1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Semester two perfect. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: I'm t T and I'm Zachiah and from Spotify Studios. 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: This is Dope Labs. Summer's coming to a close. I 4 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: can't believe it. I feel like this whole year has 5 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: been like, yeah, it. 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: Was January, then I took a nap, and now it's September. 7 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: I just remember we were together and I was like, 8 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: it's so hot. I feel like everything is sticking to 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: everything else. We always complain when it's so hot in summer. 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: But then the other day I was like, falls back, 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: and we started looking for our parkas yes, and already 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: started complaining because there's a little yeah one day where 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: it was a little bit chili and then everybody was like, 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: oh uh uh, I thought chili, we mean below eighty 15 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: degrees with no humidity, and everybody was pissed. Yes, we're 16 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: always complaining. It's like it's too hot. We're complaining when 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: it's too hot, then we complain when it's too cold. 18 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss summer. 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: I'm a miss summer, but you know, I really cannot 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: stand mosquitoes, so that's something I'm not gonna miss. 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: I love you, Summer, but not your friend. 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: The mosquito right, because with summer comes mosquitos and I 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: get bit a lot. 24 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: You do you really struggle with that. 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how long I'm outside, I will have 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: at least eight to ten mosquitoes. That means if I'm 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: outside for two seconds, I'm gonna have eight to ten 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: mosquito bites. If I'm outside for an hour, I'm gonna 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: have at least eight to ten mosquito bikes. 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: I wish there was a cap on that like, and 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: then it will you know, once you stay outside five minutes, 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: you got your maximum mosquito bites, and then you can. 33 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: Just say mosquitos bite me through my clothes. So now 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: the routine is for me, before I put clothes on, 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: I have to spray myself with OFF. I put long 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: pants on, a long shirt on, and then I have 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: to spray the clothes. 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: Oh no. 39 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: And then I have to be wearing a hoodie because 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: I have to be able to pull the drawstrings so 41 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: that I can protect my neck. And then I also 42 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: have to spray off on my hands and tap it 43 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: on my face. Oh no, because these things, these mosquitos, 44 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: they are ruthless. They don't care about me or my 45 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: life or the places that I have to go into 46 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: things that I want to do. 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: They will bite me no matter what. That's why you 48 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: always sit inside when I'm grilling out. 49 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: Yes, or I'll stand right next to the girl where 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: all the smoke is. 51 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: My friend is out here dressing like contagion. Help her somebody, 52 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: it's just awful. Like I'm itchy. I'm scratching my. 53 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: Arm right now because I have a mosquito bite, and 54 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: I have a mosquito bike. I have a mosquito bite 55 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: on my knee that I got this morning from walking 56 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: my dog. 57 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: You always have a tough time with mosquitoes. 58 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: But it's not just me. Joanna Simpkin. You know we 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: had her on episode eleven. Yes I look like they Yes, 60 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: And you know she's all things beauty And she posted 61 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: on her Instagram about these ankle bier mosquitos that are 62 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: in southern California because she just moved to southern California 63 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: and she is not happy. 64 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: And then she also posted. 65 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: A video of her legs and she has at least 66 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: six mosquito bites on each leg. 67 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: So you two shared the same condition. 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: Yes, it's also not even just the bites, right, like 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: they're itchy and they're uncomfortable, and mine. 70 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: Swell up very, very big. 71 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: But it's also like these mosquitoes, they transmit diseases. And 72 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: there was a New York Times article that just came 73 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: out like a month or two ago that was talking 74 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: about how mosquitos are like the apex predator, that like 75 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: none of us, everybody's sleep, no one knows. 76 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: Everybody's out here thinking you're at the top of the 77 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: food chain, right, and we not. The skito's gonna kill 78 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: us all. Stay woke. You know what? This episode, we're 79 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: gonna put the mosquito in the microscope. Let's get into it, 80 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: all right. So we're at the recitation. So what we 81 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: know is. 82 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: Is that mosquitoes are everywhere, Yes, and some people get 83 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: bit more than others, but we don't know why. 84 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: But we also know that mosquitos can transmit diseases. So 85 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: what do we want to know? I guess there are 86 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: a couple of basic questions to start out with. Are 87 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: all mosquitoes created equal? Do they all have to feed 88 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 1: on blood? Right? 89 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: And do they need the blood to live or are 90 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: they just out here snacking on us? 91 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: Is it a power up? Like this is not my 92 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: basic diet. I'm having a steak. 93 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: Today, right, this is the protein powder I needed to 94 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: increase my muscle mass. 95 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: And I guess do all mosquitoes transmit disease? Right? 96 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: Is it specific species? Like different types of mosquitoes? Are 97 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: there different types of mosquitos? They all look the same 98 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: to me. 99 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: Are there any friendly mosquitos that just land and say 100 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: hello and fly away and don't bite. 101 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: That's a good question because I need to figure out 102 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: where they are because I need to move. 103 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: That's where you want to go. 104 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I want to know if the mosquitoes here in 105 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: the DC area are the same as the mosquitoes in California, 106 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 2: same mosquitos in the Midwest, same mosquitos in the South. 107 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: You want to know if there are regional mosquitoes. 108 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if they're the same or different. I feel 109 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: like they should be different because we have different climates. 110 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Can the mosquito traveled that far? 111 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: Can the mosquito last a winter in Minnesota? 112 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: Do they migrate like birds? Hmm? 113 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: Now I've got a lot more questions. Yeah, and we 114 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: can how far can a mosquito fly? 115 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: And then what I want to know is what affects 116 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: the spread of disease by mosquito? Is off enough, is 117 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: deep enough? Are all mosquito blockers made the same? Do 118 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: you remember Avon skin so soft? Yes, people swore by it, 119 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: But was it really a mosquito repellent. 120 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: I don't know. 121 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 122 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: Personally, I don't think Avon had that technology. 123 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: I don't remember ever saying mosquito repellent on it. I 124 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of questions that we need answer. 125 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Let's jump into the dissection. 126 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: So to help us figure out all of these questions 127 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: that we have about mosquitos, we called on doctor Lyric Bartholome. 128 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: I'm a professor at the University of Wisconsin Madison in 129 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: the School of Veterinary Medicine, and I'm a medical entomologist, 130 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: so I study bloodsuckers and the pathogens that they transmit. 131 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: The first thing that we learned from doctor Bartholome is 132 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: that not all mosquitoes feed on blood. 133 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: It's kind of cool to know that there are mosquitoes 134 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: that don't ever blood feed. 135 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: So you remember in Jurassic Park there was this mosquito 136 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: and it bit a dinosaur and then the tree sap 137 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: rolled on top of it and it encapsulated the mosquito, 138 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: and that's how they were able to preserve the mosquito. 139 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: Then take the blood out of the mosquito, and that's 140 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: how they made Jurassic Park. 141 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Right. 142 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: The irony there is that mosquito never ever blood feeds, 143 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: so there's no way they got dinosaur blood. 144 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: That mosquito. 145 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: It's really beautiful to look at, but not one that 146 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 3: even blood feeds. 147 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: They didn't have any scientists consulting on that face. Seems 148 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: like they didn't. 149 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: That's why it's very important for all of these things 150 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: science fiction. You need more scientists. 151 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: So we know that not every species of mosquito feeds 152 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: on blood, and of those that do, only the female 153 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: does the biting, and. 154 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: They need the blood in order to make the mosquito 155 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: egg and every time she lays eggs, she could lay, 156 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: depending on the species, you know, one hundred plus eggs. 157 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: So they have this pretty awesome reproductive potential. 158 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of mosquito power. One mosquito can lay 159 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: one hundred eggs. Can you imagine? 160 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: That's what's happening in my backyard as we speak. I 161 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: feel like they're everywhere. 162 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: So now we know these are only female mosquitos biting us. 163 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: What happened to girl power? But the female mosquitoes can 164 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: be picky about the blood that they feed on. Yeah, 165 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: it's not always human blood that they want. Have you 166 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: seen those videos on Instagram where the guy and the 167 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: girl in the car and basically they're saying a girlfriend 168 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: never knows what she wants to eat, she's a picky eater. 169 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: Yes that there are certain kinds of mosquitoes that are 170 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: really strictly bird feeders or frog feeders. Some even feed 171 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: on mudpuppies or little fish, so they're choosy about what 172 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: they feed on. 173 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: The blood isn't enough. The mosquitoes need more to live. 174 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: They feed on nectar sources and maybe some rotting fruit 175 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: and SAPs and things like that in order to fly 176 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: and walk around. 177 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: And so, I mean, I feel like maybe I'm being 178 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: a little selfish, but I have a really big problem 179 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: with mosquitos. Why me, Why Why are they biting me 180 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: more than they're biting what feels like everybody else. 181 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 3: We know that there are certain things that are universal attractants, 182 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 3: like carbon dioxide. So just the fact that their outdoors 183 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: breathing can be an attractant to a mosquito, warm bodies, 184 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: and sweat. Those are things that are universal attractants. But 185 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: we know too that there are people who are more 186 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: attractive than other people, and that probably I'm guessing, boils 187 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: down to the microbes on your skin in part, and 188 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: the kind of volatiles that they release, and also the 189 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: kinds of foods that you're eating. We know that that 190 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: there's a period of time after you eat a banana, 191 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: for example, that you might be more attractive to certain 192 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: kinds of mosquitoes. 193 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: When I was growing up, they used to say that 194 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: meant you had sweet blood. I believe that because I 195 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: am very nice. 196 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: People are always saying how nice I am to them 197 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: with your blood. You see, this is why mosquitos don't 198 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: bite you. She started yelling at me. I just wanted 199 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: to point that out. No one was yelling. Then, Tzakia, 200 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: here she is. 201 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: But then you always have those like huge mosquito bites. 202 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: When I get a bite, it's just like a little 203 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: bite here there. Why do you have a different reaction? 204 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: My mosquito bites get so big it looks like something 205 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: is trying to come out of my body. 206 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: What was the name of that movie, The Alien? It 207 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: was a grony weaver. 208 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: Yes, when that thing started trying to come out the tummy, 209 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: that's how big my uh tell me, I sound like 210 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: a four year old. When that thing started trying to 211 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: come out of that that person's stomach. M that's what 212 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: my mosquito bites look like there. Use it usually looks 213 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: like I have a lemon under my skin. 214 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: What is causing that? 215 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: Your body is responding to mosquito saliva being introduced into 216 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: your body, So it's really the mosquito spit that your 217 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: body is responding to. 218 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: Now, there's one thing I know, and that's that our 219 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: bodies are smart and TT especially I know you think 220 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: your body is very smart. My body is a genius. 221 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: The T show cells. My T show cells never let 222 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: me down. 223 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: So I guess I'm wondering, can you build up some 224 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: type of response, so like where your body recognizes a 225 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: certain type of mosquito spit and you don't get a 226 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: big swelling lump. 227 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: Doctor Bartholamey says, Yeah, that can definitely happen. 228 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 3: And one of the things that we're seeing in DC 229 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: is is that there's been an invasion of a couple 230 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 3: of different kinds of mosquitoes. There and some mosquitoes that 231 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 3: are really voracious daytime feeders, and they're perhaps newer to 232 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: the area, and that could be one of the reasons 233 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: that you're having that kind of extreme response because your 234 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: body hasn't seen that before. 235 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: So there's hope. Tt it sounds like, you. 236 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: Know, maybe maybe you'll just gotta keep getting bit Oh 237 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: this sounds awful. 238 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: But next summer you're gonna be ready. 239 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: Unless a new species of mosquitos show up. Oh I'm not. 240 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: I'm not optimistic, not about this. 241 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: You gotta change your attitude. Okay, change your shoes. 242 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: Change the shoes, change your life, change life. Yes, mosquitoes 243 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: are biting us and they're annoying and everything like that, 244 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: but they do serve a purpose in the circle lot. 245 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, you're right. You know. One of the main 246 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: things to know is that male mosquitos service pollinators. 247 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: And we also know that there are other animals that 248 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: feed on mosquitoes, so they're a good food source for 249 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: like fish. 250 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: And ducks and things like that. So we learned quite 251 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: a few things about mosquitos. We learned about their feeding patterns. Right, 252 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: that it's only female mosquitos that are biting us, and 253 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: that it could be the microbes on your skin you 254 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: need to change soap, and that I can't even breathe 255 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: outside without attracting them things. Let's take a break and 256 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: when we come back, we're going to talk about how 257 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: mosquitoes transmit disease. So before we get into mosquitoes and 258 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: mosquito born illnesses, let's introduce what we're talking about in 259 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: our next lab. Lab fourteen is all about the art 260 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: of the con We're going to dive into the neurobiology 261 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: being conned. Have you been scammed? Are you out here scamming? 262 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: Do you have a con story that we need to hear? 263 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: Call us, we want to hear it. 264 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: I know y'all are going to be saying all the 265 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: crazy things. 266 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm following them on Instagram. I know some of them 267 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: are out here. Knick absolutely you can reach us at 268 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: two zero two five six seven seven zero two eight. 269 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: Let's get into it. So there's a reason that we 270 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: call the mosquito the apex predator because nearly seven hundred 271 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: million people get mosquito born illnesses each year, and out 272 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: of those seven hundred million, over one million results in death. 273 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: That's a lot of people. Some of the most common 274 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: mosquito born illnesses in the US are malaria, Dingay, and 275 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: West Nile. So we know that mosquitos can transmit disease. 276 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: Organisms that transmit disease are called vectors. 277 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 3: So we call a vector an insect or a tick 278 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: that can actively transmit a pathogen. So I do identify 279 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: as a vector biologist. 280 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 1: So you mentioned malaria is one of the diseases transmitted 281 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: by mosquitos, but there are other diseases too. 282 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's start with arboviruses. So an arbovirus is 283 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: any virus that's transmitted by an arthropod vector. 284 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 3: Somebody decided to call them arboviruses as a kind of 285 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: conjunction of arthropod born viruses, so we just condensed the 286 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 3: word to arboviruses, not thinking about the people who work 287 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: on trees at all. 288 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: The most prominent examples of an arbovirus are dengay, chicken, Gunya, Westnow, 289 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: and Zica. 290 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: We have these arthropod born viruses transmitted by really specific 291 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: types of mosquitoes, and when they get into a person's body, 292 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: tend to make us really really sick. 293 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: So what are some of the symptoms. 294 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: You could get? Something called danngay fever, where you have 295 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: a really debilitating fever, sometimes like deep pain in your eyes, 296 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: terrible headache, sometimes rash across the body. Chicken gunya is 297 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: in a different group, but can equally make you really. 298 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: Really sick. 299 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: There's often a rash associated with getting chicken gunya and 300 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: terrible a arthritis, so pain in the joints that often 301 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: lasts and lingers for months. 302 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: So mosquitoes can't transmit marboviruses, but there are also other 303 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: mosquito born illnesses that aren't linked to viruses, like malaria, 304 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: So there's an important distinction to be made there, right. 305 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: Malaria is not the same as dengay or chicken gunya 306 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: or zica. Malaria is caused by another organism, yeah pathogen 307 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: called Plasmodium falciparum that sounds like something out of Harry 308 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: Potter when Gardia Leo saw. 309 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: We had malaria and we could still have malaria. We 310 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: have mosquitos across the United States that are what we 311 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: would call competent vectors. So if somebody were infected with 312 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: malaria parasites, there are Anopheles mosquitoes around in Wisconsin and 313 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: in DC and in LA that could get infected with 314 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: those parasites and transmit them to other people. 315 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: But is not as much of a threat if we 316 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: don't have people that already have malaria or already have dingay. 317 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: It sounds just like the vaccines. Yes, this is very 318 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: similar to herd immunity, which in this scenario would play 319 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: out as follows. If you lower the pool of people 320 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: who already have malaria or dingay or some other parasite 321 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: transmitted by mosquitoes, then when these mosquitoes that are available 322 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: in those regions go to feed, they don't pick up 323 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: the parasite. And I think doctor Bartholome also said that 324 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: some mosquitoes don't have all the things in them necessary 325 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: to be able to transmit the disease, so even when 326 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: they have a parasite or virus, they aren't able to 327 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: pass it on. 328 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: It's a really important point to make that there are 329 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: thirty six hundred different kinds of mosquito, but in any 330 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: one of the groups of mosquitoes they're in, maybe ten 331 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: percent of them are actually going to be able to 332 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 3: transmit a passogen. 333 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: So we just outlined the scenario for ill trade of purposes, 334 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: but it's way more complex than just one mosquito biting you, 335 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: going to the next person, biting them, and just spreading 336 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: West nalvirus everywhere they go. Right. 337 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: It's a process that takes a lot of time and 338 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: sort of intimate interactions between the virus and all of 339 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 3: the spaces it encounters inside the mosquito. And what we 340 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 3: found is there are a lot of mosquitoes that put 341 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 3: up walls or barriers to pathogens so that they maybe 342 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 3: get in with the blood, but they never get any further. 343 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: And there are just certain types of mosquitoes that are 344 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: more likely to transmit the disease, Like certain species of 345 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: mosquito transmit more parasites than others. 346 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: So we have mosquitoes like eighties agypdi for example, and 347 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 3: eighties albopictus. They really are what we call anthropophilic, so 348 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: they really like to feed on people. And then they're also, 349 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: it turns out physiologically really compatible with pathogens and so 350 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: can transmit a lot of different kinds of viruses. 351 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: So when we take all of this together, there's a 352 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: really important point to take away, and that's that we're 353 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: talking about all of the variables that have to be 354 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: just right in order for you to have the spread 355 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: or transmission of a mosquito born illness. So you need 356 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: first a competent vector, which is a mosquito of a 357 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: certain species. It then has to take up the parasite 358 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: or virus. And then even once it takes up the 359 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: parasite or virus, the life cycle of the parasite or 360 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: virus right to replicate and be a high enough load. 361 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: And then there's the transmission of biting someone and it 362 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: actually transmitting enough parasite or virus to cause that person 363 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: to be sick. 364 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: Right, So, if you're thinking of this like a Venn diagram, 365 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: there's a lot of bubbles that got to overlap in 366 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: order for this thing to hit. 367 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: But where could you go if you didn't want to 368 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: be bitten at all? 369 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: What doctor Bartholomann says is that I would have to 370 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: go to the Arctic farewell, mate, I. 371 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: Think the only part the world where there aren't mosquitoes 372 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: or the extreme poles. So we're all kind of faced 373 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 3: with issues of mosquitos and mosquito born disease wherever we 374 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 3: are on the planet. 375 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: But there is a difference in the types of mosquitoes 376 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: that are around depending on where you are, Like even 377 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: within the US. 378 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: Some mosquitoes are really tropical or subtropical species that cannot 379 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 3: stand like a Wisconsin winter, for example. And then there 380 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: are mosquitoes that can persist even through the polar vortex 381 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: that we experienced this last winter in Wisconsin. 382 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: In the southern States, it's Zeka and chicken gunya that 383 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: are more prevalent. 384 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: In places like Florida, for example, there's a real threat 385 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: because of the mosquitoes that are there that people can 386 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: be infected by things like danngey and zeka. 387 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: And west now is mostly in high plane states, so 388 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: in the Midwest. 389 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: In places where this one type of mosquito thrives, some 390 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: mosquito called Qelex tarsalis, which is a mosquito that lives 391 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 3: in really well in irrigation ditches. So you can imagine 392 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: then that any place that's kind of arid and needs 393 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 3: a lot of water for crops is going to be 394 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: a place where that mosquito will thrive. And it's a 395 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: particularly good vector or transmitter of West Nile virus. 396 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: I think we've hit a lot of really good points 397 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: here right. We've learned so much about just mosquitos in general. 398 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: I did not know that about the female mosquito. 399 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: Me either, and we learned about like how mosquito species 400 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 2: determines a lot of different things, disease transmission, what. 401 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: Kind of blood you're even going to feed on? 402 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: Right, But now I think what's important for us to 403 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: find out is how do we get these mosquitoes to 404 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 2: not bite us? 405 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? How do we keep these transmission rates down? 406 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: Doctor Bartholemey says that the focus right now is on 407 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: what they call vector control, want approaches to use chemicals 408 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: to kill the insect and their larvae. 409 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: Just yesterday, I was out in the field in Milwaukee 410 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 3: with a team of people that work in our in 411 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 3: our center here at UW, and we were trying to 412 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: control the mosquitos the transmit West Nile virus. So we 413 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: were throwing marvasides, so things that kill the mosquito larvae 414 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: down into the into the storm drains. 415 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had to delay our interview a day because 416 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: she was out there beaten the feet, beaten the streets 417 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: with her feet. What is it called beat the foot 418 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: to pavement? It doesn't matter. She was out she was 419 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: on the ground doing some vector control. And another approach, 420 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: which feels a little counterintuitive, is to actually protect the mosquito. 421 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: In this case, you're protecting the mosquito from arboviruses. 422 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: There's some really exciting technology where we can release mosquitoes 423 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: that are infected with a bacterium called well Bakia, and 424 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: when those mosquitoes have that bacteria in their bodies, they're 425 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: more resistant to virus infection. 426 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: The third type of vector control is using crisper, which 427 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: we've mentioned in another episode, and it's a gene editing technology. 428 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: We're talking to about how that could apply to controlling 429 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 3: mosquitos or controlling mosquito born pathogens so that the virus 430 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 3: can't bind with a gut and get through. 431 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: So really the solution is not an ore, it's an 432 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: and yes, we need all of these things going at 433 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: the same time in order for it to really work. 434 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: We really strongly advocate for a kind of what we 435 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 3: call integrated approach, where you would think about using multiple 436 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 3: types of controls so that you're not pushing for ever 437 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: developing resistance in the mosquito or the pathogen that it transmits. 438 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: So that's what scientists are doing to help with controlling 439 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: mosquito born illnesses. But what can we do It's really 440 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: all about buckspray and if you're me a lot of 441 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: extra layers of clothes. 442 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 3: We don't have vaccine preventatives, and so the real way 443 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 3: to intervene is to keep yourself from getting fed on 444 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: by the mosquitos that can transmit the virus. Deet is 445 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: tried and true and proven as a repellent for many 446 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: many differ friend species, and in the testing they usually 447 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: test against, you know, sort of a suite of three 448 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 3: or four different kinds of mosquitoes. 449 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: I always thought that deep and bugspray and stuff like that, 450 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: it was that when the bug lands on you, it's 451 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: just like, oh, this is nasty. But she said it 452 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 2: just can't recognize you as a food source, like it 453 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: confuses them those chemicals. 454 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's a little bit. That's the that's the confusion, right, Oh, okay, 455 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: it's confusing it so it doesn't say this is an 456 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: attractive source that I should maybe try to bite. 457 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: And I know there are a lot of people who 458 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 3: don't like it. You can find a lot of things 459 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: on the internet about deet having adverse sort of side effects. 460 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: I think the important thing is to use the EPA 461 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 3: decision making tree to figure out which type of product 462 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: works best for you. 463 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: Let's end you this text message about the article that 464 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: show that. You know, people say deep is really harmful, 465 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: so you shouldn't use it in high amounts. But me 466 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: and my house we will stick to deep because mosquito 467 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: have what's similar to taste receptors on their feet, so 468 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: when they land, they taste the deep and it's like ugh, 469 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: it's bitter, and they leave and they don't come back, 470 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 1: and they don't. So they not only do they they 471 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: land and leave right whereas other mosquito repellents don't have 472 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: that strong response. The mosquitoes don't have that strong negative response, 473 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: so they will still land, but it just they're not 474 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: as tempted to bite. I don't want you to land. 475 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: Or bite Okay, I don't want you to touch me 476 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: and I don't want you to bite me. 477 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: I want when you land on me. I wanted to 478 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: be like landing on cement. You're saying nothing here, nothing 479 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: to see here, and move along. And one of my 480 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: favorite home remedies. All you entomologies out there, listen up. 481 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: The kids got the cure. No, I'm not standing the care. 482 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying as an everyday person, and you're you know 483 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: you have a backyard or you have a front yard, 484 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: depending on where you live, if there is any standing 485 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: water to get rid of it. Do you have kids 486 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: toys and it's a dump truck and it's got a 487 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: little thing in the back and there's just standing water. 488 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: Get rid of any standing water that you can turn 489 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: those things, turn those chairs upside down. 490 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: And what I just found out because of the stuff 491 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: that doctor bartholow Me was saying, is that it's probably 492 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: my compost bind that I have in the backyard that 493 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 2: is attracting all of those mosquitos because they're getting nectar 494 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: from the rotting fruits and veggies that I put in there. 495 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: You put a lot of fruit in there, I do, 496 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: And so maybe I need to get a different type 497 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: of compost bin, one that's closed that I can use 498 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: like a crank on the side to just rotate. 499 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: It and steal it off. And I feel like I 500 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: just got. 501 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: A mosquito, but you probably did. It's probably mosquitos in 502 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: the house. 503 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: They going to Daisy's bread. Daisy, close your mouth. Well, 504 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: now I know what I need to do. 505 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: One thing that I know is that I'm probably always 506 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: going to be bit by mosquitos. But my reaction to 507 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: them will probably be different every year. 508 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: It's really interesting that the swell that we see and say, oh, 509 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: this is a mosquito bite that's caused by the spit, 510 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: not the action of them biting you. 511 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: So it's like the itching and the swelling and the 512 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: warm feeling. 513 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: That's all a reaction. Do I need to take more? Benejo? 514 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: You got a strong immune system? You said it. Your 515 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: immune system is on overload. But now I'm gonna check 516 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: your bug spray and make sure that it has deep Yeah, 517 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: I definitely don't have deep buckspray. Girl. I think the 518 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: really interesting thing for me was to learn all the 519 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: stuff that scientists are doing and public health officials are 520 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: doing to keep the transmission rates low. I did not 521 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: know people were out here pouring that stuff down into 522 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: the storm drain. 523 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: It's wild, and scientists are really doing a lot of 524 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: important work out there, work that I didn't even know 525 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: what's happening. 526 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: I'm glad it's happening, and it makes sense if we 527 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: know that the mosquitos are laying eggs and standing water 528 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: are an apex predator. You got to get them out 529 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: of here. 530 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: And I think what was most interesting for me was learning, like, 531 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: how many different types. 532 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: Of mosquitos are out there. 533 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 2: I had no idea that there were so many different 534 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 2: types if you would ask me out said, they're probably two. 535 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. 536 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, the ones that have betten me and the ones 537 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: that have not been me. But it's so interesting to 538 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: know that there are some mosquitos out there that really 539 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: mean me no harm. 540 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's hope they won't bite you at all. 541 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: You can come outside, Bubba Girl. 542 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 2: Don't forget to check out our website for a cheat 543 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: sheet on today's episode. You can find it and sign 544 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: up for our newsletter at Dope labspodcast dot com. 545 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: And keep calling us. We love hearing from you. What 546 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: did you think about today's episode? 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You 557 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 2: can learn more about her and the show notes. 558 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: Our producer is Jenny Rattlup. Mass mixing and sound designed 559 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: by Hannes Brown. Special thanks this week to Zoe Sullivan. 560 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: Original theme music by Takea Yasuzawa and Alex Sugi Eurra 561 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: Additional music by Elijah Alex Harvey. Dope Labs is a 562 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: production of Spotify Studios and Mega Owned Media Group, and 563 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: it's executive produced by us T T show Dia. 564 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: And Zakiah Wattley. Narthur pod is an animal that's part 565 00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: of a larger group called arthur Potta and that includes insects, fighters, 566 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: and crustaceans. And this is where I have my problem. 567 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: Why are insects and spiders and crustaceans grouped together? Is 568 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: a lobster a sea roach? 569 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: I think that that we can't say that a lobster 570 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: is a sea roach. 571 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: We can't. You're right. I think a shrimp is a 572 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: sea roach. That has to be the eastern end. Oh 573 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: my gosh.