WEBVTT - The Wild West 13: Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, erin here today, I am the bearer of

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<v Speaker 1>bad news. This episode of Grim and Mile Presents will

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<v Speaker 1>be the last, not just of this season, but of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. We've covered so much over the past four seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope that our journey through the high seas

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<v Speaker 1>and the back roads of America have helped you gain

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<v Speaker 1>a better understanding of who we are as a people

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<v Speaker 1>and how nuanced and textured our history is as a nation.

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<v Speaker 1>and now on with the show. To American settlers, the

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<v Speaker 1>West was a land of opportunity. Its soil was rich

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<v Speaker 1>with nutrients for growing all kinds of crops. Its hills

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<v Speaker 1>and mountains were teeming with fortune just one heave of

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<v Speaker 1>the pickaxe away. But even after the gold Rush had

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<v Speaker 1>ended and East Coast transplants moved back home with their

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<v Speaker 1>sifting pans between their legs, California still had more to offer.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen fifteen, a whole new group of people set

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<v Speaker 1>out west to seek their fortune and their freedom. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to one man, Thomas Edison, filmmakers had gotten their start

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<v Speaker 1>in Fort Lee, New Jersey, which was right across the

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<v Speaker 1>Hudson River from New York. The land was cheaper than

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<v Speaker 1>it was in the city, yet still close enough for

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<v Speaker 1>Broadway actors to take the ferry over to make movies.

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<v Speaker 1>But New Jersey was also home to the kinescope patent

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<v Speaker 1>holder Thomas Edison. The kinescope was the first motion picture

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<v Speaker 1>camera invented, primarily by Edison's employee William Kennedy Dixon, but

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<v Speaker 1>Edison held the patent, and he wielded it, along with

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<v Speaker 1>many others, like a sword against every filmmaker on the

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<v Speaker 1>East Coast. In nineteen oh seven, Edison partnered with several

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<v Speaker 1>other patent holders, like camera company Biograph and film manufacturer

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<v Speaker 1>Easpin Kodak to create the Motion Picture Patent's Company, otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>known as the Edison Trust. This cartel licensed its patents

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<v Speaker 1>out to six of America's largest filmmakers so they could

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<v Speaker 1>make their movies, but those films could not be sold

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<v Speaker 1>directly to distributors. All films had to be rented from

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<v Speaker 1>the Trust, and because all aspects of the process were

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<v Speaker 1>owned essentially by one man, that meant that Edison now

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<v Speaker 1>had a monopoly on filmmaking, and he went after anyone

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<v Speaker 1>caught violating his patents too. Movie houses that showed non

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<v Speaker 1>MPPC films were technically violating the law thanks to a

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen oh seven court case, and sometimes they found themselves

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<v Speaker 1>shut down by US marshals for doing so. If a

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<v Speaker 1>filmmaker or distributor still didn't get the hint, Edison would

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<v Speaker 1>send gangsters and hired goons to remind them about the patents.

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<v Speaker 1>There were also arbitrary and punitive rules dictating film lengths

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<v Speaker 1>and what kind of movies could even be made. They

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<v Speaker 1>was stifling, as you can imagine, so filmmakers started looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a way out, and around nineteen fifteen they found

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<v Speaker 1>it three thousand miles away in California, which was the

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<v Speaker 1>ideal location for movie making. The weather was perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>filming year round, the landscape was diverse, land was cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was plenty of labor to help build the

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<v Speaker 1>new industry in a new place, far from the miserly

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<v Speaker 1>grasp of Thomas Edison. And what's more, California's court system

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<v Speaker 1>often sited with small independent outfits over large companies when

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<v Speaker 1>it came to patent disputes, and enforcing those patents from

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<v Speaker 1>across the country was going to be almost impossible for

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<v Speaker 1>Edison and his trust. The final blow to the inventor's

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<v Speaker 1>choke hold on the film industry came that same year

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<v Speaker 1>when the Supreme Court issued a ruling on the MPPC.

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<v Speaker 1>It said a patentee may simply enforce his right to

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<v Speaker 1>exclude infringement, but he must not use his patent as

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<v Speaker 1>a weapon to disable a rival contestant or to drive

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<v Speaker 1>him from the field, for he cannot justify such use.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, Edison's reign of terror was over. Filmmakers

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<v Speaker 1>were now free to make the kinds of movies they wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they could do it in the ideal location,

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<v Speaker 1>one that harkened back to a time not so long

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<v Speaker 1>before cowboys roam the range. I'm Aaron Mankee and Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the Wild West. In nineteen sixty two, Paramount Pictures

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<v Speaker 1>released the John Ford western The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.

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<v Speaker 1>The film stars Jimmy Stewart as an old frontier lawman

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<v Speaker 1>who tries to bring in a local outlaw without resorting

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<v Speaker 1>to violence. When the outlaw played by Lee Marvin, is

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<v Speaker 1>shot dead in a fight, Stuart's character believes that he

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<v Speaker 1>has done the deed, and in reality, his friend played

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<v Speaker 1>by John Wayne, had killed the outlaw to save the

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<v Speaker 1>law man's life. Stuart's character eventually confesses the truth to

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<v Speaker 1>an editor at his hometown newspaper, but the editor refuses

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<v Speaker 1>to print it. When asked why, the editor says, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print

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<v Speaker 1>the legend. Throughout this fourth season of Grim and Maal Present,

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<v Speaker 1>we have examined the beloved tropes of Western culture, back

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<v Speaker 1>when good men walked tall and wore ten stars on

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<v Speaker 1>their chests. But that image of the lone gunslinger protecting

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<v Speaker 1>his town from the criminal element is fiction, a legend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the product of nostalgia for good old days that

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<v Speaker 1>never really existed. They were painted into our memories by

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<v Speaker 1>directors like Ford or Sergio Leone or Howard Hawks, directors

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't know it at the time, but were shaping

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<v Speaker 1>the way that the Wild West would be remembered for

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<v Speaker 1>years to come. That period feels like a glitch in

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<v Speaker 1>the timeline, both older than it really was and yet

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<v Speaker 1>close enough to be romanticized. According to the US Census

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau of eighteen ninety, the country still had a frontier

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<v Speaker 1>up at that time, and then suddenly it didn't. Three

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<v Speaker 1>years later, the World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago featured a

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<v Speaker 1>city illuminated by electricity, as well as a two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty four foot tall observation wheel, the original Ferris wheel. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>well as the exposition pulsed with current, the American Historical

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<v Speaker 1>Association was conducting a meeting not too far away and

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in a sweltering room, A young professor named Frederick

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Turner stood up to speak, and I've mentioned him

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<v Speaker 1>in previous episodes this season, but let's go deeper into

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<v Speaker 1>his story. He was only thirty one years old at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but wise beyond his years. Turner believed that

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<v Speaker 1>the frontiers of the Midwest and western United States had

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<v Speaker 1>been the catalyst for true independence for the American people.

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<v Speaker 1>To him, the wild West had been an outlet for

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<v Speaker 1>the violent tendencies of Westerners, and that without it, Americans

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<v Speaker 1>would lose the heartiness that allowed them to be self

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<v Speaker 1>reliant go getters. Turner's audience, however, was indifferent to his message,

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<v Speaker 1>likely wondering if they'd be done in time to catch

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bill's last performance. Turner's frontier thesis didn't make much

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<v Speaker 1>of a splash at first. It was lost amongst the

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<v Speaker 1>other news coming out of the exposition, but after several

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<v Speaker 1>years his idea finally found its way into everything from

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<v Speaker 1>American politics to high school history and literature. His theory

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<v Speaker 1>was well on its way to reshaping and rewriting American life,

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<v Speaker 1>which was exactly what he had wanted at first. By

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<v Speaker 1>the time his Frontier thesis had reached public consciousness, he

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<v Speaker 1>had already realized that he was wrong the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>and as with many ideas, once it got out, there

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<v Speaker 1>was no putting it back. Those ideas eventually leached into

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<v Speaker 1>everything from dime store novels and radio shows about life

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<v Speaker 1>on the Range to wild West shows. Audiences flocked to

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<v Speaker 1>see Buffalo Bill Cody and Annie Oakley put on the

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<v Speaker 1>root teutonist live performances in the country, ones that romanticized

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<v Speaker 1>the frontier while making light of the Native American's plight.

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<v Speaker 1>Those who couldn't make it to a live show or

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<v Speaker 1>didn't care to read, could listen to tales of honor

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<v Speaker 1>and justice each week on the radio. These audio plays

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<v Speaker 1>followed the same formula as their dime novel counterparts. There

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<v Speaker 1>was always a hero, Julie, a man who stood as

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<v Speaker 1>the law in a lawless town. Maybe he was the

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<v Speaker 1>marshal or a sheriff or a lone ranger using his

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<v Speaker 1>wits and his sharpshooting skills to keep outlaws and bandits

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<v Speaker 1>at bay. And in the process, the Western as a

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<v Speaker 1>genre became the quintessential venue for a showdown between good

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<v Speaker 1>and evil, and as the entertainment industry shifted its focus

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<v Speaker 1>from radio to film, those showdowns got a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>more dramatic. Early silent films weren't just vehicles for fictional gunslingers.

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<v Speaker 1>Edison's earliest shorts captured re enactments from Buffalo Bill's Wild

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<v Speaker 1>West Show. Viewers could catch a glimpse of Annie Oakley

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<v Speaker 1>giving a demo of her sharpshooting skills, or of a

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<v Speaker 1>Native American performing a traditional buffalo dance before John Wayne

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<v Speaker 1>or Gary Cooper put on their spurs. Americans got to

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<v Speaker 1>see a version of the Wild West that they had

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<v Speaker 1>only dreamed about. Not long after these Edison films debuted,

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<v Speaker 1>Edwin s Porter filmed the very first Western, The Great

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<v Speaker 1>Train Robbery. At only eleven minutes long, it told the

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<v Speaker 1>sordid and bloody story of a violent robbery aboard a locomotive,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was only the beginning too. The Great Train

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<v Speaker 1>Robbery led the way for an entire genre of motion

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<v Speaker 1>pictures that appealed to all kinds of people, but mostly

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<v Speaker 1>conservative Americans longing for the good old days when men

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<v Speaker 1>were men and the law was respected. At least that's

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<v Speaker 1>how they saw it. In reality, the Western was about

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<v Speaker 1>to become a metaphor for doing the right thing against

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<v Speaker 1>a corrupt system of oppression, a standing alone for what

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<v Speaker 1>was right when everyone else was saying that it was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Toward the end of the nineteen twenties, as silent films

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<v Speaker 1>evolved into talkies, the Western genre remained a mainstay of

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<v Speaker 1>the medium. It consistently brought comfort and peace to a

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<v Speaker 1>nation contending with the socio political strife of an economic

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<v Speaker 1>depression and war. As the world continued to change, Americans

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<v Speaker 1>turned to westerns to feed their nostalgic cravings for a

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<v Speaker 1>time that never really existed, and Hollywood was only too

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<v Speaker 1>happy to oblige. The genre was deceptively deep, allowing writers

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<v Speaker 1>and directors to inject their stories with agendas and messages

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<v Speaker 1>meant to sway the movie going public toward their causes.

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<v Speaker 1>An audience could find just about anything they liked, be

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<v Speaker 1>it romance, gunfights, or even horror. When we think of

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood westerns, we think of their Golden Age, namely the

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<v Speaker 1>period from the nineteen fifties through the mid nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when actors such as John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart,

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<v Speaker 1>and Clint Eastwood donned their stets and hats and six

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<v Speaker 1>shooters to protect small one horse towns. The wild West

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<v Speaker 1>of these Golden Age films, though, was truly a frontier

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<v Speaker 1>for freedom for white Americans. They embodied the promise of

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<v Speaker 1>manifest destiny, but only on the surface. Behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>that appearance of freedom came at a great cost, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to the Hayes Code. The Hayes Code was a set

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<v Speaker 1>of rules that Hollywood imposed on itself to appease powerful

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<v Speaker 1>religious organizations who believe the movie industry was nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>a den of sin. Before the Code, filmmakers depicted sex

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<v Speaker 1>and violence on film without much regard for who might

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<v Speaker 1>be watching. After nineteen thirty six, offensive language, sex, adultery, sacrilege,

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<v Speaker 1>and extreme violence were outlawed. Thanks to the code's strict governance.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, some films managed to slip through the cracks

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<v Speaker 1>with content that otherwise would not have been approved, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Code itself was updated over time, but for two decades,

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<v Speaker 1>if a director wanted to get his movie seen by

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<v Speaker 1>American audiences, it had to get the green light from

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<v Speaker 1>the Hayes Office. Over time, Hollywood's self censorship became less

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<v Speaker 1>of a priority. Don't get me wrong, the Hayes Code

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<v Speaker 1>was still being enforced well into the nineteen sixties. But

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<v Speaker 1>there was another threat waiting in the wings, one that,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the United States Government, was even more sinister

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<v Speaker 1>than a pistol full of blanks and role of thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five millimeter film communism. America's opposition to communism began during

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen thirties, but took off in earnest following World

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<v Speaker 1>War II. The Soviet Union had been our allies during

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<v Speaker 1>the war, but things changed when all the nations returned

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<v Speaker 1>to their respective corners of the world. A task force

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<v Speaker 1>was formed called the House on American Activities Committee or HUAC.

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<v Speaker 1>It was charged with flushing out communists and communist sympathizers

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<v Speaker 1>from all facets of American life, including the government itself

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<v Speaker 1>and Hollywood. Now, the House on American Activities Committee couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>punish anyone for being a communist. Thanks to the First Amendment,

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<v Speaker 1>but they could hold individuals in contempt for refusing to testify,

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<v Speaker 1>and people who invoked their Fifth Amendment right to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>self incrimination or who did not hand over the names

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<v Speaker 1>of other alleged communists were blacklisted by their employers. And

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps no one is more remembered for such a thing

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<v Speaker 1>than the Hollywood Ten, a group of ten screenwriters who

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<v Speaker 1>refused to testify before the House on American Activities Committee

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<v Speaker 1>and then name names because they held firmed their principles.

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<v Speaker 1>The Hollywood Ten were cited for contempt of Congress and

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<v Speaker 1>spent a whole year in prison, but things didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>any better once they were released. Some of the men

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<v Speaker 1>left the industry entirely, while others continued to write under

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<v Speaker 1>fake names. For example, one guy named Dalton Trumbo wrote

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifty sixth film The Brave One under the

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<v Speaker 1>pseudonym Robert Rich. So how did one screenwriter find himself

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<v Speaker 1>in the crosshairs of the House on American Activities Committee

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<v Speaker 1>during the Red Scare, especially when he was writing one

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest American Western films of all time. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>it featured an honorable law man standing alone against evil,

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<v Speaker 1>an ideal example of the genre spirit. Well, not everyone

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<v Speaker 1>thought so, especially one conservative actor known for his portrayal

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<v Speaker 1>of macho cowboys and for his questionable beliefs. Carl Foreman

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<v Speaker 1>had written a number of films before nineteen fifty one,

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<v Speaker 1>including war pictures, noirs, and literary adaptations. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>skilled screenwriter who knew how to tell a good story,

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<v Speaker 1>and one year after the end of World War Two

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<v Speaker 1>he decided to tell a new kind. He drafted a

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<v Speaker 1>four page outline of a revisionist western about a loan

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<v Speaker 1>sheriff standing up against a band of outlaws. Now, for

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<v Speaker 1>those that don't know, revisionist westerns sort of tossed aside

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<v Speaker 1>the American individualism and ideals of the older films within

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<v Speaker 1>the genre, choosing instead to bring light to the corruption

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<v Speaker 1>and moral ambiguity of the bygone era. Foreman had a

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<v Speaker 1>solid narrative in his back pocket, but by nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>seven it became clear that it was very similar to

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<v Speaker 1>another story, a work of short fiction published in Colliers

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<v Speaker 1>by John Cunningham titled The Tin Star. So Foreman bought

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<v Speaker 1>the rights to the story and got to work on

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<v Speaker 1>a screenplay, pulling from both his outline and Cunningham's piece.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called High Noon, and it was about more

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<v Speaker 1>than just good versus evil. This was an allegory about

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<v Speaker 1>global unification against tyranny. It was a statement in support

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<v Speaker 1>of democracy. Now we don't need to understand the intricacies here,

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<v Speaker 1>but just know this. Such a plot would have been

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<v Speaker 1>plenty popular during the war, but after rampant anti Communist

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<v Speaker 1>attitudes took hold in the late forties, things had changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Foreman was at the top of his game in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one, and he continued to plug away at the script.

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<v Speaker 1>He was working for a well regarded production company. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>been nominated twice for Best Screenplay, and he had just

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<v Speaker 1>moved into a Brentwood college once owned by Orson Wells

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<v Speaker 1>and Rita Hayworth. And then it happened. Foreman opened his

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<v Speaker 1>mailbox to a letter printed on pink paper. It had

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<v Speaker 1>come from Washington. He had been summoned to testify before

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<v Speaker 1>the House on American Activities Committee. Now Foreman had two options.

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<v Speaker 1>He could fully cooperate with their investigation and give up

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<v Speaker 1>the names of any supposed Communists that he might know,

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<v Speaker 1>or he could lie, hide and try to muddle the

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<v Speaker 1>truth as much as possible. Unfortunately, the proof was already there.

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<v Speaker 1>Carl Foreman had been a member of the American Communist

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<v Speaker 1>Party from the years nineteen thirty eight until nineteen forty two,

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<v Speaker 1>and he hadn't been the only one. A number of

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood writers and actors had joined the party around that time,

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<v Speaker 1>but Foreman left after he enlisted to serve in World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two. Now he had to choose between being a

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<v Speaker 1>rat or killing his career, and neither option was ideal.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily for him, he didn't have to appear right away.

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<v Speaker 1>His appointment with Congress wouldn't be for another few months,

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<v Speaker 1>so he continued to work on High Noon, and the

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<v Speaker 1>more he considered the story, the more he thought of

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<v Speaker 1>his immigrant family, of his socialist mother, of the Great Depression,

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<v Speaker 1>and how it had ended their business and wiped out

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<v Speaker 1>their fortunes. They had swung hard left politically because of

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<v Speaker 1>the crash, and Foreman was no different. He knew that

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<v Speaker 1>the Blacklist was going to devastate Hollywood and the country

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole. So he came to a decision, one

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<v Speaker 1>that would change his life and the landscape of the

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<v Speaker 1>western genre in Hollywood Forever. He tweaked the plot of

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<v Speaker 1>High Noon to reflect the current American political climate. His protagonist,

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<v Speaker 1>a Marshal named Will Caine, would represent Foreman himself, a

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<v Speaker 1>solitary force of good going up against the bandits of

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<v Speaker 1>the House on American Activities Committee. The townspeople that Caine

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<v Speaker 1>failed to recruit to help him take on the outsider

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<v Speaker 1>threat were now Foreman's fellow screenwriters and other professionals who

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<v Speaker 1>stood idly by as the government brought its boot down

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<v Speaker 1>on him. But Carl Foreman had a supporter who also

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<v Speaker 1>felt the pressure of Washington's anti Communist committee. His name

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<v Speaker 1>was Stanley Kramer. Kramer was the producer of the film

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<v Speaker 1>and Foreman's friend. He had signed a five year, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>film deal with Columbia Pictures, which had been a major

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<v Speaker 1>milestone for his fledgling company. But Foreman now had a

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<v Speaker 1>major target on his back, and every day he continued

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<v Speaker 1>to work on the project that Bullseye White a little

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<v Speaker 1>more to include Kramer himself. But just like Carl Foreman,

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley Kramer had a choice to make. He could stay

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<v Speaker 1>true to his friend and risk his production company, or

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<v Speaker 1>cut Foreman loose and destroy the man's career. It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>help that Karl had never written a Western before and

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<v Speaker 1>the Pictures director Fred Zeinerman had never directed one. But

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<v Speaker 1>this wasn't a shoot him up like the westerns of old.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a character driven story with sharp dialogue and

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<v Speaker 1>tightly wound suspense, the latter of which was emphasized by

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<v Speaker 1>the frequent appearance of ticking clocks throughout the film, each

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<v Speaker 1>of them counting down to the twelve pm mark, when

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<v Speaker 1>the protagonist's enemy was scheduled to finally make his appearance.

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<v Speaker 1>To play the Harry Marshall will Kine Kramer hired Gary Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper had been a big star in the years prior,

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<v Speaker 1>but hadn't been doing so well career wise for some time,

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<v Speaker 1>and saw great potential in High Noon script. His love

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<v Speaker 1>interest was played by an up and comer that you

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<v Speaker 1>may or may not have heard of, Grace Kelly, the

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<v Speaker 1>future Princess of Monaco. While the producer secured the cast

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<v Speaker 1>and prepared the shoot, Carl Foreman's date with the House

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<v Speaker 1>on American Activities Committee began to draw closer. Gary Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>wound up befriending Carl over the course of their working

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<v Speaker 1>together on the film, and even volunteered to speak before

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<v Speaker 1>the committee on his behalf but Foreman's lawyers refused to

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<v Speaker 1>allow it. Finally, Stanley Kramer had had enough. Washington had

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<v Speaker 1>been breathing down his neck for some time, so he

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<v Speaker 1>confronted Carl Foreman with two demands. First, he needed to

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<v Speaker 1>resign from High Noon, and second, he had to sell

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<v Speaker 1>off his stock options in the picture. Foreman refused, though,

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<v Speaker 1>which led to Kramer firing him anyway. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>just one problem. Foreman hadn't signed a contract deferring his salary.

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<v Speaker 1>This meant that the bank providing the film's financing could

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<v Speaker 1>cut off access at any time, bringing production to a halt.

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<v Speaker 1>Kramer's hand was forced. He re hired Foreman as writer

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<v Speaker 1>and associate producer, but their friendship would never recover. On

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<v Speaker 1>September twenty fourth of nineteen fifty one, Foreman's judgment day

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<v Speaker 1>had finally arrived. He drove himself to the Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>Federal Building for his hearing with the House on American

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<v Speaker 1>Activities Committee. They asked him if he was a member

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<v Speaker 1>of the Communist Party, which he answered truthfully. He was

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<v Speaker 1>not currently a member of the party, as evidenced by

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<v Speaker 1>the loyalty oath that he had just signed, but when

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<v Speaker 1>he was asked if he had ever been a member

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<v Speaker 1>prior to nineteen fifty, Foreman pled the fifth. He also

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't give up the names of any other Communists that

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<v Speaker 1>he knew. His testimony led to disastrous consequences for his career,

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<v Speaker 1>with stakeholders and company directors of High Noon legally removing

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<v Speaker 1>all traces of him from the picture. Foreman also accepted

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred fifty thousand dollars in exchange for his associate

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<v Speaker 1>producer credit. Some felt that he should have held firm,

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<v Speaker 1>but he needed the money. It didn't matter that he

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the best screenwriters Hollywood had to offer.

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<v Speaker 1>He was officially blacklisted, and now he was out of

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<v Speaker 1>a job. Of course, Carl Foreman was not the only

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<v Speaker 1>victim of the House on American Activities Committee. Around five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred members of the motion picture industry found themselves out

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<v Speaker 1>of work for a decade or more. Some took their

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<v Speaker 1>lives through suicide as a result, while others died from

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<v Speaker 1>the stress. Studios also stopped pouring money into films that

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<v Speaker 1>they felt had a political agenda. They simply didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with the headaches from Washington, leaving movies like

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<v Speaker 1>High Noon a rarity, but Stanley Kramer eventually saw the

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<v Speaker 1>lights after his partnership with Columbia dissolved. He went on

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<v Speaker 1>to make nineteen fifty eight s The Defiant Ones with

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<v Speaker 1>blacklisted screenwriter Nedrick Young, and when Young won the Academy

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<v Speaker 1>Award for Best Screenplay alongside his co writer Harold Jacob Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>his identity remained public. Foreman, on the other hand, had

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<v Speaker 1>to flee the United States and ended up in London.

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<v Speaker 1>He went on to write Bridge on the River Qui

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<v Speaker 1>in Secret along with his fellow blacklisted writer Michael Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>That film won the Oscar for Best Quarsplay as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but Foreman didn't receive credit for it until more than

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years later. And meanwhile, High Noon had been a

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<v Speaker 1>roaring success. It remained a popular Western for decades. Some, however,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't appreciate its not so subtle message, namely John Wayne.

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne was a staunch conservative and an outspoken member of

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<v Speaker 1>an anti communist group called the Motion Picture Alliance for

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<v Speaker 1>the Preservation of American Ideals. He led conservative Hollywood in

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<v Speaker 1>a campaign against High Noon, calling it then, I quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the most Unamerican thing I've seen in my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd even been offered the role of will Kine, but

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<v Speaker 1>had turned it down because of what he considered to

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<v Speaker 1>be the film's pro communist sentiments, although it could be

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<v Speaker 1>argued that exercising one's First Amendment right to comment on

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<v Speaker 1>the country's failings at the expense of freedom was probably

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<v Speaker 1>the most American thing someone could do. Well. Despite Wayne's

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<v Speaker 1>vocal opposition of the film, Hi Noon went on to

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<v Speaker 1>be nominated for seven Academy Awards, including Best Picture, Best Actor,

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<v Speaker 1>and Best Screenplay, but there was a problem when the

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<v Speaker 1>winners for the Best Actor category were announced. Gary Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>who had played the Marshall will Kine in the film,

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<v Speaker 1>was overseas filming another project. Unable to accept the award himself,

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<v Speaker 1>he asked a good friend to go on stage in

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<v Speaker 1>his behalf, knowing that that friend would be in the audience,

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<v Speaker 1>and so as the name Gary Cooper rang in everyone's ears,

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<v Speaker 1>one man rose from his seat and traveled down the

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<v Speaker 1>aisle to the stage. He took hold of the golden statue,

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<v Speaker 1>smiled and said, I'm glad to see that they're giving

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<v Speaker 1>this to a man who is not only most deserving,

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<v Speaker 1>but has conducted himself throughout his years in our business

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<v Speaker 1>in a manner we can all be proud of. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end of his speech, the audience applauded and the

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<v Speaker 1>man sauntered off the stage. Oh and the name of

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<v Speaker 1>that friend that Gary Cooper had called in to take

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<v Speaker 1>his place? It was the film's biggest critic and opponent,

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<v Speaker 1>fellow actor and Western legend John Wayne. I truly do

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<v Speaker 1>hope that you've enjoyed our journey through the Wild West

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<v Speaker 1>over the past thirteen episodes. It's a misunderstood and misrepresented

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<v Speaker 1>period of American history, but my team and I firmly

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<v Speaker 1>believe that the stories we presented to you offer a

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<v Speaker 1>more accurate and more nuanced look at what really happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you enjoyed today's exploration of how Hollywood catched

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<v Speaker 1>in on the myth of the West, then you'll want

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<v Speaker 1>to stick around through the sponsored break. We've saved one

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<v Speaker 1>more powerful story, and my teammates Ali Stead will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you all about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Nostalgia for the Wild West doesn't live in a vacuum,

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<v Speaker 2>nor has it disappeared. It's still all around us, evident

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<v Speaker 2>in television shows like Yellowstone, which presents a modern take

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<v Speaker 2>on the sanitized whitewashed and ultraviolent version of what men

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<v Speaker 2>like John Wayne thought the Wild West was actually like.

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<v Speaker 2>Or in Westworld, where the audiences can live vicariously through

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<v Speaker 2>characters who get to explore their wildest Wild West fantasies.

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<v Speaker 2>Above all else, these shows leave viewers wondering, would I

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<v Speaker 2>have been a hero with a badge on my chest?

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<v Speaker 2>Or would I have been the outlaw clad in all

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<v Speaker 2>black and taking what I wanted?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Once upon a time, for a little while, that question

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<v Speaker 2>could have been easily answered in a place called Palisade, Nevada.

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<v Speaker 2>It all started in the eighteen forties when a new

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<v Speaker 2>railroad was proposed that would connect the East and the

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<v Speaker 2>West coasts. Railroad executives didn't have time to waste on

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<v Speaker 2>figuring out treaties or territorial rights, so they just started

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<v Speaker 2>petitioning Congress. The concept was rejected year after year until

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<v Speaker 2>the passage of the Railroad Act of eighteen sixty two,

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<v Speaker 2>which allowed the new track to be laid. The plan

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<v Speaker 2>was to have the Central Railroad Company of cal California

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<v Speaker 2>meet the newly created Union Pacific Railroad in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the country. Construction began in eighteen sixty three, with

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<v Speaker 2>much of the labor being performed by immigrants from China

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<v Speaker 2>and Ireland. Meanwhile, the government worked out with the railroad

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<v Speaker 2>companies where new stations and therefore new towns would be built.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no rhyme or reason to it. Pins were

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<v Speaker 2>tossed onto maps with little regard for the viability of

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<v Speaker 2>the towns that were being proposed. Some would thrive, while

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<v Speaker 2>others would succumb to the dangers of frontier living. Gold

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<v Speaker 2>fever back in the eighteen forties had helped flood the

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<v Speaker 2>West with fresh blood, but towns that sprouted overnight seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to disappear almost as quickly when those gilded promises were

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<v Speaker 2>washed away like grit in the river. One town named

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<v Speaker 2>Palisade was founded in eighteen sixty eight. It was meant

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<v Speaker 2>to be a stop on the Central Pacific Railroad, which

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<v Speaker 2>would bring people to and from Nevada. This included wealthy

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<v Speaker 2>investors in the nearby silver mine. Palisade promised to become

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<v Speaker 2>a prominent destination, with folks coming through on their way

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<v Speaker 2>to Chicago or San Francisco. Unfortunately, few passengers really stuck

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<v Speaker 2>around and spent money there. It was a small town

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<v Speaker 2>with a population of only six hundred people, and other

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<v Speaker 2>than the silver mine, there wasn't a lot to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Word of their guests disappointment made it back to the townsfolk,

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<v Speaker 2>who understood what was missing the full wild West experience.

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<v Speaker 2>You see, years earlier, pioneers had traveled out west and

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<v Speaker 2>written to their friends and family, and even to newspapers

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<v Speaker 2>back east about their exciting adventures. Their readers had gotten

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<v Speaker 2>a taste of the lawlessness and danger that was apparently

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<v Speaker 2>prevalent in the western boom towns like Palisade. Unfortunately, when

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<v Speaker 2>those visitors checked out, they didn't exactly get the experience

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<v Speaker 2>they were hoping for. So the citizens of Palisade decided

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<v Speaker 2>to take matters into their own hands. In the early

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen seventies, when trains pulled into Palisade Station, passengers could

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<v Speaker 2>expect to see lawmen and outlaws having shootouts at high

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<v Speaker 2>noon in the middle of the street. Bodies hit the

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<v Speaker 2>floor while bank robbers made daring escapes in broad daylight.

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<v Speaker 2>It was exactly what they read about the news articles

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<v Speaker 2>and dime novels, and it was completely fake. The whole

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<v Speaker 2>town was in on it, including the pistols, the bank robberies.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd even gotten animal blood from nearby slaughterhouses to sell

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<v Speaker 2>the grizzly death scenes. No one missed out on the fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the local Shoshoni tribe members got in on the

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<v Speaker 2>action by performing raids on the town, really selling battles

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<v Speaker 2>with locals and pretending to scalp them at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Even railroad employees were known to sneak actors onto the

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<v Speaker 2>trains to set everyone up before they pulled into Palisade.

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<v Speaker 2>Funnily enough, despite the town's notoriety as a den of

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<v Speaker 2>sin and violence, it had no sheriff. Over the course

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<v Speaker 2>of these reenactments, more people were killed in Palisade than

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<v Speaker 2>actually lived there, and the travelers were none to observant.

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<v Speaker 2>They never noticed that they themselves weren't the targets of

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<v Speaker 2>these ruthless outlaws. Over time, as the West was settled

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<v Speaker 2>and fewer and fewer people were coming through looking for

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<v Speaker 2>a show, Palisade and other boomtowns folded up shop. The

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<v Speaker 2>pops of gunshots were soon replaced with the eerie sound

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<v Speaker 2>of wind whistling through a ghost town. A flood in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ten decimated the area, and by the nineteen thirties

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<v Speaker 2>the railroad had shut down as well. Buildings disappeared, leaving

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<v Speaker 2>nothing behind but the land. But the name Palisade would

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<v Speaker 2>grace American's lips a couple of more times before fading

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<v Speaker 2>into complete obscurity. According to one legend, President Herbert Hoover

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<v Speaker 2>was passing through in nineteen thirty two when his train

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<v Speaker 2>was overcome by strangers armed with two dozen sticks of dynamite.

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<v Speaker 2>Two men reportedly scuffled with the railroad inspector before running off.

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<v Speaker 2>One inspector claimed there hadn't even been dynamite to begin with. Finally,

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and five, the heir to the town

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<v Speaker 2>of Palisades sold it at auction for one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand dollars. It's not known who bought it, but

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<v Speaker 2>according to one article, a whole lot of nothing in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of nowhere sold for one hundred and fifty thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>the most money ever paid for nothing that anyone could remember. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what remains of the wild West today, romantic notions

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<v Speaker 2>of a time that never really existed. In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Grim and Maud Presents The Wild West was executive produced

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<v Speaker 1>by me Aaron Mankey and hosted by Aaron Mankey and

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra Steed. Writing for this season was provided by Michelle Mudo,

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<v Speaker 1>with research by Alexandra Steed, Sam Alberty, Cassandra de Alba,

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<v Speaker 1>and Harry Marx. Fact Checking was performed by Jamie Vargas,

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<v Speaker 1>with sensitivity reading by Stacy Parshall Jensen. Production assistance was

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<v Speaker 1>provided by Josh Stain, Jesse Funk, Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick.

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