1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Julie Donaldson. All 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: sites are set on welcoming the Minnesota Vikings to FedEx Field. 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Logan Paulson and Santana Moss joins me to break down 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: the matchups they will be watching for, plus the return 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: of quarterback Kirk Cousins. So let's go into some of 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: the matchups that I know you're going to be looking 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: forward to this week on the field. And I want 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: to start with Kirk Cousins, mainly because he's been six 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: seasons here. It's his first time coming back. We haven't 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: seen him since twenty seventeen. But both of you Kyle 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: passes from him. Yeah, Santana, what are you seeing from 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: him this season? Very productive. One of the things that 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: stands out to me the most is they have the 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: right kind of players around them and the play calling 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: has been exceptionally well. I think one of the things 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: that stands out more than anything that he don't have 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: to get up there and think too much. So he's 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: going out there, he's seeing what he has to do 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: and whether it's pre stopton read or throughout the course 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: of the play, he's finding the open guy. But Kurt 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: has always been that the passer. He just had to 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: get around the right system and he's back to something 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: that he's familiar with. Yeah. Absolutely, it's gat to see 24 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: him back comfortable because like we you know, we care 25 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: about kirkham do well, but obviously not this weekend. I 26 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: will say the thing that sticks out to me, he's 27 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: been much better in the fourth quarter. He's been much 28 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: more consistent in terms of making plays when the team 29 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: needs to make those high levelge situations. He started slow 30 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: the past couple of games, but finished very, very strong 31 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: and let his team to victories. And I think that's 32 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: shows a nice maturity by him over the last couple years. 33 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: And for the most part, he's been taking care of 34 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: the ball. He has eleven touchdowns, five interceptions, three of 35 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: them though game against the Philadelphia Eagles alone, and so 36 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: for the most part, he hasn't been giving you major opportunities. People. 37 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,639 Speaker 1: We know the defensive line is going to be getting 38 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: all over him in this one, and he's familiar with 39 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: those guys up there as well. Now, one of his 40 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: top white receivers is Justin Jefferson. How is he going 41 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: to do against the secondary logan? I mean, I think 42 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, to my eye, is one of the most 43 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: kind of skillful receivers in the NFL. He's very, very 44 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: talented at the catchpoints as he plays bigger than he's 45 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: listed out of the he's six one, one one hundred ninety pounds. 46 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: He plays bigger than that great physicality, can line up inside, 47 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: line up outside. So it's going to be a team 48 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: effort in terms of aggregating resources to stop him. And 49 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: I think in those band demand situations and think you 50 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: got to put our best cover corner on him. And 51 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: I think that's Benjamin Saint us. You don't want to 52 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: do that too too much because that's a tough matchup, 53 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: but that's what I would I think you have to do. Yeah, 54 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things that's down to 55 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: me is that he's not only just one of those 56 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: guys that you have to worry about on the outside. 57 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: He's dominant in the inside. So I'm glad that we 58 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: have that kind of you know, we have that player 59 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: that we can probably match up or see him, you know, 60 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: have that kind of coverage. But you can't let him 61 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: get get get you know, getting wild on us, because 62 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: I've seen him take advantage of teams. One of the 63 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: things I want to say on the last thing you 64 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: asked me about, we have to take a page out 65 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: of Philadelphia's But they was they played him better than anybody, 66 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: and it wasn't because they played great coverage on him. 67 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: It was because those great rush great rush. Yeah. Well, 68 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look, if the quarterback doesn't have any time 69 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: to be able to throw the ball, didn't forget it. 70 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: Jefferson can't do too much on that side. On the 71 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: other side of Taylor heineke Um, he's gonna be go 72 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: ingup with for It's a really stout defensive front as well. Logan, Yeah, 73 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: I think that. You know, Zarius Smith is one of 74 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: the best defensive ends in the NFL. I think he's 75 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: tied for the league lead in sacks right now. And 76 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: it's not like he's running from from the defense end. 77 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: He lines up at nose guard. He lights up a 78 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: three technique. They find ways to put him in advantageous 79 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: situations to rush the passer, and he has been excellent that. 80 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: That's where he was most productive in Green Bay. When 81 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: he was in Baltimore, same thing. They're starting to adopt 82 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: that package and he has been performing up the top 83 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: building which has been which is fun to see as 84 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: a fan of football, but as a Washington fan makes 85 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: it a little nervous. Yeah, Bike's defense is tied with 86 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: us in sacks. I believe we have twenty one. They 87 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: have twenty one, and they have thirteen takeaways, which is 88 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: ninth in the league. So when you see that coming 89 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: from a defense, heinik. He has to be very efficient. 90 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: He has to make sure that he's doing some of 91 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: the things we've seen in the past a few weeks. 92 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: He's been efficient with the ball, but he's also been 93 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: making a right decision. So if it's not there, take 94 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: what you can with your legs. When it's there, get 95 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: the guy to the ball in the timely fashion and 96 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: he should be okay. Yeah, they love that he's not 97 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: afraid to step in the pocket to make the play, 98 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: but hopefully smartly as well. That's such a thing. Yeah, 99 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: probably not smartly. Washington's wide receivers have consistently delivered throughout 100 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: the Commander's three game one streak. London Fletcher chat with 101 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel to discuss the Commander's offense and the versatility 102 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: he brings. Curtis after the one and fourth start We're 103 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: coming here riding a three game winning streak. How are 104 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: you guys able to get things turned around this season? 105 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: We're a tough team. I mean, we understand that we 106 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: was out there making plays, but it just wasn't enough. 107 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: You know. I felt like the problem was we just 108 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: wasn't putting together four quarters of football. Um. I know 109 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: this past week, you know, I feel like we slacked 110 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: off a little bit, but we picked it up at 111 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: the end. And you know, most important is finishing one 112 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: guy who didn't slacked off and who hasn't been slacking 113 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: off as you You know, over the three out of 114 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: last four games, you've had at least five catch at 115 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: five touches over sixty yards from scrimmage. You lead us 116 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: and receptions, made a couple of huge catches on fourth 117 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: down and that ball game against the Coats? What has 118 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: been the key for you being able to you know, 119 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: operate in space the way you've operated and have the 120 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: ball in your hands so much really just understanding the 121 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: like the receiver position. You just never understand when the 122 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: ball is coming to you, you know what I mean, 123 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: so much stuff gotta go on for to get the ball, 124 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, so my mindset each and every time. It's 125 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: just like, just be prepared, be ready. You know what 126 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Garth them when your matchup, whenever the ball 127 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: come your way, just makes something happen because you know 128 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: how many times you can get the ball right. There's 129 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: been a change at the quarterback position, you know, going 130 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: to Taylor Heineke. Over the last two ball games, offense 131 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned has had some transition with Taylor under center. 132 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: What has the what has been the change with with 133 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Taylor being an under center? Um? I mean as far 134 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: as us as a serious we know we got got 135 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: them make plays. You know, as long as we're doing 136 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: what we gotta do, getting open, catching the ball and 137 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: making a big plays, we feel like the offense gonna 138 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: do a good job. Um. You know, I really think 139 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: us as an offense, I feel like we were all 140 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: just playing better. You know, Taylor able to you know, 141 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: get out the podcat and make extra things happen, and um, 142 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like we're doing a great job 143 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: as you as you look at the situation with the 144 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: receivers you got Terry McLaurin, Terry went home, had a 145 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: big game. How has Dad playing with Terry kind of 146 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: opened things up for you in this offense. Um, we 147 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: know Terry on garthm and make make things happen. You know, 148 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: he don't think two back to back to two great games, 149 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: you know, doing doing what he does. You know, every 150 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: time the ball is in the era, every time you 151 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: got a chance, he gonna make something big happen. You know. Um, 152 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: teams may start, you know, try to double you know 153 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But that's the good thing about our room. 154 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: Were so deep. We got a lot of guys you 155 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: know that could come in and make big things happen. 156 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: We got a little bit injuries, but I feel like 157 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: every guy that steps in is gonna make something happen 158 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: out there. We got the six to one minutes. So 159 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: the Vikings coming in here gonna be a tall task. 160 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna be the key when 161 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: we're going against this this Vikings defense? Toughness, It's just 162 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: starting up front. You know, we gotta dominate the line 163 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: of scrimmish. You know, we gotta protect our protect our 164 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: quarterback and just make things happening. Just try to put 165 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: together four quarters of good football, you know, and no 166 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: slacking off, staying on the field, converting third downs, and 167 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: I feel like that will help us. Hey last, but 168 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: not at least. We haven't seen you dancing a while, man, 169 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: can't we expect to see you dancing this U this Sunday. 170 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: I gotta get in that end. I got, I got 171 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: some moves, man, I just waited to get that end. 172 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: That's that's what my point is. Hopefully we'll get you 173 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: in the end on this uh this Sunday and say 174 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: you out there doing your dance more. Absolutely appreciate it. 175 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: All right. For all of your news and analysis, be 176 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: sure to tune into Command Center weeknights if five thirty 177 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: and ten pm on NBC Sports Washington. You can also 178 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: stream on YouTube and commanders dot com