Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of The Clay Travis
Speaker 2: and Buck Sexton Show. Some quick housekeeping. Buck is back,
Speaker 2: as in I'm normal today. Yesterday was a bit of
Speaker 2: a challenge. I appreciate all of you rolling with me.
Speaker 2: Had to hydrate in the breaks and it was a
Speaker 2: little touch and go. But I'm back, I'm healthy, ready
Speaker 2: to rock and play. Is having a great time with
Speaker 2: his family. He's on vacation. I think he's in Disney
Speaker 2: World or one of those places. I'm not sure where
Speaker 2: he is today, but we're all hoping he's having a
Speaker 2: great time with the fam. He'll be back with us,
Speaker 2: as we know, a week from tomorrow. So it's just
Speaker 2: going to be me informing you, entertaining you, rolling with
Speaker 2: you here for a week. So looking forward to getting
Speaker 2: to chat with you. All the calls, the talkbacks, we
Speaker 2: love them. Both. Give us light us up on those
Speaker 2: lines and send those talkbacks. Let's lay out where we're
Speaker 2: going today on the show real quick. So you know,
Speaker 2: some stuff coming out on the FBI and there's a
Speaker 2: little bit of pushback I think from some people on
Speaker 2: the right, our Director Patel and Deputy Director bon Gino
Speaker 2: moving fast enough? Are they doing the things? I was
Speaker 2: on Fox earlier this morning with Dana Perino, who's always
Speaker 2: so lovely, like such a nice person and very good broadcaster,
Speaker 2: and we were talking about this issue. I want to
Speaker 2: address it a bit because I think that there's a
Speaker 2: little bit of expectations management that our side should have.
Speaker 2: Not in terms of result, no, no, we all agree
Speaker 2: on the results, but in terms of timing, we need
Speaker 2: to give the people the time that they need. Speaking
Speaker 2: of which, Elon has said that his time is a
Speaker 2: special government employee has come to a conclusion. He put
Speaker 2: this out on x the platform that he owns, which
Speaker 2: now is actually a free speech platform. As my scheduled
Speaker 2: time as a special government employee comes to an end,
Speaker 2: I would like to thank President Trump for the opportunity
Speaker 2: to reduce wasteful spending. The DOGE mission will only strengthen
Speaker 2: over time as it becomes a way of life throughout
Speaker 2: the government. So Elon is going to go back to
Speaker 2: being the most important single CEO. And you know business,
Speaker 2: I don't like the term thought leader right because it's
Speaker 2: like the thought leader, I mean the guy is a
Speaker 2: thought leader, but I don't like to use that term.
Speaker 2: But he's going to go back to doing the full
Speaker 2: Elon routine, which is going to be I think great
Speaker 2: for SpaceX, for Tesla, for X, for Boring Company, for
Speaker 2: all the things that he has involved in. So this
Speaker 2: is where we get into a little bit speaking of
Speaker 2: expectations management of they've done what they could do. He
Speaker 2: did not unilaterally and this was known all along. He
Speaker 2: does not unilaterally have the authority the power. Doge didn't
Speaker 2: have to just say these cuts are going into effect
Speaker 2: money that Congress has appropriated. If Congress says this, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, this program for fiscal year twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: has ten million dollars or ten billion dollars, Doge couldn't
Speaker 2: just come along and say, yeah, they don't have ten
Speaker 2: billion dollars anymore. But this is where recisions come in.
Speaker 2: This also goes to our conversations over the Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 2: There's been a little bit of pushback here, including from
Speaker 2: some of the most pro Trump voices you will find
Speaker 2: in the Senate and just in general, who are saying, hey, Trump,
Speaker 2: I love you with all respect, You're doing great things.
Speaker 2: We all get that this isn't like some never trumpy
Speaker 2: wine fest. You think, eh, but like and I like
Speaker 2: the way you said it. No, that's for libs, that's
Speaker 2: for fake Republicans. This is just about Okay, it's halftime.
Speaker 2: It's not even halftime, to be clear, it's early. It's
Speaker 2: a time out in the first quarter of this administration,
Speaker 2: and we're all huddled together and some of us are saying, Hey, Trump,
Speaker 2: thank you for being the quarterback. But you know, can
Speaker 2: you hit that guy on the button hook? Clay would
Speaker 2: be proud by the way. I'm just gonna say, look
Speaker 2: at that button hook. But yeah, you know what I'm
Speaker 2: saying that that's the mentality, or rather that's the the
Speaker 2: rationale behind some of the pushback on this from people
Speaker 2: like Senator Ron Johnson, people like Senator Ran Paul. They're
Speaker 2: on board for the mission, but they want to shape this.
Speaker 2: And this is why it goes to the Senate. I
Speaker 2: bring it up because you know, yesterday I said we
Speaker 2: can't let the perfect of the enemy of the good.
Speaker 2: And I think I'm trying to so many administrations said
Speaker 2: it later that day. I'm trying to remember. I don't
Speaker 2: want to misquote, but somebody I heard somebody else say it,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. They listened to
Speaker 2: this show. So I'm happy to happy to help, happy
Speaker 2: to help. And if that means I throw around a
Speaker 2: cliche that somebody else will have in their head later, great.
Speaker 2: But we've talked about the process and Steven Miller. I
Speaker 2: read his post on the big beautiful Bill still in process,
Speaker 2: and there are big things in this bill that will
Speaker 2: affect us, that will affect your family budget, that will
Speaker 2: affect the business that you own or that you work
Speaker 2: for in your town. I mean, there's this real stuff, right.
Speaker 2: This isn't sitting around arguing about the naming of the
Speaker 2: next post office in Topeka. No offense Topeka. But this
Speaker 2: is about big economic issue, structural issues, and setting the
Speaker 2: economy on a footing that will allow it to get
Speaker 2: to the best possible places, right, I mean tremendous prosperity,
Speaker 2: which I'm very confident in. You. I have not been
Speaker 2: gloom and doom about the Trump economy since he won
Speaker 2: that election for one moment, for one day, even when oh,
Speaker 2: the Trump procession is here, all the market is dropped.
Speaker 2: You can go back and listen to those shows we're
Speaker 2: like I kept saying, he knows what he's doing. Everyone
Speaker 2: just who's freaking out needs to as I believe they
Speaker 2: would say here in South Florida, tranquilo. Everyone needs to
Speaker 2: calm down. It's fine, okay, nothing terrible's happened. He knows
Speaker 2: what he's doing. Part of the complaints about the big
Speaker 2: beautiful bill, though, have been on where is where are
Speaker 2: the cuts? Where is DOGE and the ethos of DOGE
Speaker 2: being made real? And this is where you have OMB
Speaker 2: Director Russell Vaught, who is on the Cudlow Show, saying
Speaker 2: that yes, in fact, the administration is sending a recisions
Speaker 2: package to Congress. Let's hear it from the OMB director himself,
Speaker 2: play for I can.
Speaker 3: We'll be sending that up on Monday or Tuesday, whenever
Speaker 3: the House is back in session. They will get our
Speaker 3: first Decisions bill. And again this has been we're proposed,
Speaker 3: and we've talked about it. We want to make sure
Speaker 3: that Congress passes its first recisions bill, including the DOGE,
Speaker 3: and we will send more if they pass it.
Speaker 2: And so this is the first one is Foreign Aid.
Speaker 3: USAID cuts many of the waste and garbage that was
Speaker 3: funding not only wasteful but hurting our foreign policy. But
Speaker 3: also the Corporation for Public Broadcasting at NPR will be
Speaker 3: sending that up. And we're working with Congress and we've
Speaker 3: had good conversations to make sure that they knew what
Speaker 3: was coming. They had some input is to changes that
Speaker 3: could be made to make it something that could pass
Speaker 3: the House, and we're excited for that to occur next week.
Speaker 2: There you have it. I said, hold on a second,
Speaker 2: where are the doge cuts in the big beautiful bill.
Speaker 2: And Stephen Miller, who understands this process as well as
Speaker 2: anybody because he is look, he is at the center
Speaker 2: of what's going on in this White House. He is
Speaker 2: absolutely dialed in and he explained it to everybody, and
Speaker 2: he said, look, this is how it has to happen
Speaker 2: within the system. And let's be honest, even if you
Speaker 2: follow government and politics for a living, some of this
Speaker 2: stuff unless you I'll tell you this, some members of
Speaker 2: Congress don't even know this stuff that well. Their staff
Speaker 2: members do. Their staffers do, and they brief them on it,
Speaker 2: but they're like, wait, I gotta do that. The who's
Speaker 2: a what's it here? How does this work? Steven Miller
Speaker 2: came out and said here is what has to happen
Speaker 2: for the cuts to become real and final or to
Speaker 2: come to fruition. And now that process has gone to
Speaker 2: the next step. And now you'll see, Okay, does usaid,
Speaker 2: does the budget? Does Congress do what it's supposed to do?
Speaker 2: Does PBS get its government funding cut? I have I
Speaker 2: think the most perfect argument about this of anybody or
Speaker 2: anyone else is welcome to the bar. But I like to
Speaker 2: make arguments that other people can borrow them. That's fine.
Speaker 2: I just want the truth to win. But PBS and
Speaker 2: anybody else who is getting straight up government funding as
Speaker 2: a media entity, they cannot claim simultaneously, oh, we don't
Speaker 2: really need that funding. It's only a small percentage of
Speaker 2: our budget. And Comma, how dare they cut our budget?
Speaker 2: What are we going to do? This is tyranny. You
Speaker 2: are not entitled to federal funds as a media entity.
Speaker 2: This is insane. You know. I imagine all of a
Speaker 2: sudden and I would just say this, why is PBS
Speaker 2: getting money from the government. Clay and Bucks Show doesn't
Speaker 2: get any money from the government. We're a capitalist enterprise.
Speaker 2: Thanks to all of you who listen, and thanks to
Speaker 2: all of you who make our sponsors so successful, in
Speaker 2: the campaigns we have, in the partnerships we have on
Speaker 2: this show. Is thanks to you that this show exists.
Speaker 2: There's no there's no I mean, it would be kind
Speaker 2: of nice. I don't know, you get a check for
Speaker 2: ten million dollars for the government, you know, we'd give
Speaker 2: we give bonuses for the New York team or something
Speaker 2: out of that, right, I mean, this is this is
Speaker 2: the kind of thing that you sit there and you say,
Speaker 2: how has this even been able to exist as long
Speaker 2: as it has? And I want to get into this
Speaker 2: a little bit more on the Trump fight with Harvard,
Speaker 2: which I'll dive into in the bottom, which I think,
Speaker 2: I think this stuff is important. And there's a new
Speaker 2: addition to this too about foreign students from China. What's
Speaker 2: going on here? You know, were we bringing Were we
Speaker 2: bringing the best and the brightest from Moscow to study
Speaker 2: at cal Tech and MIT and I don't know, nuclear
Speaker 2: engineering or something. Were we doing that during the Cold War?
Speaker 2: I'm not aware of it in any real numbers. I mean,
Speaker 2: there was a lot of espionage going on, but I
Speaker 2: don't think we were welcoming, you know, Uh, tens of
Speaker 2: thousands of students from Moscow to come work at high
Speaker 2: levels of sensitive But we're doing that with China. We are,
Speaker 2: we have been doing and it's so dumb and so
Speaker 2: contra the national interest that when you say it out loud,
Speaker 2: it almost feels like, how is this? How's this possible?
Speaker 2: And then you can even take it a step further.
Speaker 2: How many Americans are getting access to the research being
Speaker 2: done by I don't know what the top Chinese universities are,
Speaker 2: but you know, let's just say the equivalent of University
Speaker 2: of Beijing. How many Americans are sitting in there classes
Speaker 2: learning about five G, learning about artificial intelligence, learning about
Speaker 2: next generation of microchips and what they're supercomputers. All that
Speaker 2: we all know the answer, Even if you don't follow
Speaker 2: the issue, you know the answer because you'd say, well,
Speaker 2: China is not that dumb, but we are. Trump comes along,
Speaker 2: This is one of his superpowers. The dumb things that
Speaker 2: we have as a country have been doing for such
Speaker 2: a long time that we just start to think that
Speaker 2: this is the way it has to be, because it
Speaker 2: seems like it's always been that way. Trump comes along
Speaker 2: and says, you know, that's a dumb thing, and we
Speaker 2: should stop doing it. Whether it's getting involved in foreign
Speaker 2: wars that we're not going to win and that aren't
Speaker 2: bringing any benefit to us or even the people in
Speaker 2: that country over the long term, or it's something as
Speaker 2: straightforward is why are we educating at the highest possible levels? Insensitive?
Speaker 2: They want to study Shakespeare. Okay, I'm a little more
Speaker 2: open to it as long as there's no Americans who
Speaker 2: are losing that spot in that school. Whole other conversation,
Speaker 2: but the top electrical engineering, top, microprocessor top, you know,
Speaker 2: theoretical physics, astrophysics. We're educating our biggest adversaries students, and
Speaker 2: by the way, in numbers that would blow your mind.
Speaker 2: I actually had a conversation randomly with the guy in
Speaker 2: the Princeton University electrical engineering labs a long time ago,
Speaker 2: and he said that if they wanted to, This was
Speaker 2: a long time ago. It was back when I was
Speaker 2: just out of school. He said, if they wanted to,
Speaker 2: they could take three classes or you know, three times
Speaker 2: as many students as they have from just China with
Speaker 2: perfect perfect scores for engineering, I mean perfect math scores. Everything.
Speaker 2: He says, you know, they don't take that many. It's
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent, but they could because they all
Speaker 2: want to come and they take a lot of them.
Speaker 2: And that's true of a lot of these schools. That
Speaker 2: needs to stop because they operate in America and they
Speaker 2: have to start seeing themselves as part of this country.
Speaker 2: They are not islands unto themselves. They do not have
Speaker 2: global tenure. So, if anything, what you're seeing right now
Speaker 2: is Trump putting into action that very important but very
Speaker 2: straightforward theory the dumb things that prior administrations have done
Speaker 2: that there can be no intelligent defense of. Whether it
Speaker 2: is funding PBS. I know they do it because it's
Speaker 2: left wing propaganda, but there's no real defense of this,
Speaker 2: not a serious defense, not an intellectually consistent one, or
Speaker 2: spending too much money, fraudulent stuff, sending money to people overseas,
Speaker 2: the stuff that Doge has found dumb. Right, we can
Speaker 2: all agree, or training the foreign adversaries brightest minds in
Speaker 2: the most sensitive technologies, when the wars and the economies
Speaker 2: of the future will be determined by technological prowess, very dumb.
Speaker 2: And it is, as I said, Trump's superpower among several,
Speaker 2: but one of his superpowers is to come along and
Speaker 2: say I no longer wish this country to do the
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Speaker 2: I want you all to keep in mind is the
Speaker 2: Trump administration learned I think a very important lesson from
Speaker 2: the first at bat that Trump had. I think a
Speaker 2: Trump administration learned something really critical, and that is keep
Speaker 2: pushing and keep moving on all fronts. The first time
Speaker 2: around when they did these universal injunctions and it was
Speaker 2: a different team, and they've they've got the seasoned crew
Speaker 2: in place. Now these people all know this game. They
Speaker 2: don't have people that are like, hey, I've never done
Speaker 2: politics before, and you know, I kind of like Trump
Speaker 2: and like, oh you can be you know, White House
Speaker 2: Communications director. It's a different world. So they have brought
Speaker 2: in people who understand that if you allow the process
Speaker 2: to get bogged down, and if you allow them to
Speaker 2: weaponize the process essentially to thwart the agenda, you're dead
Speaker 2: in the water. So you have to just keep going.
Speaker 2: So that's why, even though this is what I do
Speaker 2: for a living and I'm every day reading, researching, reading, researching,
Speaker 2: it's tough to keep up on Oh wait, what's the
Speaker 2: latest universal injunction? And what are they saying? What is
Speaker 2: this judge saying about Trump or that judge saying about Trump,
Speaker 2: because they're not taking the approach that I think was
Speaker 2: really just more of the Republican way. Oh we're gonna
Speaker 2: do this thing. Oh the judge is gonna fight us
Speaker 2: on this. M m okay, Well, we don't want to
Speaker 2: seem like we're pushing too hard on stuff. So let's
Speaker 2: see how this goes. Is you know, is it going
Speaker 2: to go to the appeals court? Okay, let's wait, is
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court and you hear it, you know, and
Speaker 2: next thing you know, a year is passed. And on
Speaker 2: this issue, you've allowed them to run out the clock
Speaker 2: and that's their whole game. So much of what they did,
Speaker 2: and this was one of my great frustrations with the
Speaker 2: Russia collusion. Lie. People always say, oh, it wasn't successful,
Speaker 2: and I have to correct them. It wasn't totally successful.
Speaker 2: In the end, I think you can argue it was
Speaker 2: defeated and shown to be a fraud. But there were costs.
Speaker 2: You know, we took casual rualty, so to speak, along
Speaker 2: the way in the Trump movement, because they were able
Speaker 2: to make people show up for depositions and then testify
Speaker 2: under oath and get lawyers and the media and you know,
Speaker 2: and the whole thing was just kicking mud up in
Speaker 2: the air being Haha, you can't you can't do what
Speaker 2: you were elected to do, because we're we're saying now,
Speaker 2: we're saying, I don't hear you, la la la la,
Speaker 2: I don't hear you. I'm a Democrat. You know, whatever
Speaker 2: childish nonsense they had to do, they did well. This
Speaker 2: time around. The Trump team is going, Okay, let's do this,
Speaker 2: oh universal injunction. Cool day day two, next day, let's
Speaker 2: do this, oh universal injunction. Guess what we got something else?
Speaker 2: And this is the only way available within the system.
Speaker 2: We have to continue to play offense. So now what
Speaker 2: this means is that the left and the Democrats are
Speaker 2: going to be saying, look, oh he's dictator and he's tired,
Speaker 2: and look at all these things he's doing, because there's
Speaker 2: a lot going on. But we want there to be
Speaker 2: a lot going on. We want this movement to be
Speaker 2: happening on all these different fronts and these processes are
Speaker 2: playing out, so once again, we all want the same
Speaker 2: result on this stuff. The people that are trying to
Speaker 2: do this in this White House, they are pursuing this.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like this before. Most of my
Speaker 2: life in conservative media has been telling the truth about
Speaker 2: Democrats when their media outlets have all together much bigger,
Speaker 2: you know, ecosystem and have us outgunned, so to speak.
Speaker 2: I know, you know, the biggest talk radio shows are conservative,
Speaker 2: and yes Fox is the biggest cable channel. But when
Speaker 2: you add all those different and remember now we're like
Speaker 2: the unsinkable aircraft carriers are free speech and the Democrat
Speaker 2: media is like a little dinghy you no beep beep.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think they have horns, but you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, maybe boats have horns, right, I'm
Speaker 2: not a boat guy, but you know they're not what
Speaker 2: they used to be right there. They're they're ships that
Speaker 2: they look like the hull is dipping low the close
Speaker 2: to the water, and you know they're sputtering a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's not working the way you used to. But one
Speaker 2: of the big things that I think we had to
Speaker 2: do on the conservative side of the media was just
Speaker 2: to deal with the constant incoming. And so we were
Speaker 2: playing a lot of defense, playing a lot of defense,
Speaker 2: and the Trump term, a first Trump term, playing a
Speaker 2: lot of with all the like I said, Russia collusion stuff. Right,
Speaker 2: they tried to make us play a lot of defense
Speaker 2: on the Biden. Now that didn't work as well as
Speaker 2: they had had hoped. But you know what we see
Speaker 2: here with Trump is action. Action is its own, is
Speaker 2: its own strategy. Just keep going, just you know, motion
Speaker 2: creates emotion, like make things happen. And that's why I
Speaker 2: think the stuff you see with the College is, I know,
Speaker 2: they say you can't do this, they say you can't
Speaker 2: do that, they say you can't deport. Okay, Trump's team
Speaker 2: is going to fight that out in But while that's
Speaker 2: happening in every area where the agenda can be pursued
Speaker 2: by the executive branch, they continue to go and this
Speaker 2: is excellent. Okay, now let's talk what's going on here
Speaker 2: with Harvard. You have this this injunction now from an
Speaker 2: Obama judge Obama, I'm gonna be honest with you, one
Speaker 2: of the smartest things, one of the most damaging things
Speaker 2: about Obama's eight years in office, and I think he
Speaker 2: did horrific long term damage to the country in a
Speaker 2: whole range of ways. I think the Obama presidency was
Speaker 2: a disaster for America that has continued to do harm
Speaker 2: well beyond his eight years. Yeah, I mean, on so
Speaker 2: many issues, I can't get in them all now. Also,
Speaker 2: I'll address Michelle Obama now that people are seeing what
Speaker 2: she actually thinks. I don't think we're gonna hear anyone
Speaker 2: talking about how she should be a presidential candidate anymore.
Speaker 2: I'll put it that way. Michelle Obama not a grateful
Speaker 2: person and not a wise person, and doesn't seem like
Speaker 2: a very nice person either. Not a surprise to some
Speaker 2: of you. But when she's on these podcasts, she's not's
Speaker 2: not doing herself any favors with with a broader electorate,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. I mean, I'm sure they're you know,
Speaker 2: super fans of Michelle Obama who think everything that she
Speaker 2: says is brilliant. It's not. And I think that people
Speaker 2: feel more comfortable just speaking the truth about that now
Speaker 2: than ever before. But Obama did a lot of damage
Speaker 2: to the country, and Trump is trying to undo that damage.
Speaker 2: But one of the most lasting points of damage in
Speaker 2: all of this has been the seating of the federal
Speaker 2: judiciary with activists, people who just do not care, you
Speaker 2: know that. Call it the Sodo my yours because she's
Speaker 2: a she is really the the the pinnacle example of this.
Speaker 2: She just knows she's supposed to deliver for her team,
Speaker 2: team Democrat, team left wing, team race and identity politics,
Speaker 2: you know, team wise Latina like she she knows that
Speaker 2: she is supposed to make it happen for them in
Speaker 2: whatever and now she's only one vote of nine, but
Speaker 2: that's every She never there's never a moment where you go, wow,
Speaker 2: Soda my or is really angering her own side with that?
Speaker 2: How is that possible? She never lets the home team down.
Speaker 2: The progressive leftist, communist Democrat is never frustrated with Soda
Speaker 2: my Or. Now she we're aware of this because of
Speaker 2: her role in the Supreme court. There are hundreds of
Speaker 2: sod my ors in the federal judiciary, hundreds of them
Speaker 2: because of what Obama and Biden were able to and
Speaker 2: Biden's case, the people around him as we know, but
Speaker 2: what they were able to accomplish. So this is a
Speaker 2: major challenge for the administration on the issue of foreign
Speaker 2: students in this country. I have objections to this on
Speaker 2: many levels, not all foreign students. Please don't tell me,
Speaker 2: oh oh, but you know, I you know, my family
Speaker 2: we were so close. You know. We had a foreign
Speaker 2: exchange student from Singapore and he was lovelier. We had
Speaker 2: somebody visiting our you know, was in class at Brigham
Speaker 2: Young with my son and he was from you know, wherever.
Speaker 2: And I know, Okay, it's not that we don't want
Speaker 2: any foreigners here, that that would be too much, But
Speaker 2: we also don't want nothing but foreigners in the top
Speaker 2: echelon of critical industries, critical academic disciplines for our economy
Speaker 2: and our national defense, and that is happening. We also
Speaker 2: don't want foreigners, non Americans of any kind, to be
Speaker 2: here in numbers where they get to box out essentially
Speaker 2: Americans from access to the schools that as we now
Speaker 2: all know, are getting billions of dollars of taxpayer money
Speaker 2: and they really want that money. So they're taking taxpayer dollars,
Speaker 2: but they're not prioritize Americans. You know. You know, you
Speaker 2: start to do this, what percent of Harvard students are for?
Speaker 2: You start to look at these numbers and you say
Speaker 2: to yourself, thirty percent of Harvard or foreigners? Do you
Speaker 2: know that thirty It's like twenty seven, twenty eight percent.
Speaker 2: We'll just say thirty percent because it's basically a third, okay,
Speaker 2: a third of Harvard or foreign So this is our
Speaker 2: most elite university. Blah blah, all that stuff. I mean,
Speaker 2: at Stanford and Yale, people send your plays on vacation,
Speaker 2: send angry emails to him. We're supposed to sit here
Speaker 2: and say that that's okay, that's insane, that's completely preposterous.
Speaker 2: The only reason that Harvard can have all these people
Speaker 2: sitting around with tenure, including oh, this is beautiful, including
Speaker 2: a professor of honesty I kid you not, who was
Speaker 2: just fired from her tenure job at Harvard Business School
Speaker 2: or dishonesty. It's real. You can look it up. I'm
Speaker 2: not making it up. And it just happened her expertise
Speaker 2: is whether people are honest or not, and they fired
Speaker 2: her for being dishonest about her expertise and about the data.
Speaker 2: They say one of the highest paid professors at Harvard
Speaker 2: Business School. I my dad, I mean, these are the
Speaker 2: kind of people that I remember. This is like because
Speaker 2: I was in this rat race for a while. Remember
Speaker 2: until Glenn Beck came along and saved me. I was
Speaker 2: on my way to Columbia Business School. And I don't
Speaker 2: mean I was thinking about it. I was in. I
Speaker 2: was going and Glenn was like, Buck, come work with me,
Speaker 2: you know, did his Glenn thing. I was like, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: that is a great let's do that thing. The Blaze
Speaker 2: early days, got to work with Pete Hegseth and Will Kine,
Speaker 2: and I mean, I can't even I can't even name everybody.
Speaker 2: I mean, early days, it was just like everybody you
Speaker 2: see on Fox now practically came through the Blaze either
Speaker 2: as you know, somebody who was a guest or whatever.
Speaker 2: So it was those are fun days. Those are fun days.
Speaker 2: I got a lot of nostalgia about it. My point
Speaker 2: is merely I understand this world where people are going
Speaker 2: through all this stuff. They'll do anything to shove people
Speaker 2: out of the way to get into these places so
Speaker 2: they can study under a professor of honesty who's actually
Speaker 2: really dishonest. I mean at Harvard at Heart. What has
Speaker 2: happened to these places? Do I think that Harvard? I mean,
Speaker 2: you look at some of these schools. You know, they
Speaker 2: used to have like an ancient, ancient Greek and Latin
Speaker 2: requirement requirement at some of these at some of these
Speaker 2: universial you look this up. I mean the core curriculum.
Speaker 2: You actually had to be smart to go to these
Speaker 2: places and pass these classes, whether it's you know, talking
Speaker 2: about back and I don't know, the fifties. I think
Speaker 2: the sixties ruined everything. Sorry Boomers, I think the sixties
Speaker 2: ruined you know, because that's when you seeded the radicals
Speaker 2: in these schools and that's where But you go back
Speaker 2: earlier than that, and you had to actually be pretty
Speaker 2: smart at these places. You had to know my college
Speaker 2: Amherst when I went there, and it's only gotten more
Speaker 2: competitive since then. Small schools, those who the Northeast know
Speaker 2: what the rest of the country doesn't know it. But
Speaker 2: because it's kind of like an insider, First of all,
Speaker 2: you can't pronounce the age. It's not Amhurst, it's Amherst,
Speaker 2: just so you know. And that's always the tell. If
Speaker 2: somebody says Amhurst, it's like, oh sweetie, or what do
Speaker 2: you say in the South? Bless your heart, oh, bless
Speaker 2: your heart. The whole thing was that they would take
Speaker 2: I think they had a fifteen percent admission rate. So
Speaker 2: one hundred people apply, eighty five of them get sad
Speaker 2: letters home. Eighty five of one hundred people get sad
Speaker 2: letters home. Okay, And and I think now it's less
Speaker 2: than that. Harvard's like one percent or two percent or
Speaker 2: something insane. And there was remedial math and remedial English
Speaker 2: basically required for a big chunk of students coming in Sting.
Speaker 2: I remember sitting here thinking like, how how elite can
Speaker 2: this place be when you have people who can't you know,
Speaker 2: can't math good and need help on on you know,
Speaker 2: writing and basic reading, Like, how can this be an
Speaker 2: elite institution when that's the well, this is where the
Speaker 2: left uses these places as credential factories to do social
Speaker 2: engineering in the broader society, and we all see it.
Speaker 2: So I have I want to come back to this
Speaker 2: issue with the foreigners and schools though, because this is
Speaker 2: also a national security thing. I'm passionate about this. I
Speaker 2: don't think this is a small thing at all. You
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Speaker 2: administration was putting out White House Communica, official White House
Speaker 2: communications about how twelve year olds should be able to
Speaker 2: pick their gender and get like castration drugs. How could
Speaker 2: that have happened? Look at college campuses. That's where it
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Speaker 2: with Harvard, which I think is pretty interesting. But I
Speaker 2: wanted to switch gears here and think about how a
Speaker 2: lot of what we're seeing happening right now. You know,
Speaker 2: it's one thing when you argue in politics and you
Speaker 2: can't have somebody who I think ends the argument one
Speaker 2: way or the other. You know, oh, would this tax
Speaker 2: rate be better for growth? Or that text read? Well,
Speaker 2: you got to try one, and if you try one,
Speaker 2: you haven't done the other. But sometimes you can actually
Speaker 2: just get an authoritative voice on something who proves that
Speaker 2: one side is correct or at least more correct than
Speaker 2: the other. And on this issue of Donald Trump being
Speaker 2: able to get hostages returned, get people back who have
Speaker 2: been held by Hamas, there's of course this effort from
Speaker 2: the Democrats to be like, well, it's not like Trump
Speaker 2: has just managed to do that. Really, let's think this
Speaker 2: one through for a second. Hey, I've told you, Clay's
Speaker 2: told you, We've discussed many times here on the show
Speaker 2: that there is a clear preference among you know what, Actually,
Speaker 2: let me take a step back on this. It's important.
Speaker 2: They're trying to tell you that somehow Donald Trump, who
Speaker 2: just won with this huge mandate, the guy who took
Speaker 2: a bullet in the ear and said, fight, fight, Fight.
Speaker 2: The billionaire global brand building impresario, an entrepreneur and political phenomenon,
Speaker 2: who is scared of no one and is doing this
Speaker 2: because at this I mean, I thought it was clear
Speaker 2: in the first term, to be clear with all of you,
Speaker 2: and I know you agree, But he's doing this because
Speaker 2: he loves the country and he thinks that he's the
Speaker 2: best man for this moment. Okay, is it reasonable to
Speaker 2: think that the enemies of the United States don't want
Speaker 2: that guy in charge? You know who they want in charge,
Speaker 2: the guy with dementia who's not really in charge. What
Speaker 2: is the counter argument to that? What are they gonna say? Oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know who really makes Putin shaken? Is you know,
Speaker 2: shaking his little booties, ron Klain. He can't man. Once
Speaker 2: ron Klay gets Putin on the phone, it's lights out,
Speaker 2: it's game over. Well, as we know, the Democrats have
Speaker 2: had to admit that this is something that was happening.
Speaker 2: There's no argument about this anymore. And it was because
Speaker 2: they were exposed right never they got caught. They didn't
Speaker 2: turn themselves in. The Democrats got caught on the cover
Speaker 2: up of Biden's dementia. The debate they got caught. They
Speaker 2: were trying to pull off the caper and they almost did.
Speaker 2: They almost did. So there's no you know, there's like
Speaker 2: no belief that anybody should have that they're coming clean
Speaker 2: or they have some honesty here or something like that.
Speaker 2: So with that, I go back to is Trump what's
Speaker 2: trump better position to bring back hostive Americans and israelis
Speaker 2: bring back hostages taken by Hamas than his predecessor. Of course,
Speaker 2: we've made the argument that the answer is yes. But
Speaker 2: here you can actually have one of the hostages tell
Speaker 2: you himself that it's not just a theory, it's not
Speaker 2: just I make the case to you the reality of Hamas.
Speaker 2: Because he heard them talking about it was, uh, oh
Speaker 2: they really don't want this Trump guy to be in charge. Oh,
Speaker 2: we better be nice to the hostages. Now they might
Speaker 2: actually end up going home because we might get called
Speaker 2: out and the pressure might get turned up. And here
Speaker 2: is this is a freed hostage. O Mayor sham twelve.
Speaker 2: He was talking to CNN last night and explaining this
Speaker 2: part of the story. I want you to hear it's
Speaker 2: about a minute long. Play clip one.
Speaker 4: Yes, it seems he got me out, He got the hostages.
Speaker 3: Out, you talk to politics with them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they wanted Kamala to be elected, but
Speaker 4: as soon as as as A Donald Trump was elected,
Speaker 4: they understood that he wants to bring the hostages back home. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So immediately the way they treated me changed. So it's
Speaker 4: if it's the amount of food, I could say this
Speaker 4: that when when Trump came into became president, Yeah, the
Speaker 4: way they treated us changed for me personally.
Speaker 3: This is I think because they anticipated that a deal
Speaker 3: would come soon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's when they started giving you more food, exactly,
Speaker 4: more food, treated me better, you know, stopped cursing me,
Speaker 4: stop speededing on me.
Speaker 2: Trump becomes president, they stop cursing me, they stop spitting
Speaker 2: at me, they stop mistreating me. Think about what kind
Speaker 2: of powerful testimony this is about the reality of whether
Speaker 2: or not the American people on a whole range of fronts,
Speaker 2: but certainly as it pertains to our national security interests
Speaker 2: and our presence on the world stage. What could make
Speaker 2: this more clear than exactly what this now freed hostage
Speaker 2: was saying, which is the bad and Hamas are clearly
Speaker 2: the bad guys, and I commend the Israelis for taking
Speaker 2: as many Hamas fighters out as they can. They this
Speaker 2: was their nine to eleven, the same way that America
Speaker 2: had a right to respond in you know, with all
Speaker 2: all necessary and due force for their own uh security
Speaker 2: and their own preservation, the same way that we have
Speaker 2: that right. The Israelis have that right. And Hamas you
Speaker 2: know they had, Hamas has earned every dead Hamas fighter
Speaker 2: that they have on their hands. Now they I mean
Speaker 2: they they wanted this, truly, they wanted this, as we
Speaker 2: know they love they love death more than we love life.
Speaker 2: This is what the Jihadas always say, and unfortunately it's true,
Speaker 2: but doesn't mean we can't test out the theory. And
Speaker 2: the Hamas terrorists who had captured and were holding who
Speaker 2: holds hostages like this? What entity all these people are like? Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm so pro Palestinia. I saw these uh one of
Speaker 2: these with this band I think was imagined dragons. They're
Speaker 2: all holding up Palestinian flags. What do they think about Hamas?
Speaker 2: I mean they're morons obviously, maybe they have some catchy songs. Fine,
Speaker 2: why do all these people have to think they have
Speaker 2: to weigh in on international politics? They know nothing, They're
Speaker 2: just completing neuamuses. They know absolutely nothing in fact, if anything,
Speaker 2: they're useful idiots for some of the worst people in
Speaker 2: the world or on the world stage, like a mos
Speaker 2: because they approach this issue with just pure ignorance. They
Speaker 2: know nothing about what's really going on, what has gone on.
Speaker 2: But I just thought that that really hammered it home
Speaker 2: for everyone to hear a hostage say that my actual
Speaker 2: treatment in captivity by those savages became markedly better the
Speaker 2: moment Trump won, the day it's clear that uh, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, big Daddy Trump is coming back and no
Speaker 2: more Biden, you know, with the apple sauce and the
Speaker 2: blanket on his knees and where am I? And you
Speaker 2: know what it was? What is that? It's don't ever
Speaker 2: forget the Democrats for what they did on that. Don't
Speaker 2: ever think it's okay your neighbor who was so smug?
Speaker 2: So smug, I'm sure, especially in twenty twenty, especially in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, Oh, I voted Democrat. How could you
Speaker 2: have voted for Trump? How could you have done that? Really?
Speaker 2: How's that all? Look? Now, it's hard to even hard
Speaker 2: to even compare Trump and Biden, because it's comparing excellence
Speaker 2: with a non entity. It's really like comparing a you know,
Speaker 2: if we're talking about combat, this is like comparing a
Speaker 2: Navy seal to somebody who didn't even show up for
Speaker 2: basic training. How do you compare these there's no comparison.
Speaker 2: Biden wasn't even really there's a puppet, and now they
Speaker 2: want to act like this is why you'll notice I
Speaker 2: try to focus a lot here on the agenda. I
Speaker 2: try to talk about the good things that Trump is
Speaker 2: doing because we can do that because the opposition is
Speaker 2: a joke. Now we will have to take them seriously again.
Speaker 2: They're going to try to take back the House. I
Speaker 2: get it. I'm not. This is not a foreverything. But
Speaker 2: we do have a window right now where it's pretty
Speaker 2: as clear sailing as you're going to find in American politics.
Speaker 2: Trump right now meaning you know, we we've he has
Speaker 2: never been in a better position to get important things done,
Speaker 2: and they're doing the things. I was very frustrated in
Speaker 2: the first administration on a few things early on, because
Speaker 2: you know, they had they had some bad personnel choices,
Speaker 2: they had a lot of notice. Think about how many
Speaker 2: stories you heard from the first term of Trump that
Speaker 2: were about disloyalty in these agencies and institutions. His stories
Speaker 2: were it was like every day there's another story. Oh,
Speaker 2: State Department didn't revolt, Like I'm so upset. I work
Speaker 2: at the State Department, and I'm like, I cry at
Speaker 2: my desk, gout the Trump. But I'm like, I'm thwarting
Speaker 2: his agenda every day. You know who's the guy?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: What was it? The anonymous I'm I'm stopping Trump by
Speaker 2: by keeping you know, signatures off his desk, and I'm
Speaker 2: important it ever goes, who are you? Are you bringing Trump?
Speaker 2: Is his big max once a day or something like, well,
Speaker 2: who are you? Oh, I'm holding the republic together? I
Speaker 2: wrote it up ed in the Washington Post or I
Speaker 2: don't even know I'm big exert I don't even remember
Speaker 2: that guy's name. Like that actually would have been a
Speaker 2: story if it was, you know, if the person writing
Speaker 2: that editorial was like Ivanka or something, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: if it was somebody who was close to Trump, had
Speaker 2: the guy. I don't remember that guy's name, and now
Speaker 2: he's resistance. He's like, I'm a Republican, but all I
Speaker 2: do is entertaining democrats. What it is such a such
Speaker 2: a pathetic and sad political and professional existence for these
Speaker 2: people who their hatred of Trump has turned them into
Speaker 2: something that is respected by neither side because they're not
Speaker 2: fully on board with everything the left says, or at
Speaker 2: least they'll pretend, but they only do things to hurt
Speaker 2: their own team. And what a horrible place. I couldn't
Speaker 2: do it. Are you could offer me whatever? You know?
Speaker 2: It doesn't I couldn't do it. I mean, actually couldn't
Speaker 2: just wake up and say, you know, well, I'm the
Speaker 2: real Republican. I hate Trump and everybody who supports Trump
Speaker 2: is wrong because I there's this now that industry I
Speaker 2: think has dissipated a lot, because the media outlets that
Speaker 2: were propping these people up or places like MSNBC, and
Speaker 2: their credibility is all in you know, in uh smoldering
Speaker 2: as well. So yeah, yeah, I think it's very interesting,
Speaker 2: very interesting see how all of this plays out. And
Speaker 2: I thought that that statement from the the person who
Speaker 2: had been taken hostage by hamas it's not it's not
Speaker 2: it's a not a revelation because you know, and I
Speaker 2: know that that stuff playing out in a million different
Speaker 2: ways is true, but to have it confirmed is always interesting,
Speaker 2: and it's just more data that we were right about this,
Speaker 2: And like I said, the case about Trump v. Biden
Speaker 2: and what that means for our interests abroad and what
Speaker 2: that means for our allies is and other allies, the
Speaker 2: case is very strong Trump v Biden without even this
Speaker 2: this kind of really clear data, you know what I
Speaker 2: would consider sort of argument enders on some of these issues,
Speaker 2: and then when you add them in, you just go,
Speaker 2: what is the other side? Even what world are they
Speaker 2: living in? Oh yeah, Joe Biden. But Tony Blinken, I mean,
Speaker 2: look at look at these people. Tony Blinkin would be
Speaker 2: you know, in over his head working in HR at
Speaker 2: some company that you know makes mufflers somewhere, Like, what
Speaker 2: is how are these people running global foreign policy? How
Speaker 2: are these people staring down our enemies and thinking it's
Speaker 2: a joke. The whole thing was absurd. And the person
Speaker 2: who's calling the shots over them, the person who's actually
Speaker 2: supposed to be the you know, the grand strategic mind
Speaker 2: is not of right mind as a matter of fact,
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Speaker 2: on vacation, so he's having a good time homing back
Speaker 2: next week. We have much to discuss here, friends, and
Speaker 2: one thing I wanted to touch them. And I'll have
Speaker 2: to revisit this when Clay has joined us once again.
Speaker 2: But one thing that I wanted to point out is
Speaker 2: yours truly perhaps known to some as the Buckster, or,
Speaker 2: as I told my wife to her laughing at me,
Speaker 2: the Milman of radio, because I always deliver that that
Speaker 2: didn't go. I thought it sounded cooler before I it
Speaker 2: sounded cooler in my head, you know. But one area
Speaker 2: where I think I've been I've been prescient, is that
Speaker 2: there was never going to be a Michelle Obama for
Speaker 2: President ticket. This is something that people have talked about
Speaker 2: for a year. As you know it has come up.
Speaker 2: I have been asked at cocktail parties, At actual cocktail parties,
Speaker 2: I don't go to many, especially now that I have
Speaker 2: a baby, but I do go to a couple here
Speaker 2: and there. You know what about Michelle Obama. You know,
Speaker 2: this was this is something and as you know Clay,
Speaker 2: I won't I won't get into his point of view
Speaker 2: on this too much because he's not here to to
Speaker 2: explain it himself. But Clay thought maybe too. I've just
Speaker 2: always thought, you know, she doesn't want to do it.
Speaker 2: And I think that the more people were exposed to
Speaker 2: the actual person of Michelle Obama. Not the media at
Speaker 2: really the peak of its powers. In a lot of ways,
Speaker 2: the media during the Obama era and toward the end
Speaker 2: of the Obama era was we were really out gunned.
Speaker 2: It was the early days of social media, and people
Speaker 2: didn't even realize that the whole game was rigged places
Speaker 2: like Twitter and Facebook. We're saying to ourselves, oh, but
Speaker 2: you know, we can get a fair shake. I mean,
Speaker 2: I knew we couldn't. But if you weren't operating on
Speaker 2: those platforms as part of your job, you would have
Speaker 2: as a conservative, you had no idea that they were
Speaker 2: all rigged. And this has become a matter of public record.
Speaker 2: Now this is not something there's that there's a debate about.
Speaker 2: Thanks to Elon buying Twitter, for example, we know this
Speaker 2: stuff was rigged so only certain messaging would really be
Speaker 2: able to get out there.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: And and there was a whole bunch of ways that
Speaker 2: they were able to just sway things. But the the
Speaker 2: way that they built a cult around Michelle Obama was
Speaker 2: truly it was an all in, all hands on deck
Speaker 2: effort by the apparatus. I mean they they were all
Speaker 2: in on this, and and there was a time when
Speaker 2: if you criticized Michelle Obama you were going to get
Speaker 2: I remember, you know what, I'll even I'll even cite
Speaker 2: it my friend Will Kine, who's doing a phenomenal job.
Speaker 2: As I knew he would, always knew, Will was just
Speaker 2: gonna be you know, growing, growing, growing. You know, Will
Speaker 2: and I sat together at their Real News table again,
Speaker 2: Glenbex the Blaze for I don't know a few years
Speaker 2: I was. I think I worked in the Blaze for
Speaker 2: like five or six years, and I think three or
Speaker 2: four of them, maybe Will and I were sitting day
Speaker 2: in and day out our table together. Super talented guy,
Speaker 2: really good guy. But I remember I think it was
Speaker 2: on scene because he also was a CNN contributor, because
Speaker 2: CNN used to have people who were conservative on and
Speaker 2: then they stopped during Trump and now maybe they're getting
Speaker 2: back to it used to. But I think Will called
Speaker 2: out on CNN Xeric guy. See if you can find
Speaker 2: this clip. Michelle Obama held up a bring back our
Speaker 2: girls sign on social media, and this was in reference
Speaker 2: to the kidnapping. By kidnapping, but I know the group,
Speaker 2: they don't have to yell the group in my year
Speaker 2: team were. In fact. In my new book, which will
Speaker 2: be out of January, I get to talk about how
Speaker 2: yours truly kind of knew about Boco Haram before anybody else.
Speaker 2: This little teaser there, there was a little bit of
Speaker 2: a little bit of conversation. I'm just saying some cool,
Speaker 2: some old school CIA stuff maybe coming up cleared for release. Oh,
Speaker 2: I know a lot about Boco Haram. Buck's been fuck
Speaker 2: Buck deployed to West Africa. I haven't talked about that
Speaker 2: on the show before. I don't want to get too
Speaker 2: deep into it now because you're gonna have to buy
Speaker 2: the book Everybody, which is cleared and is coming out.
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, you know, I've been talking about it forever.
Speaker 2: It took like six months for the CIA to clear
Speaker 2: this thing. It is cleared, though, and I can talk
Speaker 2: about that. I actually have some West African expertise. So yes,
Speaker 2: it was boc Ohram, the group they kidnapped. Are sorry
Speaker 2: they kidnapped these girls from a school. It was a
Speaker 2: horrible thing. Boca Haram would have been the most lethal
Speaker 2: terrorist group in the world around this period by casualties,
Speaker 2: by deaths. They were walking suicide bombers into crowded churches
Speaker 2: and I it just you know, killed fifteen people, thirty people,
Speaker 2: fifty people. I mean, this was regularly happening. It's just
Speaker 2: horrendous stuff. Jie hottists aligned with al Qaeda, you know,
Speaker 2: same worldview as Hamas. It's the truth. But Boco Haram
Speaker 2: kidnap these girls. And Michelle Obama held up this this
Speaker 2: bring Back our Girls signed administration, right, I mean it
Speaker 2: was it was I forget what year. I want to
Speaker 2: say this was twenty fourteen. If I get that right
Speaker 2: off the top of my head, that's pretty good. I
Speaker 2: think it was twenty fourteen, maybe twenty fifteen, and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: check that one for me team. But the whole thing
Speaker 2: was like you're posting this on social media. Your husband's
Speaker 2: the president, like have him. You know, we got drones
Speaker 2: like go get them, go save them when you bring
Speaker 2: back our girls? And Will pointed out and CNN it
Speaker 2: was Don Lemon. It was Don Lemon. I remember all
Speaker 2: the thing. Don Lemon freaked out over this, freaked out
Speaker 2: over this. You know, you know, how dare you? Don
Speaker 2: Lemon's and Moron, but you know, freaked out over this?
Speaker 2: How dare you? And I just remember it's it wasn't
Speaker 2: that Don Lemon knows nothing about uh about West Africa,
Speaker 2: Boca ram anything, right. I mean, I actually don't think he.
Speaker 2: I don't mean this as exaggeration. I don't think that
Speaker 2: if you gave a map of Africa to him, he
Speaker 2: could find Nigeria on a map. I truly don't think
Speaker 2: that he could. But yeah, now I get to tell you, guys,
Speaker 2: because I wasn't able to before that. My actual first
Speaker 2: portfolio before I moved to Iraq in the CIA was Africa.
Speaker 2: Stuff was in Africa, particularly West Africa. So yay get
Speaker 2: to talk about it finally. Uh. And there's more than that.
Speaker 2: It's not your story in the book. There's more than
Speaker 2: just like so I learned about this place. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I spent some time over there. But back to will
Speaker 2: Don Lemon, Michelle Obama, this whole situation, the cult of
Speaker 2: Michelle Obama was so strong that everybody knew if you said,
Speaker 2: if she stepped into the arena, if she got political
Speaker 2: on something, and you said anything, that it was day
Speaker 2: all attacked. Right, it was oh my gosh, how dare you? Oh,
Speaker 2: Michelle Obama? And it even went beyond that, It went
Speaker 2: beyond that to this bizarre Uh here was I right
Speaker 2: on the year guys, you know, to bring back our
Speaker 2: girls thing? Was it twenty fourteen? I was right twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. You know, I'm getting old, and for
Speaker 2: me to pull uh, eleven years ago off the top
Speaker 2: of my head, this is this is pretty good. Recall.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say a little little pat on the back.
Speaker 2: Maybe I am the radio mail man. My wife is like,
Speaker 2: stop it, like you're just you know, you're just you're
Speaker 2: not helping yourself. Buck. Carrie's listening right now. She's on
Speaker 2: the road. So there was this time when you couldn't
Speaker 2: criticize Michelle Obama, and you also had to say that
Speaker 2: she was, you know, the most brilliant first lady of
Speaker 2: all time, the most beautiful first lady of all time,
Speaker 2: the most incredible, and all all we would ever hear
Speaker 2: about was how what wonderful she was. And if you,
Speaker 2: if you had any even if you were like I
Speaker 2: don't want to hear about it, you know, I don't really,
Speaker 2: it reminded me at on a much lesser level. They
Speaker 2: did this with Ruth Bader Ginsburg too. They just created
Speaker 2: this whole cult which by the way kind of blew
Speaker 2: up in their faces because Ruth Bader Ginsberg refused to
Speaker 2: retire and so, as we know, another Supreme Court seed
Speaker 2: for Trump. But they create this cult where we were
Speaker 2: watching workout videos of Ruth Bader and adults were saying
Speaker 2: things like wow, like look at her throw that kettle
Speaker 2: bell around. She's like a just like a tiny ancient
Speaker 2: woman who's got like a five pound weight max. Maybe
Speaker 2: a two pound weight in her hands. I'm supposed like,
Speaker 2: I'm glad that she's trying to be healthy, but I'm
Speaker 2: supposed to be impressed by this. This, this is same, this
Speaker 2: is real. You can find these videos. You think I'm exaggerating,
Speaker 2: but no, no, the Buckster always knows. And on the
Speaker 2: Michelle Obama thing, I've just always been a doubter of
Speaker 2: not just of her running for president, but of I
Speaker 2: think that the more people would see of Michelle Obama
Speaker 2: without the media's creation of the greatest, most beautiful and
Speaker 2: most brilliant, most perfect first lady or really person ever
Speaker 2: even more perfect than Barack Obama, if that was even possible.
Speaker 2: But you know, if you work at CBS or you
Speaker 2: worked the New York Times, that was the party line.
Speaker 2: Michelle Obama most amazing person to ever lived. Here, she
Speaker 2: is where you get to actually learn about the real
Speaker 2: Michelle Obama. We're just talking about women and giving birth
Speaker 2: to children and your womb. I want you to listen
Speaker 2: in to the former First Lady here on a podcast
Speaker 2: because now she has to do podcasts too. This is
Speaker 2: cut three play it.
Speaker 5: So many men have no idea about what women go through.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: We haven't been researched, we haven't been considered, and it
Speaker 5: still affects the way. A lot of male lawmakers, a
Speaker 5: lot of male politicians, a lot of male religion leaders
Speaker 5: think about the issue of choice as if it's just
Speaker 5: about the fetus, the baby. But women's reproductive health is
Speaker 5: about our life. It's about this whole complicated reproductive system
Speaker 5: that does the least of what it does is produced life.
Speaker 2: It's a very important thing that it does. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: you heard the quote. Now was the end of the clip.
Speaker 2: I want you to hear the quote. She's a woman
Speaker 2: and she's saying the least important thing that the female
Speaker 2: reproductive system does is produce life. The least important thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to think of what I can
Speaker 2: say on the radio here that is so it's a
Speaker 2: heinous thing to say, it's a stupid thing to say,
Speaker 2: but it's also an illuminating thing for Michelle Obama to say,
Speaker 2: just like so much of what we have been subjected to,
Speaker 2: whether it was the Fauci, the Worship and the CDC
Speaker 2: and the nih and Naiad or Joe Biden sharp as
Speaker 2: attack or Trump is Hitler or whatever, another mirage, another
Speaker 2: mirage that I think has, as they all should, evaporated,
Speaker 2: evaporated as the light of truth is allowed in and
Speaker 2: people can see for themselves. Michelle Obama is not bright
Speaker 2: and is not a very good person, at least when
Speaker 2: it comes to public policy. That is one of the
Speaker 2: ugliest things I've heard a person say on any podcast
Speaker 2: in a long time, like an expert on women. Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm a man, so I can't know about these things.
Speaker 2: The most amazing thing in my life has only been
Speaker 2: around now for forgetting when he was born like six
Speaker 2: weeks and my wife and I I just beam with
Speaker 2: pride every day. And I know what the Libs will say, Oh,
Speaker 2: Michelle Obama loves her children. And you know she was
Speaker 2: talking about this in the context of women's rights. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but she's on a podcast and she's sharing this point
Speaker 2: of view. And what people here is what she said.
Speaker 2: What young women who are impressionable, who have been part
Speaker 2: of the Michelle Obama cult or they've been indoctrinated into it,
Speaker 2: what they hear is the least important thing your womb
Speaker 2: will do is give life. I mean, you want to
Speaker 2: talk about perverse, evil, misery inducing. It is one of
Speaker 2: the worst things I've heard a person say in public life,
Speaker 2: in a you know, in a very long time. And
Speaker 2: it is. But I'm not surprised because Michelle op like
Speaker 2: I said, Michelle Obama like so many and Clay has
Speaker 2: like full credit to Clay, he has let what he
Speaker 2: you know, thinks about Michelle Obama be well known on
Speaker 2: this program. But I really think that this mythology that
Speaker 2: was built around her, she should do more podcasts. Let's
Speaker 2: hear more. In fact, I have another another clip for
Speaker 2: you that we will play so you can say, the
Speaker 2: more you hear Michelle Obama actually talking about things. And
Speaker 2: I know this doesn't surprise you, but it's fun because
Speaker 2: we were right, and we knew right. You were right.
Speaker 2: I was right. We've known this all along. They created
Speaker 2: this whole mythology. The more you hear from Michelle Obama,
Speaker 2: the not only you won't be impressed because she's not impressive,
Speaker 2: the less you will like her, which is you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's quite a thing to say, but it is true.
Speaker 2: It's like, the more you hear from Joe Biden, the
Speaker 2: more you knew that he wasn't all there. The more
Speaker 2: you hear from Michelle Obama, the more you'll be like, Wow,
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