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Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This is the podcast all

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Speaker 1: about the choices we make and where they lead us.

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Speaker 1: Remember when I promised you guys that we would talk

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Speaker 1: about some man stuff. Well, June is men's health month,

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Speaker 1: so I wanted to have a conversation dedicated to this

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Speaker 1: important topic because I know we have male listeners out there. Hello,

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Speaker 1: I love you, and we have a lot of women

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Speaker 1: who have male partners or you know, you just have

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Speaker 1: a guy in your life that you care about. I

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Speaker 1: have a certain man in my life and he gets

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Speaker 1: me so riled up on the subject, the taking care

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Speaker 1: of oneself subject. So he is going to join us

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Speaker 1: for this episode.

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Speaker 2: Hello, babe, Hi honey.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we are kind of different when it comes

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Speaker 1: to our health, you know, taking care of ourselves, and

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Speaker 1: it has several times now I think, become just like

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Speaker 1: a little rift between us. It usually goes a little

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Speaker 1: something like this. I say, honey, hey, you know you

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Speaker 1: should have that neck issue checked out maybe, or have

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Speaker 1: you had a physical lately, or you know, prevention it's key,

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Speaker 1: and you'll say, well.

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Speaker 2: You know, my neck actually feels better. I'm feeling fine,

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Speaker 2: and who has the time to go to the doctor.

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Speaker 2: It's too much?

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Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, as you can see, this is why I

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Speaker 1: get a little irritated because I care about you and

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Speaker 1: selfishly I want you around in my life for a

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Speaker 1: long time, and it would be incredible if you would

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Speaker 1: put a little effort into staying healthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very important subject I get.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Hopefully our guest today can give me a little

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Speaker 1: backup here. You know what, I'm actually used to this

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Speaker 1: with the girls. If I say something sometimes they don't

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Speaker 1: really hear it, but if someone else says the same thing,

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Speaker 1: it's like a revelation. So, babe, get ready for your

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Speaker 1: aha moment. Our guest today is a Board certified surgeon.

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Speaker 1: A frequent guest on The Today Show. He is an

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Speaker 1: associate professor at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine.

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Speaker 1: He specializes in treatments of disorders affecting the large intestines

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Speaker 1: and is highly skilled in a range of procedures, including colonoscopies.

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Speaker 1: And you know, he's just a general wealth of health knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome doctor Cedric McFadden to the I Choose Me Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Doc, Hi, doctor, how are you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we are good. Believe me. We are so glad

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Speaker 1: that you are here. Because this is like the age

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Speaker 1: old question, why do men not go to the doctor

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Speaker 1: as much as women?

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Speaker 3: That's an age old question with an age old answer.

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Speaker 3: The many for that. Let's face it, women are more

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Speaker 3: used to going to the doctor. In fact, we kind

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Speaker 3: of start women off as early as they're late teens,

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Speaker 3: yearly and so it's embedded into the culture that women

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Speaker 3: eighteen or when I was twenty, no one said you

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Speaker 3: need to go for your yearly checkup. It's just not

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Speaker 3: something that we're embedded to do. So I think that

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Speaker 3: starts off the pattern. And I think because of the

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Speaker 3: fact that women when they are child bearing age and

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Speaker 3: when they have children, it's already you know, you're going

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Speaker 3: to the doctor quite frequently during that time, and then

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Speaker 3: that So you know, we've we've created a space to

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Speaker 3: to the doctor, and men we just don't put that

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Speaker 3: expectation there there's no space. Do we do that?

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Speaker 1: You're so right? Well, how do we change that?

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Speaker 3: You Well, I think it starts by just making sure

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Speaker 3: men to understand where they're vulnerable, right. It starts by

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Speaker 3: understanding that we have to put these whether it's pre college,

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Speaker 3: you know, you got a new job, you got to

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Speaker 3: be checked out for you. We have to put some

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Speaker 3: things in place that just allows men to know that

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Speaker 3: this is the time to go. And by having conversations

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Speaker 1: Right, beib, Did anyone ever have a conversation with you

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Speaker 1: as a young man, it's time to go to the doctor.

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Speaker 1: You need to go get a check up. Did that

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Speaker 2: No? But it was you know, it was sort of like,

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Speaker 2: you know, the stereotypical my mom. If something anything happened

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Speaker 2: to me, my mom would take me to you know,

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Speaker 2: Urgent care was big. I feel like I had a

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Speaker 3: How men get to the doctor when they have emergency.

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Speaker 2: But my dad, my father never went to the doctor,

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Speaker 2: yeah at all. He still doesn't, and he's seventy six.

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Speaker 2: He's like, nothing's wrong with me. What do I need?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's how we find out the problems. And

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Speaker 3: you know, you have that fall off of the ladder,

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Speaker 3: to the doctor, it's like, oh, we're gonna do an

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Speaker 3: that often starts conversations about what happens next. So I

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Speaker 3: like to say, in whatever way you get to see me,

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Speaker 3: we'll take it unless use as a springboard to make

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Speaker 3: sure that you're okay in other areas as well.

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Speaker 1: That makes sense. How would you suggest that women such

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Speaker 1: as myself get their male counterpart to go to the

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Speaker 1: doctor just for a general checkup, Like, I'm just curious.

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure he's all good and that

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Speaker 1: we're going to livel together in health and prospero.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get anyone in trouble.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go ahead, It's okay, get him

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Speaker 3: Well, so let's let's just first of all, say that

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Speaker 3: it never serves well to preach, But I think we

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Speaker 3: learn more by following the example. So if you are

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Speaker 3: scheduling your yearly visit with your doctor, perhaps say you know,

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Speaker 3: I scheduled my visit today, what days good for me

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Speaker 2: That's a great idea.

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Speaker 3: It's very unassuming. It takes onus off of him for

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Speaker 3: having to make the call, but it also gets it done.

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Speaker 3: So that's an easy way to do it to where

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Speaker 3: it's just scheduled and it's not saying you need to

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Speaker 3: it also makes him pick a day, and if it's

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Speaker 1: A great idea. I mean that's what happens with us.

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Speaker 1: I go keep myself checked up. I'm very proactive about

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Speaker 1: my health and about prevention, and I'm always saying to him,

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Speaker 3: M m?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know I go to the dentist regularly.

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Speaker 2: That's a doctor that it's a doctor. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think I'm just an example of many, you know, because

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Speaker 2: I just turned forty three. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 2: I've had a checkup since I was thirty eight, well,

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Speaker 2: definitely before COVID, so thirty eight, thirty nine, somewhere around there.

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Speaker 2: So you know, just especially you know, prostate conversations are

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Speaker 2: a lot of friends that you know. Now it's it's

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Speaker 2: more of an open discussion. You can talk about your

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Speaker 2: I hang out a lot of sixty year olds and

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of how are you feeling? Yeah, how

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Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely, I mean it's definitely more open now

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Speaker 1: That's great, that's such. That's that's that's great.

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Speaker 2: Now now easier said than done, because I haven't done anything.

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Speaker 1: You talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is great, go preach it. Yes, everybody

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Speaker 2: should do this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's ask the doctor when should they start

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Speaker 3: So I think as early as early twenties, it's a

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Speaker 3: good time to establish a relationship with the doctor. It's

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Speaker 3: kind of like wanting to get to know someone before

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Speaker 3: get deeper into that relationship. It's helpful to establish relationship

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Speaker 3: because you're going to need to visit a doctor for

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Speaker 3: different things in life. If you need the antibiotic, it's

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Speaker 3: helpful to have the relationship so you can pick up

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Speaker 3: know yourself certain and it's also depending on your family history,

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Speaker 3: to establish I think early on in your twenties. Now

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Speaker 3: when testing and screening's done. And so you don't wait

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Speaker 1: That makes that makes great sense, doesn't it. You got

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Speaker 1: to repair your car, babe. It's rattling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a rattle. Yeah, I gotta I got

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Speaker 2: no rattles right now, but I need to need to

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Speaker 2: prevent the rattle.

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Speaker 3: We want to prevent. You want to change before there

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get the all change the transmission looked at.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. You said, find a

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Speaker 1: doctor in your twenties. For me, personally, it's always been

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough. It can be tough because now there

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Speaker 3: are so many options now people have not even just locally,

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Speaker 3: there are people that now because since COVID, we do

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Speaker 3: of practicing medicine like telehealth. Telehealth. Absolutely so I recommend

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Speaker 3: But you're not alone. You are absolutely not alone. That

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Speaker 1: So we're looking at fatigue. We're looking for if your

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Speaker 2: Interesting talking about these things as men. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: So even just hearing that as a man, you go, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: And so there is no colonoscopy. And again that's for

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Speaker 3: the bottom. If you're getting screened prostate cancer, recommendations from

438
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Speaker 3: the American Neurological Association is a blood test ASA.

439
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Speaker 1: No coffee, so no, no, turn your head and cough anymore.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no no, that's not necessary to look for

441
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Speaker 3: prostate cancer. So if that's holding.

442
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Speaker 1: You back, I bet that's holding a lot of people back.

443
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure.

444
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 3: And with all these cancers, the sooner we find it,

445
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 3: the better you are, the better the outcomes are. So

446
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 3: you know, it just starts by having that conversation with

447
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Speaker 3: you doctor.

448
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: That's the key, though, right, don't you think, doctor Rufaden.

449
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 1: It's it's prevention. It's knowledge and prevention because there's so

450
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Speaker 1: much we can do now with modern medicine.

451
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Speaker 3: And there's so much information out there, and a lot

452
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 3: of information it is good. A lot of information is good,

453
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Speaker 3: whether it be from social media or whether it be

454
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Speaker 3: from the you know, well known sites over the Internet.

455
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Speaker 3: But a lot of information is not good, and so

456
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: it's important to identify kind of the good sites the

457
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Speaker 3: reliables for evidence based or the sites that you know

458
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 3: that you can take to the bank, as opposed to

459
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Speaker 3: just one person's experience that then becomes dogma.

460
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Speaker 1: I feel like this is good information right here, people

461
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Speaker 1: that we're giving you take key. Yes, yes, I feel

462
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Speaker 1: so lucky to have you here. This is a crazy subject.

463
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Speaker 1: Can we talk about a rectile dysfunction?

464
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: It's not a crazy subject.

465
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Speaker 1: I guess you're saying, we got to talk about it, right,

466
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: We got to.

467
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Speaker 3: Talk about it because you know, let's face it, by

468
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Speaker 3: the time men are in their fifties, you know that

469
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Speaker 3: percentage maybe up to fifty percent of manual experience some

470
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Speaker 3: form of rectile dysfunction. And I think the misnomer is

471
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Speaker 3: that it's immediately just the problem with the penis. And

472
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Speaker 3: in reality, when we have a rectilis function, one of

473
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Speaker 3: the first things that your doctor should be looking at

474
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Speaker 3: is what else is happening with your body? Right? Is

475
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Speaker 3: this a sign of having a problem with your heart? Right?

476
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: We need blood flow to perform, but if there's an

477
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Speaker 3: issue with blood getting to where it needs to perform,

478
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: that may be the problem that we need to identify

479
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Speaker 3: and address. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I never thought there.

481
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Speaker 3: Are signs of symptoms, take the focus I think from

482
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Speaker 3: that area to what's happening with your body? What else

483
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Speaker 3: is going on that can be consured. But it's quite common,

484
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,239
Speaker 3: but it doesn't always mean that it's you know, a

485
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Speaker 3: terminal event.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's good, that's good. I like that message. What

487
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Speaker 1: about a lot of conversations about receiving hairlines? Is there

488
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Speaker 1: anything you can do from a medical standpoint, or maybe

489
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Speaker 1: it's a supplementation or diet to sort of help with that.

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Speaker 3: Well, the first thing to do is to recognize it early.

491
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Speaker 3: Many of the treatment options that are available, they will

492
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Speaker 3: tell you the results may be better if initiated early

493
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Speaker 3: in the process. So I mean, I shave mind. So

494
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Speaker 3: this is exactly that.

495
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Speaker 1: Looking nice by the way, but if you.

496
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Speaker 3: Start from this and wanted to get where he is,

497
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 3: we're going to have some challenge, right, So you have

498
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Speaker 3: to when you initially see that either there is balding

499
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Speaker 3: on the crown or there is thinning up the hair

500
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: or receiving hairline, that's the time there to initiate some

501
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: form of treatment, and there are many. There's some over

502
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: the counter options that you can do that don't require

503
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Speaker 3: a prescription that sometimes take six to twelve months to

504
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Speaker 3: see results, and it can be effective at allowing here

505
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Speaker 3: to regrow and perhaps become more full. And then there

506
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 3: are prescriptions and there are procedures that people can do,

507
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: whether it be implants, whether it be you know, a

508
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: whole list of things that dermatologists and other specialists can

509
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: help you with. But the key here is to identify

510
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: it early and to act on it early. But know

511
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 3: that it's very common obviously is you get older, it's

512
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: gonna happen to most men and women by the fact

513
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Speaker 3: that women will also have some degree of thinning as

514
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Speaker 3: they get older, and so it's a part of life.

515
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Speaker 3: But as we choose ourselves, like you're the title of

516
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 3: the podcast, it's one of those things that we're going

517
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Speaker 3: to say, this is important to me, Let me seek

518
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Speaker 3: and let me know identify options that can help.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Tell him that what you always say

520
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Speaker 1: about your.

521
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Speaker 2: Hair, Oh, like why I think I have good hair? Yeah,

522
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: because you know, yeah, I have big hips so and

523
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: I was blessed with a high crack so and you know,

524
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: to counterbalance that I got good hair.

525
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: So he thinks it's one or the other, Like, yeah,

526
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: he got the big hips. So he's gonna have good hair.

527
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, then I have a high crack. They

528
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: used to call me high crack in baseball in college.

529
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Speaker 2: So I mean, I so you know that that's my theory.

530
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 3: Where did this come from?

531
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Speaker 1: This is his theory.

532
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: I have a theory that you can't have it all.

533
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 2: You can't have it all. You just can't have it all.

534
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: So you know, Brad Pitt's got something wrong with him.

535
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: We just don't know, like you know. So you know,

536
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: so I've got some bigger hips down there, and I've

537
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: had you know, I can't you know, I could never

538
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: sag in high school.

539
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: But you have good hair.

540
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: But I have decent hair. Yeah yeah, so I have

541
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Speaker 2: decent I was blessed with decent hair. Also my grandfather.

542
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Speaker 2: I think it comes from your grandfather, your mother grandfather's side.

543
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Speaker 1: Yeah that's a myth, isn't it?

544
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: Is that a myth?

545
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I've certainly heard that. I know that genetically,

546
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Speaker 3: if if your father has experienced part of baldness, you

547
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: are I think one number I saw it was, you know,

548
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: five to six times more likely to have that as well.

549
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: So there is a genetic link to it in some way.

550
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: But hey, if you're blessed, you know, we take blessings

551
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 3: of all shapes.

552
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm maybe I'm gonna go maybe I'm going to

553
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: go bald.

554
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: That's okay.

555
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: Ill, my dad is definitely receding victim.

556
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: That's okay, that's okay. I would ask, what is one

557
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Speaker 1: piece of advice that all men should take away from

558
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: this conversation today.

559
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Speaker 3: So I think the biggest piece that I want men

560
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: to take about take away from this conversation is that

561
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: I want them to understand the importance of just talking

562
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: about their problems, talking about not only just the physical problems.

563
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about mental challenges that we can have.

564
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: It's often one of the things that men suppress and

565
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: don't share as much. But being open to talk about problems.

566
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Speaker 3: And that's why I like establishing relationship with a doctor

567
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: because to me, that is just the great foundation that

568
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: helps us sustain our lives and have a really longevity,

569
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: have longevity with our lives. And so just talking about

570
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: it with the doctor that you're comfortable with that you

571
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: can talk about your what your hip to hear ratio

572
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: or you're pooping in the bogs, or your mental health

573
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: job having those types of conversations early and throughout your

574
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: life can really help you have so much fulfillment data.

575
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: I think the mental health, I think that's just huge,

576
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: yeah right now, especially with men, especially with older men.

577
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Speaker 2: Like I said, you know, I spend a lot of

578
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Speaker 2: you know a lot of time with you know, guys

579
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Speaker 2: in their fifties and sixties, like off of these these people,

580
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: and you know, to see even those men talk about

581
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: mental health and just discuss it is it's wonderful to

582
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: see and just how are you feeling, how are you doing?

583
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: How you really feeling?

584
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: How are you really feeling? And it's more of like,

585
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: you know, not great today, and then that conversation goes further,

586
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: you know, So it's that's really nice to see. And

587
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: it's you know, as you said by example.

588
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Speaker 3: But they're also not suffering in silence. Yeah, it's it's

589
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: it's it's a community that allows them to not feel

590
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: alone and help them feel connected so that they can

591
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Speaker 3: be well.

592
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: And also with even on the you know, physical side too,

593
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Speaker 2: a lot of men, you know, if something's hurting them,

594
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Speaker 2: they'll just prolong it, not say anything, probably not to

595
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: tell their spouse because if if I tell you Oh,

596
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: I've got something wrong with me. What are you going

597
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: to do? Just kind of hammer it, hammer it, hammer it?

598
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: So what's just not say anything at all? So I

599
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: think that that is another hurdle.

600
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: Wait what do you mean by hammer? Hammer?

601
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: Hammer?

602
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: And I'm confused? What do you like if you tell

603
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: me something's wrong with you?

604
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I'm like, oh, well this is hurting me.

605
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: You're going to be like, well you need to get

606
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: that checked out. Well, no, it's not that serious.

607
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: So then you're still going nagging.

608
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: Not no, And I didn't mean it like that, but

609
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Speaker 2: you're going to.

610
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Speaker 1: I just want to help the people that are hearing this,

611
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: because this is not just a conversation that you and

612
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Speaker 1: I would have.

613
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 2: Right, I think that across the landscape of you know,

614
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: in a relationship, and you know you're very concerned about

615
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: me if something's.

616
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Speaker 1: Hurting you, I'm sure you to go be proactive.

617
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Speaker 2: To absolutely, But sometimes I'm just telling you I don't

618
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: really need to go or I don't want to go.

619
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Speaker 2: But I also think that that's that's what this conversation

620
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: is about.

621
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Speaker 3: So yeah, So so I think in that case, an

622
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Speaker 3: option could be maybe making a mental note of that complaint,

623
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: maybe circling back around, maybe not in that moment, just listening, okay,

624
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: my back a sorry. Maybe it's a week later you say, hey,

625
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: are you having more back pain? In very just sort

626
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: of conversational manner following up on whatever that complaint was,

627
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: because there are certain issues that you'll have just for

628
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: a day. Some of you have for a few days.

629
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: But if something's experienced for a week or two months,

630
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: six months, then we know we're dealing with something more serious.

631
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: So maybe just coming back around to it to say, no,

632
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: you mentioned last week your backwards sty you still have

633
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: any problemts with your back, and just leaving it open.

634
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: Do you think that men should take supplements or vitamins

635
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: or think about their diets.

636
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: That's a good one. A daily vitamin, is that?

637
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I think diet and what we put in

638
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: our bodies super important, right It connects our gut health

639
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: and all the things that we've talked about. I think

640
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 3: if our diets are are balanced, if what we're eating

641
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: is I don't think we have to focus as much

642
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: on the supplements right now. There are many examples of

643
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: medical conditions that require supplements. Right if you've had certain

644
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: surgical procedures. We have other medical issues, they may say,

645
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: you know, you need to have the B twelve, you

646
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: need to have the vitamin D, et cetera. So your

647
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: medical history may dictate what you need. But for the

648
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: average risk person, the average person, I think just a

649
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: balanced diet, eating the colors of the rainbow, eating a

650
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: balance of you know, your fruit, your veggies, all of

651
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: those things, more vegetables than meat. You know, those things

652
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: will allow you to get those nutrients, those vitamins in

653
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: them without having to spend a whole lot on extra supplements.

654
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: The times they're necessary and useful, but I think we

655
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: tend to rely on them more than just eating well.

656
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Speaker 2: On that, I have a question about that. I remember

657
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Speaker 2: a lot of people I still do it, the interminute fasting.

658
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that? I mean, I tried

659
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: it for a while and I actually liked it, and

660
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 2: I'm still kind of on this, Like I don't really

661
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: eat between like eleven, or I eat from eleven to seven,

662
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: and I don't really try to eat at night.

663
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Speaker 1: You're on a camera right now and microphone, so I

664
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Speaker 1: just want you to know.

665
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: That I'm lying. He's like, but definitely, I like I

666
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: try I try to eat from eleven to seven. I

667
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: try to keep it in that range and try to

668
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: eat sensibly. But is is that another kind of wisetail

669
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Speaker 2: with the fasting or.

670
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Speaker 3: Fasting has many benefits. I think to rely on it though, however,

671
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: as the maintenance plan is probably not I think realistic

672
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: in the long term. You know, if you're people use

673
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: fasting for seasons or periods for for you know, health,

674
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: but to rely on it for every single day for

675
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: the rest of your life may not be practical because

676
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: as you travel, as you go and there's gonna be

677
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 3: times you're going to need to you're a different time

678
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: zone and you're eating. You have to have that flexibility

679
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: to know that it may be a part of what

680
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: you do. I mean, I know several people that will,

681
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: you know, several times a year they'll do a fast

682
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: for either spiritual reasons or for just the mental component

683
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: of it. And so it may be a part of

684
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 3: your routine, but now it may be it's not the

685
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: basis of your routine. That becomes just sort of a

686
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: branch of what you do to maintain your health.

687
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: May I ask you some of our listeners questions, Yes, okay, great,

688
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: Mackenzick would like to know what would you suggest to

689
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: counteract the effects of falling testosterone levels in older men?

690
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 3: So there are you know, I always start with talking

691
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: with your doctor to see kind of what are the

692
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: other variables and factors with your health, right, that's the

693
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: first thing we should establish. And there are several medications

694
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: that can be provided, prescription medication. I know you can

695
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: find a lot of these commercials either in you know,

696
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: on the internet or on television about taking these testastrum supplements.

697
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: Those may not be regulated by the FDA. So asking

698
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: your doctor about are there prescriptions and are they're balancing

699
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 3: or are they checking my labs to make sure I'm

700
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: responding appropriately, because if they're checking blood work, they should

701
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 3: see changes. Are we getting the right dose in the

702
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: right you know way? Do I need an injection? Do

703
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 3: I need a pill? Do I need a crane? All

704
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: of those things and in what ways is that low

705
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: testosterrum influencing my life? Am I fatigued? Do not have

706
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 3: the stamina in the gym or at home? I mean,

707
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 3: all of those things will influence Am I on the

708
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 3: right does and am getting in the right way with

709
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: the right frequency.

710
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot of conversation around menopause right now, thank goodness,

711
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: and a lot of talk about estrogen and adding estrogen supplementation.

712
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: It's quite a controversial subject. Is it kind of the

713
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: same thing for testosterone for men?

714
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

715
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: Low T, Yeah, low T.

716
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't get the same attention. I've seen several advertisements

717
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: on television regarding low T. Now we're having the conversation more.

718
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: But it is equally important. It is equally important because

719
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: it can influence, just like menopause, so many aspects of

720
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: your life that aren't just what you think it's about.

721
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 3: It's about the way you feel, the way your energy is,

722
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: the way you're processing throughout the day mentally. So you're right,

723
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: it absolutely is just as important.

724
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: And the best way to find out if you have

725
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: low testosterone is a blood test.

726
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 3: It's a blood test, right so your doctor kid can

727
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: can order and they can follow it to see if

728
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 3: your body is responding to the administration of whatever supplements

729
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: they may be providing for you.

730
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Speaker 1: Very interesting, Okay, you want to read this one.

731
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. At MPa seven eight one one.

732
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Speaker 2: How long should I let pass between checkups?

733
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Speaker 3: Everybody has a different frequency. There's some of my patients

734
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: that I want to see them every three months. There's

735
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 3: something I need to see yearly for just all comers

736
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: average risk at least every year or two, and depending

737
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: on what the problems may may not be, that frequency

738
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 3: may need to be increased. So you may need to

739
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: see them once a year or twice a year, but

740
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: at least on average every year or two. You need

741
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: to be checking in for just a physical exam, blood work,

742
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: looking for a low blood counts, looking for your cholesterol numbers,

743
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: may be checking your heart the things that you're not

744
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: going to perhaps see right away, checking your thyro levels

745
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: and making sure you're up to date with all the

746
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: screenings where they we prostate lung cancer, all those types

747
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: of things, making sure you're up to date with those.

748
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: Okay, someone would like to know Ray Ruez three three eight,

749
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: would like to know what is better sauna or steam

750
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: room and are there benefits to either.

751
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there are some published reports about how sitting

752
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: in a sauna can help lower blood pressure, how obviously

753
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: it can help with the muscular skeletal system, but the

754
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: benefits are widely researched and published. I think there's probably

755
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: a preference of which you prefer whether you want to

756
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: sit in moisture or do you want to sit in

757
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: dry heat and create that moisture. I think after a

758
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: workout there's definitely some you know, relaxation of just having

759
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: them lifted or run and just having a moment to

760
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 3: just decompress. But there are some help benefits that are

761
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 3: published with infrared saunas. But I think it's probably a

762
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: preference of which you prefer of sitting in sort of

763
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Speaker 3: the steam versus singing dry heat.

764
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Speaker 2: I have a side question on that, doctor, I've been

765
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: looking into cold plunges. Do you have any knowledge on that?

766
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: I mean I've heard.

767
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: Everything everybody's talking about the cold.

768
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the circulatory system, you know, the benefits inflammation

769
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: cox Yeah, because I've for me personally, I've had, you know,

770
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: some neck stiffness in the next and you know, I

771
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: think it was a lot of stress and then hurting myself.

772
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 2: But what do you think about I heard someone told

773
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: me and then I looked them up like a cold

774
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: plunge with do you write what what are your thoughts?

775
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I mean you I saw what was that video?

776
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: Was that Lebron dump them? Yeah? Yeah? And you can

777
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: find cryo therapy facilities popping up everywhere everywhere. I think

778
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: it can be a part of the equation. As always,

779
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: I always say talk with your doctor before you make

780
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: any decision like that. But I don't think that done

781
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: in you know, a frequency of one time a week,

782
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: one time a month, whatever that frequency may be, that

783
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: you're in any danger. But the published report talk about

784
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: the release of toxins and getting rid of the oxidative

785
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: stresses in your body. I don't think it's going to

786
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: be the cure all to all the problems. But I

787
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: also don't think it's going to really hurt, right facilitate

788
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: its use to actually use it.

789
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not doing it. I'm telling you right now.

790
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm I don't want to go in cold water. It's

791
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: just not I did that was for show. I had

792
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: to do that, But I don't think I'll ever do

793
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: that again.

794
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: I was just gonna fill the baths up up with

795
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: some ice.

796
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: That's a lot of ice. Yeah, give it a shot.

797
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: How about you ask him this one.

798
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: Oh, this is a good one. Doc at Diamond Dot photog,

799
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: how do we get our wives to let us play

800
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: more golf for our mental health without guilt?

801
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: I think he is at diamond photo.

802
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, this is a great question. A

803
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: lot of men want to know. I know I'm one

804
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: of them.

805
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: Well, and so let's substitute golf for any activity that

806
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 3: you enjoy, that you provide that provides you some mental benefit.

807
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 3: We lead stressful lives and we have to have outlets

808
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: to release that stress, to recenter, and also to have

809
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 3: time with friends. That's very important. And the balance comes

810
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: and I'm sure my wife's listening to this, it's going

811
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: to shake her head. The balance comes because you have

812
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 3: to I'm just gonna say he didn't say that out loud,

813
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: but I didn't know. The balance comes is you have

814
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: to take care of all of it, right, So you

815
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: have to have that balance with your friends and be

816
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 3: able to play golf or run or swim and whatever

817
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: your activity. But also you have to come back around

818
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: to your partner and be able to balance that with

819
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: their time. And so I think if you can manage

820
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: you know, we've spent our date night Friday night. I

821
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 3: said date night Friday or your Wednesday or whatever that

822
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: time is, and now I need the time to have

823
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 3: with my friends or to realize it's a part of

824
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: your health, right, you have to fill your tank and

825
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: you have to be able to have that friendship which

826
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: is super important for your own mental health. Yeah.

827
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you like that answer?

828
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: Did you hear that answer?

829
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: I heard them. I heard them loud and clear. You

830
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: got to fill your tank.

831
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: Did you both hear the same thing or different things?

832
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: Did you hear the balance?

833
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: Here's the thing with golf, and I think for a

834
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: lot of men, I think it checks a lot of

835
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 2: boxes and just like a four and a half five

836
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: hour time frame and then you're done. You check your

837
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: social box, you check your activity, you check being in

838
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: nature for your man, and you know, and then there's

839
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 2: some stigmas around it where you know, people are drinking

840
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: too much in excess and screwing around. But yeah, in

841
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: all those boxes get checked with just one simple activity

842
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: because you're right, you go out, you you know the

843
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 2: social aspect that you are with friends, you are talking

844
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: about a game, you're in nature. So yeah, I thought

845
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: that was a great answer.

846
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: Doctor.

847
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: Now, if you're on a golf team, you need a

848
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: little bit more, you know, time to practice and kind

849
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: of you know.

850
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: He's a professional golfer. I don't know if you know.

851
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 2: I'm not professional, but I'm on a team.

852
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: Where we're going to work on a balance.

853
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

854
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that just brings me to my last question

855
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: here from Jeordie Stevens ninety four. Mental health super important.

856
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: Let's get men talking about it.

857
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get men. Men don't always show the same

858
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: signs that they are having challenges for the mental health

859
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: and women. They may not cry, but they may appear

860
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: more angry. They may not lash out, they may become

861
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: more reserved or withdrawn, and so it's balance and understanding

862
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: the signs, and they may not even be aware of

863
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: the signs. As you get older, as life changes, you react,

864
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: and whether it be as you get closer to retirement,

865
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: or as your kids go off to college, or as

866
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: wherever those things are, those things in your life can

867
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: affect your mental health. So it's first letting men know

868
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: that you are not alone, that creating a support system

869
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 3: that can help get them through these moments, and then

870
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: seeking professional help. If these are spilling over into your

871
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: life where you're not sleeping well, you're not performing well

872
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: at work, you're lashing out at the family, all of

873
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: these things can indicate that we need to seek more

874
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Speaker 3: help and and and and not suffering silence, not suffering science.

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Speaker 3: I think that's that's super important that men know that

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Speaker 3: they have to support not only their families, but their doctors,

877
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Speaker 3: mental health specialists especially.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just so beautiful that the stigma

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Speaker 1: is lessening now and that people are talking about it

880
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: with each other, just having the conversations about how are

881
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: you feeling and are you happy or are you feeling

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00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: good about things?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: I think those are just important conversations that we don't

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Speaker 1: often have.

886
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 3: So sometimes it gets the way men that are brought

887
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: up not show your emotion, be.

888
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: Tough men, don't cry, Yeah.

889
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 3: Don't cry. And in reality we create a culture where

890
00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: men are suffering in silence and we are tear in

891
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 3: that away one conversation like this at a time. So

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Speaker 3: so definitely thank you for bringing that one up.

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Speaker 1: Yes, oh my gosh, thank you so much for giving

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Speaker 1: us your time and answering all of our silly questions

895
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: and our serious.

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00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: Questions, great questions.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you so much.

898
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Speaker 2: Thank you, doctor, Thank you for the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Bye.

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00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: Doctor mcvatt, Bye doctor bye.

901
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: He was a delight, he was great.

902
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: I love doctor mcvadden.

903
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: I want to hang out with him, Well do you.

904
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: I would love to go to South Carolina.

905
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: Maybe you could go golfing with him.

906
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you golfer.

907
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: So, honey, how did all that land for you?

908
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: I thought it was great. You know, I do need

909
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: to take my health a little bit more seriously. I

910
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: do need to be proactive preventative. We don't have a doctor.

911
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 2: We have to find a doctor. And that's another thing.

912
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Speaker 2: It's just taking time to better yourself, to get ahead

913
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Speaker 2: of stuff. You know, I'm in my forties now. I

914
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Speaker 2: didn't really need to think about that in my thirties,

915
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Speaker 2: or I mean, I.

916
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Speaker 3: Guess I should have.

917
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Speaker 2: I think it's all good stuff that we need to

918
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Speaker 2: break that stereotype for the mail, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that is great. You heard his

920
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: messaging and it kind of resonated with you about it

921
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: that it's important for you even you need to choose

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Speaker 1: yourself sometimes.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I love the colon Ascoby talk. I

924
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: mean that got me fun stuff.

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00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: Got you excited?

926
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Speaker 3: Yeap?

927
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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I'm sorry. I know it's rough being a man, isn't.

928
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: It so hard?

929
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Speaker 1: Well, mission accomplished, I guess right. Thank you, honey for

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00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: coming on the pod and being so open to these conversations.

931
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Speaker 3: My pleasure.

932
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Love you, I love you.

933
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: Again. A big thank you to doctor McFadden joining us today.

934
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Speaker 1: I think that both Dave and I learned a lot,

935
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Speaker 1: and I hope you did too. In honor of Men's

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Speaker 1: Health Month, as we continue to choose ourselves weekly here

937
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: on our podcast, I want you to mentally check in

938
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: with your body. And I don't care what gender you are,

939
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: may and woman, whatever you are, this is for all

940
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: of us. Have you been ignoring a persistent ache or pain.

941
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: Have you been putting off a checkup appointment, Well, this

942
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: is your friendly reminder to make sure you choose to

943
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: listen and love your body, which means make sure it's

944
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: operating in top shape. I love you and I want

945
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: you to stick around for as long as possible. Thanks

946
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: for listening to I Choose Me. You can follow us

947
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: and doctor McFadden by checking out all of our social

948
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 1: links in the show notes and hey, would you guys

949
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: do me a favor make sure to follow rate and

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00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: leave a review for the podcast. I love seeing that,

951
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: My bosses love seeing that, and you know what, I'll

952
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: be right here. Next week, I hope you choose to

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Speaker 1: be here too,