Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Hi, friends,
Speaker 1: welcome back to I Choose Me. This podcast is all
Speaker 1: about the choices we make and how they truly shape
Speaker 1: our lives. Today, I am welcoming a trailblazer, someone who
Speaker 1: didn't just join the entertainment world, she changed it. We
Speaker 1: are talking about the iconic Daisy Fuantes. Daisy didn't just
Speaker 1: find a seat at the table, She built an entirely
Speaker 1: new wing. She became MTV's first Latina vij and the
Speaker 1: first Latina to ever Land a global Revlon contract That
Speaker 1: is historic right there, you guys. Daisy has been her
Speaker 1: entire career choosing boldness and self belief, using her visibility
Speaker 1: not just for success, but for service as well. Now
Speaker 1: here's what I love. In her latest chapter, Miss Flint
Speaker 1: does is choosing health over hustle and presence over pressure.
Speaker 1: She's simplified her life. She's embraced a beautiful, leguan lifestyle
Speaker 1: with her husband, the renowned Richard Marx, and is finding
Speaker 1: pure joy in cooking, learning, and soaking up as many
Speaker 1: sunsets as possible. It is my immense joy to welcome
Speaker 1: Daisy Flints. Daisy Daisy Daisy, what a long and glorious
Speaker 1: career you have forged for yourself.
Speaker 2: Oh who knew? You must have? I really didn't. I
Speaker 2: really didn't know. I was not one of those people
Speaker 2: who kind of had the vision of what I wanted
Speaker 2: to do. I always envied those kids in school who
Speaker 2: knew from a very young age, Oh, I'm going to
Speaker 2: be a teacher, I'm going to be a doctor, I'm
Speaker 2: going to be a law And I never knew what
Speaker 2: I wanted to do. Yeah, I never knew what I
Speaker 2: was good at. And I really think that my career
Speaker 2: truly came to me from pure manifestation. Really, I really think.
Speaker 1: So at what point were you like, this is what
Speaker 1: I want to do. I want to go and get
Speaker 1: it a start model because you started modeling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was also a fluke. I didn't go
Speaker 2: out and search for it. It came to you. It
Speaker 2: came to me. Was My next door neighbor was short
Speaker 2: in a model. One day, her little sister used to
Speaker 2: play with my little sister, and I guess she'd seen
Speaker 2: me around and she came knocking at the door and
Speaker 2: asked my mom if she would allow me to go
Speaker 2: with her. Because two of her models called in sick.
Speaker 2: She was doing a photo shoot. She knew I would
Speaker 2: fit into the clothes and that's how that and I thought, Mommy, please,
Speaker 2: I've gotta go do this. This is what I've been manifying.
Speaker 2: I used to go through the magazines and imagine myself
Speaker 2: in the editorials, literally like without thinking, oh, I want
Speaker 2: to do this one day, I would just think, gosh,
Speaker 2: it must be so great, Like what a great life
Speaker 2: this girl has shows up for work and this is
Speaker 2: her situation. If I were there, I would certainly enjoy it,
Speaker 2: and I would oh and I could also I would
Speaker 2: literally put myself in the page, which is manifestation.
Speaker 1: And I realized that's what I was doing. Absolutely. Wow,
Speaker 1: it worked even back then before it was cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, listen, that's the thing with manifestation is that
Speaker 2: I truly believe, like I know it's working. It works
Speaker 2: because everything is energy and vibration, So it's working whether
Speaker 2: you believe in it or not, whether you understand it
Speaker 2: or not. It's not about believing it, it's about understanding it.
Speaker 1: You are speaking my language. What's the difference between believing
Speaker 1: and understanding?
Speaker 2: Because I think when you say I believe in it,
Speaker 2: you're also saying it's possible to not believe in it, right,
Speaker 2: it can be. It doesn't matter whether you believe in
Speaker 2: it or not. It's there. It's happening, whether you understand
Speaker 2: it or not.
Speaker 1: So true, right, yes, whether you noticed it or not,
Speaker 1: Like whether you're you pay attention, yes, because it's happening
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 2: The minute you start paying attention, you realize how you're
Speaker 2: manifesting things that you don't want, right even.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I've been there. Yeah. I mean when you
Speaker 1: look back at all that you have accomplished, all of
Speaker 1: the pioneering, all of the firsts that you have had,
Speaker 1: that first contract, that global cosmetic contract, that first VJ
Speaker 1: job at MTV, what do you think?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: Was there a moment you realize I'm not just succeeding
Speaker 1: in this world. I'm actually creating a new landscape for
Speaker 1: other people.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that until I was told. You know,
Speaker 2: I was genuinely doing what I do. I was living
Speaker 2: my life in two cultures and two languages. And then
Speaker 2: when I started doing that on camera, it was apparently
Speaker 2: a thing that I wasn't aware of, and I was
Speaker 2: just like many of us live like this, in this country.
Speaker 2: Many of us are, you know, two cultures, two languages,
Speaker 2: many many many. It just hadn't been there was no
Speaker 2: one representing.
Speaker 1: Us, I guess.
Speaker 2: And so when it was pointed out to me by
Speaker 2: journalists whenever I was doing interviews, people would be kind
Speaker 2: of like, oh, you know, you're doing this crossover, and
Speaker 2: it was a word that I'd never heard before. So
Speaker 2: that's when I started hearing the word crossover, and I
Speaker 2: started hearing oh you did. You were the first Hispanic woman,
Speaker 2: the first Latina. And then it started kind of and
Speaker 2: I don't think even at that time I clocked the
Speaker 2: importance of it and what it really meant. I just
Speaker 2: thought it was, oh, that's cool. You know, you're young,
Speaker 2: and you don't you're living in the moment. I wasn't
Speaker 2: trying to do anything extraordinary. I was just so happy
Speaker 2: to be given the work and to be thriving. I
Speaker 2: thought it would end. I thought every job I got
Speaker 2: would would be my last while, so I was just
Speaker 2: enjoying it as like this thing, that this opportunity that
Speaker 2: I would get that would end. So I didn't really
Speaker 2: have the time or I wasn't wise enough to really
Speaker 2: take it.
Speaker 1: All in Yes, that's what happens as we get older.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when you, you know, in hindsight, you start
Speaker 2: looking at the things that you've done. Yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 2: you can relate to this, especially you're living an era
Speaker 2: of yours that is so extraordinary, and you don't you're
Speaker 2: so in it that you don't really have the time
Speaker 2: to see what is going on, what you're creating, what
Speaker 2: you're doing, how people see you, until it's over, until
Speaker 2: you're a little bit older and you're able to look
Speaker 2: back and go, wow, I was I killed it. I
Speaker 2: was a badass.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the best thing about getting older? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like being able to objectively look back at your life, yes,
Speaker 1: and see all that you've accomplished and all the challenges
Speaker 1: that you've overcome.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And also yes, and also look back and go,
Speaker 2: I was so dumb. How could I have thought I
Speaker 2: wasn't cute? Or how could I have thought? How could
Speaker 2: I have been so insecure about this? That and the
Speaker 2: other thing. It's so true.
Speaker 1: I look back at my younger self, I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god.
Speaker 2: She's so hot, like so hot, she's killing I look
Speaker 2: at her. I'm like, yes, go on, yes, s killing
Speaker 2: the game and we didn't even know it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it. We didn't even listen. No, we
Speaker 1: took none of that in. We only took the negative
Speaker 1: and self criticism and the self.
Speaker 2: Doubst yes, which I still you know, it still creeps
Speaker 2: in now and I have to catch myself and I
Speaker 2: remind myself, like, stop it, what are you doing? Stop?
Speaker 2: Like you look the best that you're going to look
Speaker 2: from here on, Like you're the youngest that you're we're
Speaker 2: going to be.
Speaker 1: Right now, Today's the day live it up?
Speaker 2: So true.
Speaker 1: What advice would you give someone who feels like the
Speaker 1: thing that they want doesn't exist, for someone that looks
Speaker 1: like them or the thing, or they're waiting for permission
Speaker 1: to step forward into something.
Speaker 2: Oh, the waiting for permission is a big one because
Speaker 2: again with age comes the power and the wisdom to
Speaker 2: realize that you're the one that gives yourself permission. You're
Speaker 2: the one, So you have to give yourself permission. You
Speaker 2: have to forgive yourself for mistakes. You have to just
Speaker 2: be okay with it. Like I have this really healthy
Speaker 2: voice in my head right now, where I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people.
Speaker 1: Will have a voice that goes Oh you can't do that.
Speaker 2: Oh oh that's twenty calories. Oh you probably shouldn't take
Speaker 2: that chance. My voice is like, you deserve it. Go
Speaker 2: for it, do it, have the pizza, have another pizza?
Speaker 2: What what? What's the worst I can to happen? Just
Speaker 2: go for it. You deserve it, like you deserve my voice.
Speaker 2: I've trained that annoying voice in my head the negative
Speaker 2: way to now say, you deserve it, whatever.
Speaker 1: You want, You earned it.
Speaker 2: How'd you do that?
Speaker 1: How'd you train it?
Speaker 2: Because I started catching the negativity in it, and I
Speaker 2: started going, who is that bitch talking? Who is that
Speaker 2: nasty bitch in my head? Who is that? So? I
Speaker 2: caught her and I was like you stop, like you
Speaker 2: were going to stop this right now. And every now
Speaker 2: and then it sneaks through. But I've kind of trained
Speaker 2: it to talk to me like I talked to my friends.
Speaker 2: I love hearing.
Speaker 1: I love having this conversation with women from all walks
Speaker 1: of life and different levels of fame and entrepreneurship and business.
Speaker 1: You know, CEOs. We all have the same negative track
Speaker 1: playing in our heads in some way, shape or form
Speaker 1: of course, And it's about learning. It's a practice control it.
Speaker 2: It's a practice, you know, like I used to wear
Speaker 2: somebody get ready to go out, get in front of
Speaker 2: the mirror and be like, oh I must have gained weight.
Speaker 2: I'm so fat, Like this doesn't look right on me,
Speaker 2: and I switched it to oh I just got to
Speaker 2: put something else on that feels more comfortable right now,
Speaker 2: Like I don't even like who cares? Yeah, like, Ohoka,
Speaker 2: it's not me, Like, yeah, maybe I'm a couple of
Speaker 2: pounds heavier now, but who gets not. That's not the thing.
Speaker 2: The thing is like, just put something else on. Look
Speaker 2: at you closet. It's full of stuff that's going to
Speaker 2: look great and feel good.
Speaker 1: Stop the queen of self positive talk.
Speaker 2: It's a practice, Listen. It doesn't work all the time.
Speaker 2: But no, I'm just putting it out there because I
Speaker 2: know that we all have that we all have that
Speaker 2: person in our head, and we can train her to
Speaker 2: be nice. We can train her to be a little nicer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I love that. It gives me hope and
Speaker 1: possibilities for everyone listening, it's so good. I think it's
Speaker 1: safe to say, at least from an outside perspective, that
Speaker 1: it seems like beauty was your open door it was
Speaker 1: your way in in the very beginning, and I mean
Speaker 1: no shade on that, because you truly defined beauty for
Speaker 1: so many women out there and really paved the way.
Speaker 1: And cut to here we all are. Here, we are,
Speaker 1: all these years later, still in the spotlight, both here,
Speaker 1: still killing it. But the spotlight has changed and aging
Speaker 1: what was once a very bad thing. I feel like
Speaker 1: the tides are turning, maybe you know, and now there's
Speaker 1: a new understanding and a new appreciation for women as
Speaker 1: they get older that maybe wasn't there before.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that appreciation is there or we're
Speaker 2: feeling that appreciation for ourselves now because we're talking about
Speaker 2: it more. Yeah, I don't know that the world has
Speaker 2: caught up. I don't know that the world is giving
Speaker 2: us the respect that we need to demand. We're certainly
Speaker 2: looking better than we ever did before. As older women.
Speaker 2: All older women are killing it. They're killing the game
Speaker 2: with like you see a fifty year old when a
Speaker 2: sixty year old and a seventy year old woman, they're
Speaker 2: looking better and younger, not in a way, not in
Speaker 2: cost way, not in like getting a surgery way, right
Speaker 2: in an energy way, like they just feel like you
Speaker 2: used to see a sixty year old woman and I
Speaker 2: would think, oh, she's a granny. Like now a sixty
Speaker 2: year old woman is gorgeous and strong and energetic. And
Speaker 2: I think that that is because of the conversations that
Speaker 2: we're having.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's.
Speaker 2: Because of our perspective? Though?
Speaker 1: Now that we're older, we have a deeper understanding of
Speaker 1: knowing or ability to see how rad I are.
Speaker 2: That Yeah, that you can't really know it until you
Speaker 2: live it. And I think that we're just a group
Speaker 2: of women. Our generation is just a bit tougher, just
Speaker 2: a bit tougher, and we don't care as much as
Speaker 2: I think the previous generations did. We don't mind talking
Speaker 2: about the things, all the things and all the things
Speaker 2: that we can do to make it better. Like we
Speaker 2: refuse to give in, we refuse to not feel great,
Speaker 2: and we're talking about what helps us and how to
Speaker 2: help each other. That is great. What hasn't changed is
Speaker 2: that women are still are still putting each other down.
Speaker 2: You see it on social media, you see it in
Speaker 2: the magazines, you see it in the press. The convert
Speaker 2: that the shame is hard to get rid of. So
Speaker 2: it's really up to us when we have these kinds
Speaker 2: of conversations to remind each other that that's not okay,
Speaker 2: that that still needs to be called out, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there are a lot of positive things happening. We've changed
Speaker 2: so much of the game, but we still have to
Speaker 2: change more. I don't understand when who bash each other
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of that going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's hard and it's hard to even imagine.
Speaker 1: Yeah that you know that happening these days, especially as
Speaker 1: you get older and you know how hard you've worked
Speaker 1: and you know all the struggles that it's taken to
Speaker 1: get you to this moment, Like you wouldn't you wouldn't
Speaker 1: look at some other woman right and think, you know,
Speaker 1: ugly thoughts about her.
Speaker 2: I think there's still so much insecurity out in the
Speaker 2: world with women that it comes out like comparison culture.
Speaker 2: It comes out in a very negative, bashing kind of way.
Speaker 2: And now at my age, I see the damage that
Speaker 2: it's doing to the younger generation. I see how as
Speaker 2: hard as it was for us when we were young,
Speaker 2: it's so much younger for the younger women. So I
Speaker 2: don't know, I think that talking about it more will
Speaker 2: help some of these women catch their own security is
Speaker 2: coming out as benam you know, but that does need
Speaker 2: to calm down, That needs to be talked about. We
Speaker 2: need more conversations that where we empower each other because
Speaker 2: we really are much more like than we think. Our
Speaker 2: insecurities are the same. You know, it doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: age we are, what generation. They may change the packaging
Speaker 2: on it, but it's all the same.
Speaker 1: It can be a different situation or circumstances, but it's
Speaker 1: always the same.
Speaker 2: It's so relatable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. You said once, it's not easy to
Speaker 1: navigate through this second act in life. You've got to
Speaker 1: have thick skin do You've got to be ready. You've
Speaker 1: got to be ready to shed your old skin and
Speaker 1: step into your new role. How have you done that?
Speaker 2: It's not easy, you know, especially those of us who've
Speaker 2: grown up in front of a camera. It's tough to
Speaker 2: see yourself basically evolving into a different person. But I
Speaker 2: think that what helped me is realizing that I've done
Speaker 2: that all my life. I did that from when I
Speaker 2: was a kid to a teenager. When I was a
Speaker 2: teenager to a young woman, from when I was a
Speaker 2: young woman to when I was in my mid thirties,
Speaker 2: I was realizing in all of those eras that I
Speaker 2: let go of another girl, like the girl that I
Speaker 2: used to be is no longer. I didn't look like
Speaker 2: that anymore. I didn't believe some of the things that
Speaker 2: she believed. I didn't act the way she acted anymore.
Speaker 2: This is just getting closer to the last few eras.
Speaker 2: I don't think this is the last era I think
Speaker 2: I have. I think I will continue to evolve. You
Speaker 2: got a few left in you, I think at least
Speaker 2: a couple, you know. But that's what helped me is
Speaker 2: realizing that, oh, I'm this woman now, and all along
Speaker 2: the way they were all pretty cool. They all ended
Speaker 2: up being pretty cool, and I ended up liking all
Speaker 2: of them or being comfortable with all of them. So
Speaker 2: this is going to be the same. And when I
Speaker 2: get into my sixties and my seventies, that's going to
Speaker 2: be a different version of me. And that might be
Speaker 2: really fun too, I don't know. Yeah, the part that's
Speaker 2: not fun is realizing that you're getting older, you know.
Speaker 2: I don't like dealing with looking at myself and being like, oh,
Speaker 2: do I need botox? What is the latest laser treatment
Speaker 2: that I need to have right now? What is the
Speaker 2: next magic potion that you know, I enjoy that and
Speaker 2: I don't because those things don't work as well as.
Speaker 1: They use to as you get older.
Speaker 2: Right, So that part of it is tough, But all
Speaker 2: the other things are there for us to embrace if
Speaker 2: we choose to.
Speaker 1: I mean especially in the industry that we're in, but
Speaker 1: I mean honestly in any industry. As women, we are
Speaker 1: traditionally more valued if we are attractive and young. Let's
Speaker 1: just be honest. Have you learned to choose wholeness over
Speaker 1: that pressure to stay perfect? Like people remember you?
Speaker 2: I think that knowledge, curiosity, kindness is much more important
Speaker 2: because I've met a lot of beautiful people who get
Speaker 2: ugly really fast. I've met a lot of people that
Speaker 2: aren't initially the most gorgeous person in the room, that
Speaker 2: immediately capture everyone's attention, and they are the unforgettable ones.
Speaker 2: So it's really an essence, it's a presence. And so
Speaker 2: that's why it's important for me to stay curious to learn.
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with learning. I go down every rabbit hole,
Speaker 2: and now with technology like, I am loving it. I
Speaker 2: am loving being able to learn so much about so
Speaker 2: many things on my own. I think that that's what
Speaker 2: ultimately makes someone attractive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the word curiosity keeps coming up in my world.
Speaker 1: And I've always said I'm so curious about everything, Like
Speaker 1: I've always been a curious little girl, and then I
Speaker 1: was curious all the way through. But now I've just
Speaker 1: returned to this, like I need to know how you've
Speaker 1: done it and what made you tick and where do
Speaker 1: you get this from? You know, I'm just so curious
Speaker 1: about human nature. Yeah, not to mention, you know, I
Speaker 1: will google how do you change your toilet lid?
Speaker 2: Without?
Speaker 1: You know, like I will google anything everything, and I
Speaker 1: want to learn how to do it and do it
Speaker 1: myself before I call someone. Total husband gets very irritated.
Speaker 1: He's like, just call the repair man. I'll pay for it.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I need to know if he's doing it right.
Speaker 1: Or when I have the repair man come over, I
Speaker 1: watch him like a hawk so that I learn what
Speaker 1: he's doing. It's not like rocket science.
Speaker 2: Right, I can do that. Like I feel a little magiverish,
Speaker 2: like I feel like I need to be able to
Speaker 2: rig anything any time.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely was there an inner shift moment for you
Speaker 1: at some point that helped you really move from that
Speaker 1: stigma and that pressure of being in the spotlight. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're still in the spotlight, but back in the day
Speaker 1: for both of us, we were in the spotlight.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Was there a point in your evolution. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: in your thirties, Maybe it was in your forties where
Speaker 1: you were like, hmm, I'm not going to be that anymore.
Speaker 1: What that was, Yes, I'm becoming someone else.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it was in my forties. I don't
Speaker 2: know that there was an exact moment, but I realized
Speaker 2: that I was focusing on different things. It wasn't like
Speaker 2: it hit me kind of like, oh, I'm not, you know,
Speaker 2: the most popular girl, because that was never the most
Speaker 2: interesting thing for me. I never all through my twenties
Speaker 2: and thirties, I wasn't interested in being the most famous girl.
Speaker 2: I was kind of wanted to be the most successful girl,
Speaker 2: like the richest girl. I don't want to be the
Speaker 2: prettiest girl, and I wanted to be the richest girl.
Speaker 2: So I kind of focused on that a little bit more.
Speaker 2: And the truth is, I had a lot of opportunities
Speaker 2: to do things that would have probably made me more
Speaker 2: famous and given me more notoriety, and I didn't do them,
Speaker 2: you know, like for example, I would get offers to
Speaker 2: do Playboy every year, and I remember framing the letters
Speaker 2: from Hugh Hefner and I thought, you know, there's nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with it, Like I would totally do it, but
Speaker 2: I can't do it while my dad's a lot Oh
Speaker 2: my same thoughts.
Speaker 1: Really, I just I could never. I don't want my dad,
Speaker 1: my brothers, the gardening man.
Speaker 2: I don't want to harass my dad. No. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: that would be a lot, It would be a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, some people make it work.
Speaker 2: No, and it's it's fine if you have that family dynamic.
Speaker 2: And I don't think my dad would have been angry
Speaker 2: at me. I think you would have understood. But I know,
Speaker 2: like I know, just because of our culture, I know
Speaker 2: it would have embarrass him. So that was never even
Speaker 2: an option.
Speaker 1: Are you a daddy's girl?
Speaker 2: A little bit? A little bit. I wasn't like super
Speaker 2: daddy's girl, but I was. I think my dad always
Speaker 2: wanted a boy. So I was more of like a
Speaker 2: tomboy with my dad, Like we did things that he
Speaker 2: would probably do if he had a son.
Speaker 1: That sounds fun.
Speaker 2: It was really fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So I love that you didn't just get
Speaker 1: famous and get stuck in that you connected to advocacy
Speaker 1: for women. Yeah, it's very admirable, specifically in Latina representation,
Speaker 1: animal welfare, cancer research. I mean, there's there's many others,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I think that there's such a beautiful
Speaker 1: message there, because sometimes choosing yourself is about prioritizing what's
Speaker 1: most important to you in life. Yeah, so even when
Speaker 1: you're choosing to help others, you're actually choosing yourself.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's really nice way of putting that some.
Speaker 1: Need that within you. You've also always chosen to give back.
Speaker 1: It's been a really important part of your life. What
Speaker 1: originally called you to this kind of service work.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, when you become popular, when you become
Speaker 2: a public persona, you start getting a lot of people
Speaker 2: asking for your help. And that's when I really started
Speaker 2: thinking early on what a privilege it was to have that,
Speaker 2: to have a stage, to have a microphone, to have
Speaker 2: a voice, to speak up for organizations that you believe
Speaker 2: in that could really use the attention. And yes, I
Speaker 2: have always contributed and donated what I could and still
Speaker 2: do to the organizations that I believe in privately, but
Speaker 2: I thought it's a privilege to have this voice to
Speaker 2: let people know. It helps the organizations so much, the
Speaker 2: ones that you believe in, for you to give them
Speaker 2: that voice, that attention that they so desperately need. So
Speaker 2: it was more about just giving back and contributing, because
Speaker 2: sure I could do that privately, I do. And it's
Speaker 2: about having the opportunity to speak up for someone that's
Speaker 2: really special. So I think that that's a privilege that
Speaker 2: we all have, and that's a privilege that frankly, we
Speaker 2: all have now because of social media.
Speaker 1: Every one of us.
Speaker 2: Every one of us has the privilege of saying, oh,
Speaker 2: I found this organization, I went there, I spoke to
Speaker 2: this person, this is what I found out. I think ultimately,
Speaker 2: we all want to help and it's hard to figure
Speaker 2: out who you can trust. So when you hear somebody
Speaker 2: talking about something that they where they've put in the work,
Speaker 2: where they talked with someone, where they learned something, that's
Speaker 2: something that we can all share with each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that's that one of the best
Speaker 1: parts of social media, Yeah, one of the Yeah, one
Speaker 1: of the best parts. Let's just say that you stand
Speaker 1: up for our communities that aren't always reached, like the
Speaker 1: Latina community specifically facing breast cancer. I'm curious what do
Speaker 1: you think the most urgent conversations in the Latina community
Speaker 1: around breast cancer awareness, early detection, let's say, equitable care.
Speaker 1: What do you think those conversations need to be.
Speaker 2: I think the conversation needs to be still early detection,
Speaker 2: being aware of it, and around shame. It's not your fault.
Speaker 2: I think that that's still happening. That's still important for
Speaker 2: you to feel like you didn't do anything wrong. You know,
Speaker 2: you didn't miss it, you didn't eat wrong, you didn't
Speaker 2: not exercise, you didn't there's still a little bit of
Speaker 2: a stigma. I think around shame with women and breast cancer,
Speaker 2: that maybe it was somehow their fall.
Speaker 1: That's wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: I think with anything with any illness or disease, our
Speaker 1: minds usually go straight.
Speaker 2: To what did I do?
Speaker 1: How did I mess this up? Yes, and look at
Speaker 1: all the people I'm going to upset or disappoint.
Speaker 2: I think that's also a female trait.
Speaker 1: What a fun trait to carry around?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it really is.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you are in what looks like a
Speaker 1: very happy marriage. Your husband, the remarkable Richard Mars so
Speaker 1: happy to see you so happy in this chapter of
Speaker 1: your life. You've talked talked about simplifying your life. You've
Speaker 1: talked about embracing a median lifestyle and health so that
Speaker 1: you and he can enjoy as many sunsets as possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that we have more behind us than ahead
Speaker 2: of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you, how would.
Speaker 2: You You're younger than your husband, right, yeahty nine, he's
Speaker 2: sixty two.
Speaker 1: Because nothing I thought. I don't know why. I thought
Speaker 1: there was a very difference. I've always seen you as younger.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but you'll always be. I'm one
Speaker 1: of those people that has likesaged me sometimes, I think,
Speaker 1: so this is like the free you know, very people
Speaker 1: are very comfortable around you. People comfortable.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: What helped you choose contentment and presence and health over
Speaker 1: perfectionism and the hustle and you know, I mean, especially
Speaker 1: with all those decades in such a high glamour industry.
Speaker 2: I think part of it maybe is realizing what I
Speaker 2: just said, that I have more sunsets behind me than
Speaker 2: ahead of me, and really figuring out how I want
Speaker 2: to spend my time, which is the most precious thing
Speaker 2: that we have, which is the most valuable thing that
Speaker 2: we have, and we don't get enough of it, especially
Speaker 2: when you meet your person later in life. There's just
Speaker 2: not enough of it. So it's really important to me
Speaker 2: to figure out how I want to spend my time.
Speaker 2: And I want to spend my time doing things that
Speaker 2: make me feel good, being with my family, being with
Speaker 2: my friends, creating a beautiful home, traveling with my husband
Speaker 2: who's still you know, a traveling, touring pop star, and
Speaker 2: I now get to travel with him. Like, how lucky
Speaker 2: am I?
Speaker 1: That sounds amazing, not just.
Speaker 2: That I get to travel with him, but I have
Speaker 2: the energy to travel with him, and I look forward
Speaker 2: to it and we have on the fact that I'm
Speaker 2: aware of that. I don't want to take that for granted.
Speaker 1: Going back to like the pressures that we put on
Speaker 1: ourselves as women, as women in your position, in my position,
Speaker 1: how did you manage that? How did you Because there
Speaker 1: was a long time when I mismanaged it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1: What did that look like when you mismanaged it?
Speaker 2: I think just feeling like I needed to do things
Speaker 2: the things, and saying a lot of yes to things
Speaker 2: instead of really thinking, like picking and choosing your yes.
Speaker 2: That's important, realizing what your priorities are, the fact that
Speaker 2: the things that you do or things that now you
Speaker 2: choose to do, they're not things that you have to do.
Speaker 2: You don't need the spotlight. You're doing things that make
Speaker 2: you feel good, that provide you and your family a
Speaker 2: little extra security. But we now have that choice. We
Speaker 2: always have a choice. There's always a choice. So picking
Speaker 2: and choosing what aligns with you and with your values
Speaker 2: and where you are at that particular stage of your
Speaker 2: life is definitely always worth considering. Pausing, meditating on it,
Speaker 2: feel it out, and also giving yourself permission to change
Speaker 2: your mind on things like, oh, I thought this was
Speaker 2: going to work. I don't like it, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: Did you ever have those moments where you say yes
Speaker 1: to things and then you know, a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: go by and then the thing is there, It's on
Speaker 1: the calendar tomorrow, it's happening. Why did I say.
Speaker 2: Yes to this the time all the time?
Speaker 1: How do you deal with that?
Speaker 2: Do you just have to suck it up and just
Speaker 2: do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sometimes you do, because and then I'm always happy that
Speaker 2: I did, Because I always kind of get into the
Speaker 2: mood of whether it's socializing or going out or getting
Speaker 2: dressed or whatever. It always ends up being fine. But
Speaker 2: sometimes I learned my lesson. I'm like, I remember the
Speaker 2: last time that I did that, it wasn't worth it.
Speaker 2: I am not doing it again.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. If we had that hindsight then.
Speaker 2: But we do. But we do do we know.
Speaker 1: Even in the moment you're saying we have it, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we now we have Now we have it.
Speaker 2: Now we have We didn't always have it. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: we've lived so much that we've pretty much done everything. Like, right,
Speaker 2: what's anyone going to throw at you that you haven't
Speaker 2: already experienced in one form or another. I mean like.
Speaker 1: Nothing, hopefully nothing everything. I think that there's probably a
Speaker 1: lot of things out there that I haven't done.
Speaker 2: That's because you don't want to do them, since I'm.
Speaker 1: Not putting myself in that position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, there are a lot of things I haven't
Speaker 2: done and I won't do because I don't want to
Speaker 2: do them. But we've experienced so much in our lives
Speaker 2: at this point, at this stage, we know we can
Speaker 2: trust our gut, we can see where something is heading.
Speaker 2: We know what's going to happen when you get to
Speaker 2: the thing with the people. You know it's going to
Speaker 2: be required of you, what's going to be asked of you.
Speaker 1: We know it. We didn't know it then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we kept hoping for a different outcome. I guess right,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's just survival. Yeah, I've committed to this,
Speaker 1: and that's okay.
Speaker 2: But at least you're going in and knowing what you're
Speaker 2: getting into, like, oh, this is my favorite thing to do,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to feel good doing it and I
Speaker 2: want to do it.
Speaker 1: And also you're probably going to learn something sure, sure
Speaker 1: from anything we have.
Speaker 2: There's a couple that we go out with a lot,
Speaker 2: and every now and then, well we'll make a dinner plan.
Speaker 2: We some of us will show up at dinner and
Speaker 2: we'll all look at each other and be like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I almost canceled tonight. And they'll be like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, we totally almost canceled tonight. I'm so
Speaker 2: glad we didn't. We can tell you that because we
Speaker 2: feel comfortable with you. But oh, I was hoping you
Speaker 2: would cancel. But then I was going to cancel, and
Speaker 2: I was, And we do that all the time. But
Speaker 2: we really love hanging out with each other, and the
Speaker 2: truth is, we'd all be fine if any one of
Speaker 2: us cancels, but we're like, no, we really want to
Speaker 2: do this. We're not going to get lazy. So it's
Speaker 2: really about acknowledging when you're being lazy, because the truth is,
Speaker 2: we can just sit around and do nothing, but we
Speaker 2: don't want to. We have to push ourselves to do
Speaker 2: some of the things that we know we're going to
Speaker 2: feel good about doing all the.
Speaker 1: Time, right, that are going to bring like new experiences
Speaker 1: or new insights or different perspectives. And you're like, I
Speaker 1: have a tendency to stay home a lot, yes, because
Speaker 1: this isn't a great love being home. It's the best
Speaker 1: I can just be content, right, and it's the best feeling.
Speaker 1: But sometimes I'm like, wait, do I have an issue here, Like, Emma,
Speaker 1: is this agoraphobia?
Speaker 2: Is that what it's called? Yes, I think it's an
Speaker 2: I think it's a balance. Okay, don't you think it's
Speaker 2: a balance, Because yes, we could totally stay home and
Speaker 2: do nothing and that would be fine, and we can
Speaker 2: also push ourselves to do too much of the stuff
Speaker 2: that we don't really need to do, So It's about
Speaker 2: pushing ourselves enough to keep ourselves, you know, energetic, and
Speaker 2: feeling like we are part of the world, and also
Speaker 2: taking the time to do nothing when you need it.
Speaker 2: I think it's an important balance and a difficult one.
Speaker 2: So true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the nervous system and the voice on
Speaker 1: repeat is so so strong.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you have you know, the craving for those endorphins
Speaker 1: of being that girl, the it girl, the girl that's
Speaker 1: got the flash bulbs going and everybody's wanting her. Did
Speaker 1: you do you look back now and recognize that.
Speaker 2: I look back now and thought I should have enjoyed
Speaker 2: that more, because there is a fun part to that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I should have enjoyed that more.
Speaker 1: Why weren't you enjoying it?
Speaker 2: I was too self conscious. I was too critical of
Speaker 2: the photos after I would see them. I was trying
Speaker 2: to always wear the perfect thing or always I was
Speaker 2: just thinking too much about all the nonsense, instead of
Speaker 2: being like, oh, how lucky I am I that I
Speaker 2: get to wear like this great dress, look fabulous in it,
Speaker 2: and then people want to take my picture like that's
Speaker 2: so great, It's so fun. If only I could have
Speaker 2: thought of it that simply.
Speaker 1: I don't think the word gratitude.
Speaker 2: Was talked about. It wasn't a big thing. I mean,
Speaker 2: I remember being grateful, feeling lucky. I remember feeling lucky
Speaker 2: to be in the position.
Speaker 1: That I was. Yeah, but I don't there's something different
Speaker 1: between feeling lucky and feeling grateful. I think you're right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because grateful, it's just you are able to step back
Speaker 1: and really appreciate everything that you've gotten to do. And
Speaker 1: I think again, with age comes that ability.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think with age we're more aware of living
Speaker 2: in the moment, of being present and acknowledging what's happening
Speaker 2: in that moment. I wasn't able to do that as
Speaker 2: much when I was younger. It was it was so fast.
Speaker 1: You've been a hustler. Yeah, you've been a badass hustler.
Speaker 2: I've been going and going and going.
Speaker 1: And do you feel like at this stage now, with
Speaker 1: your happy marriage and you're you know, began and healthy
Speaker 1: and all these wonderful attributes to this life that the
Speaker 1: stage that you're in.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely anti hustle culture right now.
Speaker 1: You are.
Speaker 2: I am anti hustle everywhere. Oh yeah, it is. I
Speaker 2: feel it.
Speaker 1: I feel it like I feel like I have to
Speaker 1: hustle in order to get to a certain point where
Speaker 1: I won't have to hustle anything.
Speaker 2: So like, for example, the cold plunges. I tried it,
Speaker 2: and then I was like, why in the world would
Speaker 2: I put myself through this?
Speaker 1: Or I can't even imagine. So I was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't care how good that is for me or
Speaker 1: how good you say that is for me. No, I'm
Speaker 1: sure it is really good for you, but I cannot
Speaker 1: do it. I don't want to do it.
Speaker 2: You know how people are saying, you know, you got
Speaker 2: to just got to get out of your comfort zone.
Speaker 2: You've got to push yourself to do the things that
Speaker 2: make you uncomfortable and take challenges. And I'm all, I'm
Speaker 2: all for a challenge, like I enjoy a good challenge
Speaker 2: every now and then. However, I am in the era
Speaker 2: where I am looking to step deeper into my comfort
Speaker 2: zone right now. So do not talk to me about
Speaker 2: getting out of my comfort zone because I've done that
Speaker 2: all my life and my.
Speaker 1: Life that's right, It's time to stay comfortable, damn right.
Speaker 1: I love that. Do you Guys have a lot of
Speaker 1: music going on your house? You like brings you peace?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: What does music do for you?
Speaker 2: It sets the mood, It sets the tone. It's when
Speaker 2: we have the lights on a timer, so at sunset exactly,
Speaker 2: our lights come on and they're dimmed exactly to a
Speaker 2: mood that we like all over the house. So it's
Speaker 2: like this dim light. The minute that that happens, the
Speaker 2: music comes on and rituals say can I make you
Speaker 2: more tini? Like yeah, wow, and we turn our house
Speaker 2: and our space into like let's welcome the night. And
Speaker 2: it just sets the tone. You can delete all the
Speaker 2: nonsense from the day, talk about it a little bit,
Speaker 2: and then just enjoy the night. And the music helps
Speaker 2: us set that tone.
Speaker 1: It really does. I forget about music and it's power.
Speaker 2: Sometimes when I wake up in the morning, I put
Speaker 2: on like a yoga meditation music, which is a certain
Speaker 2: frequency that is for calming and for being alert and
Speaker 2: for relaxation. So it's almost like when you walk into
Speaker 2: a spa. Yes, this this almost subliminal.
Speaker 1: Oh I just felt it. I just put myself in
Speaker 1: a spat thanks. Yeah, So I'm all about that. Like
Speaker 1: I want to have the music, I want to have
Speaker 1: the scent. I want to open all the doors.
Speaker 2: I want to create an environment for myself all the
Speaker 2: time that makes me feel good, you know. And the
Speaker 2: truth is, we've worked.
Speaker 1: So hard to have these nice homes that we have.
Speaker 2: And you know, I can tell that you take pride
Speaker 2: in like creating an ambiance and a home that you
Speaker 2: feel comfortable in. So why not fully treat ourselves to that.
Speaker 2: I'm big on light the candle, do the oil, incense,
Speaker 2: the music, and get the nice robe. And I'm all
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: Treat yourself home where the heart is deep. I always
Speaker 1: call myself a homemaker. I don't know why. It reminds
Speaker 1: me like Betty Crocker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you make the home.
Speaker 1: But I am a homemaker and I'm not ashamed to
Speaker 1: say it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I think most of us are. Most
Speaker 2: women MA make the home.
Speaker 1: We like to nest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we make we make it pretty, we make it
Speaker 2: comfortable for everybody, make it safe. Yep. And one thing
Speaker 2: I love about Richard is every now and then he'll
Speaker 2: say to me, He'll go, you know what. I know,
Speaker 2: I don't say it enough, but I really appreciate how
Speaker 2: beautiful you've made our home. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: somebody noticed. That's so nice I'm constantly like wanting to
Speaker 2: do it, mostly for myself, but I really appreciate it
Speaker 2: when other people notice it.
Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent true. Okay, So what would you
Speaker 1: tell young Daisy M to not be so self conscious?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Mention that, But what else I would.
Speaker 2: Tell her to be more present? I would say, look
Speaker 2: at your surroundings. Just stop, look at yourself, look at
Speaker 2: where you are, look at what you've done. Stop and
Speaker 2: think about how you feel. Think about what you want
Speaker 2: to do more than what everybody is telling you to do.
Speaker 2: You know, all through my twenties and thirties, I was
Speaker 2: hired talent. I was read the teleprompter and liked this video,
Speaker 2: do that interview, and dress this way where that don't.
Speaker 2: That's too sexy, that's not sexy enough. And I went
Speaker 2: with that flow for so long that when I really
Speaker 2: stopped to think about it, I didn't know what I wanted.
Speaker 2: I didn't know how I wanted to dress. I didn't
Speaker 2: know what my deal breakers were. I didn't know what
Speaker 2: I stood for. I didn't know what I And that
Speaker 2: realization was the beginning of my really coming into my
Speaker 2: own and standing up for myself and thinking about you know,
Speaker 2: who am I? Because people tell you, like, just be yourself.
Speaker 2: My best thing is to be authentic. Just be yourself.
Speaker 2: And you're going around thinking that you're being authentic and
Speaker 2: being yourself, but nobody tells you how to figure out
Speaker 2: who you are are? Like, who are you? So that
Speaker 2: you can be authentic? What are the things you need
Speaker 2: to ask yourself?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: What are your deal breakers? What do you like? What
Speaker 2: do you stand for? What won't you stand for anymore?
Speaker 2: What are your boundaries? Like without becoming militant about it,
Speaker 2: but just a realization for yourself so that you can
Speaker 2: lean a little bit more into who you are. How
Speaker 2: can you do that if you don't know who you are?
Speaker 1: It's so wild. I think I can only relate to
Speaker 1: the industry, growing up in the industry, and like you
Speaker 1: and I did, but I feel like we spend so
Speaker 1: much time, you know, being directed, told what to do.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Then you're all of a sudden, you're out in the world,
Speaker 1: like you said, and you have no idea who you
Speaker 1: are or what you should be doing. And it takes
Speaker 1: a good amount of time to sit with yourself in
Speaker 1: that uncomfortable space of acknowledging the fact that you don't
Speaker 1: know who the hell you are. Yeah, you don't know
Speaker 1: what you want? Yeah, what age do you think that
Speaker 1: happened for you?
Speaker 2: It started happening for me Probably might thirties, because before
Speaker 2: that I was just too busy to even stop to
Speaker 2: think about any of it. I was just going we
Speaker 2: all get caught up in that. I think. I see
Speaker 2: a lot of young women doing it now, and I
Speaker 2: guess that's that's the age where you just you go
Speaker 2: for it and you take advantage of opportunities that come
Speaker 2: your way. You're influenced by your peers, by people who
Speaker 2: you look up to, So that's the time to really
Speaker 2: take it all in and kind of try everything out.
Speaker 2: But it was I wish I'd done it sooner. I
Speaker 2: see a lot of young women I have younger friends
Speaker 2: and love. I think that women in their twenties are
Speaker 2: much more mature these days than they were when I
Speaker 2: was in my twenties, I think rightfully, so. They have
Speaker 2: so much more information. They're able to connect with the
Speaker 2: entire world. I wasn't.
Speaker 1: We're so isolated right in our own heads.
Speaker 2: Yes, So it wasn't really until my thirties that I
Speaker 2: started thinking about, like I would say, things, and then
Speaker 2: I would catch myself going, why do I think that?
Speaker 2: Where did I hear that? Who said it? Oh? So
Speaker 2: and so said it, and it resonated, so it must
Speaker 2: be true. We did a lot of that. We did
Speaker 2: a lot of repeating of the things that we heard
Speaker 2: other people who we thought were smarter saying. And that's
Speaker 2: when I stopped and I was like, I need to
Speaker 2: do my own thinking. Like one of the big things
Speaker 2: was religion. So I was like, I know how I
Speaker 2: was raised when I mean, I lived in New Jersey
Speaker 2: growing up. I was in high school, and I remember
Speaker 2: something that was great was being surrounded by people of
Speaker 2: different different backgrounds. You know, also my friend over here
Speaker 2: is Jewish, my friend is Muslim, this girl is Christian.
Speaker 2: I was raised Catholic. I'd go to their homes and
Speaker 2: there would be different customs and different things, and I
Speaker 2: didn't really understand it. And then I remember going, I
Speaker 2: want to learn about all religions. I want to read
Speaker 2: up on religions because when I talk about it, I
Speaker 2: want to understand it. When I meet someone who comes
Speaker 2: from a different background, I want to have an idea
Speaker 2: of how they were brought up, what they believe, what
Speaker 2: they don't what they stand for, and that was fascinating
Speaker 2: for That was one of the first times that I thought,
Speaker 2: I need to keep learning about everything everything.
Speaker 1: I think we think we know everything about everything at
Speaker 1: a certain age.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh. No, the older that I get, the more
Speaker 2: I realize there's so much I don't know that I
Speaker 2: need to know, like immediately I know.
Speaker 1: And then also the revelation that you have no control
Speaker 1: over anything. Yeah, is such a just like an opener.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that helped a little bit, realizing that that you
Speaker 2: have no control. That then you can release a little
Speaker 2: bit of control. Yeah, because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: And it's a lot to carry that control. It's very stressful,
Speaker 1: it is, it really is, and it catches up to you.
Speaker 2: And it always trying to creep back in there, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we want control so badly. What do you
Speaker 1: think people can learn from your journey? Oh, so far,
Speaker 1: your journey so far, My journey so far. I think
Speaker 1: people I would want people to learn to keep open
Speaker 1: to opportunities that may come your way. I think it's
Speaker 1: great to have an idea of what you want your
Speaker 1: life to be, but also stay open to possibilities because
Speaker 1: sometimes the universe has a better plan for you than
Speaker 1: you ever could dream up. Oh I love that. And
Speaker 1: and give yourself permission to change your mind on things.
Speaker 2: You're allowed to change your mind. You're allowed to uh
Speaker 2: not want to do things that you once wanted to do.
Speaker 2: You're allowed to not enjoy some things that you once enjoyed.
Speaker 2: It's important, in fact, change my mind, change my mind
Speaker 2: on things. I welcome people to change my mind, like
Speaker 2: I thrive on that. I think it's it's important. One
Speaker 2: of the things from my journey is to go with it. Like,
Speaker 2: just just go with it. Make the best of the situations.
Speaker 2: You know, whether the opportunity is great or not. If
Speaker 2: you're at a point in your life where just isn't
Speaker 2: what I wanted to do, well, maybe it's leading you
Speaker 2: to what you want to do. So always be really
Speaker 2: good at it. Whatever it is that you're doing, take
Speaker 2: pride in it. Do your best, do your best. Just
Speaker 2: take pride in learning and in doing the best that
Speaker 2: you can at whatever level you're at. I did learn
Speaker 2: that from my grandfather and then from my parents, and
Speaker 2: that was a big thing. Just always always be prideful
Speaker 2: in whatever work you're.
Speaker 1: Doing, and work hard. I feel like you've worked hard.
Speaker 2: I think work ethic is a big thing in my culture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, mine too.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I've loved our conversation so much. But before I let
Speaker 1: you go, I have to ask you, Daisy Fuentes, what
Speaker 1: was your last I Choose me moment?
Speaker 2: I think we I think we talked about it. But
Speaker 2: my last I choose I choose me moment was realizing
Speaker 2: that I want to slow down, that I don't want
Speaker 2: to do what everybody else thinks I should be doing.
Speaker 2: That doesn't feel good to me, like choosing a slow morning.
Speaker 2: You know, I keep hearing these women I wake up
Speaker 2: at five am, by six am, I've done this and
Speaker 2: I've done that, And I start and I start like hyperventilating,
Speaker 2: like my god, I got to wake up at five
Speaker 2: am tomorrow and I've got to do And then I
Speaker 2: remember thinking, going, no, no, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: That doesn't feel good to me. You know, it feels
Speaker 2: good to me waking up whenever I want. That's a
Speaker 2: luxury that I have earned at this stage of my life.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Not having to put the along my obviously unless I'm
Speaker 2: traveling or doing something I have to do, but not
Speaker 2: making an appointment for eight or nine am, because I
Speaker 2: like that time. I want to get up. I look
Speaker 2: at my birds. I have bird feeders. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: to ride a passage. Oh my god, birds we're up
Speaker 2: that age?
Speaker 1: Where were birds all my life? I know, I'm obsessed
Speaker 1: with my birds.
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with my birds. And it's so meditative for me.
Speaker 2: It's like they don't need me to have them. Do
Speaker 2: you have that? Nobody got to get it with the camera.
Speaker 1: Merlin you no, no, this the merlin.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you take a picture of the burden
Speaker 2: tells you exactly what it is, or you.
Speaker 1: Just it listens to the bird and it tells you
Speaker 1: what it is.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's oh, we're crazy. No, we're right, We're so
Speaker 2: not crazy, right, I think we're right. I love I
Speaker 2: love having my coffee looking at the window. I like
Speaker 2: doing my breathing. I like sitting by the fire when
Speaker 2: it's cold. I like sitting out in the sun when
Speaker 2: it's warm. I don't want to look at emails. I
Speaker 2: don't want to be rushed. I want to be present
Speaker 2: and have a slow mourning. And that is so.
Speaker 1: Anti what everybody's talking about.
Speaker 2: That is so anti what everybody thinks that we should
Speaker 2: do so. As much as everybody's going on and on
Speaker 2: about how like you need to live a week between
Speaker 2: five am and nine am, I am here to tell
Speaker 2: you that you can choose you and you can have
Speaker 2: a slow morning. I am the president of the Anti
Speaker 2: Hustle Culture Club.
Speaker 1: I'm signing up and I am here for you. I
Speaker 1: need to be in your club. I'm so about the
Speaker 1: hustle right now, yes, and I just it's tiring, and
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I feel like at my age
Speaker 1: it's time to hustle or it's time to you know,
Speaker 1: be where you are. And I feel like I'm not
Speaker 1: not ready to allow myself, yeah that much, but I
Speaker 1: do feel like I can see for you how you
Speaker 1: have lived this amazing life and you have earned right
Speaker 1: where you are right now.
Speaker 2: So have you, So you know, hustle when you want to,
Speaker 2: and you don't when you don't. That's it. That's a rap.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Daisy, You're awesome.