Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Kruz, a Senator,
Speaker 1: This show is a really important show and it's one
Speaker 1: that I want to say on the front end. I
Speaker 1: hope people will take this and put it on social
Speaker 1: media because it's an important issue that you said, we
Speaker 1: need to dedicate an entire episode two, and that is
Speaker 1: talking about what's going on with Israel and the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party going after them.
Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. We are here at a momentous time.
Speaker 2: The Democrat Party is turning hard against the State of Israel.
Speaker 2: The White House is turning hard against Israel. Joe Biden
Speaker 2: personally is turning hard against Israel. The media is turning
Speaker 2: hard against Israel. We are seeing an historic pivot away
Speaker 2: from our enormous friend and ally in the Middle East,
Speaker 2: the state of Israel. And that is consequential. It is
Speaker 2: consequential for Israel, It is consequential for Hamas, it is
Speaker 2: consequential for Hesbla, it is consequential for Iran, it is
Speaker 2: consequential for the entirety of the Middle East, is consequential
Speaker 2: for the world. And what is striking while the White
Speaker 2: House is actively undermining and abandoning Israel, every Democrat in
Speaker 2: the Senate and the House is sitting silently by and
Speaker 2: allowing that to happen. This is a podcast We're going
Speaker 2: to do a deep dive onto that. But it is
Speaker 2: a very very sad moment, I believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it, and even shocking words coming
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Speaker 1: something that was said at the White House today from
Speaker 1: White House pres saretery Is Jean Pierre, and she said,
Speaker 1: we know how to deal with terrorists now, and we're
Speaker 1: going to tell Israel what they need to do. Here
Speaker 1: is the new idea.
Speaker 3: We believe there has to be alternative ways to deal
Speaker 3: with hamas in Gaza, as we're specifically in Rafa, a
Speaker 3: military operation that we believe is not the way to
Speaker 3: move forward. There is a active conversations happening with the
Speaker 3: Israeli government and obviously our government, and I think that's important.
Speaker 1: Senator, I'm going to take the bait. I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask you the question, how is there an alternative and
Speaker 1: what is an alternative way to deal with actual terrorists
Speaker 1: that say they want to annihilate you and from the
Speaker 1: river to the sea they want you to all be dead.
Speaker 2: Well, let me give you the non alternative way. The
Speaker 2: non alternative way is to kill them, is to eliminate Hamas.
Speaker 2: To kill the terrorists, To kill the people that murder
Speaker 2: twelve hundred israelis to kill the people that murdered over
Speaker 2: thirty Americans, To kill the people that raped little girls
Speaker 2: and raped women, To kill the people that burned babies alive,
Speaker 2: that burn infants to kill the vicious anti Semitic, anti Israel,
Speaker 2: anti America terrorists that pledged to murder as many of
Speaker 2: us as possible. That's the non alternative ways. Now, let
Speaker 2: me just ask you a question, Ben, What the hell
Speaker 2: is she talking about? There's an alternative way to deal
Speaker 2: with Hamas terrists? I don't know. Maybe we sit down
Speaker 2: in a circle with them, we hug them, we put
Speaker 2: little robes on them, we put flowers in our hair,
Speaker 2: we sing Kumba y'ah. Maybe that's the way to do it.
Speaker 2: Like what idiocy is this? These are psychopathic, homicidal, genocidal maniacs.
Speaker 2: And here's the problem. You know what, There's an alternative
Speaker 2: way to do deal with is left wing democrat activists
Speaker 2: that the White House is terrified about. And so what
Speaker 2: are they doing. They're abandoning Israel. Let me say, Israel
Speaker 2: is exactly right. They should eliminate Hamas and every jumos
Speaker 2: terrists they eliminate is saving the lives of Israelis, and
Speaker 2: it's saving the lives of Americans. That is a statement
Speaker 2: I want you to understand. Let's say you're a Democrat
Speaker 2: at home. Look, we don't have a ton of Democrats
Speaker 2: that listen to this podcast. But I actually think we
Speaker 2: have some we try on this podcast. By the way,
Speaker 2: I encourage people all the time when I talk to
Speaker 2: high schools, when I talk to colleges, when I talk
Speaker 2: to people that are non partisan, I say, listen, you
Speaker 2: want to know what's going on in the world. Here's
Speaker 2: part of the problem. The media is all biased, it's
Speaker 2: all partisan, it's all ideological. So if you only listen
Speaker 2: to see an n or MSNBC, you'll only get part
Speaker 2: of the news. And by the way, if you only
Speaker 2: listen to Fox News or Newsmax or write a center media,
Speaker 2: you'll only get part of the news. What I do
Speaker 2: is I try to listen across the spectrum. So what
Speaker 2: I encourage people to do is I tell high school kids,
Speaker 2: in college kids this, I said, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: Take a month listen to every episode of Verdict, and
Speaker 2: then also that same month, listen to every episode of
Speaker 2: some left wing podcasts. I don't care, Pod Save America,
Speaker 2: some you know, I don't know, whatever comedy piece. There
Speaker 2: are enough of them out there. You can pick something
Speaker 2: of them. Yeah, but listen to both sides. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if anyone has ever taken me up on
Speaker 2: that request, but I hope they have. I hope they're
Speaker 2: listening to both sides. So if you're a Democrat listening
Speaker 2: to this, I want you to ask yourself, do you
Speaker 2: think America should stand with Israel? And if we should,
Speaker 2: what do you think is the quote alternative way to
Speaker 2: deal with Hamas terrorists. I don't know of any other
Speaker 2: way other than the way Israel is trying to do,
Speaker 2: which is to eliminate them, to defeat them, to kill them.
Speaker 2: But apparently the Biden White House has something else in mind.
Speaker 1: You see, I've got like seven different questions for you center,
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to ask you all day, so I'm
Speaker 1: just going to go through a couple of them quickly.
Speaker 1: Number one. When I heard this, I was angry, but
Speaker 1: then I said, Okay, what is the alternative? It sounds
Speaker 1: like and this is one way you could take it.
Speaker 1: She's now saying you need to negotiate with terrorists that
Speaker 1: actually have hostages right now, That's what it seems like
Speaker 1: she's saying. And I thought America's foreign policy was we
Speaker 1: don't actually negotiate with terrorists they have Americans, by the way,
Speaker 1: that they're still holding hostage right now as well. So
Speaker 1: then the second question I have for you Center is this,
Speaker 1: how much money are we supposed to give them? Because
Speaker 1: I'm assuming if there's an alternative way to deal with Hamas,
Speaker 1: that means, Okay, we're going to bribe you. Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: You're not entirely wrong, but you don't have anywhere near
Speaker 2: close to the scope of it. Sadly, let me tell
Speaker 2: you what the Biden White House means. The alternative way
Speaker 2: to deal with them is Number one, allow them to live,
Speaker 2: allow them to prosper, allow them to succeed. Do not
Speaker 2: kill the terrorists who murdered Israelis. Do not kill the
Speaker 2: terrorists who murdered Americans, do not kill the terrorists who
Speaker 2: raped little girls and raped women. Do not kill the
Speaker 2: terrorists who murdered infants. But they also it's not just
Speaker 2: don't kill them, give them a state.
Speaker 1: Reward them.
Speaker 2: Remember the White House is trying to say the reward
Speaker 2: for October seven should be a two state solution. The
Speaker 2: two states should be create a Palestinian state. By the way,
Speaker 2: they had a two state solution. Gaza was run by Hamas.
Speaker 2: Israel was not in Gaza. They were in control of it.
Speaker 2: It's a popular talking point on the left. Oh, it
Speaker 2: was an open air concentration site. What utter imbecility. The
Speaker 2: Palestinians ran the Gaza strip, they were in charge of it.
Speaker 2: The Israelis weren't there. They could do it whatever they wanted.
Speaker 2: The reason it was a hell hole is because Hamas
Speaker 2: ran it. And by the way, Hamas ran it because
Speaker 2: when the Palestinians had elections, the Palestinians voted for Hamas.
Speaker 2: So at some level, listen, Hamas has wreaked havoc and
Speaker 2: suffering and misery on the Palestinian people, But at some
Speaker 2: level a majority of them bear responsibility for that because
Speaker 2: when they went to the polls and voted, they said, yeah,
Speaker 2: the psycho terrorists, that's who we want running things. Now,
Speaker 2: here's what Biden is saying. Because you engage in one
Speaker 2: of the worst act of mass murder of Jews, in fact,
Speaker 2: the single worst mass murder of Jews in a day
Speaker 2: since Holocaust, Because you engage in horrific terrorism, because you
Speaker 2: murder over thirty Americans, We're going to reward you and
Speaker 2: expand your territory and give you control and give you
Speaker 2: power and elevate you and treat you as a statesman.
Speaker 2: And by the way, in about a year, they'll give
Speaker 2: you the Nobel Peace Prize as a psychotic terrorist. That's
Speaker 2: what they mean. By a different way is literally, we
Speaker 2: will show every terrorist in the world you want what
Speaker 2: you want, commit horrific acts of mass murder, and get
Speaker 2: the idiots and the press and the pacifistic, appeasing, cheese
Speaker 2: eating surrender monkeys of the Democrat Party to give you
Speaker 2: what you want. And all you need to do is
Speaker 2: murder and rape enough people and they'll give you exactly
Speaker 2: what you want.
Speaker 1: You know, let's go back to when this attack happened,
Speaker 1: because I will give credit in that moment. Joe Biden
Speaker 1: publicly was very clear that we were standing behind Israel,
Speaker 1: but the machine behind Joe Biden very clearly came out.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get ahead of him and say no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we actually don't. We're calling on Israel to not retaliate
Speaker 1: even against their nine to eleven that happened, that the
Speaker 1: most Jews have been massacred since the Holocaust, for goodness sakes,
Speaker 1: and you called out quickly. Remind you we've talked about
Speaker 1: on the show before. But if people may be listening
Speaker 1: the show for the first time because they've seen on
Speaker 1: social media where people have been posting this about Israel.
Speaker 1: I want to remind them in the hours after the attack,
Speaker 1: what our government, the machine behind Biden, was doing.
Speaker 2: Within hours of the attack, on October seventh, while people
Speaker 2: we're still being murdered, while the bodies were still warm,
Speaker 2: the Biden State Department, the Office of Palestinian Affairs, tweeted
Speaker 2: out a tweet that said Israel should not retaliate, do
Speaker 2: not respond with violence, do not respond with warfare. Essentially
Speaker 2: roll over and allow mass murder to happen in your country,
Speaker 2: and do nothing now. At three in the morning that night,
Speaker 2: I called that out, announced it, and within hours they
Speaker 2: retracted the tweet. They deleted it. Then the next day,
Speaker 2: Tony Blincoln, the Secretary of State, did the same thing.
Speaker 2: He said, I just talked with the Turkish foreign Minister
Speaker 2: and we agreed there should be an immediate cease fire.
Speaker 2: The one thing that is critical is Israel should not
Speaker 2: kill any terrorists. He didn't quite say that, but that's
Speaker 2: essentially what he said. I responded again within hours saying
Speaker 2: this is disgraceful, this is shameful, and again the State
Speaker 2: Department deleted the tweet. So understand, in forty eight hours,
Speaker 2: they sent out two anti Israel Prohamas tweets. In forty
Speaker 2: eight hours, I called him both out, and in forty
Speaker 2: eight hours they deleted them both. Early on, when Biden
Speaker 2: would get in the front of a camera and talk,
Speaker 2: his actually talking points were pretty good because listen, Biden
Speaker 2: is from an older generation of Democrats that they actually
Speaker 2: said we should stand with Israel, and Biden is what
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty two years old. He probably still
Speaker 2: thinks he's in the nineteen eighties. He re peeded those
Speaker 2: old talking points. Here's the problem. Biden has filled his
Speaker 2: White House, He's filled his State Department, He's filled his
Speaker 2: administration with rabid leftist anti Israel, anti Semites. They hate Israel,
Speaker 2: they believe Israel is an illegitimate occupying force. They believe
Speaker 2: the Palestinians, they believe the Hamas terrorists are noble freedom fighters,
Speaker 2: and they side with Hamas. I'm not exaggerating. And by
Speaker 2: the way, we've had, among other things, white House interns
Speaker 2: protesting State Department in turns protesting. Let me be clear,
Speaker 2: in any sane White House, listen, if I'd been elected
Speaker 2: president of twenty sixteen, and the White House returns protests
Speaker 2: the day they protested with the day they lost their
Speaker 2: White House badge and they left the White House. The
Speaker 2: idiocy of they've hired these twenty year old radicals who
Speaker 2: hate Israel. They have been taught from their Marxist professors
Speaker 2: Israel is a colonialist oppressor. And I got to say
Speaker 2: Biden's rhetoric from a yester year of the Democrats saying
Speaker 2: we stand with Israel to the young, angry leftist made
Speaker 2: no sense. And let me say to people listening to this,
Speaker 2: if you're a Democrat, if you're a centrist, but you
Speaker 2: do support Israel, ask yourself, is there room left in
Speaker 2: the Democrat Party for theirs views? I don't see a
Speaker 2: whole lot of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, well, And that brings me to what's
Speaker 1: happening now. Clearly, the people around Joe Biden have said
Speaker 1: to him over and over and over and over again
Speaker 1: that he needs to quiet down on his public support
Speaker 1: of Israel. And the White House was asked about that.
Speaker 1: John Kirby was asked about it, and here's how it
Speaker 1: went down. When Peter Deucey asked him at the White
Speaker 1: House Press briefing US one. Then where is President Biden
Speaker 1: on any of this? When he wants to talk about
Speaker 1: how angry he is or frustrated he is about the
Speaker 1: high cost of insulin, he comes out and gives an
Speaker 1: impassioned speech.
Speaker 4: Where does he on any of this?
Speaker 5: He's been talking about this, He's been issuing statements on us. No,
Speaker 5: that's statement. The last I looked was public.
Speaker 6: But where is he?
Speaker 1: Why isn't he here right now?
Speaker 5: I'm sure you'll continue to hear from the President about
Speaker 5: this and many other national securities.
Speaker 1: We gotta wrap up. I love that you heard John
Speaker 1: here in the background. We got to wrap this up.
Speaker 1: We gotta wrap this up right now. Actions speak louder
Speaker 1: than words, right, So if the President has some words
Speaker 1: on a page about Israel, that says something, but he's
Speaker 1: not saying anything publicly. It's very clear now that the
Speaker 1: White House has turned basically a one eighty and the
Speaker 1: UN vote from a week ago was a lot of proof.
Speaker 1: But now the White House is publicly not supporting Israel.
Speaker 2: Listen, the UN vote from a week ago was I
Speaker 2: believe orchestrated by the Biden administration. They want the United
Speaker 2: Nations to condemn Israel. They want the United Nations to
Speaker 2: call for an immediate cease fire. And let's be clear.
Speaker 2: Joe Biden yesterday talked with Benjamin et Ya, who they
Speaker 2: put out a press that they put out a readout
Speaker 2: of the call and they said Biden Deman did an
Speaker 2: immediate ceasefire. Understand, the President of the United States is
Speaker 2: telling Israel stop killing Hamas terrorists. Now that is their position,
Speaker 2: that you cannot kill any more terrorist. Why and listen,
Speaker 2: it's not a national security reason. It's not a reason
Speaker 2: that supports israel security. It's not a reason that sports
Speaker 2: America's security. The reason is domestic politics. The angry left
Speaker 2: wing Democrat Party, the anti Semites, and let's be clear,
Speaker 2: they hate Israel and they hate Jews. And by the way,
Speaker 2: I got to say, there are a lot of Jewish
Speaker 2: Democrats right now in this country who are facing an
Speaker 2: existential crisis because they have been Democrats, many of them
Speaker 2: their entire lives. They vote Democrat. And yet they're seeing
Speaker 2: people in the Democrat Party who despise Israel. And let's
Speaker 2: be clear, who despised Jews. Listen. In the Marxist worldview,
Speaker 2: as you know, in my book Unwoke, How to Defeat
Speaker 2: Cultural Marxism in America, I described the cultural Marxist view
Speaker 2: the world into oppressors and victims, and the leftists, the
Speaker 2: leftists at universities, the anti Semits at universities, they define Jews,
Speaker 2: not Israelis Jews. If you are Jewish in America, if
Speaker 2: you are Jewish in Israel, if you're Jewish anywhere in
Speaker 2: the world, the Marxists define you as an oppressor. You
Speaker 2: are white, you are a capitalist, you are wealthy, you
Speaker 2: are an oppressor. That is their worldview. And by the way,
Speaker 2: if you're not, they think you probably want to be,
Speaker 2: so you're an oppressor too. And they define Palestinians, all Palestinians,
Speaker 2: and especially Hamas terrorists, as victims. And the cultural Marxist
Speaker 2: support the violent, aggressive revolution of the so called victims
Speaker 2: against the so called oppressors. And so the leftists and
Speaker 2: the Marxists are celebrating when Hamas murders Israelis, when Hamas
Speaker 2: murders Americans, the leftists and the Democrat Party are celebrating.
Speaker 2: And this is what Joe Biden, this is what Chuck Schumer,
Speaker 2: and sadly, this is what every Democrat and House member
Speaker 2: on the Democrat side in the Senate and House are supporting.
Speaker 2: And let me ask you this, so Ben, you're you're
Speaker 2: a very sophisticated political observer. Have you seen a single Democrat,
Speaker 2: a single Democrat member of the House, single Democrat member
Speaker 2: of the Senate, call out and denounce Joe Biden this
Speaker 2: White House for undermining Israel, for supporting Hamas and for
Speaker 2: demanding that Israel stop killing Hamas terrorists.
Speaker 1: No, and not only that, to put it in perspective,
Speaker 1: with a passing of Joe, have.
Speaker 2: You've seen a reporter ask a Democrat that hold on, Yeah,
Speaker 2: The answer is no, I haven't seen it either. Have
Speaker 2: you seen one Democrat ask I'm sorry, one reporter ask
Speaker 2: a Democrat that I haven't. I literally have not seen
Speaker 2: a single Democrat senator, a single Democrat House member asked
Speaker 2: that in a normal, insane world, there are five hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty five members of the Senate and the House,
Speaker 2: every one of us, myself included, should be at Now.
Speaker 2: My answer, that's easy.
Speaker 1: You asked me.
Speaker 2: Do I support it? Hell no, I think it is
Speaker 2: corrupt and evil and profoundly anti Israel. That's my answer. Now,
Speaker 2: let's start with the remaining four hundred and thirty four.
Speaker 2: Let them get their answers on record.
Speaker 1: There's also something else that's been happening. And early on
Speaker 1: you saw some members of the squad, the aocs, Rashida Leibs,
Speaker 1: the more extreme socialists in the Democratic Party. They were
Speaker 1: anti Israel from day one. But we saw a shift
Speaker 1: this last week. And I want you to hear what
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren had to say, of course, coming from Cambridge, Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: she goes on CNN and this is what she had
Speaker 1: to say about Net and Yahoo.
Speaker 7: You talk about Netnahoo needing to be held accountable and
Speaker 7: things that need to happen now. Last month you joined
Speaker 7: a group of Democratic senators basically asking Joe Biden to
Speaker 7: leverage weapon sales to Israel to pressure Netnyah who to
Speaker 7: change tactics in Gaza. We know the administration is set
Speaker 7: to light a huge sale worth upwards of eighteen billion
Speaker 7: dollars to Israel, having to do with a slew of
Speaker 7: F fifteen fighter jets. Do you Congress can take action
Speaker 7: now to have a say in that. Do you want
Speaker 7: Congress to move to block that sale?
Speaker 4: Well, I think it is clear that Congress has a
Speaker 4: responsibility to act. We have legal tools here, and as
Speaker 4: I said, we cannot approve the sale of arms to
Speaker 4: a country that is in violation of our own laws
Speaker 4: on this, and that includes access to humanitarian relief. This
Speaker 4: is a moral question, it is also a legal question.
Speaker 4: Congress has responsibility here, and I'm willing to take that responsibility.
Speaker 7: Talk to me more about that, because I've heard a
Speaker 7: lot of kind of conversations around possibly considering legislation to
Speaker 7: step in. Will are you considering or will you be
Speaker 7: putting forward legislation if that's the right term when it
Speaker 7: comes to this to kind of start this process of
Speaker 7: blocking the sale.
Speaker 4: So, actually, let's let's put this in a slightly different context.
Speaker 4: We already have an established US policy here.
Speaker 7: How do you make the president not doing like this?
Speaker 4: That's I think the best we can do here is
Speaker 4: that we need to all be working together, and that's
Speaker 4: the President, that's people in Congress. And I am hopeful
Speaker 4: that when the President talks with Prime Minister net Miyahu,
Speaker 4: he will be making it clear that support for the
Speaker 4: actions of the Prime Minister are not He's not helping Israel,
Speaker 4: he is not keeping Israel safe. And that he cannot
Speaker 4: cannot continue to follow a policy of trying to starve
Speaker 4: out the people of Gaza Center.
Speaker 1: Not just as he's saying no more aid, military aid
Speaker 1: to protect him from the terrace. She then accuses net
Speaker 1: and Yahoo of quote trying to starve out the people
Speaker 1: of Gaza And that's her last point that she makes
Speaker 1: there on CNN, and CNN set her up perfectly for this.
Speaker 2: CNN wants to tell you that. And by the way,
Speaker 2: you and I did a podcast a couple of months
Speaker 2: ago that I think is a really important podcast. If
Speaker 2: you didn't listen to it, you got to go back
Speaker 2: and listen to it. Even better, you got to watch
Speaker 2: it on YouTube, because this is one of our video podcasts,
Speaker 2: and it was entitled CNN as Hamas's air Force. So
Speaker 2: is MSNBC, so is ABC. CNN is acting as propagandists
Speaker 2: for Hamas. With that, and sadly, a United States Senator,
Speaker 2: my colleague, Elizabeth Warren was elected the same day I was,
Speaker 2: in November of twenty twelve. She served twelve years, just
Speaker 2: like I have. And but you know what, she was
Speaker 2: a professor at Harvard Law School, my alma mater where
Speaker 2: I went, and Harvard Law School is a pit of
Speaker 2: rabid leftist, often Marxist thought, and we have seen it
Speaker 2: festers anti Semitism. There's a reason Clauding Gay, the president
Speaker 2: of Harvard, was forced to resign. There's a reason Harvard
Speaker 2: has seen their applications plummet because the left despises Israel.
Speaker 2: In her comments, Israel's not trying to starve at anyone.
Speaker 2: That is grotesque, that is dishonest, that is false. But
Speaker 2: understand the angry lefties who are Elizabeth Warren's base, hate hate,
Speaker 2: hate Israel. They're not neutral, they're not ambiguous, they're not fair,
Speaker 2: they're not objective. They cheer when pro Palestinian and pro
Speaker 2: Hamas protesters chant from the river to the sea, what
Speaker 2: is from the river to the sea mean? It means literally,
Speaker 2: we should annihilate Israel. There should be no Jewish state
Speaker 2: on the face of the planet. That the only thing
Speaker 2: in the land that is now Israel should be a
Speaker 2: new Palestinian state where apparently Jews are not welcome. That
Speaker 2: is the view of the radicals, And sadly, Elizabeth Warren
Speaker 2: is not an outlier. Rashida Talib is not an outliner.
Speaker 2: Ilhan Omar is not an outlier. AOC is not an outlier.
Speaker 2: Their views are reflected by Chuck Schumer and by Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: This is the so called mainstream Democrat party. They have decided.
Speaker 2: They've looked at the political landscape and they said, oh crap,
Speaker 2: the crazy lefties are our base. We need them to
Speaker 2: show up. So Israel we're willing to abandon. And that
Speaker 2: that makes me incredibly sad because it's dangerous. It's dangerous
Speaker 2: for Israel, it's dangerous for American it's dangerous for the world.
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Speaker 1: account today, Senator, I also want to ask you something else,
Speaker 1: and this seems to be becoming a much bigger political issue.
Speaker 1: There's reporting now that the First Lady, Joe Biden, is
Speaker 1: urging the president privately. They've leaked this obviously so it,
Speaker 1: you know, to make it look like this is really
Speaker 1: a big issue behind closed doors. Apparently she's urging the
Speaker 1: president privately to end the war in Gaza. Stop stop
Speaker 1: it now. Is the quote that has quote been lead.
Speaker 1: You also have John Kirby saying he won't clarify if
Speaker 1: Joe Biden wants to cease fire before or after Hamas
Speaker 1: releases hostages. This happening at the White House as well.
Speaker 1: Listen and we'll clarify on the.
Speaker 2: Ceasefire language that other president used.
Speaker 1: The statement, he says that.
Speaker 2: That there should be a cease fire, and then the
Speaker 2: next after commites, he urged Prime Minister and power negotiators
Speaker 2: to conclude a deal without delay. So are the two
Speaker 2: tied together, or is he saying ceasefire right now and
Speaker 2: then the other thing later. I mean, what how immediate
Speaker 2: is A mean?
Speaker 5: I can't really improve upon the president's language.
Speaker 4: We don't.
Speaker 5: We want to see a pause in the fighting. We
Speaker 5: want to see a cease fire immediately so that we
Speaker 5: can get more humanitarian assistance in and create a set
Speaker 5: of conditions where EID organizations feel better about operating inside
Speaker 5: GOSA because as we've already seen it as a result
Speaker 5: of the attack on the WCK workers that some aid
Speaker 5: organizations now are pulling back. So we want to see
Speaker 5: that immediacy's fireplace. We also, of course, as we've said
Speaker 5: many times, I think that that could also provide a
Speaker 5: window here to get the hostages out.
Speaker 1: Thanks, thank you so much, Thank you, Centater. It seems
Speaker 1: to me we don't know what the foreign policy is
Speaker 1: anymore of America with Israel and our ally in Israel,
Speaker 1: because they can't figure out the politics of how to
Speaker 1: play this in an election year, and they're worried about
Speaker 1: losing younger voters, so they're trying to play both sides
Speaker 1: at the bare minimum. But we also could be witnessing
Speaker 1: for the first time in my lifetime, an actual policy change,
Speaker 1: with Israel maybe not being our great ally in the Middle.
Speaker 2: East, how hard would it be for the President of
Speaker 2: the United States to stand up and say, Hamas needs
Speaker 2: to release the hostages now. Every American it is a
Speaker 2: hostage should be released now. Every Israeli that is a
Speaker 2: hostage should be released now. Every woman that you are
Speaker 2: raping right now should be released today. And if you don't,
Speaker 2: we will hunt you down, we will destroy you, we
Speaker 2: will kill you. That's what a commander in chief who
Speaker 2: was defending Americans. How would you feel if it was
Speaker 2: your family, If it was your mom, if it was
Speaker 2: your sister, if it was your daughter, if it was
Speaker 2: your son or father or brother who was trapped in
Speaker 2: hell being brutalized day after day after day. Look, I've
Speaker 2: spoken with the families of these hostages. Some of them
Speaker 2: been released, some of not. The agony they're feeling in
Speaker 2: this White House, you know what, I sat on the
Speaker 2: floor of the House and listened to it, tired State
Speaker 2: of the Union address. I don't remember Joe Biden standing
Speaker 2: up and saying Hamas, release the hostages now, or face
Speaker 2: the holy fear of the United States of America. He
Speaker 2: didn't say that, because you know what, his angry leftist
Speaker 2: base would be mad at.
Speaker 1: That senat you. And I want to go back in
Speaker 1: time because it's amazing how quick people forget about what
Speaker 1: happened on that day. I've met with the Israeli government independently.
Speaker 1: You've obviously met with them and representatives countless times. You
Speaker 1: watched a long version of the atrocities of that day.
Speaker 1: I have seen more than I wanted to, but I
Speaker 1: think it was important with the platform that I have
Speaker 1: to be an advocate for Israel to see it and
Speaker 1: witness it, and I saw it much more recently. I
Speaker 1: can't get those images out out of my head, just
Speaker 1: how orchestrated, how barbaric, how evil the people were that
Speaker 1: were doing these things to As we talked about children,
Speaker 1: to the elderly, the elderly, it has somewhat been overlooked.
Speaker 1: And I was watching some of this, and you watch
Speaker 1: these elderly people. Not only were they killing the grandfathers
Speaker 1: and great grandfathers in front of the great grandmothers and
Speaker 1: their kids and grandkids, but they were ripping them away
Speaker 1: and then taunting because they were going to go after
Speaker 1: the women. And this was all caught on video, and
Speaker 1: yet no one seems to be reminding people that those
Speaker 1: are the hostages that are still being held captive right now.
Speaker 2: They are, And where is America? Where is the president?
Speaker 2: Where is a Democrat calling for the release of the
Speaker 2: American hostages? By the way, these are not many of
Speaker 2: them are Israelis, but there are multiple American hostages that
Speaker 2: this White House A wall doesn't even begin. It's worse
Speaker 2: than a wall. If they were silent, that would be disgraceful.
Speaker 2: But they're not silent. They're telling Israel stop trying to
Speaker 2: kill the terrorists. Instead, reward the terrorist and give them
Speaker 2: a nation state that is stronger than it was before
Speaker 2: and in a better position to wage war with Israel
Speaker 2: into murder innocent civilians going forward. That is a bizarre
Speaker 2: way to respond to a horrific atrocity carried out by.
Speaker 1: Hamas Jensaki, White House Press secretary. She obviously And this
Speaker 1: is when you know it's a coordinated and orchestrated effort
Speaker 1: by talking heads, former White House pressingre terry, people in
Speaker 1: the media, people in the State Department, people in social
Speaker 1: media circles on the left, and celebrities and others this
Speaker 1: is what she had to say on Israel on MSNBC.
Speaker 6: Well, and Jen, it's very easy for people to say
Speaker 6: the president should do a the president should do BC.
Speaker 6: There is also the very real possibility, and He'll say,
Speaker 6: understand this, if the President turns on met Yahoo to belief,
Speaker 6: the President says we're going to stop sending weapons that
Speaker 6: Met and Yahoo actually uses that to gain more power
Speaker 6: inside of Israel, saying, see, we have been abandoned even
Speaker 6: by the United States.
Speaker 1: We have to fight on That's right, Joe.
Speaker 8: And I think that's important too. Look, clearly, the strategy
Speaker 8: that the United States is implementing at this point is
Speaker 8: not working to change the behavior of Prime Minister net
Speaker 8: and Yahoo is not working to end the war. So
Speaker 8: obviously something has to change. And I think it's pretty
Speaker 8: clear they're discussing that, I think in the White House
Speaker 8: and I hope in the White House in this situation
Speaker 8: room at this point in time. The question is what
Speaker 8: that will be. And there's a number of allies of
Speaker 8: President Biden's in the Senate, Democratic senators and others who
Speaker 8: have been pretty outspoken about the need for conditioning AID
Speaker 8: at least as a consideration. That's Obviously something that is
Speaker 8: being considered should be considered. The question is will that
Speaker 8: change the behavior? And what additional leverage needs to be
Speaker 8: put on Prime Minister Netnyaho at this point in time
Speaker 8: to change the trajectory. But you're right, there's a calculation
Speaker 8: if you're discussing this, if you're the president, if you're
Speaker 8: the national security team, about what would prompt Prime Minister
Speaker 8: Netanyaho to be more aggressive, what would prompt him to
Speaker 8: be less aggressive? Obviously nothing has worked to date, But
Speaker 8: it's it's not as easy as it sounds to make
Speaker 8: that determination center.
Speaker 1: Not one time did she say anything about putting pressure
Speaker 1: on Hamas the terrorist organization or the Palestinian that are
Speaker 1: supporting the terrorists to stop them. They don't care about Israel,
Speaker 1: like Israel is the terrorist organization that started all this.
Speaker 1: They were the ones that were attacked.
Speaker 2: Look that they treat Israel as a client state. They
Speaker 2: treat Israel as the oppressors, and understand the base of
Speaker 2: their party believes Israel as their oppressors and also get
Speaker 2: you know, you know, there's some folks. There's a popular
Speaker 2: media narrative that hey, Joe Biden Israelly pro Israel. But
Speaker 2: he's just got a political problem that that his party
Speaker 2: is not That's actually not accurate. Joe Biden has been
Speaker 2: undermining Israel for more than fifty years. Let's go back
Speaker 2: to nineteen eighty two. Nineteen eight two was a long
Speaker 2: time ago. Nineteen eighty two, Joe Biden was in the
Speaker 2: Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He had a private meeting with
Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Man Knock and began and Joe Biden
Speaker 2: decided to do what he's doing now, to threaten Israel,
Speaker 2: to threaten We're going to cut off usaid if Israel
Speaker 2: did not stop quote settlements in Judaea and Samaria. So
Speaker 2: it's frankly the same thing he was saying in eighty
Speaker 2: two is what he's saying now. We don't like Israel.
Speaker 2: You don't have any right to settle the land of Israel,
Speaker 2: and if you do, we're going to cut you off.
Speaker 2: And here's what Megan responded to. And this is one
Speaker 2: of the most famous responses by any Israeli Prime minister,
Speaker 2: and it was in nineteen eighty two, so a long
Speaker 2: long time ago. Here's what Began said to Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: Then a senator quote, don't threaten us with cutting off
Speaker 2: your aid. It will not work. I am not a
Speaker 2: Jew with trembling knees. I am a proud Jew with
Speaker 2: three thousand, seven hundred years of civilized history. Nobody came
Speaker 2: to our aid when we were dying in the gas
Speaker 2: chambers and ovens. Nobody came to our aid when we
Speaker 2: were striving to create our country. We paid for it,
Speaker 2: we fought for it, we died for it. We will
Speaker 2: stand by our principles, we will defend them, and when necessary,
Speaker 2: we will die for them again, with or without your aid.
Speaker 2: That's what the Prime Minister of Israel said to Joe
Speaker 2: Biden over forty years ago. You know what, the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister of Israel is still saying that to Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: But sadly, the entire Democrat Party is with Biden, undermining
Speaker 2: is and effectively forming a protective shield around the Hamas
Speaker 2: terrorists who committed the most unspeakable acts of modern times
Speaker 2: that we have seen.
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Speaker 1: Send our last question for you, and it's a really
Speaker 1: important one. If the Elizabeth Warrens, the Democratic Party, and
Speaker 1: if the aocs and Rashida Leeves and others are able
Speaker 1: to flip the script the way it seems like we're
Speaker 1: going with the help of the media, what happens if,
Speaker 1: in fact we don't give the AA needed and the
Speaker 1: military weaponry needed that Israel is willing to buy from
Speaker 1: us because this president caves and blocks it. What happens
Speaker 1: to Israel?
Speaker 2: Then well, listen, the Biden administration and the Democrats in
Speaker 2: the Congress hope that Israel will give in that they
Speaker 2: want to number one undermine Benjamin et Yahoo. And I'm
Speaker 2: not listen, I'm not being partisan in this. I'm not
Speaker 2: intuiting or supposing this. Chuck Schumer said it on the
Speaker 2: Senate floor. He said he wants net Yahu to be
Speaker 2: forced out of office. He wants Israel to have a new
Speaker 2: election and for them to elect a prime minister whose
Speaker 2: views he likes. And apparently the voters of Israel don't
Speaker 2: have a right to choose their own leader. That it's
Speaker 2: going to be the Democrats in Washington to choose that.
Speaker 2: But look the White House and the Congressional Democrats. They
Speaker 2: hope that by attacking Israel relentlessly, by threatening to cut
Speaker 2: off money, by undermining their international support, that Israel will
Speaker 2: get cold feet, that they will get weak knees, they
Speaker 2: will stop attacking Hamas and in particular Rafa. Look the
Speaker 2: Hamas leadership, the Hamas terrorists are all gathered in Rafa. Now,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you I sat down doing a zoom call
Speaker 2: two weeks ago with Prime Minister Netanyahu. He joined all
Speaker 2: the Republican senators at our lunch. I can tell you
Speaker 2: two weeks ago he was unequivocal. He said, we will
Speaker 2: go to Rafa, we will enter Rafa, we will engage
Speaker 2: in a military campaign, we will utterly eliminate Hamas, and
Speaker 2: if America has not there, we'll do it on our own.
Speaker 2: To be honest, what Netanyahu said it was almost word
Speaker 2: for word webknock, and Vegan said that has not changed.
Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons Listen, as a Texan, I've explained,
Speaker 2: people have asked me a lot of times. They've said,
Speaker 2: how is it. How did it come to pass that
Speaker 2: a Cuban Techan Southern Baptist became the leading defender of
Speaker 2: Israel in the Senate. And there are lots of reasons
Speaker 2: for that, But I'll tell you one of the biggest
Speaker 2: is the attitude of Israel. Israel is surrounded by nations
Speaker 2: that would drive it into the sea, that would murder
Speaker 2: every Israeli, every Jew if they could, and the only
Speaker 2: reason they don't is because Israel is strong enough to
Speaker 2: defeat them all. I got to say that is an
Speaker 2: incredibly Texan foreign policy. It is a national security policy.
Speaker 2: I have more than once wished that American foreign policy
Speaker 2: could have the clarity and strength that Israel's does, and
Speaker 2: so I'm not surprised that Netanyahu is saying the same
Speaker 2: thing Knock and Megan said forty plus years later, which
Speaker 2: is Israel only survives because they can survive. They are
Speaker 2: not dependent on the large Yes, the welfare from Democrats
Speaker 2: who are condescending to flick breadcrumbs from their table. But
Speaker 2: I really do wonder Ben, is there one Democrat in
Speaker 2: Congress with the guts to stand up to Biden and
Speaker 2: say this is wrong. We stand with Israel, we stand
Speaker 2: against Tamas, and all of the rest of this is garbage.
Speaker 2: If they have I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, and this is going to
Speaker 1: be such an important issue on the ballot this coming November.
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