WEBVTT - I Choose...Men's Health with Dr. Cedrek McFadden

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hey, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to I Choose Me. This is the podcast all

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<v Speaker 1>about the choices we make and where they lead us.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember when I promised you guys that we would talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some man stuff. Well, June is men's health month,

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<v Speaker 1>so I wanted to have a conversation dedicated to this

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<v Speaker 1>important topic because I know we have male listeners out there. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, and we have a lot of women

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<v Speaker 1>who have male partners or you know, you just have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy in your life that you care about. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a certain man in my life and he gets

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<v Speaker 1>me so riled up on the subject, the taking care

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<v Speaker 1>of oneself subject. So he is going to join us

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, babe, Hi honey.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we are kind of different when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to our health, you know, taking care of ourselves, and

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<v Speaker 1>it has several times now I think, become just like

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<v Speaker 1>a little rift between us. It usually goes a little

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<v Speaker 1>something like this. I say, honey, hey, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>should have that neck issue checked out maybe, or have

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<v Speaker 1>you had a physical lately, or you know, prevention it's key,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll say, well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my neck actually feels better. I'm feeling fine,

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<v Speaker 2>and who has the time to go to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too much?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Yeah, as you can see, this is why I

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<v Speaker 1>get a little irritated because I care about you and

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<v Speaker 1>selfishly I want you around in my life for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, and it would be incredible if you would

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<v Speaker 1>put a little effort into staying healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a very important subject I get.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Hopefully our guest today can give me a little

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<v Speaker 1>backup here. You know what, I'm actually used to this

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<v Speaker 1>with the girls. If I say something sometimes they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really hear it, but if someone else says the same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a revelation. So, babe, get ready for your

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<v Speaker 1>aha moment. Our guest today is a Board certified surgeon.

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<v Speaker 1>A frequent guest on The Today Show. He is an

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<v Speaker 1>associate professor at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>He specializes in treatments of disorders affecting the large intestines

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<v Speaker 1>and is highly skilled in a range of procedures, including colonoscopies.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, he's just a general wealth of health knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>Please welcome doctor Cedric McFadden to the I Choose Me Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Doc, Hi, doctor, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we are good. Believe me. We are so glad

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<v Speaker 1>that you are here. Because this is like the age

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<v Speaker 1>old question, why do men not go to the doctor

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<v Speaker 1>as much as women?

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<v Speaker 3>That's an age old question with an age old answer.

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<v Speaker 3>The many for that. Let's face it, women are more

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<v Speaker 3>used to going to the doctor. In fact, we kind

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<v Speaker 3>of start women off as early as they're late teens,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of get into that habit of going for a

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<v Speaker 3>yearly and so it's embedded into the culture that women

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<v Speaker 3>go to the doctor and men don't. When I was

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen or when I was twenty, no one said you

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<v Speaker 3>need to go for your yearly checkup. It's just not

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<v Speaker 3>something that we're embedded to do. So I think that

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<v Speaker 3>starts off the pattern. And I think because of the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that women when they are child bearing age and

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<v Speaker 3>when they have children, it's already you know, you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to the doctor quite frequently during that time, and then

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<v Speaker 3>afterwards it's built into coming back to the doctor for

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<v Speaker 3>that So you know, we've we've created a space to

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<v Speaker 3>where women are very welcomed and are expected to go

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<v Speaker 3>to the doctor, and men we just don't put that

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<v Speaker 3>expectation there there's no space. Do we do that?

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<v Speaker 1>You're so right? Well, how do we change that?

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<v Speaker 3>You Well, I think it starts by just making sure

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<v Speaker 3>men to understand where they're vulnerable, right. It starts by

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<v Speaker 3>understanding that we have to put these whether it's pre college,

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<v Speaker 3>where it's your home from college, or whether it's just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you got a new job, you got to

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<v Speaker 3>be checked out for you. We have to put some

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<v Speaker 3>things in place that just allows men to know that

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<v Speaker 3>this is the time to go. And by having conversations

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<v Speaker 3>like we're having today and maybe changes that one person

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<v Speaker 3>out of talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, beib, Did anyone ever have a conversation with you

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<v Speaker 1>as a young man, it's time to go to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to go get a check up. Did that

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<v Speaker 1>ever happen for you?

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<v Speaker 2>No? But it was you know, it was sort of like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the stereotypical my mom. If something anything happened

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<v Speaker 2>to me, my mom would take me to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>got to go to the emergency right now or urgent care.

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<v Speaker 2>Urgent care was big. I feel like I had a

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<v Speaker 2>Z pack every month if I was sick or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. There's like, oh you got sick, I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>take a Z pack and that's.

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<v Speaker 3>How men get to the doctor when they have emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>But my dad, my father never went to the doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah at all. He still doesn't, and he's seventy six.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, nothing's wrong with me. What do I need?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And that's how we find out the problems. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you have that fall off of the ladder,

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<v Speaker 3>or we have that car accident, and then you get

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<v Speaker 3>to the doctor, it's like, oh, we're gonna do an

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<v Speaker 3>X ray. Oh, this is what we see, And then

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<v Speaker 3>that often starts conversations about what happens next. So I

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<v Speaker 3>like to say, in whatever way you get to see me,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll take it unless use as a springboard to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that you're okay in other areas as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense. How would you suggest that women such

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<v Speaker 1>as myself get their male counterpart to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor just for a general checkup, Like, I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure he's all good and that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to livel together in health and prospero.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to get anyone in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go ahead, It's okay, get him

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so let's let's just first of all, say that

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<v Speaker 3>it never serves well to preach, But I think we

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<v Speaker 3>learn more by following the example. So if you are

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<v Speaker 3>scheduling your yearly visit with your doctor, perhaps say you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I scheduled my visit today, what days good for me

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<v Speaker 3>to schedule yours?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very unassuming. It takes onus off of him for

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<v Speaker 3>having to make the call, but it also gets it done.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's an easy way to do it to where

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<v Speaker 3>it's just scheduled and it's not saying you need to

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<v Speaker 3>do it, say hey, I didn't mine, when do you

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<v Speaker 3>want me to do yours? It keeps it open and

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<v Speaker 3>it also makes him pick a day, and if it's

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<v Speaker 3>ignored revisited, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A great idea. I mean that's what happens with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I go keep myself checked up. I'm very proactive about

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<v Speaker 1>my health and about prevention, and I'm always saying to him,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? How can you make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you're healthy?

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<v Speaker 3>M m?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know I go to the dentist regularly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's a good start.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a doctor that it's a doctor. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm just an example of many, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>I just turned forty three. You know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a checkup since I was thirty eight, well,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely before COVID, so thirty eight, thirty nine, somewhere around there.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, just especially you know, prostate conversations are

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<v Speaker 2>out and about as you know, I mean, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of friends that you know. Now it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>more of an open discussion. You can talk about your

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<v Speaker 2>health with your your male friends. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I hang out a lot of sixty year olds and

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<v Speaker 2>so so.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of how are you feeling? Yeah, how

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<v Speaker 1>s your health?

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, definitely, I mean it's definitely more open now

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<v Speaker 2>for discussion than it probably was when I was definitely

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<v Speaker 2>in my twenties or thirties even, you know, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of come to the forefront.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, that's such. That's that's that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Now now easier said than done, because I haven't done anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but this is great, go preach it. Yes, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>should do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's ask the doctor when should they start

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<v Speaker 1>with their checkup? So tell us how they should go

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<v Speaker 1>about doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think as early as early twenties, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>good time to establish a relationship with the doctor. It's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like wanting to get to know someone before

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<v Speaker 3>you get really involved in that relationship, before you perhaps

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<v Speaker 3>get deeper into that relationship. It's helpful to establish relationship

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<v Speaker 3>because you're going to need to visit a doctor for

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<v Speaker 3>different things in life. If you need the antibiotic, it's

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<v Speaker 3>helpful to have the relationship so you can pick up

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<v Speaker 3>the phone and have a conversation about what do you

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<v Speaker 3>need to be doing. So I think earlier then later,

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<v Speaker 3>starting twenties, make sure you're up to date with any

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<v Speaker 3>medications that you need, any immunizations. If you're traveling, you

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<v Speaker 3>know yourself certain and it's also depending on your family history,

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<v Speaker 3>you may be at risk for other problems, right, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know establishing you know what was the health of

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<v Speaker 3>my parents, You know that have heart problems over there

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<v Speaker 3>are a history of cancers that may influence when you

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<v Speaker 3>start testing and looking for problems, and so that's important

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<v Speaker 3>to establish I think early on in your twenties. Now

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<v Speaker 3>as you get older in your thirties and in your forties,

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<v Speaker 3>those needs become a little bit more pronounced. Right you're

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<v Speaker 3>likely gone at some point. If you have insurance, you

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<v Speaker 3>have a job, they're going to probably say, hey, let's

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<v Speaker 3>get some blood work, right, So you're gonna check for diabetes,

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna check your cholesterol levels, You're gonna be checking

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<v Speaker 3>your blood pressure and perhaps even getting an EKG by

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<v Speaker 3>your thirties and certainly by your forties. And so it's progression,

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<v Speaker 3>but it starts, I think, by establishing that relationship so

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<v Speaker 3>that that can help dictate which way the conversation goes

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<v Speaker 3>when testing and screening's done. And so you don't wait

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<v Speaker 3>until the car breaks down. You're repairing small things as

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<v Speaker 3>it goes along. So it doesn't add up on.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes that makes great sense, doesn't it. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to repair your car, babe. It's rattling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got a rattle. Yeah, I gotta I got

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<v Speaker 2>no rattles right now, but I need to need to

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<v Speaker 2>prevent the rattle.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to prevent. You want to change before there

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<v Speaker 3>is a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, get the all change the transmission looked at.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this question. You said, find a

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<v Speaker 1>doctor in your twenties. For me, personally, it's always been

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming to find the right doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's tough. It can be tough because now there

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<v Speaker 3>are so many options now people have not even just locally,

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<v Speaker 3>there are people that now because since COVID, we do

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of virtual visits, mental health therapist, even just

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<v Speaker 3>your family doctor. Many people do this as a form

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<v Speaker 3>of practicing medicine like telehealth. Telehealth. Absolutely so I recommend

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<v Speaker 3>number one, if you have insurance, to start with that

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<v Speaker 3>because obviously there's a network of doctors. Within that group,

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<v Speaker 3>it shuts down and kind of creates a small pot

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<v Speaker 3>to choose from. After checking within your network, asking your

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<v Speaker 3>family and friends you know who you go to, who

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<v Speaker 3>do you like? They may know your preferences that can

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<v Speaker 3>help say where this big good fit for you. And

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<v Speaker 3>in the age of Google or any of the other

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<v Speaker 3>web searches, you know reviews are out there and spend

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<v Speaker 3>some time. Just like you look for a painter or

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<v Speaker 3>look for a mechanic, sometimes looking through Google reviews or

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<v Speaker 3>things like that can help you narrow down the search.

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<v Speaker 3>And let's face it, the first doctor you can go

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<v Speaker 3>to may not be the one that you have for

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of your life. But I think starting that

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<v Speaker 3>relationship allows you to identify those initial problems.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean do we have a doctor?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a doctor. I have a cardiologist, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a guynecologist, or head hormones specialist, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>brain doctorin yes, dermatologists, all the things, but not just

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<v Speaker 1>at a general practitioner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that general practitioners like I've referred to before.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the quarterback. They're going to help dictate all

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<v Speaker 3>the other pieces. So if you need to have that

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<v Speaker 3>heart doctor, if you need to have the orthopedis that

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<v Speaker 3>family doctor, that intern is, or that primary care doc.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to help you navigate the space because you

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned it can be very confusing. Do I need to

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<v Speaker 3>see this kind Do I need to see that specialist? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the benefit of having that primary care team that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to help you navigate that space that can be

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<v Speaker 3>very complex.

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<v Speaker 1>We need a quarterback, babe, we don't have a quarterback. No,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is not going well. How can we

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<v Speaker 1>play if we don't have a quarterback? No, okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to get a quarterback. That's number one. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you about what are the silent warning signs

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<v Speaker 1>that men ignore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so there's several of them. I'm going to start

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<v Speaker 3>with the ones that really get to us, the signs

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<v Speaker 3>and problems of your heart. One of the signs that

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<v Speaker 3>men can sometimes ignore is just fatigue. You know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you are finding that at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>or even before the end of the day, you're completely

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<v Speaker 3>wiped out to where you don't have the energy to

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<v Speaker 3>engage with your family the way you did before, that

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<v Speaker 3>could be signed there's something going on, perhaps with your heart,

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps with your thyroid, and so fatigue is one of

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<v Speaker 3>those real signs that it's not just you're getting older

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<v Speaker 3>or you've had a busy day. It's the consistency that

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<v Speaker 3>you're noticing on more and more fatigued and tired, give

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<v Speaker 3>a sign of a name you maybe you're losing play

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<v Speaker 3>that you're not saying. So fatigue is definitely a sign

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<v Speaker 3>that you cannot ignore. Another is an easy one of

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, you used to be able to walk

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<v Speaker 3>up and fight the steps, and now when you do that,

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<v Speaker 3>you're completely with it. Your short of breath, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>exhausting to where you can't catch your breath, and so

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<v Speaker 3>that's the warning sign that something's not quite right. In

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<v Speaker 3>my world, I'm a cold rectal surgeon, so one of

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<v Speaker 3>the other side, or changes in your body right to

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<v Speaker 3>narrow down on the cold regular space, changes in your stool,

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<v Speaker 3>changes in your bathroom habits, whether it be stool or urination,

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<v Speaker 3>Any change whether it be the frequency that you're going

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<v Speaker 3>or the or the output that you're seeing, the consistency,

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<v Speaker 3>the color, all those things, whether it be urine or

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<v Speaker 3>your number two activities, that's a that's a flag and

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<v Speaker 3>that's something that you shouldn't ignore. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Also a lot with gut help, right, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>being talked about more when we watched the documentary on

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix that was really interesting about just about your gut

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<v Speaker 2>in general, that we really don't think about how it works,

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<v Speaker 2>how much you know, your food goes through and then

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<v Speaker 2>it you know, captures the good stuff and then filters

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<v Speaker 2>out the bat. I mean, I think gut health is

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<v Speaker 2>very important.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially for men.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing more likely talked about now more likely talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we we we've seen a lot of talk

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<v Speaker 3>about bloating, and we just always have just bloated. I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's a whole TikTok craze about, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>bloated gut and people understanding now that it's okay to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it. It used to be an embarrassment. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm bloated of gas. It's so effected to who you

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<v Speaker 3>are as people.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you talked about it last night? As a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact, I believe what did we end up with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Because as you get older, sayings change, and especially for

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<v Speaker 1>women as you go through menopause. I believe that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>digestion is such a huge symptom of menopause. Like I've

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<v Speaker 1>been having new challenges. Let's just say, as I've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit older that I never had before.

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<v Speaker 2>Always something.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're not alone. You are absolutely not alone. That

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<v Speaker 3>is very common. I hear so many of my patients

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<v Speaker 3>come in even after we've talked about the problem they

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to talk about. We'll parlay, if not even from

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<v Speaker 3>the cell, the family members that are with them, about

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<v Speaker 3>their gut about you know, I'm having more gas, or

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<v Speaker 3>I can't eat food the same, or I can't process it,

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<v Speaker 3>or my bathroom habits have changed. I mean, that's very common,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think we all realized how common it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be less taboo than it is right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think when we first got married, got together,

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<v Speaker 1>we keep things very private. When it comes to that department,

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<v Speaker 1>the digestion. Let's just say I have.

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<v Speaker 2>To go to a different restroom in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>We have he has his routine. Everybody knows about it,

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<v Speaker 1>even though you think you're hiding it from everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>But very early, doctor, your routine is messed up. It's

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<v Speaker 2>good to have a root. I like a routine. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>most men, you don't want to break that routine. You

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<v Speaker 2>break that routine gets broken somehow, then yeah, then we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking to a doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>And so everybody has a different routine. So as long

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<v Speaker 3>as you don't compare your routine and expect the same

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<v Speaker 3>as yours, then you may be okay. But when you

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<v Speaker 3>notice it's changing that routine, then you got to pick

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<v Speaker 3>up the phone and say there's a problem something.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're looking at fatigue. We're looking for if your

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<v Speaker 1>winded just doing normal activities that you would normally be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do. We're looking at changes in your digestion,

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<v Speaker 1>changes in your output absolutely and your routine. Changes in

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<v Speaker 1>your digestive routine. Those are all pretty silent warnings.

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<v Speaker 3>And pains also, whether that be chest pain or shoulder

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<v Speaker 3>pain or back pain. Now, these are your bodies sitting

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<v Speaker 3>in you kind of red flags that there's something that's

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<v Speaker 3>not right. Pain should not be ignored, it should be explained,

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<v Speaker 3>and it should be understood.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been I've had a situation, you remember this where

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<v Speaker 1>I was just doubled over in pain and I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something terrible is happening to me. I'm having an

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<v Speaker 1>appendix thing or something ruptured inside the way. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just gas, like trapped gas under inside my organs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so but again, just understanding that allows you

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<v Speaker 3>to live a life. But if you have that pain

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<v Speaker 3>and we don't know why you're having that, good, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what's happening here, right, And that's when we

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<v Speaker 3>took the danger zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, we want to talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>colon cancer because it is the number one cause of

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<v Speaker 1>cancer death for men under fifty. What do you have

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<v Speaker 1>to say about that? Should men start looking at their

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<v Speaker 1>colon health at what age and how.

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<v Speaker 3>So recently that that age changed? Everyone always remember a

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<v Speaker 3>fifty as that magic age. But we were starting to

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<v Speaker 3>see more younger patients, younger people with colon cancers, and

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<v Speaker 3>not just colon cancers, but advanced colon cancers. So that

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<v Speaker 3>recommendation is now, at the age of forty five, you

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<v Speaker 3>should have your first screening for corectal cancer. Unless there's

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<v Speaker 3>a family history of these problems, then you're probably going

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<v Speaker 3>to start that testing, maybe even as early as ten

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<v Speaker 3>years before that family member started having their problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting talking about these things as men. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sitting here listening about the screening and stuff. I'm coming

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<v Speaker 2>up on forty five. I've got it, like the screening process.

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<v Speaker 2>So even just hearing that as a man, you go, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't need to screen me. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>what that is. I don't even know how I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get screened.

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<v Speaker 1>What's a screen?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you screen?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? My god, it's not as hard as you think

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<v Speaker 3>it is. And there are many ways in which we screen.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, most people think about the colonoscopy. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of videos and TV shows they made fun of

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<v Speaker 3>the colon It's kind a bad rap. It's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the easiest tests you'll ever do, one of the best

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<v Speaker 3>maps you'll ever have.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's so good. Yeah, I've had a colonoscopy and

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<v Speaker 1>I quite enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>I did okay, Yeah, see, I had I had something

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<v Speaker 2>in my head that when I was little, I had

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<v Speaker 2>to get you know, I had to drink the chalk,

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<v Speaker 2>to put a camera down to look at my stomach, YadA, YadA, YadA,

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<v Speaker 2>and like even like thinking about a screening for colon

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't sound like a good time to you.

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<v Speaker 3>And then but here's the other thing. If if you

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<v Speaker 3>are an average risk, meaning you don't have family history

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<v Speaker 3>of colon problems, where you're not having symptoms, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 3>there are other tests that may be allowed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you've seen the camercials. Now for the poop in the

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<v Speaker 3>box test.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait what go back?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>Poop in the box?

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<v Speaker 3>You just take a little box, a little thing you

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<v Speaker 3>put in your toilet, You take a specimen and you

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<v Speaker 3>send it to the company and they for colon cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>And so there is no colonoscopy. And again that's for

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<v Speaker 3>persons who are average risks, who don't have symptoms that

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<v Speaker 3>you can poop in the box.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm going to make you poop in

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<v Speaker 1>the box later.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben, you know, yeah, well not later, so tomorrow morning,

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<v Speaker 2>keep it on the routine.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually he actually may want the colonoscopy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Yeah, now that we hyped it up so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we actually have new new tests coming out now

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<v Speaker 3>where there are I think we're going to get to

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<v Speaker 3>the point where screening is like a blood test, like

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<v Speaker 3>you check for your cholesterol. That a part of that

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<v Speaker 3>screening could become, you know, just checking your blood to

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<v Speaker 3>see whether or not you are having signs or potential

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<v Speaker 3>changes that could indicate you're r at risk. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I think there are lots of options, but it starts

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<v Speaker 3>by having that conversation with idocrat, like I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to have the colonoscar or I don't want to do

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<v Speaker 3>the prep, but you may not have to. Maybe other

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<v Speaker 3>things we can do. Let's just talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you're we're talking about colonoscopy, We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>colon and pooping in boxes. Is all very very good information.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know. Is the prostate check different than

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<v Speaker 1>the poop in the box or coolonoscopy?

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<v Speaker 3>So the prostate check is a little different now. Most

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<v Speaker 3>people traditionally think that the finger in the bottom filling

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<v Speaker 3>for the prostate, right, and it's a small glen, it's

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<v Speaker 3>at the base of the bladder. But here's the key

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<v Speaker 3>screening for prostate cancer doesn't necessarily involve the finger in

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom, so many people don't go to get the

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<v Speaker 3>exam because they don't want to have to finger in

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom. If you're getting screened prostate cancer, recommendations from

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<v Speaker 3>the American Neurological Association is a blood test ASA.

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<v Speaker 1>No coffee, so no, no, turn your head and cough anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, no no, that's not necessary to look for

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<v Speaker 3>prostate cancer. So if that's holding.

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<v Speaker 1>You back, I bet that's holding a lot of people back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And with all these cancers, the sooner we find it,

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<v Speaker 3>the better you are, the better the outcomes are. So

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it just starts by having that conversation with

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<v Speaker 3>you doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the key, though, right, don't you think, doctor Rufaden.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's prevention. It's knowledge and prevention because there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much we can do now with modern medicine.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's so much information out there, and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of information it is good. A lot of information is good,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it be from social media or whether it be

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<v Speaker 3>from the you know, well known sites over the Internet.

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<v Speaker 3>But a lot of information is not good, and so

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<v Speaker 3>it's important to identify kind of the good sites the

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<v Speaker 3>reliables for evidence based or the sites that you know

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<v Speaker 3>that you can take to the bank, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>just one person's experience that then becomes dogma.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is good information right here, people

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<v Speaker 1>that we're giving you take key. Yes, yes, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>so lucky to have you here. This is a crazy subject.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we talk about a rectile dysfunction?

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a crazy subject.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you're saying, we got to talk about it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>We got to.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about it because you know, let's face it, by

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<v Speaker 3>the time men are in their fifties, you know that

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<v Speaker 3>percentage maybe up to fifty percent of manual experience some

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<v Speaker 3>form of rectile dysfunction. And I think the misnomer is

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<v Speaker 3>that it's immediately just the problem with the penis. And

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<v Speaker 3>in reality, when we have a rectilis function, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the first things that your doctor should be looking at

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<v Speaker 3>is what else is happening with your body? Right? Is

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<v Speaker 3>this a sign of having a problem with your heart? Right?

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 3>We need blood flow to perform, but if there's an

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<v Speaker 3>issue with blood getting to where it needs to perform,

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<v Speaker 3>that may be the problem that we need to identify

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<v Speaker 3>and address. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought there.

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<v Speaker 3>Are signs of symptoms, take the focus I think from

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<v Speaker 3>that area to what's happening with your body? What else

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<v Speaker 3>is going on that can be consured. But it's quite common,

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<v Speaker 3>but it doesn't always mean that it's you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>terminal event.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's good, that's good. I like that message. What

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of conversations about receiving hairlines? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything you can do from a medical standpoint, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's a supplementation or diet to sort of help with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the first thing to do is to recognize it early.

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<v Speaker 3>Many of the treatment options that are available, they will

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<v Speaker 3>tell you the results may be better if initiated early

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<v Speaker 3>in the process. So I mean, I shave mind. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is exactly that.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking nice by the way, but if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Start from this and wanted to get where he is,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to have some challenge, right, So you have

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<v Speaker 3>to when you initially see that either there is balding

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<v Speaker 3>on the crown or there is thinning up the hair

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<v Speaker 3>or receiving hairline, that's the time there to initiate some

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<v Speaker 3>form of treatment, and there are many. There's some over

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<v Speaker 3>the counter options that you can do that don't require

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<v Speaker 3>a prescription that sometimes take six to twelve months to

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<v Speaker 3>see results, and it can be effective at allowing here

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<v Speaker 3>to regrow and perhaps become more full. And then there

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<v Speaker 3>are prescriptions and there are procedures that people can do,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it be implants, whether it be you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>whole list of things that dermatologists and other specialists can

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<v Speaker 3>help you with. But the key here is to identify

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<v Speaker 3>it early and to act on it early. But know

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<v Speaker 3>that it's very common obviously is you get older, it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna happen to most men and women by the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that women will also have some degree of thinning as

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<v Speaker 3>they get older, and so it's a part of life.

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<v Speaker 3>But as we choose ourselves, like you're the title of

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast, it's one of those things that we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to say, this is important to me, Let me seek

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<v Speaker 3>and let me know identify options that can help.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Tell him that what you always say

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<v Speaker 1>about your.

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<v Speaker 2>Hair, Oh, like why I think I have good hair? Yeah,

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 2>because you know, yeah, I have big hips so and

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<v Speaker 2>I was blessed with a high crack so and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to counterbalance that I got good hair.

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<v Speaker 1>So he thinks it's one or the other, Like, yeah,

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>he got the big hips. So he's gonna have good hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, then I have a high crack. They

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<v Speaker 2>used to call me high crack in baseball in college.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, I so you know that that's my theory.

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<v Speaker 3>Where did this come from?

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>This is his theory.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a theory that you can't have it all.

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 2>You can't have it all. You just can't have it all.

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 2>So you know, Brad Pitt's got something wrong with him.

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<v Speaker 2>We just don't know, like you know. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've got some bigger hips down there, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>had you know, I can't you know, I could never

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<v Speaker 2>sag in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have good hair.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have decent hair. Yeah yeah, so I have

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<v Speaker 2>decent I was blessed with decent hair. Also my grandfather.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it comes from your grandfather, your mother grandfather's side.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's a myth, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a myth?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I mean I've certainly heard that. I know that genetically,

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<v Speaker 3>if if your father has experienced part of baldness, you

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<v Speaker 3>are I think one number I saw it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>five to six times more likely to have that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So there is a genetic link to it in some way.

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<v Speaker 3>But hey, if you're blessed, you know, we take blessings

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<v Speaker 3>of all shapes.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm maybe I'm gonna go maybe I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go bald.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Ill, my dad is definitely receding victim.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, that's okay. I would ask, what is one

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<v Speaker 1>piece of advice that all men should take away from

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation today.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think the biggest piece that I want men

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<v Speaker 3>to take about take away from this conversation is that

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<v Speaker 3>I want them to understand the importance of just talking

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 3>about their problems, talking about not only just the physical problems.

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 3>We've talked a lot about mental challenges that we can have.

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<v Speaker 3>It's often one of the things that men suppress and

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<v Speaker 3>don't share as much. But being open to talk about problems.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I like establishing relationship with a doctor

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<v Speaker 3>because to me, that is just the great foundation that

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<v Speaker 3>helps us sustain our lives and have a really longevity,

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<v Speaker 3>have longevity with our lives. And so just talking about

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<v Speaker 3>it with the doctor that you're comfortable with that you

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<v Speaker 3>can talk about your what your hip to hear ratio

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 3>or you're pooping in the bogs, or your mental health

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 3>job having those types of conversations early and throughout your

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<v Speaker 3>life can really help you have so much fulfillment data.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the mental health, I think that's just huge,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah right now, especially with men, especially with older men.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, you know, I spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>you know a lot of time with you know, guys

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<v Speaker 2>in their fifties and sixties, like off of these these people,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, to see even those men talk about

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<v Speaker 2>mental health and just discuss it is it's wonderful to

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<v Speaker 2>see and just how are you feeling, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>How you really feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you really feeling? And it's more of like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not great today, and then that conversation goes further,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So it's that's really nice to see. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, as you said by example.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're also not suffering in silence. Yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's a community that allows them to not feel

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<v Speaker 3>alone and help them feel connected so that they can

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<v Speaker 3>be well.

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<v Speaker 2>And also with even on the you know, physical side too,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of men, you know, if something's hurting them,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll just prolong it, not say anything, probably not to

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<v Speaker 2>tell their spouse because if if I tell you Oh,

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I've got something wrong with me. What are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to do? Just kind of hammer it, hammer it, hammer it?

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 2>So what's just not say anything at all? So I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that is another hurdle.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait what do you mean by hammer? Hammer?

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Hammer?

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>And I'm confused? What do you like if you tell

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>me something's wrong with you?

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then I'm like, oh, well this is hurting me.

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 2>You're going to be like, well you need to get

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 2>that checked out. Well, no, it's not that serious.

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>So then you're still going nagging.

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<v Speaker 2>Not no, And I didn't mean it like that, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to help the people that are hearing this,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is not just a conversation that you and

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<v Speaker 1>I would have.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I think that across the landscape of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in a relationship, and you know you're very concerned about

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 2>me if something's.

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<v Speaker 1>Hurting you, I'm sure you to go be proactive.

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<v Speaker 2>To absolutely, But sometimes I'm just telling you I don't

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 2>really need to go or I don't want to go.

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 2>But I also think that that's that's what this conversation

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 2>is about.

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, So so I think in that case, an

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<v Speaker 3>option could be maybe making a mental note of that complaint,

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 3>maybe circling back around, maybe not in that moment, just listening, okay,

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 3>my back a sorry. Maybe it's a week later you say, hey,

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 3>are you having more back pain? In very just sort

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 3>of conversational manner following up on whatever that complaint was,

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 3>because there are certain issues that you'll have just for

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 3>a day. Some of you have for a few days.

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 3>But if something's experienced for a week or two months,

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<v Speaker 3>six months, then we know we're dealing with something more serious.

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 3>So maybe just coming back around to it to say, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned last week your backwards sty you still have

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<v Speaker 3>any problemts with your back, and just leaving it open.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that men should take supplements or vitamins

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<v Speaker 1>or think about their diets.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. A daily vitamin, is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? So I think diet and what we put in

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 3>our bodies super important, right It connects our gut health

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 3>and all the things that we've talked about. I think

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<v Speaker 3>if our diets are are balanced, if what we're eating

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<v Speaker 3>is I don't think we have to focus as much

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<v Speaker 3>on the supplements right now. There are many examples of

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 3>medical conditions that require supplements. Right if you've had certain

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 3>surgical procedures. We have other medical issues, they may say,

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, you need to have the B twelve, you

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 3>need to have the vitamin D, et cetera. So your

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 3>medical history may dictate what you need. But for the

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 3>average risk person, the average person, I think just a

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<v Speaker 3>balanced diet, eating the colors of the rainbow, eating a

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 3>balance of you know, your fruit, your veggies, all of

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 3>those things, more vegetables than meat. You know, those things

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 3>will allow you to get those nutrients, those vitamins in

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 3>them without having to spend a whole lot on extra supplements.

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<v Speaker 3>The times they're necessary and useful, but I think we

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<v Speaker 3>tend to rely on them more than just eating well.

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<v Speaker 2>On that, I have a question about that. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people I still do it, the interminute fasting.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on that? I mean, I tried

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 2>it for a while and I actually liked it, and

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm still kind of on this, Like I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>eat between like eleven, or I eat from eleven to seven,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't really try to eat at night.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on a camera right now and microphone, so I

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<v Speaker 1>just want you to know.

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<v Speaker 2>That I'm lying. He's like, but definitely, I like I

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<v Speaker 2>try I try to eat from eleven to seven. I

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<v Speaker 2>try to keep it in that range and try to

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<v Speaker 2>eat sensibly. But is is that another kind of wisetail

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<v Speaker 2>with the fasting or.

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<v Speaker 3>Fasting has many benefits. I think to rely on it though, however,

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<v Speaker 3>as the maintenance plan is probably not I think realistic

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<v Speaker 3>in the long term. You know, if you're people use

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<v Speaker 3>fasting for seasons or periods for for you know, health,

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 3>but to rely on it for every single day for

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 3>the rest of your life may not be practical because

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 3>as you travel, as you go and there's gonna be

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.439
<v Speaker 3>times you're going to need to you're a different time

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 3>zone and you're eating. You have to have that flexibility

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 3>to know that it may be a part of what

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<v Speaker 3>you do. I mean, I know several people that will,

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, several times a year they'll do a fast

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 3>for either spiritual reasons or for just the mental component

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 3>of it. And so it may be a part of

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 3>your routine, but now it may be it's not the

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 3>basis of your routine. That becomes just sort of a

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 3>branch of what you do to maintain your health.

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<v Speaker 1>May I ask you some of our listeners questions, Yes, okay, great,

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<v Speaker 1>Mackenzick would like to know what would you suggest to

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<v Speaker 1>counteract the effects of falling testosterone levels in older men?

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<v Speaker 3>So there are you know, I always start with talking

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 3>with your doctor to see kind of what are the

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 3>other variables and factors with your health, right, that's the

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 3>first thing we should establish. And there are several medications

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 3>that can be provided, prescription medication. I know you can

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 3>find a lot of these commercials either in you know,

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 3>on the internet or on television about taking these testastrum supplements.

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 3>Those may not be regulated by the FDA. So asking

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 3>your doctor about are there prescriptions and are they're balancing

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.399
<v Speaker 3>or are they checking my labs to make sure I'm

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 3>responding appropriately, because if they're checking blood work, they should

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 3>see changes. Are we getting the right dose in the

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 3>right you know way? Do I need an injection? Do

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.879
<v Speaker 3>I need a pill? Do I need a crane? All

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 3>of those things and in what ways is that low

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 3>testosterrum influencing my life? Am I fatigued? Do not have

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 3>the stamina in the gym or at home? I mean,

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.080
<v Speaker 3>all of those things will influence Am I on the

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 3>right does and am getting in the right way with

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 3>the right frequency.

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of conversation around menopause right now, thank goodness,

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of talk about estrogen and adding estrogen supplementation.

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>It's quite a controversial subject. Is it kind of the

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>same thing for testosterone for men?

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Low T, Yeah, low T.

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't get the same attention. I've seen several advertisements

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 3>on television regarding low T. Now we're having the conversation more.

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 3>But it is equally important. It is equally important because

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 3>it can influence, just like menopause, so many aspects of

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 3>your life that aren't just what you think it's about.

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.399
<v Speaker 3>It's about the way you feel, the way your energy is,

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 3>the way you're processing throughout the day mentally. So you're right,

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 3>it absolutely is just as important.

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 1>And the best way to find out if you have

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>low testosterone is a blood test.

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 3>It's a blood test, right so your doctor kid can

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 3>can order and they can follow it to see if

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 3>your body is responding to the administration of whatever supplements

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 3>they may be providing for you.

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Very interesting, Okay, you want to read this one.

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good one. At MPa seven eight one one.

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:21.280
<v Speaker 2>How long should I let pass between checkups?

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Everybody has a different frequency. There's some of my patients

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:27.799
<v Speaker 3>that I want to see them every three months. There's

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 3>something I need to see yearly for just all comers

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 3>average risk at least every year or two, and depending

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 3>on what the problems may may not be, that frequency

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 3>may need to be increased. So you may need to

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 3>see them once a year or twice a year, but

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 3>at least on average every year or two. You need

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 3>to be checking in for just a physical exam, blood work,

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 3>looking for a low blood counts, looking for your cholesterol numbers,

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 3>may be checking your heart the things that you're not

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 3>going to perhaps see right away, checking your thyro levels

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 3>and making sure you're up to date with all the

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 3>screenings where they we prostate lung cancer, all those types

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 3>of things, making sure you're up to date with those.

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, someone would like to know Ray Ruez three three eight,

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>would like to know what is better sauna or steam

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 1>room and are there benefits to either.

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so there are some published reports about how sitting

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 3>in a sauna can help lower blood pressure, how obviously

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 3>it can help with the muscular skeletal system, but the

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 3>benefits are widely researched and published. I think there's probably

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 3>a preference of which you prefer whether you want to

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 3>sit in moisture or do you want to sit in

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 3>dry heat and create that moisture. I think after a

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 3>workout there's definitely some you know, relaxation of just having

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 3>them lifted or run and just having a moment to

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:01.359
<v Speaker 3>just decompress. But there are some help benefits that are

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 3>published with infrared saunas. But I think it's probably a

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 3>preference of which you prefer of sitting in sort of

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 3>the steam versus singing dry heat.

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I have a side question on that, doctor, I've been

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 2>looking into cold plunges. Do you have any knowledge on that?

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean I've heard.

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Everything everybody's talking about the cold.

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like the circulatory system, you know, the benefits inflammation

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 2>cox Yeah, because I've for me personally, I've had, you know,

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 2>some neck stiffness in the next and you know, I

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 2>think it was a lot of stress and then hurting myself.

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:40.839
<v Speaker 2>But what do you think about I heard someone told

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.359
<v Speaker 2>me and then I looked them up like a cold

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 2>plunge with do you write what what are your thoughts?

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, I mean you I saw what was that video?

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Was that Lebron dump them? Yeah? Yeah? And you can

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 3>find cryo therapy facilities popping up everywhere everywhere. I think

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 3>it can be a part of the equation. As always,

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 3>I always say talk with your doctor before you make

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 3>any decision like that. But I don't think that done

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 3>in you know, a frequency of one time a week,

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 3>one time a month, whatever that frequency may be, that

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 3>you're in any danger. But the published report talk about

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 3>the release of toxins and getting rid of the oxidative

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 3>stresses in your body. I don't think it's going to

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 3>be the cure all to all the problems. But I

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 3>also don't think it's going to really hurt, right facilitate

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 3>its use to actually use it.

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not doing it. I'm telling you right now.

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm I don't want to go in cold water. It's

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:44.319
<v Speaker 1>just not I did that was for show. I had

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 1>to do that, But I don't think I'll ever do

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:46.319
<v Speaker 1>that again.

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna fill the baths up up with

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 2>some ice.

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:52.439
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of ice. Yeah, give it a shot.

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>How about you ask him this one.

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is a good one. Doc at Diamond Dot photog,

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 2>how do we get our wives to let us play

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 2>more golf for our mental health without guilt?

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I think he is at diamond photo.

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, this is a great question. A

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 2>lot of men want to know. I know I'm one

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 2>of them.

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, and so let's substitute golf for any activity that

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:26.320
<v Speaker 3>you enjoy, that you provide that provides you some mental benefit.

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:30.959
<v Speaker 3>We lead stressful lives and we have to have outlets

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 3>to release that stress, to recenter, and also to have

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:42.720
<v Speaker 3>time with friends. That's very important. And the balance comes

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 3>and I'm sure my wife's listening to this, it's going

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 3>to shake her head. The balance comes because you have

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:52.320
<v Speaker 3>to I'm just gonna say he didn't say that out loud,

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 3>but I didn't know. The balance comes is you have

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 3>to take care of all of it, right, So you

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 3>have to have that balance with your friends and be

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:04.359
<v Speaker 3>able to play golf or run or swim and whatever

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 3>your activity. But also you have to come back around

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 3>to your partner and be able to balance that with

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 3>their time. And so I think if you can manage

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, we've spent our date night Friday night. I

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 3>said date night Friday or your Wednesday or whatever that

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 3>time is, and now I need the time to have

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.880
<v Speaker 3>with my friends or to realize it's a part of

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 3>your health, right, you have to fill your tank and

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 3>you have to be able to have that friendship which

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 3>is super important for your own mental health. Yeah.

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you like that answer?

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Did you hear that answer?

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I heard them. I heard them loud and clear. You

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>got to fill your tank.

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Did you both hear the same thing or different things?

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Did you hear the balance?

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing with golf, and I think for a

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of men, I think it checks a lot of

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:03.439
<v Speaker 2>boxes and just like a four and a half five

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:06.799
<v Speaker 2>hour time frame and then you're done. You check your

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:10.360
<v Speaker 2>social box, you check your activity, you check being in

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 2>nature for your man, and you know, and then there's

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.720
<v Speaker 2>some stigmas around it where you know, people are drinking

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 2>too much in excess and screwing around. But yeah, in

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 2>all those boxes get checked with just one simple activity

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 2>because you're right, you go out, you you know the

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:29.879
<v Speaker 2>social aspect that you are with friends, you are talking

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 2>about a game, you're in nature. So yeah, I thought

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 2>that was a great answer.

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Doctor.

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Now, if you're on a golf team, you need a

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:42.399
<v Speaker 2>little bit more, you know, time to practice and kind

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:43.320
<v Speaker 2>of you know.

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>He's a professional golfer. I don't know if you know.

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:49.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm not professional, but I'm on a team.

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Where we're going to work on a balance.

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:51.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that that just brings me to my last question

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 1>here from Jeordie Stevens ninety four. Mental health super important.

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's get men talking about it.

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's get men. Men don't always show the same

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 3>signs that they are having challenges for the mental health

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 3>and women. They may not cry, but they may appear

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 3>more angry. They may not lash out, they may become

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 3>more reserved or withdrawn, and so it's balance and understanding

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 3>the signs, and they may not even be aware of

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 3>the signs. As you get older, as life changes, you react,

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 3>and whether it be as you get closer to retirement,

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 3>or as your kids go off to college, or as

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:44.719
<v Speaker 3>wherever those things are, those things in your life can

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 3>affect your mental health. So it's first letting men know

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 3>that you are not alone, that creating a support system

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:55.359
<v Speaker 3>that can help get them through these moments, and then

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 3>seeking professional help. If these are spilling over into your

0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 3>life where you're not sleeping well, you're not performing well

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 3>at work, you're lashing out at the family, all of

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:10.319
<v Speaker 3>these things can indicate that we need to seek more

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 3>help and and and and not suffering silence, not suffering science.

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 3>I think that's that's super important that men know that

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:22.320
<v Speaker 3>they have to support not only their families, but their doctors,

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 3>mental health specialists especially.

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's just so beautiful that the stigma

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>is lessening now and that people are talking about it

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:35.239
<v Speaker 1>with each other, just having the conversations about how are

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you feeling and are you happy or are you feeling

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 1>good about things?

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I think those are just important conversations that we don't

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 1>often have.

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.399
<v Speaker 3>So sometimes it gets the way men that are brought

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 3>up not show your emotion, be.

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Tough men, don't cry, Yeah.

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:55.239
<v Speaker 3>Don't cry. And in reality we create a culture where

0:46:55.239 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 3>men are suffering in silence and we are tear in

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 3>that away one conversation like this at a time. So

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 3>so definitely thank you for bringing that one up.

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh my gosh, thank you so much for giving

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 1>us your time and answering all of our silly questions

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 1>and our serious.

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 3>Questions, great questions.

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you so much.

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, doctor, Thank you for the opportunity.

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Bye.

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Doctor mcvatt, Bye doctor bye.

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:25.400
<v Speaker 1>He was a delight, he was great.

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I love doctor mcvadden.

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to hang out with him, Well do you.

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I would love to go to South Carolina.

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you could go golfing with him.

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you golfer.

0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 1>So, honey, how did all that land for you?

0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:44.839
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was great. You know, I do need

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 2>to take my health a little bit more seriously. I

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:51.840
<v Speaker 2>do need to be proactive preventative. We don't have a doctor.

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.879
<v Speaker 2>We have to find a doctor. And that's another thing.

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 2>It's just taking time to better yourself, to get ahead

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 2>of stuff. You know, I'm in my forties now. I

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't really need to think about that in my thirties,

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:05.200
<v Speaker 2>or I mean, I.

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Guess I should have.

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 2>I think it's all good stuff that we need to

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:11.799
<v Speaker 2>break that stereotype for the mail, you know.

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think that is great. You heard his

0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>messaging and it kind of resonated with you about it

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:22.800
<v Speaker 1>that it's important for you even you need to choose

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 1>yourself sometimes.

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. I love the colon Ascoby talk. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that got me fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Got you excited?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeap?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, I'm sorry. I know it's rough being a man, isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It so hard?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, mission accomplished, I guess right. Thank you, honey for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on the pod and being so open to these conversations.

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<v Speaker 3>My pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me. Love you, I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Again. A big thank you to doctor McFadden joining us today.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that both Dave and I learned a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope you did too. In honor of Men's

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<v Speaker 1>Health Month, as we continue to choose ourselves weekly here

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<v Speaker 1>on our podcast, I want you to mentally check in

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<v Speaker 1>with your body. And I don't care what gender you are,

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<v Speaker 1>may and woman, whatever you are, this is for all

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<v Speaker 1>of us. Have you been ignoring a persistent ache or pain.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been putting off a checkup appointment, Well, this

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<v Speaker 1>is your friendly reminder to make sure you choose to

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<v Speaker 1>listen and love your body, which means make sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>operating in top shape. I love you and I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to stick around for as long as possible. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for listening to I Choose Me. You can follow us

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<v Speaker 1>and doctor McFadden by checking out all of our social

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<v Speaker 1>links in the show notes and hey, would you guys

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<v Speaker 1>do me a favor make sure to follow rate and

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<v Speaker 1>leave a review for the podcast. I love seeing that,

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<v Speaker 1>My bosses love seeing that, and you know what, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right here. Next week, I hope you choose to

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<v Speaker 1>be here too,