1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody walking to move the sticks? DJ? Bucky 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: back with you, Buck? How you doing, man, Man, I'm good. Uh. 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Free agency frenzy has been bananas. But as you know, 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: like we tend to look at that, but how's it 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: going to impact the draft? And so it'll be fun 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: to have a discussion on all things free agency and 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: what could be now that some of that stuff is settled. Yeah, 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: let's let's look at what's going on right now. I 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: always during free agency like to do this stuff kind 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: of real time and what we're kind of information we're 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: getting and how we're reacting to it. So the latest 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: thing we have right now as we're recording this is 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: that the Browns have been informed they are out on 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. So, uh, they met with Deshaun Watson. Um, 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: I'd love to get your take on taking the meeting 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: and then uh, and then we can get into the 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: response of of Baker Mayfield's after the facts. So first 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: of all, you know, what do you think on them 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: getting involved in the Deshaun Watson sweeps? So it's funny DJ, 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: because I think now we're having a changing tide in 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: terms of how we treat the quarterback. Um before, if 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: we drafted a quarterback and the quarterback was functional and fine, 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: we felt obligated to resign him and he was still 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: going to be the guy. It took a lot for 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: guys to move off the quarterback. The quarterback had to 27 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: really he had to really stink it up to not 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to be the quarterback for maybe a decade. 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Now we're seeing, maybe particularly in the a f C, 30 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: where there are so many good quarterbacks, that guys are 31 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: looking at the quarterback position differently. And because the money 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: has escalated to a point where I mean when Aaron 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: Rodgers getting fifty million dollars the other guys coming in 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: over forty million, that decision that you make on the 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: quarterback is really a significant one because that contract can 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: be an albatross on the team if the quarterback's production 37 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily match his compensation. And so now what you're 38 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: seeing teams are more willing to move off of these quarterbacks. 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: They're not even giving guys the fifth year option, like 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: if you're not up to snuffors and yeah, we appreciate it, 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: but we're gonna lease the car, we're gonna turn the 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: car back, and we're not gonna buy the car, and 43 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: so it's look, it just leads to maybe some bruised 44 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: feelings because you have to have these upfront and omous conversations. 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: But the teams that operate like that, I believe they're 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: going to be better position for long term sustainable success 47 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: than the teams that just kind of fork over the 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: money just because that's what we're conditioned to do. All right. 49 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: There's like turning point moments for me in the league. 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: When you look at certain events or or or games 51 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: that I think you can point to, its kind of 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: like a turning point or maybe it's like the light 53 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: comes on moment. I think we had one of those 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: last year. Buck. I think that playoff game that everybody 55 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: watched between the Buffalo Bills in the Kansas City Chiefs, 56 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: and you saw Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes and you 57 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: know how young those guys are. They're not going anywhere, 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: and you saw the level of quarterback play in that game, 59 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: and especially if you're in the a f C. And 60 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: I imagine that that was the same thing in Cleveland. 61 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: You watched that and said, oh no, we we can't. 62 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: We can't get in that battle, like we we don't 63 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: match up, Like, there's no way we can get in 64 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: that fight with with those quarterbacks. And maybe again, maybe 65 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: you get through one of them, maybe the everything goes 66 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: perfect and you get through one of those guys. Will 67 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: guess what, there's another one waiting for you the next week. 68 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: And if it's not him, then it's gonna be Justin Herbert. 69 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: And now we got Russell Wilson over there, like and 70 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: even even if we can throw in the mac Jones 71 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: because like he has to get some of that conversation 72 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: because he played so well as a rookie. But yeah, 73 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: d J, I think you're right. I think that changed everything. Yeah, 74 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: I think this playoff run, the quarterback play that we 75 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: saw not only the young guys that you talked about 76 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: in the a f C because you talked about Patrick 77 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Josh Allen. We saw Derek Carr makes some plays, 78 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: we said, and saw um Joe Burra kind of ice 79 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: it for his team to go. And then you go 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: and look at the NFC, Matthew Stafford in the clutch 81 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: in two games against the Bucks and then being able 82 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: to do it in the Super Bowl. You now are 83 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: having the realization that hey, man, I need to have 84 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,559 Speaker 1: a guy like It's more than just having a placeholder. 85 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: I need to have an a level dude at the position. 86 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: And if I don't have one, whoever I have, I'm 87 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: always hunting for the next one. I have to have 88 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: a high end quarterback. And I don't know how you 89 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: feel about this, but in scouting DJ, that's what we 90 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: always said when we were scouting not only quarterbacks, but 91 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: everybody is. My job on the road is to find 92 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: somebody to replace the high end guys on our roster. 93 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: I am evaluating the guys on the road based on 94 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: what we have in the building. That's how the grades 95 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: are issued. So as I'm looking at my quarterback and 96 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, he's fine, but this guy out here, coach, 97 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: he's better. Here'd be an upgrade over what we have. 98 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: And I think we're getting back to what i'll call 99 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: the purity of the scouting process. And we're not gonna 100 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: push him up because he's a quarterback where he Nope, 101 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: you are what you are either I wanted or I 102 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: want better. And I think we're seeing that. And I 103 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: think that's also impact and how we're looking at the 104 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: two draft class. I think that's why it's been real 105 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: slow when it comes to the buzz around those guys, 106 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: because guys are like, yeah, they're good, but are they 107 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: good enough to beat Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow. 108 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: If they're not, then what am I doing? And you 109 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: know that's it. And what we've seen is you there's 110 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: no such thing as overpaying for those guys because you 111 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: feel like you need one. You gotta have one to 112 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: just get in. It's like the admission to the party, 113 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: Like you gotta have a ticket that quarterbacks your ticket 114 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: to get into the party. Now, whatever happens when we 115 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: get in there, that that's some of that luck, some 116 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: of that just staying healthy and all those things. But 117 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: you're not getting into the party unless you got one 118 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: of those tickets. And I know you mentioned Mac Jones, 119 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: and I'm hopeful and Mac Jones is gonna be a 120 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: good player and hopefully surround with more pieces. Matt Jones 121 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: went in the playoff game against Josh Allen, and those 122 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: are two different dudes, different things. And so the reason 123 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 1: I mentioned him is because of the regular season success 124 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: and what he had. But you're right, because what we're 125 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: talking about, it's one thing to go ten and seven, 126 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: eleven and six in the regular season. Ultimately, what are 127 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: you like when you get into the tournament because the 128 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: tournament is a different animal. This set of playoffs, and 129 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: I know people tend to romanticize the playoffs and we 130 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: have a recency bias, but this set of playoffs was 131 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: terrific because all these one score games, the quarterback play 132 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: was more scrutinized than ever. And if you do not 133 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: have a guy I mean, I mean we talked about 134 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: a guy, a blue chipper, whatever, the big grade that 135 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: you want to give up, um, seven oh seven, five, 136 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: whatever that is. If your quarterback is not one of those, 137 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: it puts so much pressure on you to have the 138 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: rest of the roster like that. It is just really 139 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: really hard to get away with just a jack at 140 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: the position, just a guy in the position. It's hard. 141 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think that's what we're seeing, and I 142 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: think that's why people are kicking the tires on Deshaun Watson, 143 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: guys and teams that we didn't think would be in 144 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: the mix at all. What what the falcons? The falcons 145 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: are meeting with the Shawn Watson by the way, By 146 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: the way, why while you're while you're talking, Um, I 147 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: guess Kyle Pitt's tweeted out it's it's it's gonna It's 148 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: about to get scary in Atlanta and then did the 149 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: lips sealed uh emoji. He since deleted that. He has 150 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: since deleted that tweet. But this is just kind of 151 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: like the Deshaun Watson real time updates as we're monitoring 152 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: this thing. But you know, we mentioned the Cleveland Browns 153 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: are out, so now you let's talk about them for 154 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: a second. Just in terms of how this relationship goes forward. 155 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: I I totally get why Baker Mayfield would be upset 156 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: and frustrated. And I feel like we said the same 157 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: thing about the the Roger situation when they drafted Love, 158 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: which was look, I don't fault them for drafting Love. 159 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: I would say that the communication probably could have been 160 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: better beforehand, which would have helped maybe keep us from 161 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: all the drama that we've had over the last couple 162 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: of years. And I don't know what the direct communication 163 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: was with Baker. But even if you think Baker is 164 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 1: not a great player, I think we both think he's okay, solid, 165 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: he still is as the incumbent quarterback, you deserve two 166 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: heads up, like, hey, we're gonna go meet with DeShawn Watson. 167 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: Now I don't. It's kind of disputing reports on that. 168 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: I know what DEDI had said that they had kind 169 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: of mentioned generically if there was an opportunity to meet 170 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: to discuss an elite quarterback, they would do it, but 171 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: not specifically. Maybe with this situation. Sounds like the Falcons 172 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: did have that conversation with Matt ryan Um, which is, 173 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, a good way to handle it. So I 174 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: understand why Baker's upset, But I just just just avoid 175 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: social media, man, Like you don't call your friends, call 176 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: your teammates. You can complain, do all that stuff in 177 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: your right well, and you're right, but you're just not 178 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: gonna It's not gonna play well when you go to 179 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: social media with that stuff. No, it's not gonna play 180 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: well now here. Here's what I would say, and I 181 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: believe it's a two way street. One. As an executive 182 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: decision maker, you've gotta be able to have those tough 183 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: conversations with your players, and you have to be able 184 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: to sit Baker down and say Hey, Baker, here, here's 185 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: what's going on. Here's where we are. We're gonna sit 186 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: down and meet with Deshaun Watson and explore the possibility 187 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: of bringing them on. If we do that, we're gonna 188 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: do right by you and we'll give you an opportunity 189 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: to go where you need to go so you can play. However, 190 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: if he doesn't come, look, we still would like you 191 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: to be here. We still would like you to be 192 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback for the long term, and ultimately you 193 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: will determine what we do going forward. And I think 194 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: if if you're the team and you presented like that, 195 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: look and we know it may cost us more money 196 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: because of all of this stuff that we've done and 197 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: how you may perceive this to be our feelings on you, 198 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: and we're willing to pay you know, the costs for that. 199 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: And then I think, if you're Baker, you know there's 200 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: the saying it's funny, um, like when I made the 201 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: transition from scouting to doing media stuff or whatever. There's 202 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: the same by Steve Martin that, um I kind of 203 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: put on my computer and it says, be so good, 204 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: they can't ignore you. And so if I would if 205 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: I was Baker's close friend. If I was his confident confident, 206 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: I would tell him, hey man, you can control this 207 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: by the way that you perform. If you perform at 208 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: such a high level, they will have to pay you 209 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: or someone else will. I said, there are enough examples 210 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: of guys who had to deal with similar stuff. Kirk Cousins, 211 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: that Prescott and the like. What happened looking with Drew 212 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: Brees when they drafted Philip Rivers say like, right, that 213 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: is a great example. And when they drafted Philip Rivers, 214 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: Drew Brees baald out that year Pro Bowl. Now if 215 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't pop his shoulder, who knows what kind of 216 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: hard decision the charges have to make that year he 217 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: goes into free agency and continues to have what we 218 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: would call Hall of Fame career. So Baker Mayfield has 219 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: to be able to kind of get out of his 220 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: feelings because we all have been slighted. And look, you 221 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: have to take that, put it to the side, and 222 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: now with business. But what I think he has to 223 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: understand now going forward, hey man, this business never personal. 224 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: Team to him and him to the team. So he 225 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: still can be a great leader and all that and 226 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: kind of had to me against the world because he's 227 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: gonna be tough, because he's gonna look at Kevin Stevanski 228 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: and the team leaders differently. But he has to put 229 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: the focus on what he can control, that he can 230 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: control his performance. UM. I want to get to this 231 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: next topic here on some of these other guys that signed, 232 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: because I think you can find a little bit of 233 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: a theme here. We've been preaching, um for a long 234 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: time about the way the games played in the NFL. 235 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: Right now, you talk about you know, we talked most 236 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: importantly about passers, then we get to pass rushers, and 237 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: then you know, we talked about having some playmakers. Right well, 238 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: those first two things, the pass rushers. If you've noticed 239 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: this trend, the pass rushers are going signing to play 240 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: with the passers because they know, we know, I'm gonna 241 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: be in a position with an explosive offense. We're gonna 242 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: play with the lead, and then I'm gonna get the rush. 243 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Nothing pass rushers want to do more than rush the passer. 244 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: So and I think teams have realized on the other 245 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: side of that, hey, we've got the quarterback. Now, the 246 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: other side of the ball is now we've got to 247 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: get guys that can win and and and rush the passers. 248 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: So I think of last year we said it when 249 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: the when the Rams traded for von Miller, right um, 250 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: the whole that we did, the whole joke about how 251 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't need to be as good as he once was, 252 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: he just needs to be good once as he ever was. 253 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: And so and he did. He I mean, he took 254 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: his game to another level when they got to the 255 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: end of the season. In the postseason, von Miller took off. 256 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: And if you are the Buffalo Bills, we referenced that 257 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: game against Kansas City Chiefs. They didn't have a closer. 258 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: Josh Allen couldn't do any more than he did. He 259 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: was unbelievable. We'll go down one of the greatest playoff 260 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: performances that probably won't get talked about because they didn't 261 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: win the game. They had what eleven seconds, they couldn't 262 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: close the game. So you go get von Miller and 263 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: the same thing. There a van with seventeen weeks season. 264 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: Hey man, maybe you know a couple of times we 265 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: have a couple of big games, three four games, you 266 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: can you can you can you know, put your foot 267 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: on the gas a little bit. Otherwise I need you. 268 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: I need you on cruise control until we get to 269 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: the postseason and then you can crank that thing up. 270 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: And then I need you to get Patrick Mahomes justin 271 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: Herbert Joe Burrow. I need to get those guys on 272 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: the ground that that that's what that signing was to me. Yeah, 273 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: that sounding is that And I think the designing to 274 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: me signals this. Wherever you have a level quarterback is 275 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: a destination spot. It's almost like vacation like, oh, you know, 276 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Mexico and go here and nope, 277 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: wherever here, Wherever I have an a level quarterback, that 278 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: is now a spot where I can put a vacation home. 279 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: And so in Buffalo, at Kansas City and Cincinnati, um 280 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: the chart wherever one of those guys exists and lives, 281 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: oh yeah, you're going to get it. And a DJ 282 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: now more than ever. It's funny because we talked about 283 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: the money flying off the board or whatever. For as 284 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: long as we have been in the business, it has 285 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: always been quarterback pass freshion. That's how you build your team, 286 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: quarterback pass fresh and then it was offensive tackle. We 287 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: can debate whether the offensive tackle is still one of 288 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: those marquee spots. But without question, just follow the money. 289 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: It was passers, pass rushers, and pass catchers getting paid. 290 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: That is it. The money wasn't really going anywhere else. 291 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: And so I find it even funny because the cornerbacks 292 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: aren't even getting paid, like they haven't kind of crept 293 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: up to that mark. Like we've seen the pass catchers, 294 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: Mike Williams maybe being a one B to Keenan Allen 295 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: over the twenty million dollar mark. I mean, we're seeing 296 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk who hasn't had a one thousand yard season. 297 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: He goes to Jacksonville, and some are like, oh my god, whatever, 298 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: But I'm like, look, man, it's a first of all, 299 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: that dude took a lot of heat. And I would 300 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: say this about Christian Kirk. Number one, he's got good tape. 301 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: When he's gotten opportunities, he can play. He's a good player. 302 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: There was a lot of love for him around the league, 303 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: So that was not that was not this wildly crazy thing. 304 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: He had a lot of people. Now, a lot of 305 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: people say, and I wouldn't have gone to that number, 306 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: but if you're Jacksonville, you got to overpay because these 307 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: guys are gonna go want to go to the better team. 308 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: So if you're not a good team, you gotta pay 309 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: a premium to get me to go there. And the 310 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: other thing is and you've got a chance to know 311 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: him as well. He's unbelievable dude. Man like Jacksons High School, 312 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: those are guys you over pay. Those are the guys 313 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: you overpay for a little bit character. Character is superb. 314 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: Now I will give maybe even more perspective on why 315 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: Christian Kurt and even z Jones going over makes sense 316 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: for Jacksonville. So going all the way back, Doug Peterson 317 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: and I played in Green Bay together under coach Homegran. 318 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: Mike McCoy was on that team too as a practice 319 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: squad quarterback. So there were times where coach hunger because 320 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: we went to a super Bowl. There was that was 321 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: a super Bowl team to had Antonio Freeman. Robert Brooks 322 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: was there, but he was hurt and Andre rozen Himan. 323 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: There wasn't a prototypical number one, and Mike Homegren's mind, 324 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: he said that I don't need an A. I can 325 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: get to a super Bowl with the election of B pluses. Yeah, 326 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: so that that was this thought in Green Bay had happened. 327 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: So then I go to Seattle working for him as 328 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: a scout. Same thing, Darryl Jackson, Bobby Ingram, Joe Jared Vicious. 329 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So Doug Peterson saw that, let's look at 330 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: the receivers that he had when the Eagles won the 331 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Newson Aguilar was alshon Jeffrey Torry Smith. I 332 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: don't think any of those guys stands out to us 333 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: as a top five wide receiver. And so sometimes when 334 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: we talk about the system, there's some coaches in front 335 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: officers that believe, look, the system will help these guys play. 336 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: We just got to get the right system fits to 337 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: allow them togo. Which is why we talked about the 338 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: draft board and boards being different because you grade them 339 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: to the system, not grading them for the outside world. No, 340 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: it's it's so true. Um, I thought you looked at 341 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: some of these other moves. Chandler Jones, he goes to 342 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: the Raiders team up with Max Crosby. Um, that's a 343 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: fascining man. That is a lot of length, and I 344 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: was sitting here looking at this division as of as 345 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: of right now, I don't believe the Broncos even have 346 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: a right tackles that. Bobby Massey, he's a free agent 347 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: Chargers Um Storm Norton had some struggles at right tackle 348 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: last year. The Raiders have Brandon Parkers not very good. Um. 349 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: And then the Kansas City Chiefs, Gosh, who to the Chiefs? 350 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: I don't know the Chiefs right tackle is off the 351 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: top of my head. Um, But it's a bad day 352 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: for right tackles because everybody's got two pass rushers in 353 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: this division, man, so that you can't hide, so the 354 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: arms race. And you know what what I love about 355 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: this right now? I feel like there's there's a renaissance 356 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: when it comes to team building. I think people are 357 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: being very transparent on how they believe teams should be built. 358 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: They're letting us know, I need to have multiple pass rushes. 359 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: I need to have a level quarterback. So in a 360 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: division where we talk about every team in that division 361 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: has a quarterback, and every team in the division has 362 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: multiple pass rushers. Now we can debate like whether Randy 363 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: Gregory is an a but I know Khalil mac and 364 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: Joey Bolsa nightmares. You know, I know Chandler Jones is 365 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: a Max Crosby problem. And then when you think about 366 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Frank Clark, Chris Jones is on the inside. 367 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: They still have to and so Denver is Bradley Chuck 368 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: and Randy Gregory every week in that division, you gotta 369 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: gear up to do it. And so I think everyone 370 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: around the league is gonna look and see, man, we 371 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: better get better. Get a ton of pass rush. We 372 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: have to get multi pass rushers, and you can't have 373 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: enough of them. You can't have enough like like, and 374 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: so I would not be surprised to see some of 375 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: those teams that have added pass rushers to then look 376 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: at the draft and be like, you know what's great, 377 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: we don't have to but it's a luxury item. I 378 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna take one of these guys in the 379 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: first round just to throw into the rotation. To me, 380 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: that is the perfect world when you're able to bring 381 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: a young guy in and you don't need him to 382 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: jump in there, but you're like, hey, if we if 383 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: this guy falls to us and he's sitting right now, left, yeah, 384 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: like hey, David, a job, thank you? Who puts in 385 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: the next and go. So there's so many guys that 386 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: are there, but yeah, you're right, passes and pass rushers, 387 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: that is the thing, all right, We're gonna get to 388 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: a couple more of these signings. We're gonna do that 389 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: right after this. One of the ones I really like, 390 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: Marcus Williams goes to the Baltimore Ravens, And I talked 391 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: about this on TV the other day, But there's certain 392 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: organizations that have their values right. They might have a 393 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: little bit more value in certain positions than others. And 394 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: if you think about the Baltimore Ravens, you can go 395 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: back to going out and bringing in Rod Woodson and 396 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: and he comes in as a safety on that Super 397 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: Bowl team, obviously the Hall of Fame career he had. 398 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: Then you go to Hall of Famer Ed Reid big time, 399 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: big time with arguably the greatest free safety of all time. 400 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: Then you go out and spend money and free agency 401 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: on Eric Weddle, you bring him in um as a 402 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: veteran presence. They had swung on on Earl Thomas now 403 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: didn't work out as well as they would have liked, 404 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: but they still went aggressive, big money deal and free 405 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: agency at the safe position. So it shouldn't be a 406 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: surprise that Marcus Williams, who as you like to say, 407 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: can play on top of the ornament, on top of 408 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: the Christmas tree, and be that that high safety. They 409 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: place more value on that position that other teams in 410 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: a time where we're talking about Kyle Hamilton's and how 411 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: high can you take a safety and you can't know 412 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: the positional value this that or the other for ball 413 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: hawking safeties. The Baltimore Ravens have always placed the premium 414 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: on that. You know, see DJ and that. That's what's 415 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: so funny because to me, I I've always thought that 416 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: safeties are premium position. I think sometimes they get miscast 417 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: in the evaluation because sometimes I don't know if we 418 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: understand exactly what we're looking for. You've been in Baltimore 419 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: and maybe being influenced by your time being around it, 420 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: read you certainly understand what having one of those guys 421 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: can do for your team. He changes the game by 422 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: his ability to take the ball away and there were 423 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: so many things that you can bake into your defense 424 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: when you have a high i Q traffic cup that's 425 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: a playmaker. Baltimore has seen it. They want Super Bowls 426 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: with that kind of player, which is why they covered 427 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: a guy like that, which is why we've seen come 428 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: through the doors of Baltimore. We saw Eric Weddle come 429 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: through there we saw Earl Thomas have an opportunity to 430 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: come through there. We now seeing Marcus Williams come through there. 431 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: They value that position. They covered it at a premium. 432 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: There are other safeties that we can talk about. I 433 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: played regotted le Roy Butler, who was down in the 434 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: box could do a bunch of different things. Pittsburgh had 435 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: Troy Paula Mallo at the same time you had Ed Reid, 436 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: and so there are different ways to kind of skin 437 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: the cat. But the safety has value. I do understand 438 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: what Marcus Williams did it. I am still waiting to 439 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: see how we really value cal Hamilton's because the tricky 440 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: thing about like Hamilton's he has ranged, he has all 441 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: that stuff. But if you are unable to position your 442 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: safety in a spot to make plays, if you take 443 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: them too hot, it then looks like not a wasted 444 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: pick a reach, it looks like a yeah. So it's 445 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: whoever takes him. And whenever you take a safe, you 446 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: better have a plan to get him around the ball 447 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: and in the mix, so his production can kind of 448 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: validate what you what you've given up in draft conversation. 449 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about two jags that left 450 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: so a lot of Jacks that have come in there, 451 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: and we talked about Christian Kirk being one of those. 452 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: But I want to get your take on DJ Shark 453 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: and what he does for the Detroit Lions. And I 454 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: also want to get your take on Miles Jack. What 455 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: you think he has left he goes to the Pittsburgh Steelers. 456 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: They were sort of Miles Jack. Because Miles Jack has 457 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: played the last couple of years, and I would say this, 458 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: two years ago, Miles Jack played at a Pro Bowl 459 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: level for a team that was terrible, and if anybody 460 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: had really watched the Jaguars Miles Jack, Miles Jack would 461 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: have been a Pro Bowl player because his ability to 462 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: play at the second level, hit, running, chase very instinctive 463 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: and a where I would say the less responsibility you 464 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: give him in terms of making calls and doing all 465 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: this stuff on defense, the better he plays in Pittsburgh, 466 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: look out because in Pittsburgh he'll have a chance to 467 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: just run to the ball and flow and hit and 468 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: make plays. I think he would be an asset and 469 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he's at that point where like his 470 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: game is declining. I just think he needed to be 471 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: If this makes sense, I think He's a better player 472 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: when surrounded with better players, Like when you you free 473 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: him from the responsive he feeds off that. I think 474 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh culturally would be a great fit for them, And 475 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: as Pittsburgh is beginning to change Teryl Austin, Brian floor 476 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: is what they're doing on defense, I think he might 477 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: be unlocked and unleashed as a playmaker. D J Charck, 478 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: for me, is a tricky one. Uh. He had a 479 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: thousand years season. He is a former pro bowler, but 480 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: the last few years his production has been down. Some 481 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: of that is just due to bad quarterback play Um 482 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: and then last year he was injured. Vertical playmaker Um 483 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: has some talent. I do not believe he's a true 484 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: number one, but what I like, I would like to 485 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: think is he's a nice compliment on the backside of 486 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: an established player. Now Detroit doesn't have that, so then 487 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: he may be in that elevated role. It'll be I'm 488 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: fat they to see what he and ama Ra st 489 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: Brown are able to do together, and how they play 490 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: off for one another, and what kind of offense they 491 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: can do. He certainly has some talent, but the last 492 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: few years we haven't seen it because of injuries and 493 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: for a quarterback play, he's kind of I won't say 494 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: a boom or bus. I think he has upside. I 495 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: just don't know how he's going to realize that because 496 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: I need to see what they're going to do with 497 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: Jared Golf going forward. I want to kind of wrap 498 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: this podcast up, and it's been fun kind of going 499 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 1: over some of these moves here. Another one, by the way, 500 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: Darius Williams was a good signing by the Jags. I 501 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: like that. It's good sound back home. I like that. 502 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: I like that move. Um, you know, j C. Jackson 503 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: with the Chargers is going to be huge. They did 504 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: a lot on their defense here in free agency. We 505 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: go through all these um, but we just don't have 506 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: the time today. So one of the things I want 507 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: to kind of wrap up with is bring it back 508 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: to the quarterback position. I mean, we've got the basketball 509 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: tournament starting right, We've got the n C Double A Tournament, 510 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: and to just kind of put a bowl on what 511 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about earlier, doesn't it kind of feel like, 512 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe the n I T Tournament for 513 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: teams that don't have elite quarterbacks like you guys, go 514 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: go compete for that little championship, but the real tournament 515 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: like this is these are all the big dogs playing 516 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: that big the big boys DJ. I do wonder this. 517 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: I wonder if Tom Brady looked and was like, you know, 518 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: look at the NFC right now, quarterbacks in the NFC. 519 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, you know, I think I still 520 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: can win this thing. Like I got Matthew Stafford, I 521 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: haven't Aaron Rodgers, but really else that I'm really worried about, Like, 522 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: no gonna get us through your division. I can get 523 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: although I don't know Corn of Kyle Pets. He might 524 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: be playing against the Shawn Watson, but that team is 525 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: so beref to talent, even to Sean coming in there, 526 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that. I mean it was there far away. 527 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: It won't move the needle enough. But I know he's 528 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: looking at the division like I can cruise through the 529 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: division without expending a lot. Well if Watson, if Watson 530 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: goes to New Orleans, that becomes interesting, becomes a problem. Yeah, 531 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: that would be That would be interesting. That becomes a 532 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: problem because that would be interesting because then if I'm them, 533 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: but you know they made a move because they got 534 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: Marcus May. I mean you load up on the defense. 535 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: They got a good defense, they can rush the quarterback. 536 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: They've got a good offensive line. It's a good. That's 537 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: a good. It's a talented roster. Now they just need 538 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback. They just they just need to drop the 539 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: quarterback in. They just need to drop the quarterback in. 540 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: And they have. They've looked. They kind of moved all 541 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: the money away, like, hey, we got enough, We got 542 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: enough to give you exactly what you what if you 543 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: come here? Um by the way, by the way, Kyle 544 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: Pitts and Seawan same agent. Oh and then he since 545 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: he since he deleted the tweet, and then he said, no, no, no, 546 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: that tweet was about Casey Hayward, my boy, Casey Hayward 547 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: signing with Atlanta. You know, you know, you know, I 548 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: don't think that it's about to get else represents Casey Hayward, 549 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: same agency. That's a that's amazing. Yeah, you got excited 550 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: about Casey. Here we I just want to let everyone 551 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: know that was great Casey Heyward. Kind of yeah quick 552 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: like that's amazing. Um, alright, anything you want to add 553 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: before we get out of here. No, this is so fun. 554 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: DJ I do wanted because we've seen you remember when 555 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: like the NFL was not aggressive and we didn't see trades, 556 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: just a couple of days of free agency, and then 557 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: I feel like our generation sitting into a seats have 558 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: been like, yeah, no, no, no, we're not doing it old, 559 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: all our counterparts because all of us ushould talk about 560 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: all this crap and we're staying in those dumpy hotels. 561 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: I don't know little if I ever getting that chair. 562 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: We have some fun what is going on? Because it 563 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: is absolutely bananas, but it's so much fun. I can't 564 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: wait to see how it all plays out. Yeah, no doubt. 565 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for us today. I 566 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: hope you guys have enjoyed it. And we've got another 567 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: pot I believe coming your way tomorrow, so be on 568 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: the lookout for that. We're gonna crank out another one 569 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: for you. So I appreciate you. We'll see you next time. 570 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: Right here, I'll move the sticks, mo