WEBVTT - Hour 1 - Guest Host Chris Mannix (01-24-20)

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<v Speaker 1>You go online to Dan in m I a Capitol

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<v Speaker 1>Mia dot com for Dan Patrick. This is Chris Mannix

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<v Speaker 1>on that Dan Patrick show. A Welcome to the program,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Patrick's Show. Chris Mannix Sports Illustrated SI dot com

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in for dpet Dan's off today getting down to Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for a full week of Super Bowl events

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<v Speaker 1>down on South Beach. The boys. You're headed there? What

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow morning, tomorrow afternoon? Getting ready to roll out there. Fritzie,

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<v Speaker 1>you're very excited. I can tell I am. Normally I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very nervous about the whole guest list and guest showing

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<v Speaker 1>up on time and everything. But I'm pumped about in

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<v Speaker 1>Miami South Beach. It's gonna we got a next lineup already,

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<v Speaker 1>gonna add a few things as the days to professor

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<v Speaker 1>would be good. I was gonna say this year, just

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<v Speaker 1>mailing it in, just get very excited about. Doesn't care

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<v Speaker 1>at all. It's not the guest however, you big Southbeach guy, Fritzie.

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<v Speaker 1>I can you know, shirts off, guns out kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing back in the day, maybe, but you know, things

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<v Speaker 1>have definite kind of falling apart since my late teens.

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<v Speaker 1>When back of the day, what did that? I had

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<v Speaker 1>a little a little window about twenty five thirty years

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<v Speaker 1>ago now, butt or keep the shirt on and player

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in the hotel them with my Chinese group,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like eighty four for see where that is

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<v Speaker 1>beak back then. Yeah, Paul, you're mister Miami. You go

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<v Speaker 1>down there for the heat all the time. Your buddy Spoelstra.

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<v Speaker 1>What's what any tips for us down there? Uh not really,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Miami. Yeah you are. I'm not a big South

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<v Speaker 1>Beach guy really. I mean I'm from Boston. I'm more

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<v Speaker 1>of a you know, Irish dive bar type of guy. Shirts.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, give me like jeans and a T shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some kind of like I don't a retro

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<v Speaker 1>T shirt Hartford Whaler's T shirt that I can wear

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<v Speaker 1>around like that's pretty much it. Yeah, Brola, Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little worried about the South beacheon. I don't fit

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<v Speaker 1>in either, Like if there are there dive bars and

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<v Speaker 1>like normal things down there, or are we gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to like kind of club it out by the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can go hang out if you can buy

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<v Speaker 1>the train station. I don't know, perhaps Seaton. Speaking of which,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to come to see the show while

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<v Speaker 1>we're down there, you go to dan in mia dot

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<v Speaker 1>com to get tickets for it. He should come see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Come check out the live show dan in mia dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Chris, I was a tremendous transition there by seven conte. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wove that in seamlessly, wove that, in effortless

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<v Speaker 1>woven I lot to get into today. Glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, about a week or week to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowls. We'll talk a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty nine ers, Jimmy Garoppolo, that's some things to say

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<v Speaker 1>our other chiefs, Patrick Mahomes. I do want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of NBA today though, a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>they discussed there. The trade deadline is just two weeks away,

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<v Speaker 1>and expect that to be busy. Adrian ward Nowski, the

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<v Speaker 1>senior NBA insider over at ESPN, He's going to join

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<v Speaker 1>us in the second hour to talk about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the potential deals that could be on the table. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we'll see I think we'll see a flurry of activity.

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<v Speaker 1>There are probably six teams right now that you can

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<v Speaker 1>say legitimately have a chance at winning a championship. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Wolds about that. Zion Williamson made his debut

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, expected to play again Tonight's pretty pretty impressive debut.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys talked a little bit about it yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>but four three pointers for Zion Williamson in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if anything that's encouraging, what I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see as much as anything from Zion Williamson is can

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<v Speaker 1>he keep that up? Are we going to see Zion

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<v Speaker 1>as a stretch four type of player, because in today's

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<v Speaker 1>NBA you have to be. You can't exist in the

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<v Speaker 1>league today as a big man without being an effective

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<v Speaker 1>perimeter shooter. And certainly it's a plus you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be an effective three points here. So we'll talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Wild was down in New Orleans for that

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<v Speaker 1>debut on Wednesday night. Yeah, Paulie, how does it work

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<v Speaker 1>with players like Zion or any players in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think a lot of people will plan to

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<v Speaker 1>watch him, especially these first few games, and there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of talks he won't play back to backs,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll manage minutes. Would we know at like mid afternoon today,

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<v Speaker 1>if Zion Williamson is starting or even active, not a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy scratch for the Pelicans, you'd have indications. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if it's tonight's or tomorrow morning when

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<v Speaker 1>official injury reports come out, but you would have some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mention about being questionable, probable that type of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff comes out today. The Nuggets Pelicans eight o'clock tonight

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<v Speaker 1>on National TV at seven o'clock. You would know, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be on social media somewhere. It would be on

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<v Speaker 1>I think they tweeted out from their media account or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. Nuggets a good game, a good test

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<v Speaker 1>for Zion, an up and down team playing like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people are you know, people were upset on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday that Alvin Gentry pulled Zion out of that game.

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<v Speaker 1>But come on, the guy's coming off a major knee injury.

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<v Speaker 1>He I mean, the Pelicans if they make the playoffs, great,

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<v Speaker 1>but this season's all about getting Zion all the way

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<v Speaker 1>back and get him completely healthy and being ready to

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<v Speaker 1>go for next season. I mean, it's already a win

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<v Speaker 1>to get him out there on the floor. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>about this year. I know they had playoff aspirations to

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<v Speaker 1>start the season, but you already have Brandon Ingram playing

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<v Speaker 1>all star level basketball. You feel more comfortable now than

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<v Speaker 1>you did three months ago about the prospect of paying

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<v Speaker 1>brandon Ingram big time dollars, maybe max level dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>this offseason. So that's a win. Zion comes back, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a win. So even if you finish in the lottery

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<v Speaker 1>once again, you've got the building blocks in place for

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<v Speaker 1>a run next year. Yeah, Pauly, any chance. Unintentionally and unplanned,

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<v Speaker 1>Zion missing the first half of the season gave Brandon

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<v Speaker 1>Ingram a chance to kind of explode. Be the focal

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<v Speaker 1>point Lonzo ball. People not watching every movie makes because

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<v Speaker 1>Zion's not there, could have been a good thing long

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<v Speaker 1>term for the team. Absolutely, I mean long term, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to be concerned long term about the health

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<v Speaker 1>of Zion. We've just never seen a player that plays

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<v Speaker 1>above the rim like Zion with the type of upper

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<v Speaker 1>body weight he puts down on it. So when he

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<v Speaker 1>goes up it all is eventually going to come crashing down.

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<v Speaker 1>And I worry. I know a lot of people around

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<v Speaker 1>the league I talk you worry about the long term

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<v Speaker 1>effects of that. There's only so much you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only so much padding and so much treatment you

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<v Speaker 1>can do that changes or alters the fact that you're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing two hundred and fifty pounds down on that knee.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's something that there's watching, especially this offseason. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're Zion Williamson. I think one of the goals this

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<v Speaker 1>offseason is to slim down considerably. I saw some social

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<v Speaker 1>media stuff, but people surprised that he was the way

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<v Speaker 1>that he was when he came back. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>you can do a lot of cardio when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a knee problem, so he's limited there. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>get into the offseason, I would imagine that a priority

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<v Speaker 1>for the Pelicans is going to have him slim down

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and get down to a more managable

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<v Speaker 1>way so it takes away some of the pressure on

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<v Speaker 1>that knee. But Sim'm back in action tonight and if

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<v Speaker 1>the ratings on ESPN or any kind of indicator, he

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<v Speaker 1>is becoming must see TV right away. There's a reason ESPN, TNT,

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<v Speaker 1>all the major outlets were putting him on that or

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<v Speaker 1>putting the Pelicans on national TV early. He is a

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<v Speaker 1>one man ratings machine, will probably continue to be throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of this season and probably his career. NBA

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<v Speaker 1>All Star starters were announced last night. Not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to quarrel with with the All Stars the Western Conference.

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<v Speaker 1>I was completely fine with how that went. The Eastern Conference.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big Pascal Siakam guy, but because of the

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<v Speaker 1>number of games he played. I probably would have given

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<v Speaker 1>the nod that Jimmy Butler. I'm a media voter in

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<v Speaker 1>all this, and if you're unfamiliar with how NBA starters

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<v Speaker 1>are chosen, it's divided up. It's twenty five percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the media vote, twenty five percent of the player vote,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fan vote account for fifty percent of the voting.

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<v Speaker 1>So I voted for Jimmy Butler because of all he's

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<v Speaker 1>done for the Heat this season, played terrific all year long.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest problem I have Trey Young. Trey Young is

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<v Speaker 1>an All Star starter doesn't make a lot of sense

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<v Speaker 1>to me. He is a terrific scorer, no question about that,

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<v Speaker 1>averaging close to thirty points per game, but he is

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<v Speaker 1>a minus defender to say the least, and his team

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<v Speaker 1>is not good. They have the second worst record in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. They have eleven wins right now. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>to say Trey Young isn't an All Star, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have to stack that up against the other potential starters

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<v Speaker 1>are out there. I voted for Kyle Lowry. Argument against

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Lowry is only he's only played like thirty four games.

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<v Speaker 1>Injuries derailed him early in the season, but he's averaging

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty points. He's a bulldog on both ends of

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. Does that sell? Does that sell in an

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<v Speaker 1>All Star game? It's the All Star Game? And Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Lowry playing serviceable defense and hitting midrange jumpers, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>a very good player, and he gives you a better

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win. But Trey Young is the guy the

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<v Speaker 1>kids watch and model well they do. But is it

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity game or a meritocracy? That's the question. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to say it's just who the fans

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<v Speaker 1>want to play, play great, go back to the fan vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Make that one hundred percent of the voting. At that point,

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<v Speaker 1>Taco Hall might have a chance to get on the

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<v Speaker 1>team all twenty one minutes of games played he's played

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<v Speaker 1>the season. But if you're going to say that it

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<v Speaker 1>should be some form of meritocracy, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you argue with Kyle Lowry being in that position. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how you argue Perloff with Ben Simmons being

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<v Speaker 1>in that position. For me, as a voter, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even consider Trey Young for that second guard spot. Kemba

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<v Speaker 1>Walker was a lock that was gonna happen. He was

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<v Speaker 1>an immortal lock to that first guard spot. Why why

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<v Speaker 1>do you say that? Because, by the way, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the Sixers fan like worth the real that Kemba

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<v Speaker 1>Walker's the Celtics star be he can't beat us. I

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<v Speaker 1>means he's definitely a better player than him, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the Sixers. I was like, that's what. Finally we

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<v Speaker 1>have the Celtics number this year because Kemba's no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just gonna shoot outside. I mean if they beat

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<v Speaker 1>him three times, you know there are three and oh

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<v Speaker 1>this year. And because it's all things Kemba Walker and

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<v Speaker 1>he's a twenty two point a game score. Come on, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you have the Celtic mindset. But I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you right now there are a lot of players in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA is scared sickers, and Kemba Walker ain't one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. I'm trying to figure out what this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not against the grade. Look at the numbers. Ben Simmons

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the best. When Ben Simmons is ad,

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<v Speaker 1>he's clearly one of the best players in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't It doesn't matter if he's an All Star or not.

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<v Speaker 1>He's He's a real factor. Here. Well, by definition, an

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<v Speaker 1>All Star is one of the best players NBA. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like, I don't care if Ben Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Timmans just gotta win a title. The All Star Game

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<v Speaker 1>means nothing here. He's like that kind of player. Kemba

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<v Speaker 1>Walker has been a nice player too, had his career.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be a four seed this year, go out

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<v Speaker 1>in the third round of the playoffs. Great enjoy He's

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<v Speaker 1>he's like a wonderful guy. I always hear that. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like he's like Lebron here, He's like, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Kemba Walker is a no brainer. What did he scored

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two a game? Are you done? Just now? You

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<v Speaker 1>have scored thirty points a game? Isn't You're all? Start

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<v Speaker 1>of stub? Is this a bizarre world? Like painting Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Simmons as this perfect player when there is one glaring

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<v Speaker 1>spotlight of a flaw in his game. He does not

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<v Speaker 1>shoot from the outside, and that's a major problem for Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are they sitting the standings parloff as we speak,

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<v Speaker 1>sixth at the moment of that injuries, Joel, He's played

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one games. It's not like he's missed you know

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<v Speaker 1>Kyrie Irving has been injured, Joel Embiid has not been

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<v Speaker 1>He's been banged up periodically. Let's have a bet right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Who gets farther in the playoffs is seventy six series

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<v Speaker 1>over the self? Which is not the argument, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Sixers should because of all the money they spent this

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<v Speaker 1>off season, because they've got two guys that should be

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<v Speaker 1>considered elite at their respective positions. But if you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make an argument that Ben Simmons is more deserving

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<v Speaker 1>than Kemba Walker to be a start in the All

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<v Speaker 1>Star team, you want fund a single NBA person that

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<v Speaker 1>agrees with you about that. Maybe not the one deserving. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but NBA guys all total group think here. You of

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<v Speaker 1>course you're gonna like a Kemba Walker like I'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>like Ben Kemba Walker is so popular amongst you and

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<v Speaker 1>all your NBA writer friends. I'm not even talking about

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<v Speaker 1>NBA writer friends. We don't have a click like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about NBA scouts and executives and coaches. Kemba Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>easy choice right there. You were just talking in the

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<v Speaker 1>presome medium about how the Warriors should try and get Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that. We'll get to that. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>different thing. Simmons is a fascinating player. He could be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons is averaging sixteen points, eight and a half assists,

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<v Speaker 1>eight rebounds, leading the league, and steals and a block

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<v Speaker 1>a game. So he's doing everything but shooting from the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Kemball Walker is averaging twenty two points, five assists, not

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<v Speaker 1>really doing anything else, and he shoots about thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent from three pointer. Yes, he shoots a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>three that's a very good percentage. By the way, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't do much else. He's not a high volume passer

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<v Speaker 1>and assists. I'm a big playmaker. No, he's not a

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<v Speaker 1>steels guy. But you're saying like the only thing Simmons

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<v Speaker 1>can't do is shoot, Like that's like other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>Missus Lincoln, how is the play right? It's fair. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty big issue. I'm generally anti Simmons. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to give some stand I'm not anti Simmons at all.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I think Simmons is great. I just at

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the season I assumed he would start

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<v Speaker 1>taking like one three pointer, two three pointers. He is

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<v Speaker 1>still the same player when it comes to perimeter shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>And this isn't me talking perloft about it being a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You listen to Elton Brand, who I sat in front

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<v Speaker 1>of on Christmas Day and said Ben. He said Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Simmons needs to shoot. Brett Brown, the coach of the team,

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<v Speaker 1>has effectively said Ben Simmons needs to shoot. Joel Embiide,

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<v Speaker 1>the others star and the team, has said passive aggressively.

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<v Speaker 1>Some guys need to be I'm paraphrasing here outside their

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<v Speaker 1>comfort zone, which is code for Ben Simmons needs to shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a flaw, a major one in his game. And

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm assessing the All Star roster and who should

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<v Speaker 1>be a starter at that spot, Kyle Lowry has done

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more than not a lot more, done more

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<v Speaker 1>than Ben Simmons, and I think a lot more, frankly

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<v Speaker 1>than Trey Young. Trey Young is a great scorer, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched him defensively. There are times when it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like he's indifferent out there on the defensive end. And

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<v Speaker 1>that team, I know they've been banged up by injuries

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<v Speaker 1>the suspension to John Collins, but they have eleven wins.

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<v Speaker 1>So I also factor in the ability to impact winning,

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<v Speaker 1>which Trey Young hasn't done for Atlanta team that overall

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<v Speaker 1>has underachieved this year. Yeah, but then have him in

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<v Speaker 1>the Skills Challenge in the in the thief point, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying he's done an All Star. He is an

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<v Speaker 1>All Star. Ben Simmons an All Star. You're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the top ten players in this league. I don't look

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<v Speaker 1>at Trey Young as being a top ten player in

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<v Speaker 1>this league. Is the entertainment factor part of this, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, like Trey Yeah, we all want to see

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Young on this type of glass. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how exactly that matters. No, you know what, where it

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<v Speaker 1>matters and why? What? I wonder if it was a

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<v Speaker 1>factor as people were voting, not necessarily the fan votes,

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<v Speaker 1>because Trey Young was an incredibly entertaining player. He is

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<v Speaker 1>Steph Curry light playing in Atlanta. But narratives matter, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the narratives you're gonna get an All

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<v Speaker 1>Star weekend is oh, look, on one side of the

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<v Speaker 1>ledger is Luca Donchet. On the other side, it's Trey Young.

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<v Speaker 1>The two guys that were swapped for each other undraft night,

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<v Speaker 1>the two guys that are inextricably linked in their careers.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get that. Maybe that narrative impacted some of

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<v Speaker 1>the media voting. I'd like to think not, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, like I was so torn between Simmons and

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Lowry Matt Crowdshores. Did I put it out there

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<v Speaker 1>to about six or seven NBA types, coaches, scouts, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>All but one came back with Kyle Lowry. They all

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<v Speaker 1>said Lory impacts winning more is more. It just does

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<v Speaker 1>more for his team right now, on a better team

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<v Speaker 1>right now than Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons, If you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>the which player would I draft or which guy would

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<v Speaker 1>I take the next ten years? Ben Simmons far and

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<v Speaker 1>away great player, But Kyle Lowry for this half season,

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<v Speaker 1>which what it should matter is is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, one last question, would you mix up East

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<v Speaker 1>and West if you could just like just do like

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<v Speaker 1>an all Star team regardless of conference, because it sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like the West has better, something better. Well that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they do, Like they know what I'm saying, Like in

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<v Speaker 1>the voting, like you, Oh yeah, I think you need

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<v Speaker 1>to have a balance in terms of where the players

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<v Speaker 1>come from. Okay, but I like the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>can mix and match Team Lebron, team Jannis. All that

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to talk about something Jimmy Garoppolo said

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<v Speaker 1>recently that resonated with me as a having an NBA

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<v Speaker 1>on Serena Williams bowed out in the Australian Open, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about the NC double as I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you want to call an attempt to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Arguments having early continued, You're in the break by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Lowry versus Ben Simmons and by the way, just

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<v Speaker 1>quickly parloff. Kyle Lowry's from Philadelphia, so I'm not exactly

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<v Speaker 1>sure like where your allegiances are pivoting too. I love

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<v Speaker 1>him as a dude, but and he's been great in

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple playoffs, but he was famous early in

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<v Speaker 1>his career for struggling in the playoffs. I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was that guy, and you're talking about a playoff. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>playoff players and clutch players is a big factor of this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're having an argument about this season. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this season Kyle Lowry all Star deserving. We'll get back

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<v Speaker 1>to that though a little bit later. I kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys get the fifth fight. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to explain the management. What was the fight over. We're

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Lowry's skills as a shooter and pearlsman after me

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<v Speaker 1>all morning I got in. He says, like you were

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<v Speaker 1>in those sneakers? How did I play basketball? The players

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<v Speaker 1>you and me team up against Paul and Seaton somehow

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to lose. And I say, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get him this time. And you showed up

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<v Speaker 1>where boat shooes, like, how are we going to play

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<v Speaker 1>some hoops here? I can't play against Pauli's cheap shot,

0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Like he's just too overly physical for pickup games. You're

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<v Speaker 1>like that guy at the why then I'm not very coordinated,

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<v Speaker 1>so I like bump into people exactly Potentially something that

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<v Speaker 1>caught my eye. Yesterday, Mike Florio Pro Football Talk made

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<v Speaker 1>some news at least took over social media for a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>where at least, according to the aggregations of Mike Florio,

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<v Speaker 1>he suggested that the best strategy for the forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>ers would be to take a cheap shot at Patrick Maholey.

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<v Speaker 1>We knock him out of the game by going low,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, any possible way of getting him out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll be thinking, what did Mike Florio actually say

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<v Speaker 1>during this that sparked this whole debate, And here's the clip.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be careful here because I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting that they try to knock him out of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what I'm saying. But at a certain point,

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<v Speaker 1>you trade the risk of fifteen yards if you can

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<v Speaker 1>send a message and football is still a physical, violent game.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can hit him, even if it's close to

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline, even if he's maybe started into his slide

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<v Speaker 1>when the championship is riding on it, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a different analysis. And yet we may give up fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>yards or half the distance to the goal line. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing, Peter. If somebody had blown up Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes inside the five. Okay, it goes from the four

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<v Speaker 1>to the two. Big deal. So yet, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that that should be part of the deliberate effort. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl is riding on it, and if this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's gonna think that he can just run through the

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<v Speaker 1>defense without any physical consequence, they needed to dispel him

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<v Speaker 1>of that notion the first time he tries. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of is saying knock him out of the

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<v Speaker 1>game with that comment. I mean it's I'm not saying,

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<v Speaker 1>hit him with a cheap shot, but if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance near the sideline, they hit him late, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go and take it. That sounds it's not chapter

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<v Speaker 1>in verse, but sounds pretty clear to me. Paul two days.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you play the first five seconds of that clip again.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be careful here because I'm not suggesting

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<v Speaker 1>that they try to knock him out of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>But then he goes on to completely suggest that they

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<v Speaker 1>try to knock him out of the game when they

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<v Speaker 1>have the opportunity too. So if you think he just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh the ball, take that one extra step and worry,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're not gonna be fined in the game. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be suspended in the game. It's worth that

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen yarder. So he had suggested they do a little

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<v Speaker 1>extra to take him out of the game. Did Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Florio just put a bounty on Patrick maho I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with Florio saying, though, if the best way to win

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<v Speaker 1>the Super bowls for Patrick Mahomes not to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying, don't tell your defensive players that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>give them ten thousand dollars for knocking Patrick Mahomes out

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. But if a check winds up under

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<v Speaker 1>your door on the Monday morning after the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it could happen there. Yeah, for se But

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<v Speaker 1>not only was he saying about the sideline, he also

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<v Speaker 1>said even if he's about to start his slide, he

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<v Speaker 1>threw that word into the two examples where it would

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<v Speaker 1>be borderline illegal to put him out. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to win the Super Bowl, Like, that's my other question.

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<v Speaker 1>If you if you put a nice pop in Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if it's legal, it's legal hit. But if

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<v Speaker 1>that happened early in the game and the forty nine winning,

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.160
<v Speaker 1>do you want to have that forever? Yeah, you won,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll never know what really would have happened because

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:11.959
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes was playing in the whole game. So you're basically

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<v Speaker 1>saying to take the what was it mo Lewis hit

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<v Speaker 1>true Bledsoe back in the day, to take that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hit on Patrick Mahomes, if it's there legal, I

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:25.879
<v Speaker 1>get it, but even quasi legal, Seaton, that's uh that.

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<v Speaker 1>It just sounds like he's saying but he's saying. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not saying, well, I mean he's not even like a lawyer. Yeah,

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.479
<v Speaker 1>they were like by trade. I'm pretty sure he's a lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>and like any statement like that would be torn the

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<v Speaker 1>thread rum. Yeah, I'm not saying, but I am saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he gave himself some wiggle room by saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Look I said at the top of this, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying you go for him and trying to knock him

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<v Speaker 1>out of the game. But if he kind of makes

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<v Speaker 1>himself available, knock with one toe on the sideline, drill him,

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<v Speaker 1>knock him out of the game. He debunks his own preface,

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<v Speaker 1>like he prefaces his him like, oh, you don't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but but you do if you get the chance. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be careful here. Uh no, No, you're it

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 1>was like the second string linebacker. You set out there

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<v Speaker 1>just to go out, just lay the batchot balls, bad homes,

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.199
<v Speaker 1>the running back towards the huddle, and you come up

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<v Speaker 1>to him, just nail him. Yeah, for love, I related

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<v Speaker 1>to acting, by the way, like this is such a

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<v Speaker 1>controversial statement by Floyo. Like one hundred years of the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL history. For ninety seven years, this was gospel. You

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<v Speaker 1>take out you killed the expression, you killed the head

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:19.159
<v Speaker 1>of the dragon, and you kill a team. They've been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to knock out quarterbacks always. Yeah, but illegally. Oh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>a hind thousand percent. Oh my god. Yeah. I mean, well,

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the NFL didn't find to Davion Clowney and they opened

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<v Speaker 1>the door to this. I mean that was I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they took I didn't say it's an Eagles fan, but

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<v Speaker 1>like listen, when they didn't flag to Davion Clowny for

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<v Speaker 1>knocking out wins and they didn't find him, then Floyer

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely right. Of course you want to take out

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<v Speaker 1>the homes. Yeah, Paul, and I could see what he's

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<v Speaker 1>saying in the first quarter of a game where if

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<v Speaker 1>you get fined for this, the fine doesn't matter. If

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<v Speaker 1>you get suspended. The suspension doesn't matter because it could

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<v Speaker 1>be going in the next season. If this is October,

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<v Speaker 1>you may not take that cheap shot on the quarterback

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>because you're not desperately trying to win an October game.

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<v Speaker 1>But the first quarter of the Super Bowl, third down,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a free shot. May not get too many

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 1>free shots. In Mahomes, you may take an extra step.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay if I get the flag, I get the flag,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I knock him out of it, you make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Catch some heat for knocking him out, but ten years

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<v Speaker 1>for now you may have the ring from it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Patrick Mahomes making any appearances on Flora's radio

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<v Speaker 1>show anytime soon. I don't think it's anti Mahomes. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's like a strategy that you never speak about. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if they could do this in basketball, they

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<v Speaker 1>do it. They don't really have a cat you can

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<v Speaker 1>do in basketball, but the chief shots in basketball is

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<v Speaker 1>so much more over. There's not that type of collision.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh but let's say you started the seven game playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>in Lebron versus Lebron in his prime, and you could

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<v Speaker 1>take a shot and you knew he may not come

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<v Speaker 1>come back from this would I do it. Yeah, you would,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's seven game series, he's gone, it's over. I

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>would argue it's even easier though, to do in basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>You can take a swing at the guy's head. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw it happen recently, flagran elbow, yeah, or even though

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>when I forget who just did it, they got fined

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<v Speaker 1>for it. But when a guy goes up for a layup,

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<v Speaker 1>Catavio's call. Will Pope got hit with the Lakers, and

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<v Speaker 1>you take a swing at the guy's head, pretending to

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<v Speaker 1>go for the ball, like, oh, I'm trying to swipe

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.400
<v Speaker 1>at the ball, but it makes contact with the head.

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.159
<v Speaker 1>You can be real physical with guys going to the

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<v Speaker 1>basket and knock them down hard. I think it's even

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<v Speaker 1>easier in borderline not legal, but easier to get away

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<v Speaker 1>with in the NBA. And there's in football, yeah, Paul.

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>But the quarterback position is the one guy in the

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>football field who is unprotected. Often during the game, he's

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:24.440
<v Speaker 1>standing there and you could trip into him. You could

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<v Speaker 1>take one extra step and you may avoid the flag,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's worth the risk. Unprotected but really protected by

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<v Speaker 1>the referees too, So you do have to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and take a making shot of them

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>runner onund the sideline. So all right, that's that's Gloria

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<v Speaker 1>making up putting a bounty on Patrick Holmes. That's something

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<v Speaker 1>worth watching those Super Bowls Sunday. Can we briefly just

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what the nc DOABLEA did this? Mark Emirtt statement,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get into this for a second here. Mark Emirtt,

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<v Speaker 1>the head of the ncable A, came out and is

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<v Speaker 1>in discussing the idea of paying players. He had some

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<v Speaker 1>extended comments that I swear to God, PAULI, I've read

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<v Speaker 1>them three times. I still am not exactly sure what

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>he's saying with these comments. By yeah, you're just kind

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>of reading it in like, but I have a headache.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna move on to something else, and I

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>guess maybe we'll forget about all that. But I guess

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:16.359
<v Speaker 1>what he's saying is that they're going to find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to make it legal for players to cash in

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<v Speaker 1>on their own likeness. That seems to be the trend

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the NCAA is going. Is that I'm like reading

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<v Speaker 1>that right? Yeah. Mark Emirates did a State of College

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<v Speaker 1>Sports address at the NSTA Convention on Thursday, and he

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<v Speaker 1>continued to say that the NSA is open to players

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>controlling their likenesses and getting paid outside the building for

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>hurtain things. This goes back to that lawsuit in California

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 1>that sued to give players a chance to control their likeness.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing here that not a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Mark Emirate's plan or his acceptance of this plan,

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<v Speaker 1>will ensure that the NSA never has to pay players. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so, let's say to a Takavalla for the

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 1>for Alabama is on the team. Alabama's not paying him.

0:27:58.480 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>The NSA is not paying him. But if he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to sign autographs at the local mall for ten grand

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:04.479
<v Speaker 1>a pop, he would be able to do that. What

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 1>that does is gives the illusion that players are being

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<v Speaker 1>paid and the NA gets to keep all the money.

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>The networks get to keep all the money, and the

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>athletic departments get to keep all the money. So this

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>is Mark Emmerth laughing all the way to the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>If this gets pushed through and people avoid actually sharing

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the pie, I would like to see the NA take

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>some of that money and reinvest it into both the

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>programs that are making that money and in some of

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the players via the you know this meal cards extended.

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe let them travel. Oh sorry, sorry about that. You

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>said take their profits and reinvest it in the players welfare.

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry about that. Does that? Oh I am shot?

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Did I make a pun? I thought you were making

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<v Speaker 1>a joke. No, no, no, I'm just saying I'd like

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to see them do that. But in lieu of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no problem with this idea in general. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's it only affects a small amount of players.

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>At the same time, there's only a small amount of

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<v Speaker 1>players that are driving this type of revenue. The top

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks are driving the revenue, the top wide receivers, maybe

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.239
<v Speaker 1>the top defensive players on some teams are driving this

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>type of revenue. I think it just gets really complicated

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>when you take that pie, cut out a slice of

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<v Speaker 1>it for players, and then trying to divvy it up

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<v Speaker 1>amongst the number of players, most of whom do not

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>have an impact on the overall revenue. And I know

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>people hate to hear this, but for a large, a

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 1>vast majority of players playing college sports, the fact that

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>they get that free education actually counts for something. It's

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>real money. At these private schools and I'll just use

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Boston College an example. You're talking about tuition in excess

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>of fifty thousand dollars per year. That's not nothing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying it should be the end all be all,

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>But if you are a player that has the ability

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to make money off your likeness, by all means, go

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>out there and do it. But the idea that players

0:29:56.560 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>should get like a minimum wage, or there should be

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>money distributed amongst each one equally, it just doesn't make

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense to me, Paul, It just don't.

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't track with me. I look at a couple

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>of ways, because the idea of controlling your likeness and

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>getting paid to sign autographs is something they should have

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the right to do. If you had that kind of

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>star power, you should be able to cash in. And

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>there's a process where you fill a paperwork, you pay taxes,

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and the school knows and the NSA knows, do you

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>go to the local mall and sign autographs. But let's

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>say you play football at Michigan and you're not the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the starting tight end, and you're not getting paid anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one's offering you anything to sign autographs. I

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<v Speaker 1>would if I were that player, I'd rather have minimum

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>wage for my twenty five hours a week working for

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the football team. I worked at the school paper in college.

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I got minimum wage to practice my craft, and our

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>school paper made money. We were a profitable school paper

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>at Southern Illinois, so I shared in those profits to

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>a point. And you know they always say players complaining

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>we don't have any money. We don't have the opportunity

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>to work during the season, we can't have side jobs.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>If you give them all minimum wage, you share the pie,

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 1>but you cap it. If you're the NSA, you capit.

0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>If through the schools at minimum wage, to say take

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>it or leave it? Did you pay tuition at Southern? Yeah?

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get a schulish. Would you have rather had

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>minimum wage or free tuition? Free tuition? Okay, but I

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>know what you're saying. My school my school paper wasn't

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>making forty million dollars a year in selling advertisements to

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Pizza Place. Neither's the backup offensive lineman not driving that revenue.

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Michigan football is the backup offensive lineman is driving that

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>type of revenue? Or is Jim Harbaugh and the quarterback

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and the stars driving that revenue? How many players run

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>an active or in a college football rot for ninety something,

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>but for working for the football team, to ask for

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<v Speaker 1>minimum wage seems at the very least fair to get.

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>You do get some money, you cannot complain. You don't

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>have money to eat on the weekends or travel home

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>for your family, and you're sharing in the pie. And

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>if d n TA could cap it at minimum wage

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and signed like a twenty year deal, they never have

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>to pay any more than that, that would be a score. Yeah, Eden, Plus,

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think and this isn't to diminish anybody's what

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>they're doing, right, But the say the sports beat writer

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>for the Daily Faverian, you know, his work day doesn't

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>look the same as quite even as the backup lineman

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>on a team or a practice squad member or something

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>like that. The effort and the what they have to

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>do on a weekly basis is grossly different. Where one

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>guy is standing on the sidelines watching and then writing

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>about it and the other guy's actually doing it and

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>getting the crap beat out of him every day. Give

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>him the minimum wage isn't even that much money, right,

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not even that much money. So give him a

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 1>little walking around money. So that then at least you

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>can say, if you're still taking that hundred dollar handshake,

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>now it's on you, whereas now it's on the system

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>where they don't have enough money to just have, you know,

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>for their effort. I get the scholarship thing, I get

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>a free education. I understand that. But at the end

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>of the day, people still want a little money in

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>their pocket, and there's nothing wrong with giving the minimum wage.

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Is the backup kicker working as hard? Is that college reporter? Probably?

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Probably not? Probably How if he's not playing, how's he

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>working harder? I mean, I agree with you, Like if

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you have a starting offensive line in the center out

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>there going one hundred plus snaps, I get that. The

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>backup kicker who's just kind of hanging out there on

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>the sideline waiting to see if the first drink kicker

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>gets hurt, he's not working as hard. He's potentially putting

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>himself at more risk. But I mean, I think that

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>we can with the roster that large, we can whittle

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it down to the one guy that's like where told

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you now, nobody gets anything. We can play that game

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>if you really want to. But I bet there's a

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 1>bunch of people working for the local school paper that

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>don't do that much work, that are probably still getting

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>minimum wage. I'm not even sure that does every school

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>paper pay out like, I don't know if that's true.

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Pallie did, but I mean he was working for a

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>boondoggle out there and Silven Illinois, maybe the Daily Egyptian.

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>We were crushing it. We're making money, handed a big

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>time revenue, winning awards out coming him there. I don't know.

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that letting players get paid off their own

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>likeness is a step in the right direction at least,

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>so you make that step first, and then it just

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>gets real complicated when you try to figure everything else out.

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Does minimum wage matter that? Like, what are you're paying

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>forty hours a week? What are we doing from howny

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>hours week? College athletes they're capped at twenty hours of

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 1>practice and then they have travel in game time. So

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>let's say it was twenty five hours a week for

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a football player at Michigan and minimum wage, I don't

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>know what it is. Is Is it it's the federal fifteen dollars, Okay,

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>that's that's four hundred plus dollars a week in college.

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I would have known what to do with four hundred

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 1>dollars a week as far as eating and drinking and

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>buying a new pair of shoes or traveling home four

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 1>bucks a week. That's nuts. That's four hundred beers with

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>no tip. Federal minimum wage is seven dollars and twenty

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>five cents. Okay, so I was way off on that one,

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>way off, way off. All right, Well then it's even lower.

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>But does that make that much of a difference. Then

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you're talking half that half of what we just talked about.

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>So two hundred plus dollars that makes a major difference.

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 1>That's I would say to a college athlete if you

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>couldn't use the complaint, um, we're not sharing at all

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:56.879
<v Speaker 1>in the profits. Now you're not getting your fair wags

0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>of the profits. But you can't say I can't eat well,

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a different discussion. I don't think you

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>should be. I don't think any college athlete should ever

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>be in a position where they can't eat. And that's

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>where that whole meal card stuff comes in. We were

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>talking about this earlier. Shabaz Napier years ago was talking

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 1>briefly about how we had trouble eating, getting enough, having

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>enough money on his meal card on campus at Yukon.

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>That should never happen to any college athlete, from the

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback on the football team to the fourth string

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>diver on the diving team. That should not be the case.

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Us have unlimited food or unlimited meal card deed off.

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I also agree that as part of it, maybe a

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 1>new arrangement, you have built in travel for these guys,

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 1>whether it's twice a year for holidays, they are given

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>free tickets to fly with for them and somebody else

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>to fly wherever they need to go for the holiday.

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.399
<v Speaker 1>There are things you can do that don't involve paying

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 1>players used when I was in college, I would go

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>tell my plasma twice a week for like fifty bucks

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 1>and I've made that last a hell of a long time.

0:35:56.400 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that money that minimum wage absolutely and your

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>plasma got refused. You know what I mean? Well, they

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>did eventually turn off the uh the fountain there. I like, anybuddy,

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you need to chill out. I d THEO. I know

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 1>the both flex once in college, you did? I know

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the both flex ones in college. That's a big ticket item.

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>It was. I was a little in talk kidded at

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>the time, and then I thought it was a good

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 1>idea to have a workout piece of workout equipment in

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>my off campus. That's one of those two AM purchases.

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Not a good thing. And the cod two at the time,

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I think I showed the door. It's like, how much

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>did you use it? No? I sent it back. It

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>was it doesn't fit in the college person's department. Thank

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 1>you both both Flex. But that was a big thing

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>back in the day. Everyone the both Flex all right.

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:40.280
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0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>any kind of opinion on how to deal with paying

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.320
<v Speaker 1>college athletes. I'd love to hear. We have a difference

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>of opinion here on set. I think that paying guys

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:52.800
<v Speaker 1>for their likeness is enough, especially when you factor in

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the scholarship for so many of these players, and I

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>wage something Paul, he suggested, maybe some other ideas are

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<v Speaker 1>not quite in basketball fall. I think I'm a candidate

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<v Speaker 1>now to play in your league BOATBALLI the au AA. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>is that coming back? I've heard good things year two.

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<v Speaker 1>The fans don't want it where we may bring it back?

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<v Speaker 1>it's back back by unpopular demand. Yeah, yes, yes, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to get two people to play though, right as teammates. Yep, yeah,

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:09.879
<v Speaker 1>do you have a couple of ringers? I do? Well, Well,

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.360
<v Speaker 1>use that word interesting. I'd like to get Bill Simmons

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<v Speaker 1>on my team as a potential. Is even a game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a little bit of game, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have a Boston connection there. Also bring a

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<v Speaker 1>female into the mixed staracoustat Yes, network does my podcast

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<v Speaker 1>a lot the basketball player to Paul very good players.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, she's probably the best part of on the

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:31.280
<v Speaker 1>player of the war for most of these games. So wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to pretty heavy, is it? I mean? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for love, do see Kobe's comment that Diana THROSSI could

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 1>be in the NBA. Now, yeah, I don't know what

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to make of all that. Like, Danas Ross is a

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 1>great women's player, They're the greatest woman's player of all time,

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:50.920
<v Speaker 1>at least in the discussion. But playing in the NBA, like,

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that's just a that that's a bridge too far for

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 1>me to buy it. That it's just a different level

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 1>of athleticism, a different level. I mean, some of the

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 1>great men's college basketball players don't pay out in the NBA.

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Like think about Jimmer for dead. Oh yeah, how great

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>he was in men's college basketball, could not make it

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, largely because he couldn't play defense at

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that level. As excellent as Diana Tarassi is, could she

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 1>defend any of the top tier guards in the NBA.

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 1>It's not sexist, it's just sort of pointing out physical facts. Yeah,

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 1>no offense to Jimmer, but I might take Diana Tarassi

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and that one on one game. Really, I mean, Jim,

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 1>he was got some game. He she could ball though, Yeah, absolutely,

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 1>But are we forgetting how good Jimmer was at BYU?

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Like he was awesome, awesome, awesome, he turned He put

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.359
<v Speaker 1>by U basketball on the map for a long time

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>because of how he played out there. And he was

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 1>a lottery pick. So Sacramento Kings, of course, and they

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 1>have a brutal track record of drafting. But uh a

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 1>lottery picking one lest yea pa. But I look at

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>someone like Diana Tarassi, and I look at someone like

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul who probably can't get rim. He's definitely not fast.

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't dunked in a decade to his own admission.

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like his game is built off playing

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>against you, working the angles, working the things like that,

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and which is exactly what a person like Dana Arrossi does.

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>She does not. I think there are similar players in

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:22.359
<v Speaker 1>a weird way. I don't think. Look, I don't believe

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Diana Tarrossi offensively could play at NBA level. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>defensively she can not play at NDA level. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>that is what knocked Jimmer Fredette out of the league.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what knocks so many players at that position out

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<v Speaker 1>of the league. They can't defend at NBA level, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't defend, you can't be on the floor, simple as that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know why Kobe said something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of apples and orangines when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>playing at this level. All Right, a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>college football news at orsern LSU. They've agreed to a

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<v Speaker 1>six year contract extension valued and more than forty two

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars at accord to Bruce Feldman, college football reporter.

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<v Speaker 1>Or z Heron is forty and nine since taking over

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<v Speaker 1>at LSU, when eleven and one in his last twelve

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<v Speaker 1>games against top ten o points. Right, hear news like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think about what was USC thinking letting this

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<v Speaker 1>guy go, Like, clearly, look, he's a better fit probably

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<v Speaker 1>at LSU. Like his demeanor, the accent, all those things

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fit into the Louisiana landscape. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that clearly can recruit, that clearly connects with players,

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<v Speaker 1>that obviously knows how to coach. Based on what we

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<v Speaker 1>saw in the National Championship game, USC right now is fumbling.

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<v Speaker 1>They're looking around wondering, you know, how long is Clay

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<v Speaker 1>Hell can gonna last next year. They brought him back.

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<v Speaker 1>The program internally is a mess. Here. You have that

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<v Speaker 1>orser On now six years, forty two million dollars. I'm honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised that's that short. Like these college football contracts,

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<v Speaker 1>they're almost lifetime deals when you get to the same

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<v Speaker 1>level that as Orison is probably has a job at

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<v Speaker 1>LSU for life based on what he did there. USC

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<v Speaker 1>just let him walk away because they didn't think he

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<v Speaker 1>was a USC type of guy. I don't get that, Paulli.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fascinating though what you said earlier. He seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be LSU football. Like if you were going to make

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<v Speaker 1>a movie about Louisiana State football, you would create a

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<v Speaker 1>character who looked and talked and acted like at Oseron,

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<v Speaker 1>and it fits perfectly central casting. He's just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a cut out of a LSU type coach fixture. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's good for at Ogeron though, I mean after, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he was pretty broken up about being let go

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<v Speaker 1>by LSU. Lands right on his feet at at like

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<v Speaker 1>a by USA leans rights an LSU when winds up

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<v Speaker 1>getting that sixty year, forty two million dollars deal, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Garoppolo such on this Real Quick Jimmy Garoppolo Quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>Everything for forty nine ers, talking about his motivation and

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<v Speaker 1>what's getting him to this point. He had us some

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<v Speaker 1>comments about that recently. Here's what he said. We're a

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<v Speaker 1>really good team, but we're not a great team yet

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<v Speaker 1>and we shouldn't be. We're just now being put together

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<v Speaker 1>in September, and we're a really good audio difficulties a voice.

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<v Speaker 1>He sounds like someone I know, Canno. Can't place it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, basketball player Los Angeles Lakers, you see in

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<v Speaker 1>New York recently? Did we get that comment live? Was

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<v Speaker 1>that we have a taper quod there taking his talents

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<v Speaker 1>to the Superman stuttering problem to I was right by

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<v Speaker 1>Barkleys last night. Didn't go in though Garroccolo said some

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<v Speaker 1>things we'll get to you in the next hour. Age

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<v Speaker 1>war Janowski, Senior NBA in sider for ESPN. He'll join

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<v Speaker 1>the program as well. Stick around. They have Packard show

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