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Speaker 4: As we have a brand new crew on side inside

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Speaker 4: the SWBC Mortgage Studios. It's a podcast mix up week

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Speaker 4: here on the bye week for the Dallas Cowboys. It's

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Speaker 4: always been a tradition for Derek Eagleton and company to

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Speaker 4: throw a wrench into things and completely mix and match.

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Speaker 4: So we have four different podcasts represented now here on

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Speaker 4: Talking Cowboys. Of course we've got the return to Talking

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Speaker 4: Cowboys for Brian brought us who's on Cowboys Break, What's Up?

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Speaker 5: Double Beat? Doing well? Boys?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for allowing me to get in early today. I

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Speaker 2: don't have the tea time like church over there. We

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Speaker 2: got a lot going on in the city that I'm

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Speaker 2: a part of. So excited to be with you guys

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Speaker 2: this morning.

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Speaker 4: Kurt and are Barry don't understand it yet, but this

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Speaker 4: is really just going to be a draft show.

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Speaker 5: If that's the case, Kurt's going to have us ride

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Speaker 5: a magazine here.

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Speaker 4: While throw it together and get it done early. We

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Speaker 4: have Kurt Daniels from hanging with the boys.

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Speaker 6: What's going on, Kurt.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad to see you guys.

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Speaker 7: Always fun to hang out with some new company around here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 6: It's a little bit different than Nate Shannon and Jesse right.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know that one's we're always just steps away

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Speaker 7: from driving into the ditch.

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Speaker 2: So at least they got somebody that put their hands

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Speaker 2: on the wheel. You can lean over and like maybe

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Speaker 8: Sometimes try.

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Speaker 5: I try.

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Speaker 6: Then you've got Nate like slapping the hand down and

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Speaker 6: say no.

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Speaker 5: Let's keep this thing wrong.

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Speaker 8: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite Nate story was I was doing a

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Speaker 2: pregame with him one time, or actually a postgam sorry,

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Speaker 2: and and I was just going off as one of

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Speaker 2: those bad cowboy losses. And I was just going off

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Speaker 2: on it and and and we went to commercial. Lindsay

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Speaker 2: Draper through at the break and Nate.

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Speaker 5: Looks at me.

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Speaker 2: He goes, you're trying to get fired, aren't you. And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like Nate, he goes, I know I

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Speaker 2: feel the same way, man, I just can't say it

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Speaker 2: the way you say it. That's the fun thing about

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Speaker 2: working with Nate. He always he's always going to give

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Speaker 2: you his opinion on the.

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Speaker 5: Will toe the line. He does a great job of it.

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Speaker 4: Speaking up, We've got Barry Church, yes sir, from the

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Speaker 4: players Loud Yes sir, and many other Dallas Cowboys dot

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Speaker 8: Have my fingerprints all over it.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 8: But I'm glad i'm here early.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Usually I got the two PM the middle of the day,

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Speaker 9: you know, I can't get that swing in. But today,

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Speaker 9: today is a different story.

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Speaker 5: It's a little bit different. We got the coat and

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Speaker 5: tie guys here today with us as well. Yeah, true, true.

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Speaker 4: It was funny because when Derek first released the nine Am,

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Speaker 4: we saw it at the same time that Cowboys fans

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Speaker 4: where they was like, hey, can you make it? Like No,

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Speaker 4: Derek just threw it out there and said here it is.

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Speaker 4: And my first thought was, man, that's early for BC.

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Speaker 4: But he gets on the golf course too.

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Speaker 6: Gotta wake up a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 4: But now you get to go swing the golf clubs

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Speaker 4: a little bit here in.

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Speaker 6: A couple of moments. But glad to have you guys

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Speaker 4: Of course, if if you're a normal listener to talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: be sure to check out Cowboys Break, Hang with the Boys,

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Speaker 4: Players Lounge. All these guys do great jobs with their

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Speaker 5: But we do have some some cowboys to talk about.

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Speaker 4: And I really wanted to use today and Monday as

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Speaker 4: checkup self, say yeah, self, scout, kind of look in words,

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Speaker 4: see what this team is. Did we over anticipate? Did

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Speaker 4: we put too much expectations, too many expectations on this

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Speaker 5: Or was it just right?

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Speaker 4: Do you still believe that this team can get where

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Speaker 4: I'll start with you, Brian, whenever you look at the

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Speaker 4: expectations that you had specifically for this team going into

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. Have they wavered to this point in

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there was going to be a loss

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Speaker 2: We really haven't seen that one yet. You know, maybe

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Speaker 2: foreign two at this point, you know, I'm a little

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Speaker 5: June predictions on the radio.

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Speaker 2: It was, Okay, they're gonna be three and three, and

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Speaker 2: McCarthy's gonna hand over the play calling to Brian Schottenheimmer.

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Speaker 2: I just thought there was just so much turnover on

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Speaker 5: So I believe that right where I thought.

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Speaker 2: Maybe defensively I'm a little bit more concerned than I

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Speaker 2: kind of felt this is maybe where they were gonna

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Speaker 7: that record wise, Yeah, fourign two, this is probably where

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Speaker 8: I think, yeah, I'm gonna make it a three for three

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Speaker 9: When you talk about record wise, I feel like this

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Speaker 9: I think this is where I kind of figured they

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Speaker 8: Play to the strength of our defense.

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Speaker 9: And I think that's what you've seen so far from

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Speaker 8: I think they've played to the strength, which is the defense.

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Speaker 9: What's concerning for me, and I'm gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 9: You're going against an athletic quarterback who gave your defense

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Speaker 8: The league, he missed a lot of wide open throws

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Speaker 2: Two games, well, there's people, I know, the national media,

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Speaker 2: tell you, well, Dallas, you know, was on their way

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Speaker 5: Here in Dallas that they've had in the seventies.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you're you're kind of like those were

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Speaker 2: the digs injury I think is huge, just because to me,

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Speaker 5: But you know what they did.

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Speaker 9: The biggest play of the game with Pollard, everything was

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Speaker 8: But the rest of these guys we're talking about Gallup Cooks.

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Speaker 8: Just haven't seen that yet.

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Speaker 5: Real quick too.

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Speaker 2: If you're one of those people out there that says

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: He does nothing. It's been his history.

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Speaker 2: You know, but you but they just keep rolling with him.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if we're going to see more

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Speaker 2: You could have thrown him twenty balls the other day

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Speaker 2: Everybody wants to throw Tolbart and there get all those

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Speaker 4: Kurt, you were talking about the concern on the offensive

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Speaker 6: Would that help you in terms of your offensive concern

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Speaker 7: The Ringer had a story last week. I thought it

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Speaker 7: You got to get the bar in Lamb's hands. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: Ferguson is here hitting this. The other receivers Finally, we

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Speaker 5: So we've talked about the quarterback a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Can I throw something in real quick too?

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Speaker 2: Your backup tight ends are doing absolutely nothing tight ends, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: That these guys adapt as they go.

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Speaker 2: They're like, listen, we've got to figure out more ways

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Speaker 4: Well if I mean they watched the same film that

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Speaker 6: Watch the same ALL twenty two.

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Speaker 4: When you look at it, I think that you can

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Speaker 6: The offensive line and say, man, these guys are just

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Speaker 5: It's great.

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Speaker 6: No, there's leakage upfront.

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Speaker 4: You can see that Dak showed that quite a bit

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Speaker 4: just by moving and maneuvering out of it, getting out

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Speaker 5: Do you think that affects the play.

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Speaker 4: Calling from Mike McCarthy knowing confidence wise, Okay, we may

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Speaker 4: not have as much time upfront, so I've got.

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Speaker 2: To call a play this way as opposed to that.

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Speaker 2: I think Arizona game was I think he and he

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Speaker 2: admitted it. He admitted it that that that the night

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Speaker 2: before the game, he loses three offensive linemen and all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, he's like, Okay, well, here's my massive

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Speaker 2: play card that looks like a menu at uh, you know, wherever? Yeah, whatever, whatever,

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Speaker 2: what's our cheesecake? Cheesecake fatty?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? They hand you that manual, you know, like war

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Speaker 5: in peace, and.

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Speaker 2: You're like, oh, well, I think i'll have you're doing that, Mike.

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Speaker 2: That's what Mike's play call sheet looks like. It looks

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Speaker 2: like it looks like that that menu. And you know,

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Speaker 2: he had to probably take off sections that he wanted

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Speaker 2: to call in that game. But the offensive line in

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Speaker 2: that game, because of they did all the work in

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Speaker 2: the preseason, held up early. Well, that wasn't the problem.

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Speaker 2: He got scared because of that. And I do feel

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Speaker 2: like though, there's some things like people are looking at

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Speaker 2: this offense the way they're running the football, and in

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Speaker 2: this last game especially, it just they're like, oh, what's

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Speaker 2: this three yards and a cloud of dust?

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Speaker 5: Offense?

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Speaker 2: It looks that way because they're trying to get the

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Speaker 2: ball to the edge with pullers.

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Speaker 5: And you know, and and guy and and it.

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Speaker 2: It's just so cluttered at the point of attack that

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Speaker 2: Pollock's hap it or you know, these guys are doubt

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Speaker 2: all having to take it back inside and it looks

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Speaker 2: like inside run every time. And it's really they're trying

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Speaker 2: to get the ball to the edge, but they just

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Speaker 2: they're losing so many blocks. And again in that game

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Speaker 2: uh La last Monday night, it's just you know, you

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Speaker 2: can't you can't do that. You can't pull guys and

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Speaker 2: try and set things up and then have guys just

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Speaker 2: get you know, taken apart at the point of attack.

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Speaker 7: So is it a learning to get the chemistry again?

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Speaker 7: Is it a you know, got mikelari in a new scheme,

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Speaker 7: or is it this is that aging talent is not

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Speaker 7: what we thought it was.

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Speaker 2: Well, you get a banged up guard, a banged up

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame guard. You've got a left tackle that

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Speaker 2: is a Hall of famer. But he's not the same

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Speaker 2: guy at all. He's not the same guy. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: have the lateral slide. There was a time where Murray

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Speaker 2: the linebacker just completely outruns him and you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: Tyron Smith five years ago.

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Speaker 5: He's he's like, he takes that heart in sidestep.

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Speaker 2: And then he's up second level and he's pushing that

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Speaker 2: linebacker completely past the play, but now he can't get Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's well the right tack he is, he's they're not.

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Speaker 2: We've seen we've seen Martin and Steel combo block and

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Speaker 2: second level, that thing where it's just together and they

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Speaker 2: push and then they get it walled off and now

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Speaker 2: there goes the ball. Ye you know, we've seen it

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Speaker 2: where it's hit its spots and it's like, oh, here

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Speaker 2: we go. That's what let see. Haven't seen that as

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Speaker 2: much this year. The tight ends aren't winning as much

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Speaker 2: as they and that's been a problem. They draft Schoonmaker.

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Speaker 2: I'm the biggest Loop Schoonmaker fan in the building.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 2: During the draft show and all that, we're talking about it.

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Speaker 2: But and then they use mcew and is a trail

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Speaker 2: on a on a pull and he gets whacked two

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Speaker 2: different times, never gets a block, So why and why

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Speaker 2: you pulling guys Hunter Lipkey? He gets whacked at the

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Speaker 2: point of attack. So you're you're trying to create things.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to create, You're saying, Okay, I'm gonna take

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Speaker 2: my best guy and try and put him in a

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Speaker 2: position to block, and then they get whacked at the

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Speaker 2: point of attack. Now you're like going, well, okay, what

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Speaker 2: am I trying to do here? My game plan was

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Speaker 2: built on trying to move my linemen and pull guys

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Speaker 2: and take advantage of some counters.

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Speaker 5: And it's not working, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean they went from that thirteen personnel stuff got

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Speaker 2: just destroyed twice. Didn't run it in the second half.

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Speaker 2: You know why, because Mike's like, whoop, across that one off.

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Speaker 2: That's not gonna work today, minus one, negative two, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: across those off.

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Speaker 6: It takes his breakfast, lunch and menu dinner Geahn to

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Speaker 6: just a breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the twenty six appetizers that he could order from

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Speaker 2: there at the cheesecake factory.

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Speaker 4: It certainly is a concern upfront, and I think the

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Speaker 4: offensive line with it, even with the starting five being

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Speaker 4: where they are. Like you said, it's not the same

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Speaker 4: as what we've anticipated, but there's other.

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Speaker 5: Things we expected a lot more.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and maybe maybe it can change it. Maybe it

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Speaker 2: can change I think you're going to play better defensive lines.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to probably always play defensive lines like

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. But on the horizon, if you squit,

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Speaker 2: you can see that bunch in from the east, you know,

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Speaker 2: standing right twice?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, don't forget about the commanders still up.

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Speaker 5: I mean they'll beat you up to this segment.

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Speaker 5: Don't talk about Aaron Donald. It's the bye week, guys.

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Speaker 4: We can't talk about he has coming up when we

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Speaker 4: come back. We'll look at the offensive side a little

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Speaker 4: bit more. Brian mentioned the tight ends. I want to

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Speaker 4: dive into what could be fixed from the tight end room.

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Speaker 4: Is it just inconsistency? Is it a lack of confidence?

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Speaker 4: Where could the tight end see an uptick? And then

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Speaker 4: of course we'll dive deeper into the defense as well.

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Speaker 4: What's going on on that side of the football.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you know we stop over here with hanging

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Speaker 4: do you guys?

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Speaker 5: I don't think so. Derek's like, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: I'll send people to Fort Worth when they really need

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Speaker 2: to go to Arlington, like Brian, we did. We didn't

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Speaker 2: think about bull riding yesterday, p BR. Yeah, it's happening

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Speaker 2: like in May. That might be a read I have

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get really good at it. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 5: able to ride a bull. But now I say I'll

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Speaker 5: do my best. I'll jack that thing up. I feel sorry,

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Speaker 5: sorry PBR about that.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, Brian, you brought up the tight ends a

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Speaker 4: little bit, and I'm going to talk about that going

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Speaker 4: into this next segment because it is really a game changer, especially.

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Speaker 6: In the modern day NFL.

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Speaker 4: That sure is to have a game changing tight end

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Speaker 4: to have a guy that you can rely on. Jake

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Speaker 4: Ferguson has been as close to that as anybody on

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Speaker 4: the roster so far. But outside of that, there really

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Speaker 4: hasn't been.

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Speaker 5: Hendershot's been nicked up a whole lot of hell it's hurt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, Luke Schooonmaker second round pick, bring back McEwan.

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Speaker 4: I think it was unfortunate in the preseason they lost

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Speaker 4: John Stevens.

661
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 5: That was another dynamic receiver that you could have used.

662
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 4: Barry as a former safety in the league, and you

663
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 4: look at a tight end in the today's NFL. How

664
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 4: imperative is it to have depth, to have not just

665
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 4: one guy that you can rely on.

666
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 6: I mean, even look at Kansas City. They didn't just

667
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 6: have Kelsey, they got Gray Gray in there too.

668
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 5: That's doing some things.

669
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 4: You saw the Ertz and god It attack a couple

670
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 4: of years ago with Philadelphia.

671
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 6: How big is it to have other guys that you

672
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 6: can mix a match well.

673
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 9: From a defensive perspective, it's huge because when you're going

674
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 9: out there and these guys can lock you in to

675
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 9: a personnel group and you got to stay in that

676
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 9: base personnel group to match up.

677
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 8: With those guys.

678
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 9: It's extremely tough, especially when you got a tight end

679
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 9: out there who can block as well as be a

680
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 9: receiving threat out there, because who you're gonna line up

681
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 9: on them when you're in your base. You gotta either

682
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 9: throw a linebacker out there who he can probably just outrun,

683
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 9: or safety out there who he can out physical. I mean,

684
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 9: we see it all the time. So having depth at

685
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 9: that position in more than one guy is is of

686
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 9: themost importance. And then when you look at the Cowboys,

687
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 9: I think Ferguson he can be that guy in my opinion.

688
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 5: He has the rout.

689
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 9: Running ability and the receiving ability I think to be

690
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 9: one of those abrechelon tight ends. Now when it comes

691
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 9: to the block, and that's where he kind of slacks

692
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 9: off at a little bit, kind of reminded me of

693
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 9: Schultz a little bit in that regard. But overall, I

694
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 9: think he can be that guy. We just got to

695
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 9: bring a number two behind him in that regard. These

696
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 9: guys have been dropping some tight or some dropping some

697
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 9: touchdowns out there. When you look at Hndershot, when you

698
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 9: look at Schoolmaker out there, and hopefully they can, you know,

699
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 9: develop their game. But if we can get two of

700
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 9: those guys going out there. I think it'll be a

701
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 9: huge difference for this offense going forward, un.

702
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: Til the forty nine ers kill you too. They're getting

703
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: that twenty two personnel, you know, the two bad two

704
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: tight ends, and they and they move guys and they

705
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: they just they find ways to take advantage. And I

706
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 2: think the Cowboys would like to do some of the

707
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: things tight end packages. You know, I don't know how

708
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: much they really this is being reckless. I don't know

709
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: how much they really trust Luke Schoonmaker right now. You know,

710
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: there's things. I mean, he he has been getting opportunities

711
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: in the previous game.

712
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 5: This last week.

713
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: He didn't get as many opportunities in these games. And

714
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 2: maybe they felt like that they could attack this charger

715
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: secondary with the with their wide outs and you know,

716
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: getting eleven personnel stuff and be able to But you know,

717
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: they've they've got to They're they're they're lacking right now.

718
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 5: As a unit when it comes to their their run blocking.

719
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: It just hasn't been And that's one of the reasons

720
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: why I was cheerleading for Schoonmaker because I'd seen him

721
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: at Michigan. When you watch Michigan run the football, Blake

722
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: Korum and those guys. They hammer that ball and it

723
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: was a lot of time it was schoonmaker either uh

724
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: you know, in line why right next to the tackle,

725
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: pushing or movement, and then being that guy at the

726
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: point of attack.

727
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 5: They need to do something with him in that way.

728
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: I think he would be a better fit, better option

729
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: than what they have with Sean McEwen. I've yet to

730
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: see Sean McEwan take his nose and stick it in

731
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: the middle of somebody's numbers and get that kind of

732
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: that push. I'm sure there's somebody that will find a

733
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: clip of him blocking, but I know in this game

734
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: the other day, it was he was.

735
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 5: Not a factor like they were asking him to be.

736
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 4: I think the one thing, sorry Kurt, that I remember

737
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: with McEwen is he's a good downfield blocker, but he's.

738
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 6: Not a good in line blocker. He's just not.

739
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 5: That's what they're asking him to do.

740
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: And he's pulling on the back side of a you know,

741
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: it's it's Tyler Smith pulling and him on the trail

742
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: and now they're getting just guys are getting just compressed

743
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: at the point, and you know it's like he's kind

744
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: of like I'm not sure where to go. I'm not

745
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: sure where to be, and then his guy leaks off

746
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: and then makes a play, and then you wonder why

747
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: it's a two yard game and why they're running into

748
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: a brick wall here.

749
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 7: So how do you fix that problem?

750
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 8: Can you gaming up differently?

751
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 5: I don't gets better. Well, that's the whole idea.

752
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: You drafted Scoonmaker with the thought of being that point

753
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: of attack, getting the push guy. I would maybe consider

754
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: flipping him and Sean McEwan out, but they might say,

755
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: well listen, we you know, with Ferguson, Ferguson will fight

756
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: his ass off, but he's just limited right now. I mean,

757
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: they take him and he gets compressed. There's defenders, will

758
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: you know, there's there's like a little hole, natural crease there,

759
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: you know, with they get all the blocks where they

760
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: get him set up, and then Ferguson's fighting pressure, but

761
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: he's getting rocked into the hole. And now Pollard's looking

762
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: at it like, wait a minute, where's the hole?

763
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 5: It was there?

764
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: Now it's not there kind of a thing. So yeah,

765
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: you know, Kurt, I I don't know, maybe in maybe

766
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: in a year. Yeah, that sounds terrible to say. With

767
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: Luke Schoonmaker growing and doing what he has to do.

768
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: But they maybe they have to think about should we

769
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: try and run the ball away from strength, you know,

770
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: if we're gonna cut off, Yeah, if we're gonna if

771
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: we're gonna do a deal where you're I'm not a coordinator.

772
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm just a radio guy. I mean, I've done this now,

773
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying though, maybe your tendency is if

774
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: you runned the ball behind say Ferguson in line that

775
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: you're you know, you're trying to like create you know,

776
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, we're gonna take it to the strength

777
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: side of the formation.

778
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 5: Maybe think about some more weak.

779
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: Side runs is what I was thinking about here, just

780
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: to kind of not let people overplay and kill your

781
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: tight ends at the point of attack.

782
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 8: And that's what it sounds like, like they're struggling with power.

783
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: It is and it is and it's and you know too,

784
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 2: like I said, Steele and Martin haven't been as clean

785
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: as And we interview Zach Martin every Thursday on the

786
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: g Bag Nation and we talked about and he loves

787
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: playing next to Steel And you got to give still

788
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: a lot of credit when they were running the ball

789
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: when they when when the Cowboys have run the ball

790
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: in the past, those two guys have been a big

791
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: part of it because of their ability to combo block

792
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 2: and push that you know, secure the down lineman and

793
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: get up on that line back.

794
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 4: And there's also a lot of analytics that even this

795
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 4: year show that Tony Pollard loves.

796
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 6: To finish because you were talking about it too. Where

797
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 6: they're trying to get to the outside and then they

798
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 6: got to cut back inside.

799
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 5: Well where is his safety valve.

800
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 6: It's in between Zach Martin and Terrence.

801
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: And you know look where they ran the quarterback sneak

802
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: the you know, the tush push. They tried to push

803
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: it to the right and your center just you know,

804
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 2: he got blasted in there, and that happens. I mean,

805
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: it's just like you know, you get turned. But you know,

806
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 2: they had one of the best runs they had the game.

807
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 5: What happened.

808
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: They get everybody blocked and then ceedee lamb is just

809
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: hands outside and he's you know and then he you know,

810
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: kind of lets go. But but all the officials need

811
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: to see is hands outside. So here they have a

812
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 2: run where they do get everything walled inside to the

813
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: corner around the corner nine yard game. Opp holding got

814
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 2: to come back ten yards, you know that kind of thing.

815
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: So even when they had some success with a running play,

816
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: it was, you know, it was like, uh, Nope, can't

817
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: do that, can't hold on the outside.

818
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 9: Would you have them more in kind of like a

819
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 9: off the line situation where they can get maybe a

820
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 9: couple couple heads start a little.

821
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 5: Bit, you know what I would worry about.

822
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: Like it's a good point because sometimes you could get

823
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: guys that will motion across and you've dealt with this

824
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: because you play down in the box. You get a

825
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: guy that motions and all of a sudden he has

826
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: a running go. But then again you aggressively attack him

827
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: at the line and then there's that collision. That's that's

828
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: the problem that Pollard in these backs are dealing with

829
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: right now, in my opinion, is they see when they

830
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: get the ball, they see like white jersey flash and

831
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: it's not the defenders, it's their own teammate, you know,

832
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: being right there. So putting guys on the move, do

833
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: they get compressed there or do they just get thrown off?

834
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: You know, they're just not there's just not that bass

835
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: from these guys.

836
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 4: If you play them off the line of scrimmage, and Barry,

837
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 4: I'm sure you probably read this the same way, but

838
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 4: when you play them off the line of scrimmage, it's

839
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 4: almost like putting them on an island to a certain extent, right, because.

840
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 5: There's a little bit more space.

841
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 4: Yes, you can't get that that forward motion and maybe

842
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: an extra step into that collision. But it also leaves

843
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 4: you alone a lot of times because you're not locked

844
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: up with someone, or you.

845
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: Play against Tank Lawrence when you try and crack him

846
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: and he knows and he like sees the crack and

847
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: he spends it and now you're you know, now you're

848
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: getting grass stains on the front of your uniform because

849
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: you dove right straight into the ground. Yeah, you know,

850
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: you get You get some smart guys like very like

851
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: they the guys that play around in that line of scrimmage.

852
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: They know they're gonna get cracked. They're gonna try and

853
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: get hooked. You know, there's gonna be things that they're

854
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: gonna have. Some of these guys are really excellent to

855
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: do it, like Kyle Uscheck and I know he's an

856
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: all pro full back, but he has a feel for

857
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: how to play on the move and then get into

858
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: you and turn you because he's got a little bit,

859
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: he's got the base and the power and he's done

860
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: it enough. These guys, you know, time and task. We'll

861
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: see with ferguson those guys. It's just not a very

862
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 2: powerful group right now. That's that's an issue.

863
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 4: I think, what did you want to see from from

864
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 4: the tight ends when you were playing?

865
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 6: What what did they do? What end cater did they

866
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 6: give you that said, Okay, I'm gonna have some success

867
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 6: on that snap.

868
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 8: Well, to me when I was going against you know,

869
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 8: tight ends that I.

870
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 9: Can't run, I'm like, I'm gonna have an easy day today,

871
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 9: stay on this low hip all thing. But when you

872
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 9: when you go against guys and you just got to

873
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 9: understand your personnel. When you're going out there and you're

874
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 9: going against a guy that thrives being detached from the

875
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 9: line of scrimmage, do you know, hey, I'm gonna have

876
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 9: my work cut out for me as as far as

877
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 9: coverage is concerned. Or are you going to go against

878
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Speaker 9: a guy kind of like a Winting where he's crafty,

879
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 9: he can get in there at that line of scrimmage

880
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Speaker 9: and he might not be the most powerful guy, but somehow,

881
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Speaker 9: some way he can use that vet savvy to hope

882
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Speaker 9: you kind of like you.

883
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Speaker 8: Check out there.

884
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Speaker 9: So when you're going against guys like that, you just

885
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 9: kind of have to know your personnel. But to me,

886
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Speaker 9: it was always tougher, and because I wasn't the best

887
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Speaker 9: cover guy, so it was always tougher going against detached

888
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 9: tight ends out there because then my eyes are open

889
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 9: to everything. Man, I gotta read the run. I gotta

890
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 9: read this guy. He's going vertical. I know I can

891
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 9: beat him physically, but when it comes to routes and

892
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 9: diagnose and plays, it becomes a lot tougher.

893
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 8: When you got a tight end out there.

894
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Speaker 5: Was it like when you played like an against zach Ertz.

895
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Speaker 5: You knew was going to always kind of be up

896
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Speaker 5: the field, but.

897
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Speaker 2: When you saw him along the line, you're like, I'm

898
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Speaker 2: going to attack him, must because I'm going to grab

899
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Speaker 2: him and throw him on the ground.

900
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Speaker 5: Got him, but don't want to let him get a release.

901
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but all of a sudden he tries to nod

902
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: me outside and I jump, and now he's inside and

903
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: you're chasing.

904
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Speaker 5: That's the nightmare right there.

905
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: But you know that he's blocking in line like that,

906
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: you just grab and throw him on the ground.

907
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 8: Do you like these tight ends?

908
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 7: Then in the passing game, you know what I bunning game?

909
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 5: No, they got something.

910
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: The problem, the problem I have is I'm one of

911
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: these guys that believe that that Michigan did not play

912
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Speaker 2: to the strengths of what Luke Schoonmaker. I think Luke

913
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: Schoonmakers can be a good receiving tight end. I know

914
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: he had the drop, you know when against the cover

915
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 2: two there, you know he's got to make that play.

916
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 2: But I just feel like, though that Ferguson can catch

917
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Speaker 2: the ball. I think Hindershot can catch the ball too,

918
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: I really really do. I just don't know though. Like

919
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Speaker 2: I say, the biggest concern I have, and we've talked

920
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 2: about it here for the last eight minutes, has been

921
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: how these guys block. Yeh, that's that's my biggest concern,

922
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Speaker 2: because I think these guys can make plays down the field.

923
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: I love Jake Ferguson and the open field. How many

924
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Speaker 2: times does he make guys miss?

925
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Speaker 5: He really does?

926
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Speaker 2: I mean it's like, Okay, it's third and seven, he

927
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: gets nine, it's third and six he gets eight. You know,

928
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: he's always making a guy miss and finishing to where

929
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Speaker 2: you know he's getting the first down for you, and

930
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: those types of things. So I think these guys can catch.

931
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: I just worry about are there ways to play around

932
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: the lack of some of the point of attack blocking

933
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Speaker 2: that they're dealing with right now?

934
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Speaker 5: Does it make you feel any better? Actually, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: I've been invited to everybody. That's what he told me.

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Speaker 5: But it's gonna cost you. He'll tell you, though, beforehand,

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Speaker 2: walk off the eighteenth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh man, all right, So we've got a couple

1001
00:42:59,120 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 4: of minutes left.

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Speaker 5: I feel like Kurt's probably the best golfer at this table.

1003
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 5: He just doesn't talk about it.

1004
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Speaker 6: I don't play hm, he doesn't play around.

1005
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 5: That's how good he is. Guys, doesn't play around.

1006
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 8: What made you make that statement?

1007
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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, I just think.

1008
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 5: He's the best.

1009
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: He's quiet over there, he's looking at he looks, he

1010
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 4: looks at how big and husky I am.

1011
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 5: And I don't turn very well. And that's the problem there.

1012
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: Tyler Smith or Tyrone Smithyron Smith, very very.

1013
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 5: Stiff big Andy. Hall of Famer, Hall of Fame. That's fair.

1014
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 6: Let's talk about the tight ends just a little bit more.

1015
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 4: Because I talked with Jake Ferguson last week and I

1016
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 4: kind of went up to him and he kind of

1017
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: gave me a look, and I was like.

1018
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 5: What's the look? What's the look?

1019
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 4: He said, that's time to be more physical. Yeah, it's

1020
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 4: time to and he said the words that I can't.

1021
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 5: Say on this show.

1022
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 4: But it's not just week before the game, before the game,

1023
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 4: time to mess stuff up is what he said. And

1024
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: I basically said, I was like, okay, what does that mean?

1025
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 4: He said, I don't want to get a pen, I

1026
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: don't want to get flagged, but I want to be

1027
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 4: the first one to get in there and lay down

1028
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 4: the hammer, lay down the physicality. There were a couple

1029
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 4: of times in the most recent matchup where he did

1030
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 4: show some physicality block on the edge.

1031
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 5: He's just limited. These guys are a little bit limited

1032
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 5: right now. Do you think they can hit that ceiling

1033
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 5: with a better mentality.

1034
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: I don't think it's mentality. I think you physically have

1035
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: to have the ability. I think they have the desire,

1036
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: the willingness. They're asking them to do some things. You know,

1037
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: that's what coaching is. You have to play to you

1038
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: the strengths of your players. There's going to be a

1039
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: time where in this season they're going to have to

1040
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: hide Gilmore. I think they are, and I keep mentioning

1041
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: I just mentioned him because he doesn't run as well.

1042
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: And what's happening is teams are going to figure out

1043
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: if they carry him across the field, he's going to

1044
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: struggle to chase. He's going to run like hell to

1045
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: try and get there, but he's just limited. So now

1046
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 2: you're going to have to think about, Okay, if teams

1047
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 2: are starting to run in breaking routes on him, where

1048
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: we're going to position the safety there.

1049
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 5: You know where we're gonna do.

1050
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna drop linebackers, We're gonna gonna help him in

1051
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: coverage in case people start taking the routes.

1052
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 5: Same thing with the tight ends.

1053
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: You can't put these guys in positions where they can't

1054
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: they can't get it done. You know, like I said,

1055
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: they got into thirteen personnel a couple of times with

1056
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: McEwan ran the plays, they were negative plays. Those go

1057
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Speaker 2: off the call sheet. You know, I'm like, okay, we

1058
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: can't do this anymore. And that's what that's what this coach,

1059
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: this this you know coaching is really about. It's about

1060
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: knowing your personnel and figuring out ways to take advantage

1061
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 2: of them.

1062
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Speaker 9: Look, I mean, when you talk about it, at the

1063
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 9: end of the day, these tights, there's some good tight ends,

1064
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 9: all right, they're good tight ends, but I don't believe

1065
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 9: they're gonna be the difference for this offense moving forward,

1066
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 9: getting getting things done.

1067
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 5: It made me feel better, true, I just go by

1068
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: what I see.

1069
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 9: I mean, are they great complimentary police pieces short, They

1070
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 9: can go out there and get you some receptions here

1071
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 9: and there. But when it comes down to it, this

1072
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 9: offense I don't think needs to run through the tight

1073
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 9: ends by any stretch of the imaginations. Like I said,

1074
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 9: I think you can dump some things off to them.

1075
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 9: Maybe they can be your security blanket when everything else

1076
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 9: breaks down. But when it comes down to these tight ends,

1077
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Speaker 9: you know, I feel like they need to get better locking. Yeah,

1078
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 9: I think they they definitely need to do better at

1079
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 9: the point of attack, But when it comes to this offense,

1080
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 9: I would put them maybe third or fourth down the

1081
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 9: priority list. When we talk about getting guys involved in

1082
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Speaker 9: the offense and how we're going to be more productive

1083
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 9: going forward. I would love to see more production from

1084
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 9: these other wide receivers. Hopefully they can bring that to

1085
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Speaker 9: the table because we know teams are gonna start limiting

1086
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Speaker 9: CD Lamb.

1087
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Speaker 8: I mean, it's just it's just how.

1088
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 5: We see triple teams.

1089
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Speaker 8: He's gonna see triple.

1090
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 9: Teams, and that just it's perplexing to me that teams

1091
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Speaker 9: like Minnesota, justin Jefferson, teams like Miami with Tyreek Hill

1092
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 9: defenses know they're going to take this guy away, but

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00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 9: still they're able to go out there and produce.

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00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 8: And have great numbers. Why can't we do that here

1095
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 8: in Dallas. That to me, it's just I don't understand it.

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00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 5: Tell them, Kurt, you're getting Christmas card from the head ball.

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00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 5: I just don't understand it.

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00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what they did. Scheme a pretty

1099
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: good play in the San Francisco game. Maybe the best

1100
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: player that they had was the touchdown to Turpin. I agree,

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00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: that was definitely that was twins to motion for the

1102
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: for the trips and then to run him on the

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00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 2: on the nickel safety there and and you know.

1104
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 5: Dack, their a beautiful ball.

1105
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: Great to just you know, that's what Kurt brought up,

1106
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 2: motions and stuff like that. That's kind of every week

1107
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: the motions have gotten less and less and less, and

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00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: that's that's people. And Barry's you know, Barry's been a

1109
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: professional football player, so he knows this too. I mean,

1110
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: but you know, sometimes motion does affect you and sometimes

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00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: it just doesn't. And McCarthy's excuse and during the game

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00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: was he didn't feel like that it was doing anything

1113
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: to benefit his team. You know, motion wasn't doing anything

1114
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: to benefit him, and.

1115
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 5: So that's why.

1116
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: But there's some of the concerns that you know, Aaron

1117
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: Rodgers in Green Bay, they were very static team Rogers

1118
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: liked everything just set and then and you know, sometimes

1119
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: you when you're a play caller, you just you're so

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00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 2: used to doing things a certain way that you just

1121
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: don't I remember talking Andy Reid about it. Andy used

1122
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: to give up play call into Eric the Enemy at

1123
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: times during a game because Andy would get in a rut.

1124
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: You know, He's like, when start having thoughts about, well,

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00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 2: maybe my motion's not working well. Then Eric would start

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00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: calling plays and then he would start moving everybody around

1127
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 2: and and he's like WHOA motion's gonna affect these guys

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Speaker 2: a little bit today. So I think that you know,

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00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: as a play caller, you know when you do see things.

1130
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to be the Dolphins, the Rams

1131
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: or the forty nine ers and these teams that have

1132
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: eighty percent motion. But when you when you look at it,

1133
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: if you don't believe it's not going to affect him,

1134
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: I think you're in a little bit of trouble because

1135
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: I do think any kind of movement burial will tell

1136
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: you any kind of movement that affects the Cowboys defense.

1137
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: Look what Arizona did. Look any you know, look with

1138
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 2: these teams that run with that orbit, you know where

1139
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: they bring guys across and circle them around. Look at

1140
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: the touchdown, the eighteen yard touchdown that Dak had in

1141
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: the game the other day. It was motioned across that

1142
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: derwin James Widen and then it allowed him to run

1143
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 2: right in the gap. It was motion that got him Widen.

1144
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: So if you're telling me that motion doesn't affect people.

1145
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1146
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 2: Man, He's been coaching a long time this league. He's

1147
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 2: got a Super Bowl ring in Green Bay, So do I.

1148
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 5: You know that's how I look at it right now.

1149
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 7: Shanahan said, if you're not moving your quarterback, your offense

1150
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 7: is doomed.

1151
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it's I'm not gonna sit.

1152
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 5: I wish that.

1153
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: Like there's some teams you study that you just like, Wow,

1154
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: that's pretty cool what they just fun Yeah, well that's

1155
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 2: we talk about San Francisco. Their ability to motion McCaffrey

1156
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: out and then it bumps the corner. It bumps the

1157
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 2: corner to another guy, and it puts a linebacker on McCaffrey,

1158
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: and then you're now going, uh, okay, they did, and

1159
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: you know they've the Cowboys have the capability of doing

1160
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: stuff like that.

1161
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 5: We just don't see it nearly enough.

1162
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 4: Well, you see all the weapons and the underutilized weapons,

1163
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 4: because it's not like it's one of those too many

1164
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 4: mouths to feed sort of conversations where it's, oh, there's

1165
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: CD Lamb, but.

1166
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 6: There's also Brandon Cooks, but there's also Michael Gallop. Ceedee,

1167
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 6: Lamb is the only one being fed right now.

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00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 8: I think that is it.

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00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 4: That is all you've got from a weaponry standpoint. So

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, Kurt. I think motion. I'm with you, Brian,

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00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 4: I think motion.

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00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 5: That helps.

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00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 2: It's not the solve all be all in, but somethings.

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00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I, hey, there's some there's some creativity there.

1175
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 5: There's there's some.

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00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: It's just it doesn't seem like it's every single down

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00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: where you're just watching the tape and you're going, they

1178
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: got him on that one. They out schemed him on

1179
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: that one.

1180
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 6: Kurt one X factor on the Cowboys offense going into

1181
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 6: the back half of the season, an X factor, X factor.

1182
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,479
Speaker 6: Who's got to step up and play better.

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00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 7: I hope it's Cooks because they need that second receiver.

1184
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 7: And I'm not necessarily saying it's Cook's fault. I think

1185
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 7: going back again to a play calling situation, but they

1186
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 7: need a second receiver to step up. Hopefully that's Cooks.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's going to be Gallop. I wouldn't

1188
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 7: mind even seeing Tober giving a chance.

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Speaker 5: What do you think, Brian Tyler? I think Tyler beyotdish

1190
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 5: and I thought he was banged up.

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00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: He had the ankle injury and the problems that he

1192
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: was dealing with in training camp.

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Speaker 5: I thought he was still kind of dealing with that.

1194
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 5: You know, I'm kind of.

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00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: Hearing clean bill of health there, but there's been some

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00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: really rough games for him the center. When your center

1197
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,959
Speaker 2: is struggling, your offensive line will struggle. And I think

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Speaker 2: he's the one guy that i'd kind of say if

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Speaker 2: you could get him to play in at that once

1200
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: again that high level we saw it happened to him

1201
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: last year, second half of the year. Last year he

1202
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: was a much better player. But I need him to

1203
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: be better at center.

1204
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 8: Yeah. For me, I'm gonna go with Tony Pilott on

1205
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 8: this one.

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00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 9: And maybe it's because he hasn't had as many touches

1207
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 9: these past couple of games, but I would love to

1208
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 9: see him get more involved in the offense, whether that's

1209
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 9: in the passing game, the running game, whatever the case

1210
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 9: may be. I love the call that Mike McCarthy had.

1211
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 9: I think I was in the second half when they

1212
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 9: ran him on a wheel route off the sidelines. I mean,

1213
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 9: that was a beautiful play call. And he has that

1214
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 9: ability to mismatch against linebackers, mismatch against safeties. We've seen

1215
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 9: it time and time again. So hopefully we get to

1216
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 9: see more than Tony Pylot going forward.

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00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 6: I'll say Tyron Smith at the left tackles right because

1218
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 6: if he continues to struggle one.

1219
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 4: It may not be very much longer we'll see Tyron

1220
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 4: Smith in a Cowboys uniform.

1221
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 5: Not because of cut. I think Tyler Smith's ad better

1222
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 5: tackle myself. That's why. Because the future with a whisper,

1223
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 5: but kind of yelling at the same time, yelling at

1224
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 5: the same time.

1225
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 4: I think there's ways that Tyrone can be better in

1226
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 4: the second half.

1227
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 5: He's not done. He's got stuff left in the tank.

1228
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 6: He's just got to find he's got to find that technique.

1229
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 4: He's got to get comfortable back at that tackle spot

1230
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 4: and continue to do.

1231
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 9: You believe he's part of the best five that can

1232
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 9: going forward. You feel like he's one of the best five.

1233
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 6: When he plays at his best.

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00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 8: But you factors in there, health, all that is.

1235
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: I think they need I think I think Steele needs

1236
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 2: to play better too. They're all of them. They all

1237
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: take a turn. But your great offensive lineman on the

1238
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: sixty five plays, they have three or four bad plays

1239
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: a game. You just can't have eight bad plays again, correct, That's.

1240
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 5: What That's the whole thing.

1241
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: You have two or three bad plays, that's fine, but

1242
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: you can't have like I said, you can't have six

1243
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: to eight bad plays.

1244
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 5: He's still part of the best five.

1245
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 4: He is, He's still if you're telling me, it's either

1246
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 4: Chu my Doga or Tyron Smith at left tackle.

1247
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 5: Doga surprised the hell out dog play well but.

1248
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 4: Taking Tyron Smith until the very bitter end at that

1249
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 4: left hack.

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00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 8: Horse Twler at left and then the Doy'll go on

1251
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 8: the inside.

1252
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 5: Okay, we can make something.

1253
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 12: I don't know.

1254
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 5: We can talk about it. It's very church. You can

1255
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 5: catch him on the golf course.

1256
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 4: Ye, everybody out there at the golf course. Eighteen holes

1257
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 4: coming up in just a little bit, yes, sir. On Monday,

1258
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 4: we will break down the defense. I also want to

1259
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 4: give a state of the rookie class. Are we spoiled

1260
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 4: as Cowboys fans to the point where rookies have made

1261
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 4: a massive impact in the past, This year not so much.

1262
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about that a little bit on Monday,

1263
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 4: nine am Central Time when we come back here on

1264
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 4: talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: This was fun, gentlemen.

1266
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 8: Thank you.

1267
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 4: One more shuffle show to go, and we'll be back

1268
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 4: next week to get it all done. Enjoy the bye week, everybody, everybody,

1269
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 4: stay safe, watch some football.

1270
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Speaker 5: Over the weekend, and of course we'll be right.

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00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 4: Back at it after the weekend is over for Chris

1272
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Speaker 4: beaming the back, Barry Church, Kirt Daniels, Brian brought us.

1273
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 4: I'm Kyle Yoman, saying so long from the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you on Monday with more Talking Cowboys.

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