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Speaker 1: this journey together on stuff Mom never told you, and

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Speaker 1: And now for today's episode, so right off the bat,

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Speaker 1: we have to start with a trigger warning. This episode

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Speaker 1: deals with gun violence. Sadly, the topic of mass shootings

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Speaker 1: is timely and it seems like it always is. On Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Here's what she had to say. How how do we

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, not even respond to that. Well. I actually

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Speaker 1: probably unsurprising to you that the perpetrators of mass shootings

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Speaker 1: be done. And smnty listeners, we are right there with them.

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Speaker 1: Please let's work together and figure out how we can

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Speaker 1: be better on this issue. Let us know where you

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Speaker 1: on preventing gun violence, and how we can follow through

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Speaker 1: on David's call to action. Hit us up on Twitter

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