WEBVTT - Turning Red with Rekha Shankar 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:03.920 On the Bell Cast, the questions asked if movies have 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.960 women inum, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:13.080 or do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef invest start 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:18.920 changing it with the bec Del Cast. Jamie, Caitlyn, what's up? 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:25.880 I'm going through puberty. Who aren't you like thirty six? Yeah, 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:28.840 it didn't happen until now. Sorry, I didn't mean to 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:33.520 shame you. Yeah, rude, okay, Um, but there's another thing. 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:38.279 There's another player. Okay. When I go through puberty, I 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:42.080 turned into a cat. Oh yeah, well that sounds fun. 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:44.560 I love that. That's her friends Reactually they're like, yeah, 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:48.599 that's awesome. Well could you do it more? Actually, because 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.720 I think it's awesome. Yeah, and you can take pictures 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.320 with me, but you also you have to pay me. Okay, okay, 0:00:54.360 --> 0:01:01.280 girl boss cat access. I think that was a solid 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:07.920 intro to end. No notes, won't take it a second time? Agree? Agree? Yeah, 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:11.440 So welcome to the Bechtel Cast. My name is Caitlin Dronte, 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.119 my name's Jamie Loftus, and this is our podcast where 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.720 we look at movies from an intersectional feminist lens and 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.400 uh and have a little fun and goof around and 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.440 you know, turn into the animal of your choice, and 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.400 it's metaphorical and if you get it, you get it, 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:31.520 and if you don't whatever, whatever I do. Okay, my 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:33.920 brain is in five places today. We're going to get 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.240 around to talk about the Bechtel test in just a second. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.920 But I do think, Caitlin, that we should reiterate that 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:44.000 you noticed a correlation between turning red and despicable me. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.920 That I do feel like is worth repeating at some 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.160 point in the episode, and I think I'll do it 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.240 during the recast. I should have said that off Mike, 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:56.040 but it's really it's important to be that because we 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.120 mentioned it. But there's a paywall, and I really feel 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.240 like this should be publicly accessible in for me ship 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.480 I agree, So there's a there's an opportune moment in 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.480 the recap that I will bring it up. I trust 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:10.080 you have rest assured. So anyways, Uh, we use the 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:14.520 Bechtel test as a jumping off point for discussion. But 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.480 but what is the Bechdel test? Kalin drawte. It is 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.520 a media metric created by Quirk cartoonists Alas and Bechtel, 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:25.239 sometimes called the Bechdel Wallace Test. There are many versions 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.560 of it. The one that we use is this, two 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:33.640 characters of a marginalized gender must have names, they must 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.359 speak to each other, and their conversation has to be 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:40.600 about something other than a man. And ideally it's two 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:45.760 lines or more of dialogue and a narratively meaningful conversation. 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:51.920 So it can't just be like, hows the weather? It's 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:56.400 good to shut up and that does pass, but it's 0:02:56.400 --> 0:03:00.480 not important unless the movie is about whether you know 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:05.440 weather denial? Um, okay, well, not really an issue for 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:09.160 this movie, so we'll we'll circle back to that a 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.440 while from now. But today we're covering I think it's 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.079 been a little while since we've covered a recent release, 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.119 but a pretty new movie was released on i think 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.640 Disney Plus exclusively a couple of months ago, called Turning Red. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.840 And we have an incredible guest with us today. We 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:28.880 sure do, so let's get her in here. She's a 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:37.000 writer for Grand Crew and Animaniacs. It's Raca Shankar. Hello, Yeah, 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:41.400 what's up? Hey, not freaking not freaking much? How about you, guys. 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:46.440 We're good, just hanging out. That's beautiful, it feels good, 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:51.120 feels right, hang out watching Pisar. It does feel good? 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.440 I kind of. I hadn't watched a new Pixar movie 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.800 in a bit. What was what a recent one I missed? 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.040 I still haven't seen Soul. I haven't seen Sol either. Yeah, 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.080 I saw Soul. Did you like it? I liked it? 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.080 I didn't love it. I liked it. Did it pass 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:10.760 the test? Oh gosh? I honestly never remember to even 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.680 pay attention. And that applies to movies that I am 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:19.360 watching for this podcast. I simply don't even pay attention anymore. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:23.240 Whoop um. Look, sometimes you just gotta watch movies for fun, 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.360 and that's what we do whenever we're not getting ready 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.400 for the show. This movie, though I made, This movie 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.160 was Taylor made to be talked about on our show. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.919 So I'm very very excited. And Sonny is chomping on 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.920 my recording table. So let's that's because he heard that 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.359 this movie was made for the backdel test, and he's like, oh, 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.800 I will say yeah for listeners. My dog's son. He 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.919 is over today and he really finds a subject matter 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:55.000 to quote him fucking nasty. So you might hear some 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.279 you know, some objections in the background. Please disregard them. 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.039 We're having him de ratipply. This is just taking longer 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:05.920 than expected. Classic Bad Dog, Sonny My horrible in Cell 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:13.719 Dog Rica. What's your history with this three month old movie? Yes? So, 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.200 um when it came out, I think it only seemed 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.320 like promotional arts, so I really didn't know what it 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:23.880 was about. But a friend of mine is Chinese American 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.160 and I am Indian American, and she was like, great, good, 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.080 You're got to see this movie. I was like why, 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.320 and she's like, I think it is tailor made for you. 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:32.039 So I went to her house and we watched. I 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:33.719 was like, oh, yeah, this is Taylor made for me. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.320 I was fucking obsessed with boy bands as a kid. 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:41.400 I'm like, yeah, it was a great, great movie for me. 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.680 So that's my three month ish history where I didn't 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.279 know what it was, but then quickly afterwards I learned 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:55.160 what it was, and then I watched it it was 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.880 something else. Um. My history with this movie is the 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:05.720 I had seen this director's short film and really liked 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.160 it before Incredibles two. Um, she made the one of 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.799 the Pixar shorts about which I guess one an Oscar, 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.400 which is like awesome, But I remember really liking that 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.880 didn't realize that she was like writing and directing a feature. 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:22.680 And then I went to my cousin's wedding a month 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.280 and a half ago, and part of my um maid 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:30.000 of honor duties was to babysit the best man's nine 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.120 year old daughter for a couple of nights. And so 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.440 I actually have seen this movie three or four times 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:41.680 um because it was like she loved it. She was 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.200 horrified by the fact that I was alive in two 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.080 thousand and two and like knew what they were talking about. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.200 Like it was so I had seen this movie with 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.840 the target audience and then also feel like we are 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:57.080 the target audience, which is awesome, and I was pretty 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.760 close to that. I was a little older in two 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.359 and two, but not far off. We were all there 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.599 like the it's yeah. So anyways, I've seen this movie 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.520 a couple of times now and it was fun to 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:13.240 like watch with the podcast in mind as well. So 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:17.040 I'm a fan, Caitlyn, What's your History? I saw it 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.320 a few days after it was released on Disney Plus. 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.000 There was quite a bit of hype about it, and 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:23.960 a lot of people were saying, this is the best 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.320 Pixar movie in ten years, and so I was really 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.720 excited to see it. I also love red pandas they're 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.760 my favorite wild animal. Cats are my favorite domestic animal. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:39.119 But any video with a red panda, I'll just it 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:43.160 is the best movie I've ever seen. Um, So I 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.240 was excited to see it. I liked it a lot. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:49.520 I humbly disagree with it being the best Pixar in 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:54.760 ten years, because what about cocaine. That's cars three? No, yeah, 0:07:55.200 --> 0:08:02.560 Caitlin's closet cars three fan. She really once said, eat ship, Wally, 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.960 call me back with your cars three. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.360 You might not be able to see Caitlin's room, but 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.240 it's sort of decked out in cars stuff. Yea. She 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.960 has a Lightning mc queen bed, which is which is 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.000 kind of disgusting, to be honest, but they make them 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.200 for queen size mattresses. That's kind of awesome. Yeah, I 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:27.240 had a custom made Oh my god, that's awesome. And 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.280 the bed part is not where you'd think. That's what's 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:34.000 kind of surprising. Yeah, it is like it's technically a bed, 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:38.800 but it's also very much a sex toy. Well, can't 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:44.960 believe you're blowing up my spot on um anyway, So 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:48.320 I I liked it a lot, but that's annoying that 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.160 it's like, oh, it has to be the best Pixar. 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.840 It's a it's a good Pixar, it's a great par 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.559 Just yeah. So I watched it with our mutual friend 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:03.000 Bryant Jamie and we had a nice time. And that's 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.920 my history with it. Amazing. Um. Yeah, I guess that 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.160 there's really not much work, but there I guess to 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:13.200 like before we start discussing like the plot of the movie. 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.200 I think the first I heard of this movie, I 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:19.240 maybe just like missed when it was like announced as 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:23.280 coming out, But the first time I heard about it 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.400 was when people were already like mad, They're like, why 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.280 is there a movie about periods? I feel freaking sick 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.840 right now. Like there was very much like a like 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.800 I mean, and it would it was not you know, 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.240 it was from the sources you would expect, but there 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:41.120 was like some columnists that more conservative papers that were 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.600 like why is this? Like you know, it was like 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:48.320 yet another like Disney has gone woke kind of vibe, 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.680 which did to be fair, I was like, oh, I 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.480 didn't know it was about puberty. I thought it was 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:57.720 just about pandas because that is kind of like. Originally 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.600 I was like, Oh, this seems cool and I really 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.560 like the or this director made, but there are so 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:05.040 many Disney movies about turning into a random animal that 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.800 I'm like, do I need to watch this? Yeah? I 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.680 also thought it was just about turning into an animal. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:11.600 I thought it was like, oh, she has like a tick, 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:15.280 like anytime she's mad, she'll turn into this pandas so 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.840 the whole thing is like her releasing her anger or something. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.080 I had no clue is about periods, right, And I 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.400 was like, Okay, this is actually like the first spin 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.440 on this in a long time that I'm like, oh, 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.320 this is really cool, and I'm like totally in. I 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.719 just remember feeling so Brave as a Pixar movie, right. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.440 I was just so betrayed when Brave turned into like 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.560 why is my mommy a bear? And I'm like, why 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.120 is your mommy a bear? That's not what I thought 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:42.760 I was going to watch. Speaking of soul, and I'm hoping, 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:47.360 I hope I remember this correctly, but the guy who 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:51.600 ends up in the Afterlife goes back to Earth, but 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.679 then it's either his soul or someone else's soul ends 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.440 up in a cat so someone is a cat most 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:01.679 of the movie. So there's that one too. They just 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.920 love that. I mean it moves merch, I suppose, but 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.800 it's just me. There's a lot of it. Yeah. Anyways, 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:13.120 So anyway, should I do the recap? Yeah? And I 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.040 can feel free to jump in at any point in 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:19.480 the recap. It's a loose cap. I love it. Okay. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:23.840 So it is two thousand two. We meet Maylan Lee, 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:28.720 a thirteen year old girl in Toronto. She goes to school. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.520 We learned that she is very high achieving and smart. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:37.199 We meet her best friends Miriam, Priya and Abby. Her 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:41.280 opening monologue is so cool, Like I was just like, yes, okay, 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.640 in good she's just like talking to camera, which I 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.360 don't think really ever happens again, but I loved it. Yeah, 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.800 there's like voice over sprinkled in and now, but yeah, 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.400 it's a fun opening montage. Whenever I see voice over 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.920 only in like two random places, and like, was this 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.040 a studio note or they're like they're not going to 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.280 understand unless you put in aggressive voice over here. That's like, 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.360 and this is a video of my mom and she's 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.839 standing next to my dad. They are married and they 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.960 are my parents or whatever, and I love them so much, 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:18.400 but it's complicated, Okay, movie starting like yeah, which is 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.840 kind of what's happening, but also it was like it's 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.200 done in a fun enough way. Yeah, I don't mind 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.320 it totally. Yeah, I didn't mind it at all. There's 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:29.560 definitely like more egregious examples of that and other things. Yeah, 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:31.600 I think do you remember that movie, Oh my god, 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:38.479 what was that movie that sucked about Fox News ladies? Oh, bombshell, 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:42.679 bombshell that movie. I think it's like the worst example 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.839 of that that I always think of, where like it 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.319 was so it might have even been like a reshoot 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.640 where there's just two times where Nicole kim and starts 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.480 addressing camera in like a three hour movie, and they're 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.280 really far apart and you're just like, this is really distracting. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:01.040 That's so funny. I don't know, I am ragging bombshallow 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.200 movie nobody remembers five years later, but here I am. 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:11.160 I mean, it's not undeserved anyway. So May's friends have 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.680 a crush on this guy, Devon, who works at a 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:19.040 local convenience store, but May likes the members of this 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:23.600 boy band for Town, as do her friends. As well 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:30.199 and as we. I mean, that's where their song slab funny, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:34.760 I mean could be the best Phineas Eilish right, a 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.920 song of all time Billie Eilish and Phineas My jaw 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.040 dropped the first time I watched the movie with my 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.800 nine year old friend Maya, and then like that who 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.880 wrote the songs? No wonder, I feel like we did 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.840 become friends. There was no one else for me to 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.560 talk to at the wedding, so we became buddies. But 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.360 like the first I was like, wait, billy like and 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.200 it makes so much sense because they're so fucking at 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.400 g and they're legitimately good. I can't stand when like 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:08.480 movie bands don't write a song that I actually love. Yes, 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:12.640 and this one's purpose one is great. I would listen 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:18.040 for fun and I will I have listened for fun um. Okay, 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:19.920 So they love for Town and they all want to 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.400 go to this upcoming concert, but the tickets are very 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:27.000 expensive and it doesn't seem feasible. May goes home after school. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:32.200 Her parents own and operate a temple that honors their ancestors, 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:37.080 particularly their ancestor son Ye, who was a guardian of animals, 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:43.760 especially red pandas May helps her mom, Ming clean and 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.280 give tours of the temple, May works very hard to 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:52.440 impress and honor her family, to the point where there's 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:57.400 some concern from May and her friends that she is 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:02.520 not really her own person. Then one day May start 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:09.520 stoodling some flirty drawings of her I loved this secreence 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:14.760 son and that guy Devon from the convenience store, which 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.120 her mom finds and thinks that something is going on 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:22.600 between them. So Ming goes to the convenience store and 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:28.920 screams at Devon, which obviously absolutely mortifies May. So the 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:34.280 next morning, when May wakes up after some nightmares, she 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:38.720 has turned into a giant red panda. Okay, Kafka vibes. 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.240 That was me feeling like an absolutely genius writing down 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:49.720 Kafka vibes. Wow, Jamie, Yeah, it only took me on 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.920 my fourth watch to be like, oh, cofa vibes. I 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:57.479 forgot that Metamorphosis was also about periods in a big ways. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.640 I think a close read would really like would reveal 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:04.040 all that this about getting your period for the first time. 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:08.240 Is that book series that was popular in like the 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:14.040 late Animal The Animals? Yeah, yeah, that's also the vibe. 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:18.480 They turned into animals if I evil like the York 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.960 the Yerks, they are coming into your ears, but they 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:26.480 couldn't always control when it happens get out of control 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:30.120 and turn into a sexy animal. Yes, and Tobias got 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:36.320 stuck as a hot Bias did get stuck as a 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:40.760 hot Wow. Thank you for outing yourself as someone who 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.240 knows the particulars of animals. I don't. I've never read 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:49.480 an animalph Sorry, Oh, it's never too late to start. Yeah. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.600 I kind of wonder what it would be like to 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.800 read them now, because at the time I felt like 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.280 they were like, very horny coated. But I bet that 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:00.920 they're just horny right interesting, and I didn't enough information 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:09.200 to understand. Well, so good, Okay, So May has turned 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:14.480 into a red panda. She freaks out. Her mom is like, oh, no, 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:18.680 have you gotten your period? And May is like sort 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:23.000 of and we're like, yes, this is the metaphor, and 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.480 May sometimes you're like, what is the metaphor? The metaphor 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.520 has to change. Sometimes it's a few different things. I'm 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.520 always having fun, but sometimes I'm like, I forgot what 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:36.760 the metaphor was, right. So May tries to calm down 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:40.520 and take deep breaths, which turns her back into a human, 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:45.040 although now her hair is bright red. Yeah. She goes 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.720 to school as a human, trying to act calm, knowing 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:52.560 that that should keep the panda at bay. But this kid, Tyler, 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:57.520 is mocking May about the incident at the convenience store, 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.479 and she gets angry and humility aided, which makes her 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.119 start to turn back into the red panda. Tyler is 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:09.320 Tyler triggering, You're just I knew kids like that at 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.320 that age, and do you have any exit? Because I 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.280 was thinking of one specific kid named Jeffrey. Every time 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.280 Tyler was on screen, I was like, oh my god, 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.120 I can't. He used to be like, why is there 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.280 so much hair in your arms? And I was like, 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:27.240 because I'm Italian and and he's like, well, it's gross, 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:29.960 and then he would just want And mine was this 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:33.040 kid named Nick Delawya, So I can't be if you 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:37.679 full name dropped him. Yeah, and he's going to listen, 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:44.119 So anyway, okay, um. She has to stay calm so 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.720 that she doesn't turn into the red panda, but then 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.080 her mom shows up at school. Things spiral out of 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:54.040 control again and May turns back into the red panda 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:59.679 which her mom sees. Then May escapes from school and 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:04.080 through the neighborhood back home where she can hide, and 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:08.600 her mom arrives home. Here's a little thing. A friend 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:11.560 of mine cited this, like the mom showing up at 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.800 school as like an example of like I think she's 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.199 like the meanest Disney or Pixar villain, and I was 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:22.960 I could not believe he's like she mortified her daughter. 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:26.280 I was like, Okay, listen, this might be this might 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.360 be some cultural relativism. My mom didn't show up at 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.560 school with a pad, but she's done plenty of things 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:36.119 that were fucking absolutely mortifying, like calling looking up in 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.639 the directory every Indian family and then calling them like 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.119 I'm Raka's mom, like we should be friends. And that 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:48.320 absolutely killed me and mortified me, I know, And I 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.480 was like, I don't think she's the meanest villain in 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.880 all of Pixar for that. It just feels very like 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:59.520 she's just I don't know, she's just extra. That seems yeah, 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.080 that's the it was harsh I've seen I've seen some 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:06.200 criticism around her character. And then it's also like which 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.960 which will get to is of like her big a 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.880 character that like is like the Tiger mom Trumpe, which 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.400 is on the trup I've ever heard of? Oh interesting, 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:18.679 But but then I also like, whatever, we'll get there 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.760 in a little bit. But also like once I listened 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.360 to I watched a ton of interviews with the director 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.159 because I sort of just like, was like, I really 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.680 like her, and I kept just letting the videos play. 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:32.719 But the director DOMI she it sounds like this story 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:37.160 is like super particular to her specific life, and it's 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.440 like this is what her mom was like, and she's 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.800 not trying to imply that all Chinese Canadian moms are 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:46.640 like this totally, which is so fair. Yes, right, sorry, 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:50.640 I totally interrupted, simply I know that's why we're here. 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:54.760 Not meanest. The meanest Pixar villain would be who Randolph 0:20:55.080 --> 0:21:03.240 from Monsters incorporating maybe climate change wallet true that we 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.600 can't forget. I would say, as a Car's three expert, 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.520 whoever the villain of Cars three is? I It was like, 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.000 I don't, I've never seen I was. I was gonna 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:15.200 say you, if you could name the villain of Cars 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:16.719 three off the top of your head, I'm like, you 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.360 might actually be the number one Cars three experts. Does 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.720 I would not Who is the villain in Cars one? 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:30.959 Fossil fuel? Honestly, I think the cars movies stink. Whoa hate? Okay, 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.920 you're gonna have to trash that here. See people say 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.960 that and then they see Lightning McQueen literally driving around 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:41.000 Disneyland and they lose their minds. Do you not get 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:44.040 thrilled when you see Lightning McQueen driving around? No one's 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:46.159 in the front seat. I have not seen this, so 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.919 I know. Okay, well, let me tell you. He is shirtless, 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:54.680 he is hot. It looks incredible, better than in the 0:21:54.880 --> 0:22:00.960 animation Ripped. It is kind of like to like wax 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.479 poetic at this, but you're sort of like, this is 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:07.119 the coolest thing I've ever seen. And then sometimes help 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.280 park and you can take a picture with him, and 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:13.080 you can take a couple if it's not busy. Look, okay, 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:15.520 the movies. I don't couldn't tell you a single thing 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:19.359 that happens in the movies besides tractor tipping, which is hilarious. 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:25.800 Are those cows? Yeah, that's that's cars, cows, cars, cows, tractors. 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:34.399 That's interesting. Oh okay, so May's mom ming arrives home 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:38.680 and explains to May that this is happening, that she's 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:43.200 turning into a red panda because long ago, their ancestor 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:47.240 son Ye had asked the gods to turn her into 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.080 a red panda to be able to protect her family. 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:54.560 So she developed this ability to harness her emotions and 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:59.159 transform into a red panda, which she passed on to 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:02.960 her daughters, who passed it onto their daughters. But after 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:08.000 many generations, when the family decided to move to a 0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:12.160 new place and you know they're living in this modern society, 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:17.040 this blessing became more of an inconvenience. But the good 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:21.000 news is there is a cure where on the next 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:24.679 Red Moon they can perform a ritual that will seal 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:29.919 May's red panda away. Um. For example, Ming's panda is 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:34.119 sealed in a necklace that she always wears. But the 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:37.080 thing is, this is where a few like plot things 0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:40.040 get confusing for me. There are like and I like, 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:44.040 I'm not trying to be like Mrs Cinemason's here, but 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:47.280 they were like, I don't understand why Ming. It didn't 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.480 occur to Meng that this could have been what was 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:53.680 happening earlier, even though she plays it off like she's like, oh, 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:55.840 I just thought you were too young, but like she's thirteen. 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.040 I agree. I thought she was using that as a 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:02.440 cover first to be like like I thought she wasn't. 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:06.000 It was like not something known. It was like not 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.960 everyone in the family gets I don't know, like or 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:10.520 it was going to be a secret from her mom 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:15.400 really like skip certain people or like something like that. Yeah. Yeah, 0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:17.359 I was just like she would have seen this coming. 0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:20.159 She knows it's going to come. Which also makes me 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:24.280 wonder because it's a possibility that it could happen kind 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:27.359 of at any time. Why she would do something like 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:30.919 show up at her school with pads, which would did 0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:35.040 she knew trigger her daughter into turning into the panda? 0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.800 So yeah, that got a little I'm like, huh for me, 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.840 but it's fine, But you're like, man, it's it's a 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.560 it's a but I do have one more thing. Her 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:48.439 friends are about to show back up and they're like, 0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:50.280 oh my god, you turned into a panda, and I'm like, 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.080