like whatever whatever was in the best 1226 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: interest in barstool, But you raised forty during a pandemic. 1227 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 4: You raised forty one million dollars from small businesses? What 1228 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 4: made you do it? 1229 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 3: So small business is definitely probably because of barstool, something 1230 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 3: I'm passionate about because I know what goes into it. 1231 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 3: So I actually, who is the guy he did maybe 1232 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 3: did the profit? Kevin Lamanis he's like the. 1233 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:18,240 Speaker 2: Out is he He's a big entrepreneur. 1234 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 4: Okay. 1235 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 3: So I was ranting and raving about the shutdowns, being like, 1236 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 3: you got to let businesses that if they want to 1237 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,839 Speaker 3: stay open, it's up to them. People know the risk 1238 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 3: if someone wants it. 1239 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 2: So I was ranting. He tweeted at me. 1240 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,320 Speaker 3: A big mouth wine do something about it. It's like, 1241 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 3: all right, that's a fair point. So I put five 1242 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 3: hundred grand into a fund and I said, we're going 1243 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 3: to give this out to small businesses. 1244 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 2: Here's what I want to see from you. 1245 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 3: I want to see that you're running a profitable business 1246 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 3: before the COVID, Like the only reason it stopped is 1247 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 3: you have to shut your doors. But you have a 1248 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 3: proven track record, and I want to see you're still 1249 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 3: paying your employees and if you can do that, we 1250 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 3: will pay your bills as best we can till you 1251 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 3: can open again. 1252 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,439 Speaker 2: And the first money we gave away. 1253 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 3: I facetimed the person like we told, submitted, and I'm recording, 1254 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 3: and the reactions are like very emotional, like you're saving 1255 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,800 Speaker 3: our livelihood. People saw that the money started flowing in 1256 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 3: so fast we couldn't get like we're getting millions every day. 1257 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 3: And it probably said about I think five hundred small businesses. 1258 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 3: It's definitely the most meaningful thing we've done. It why 1259 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 3: and unlike the government, like we were we get the 1260 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 3: money in. We talked to somebody the money would be 1261 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 3: in their bank account in twenty four hours. No, we 1262 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 3: get the bills and in some of these small businesses. 1263 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 3: Then they were giving the money back. They're like, we 1264 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,879 Speaker 3: don't need anymore, we want to refund help. 1265 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 2: It was it's a lot. It was not on purpose. 1266 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 2: It was kind of like the spur of the moment thing, 1267 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 2: but it means a lot. 1268 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 4: You ran for mayor would you run for president? I know, I. 1269 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1270 00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 1: The hate that you get from politics nothing nothing. I 1271 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: think I think politics has surpassed religion. Honestly, it's nuts. 1272 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 2: It's like Gladiator won. 1273 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 3: Gladader two is the worst movie I've ever seen it. 1274 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 2: Glader one. When they asked Maximus that are like, you 1275 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 2: gotta be the Emperor Rome. 1276 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 3: He's like, I don't want it, and the guy's like, 1277 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 3: that's why you have to do it. I don't know 1278 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 3: who would. 1279 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 2: Ever willingly do it. 1280 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 4: Do you have when you went into business? Do you 1281 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 4: have any mentors? Yeah? 1282 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 2: Michael Poli is a guy. 1283 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 3: He started viting in water, he started body armor, sold 1284 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 3: in both billions. I've leaned on him for quite a 1285 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 3: bit of advice. He's probably the most. He's probably the 1286 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,959 Speaker 3: most that I've used, and he's been great. 1287 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:38,760 Speaker 4: What's the best advice you received? 1288 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,919 Speaker 3: Everything's so different. I don't know if there's any piece 1289 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,879 Speaker 3: of advice that's really one. It's yeah, yeah, I can't 1290 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 3: think of something. There is no magic trick. There is nothing. 1291 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 3: And what worked for me may not work for you. 1292 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,720 Speaker 3: And it's different time, different place, different people. 1293 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 4: You a foodie, give me your top five fast food restaurants? 1294 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 3: Fast food? 1295 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:04,359 Speaker 4: Yes? 1296 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,439 Speaker 3: What level we going fast? Is McDonald's and five guys 1297 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 3: the same thing. 1298 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 4: I let you pick. I mean, we ain't got to do. 1299 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 3: I mean Wendy's for the burger category is definitely my 1300 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 3: favorite of the burger I like Chick fil A a lot. 1301 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 4: The sandwich, the waffle fries, the lemonade. 1302 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 2: I'll go with the nuggets and the waffle fries. 1303 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:24,399 Speaker 4: Okay. 1304 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:31,240 Speaker 3: Top five. I'm not a big fast food guy anymore 1305 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 3: because I get sick when I eat it. 1306 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 2: I'm too old. 1307 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 1: You going out with the guy? If the guy, if 1308 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 1: you and and five of your friends are going out 1309 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: to eat, where you're. 1310 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,280 Speaker 2: Going nice restaurant? 1311 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 4: Nice hunt? 1312 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I'll hunt around here and be like where's 1313 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 3: where's Yeah? I love eating okay, Like, I don't know 1314 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 3: how all these people, the older people do ozembic Like 1315 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 3: it's like, what are you doing? Like why do you 1316 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 3: care what you look like? 1317 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 2: You know you can't eat? 1318 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 4: This is crazy. 1319 00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 1: You call yourself a pizza yonado. What is it about pizza? 1320 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: Boston got good pizza? Maybe, I'm yes, it does, it 1321 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 1: does well. It could normally hear about New York and Chicago. 1322 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna humbly say the number one food critic in 1323 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,359 Speaker 3: the world for pizza. But I can influence pizza more 1324 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 3: than him, but it can influence anything else. And it's 1325 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 3: started as a bit with me and Dan from uh 1326 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 3: Part my take. We said, if you could eat one 1327 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 3: food the rest of your life, what would it be, 1328 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 3: he said, burritos. 1329 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 2: I said pizza. 1330 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 3: We did it for a month, just ate it. People 1331 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 3: started asking, hey, is it ain't good? I'm eating the pizza. 1332 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 3: I just score it, and it just it caught on. 1333 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 3: So for ten years straight, every Monday through Friday, I 1334 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:33,839 Speaker 3: tried a new place. 1335 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 1: The pizza doesn't have to be like a famous chain 1336 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: or you go into some of these off beats. 1337 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 4: I've done them all. 1338 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 3: I like in New York, I just spiled around the 1339 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 3: office here like I've already done five pizza reviews. 1340 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,440 Speaker 2: Everywhere I go, I'm finding the pizza and eating it. 1341 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 2: What's your favorite pizza? 1342 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Pizza Hood You know what? 1343 00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 3: I now that could be a race thing because who 1344 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 3: and Gilly you also had like a ridiculous They're like thrombnu. 1345 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,240 Speaker 3: It's like crazy, have you had good pizza? 1346 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 4: I'm I'm a thin crust guy. I don't want that. 1347 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: I want that stuff crust. I just want thing pizza. 1348 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 1: And I grew up that's what we had. Pizza used 1349 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 1: to have what they call buffet and so for like 1350 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 1: five ninety nine, you could go eat on a Tuesday night, 1351 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: you could eat as much pizza as you wanted, and 1352 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: so they had. You know, I'm simple, you know, cheese, ground, ground, beef, 1353 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 1: and I'm good. That's really the only thing that I 1354 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: really e want on my pizza. And so we would 1355 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: go and I eat like thirteen fourteen slices and I 1356 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 1: was good. 1357 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 3: So that was really I like like Puppa Gino's and 1358 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 3: growing up, I mean it just but we. 1359 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 4: Didn't have like I don't remember, you haven't had it. 1360 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 1: You haven't had good pizza your mind, you should have 1361 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: good pizza. When I grew up, there was I don't. 1362 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 1: I don't remember little Caesars and Dominoes weren't local because. 1363 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 3: Those are all trash, they're all changed. Like you can't 1364 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 3: you're gonna go to a place where the owners in 1365 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 3: there making them they've had it for. 1366 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 2: Forty fifty years. 1367 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 4: But see, I'm see, what do you get on your pizza? 1368 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 3: Well, if I'm off the clock, I'll do Peppersonians. Otherwise 1369 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 3: the cheese, but it doesn't matter. 1370 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. I feel like I'm in a crazy time. 1371 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,439 Speaker 3: Like there's great just like any food, there's great food, 1372 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 3: and like the best burger in the world can't be McDonald's. 1373 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 4: I mean when I go to McDonald a, eat the nuggets. 1374 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 2: But the best chicken in the world isn't that McDonald's. 1375 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 5: Nah? 1376 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 1: You know what, you know, who got some good fried chicken? Publics. 1377 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: I rot with public they. 1378 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 2: I know people talk higher the pubsub. 1379 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 3: That's crazy to me. Now they're not chefs in there 1380 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 3: making you have professor. 1381 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 4: I don't know what. 1382 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with it. 1383 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 2: I mean, there's great, it's just somebody take this guy 1384 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 2: next time. He's New York Life. John's a bleaker or something. 1385 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 4: Nah. 1386 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, if I go out to eat, I'm probably 1387 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: gonna go to a steak place. Okay, So would you 1388 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 1: say a steak at what's What's what? 1389 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, uh uh? 1390 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: I go to State forty eight, I go to a Mascros, 1391 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 1: I go to I'm bevin to Peter Luger, I've made 1392 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 1: a that's teams. 1393 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 3: So if they serve steak at McDonald's, when you say 1394 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 3: that compares to one of those places, No, No, it's. 1395 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 2: The same thing with any food. 1396 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 4: I think your word for it. 1397 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 1: Dave Point, you got anything, you're promoting anything, You got 1398 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 1: any shoes, new shows coming out, you got it? 1399 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 4: You're selling any new t shirts. 1400 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 2: No, we're good where. I appreciate you having me on. 1401 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 4: I appreciate you being How long did we go? 1402 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 2: I always judge that I didn't know. 1403 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 4: You're the two hours? So is that short about average record? 1404 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I judge. 1405 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 4: You know, I was, you know, I was actually I 1406 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 4: was interviewing you potential workplace. 1407 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know with gambling deal. Yeah, all right, 1408 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 2: so I gave something. 1409 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 4: It's definitely you gave Russell and Bird for sure. 1410 00:59:58,640 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 2: Russell and Bird. 1411 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 3: Pierce's not KG. 1412 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 2: I love He's maybe my. 1413 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 3: Favorite Celtic, but. 1414 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 4: Coozy Coozy. 1415 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Hal Pierce, Yeah. 1416 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 3: Pierson, Pearson, Halcheck and you know the two that have 1417 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 3: a chance are Brown and Tatum if they keep winning? 1418 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 2: What how mean championships do you have to get? 1419 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 4: I mean you're probably gonna have to get three. 1420 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean I love Piercy has one and 1421 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 3: I love him he has one different errors. 1422 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: Because like Havlichick has ten and I think he's like 1423 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: a ten time all NBA. 1424 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1425 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 1: Right, so it's gonna be it's it's gonna be very interesting. 1426 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate you, my man. 1427 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 2: You too, Thank you for having me. 1428 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 3: All my life, running all my life sacri. 1429 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 4: One slice got to brow the dice. 1430 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,439 Speaker 1: That's why, all my life, I've been grinding all my life, 1431 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 1: all my life, grinding. 1432 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 3: All my life. Sacrifice ussell, play the price. One slice 1433 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 3: got to brow the dice. 1434 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 4: That's why all my life, I've been grinding all my life. 1435 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 5: M m hm