Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Welcome back. All the smoke coming to you from Dallas.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: We got somebody who is obviously a legend in the
Speaker 2: comedic space, but you know, someone we've been chasing down
Speaker 2: for a minute.
Speaker 4: I've been trying to talk to him for a while
Speaker 4: now because one of the funniest jokes told about me
Speaker 4: came from you.
Speaker 3: Know, I talked to him about it. Were gonna get that?
Speaker 2: Just went up and started swinging for no reason. Hey,
Speaker 2: welcome to the show, the legendary, said Danner. Taking appreciate you.
Speaker 2: So you got you got the travel buddy.
Speaker 3: Got right with you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, yeah, all right, brothers separated at birth man,
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, he said, you see right. Said what's going on, man,
Speaker 2: how's life? Any new projects you're working on right now?
Speaker 3: Man? Yeah, I got a lot of stuff popping. Man.
Speaker 1: I got like the seventh season of The Neighborhood that
Speaker 1: I'm on. So this show has been on CBS for
Speaker 1: seven seasons. Rare air for TV shows produce it sorr
Speaker 1: and and then I'm also producing the show for Tracy
Speaker 1: Morgan on Paramount Plus called Crutch that will come on
Speaker 1: in the spring. So really building my production company a
Speaker 1: lot a lot of TV shows. Got the show called
Speaker 1: Johnson that's on Hulu right now that we shop or
Speaker 1: Bounce that's in season four.
Speaker 3: So you know, just just steady, really growing at the
Speaker 3: production company.
Speaker 2: How long you been on the producer side.
Speaker 1: Very early on in my career, like you know, I
Speaker 1: started producing movie Johnson Family Vacation. Uh you know Cod
Speaker 1: named the Cleaner, all those movies and then and so
Speaker 1: then from television side, once I left, I did a
Speaker 1: show called Said the Heading Presents. It was like a
Speaker 1: sketch show before like Chappelle them and all that, and
Speaker 1: then and then soul Man with niece Nash and now
Speaker 1: The Neighborhood.
Speaker 3: So I wish you would have kept doing Said in
Speaker 3: Time of Presents. Me. That was one of my favorites
Speaker 3: right there. Man, You know it sketch sketch comedy characters
Speaker 3: and all that. It was dope. I had the chef
Speaker 3: Reverend and we had a bunch of little fun characters
Speaker 3: on there.
Speaker 1: But think about sketch comedy, man, you gotta be able
Speaker 1: to have the second season. Like a lot of times
Speaker 1: you just don't have that opportunity. We were on Fox
Speaker 1: that was early on and they had just got American
Speaker 1: Idol or something like that, and that show was out there.
Speaker 1: So then I showed just kind of Fell in the
Speaker 1: Shadows or something like that. They started putting it on
Speaker 1: like every night.
Speaker 2: So nearly forty years in the game at this point,
Speaker 2: what still drives you? What still clicks inside?
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I mean it was interesting. I
Speaker 3: think we was in here that was on the shirts.
Speaker 1: One man talk about like when you like a legend
Speaker 1: or something and you do it, it's still in you
Speaker 1: no matter what, Like you know, the idea of like
Speaker 1: being the best at it, Like that's not really the motiveation,
Speaker 1: but the fact is is that you know that you
Speaker 1: could do it at a high level, so you wake
Speaker 1: up really wanting to just do that part. Like you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm not here to compete with nobody, but I
Speaker 1: know that I know how to do this, So I
Speaker 1: just I just get up and enjoy that that aspect
Speaker 1: of entertaining, you know what I'm saying. So I love creating.
Speaker 1: I love putting people on. So you know, with with
Speaker 1: the with the ability of being being able to produce,
Speaker 1: I'm able to put on like a lot of comics
Speaker 1: as writers and get them get them some real money,
Speaker 1: Like you know, like you can be a stand up
Speaker 1: and be great, but if I show you, you'll be like, well,
Speaker 1: thank you sir, Like I bought a house, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, so we've been able to do
Speaker 1: those kinds of things, and that's the thing I really
Speaker 1: really start to enjoy the most at this stage of
Speaker 1: my career.
Speaker 3: And at the same time, man, I still like to
Speaker 3: go on stage.
Speaker 1: I got a residency in Vegas with Tony Braxton and
Speaker 1: we do that at the Cosmo. So I'm able to
Speaker 1: get up on stage and steal rock, you know, and
Speaker 1: entertain at a big high level.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then and then and at the same time do
Speaker 3: the TV shows.
Speaker 1: So that's what I love, man, Just the idea like
Speaker 1: waking up, being creative and just being a part of
Speaker 1: the the whole circle of life of what's going on,
Speaker 1: anything that's popping up.
Speaker 3: Hyb yeah, yb. Yeah, Like I'm like, all right, what's
Speaker 3: what's up?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: TV showing this? Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I love your versatility though, from where you
Speaker 2: started to where you're at now. Yeah, when did when
Speaker 2: did you know in the comic space that you would
Speaker 2: kind of not only made it, but you had the
Speaker 2: ability to cross over and start doing more than just
Speaker 2: stand up man.
Speaker 1: It probably had to go back to the butt light
Speaker 1: commercials like you know. So it was interesting back in
Speaker 1: I guess this early late late ninety early two thousands
Speaker 1: was I was trying to do but but wise. It
Speaker 1: was headquartered in Saint Louis. I was trying to get
Speaker 1: some money to just do a tour like with some people.
Speaker 1: I saw somebody, a country singer with a tour bus
Speaker 1: with his face wrapped on it.
Speaker 3: That's all I wanted. So I was like, we go
Speaker 3: to bud Lights, see if they'll do this bud light
Speaker 3: to it so I could have a tool bust with
Speaker 3: my face on it. And then they did that.
Speaker 1: They did that and then offered me the commercials, and
Speaker 1: so I did a Super Bowl commercial to one where
Speaker 1: I shake up the beers.
Speaker 3: And and it won. It won, like the super Bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a long time ago, but it won.
Speaker 1: And then you crossed you you know, you wake up
Speaker 1: the next day and it's like you're walking through the
Speaker 1: airport and a whole nother fan base like your.
Speaker 3: Boy and shake up mirrors. Ain't you I tell you
Speaker 3: what you get just shakeing them? Goddamn like what's your name?
Speaker 3: But you realize it's a whole new fan base.
Speaker 1: And so that's when that's when you kind of you know,
Speaker 1: because you know, we take great pride like I, you know,
Speaker 1: I was the host of Comic View, So I became
Speaker 1: black famous before I was you know famous with other
Speaker 1: people like you the in the hood.
Speaker 3: Because I was the host of Comic View and I
Speaker 3: was on every night.
Speaker 1: Even in Hollywood standards, I was way more famous, you know,
Speaker 1: like in the like Dallas, down here, Houston than anybody
Speaker 1: would me out there before before I hit. So so
Speaker 1: I would go in meetings and you know, people wouldn't
Speaker 1: know who I was at all, and you know, but
Speaker 1: I came with this kind of like you know, this
Speaker 1: kind of sense of grandeur from the assistance and.
Speaker 3: The secretary of everybody, like why he's so excited to
Speaker 3: see you? That was like early day.
Speaker 1: They'd been like before, like how people are about YouTube
Speaker 1: stars now, like you know, you know, as adults were
Speaker 1: like I don't know who that person is, no, you know,
Speaker 1: but if you know, you're like, yeah, that.
Speaker 3: One he owns something right now. So that's what it was.
Speaker 1: So I think that you know, from there, I recognized
Speaker 1: it and then it just kind of just kept staying
Speaker 1: on my hustle like that. Always kind of also been
Speaker 1: very outside of business. You know, me and my partner
Speaker 1: Eric Eric Grohen, we've been together like my whole career
Speaker 1: of forty years, and we don't really we got you know,
Speaker 1: we kind of operate in the agency situation, but we
Speaker 1: never really like tried to be like in the inner
Speaker 1: circles of people and just kind of like walk around.
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying this, I wasn't at no Diddy parties.
Speaker 3: One party, guys, just one. I mean my lawyer's dealing
Speaker 3: with that. Yeah, one time.
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say, always get around and trying
Speaker 1: to get yourself out of this shit.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I know you're gonna see the picture, but no,
Speaker 3: that was at a church convention. Yeah, I was only
Speaker 3: there for twenty minutes.
Speaker 4: Was there any moment in your career where you felt
Speaker 4: like you wasn't reaching your potential, you was a failure
Speaker 4: and you almost gave up?
Speaker 3: Man? I mean, you know it's had like shake back.
Speaker 1: You know, Hollywood is a place where it is ebbs
Speaker 1: and flows to it in in a you know, in
Speaker 1: a real way where you hot, everything popping and h
Speaker 1: let me see, I did, like I did, like a
Speaker 1: couple of movies that I was really you know, I
Speaker 1: had ambition for and then you know, many circumstances, for
Speaker 1: different reasons, they didn't pop, right, the movies that rop
Speaker 1: and then you drop, you know, you lose your you
Speaker 1: lose the cachet and yeah, and it was gone and
Speaker 1: it was like some shit where you're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how to get it back, and you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it just feel like Hollywood they check it for you.
Speaker 1: You just have to learn how to Luckily, you know,
Speaker 1: I always say for stand ups, that's how really our
Speaker 1: saving grace, the fact that we can go on the stage,
Speaker 1: go around anywhere in the country, around the world, and
Speaker 1: still make a living, like we don't have to depend on,
Speaker 1: you know, the business.
Speaker 3: So that was really the saving grace.
Speaker 1: But when you when you kind of hot, you got
Speaker 1: that it factor and then you not like getting the calls,
Speaker 1: that's a really that's a hard space to you know,
Speaker 1: to kind of live in as a young person. So luckily,
Speaker 1: I even feel like my career started a little late though,
Speaker 1: Like I went to college, I had graduated. I didn't
Speaker 1: even really start doing coin it till I was like
Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty eight, which was kind of later late
Speaker 1: for people, you know, and then I popped, you know,
Speaker 1: in my thirties and so so I was a little
Speaker 1: mature for it and had worked.
Speaker 3: In corporate, so it didn't scare me.
Speaker 1: Scare me, but I definitely was shook that, you know,
Speaker 1: what was once like this super fun private jet life
Speaker 1: was back to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up? You know? Think that's me too. I'm
Speaker 3: too b I used to. I used to be an
Speaker 3: all jet life you know change you all right good,
Speaker 3: you realize you're good, You're back to jet life. I've
Speaker 3: been on a couple of.
Speaker 2: Ad been on a couple of inventions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, jet life all right back.
Speaker 1: But that that is one of those things I always
Speaker 1: tell young young people that too. You just got to
Speaker 1: enjoy the ride more than anything, like because it is
Speaker 1: an ab and flow to any you know, any business
Speaker 1: when you hot, and you know, you definitely feel like
Speaker 1: this always your spot and you try to like, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of respect that.
Speaker 3: But then the littlest thing can change.
Speaker 1: And so like these movies didn't hit like like I
Speaker 1: thought they was, and that was it, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: you like, damn, so you fight, you pivot, you fight,
Speaker 1: I pivot. That's when I changed the television and it's
Speaker 1: been really a great saving grace. So you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of times you don't have that with TV. You
Speaker 1: don't get if you're not on the IT show like
Speaker 1: you know whatever, you know, fifty producer or whatever, these
Speaker 1: kind of it shows. But you know, my show been
Speaker 1: on seven seats, like it might not be everybody cup
Speaker 1: of tea, but it's CBS top networking world in the
Speaker 1: in the checks reflect that. So god, damn right, I
Speaker 1: don't really care if you don't watch. Yeah, actually, ground
Speaker 1: about me. I bet you nana know.
Speaker 3: Who I am. I'm good with that. Hey you doing
Speaker 3: missus Johnson?
Speaker 4: How is it working with Toshina that she that's my sister,
Speaker 4: that's my little sister acting. Who is I don't know
Speaker 4: who ste is either, she called me, I don't know everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she literally one of the greatest you know,
Speaker 1: you know, African American female comedians actors that we have,
Speaker 1: Like when you think about every show Tea ever been
Speaker 1: on Pop, she killed it pop. Yeah, and she's like
Speaker 1: she's such a pro and we she was such a
Speaker 1: you know, a lucky gift for me because like we
Speaker 1: was getting ready cast somebody else and they told me
Speaker 1: she wasn't available, and some reason, you know, just kind
Speaker 1: of waited like one more two more days or something,
Speaker 1: and on random like her people called me, was like,
Speaker 1: you you're still looking for a wife for your show.
Speaker 1: I was like, is she available? I was like, you
Speaker 1: don't even have to come in this dones I called him.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, she that's who I want.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 1: Don't even worry about it. But she is literally one
Speaker 1: of the greatest fun you know. Shoot, I told her
Speaker 1: she'll get show. Really like, she really stylish. Man, Like
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like, don't know that she
Speaker 1: be fly because she just always be on TV most
Speaker 1: of the time you see it. But she's one of
Speaker 1: the most stylish people in the business and just a
Speaker 1: great person, great human being.
Speaker 3: Man. So it's been a blessing to have her around. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: did you ever sacrifice the bag for authenticity a couple
Speaker 3: of times?
Speaker 1: You know, Probably one of the greatest ones I would
Speaker 1: say would have been for a barbershop. Was the first
Speaker 1: barbershop I had an opportunity. Again, I was in the
Speaker 1: Hey they had opportunity to do a bigger movie with
Speaker 1: a bigger check to it, and and then but the
Speaker 1: character in Barbershop was somebody that I knew saw felt
Speaker 1: like this message needed to be said, like and actually
Speaker 1: playing that old man was a character choice, Like it
Speaker 1: was so many things that that movie, like you know,
Speaker 1: to your point where I like, I went for the
Speaker 1: authenticity over the other choice because it was more more
Speaker 1: money offered. That role was a small role at first.
Speaker 1: It definitely didn't have to save money on it. Nobody
Speaker 1: wanted me to be the old man, and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I know this character. I know exactly who he is.
Speaker 1: And so it was like one of the opportunity and
Speaker 1: it changed my life like that that movie went from
Speaker 1: the first Barbershop went from you know, like a you know,
Speaker 1: four digit number two. By the time they did too,
Speaker 1: it was like seven seven did It was like a
Speaker 1: whole move, Like it was like, damn, just by.
Speaker 3: Just by making that pick, it changed to everything.
Speaker 1: And so I really appreciated that kind of choice at
Speaker 1: the time, not knowing that's what it was, but the
Speaker 1: fact that I had the kind of integrity at that
Speaker 1: moment in my life that's a hindsight kind of thing
Speaker 1: right where you go like, damn, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I was thinking like that, but I do know that
Speaker 1: I much.
Speaker 3: Rather had done that movie than the big movie.
Speaker 1: Like I was just like, now I'm gonna make this choice,
Speaker 1: and I remember my agents and everybody like, come on,
Speaker 1: come on, this is a blockbuster im Like, I don't
Speaker 1: see it. When you read it, You're like, I don't it,
Speaker 1: don't feel it, don't feel real, like.
Speaker 3: I don't like this. Hey, I'm Ley Le Brown. Nice
Speaker 3: to meet you. Low blow. That's right. Yeah, did you
Speaker 3: did you add the the the pool thing when you
Speaker 3: stepping in the pool?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that wasn't in the script. Oh yeah, Joseph, Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah that was funny because no no, no.
Speaker 4: No, no no, when you outside argum with Queen Latifa.
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah Barbita too, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Is there m J Kobe Lebron comedy? M J Kobe
Speaker 3: or Lebron? You know who are those comedians in NBA terms?
Speaker 1: Well, definitely, you know, I mean you gotta you know,
Speaker 1: it's always those top dogs, like I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: depending on the area that you grew up in. But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm an Eddie Murphy guy, like we come
Speaker 1: from that whole Eddie Murphy. Now, I definitely consider Richard
Speaker 1: prior with the King, but he also was a little
Speaker 1: bit for me that age before Eddie Murphy was the
Speaker 1: guy that you identify with like more like this.
Speaker 3: I got right right, and then you know, then it's
Speaker 3: Martin Uh, you know, and then.
Speaker 1: Chappelle like he's improved to be just as solid as
Speaker 1: they come, like consistently as solid and so.
Speaker 3: Then and then there's then then there's a bunch of
Speaker 3: guys that you love. After that point, there's just like
Speaker 3: you know, you got your matter of taste.
Speaker 1: But you know, but Robin Williams, it's so many people
Speaker 1: that I would throw in there, Like these guys they
Speaker 1: the goat ghosts, you know that that can they can
Speaker 1: go get a joke, They can give you crazy thought,
Speaker 1: you know, George Carlin, you know these guys, they just
Speaker 1: give you the way they presented a joke.
Speaker 3: You're like, all right, them them some of the best
Speaker 3: they've ever done.
Speaker 4: They're like for real, for real. So but I saw
Speaker 4: a different side of Robin Uh. I watched the old
Speaker 4: Richard Fowl ROAs h Yeah, six bro. They are brutal
Speaker 4: with how they talk to each other. They throwing all
Speaker 4: their business out there like that was brutal. Yeah, what
Speaker 4: they was saying, know they them roads right then, tol
Speaker 4: Paul Mooney.
Speaker 3: Miss thing and they say everybody on the stage knows it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just crazy.
Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, it would be that kind of humor
Speaker 1: right now. But he was like fun while and they did.
Speaker 1: They hung out together and was wilding out. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: types of energy that would come out on the on
Speaker 1: the stage like that, I'd imagine. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: comedy is one of the things very subjective because you know,
Speaker 1: like they'll do the like top fifty lists. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: y'all ever be like you know, because they'll do like
Speaker 1: lists or whatever, and you're always trying to see if
Speaker 1: you own it.
Speaker 3: This bullshit? Yeah, make this ship. Yeah, you be trying
Speaker 3: to act like you ain't talking about yourself. You got
Speaker 3: shunky ducky on, act like you ain't talking about yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna have a list, you know, doing each
Speaker 4: other jo say that after every joke, shuck it, nugget.
Speaker 3: From here. We started to get the same time, shut
Speaker 3: from here. Bring your ass back up. God damn shuck it.
Speaker 1: Why talk about Red Fox one of my favorite Red
Speaker 1: Fox again Man, one of these guys, you know, for
Speaker 1: me coming from Saint Louis, he always was branded as
Speaker 1: being the Saint Louis guy. So that was also one
Speaker 1: of the people that you know, when you come out
Speaker 1: of the city like that and then make it you
Speaker 1: always wanted to be, you know, you want to have
Speaker 1: that Red Fox day again Man sad for his son
Speaker 1: probably the most where I knew him from, you know,
Speaker 1: and then you would hear the albums when I was younger.
Speaker 1: But you know, cutting edge, stylish. That's what I used
Speaker 1: to love about Red Fox more. He was different than
Speaker 1: his sad for his son character, Like on stage, That's
Speaker 1: what I always loved.
Speaker 3: That's the thing I try to emulate. He was waly,
Speaker 3: wouldn't know junk yard drip.
Speaker 1: He had the drill and the velvet jacket, you know,
Speaker 1: and we get them.
Speaker 3: With the orange, with the orange and red tint.
Speaker 2: That's what he got to find it very.
Speaker 3: He had big words too.
Speaker 1: He's kind of like early finding very, you know, precautious,
Speaker 1: have all these big ass words.
Speaker 3: He would use the ship boys.
Speaker 4: People don't know if you watch, if you watch the
Speaker 4: show samplersn he was really activist because a lot of
Speaker 4: stuff he was saying in that show, like he was
Speaker 4: talking about what was going on and speaking up on
Speaker 4: black issues, but.
Speaker 3: He was making them as jokes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but in the end, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: the end of the show, it all come all come
Speaker 4: back to all serious.
Speaker 3: And he did that a lot in the show. Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: he was. He was.
Speaker 1: He was like that as a personality to no nonsense.
Speaker 1: When he came to the business side, it was it
Speaker 1: was unfortunate, like when you kind of find out like
Speaker 1: he didn't really like pass with that royalty, like with
Speaker 1: the money that he had, because he did stand up
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, like you know, and how
Speaker 1: to get people paid.
Speaker 3: Even remember the story about to get the guy from
Speaker 3: Karate Kid, Pat Burridy. You want to check. You brought
Speaker 3: him a nice check and helped him out. At one
Speaker 3: time that type of person that Red.
Speaker 1: Fox was, Yeah, and he would do that like getting
Speaker 1: like makeup artists paid and are people that like especially
Speaker 1: for black shows. These people weren't even allowed him in
Speaker 1: unions and at the time and Red would be like,
Speaker 1: we ain't doing nothing if they ain't getting the same
Speaker 1: union money all that stuff. So that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: you know, you wish like those kind of credentials led
Speaker 1: to walking out, walking out the game on some raw
Speaker 1: T shirt. You know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, that exactly.
Speaker 1: Dick Gregory another another one.
Speaker 3: Gregory.
Speaker 1: So mat You're just funny though, because he like a
Speaker 1: guy that's like, you know you have been around Dick Gregory,
Speaker 1: like he had a lot of conspiracies, like he know
Speaker 1: a lot of information, Like so he knows so much information.
Speaker 1: But he was like again, another dynamic personality that like
Speaker 1: led talk. But every time you saw him, You're not
Speaker 1: getting ready to get away with Dick Gregory with no
Speaker 1: small conversation.
Speaker 3: It ain't gonna be there you doing, Dick, how I'm doing?
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 1: Think about the whole think about the whole trajectory and
Speaker 1: the financial student stocker walking at this time, you like,
Speaker 1: my man, I got to but he would he can
Speaker 1: go on and on. But you know he was mad
Speaker 1: at me on the Barbershop movie. Know that was the
Speaker 1: only time he was like d L hughlet got this
Speaker 1: one thing about because he's like nobody really ever talked
Speaker 1: bad about you said but then there's a thing on
Speaker 1: the internet with Dick Gray was mad at me about
Speaker 1: the barbershop.
Speaker 3: He was like that saying that.
Speaker 1: I was like, but I think that just was the
Speaker 1: moment he was in because he didn't like the he
Speaker 1: didn't like the wartin Luther King joke, and he didn't like.
Speaker 3: He ain't like none of that ship. He didn't like
Speaker 3: the Rosa Parks part. He was mad about all man, So.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about these people.
Speaker 3: I was like, a character, Man, that's not me. The
Speaker 3: character said, didn't say that, bro. He was mad at
Speaker 3: you know. That was the only thing. So it was like, dah,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh man, I love this. I ain't
Speaker 3: nobody didn't like your man.
Speaker 2: Obviously, comedy has changed drastically over the years, and we
Speaker 2: had to discussion with Kevin Hart how he said some
Speaker 2: of the you know, the eddies and some of those
Speaker 2: guys from back then probably couldn't survive because of the
Speaker 2: way they presented in the types of jokes. They told how,
Speaker 2: first of all, what do you think about that? And
Speaker 2: how has your stand up changed over the years with
Speaker 2: the increased sensitivity around whatever you say?
Speaker 3: You know, I think it's a lot like music though,
Speaker 3: I think that people really just adapt.
Speaker 1: To the circumstance that's in front of him and me.
Speaker 1: As an entertainer, you're gonna do what you know wherever
Speaker 1: the status quo is. I think that you know anything
Speaker 1: that's publicly acceptable, and you know where the lines are,
Speaker 1: you decide where you're gonna do. And people who are
Speaker 1: really good at being on the edge, say somebody like Chappelle,
Speaker 1: like that can be you know, controversial and still be
Speaker 1: for the masses, you know what I mean, Like you know,
Speaker 1: those those people know how.
Speaker 3: To find the line of what it is that you do.
Speaker 3: And you're gonna have a.
Speaker 1: Group of people that's gonna be, you know, totally against that.
Speaker 1: But I think that as a as an orator any type, right.
Speaker 3: You gotta y'all do that.
Speaker 1: You take these chances when you on the show like
Speaker 1: this and you wake up every day, you gotta speak what's.
Speaker 3: On your mind.
Speaker 1: You take the chance on not knowing where that one
Speaker 1: little group of people that's gonna be like, ah, you
Speaker 1: said that, and you be like, well, I ain't say
Speaker 1: it like that. You're putting a lot on that, you know,
Speaker 1: So as a stand up you gotta kind of trust
Speaker 1: that part like you know, if you're going to go out,
Speaker 1: which is unfortunate, like cause you know, people be bringing
Speaker 1: the phones in.
Speaker 3: And we definitely, we definitely work in a like a
Speaker 3: free flowing kind of business.
Speaker 1: Like when you writing a joke, it's not the joke,
Speaker 1: Like it's not the joke that you you know that
Speaker 1: you're gonna finally deliver if you allow me to get
Speaker 1: to it, Like I might have a kernel of an
Speaker 1: idea that I might try somewhere and if you if
Speaker 1: you hear it at this stage, it might sound you know, it.
Speaker 3: Was ain't aphobic or you know, misogynistic, but.
Speaker 1: I ain't quite got what I was trying to say yet.
Speaker 1: Let me give me me fo times on stage and
Speaker 1: let me get this jont right. But if you taping
Speaker 1: it and you put it out there the first day
Speaker 1: I tried it and it come out wrong, now, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's what I really, you know, really don't necessarily
Speaker 1: like about that part of the business. But what I've
Speaker 1: learned is, you know, my mother was a school teacher,
Speaker 1: and so when I first started, I used to actually
Speaker 1: be kind of branded as a clean comedian, like people
Speaker 1: didn't think I cursed at all, Like and I still
Speaker 1: actually carry that like I carry uh you know, if
Speaker 1: you think about my image, it don't seem like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm you know, vulgar vulgar, right, And it's because of that,
Speaker 1: Like it's because like my mother basically put in me,
Speaker 1: like you don't have to say it, then don't. But
Speaker 1: if I need to, then say it, right. So that's
Speaker 1: what I remember, like just kind of trusting that. So
Speaker 1: if I don't have to go up there and insult
Speaker 1: nobody to tell a joke, then't why do it, like,
Speaker 1: you know, but if if I feel like I got
Speaker 1: to say it, then say it then, you know, and
Speaker 1: be glad to be what it is and and go
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 3: So that's what I really trust about it.
Speaker 1: So I've never really been one to feel like the
Speaker 1: cancel culture of it all, you know, in a way
Speaker 1: applied to me. So I just because I've always been,
Speaker 1: you know, like kind of a citizen of the world,
Speaker 1: and comedy when I go on stage is literally not
Speaker 1: about me up here trying to you know, offend nobody.
Speaker 3: Have you ever met somebody from the cancel culture and
Speaker 3: the cancel culture? Who are the who is that? Oh man? Yeah,
Speaker 3: people that look like Jim. Yeah, a lot of jobs.
Speaker 2: He's so close to us, man, what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's not right. Come on, I'll just get some week
Speaker 3: from later on. Yeah, you know what I did. I
Speaker 3: had that. I had this happened one time.
Speaker 1: I remember I used to have this whole joke of
Speaker 1: you know, damn, I don't even know about say that
Speaker 1: ship now because it's super casl culture now, you know.
Speaker 1: But it was it was kind of like it was
Speaker 1: early on and I was just talking about you know,
Speaker 1: it was a joke I used to have about the
Speaker 1: gay Jean. I was like, it ain't no gay Jean
Speaker 1: because it'd have to be in animals too, like because
Speaker 1: people were like, I was born this way, my special.
Speaker 1: I was like, that means you got you gotta you know,
Speaker 1: it's a gay kangaroo, like hopping around like what's in
Speaker 1: my pockets?
Speaker 3: Gay cow somewhere, moove, gay duck, aflat big and so there.
Speaker 3: So and I did that. There was a gay couple there, ladies.
Speaker 3: It was a did the joke. It was a gay
Speaker 3: couple there. They were ladies, and I mean they couldn't
Speaker 3: wait till I got off stage. They was in my
Speaker 3: young now you know, I was like you joke, you know.
Speaker 1: And that was the first time I ever had to
Speaker 1: deal with someone like just really adamant and mad about it.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, you know, let me do
Speaker 1: some research. Maybe there's a gay duck out there. Gotta
Speaker 1: go out here and talk to the gay duck and
Speaker 1: be like I didn't.
Speaker 3: Well you're well, you're paddling under their water. Know that
Speaker 3: it's different for you.
Speaker 2: Have you had any outside of that, like, you know,
Speaker 2: there was a there was a while where people were
Speaker 2: running up on stage and dressing comics. I was at
Speaker 2: the one actually at the Hollywood Bowl with who was
Speaker 2: it was? It was it Dave Chappelle. Ran got his
Speaker 2: asked were you there?
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't a dog.
Speaker 2: They beat the ship out of that dude broke his
Speaker 2: arm and everything beat the dog ship. That's a good one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: crazy fan interactions or off the stage early in your days.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. And I had had a couple of nights,
Speaker 3: not necessarily booed.
Speaker 1: Off, but I definitely had some nights where it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you scraped up, you know, defin we're
Speaker 1: gonna need some real spoiling.
Speaker 3: Oh, you know, like you walk up this day, like.
Speaker 2: That very good game tonight.
Speaker 3: Shit, might want to get that job at Jiffy Loose,
Speaker 3: like what you need a thirty way certain God damn. So.
Speaker 3: But I remember, like earlier in my career, like I
Speaker 3: was hot, Like I was in Saint Louis and I
Speaker 3: was hot.
Speaker 1: I had it popping out. So I tried to do
Speaker 1: me a night and I did a night and you know,
Speaker 1: so I was charging people twenty dollars to come see me.
Speaker 1: You know, we packed joining out and I walked on
Speaker 1: stage and just thunk up the place.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I mean whatever whenever I'm saying was not working. So
Speaker 1: then it's like one of these moments were you're like, damn,
Speaker 1: you know this this not going well, like in the middle.
Speaker 3: Of it, like fuck, like you know. And the thing
Speaker 3: about stand up is you the mic and the people,
Speaker 3: you know, we get, yeah, we get. Give us some
Speaker 3: good time, man, ki kick some love.
Speaker 2: Ain't no time out?
Speaker 3: Yeah what up?
Speaker 1: So I had to offer the people. They running back,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, you know, like it's love. You know,
Speaker 1: it's the crill, like you know, anybody want their money back?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I appreciate y'all, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just one of them things, you know, they lined up.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, there's three of us, like line they.
Speaker 1: Lined they lined up when they little loop back. So
Speaker 1: that was a hard one right there, for sure, you know.
Speaker 1: But definitely, you know, it's that that challenge of getting
Speaker 1: and knowing that you're the only person up there on
Speaker 1: the stage trying to make it happen at that time.
Speaker 1: And if you lose them, it's like trying to like
Speaker 1: like what's what's like like a bunch of horses, like
Speaker 1: you got you gotta you gotta hold them all, like
Speaker 1: eight nine horses. That's what a crowd is like that,
Speaker 1: like just because people one of them go this way
Speaker 1: is over. So this that kind of thing, you know.
Speaker 1: So and that's a very tough thing to do in
Speaker 1: this business. And then you know you have shows like
Speaker 1: Kings of Comedy when you're going up and this dog
Speaker 1: got the dog like you know, somebody go up there
Speaker 1: and they just boom Bernie killing them ship. You know
Speaker 1: in the movie Bernie Go Last, but in real life,
Speaker 1: Bernie lad in the middle. In the middle he always
Speaker 1: wanted to be called a da hammock. He didn't really
Speaker 1: want to go last, So you know, you have to
Speaker 1: go up nights after.
Speaker 3: You get hit the stage.
Speaker 2: Let's jump to that. And we were we were we
Speaker 2: were gonna get to that a little later. But talk
Speaker 2: to us about that. I mean that King's of Comedy
Speaker 2: kind of set it off and set the tone for touring.
Speaker 2: But obviously we know, being hoopers and traveling and being
Speaker 2: with your dogs all the time, like most of the
Speaker 2: time off the stage is the funniest shit, fucking around,
Speaker 2: playing cards, drinking, just talking shit. What were those what
Speaker 2: was that tour like? And how'd that come together?
Speaker 3: That came together? It was a guy.
Speaker 1: There was a guy that was doing a tour with everybody.
Speaker 1: He used to do was all individual as kid walked
Speaker 1: to Latham. So he used to do me and DL
Speaker 1: because we had both host a comic view. So we
Speaker 1: had a tour that we would go out. Then he
Speaker 1: did Steve individually, did Bertie and then and then he
Speaker 1: had the idea of doing the Super Show like basically
Speaker 1: where everybody all together and we do arenas and you know,
Speaker 1: other than like some one offs like Eddie had done
Speaker 1: an arena tour.
Speaker 3: I think Andrew, Dice, Clay.
Speaker 1: And Martin who was the only people that had done
Speaker 1: Arenas as a comic. So so when he put this
Speaker 1: tour together, it was like just like like a superfest night,
Speaker 1: Like it felt like, you know, all your favorites coming
Speaker 1: at once, and so it was just a crazy phenomenon.
Speaker 3: At the time. Like so you're right, man, we had
Speaker 3: the blast.
Speaker 1: Man, it's like you know, and I was like the
Speaker 1: young one on the tour at that time without and
Speaker 1: I wasn't married when we first he was.
Speaker 3: Acting man, hold up, streaks stopped, you had to stop.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's crazy. So yeah, that's wild. But we
Speaker 3: have yeah.
Speaker 2: Vegas they said that gummy just kicking.
Speaker 3: Vegas ship dog.
Speaker 1: But I remember, like probably you know, one of my
Speaker 1: first times, like Bertie used to come in, come in
Speaker 1: my dressing room.
Speaker 3: Like again, like I said, I was a young dude,
Speaker 3: so I would have I would.
Speaker 1: Have like the drinks and smoke and the girls and
Speaker 1: in my room be packed like every time, like I
Speaker 1: go and get everybody, like come in my room. And
Speaker 1: Bertie came to my room and a couple of times
Speaker 1: but he would do a show, like he would come
Speaker 1: in and just start talking and doing jokes and ripping
Speaker 1: it dogs. So you know, my room we ended up
Speaker 1: being this kind of like famous after party room. So
Speaker 1: you know, so we had had many epics on you know,
Speaker 1: he forty coming there. One night, I remember Jamie Fox
Speaker 1: and Chris Rock showed up in New York. Like it
Speaker 1: was just you're writing, We're just sitting in the back,
Speaker 1: and it's that that that that camaraderie that's just like
Speaker 1: flowing and just epic energy and everybody.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you would rather hear that than national comments.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, because right, this is something that
Speaker 1: happening outside that room, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't even yeah, you can't even explain somebody. You
Speaker 1: try to tell somebody what happened, they be like, yea.
Speaker 3: Be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk to us about the great Bernie mac rest
Speaker 2: in peace. Incredible comment obviously one of your brothers. But
Speaker 2: talk to us about just what he was about his aura.
Speaker 2: I felt like he had. I never met him, felt
Speaker 2: like he had an aura.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know, b Mack was like really, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know that that Chicago dude like
Speaker 1: like like kind of like you're envision them if anybody
Speaker 1: know them, like a man's man kind of dude.
Speaker 3: But all so always kind of like solid in his skin.
Speaker 3: Like he would always had these catch phrases or walk along,
Speaker 3: you know, I want to fit the yard line, but
Speaker 3: it's first in gold. He had a lot of un
Speaker 3: He would just do that and be like all right, okay.
Speaker 3: But he was like one of those kind of He
Speaker 3: was just one of those kind of dudes. And but
Speaker 3: you know, I remember, like you know, like it was.
Speaker 1: It used to be this thing called the Miller Genuine
Speaker 1: Drive in Chicago and now came from Saint Louis, so
Speaker 1: you had to y'all would drive up to Chicago to
Speaker 1: be a part of it. And so the first time
Speaker 1: I met him was there. He saw him and he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you are right, You're all right, you
Speaker 1: can be all right. So then when I saw him
Speaker 1: in New York the first time I was doing deaf comedy.
Speaker 3: Jam, I was nervous.
Speaker 1: I just remember New York was one of the places
Speaker 1: you know when they tell you, like dad, they'll like
Speaker 1: your ass up.
Speaker 3: Ain't good.
Speaker 1: Well and Bernie, but this was his second time doing it,
Speaker 1: and this is the when he did that famous I
Speaker 1: Ain't scared of you, motherfucker show.
Speaker 3: But he was telling me.
Speaker 1: We went to lunch that day, and he was just
Speaker 1: telling me like, man, don't be don't let them challenge you.
Speaker 1: You know, you know who you are, Like, go ahead,
Speaker 1: just be yourself, go be be great. Don't let them try.
Speaker 1: They kind of shook me the first time I was
Speaker 1: up here, so said, I'm gonna let you know, I
Speaker 1: ain't scared.
Speaker 3: Of him, like you know.
Speaker 1: And then it was supposed to be like one little statement,
Speaker 1: and he literally turned it into the most famous eight
Speaker 1: minutes of comedy.
Speaker 3: Like I was like, that's how you do it, right there.
Speaker 2: I ain't scared of you, motherfuckers, big NBA fan. Yeah,
Speaker 2: where's your passion for basketball?
Speaker 3: Car?
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting too because growing up in Saint Louis,
Speaker 1: we never had a basketball team. We didn't have a team,
Speaker 1: but you know, of course, you know that was that
Speaker 1: was the sport everybody played like in the hood, like
Speaker 1: you know, and I played like junior high school, high school.
Speaker 1: I never really got you know, like got got tall enough,
Speaker 1: and you know, like and and I was. I was
Speaker 1: raised in a single parent household, and I don't think
Speaker 1: I really had to discipline to.
Speaker 3: Like stay in sports like that.
Speaker 1: My mother was just like, you know, like she could
Speaker 1: rather come get me and go with her as opposed
Speaker 1: to stay at practice and all that. So I never
Speaker 1: really liked it. But I was a pretty decent athlete though,
Speaker 1: so so I loved the game from there. And then
Speaker 1: of course, you know in the heyday when when m
Speaker 1: Jden was playing, you know, the great eighties Bulls teams,
Speaker 1: Saint Louis was our Vegas. It was the quick southwest
Speaker 1: flight you could pop up going for the weekend kick here,
Speaker 1: you know, So we would do that, and me and
Speaker 1: my boys, like, you know, we get our little money together,
Speaker 1: get a little van or something. We go to Chicago
Speaker 1: for the weekend, come out, go to the game. So
Speaker 1: I ended up being a big Bulls fan doing that run.
Speaker 1: And then of course my family is all Laker fans.
Speaker 1: I only all my even my Missouri family so many,
Speaker 1: so we came out here then, you know, once I
Speaker 1: moved out here, then it was just like easy transition
Speaker 1: become a Lakers fan, like just because they was the
Speaker 1: team close.
Speaker 3: And then I'm with court Sirae a lot. So I'm
Speaker 3: just out there. I like that name. Of course, baby,
Speaker 3: you gotta pull up.
Speaker 2: We got a clip right here. Let's watch this clip
Speaker 2: real quick.
Speaker 3: N b A is fantastic trip.
Speaker 5: You know, it all started because the little melee that happened,
Speaker 5: and you know in Detroit last year, everybody remember the
Speaker 5: big melee that ron I tes lost. It ran up
Speaker 5: in the audience and people thought that was wrong. Me personally,
Speaker 5: I loved it.
Speaker 3: You know. I'm a cheer leader for coolishness like that.
Speaker 3: You know, I like Noah Sense especially, and that was
Speaker 3: my favorite dude because he ain't had nothing to do
Speaker 3: with the fight.
Speaker 6: Fight over there, get him a hit in. He just
Speaker 6: looked and saw the fight. He didn't think nobody saw him. Like, dude,
Speaker 6: there's one hundred cameras in here.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: They showed it back to we saw you, We saw you.
Speaker 1: You know ship That's how that's a little too Steve
Speaker 1: that as you was wilding out.
Speaker 3: And when I saw that, man, I was crying. That's
Speaker 3: so funny. I was crying.
Speaker 2: They have to take away from some of the pains
Speaker 2: and that money was Oh yeah, motherfucker, at least respect me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's funny because because both of y'all like god
Speaker 3: like real dude.
Speaker 1: Images as far as like tough guy in it like,
Speaker 1: and the both of y'all have that thing like people
Speaker 1: respect y'all and dog boss basketball players like real go
Speaker 1: get us. But I remember, like it's something to have
Speaker 1: that kind of energy where people think like, oh, like, nah,
Speaker 1: don't run up that it's not gonna be a good move.
Speaker 3: I love that, you know. So when y'all had this
Speaker 3: show again, I was like, that's an interesting combo like that.
Speaker 1: Because it because but like I mean to know you both,
Speaker 1: it's not that that's y'all really not your go to
Speaker 1: it's not like who you are, like, but I love
Speaker 1: the fact that people you know, you know, anybody you know,
Speaker 1: you walk in the streets of any world. You want
Speaker 1: people to have that that kind of automatic respect that
Speaker 1: you somebody to be respected, right, And then I think
Speaker 1: that that's a very interesting quality for a man to have,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. So that was something
Speaker 1: I always loved about, you know, Stackling, because he just
Speaker 1: had that kind of like he was a ball baller hooper,
Speaker 1: go get it. But you know you also knew like
Speaker 1: I don't run.
Speaker 3: Up like and I'm the nicest guy ever. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean you know I met you many years.
Speaker 1: The same insane thing with were mad, the same thing
Speaker 1: to super nice guy everything, but definitely had that rep
Speaker 1: like you know, and it's it's harder for.
Speaker 3: You light skinned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that pretty ass half ship. Everybody like everybody like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's a good as quality.
Speaker 3: To have, like you know ship.
Speaker 2: Uh man, any truth, you used to gamble with m
Speaker 2: J and Barkley in Vegas.
Speaker 1: So one time when we get that ship, get that ship,
Speaker 1: very goddamn clear. They gambled on another level man. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was gambling with Barkley. We was at a
Speaker 1: uh we was at the at the roulette table. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he liked to play roulette at that time, so he
Speaker 1: was at the roulette table. We're doing we just stacking.
Speaker 1: I'm stacking on top of him.
Speaker 3: He going hard. You know, they Barkley and m J.
Speaker 3: They can they can do that thing. So he got
Speaker 3: you know, two three hundred out on the thing and
Speaker 3: I got a thousand.
Speaker 2: He's trying and how can change for this thousand?
Speaker 3: MJ comes in. M J just grab a stack.
Speaker 1: He just grab a stack of Barkley's chips like maybe
Speaker 1: maybe like one hundred and fifty thousands or something like,
Speaker 1: hey man, what you get?
Speaker 3: You know what they said, it doesn't matter, like ya know,
Speaker 3: I got you like whatever, it is, like, you tell
Speaker 3: me what I got you what?
Speaker 1: I just don't want to go and get chips. So
Speaker 1: he went over there and then so he was gambling.
Speaker 1: They was like I tried to go over there with
Speaker 1: that game. You know, it was just embarrassing to try
Speaker 1: to get in there because they doing like three hundred
Speaker 1: thousands of hands coming over here with my love a
Speaker 1: hundred dollars chips, everybody like ya, hold on, wait, wait
Speaker 1: till the next one, wait till the next one.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I can't even get in on this, Like, no,
Speaker 3: you don't need to be on this for you over
Speaker 3: here for golf.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know he liked he liked the gambled golfing.
Speaker 1: So it's like that whole thing, like, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to play for, it don't matter. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to act like, you know, I got a
Speaker 1: gun table thousand.
Speaker 3: Hold I wren't doing the math. I lost every hole
Speaker 3: eighteen thousand dollars. That's not a that's not one.
Speaker 2: I'm explaining to wife.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just don't you know, you don't get in
Speaker 3: the tail nigga. Yeah, Like was like, it's what it is,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm like, because they doing thirty thousand,
Speaker 3: the whole.
Speaker 1: They doing Billionaire Ship or whatever they're doing. But I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm like trying to act like I'm
Speaker 1: somebody that hurt.
Speaker 2: That fuck your whole mind.
Speaker 3: Course one. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You up there like, yo, I'm gonna get him on
Speaker 1: this one, man, get I'm knocked down.
Speaker 3: I can you know if it's going it was gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I glue ten, it's play, play yes play.
Speaker 2: All Star weekends. You did some comedy jams with Shack. Yeah,
Speaker 2: experienced like being an all start that kind of crowd.
Speaker 1: I mean always you know, of course that one of
Speaker 1: the big you know, one of the great kind of
Speaker 1: uh you know, we got big spectacles that that that
Speaker 1: happened in our community where you know, you got super
Speaker 1: Bowl weekend, you got NBA All Star weekend.
Speaker 3: So you know, to have that and we did those specials.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: It was fun man, you know because it's like the
Speaker 3: energy in town, everybody there. That one was in Phoenix.
Speaker 1: The first one we did Legendary we didn't want in Houston,
Speaker 1: then in Vegas, but that, you know, Miami, it's always
Speaker 1: you know, just you know, whenever the vibration of the
Speaker 1: like the whole country in one place for the you know,
Speaker 1: the energy of the NBA. So you got you know, friends, family, Pottinger,
Speaker 1: us from all around there and then and and then
Speaker 1: of course you got some of the best comics that's
Speaker 1: gonna be on one show.
Speaker 3: So that's always been a fun shock and fun loving dude.
Speaker 3: Always love to have a good time.
Speaker 1: So he really make for a great co host in
Speaker 1: that kind of environment because he he wants you to
Speaker 1: do jokes on him.
Speaker 3: He wanted he want to do jokes on you, you know.
Speaker 1: So it just is one of those kind of things
Speaker 1: that that that ended up being a great, great little
Speaker 1: partnership that ran for a ran for a minute.
Speaker 3: Man, that was good. Man. We actually did a Sports
Speaker 3: Illustrate photo shoot after that where he like this, I
Speaker 3: got a whole thing.
Speaker 2: He held jack one time too.
Speaker 3: Yeah that ship was embassing, man. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're playing each other, you know all we rocked
Speaker 4: every time we played each other. We chest bumped before
Speaker 4: the game start on different teams, right, and I ran
Speaker 4: up to him. I just ran him to a big
Speaker 4: fella and he just caught me mid are like man,
Speaker 4: if you don't put me down. Just caught me mid
Speaker 4: out with two hands, not even his arms, just his hand, like,
Speaker 4: but put me down, like.
Speaker 3: Hut me down. The game.
Speaker 1: I had a home, Yeah, baby man captain, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can't do me like that.
Speaker 3: Get you growing up, You're getting you getting So he
Speaker 3: had me like this, yeah, me like this, put me down.
Speaker 3: That's funny. Ship ship.
Speaker 4: Paint the picture of young says upbringing in Missouri, single
Speaker 4: parent household.
Speaker 3: My mother was a school teacher. She taught English and
Speaker 3: reading elementary school. So for over thirty years.
Speaker 1: I had a younger sister who was also she a
Speaker 1: professor at Pepperdine right now, so she's been there. And
Speaker 1: we were up in Saint Louis, you know, middle income.
Speaker 1: You know my mother, you know, like mom, she knew
Speaker 1: how to make it look good, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we you know, we had our own.
Speaker 3: Rooms, We had a nice little car outside.
Speaker 1: We had cool clothes, and you know, it was just
Speaker 1: a very you know, simple, respectful household, a lot of love,
Speaker 1: a lot of laughter. But I was the man of
Speaker 1: the house, so you know, it was mainly you know,
Speaker 1: me like kind of being the father. My dad was
Speaker 1: you know, they got divorced when we were really young,
Speaker 1: so and my dad was around, but not like that
Speaker 1: like so, so it was just mainly you know, mainly us,
Speaker 1: but a lot you know, real fun house. I had
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, I had relatives that lived
Speaker 1: in the inner city of Saint Louis. So my my
Speaker 1: my mother's sister, she had like eleven kids, so and
Speaker 1: then they was the inner city kids. So it's like wash, you.
Speaker 3: Go to Saint Louis, just regular Saint Louis both side,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But then you go down there,
Speaker 3: you know, to get your stripes, so you know, and
Speaker 3: it was good.
Speaker 1: And as the boy, I spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: down there because that you know, it was just you know,
Speaker 1: my mom just didn't know what to do with me.
Speaker 1: So I'll be down there with my cousin and filing
Speaker 1: out until that got too crazy and then you know,
Speaker 1: go back out to the suburbs and stuff. But you know, real,
Speaker 1: you know, real dope church lady, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we had you know, we went to church on Sunday.
Speaker 1: You know, just some fun, dope life, you know. And
Speaker 1: she was really one of those people that like encourage
Speaker 1: you to do a lot of good things. I always
Speaker 1: say one of my mother's favorite thing was that your
Speaker 1: good name enters the room before you do and stays
Speaker 1: after you're gone. So that was like she she always
Speaker 1: talked about that being credit. She was like, that's what
Speaker 1: credit is. When somebody say your name is what is
Speaker 1: it make them feel?
Speaker 3: Do they like it?
Speaker 1: You know? So when they say your name before you
Speaker 1: get there is it's gonna be a good feeling. When
Speaker 1: you gon do people speak you speak up you in
Speaker 1: a good way. And I always thought that that was
Speaker 1: just one of the greatest piece of advices to kind
Speaker 1: of take in life, you know, because you know you
Speaker 1: don't you know you do you rode through life flowing
Speaker 1: and you don't know when you're gonna cross these bridges
Speaker 1: again or when when something happens. So what good is
Speaker 1: it to you to, you know, to have something negative
Speaker 1: about you in the space, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if it ain't necessary. So so I really loved that.
Speaker 1: That's the kind of woman she was. And so you know,
Speaker 1: I got a wine now that I named after her,
Speaker 1: So I do it with my wine. Since twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: seta her name was real Setta, and so we do
Speaker 1: that Naple valley Wine, beautiful red. You know, she was redhead,
Speaker 1: so and so it's a redhead. But now I got
Speaker 1: a red and a white.
Speaker 3: So it's dope. Man. So I just I like them.
Speaker 3: It kind of She passed at twenty sixteen, so we've
Speaker 3: just been honored.
Speaker 1: I got a I got a hospital women's pavilion with
Speaker 1: her name on it in Saint Louis. So that's the
Speaker 1: kind of charitrible stuff I do. So this will take
Speaker 1: you know, they do the kind of work for all,
Speaker 1: like you know, single parents and ladies and a lot
Speaker 1: of women's health things that they do when people don't have.
Speaker 1: You know that that helped make you know, bands go
Speaker 1: get folks and testings and.
Speaker 3: All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: So he was in church a lot. Did you sing
Speaker 4: in the youth choir and the yeah, man, we all
Speaker 4: had you had to do it, had to do it.
Speaker 1: Man, And you know I used to be I used
Speaker 1: to really consider myself a little singer, you know. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm Yeah, that was about the first thing I remember.
Speaker 3: I remember being in this group man with this dude,
Speaker 3: like he could really sing two in the group and
Speaker 3: just one night, I remember I wanted to hit the
Speaker 3: high note and I and it was like, you know, no,
Speaker 3: you got the lowest voice in there, like, don't try
Speaker 3: to do that.
Speaker 1: But you know, we at the one church where all
Speaker 1: the pretty girls said and you know, and I was like,
Speaker 1: let me.
Speaker 3: Get the note tonight. We was you know, seventeen and
Speaker 3: sixteen seventeen or whatever.
Speaker 1: Man know, did not come out like and I was like,
Speaker 1: I would should have stayed in my lane. But though
Speaker 1: it's like one of the things you see the little
Speaker 1: girls up there was like, dog me.
Speaker 3: Get to note.
Speaker 1: The crazy heymen, hey man, sometimes the Lord you you
Speaker 1: just go into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the Lord works with you sometimes.
Speaker 4: I had that same story, said, but I got to
Speaker 4: I got two young sisters that used to always lead
Speaker 4: the songs.
Speaker 3: But they was good at hooping. I do nothing, and
Speaker 3: they was killing it. And I just thought.
Speaker 4: I thought it was gonna transfer down the line to
Speaker 4: me and nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't let a song.
Speaker 4: I think I left the choir after that because it
Speaker 4: was so embarrassing and I tried to grab it and
Speaker 4: go straight to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah it wasn't that gotta be in you. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: like they had the Holy Spirit or something in them.
Speaker 3: I didn't. I just thought they could just transfer down
Speaker 3: the line.
Speaker 2: I don't work like that didn't work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was in the street. I'd done so much
Speaker 3: ship the night before. It's no way to hold spread
Speaker 3: it on downside, Like you what are you doing? I
Speaker 3: know what you was ship man? I tried. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's true.
Speaker 1: That's funny though, But I love I loved that experience. Shoot,
Speaker 1: like because you know, like when I came to LA
Speaker 1: I ain't going to church as much, so you know,
Speaker 1: I just remember, like how you know that that feeling
Speaker 1: went to Kirk Franklin concert the other night.
Speaker 3: He was out there and that that that having that
Speaker 3: kind of really.
Speaker 1: Religious energy church people singing big songs, that spiritual.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, you know you kind of really
Speaker 3: missed that vibration. I ain't like that no more.
Speaker 1: It ain't like it's like you know, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, everybody just they they taking uh you know,
Speaker 1: sexy red songs and making church sounds out of Damn.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it, bron, It's all all over my scripture. Pink,
Speaker 3: my scripture, pink. Sh Wow, he's a walk in the
Speaker 3: club and I don't know if you could do that.
Speaker 3: You're doing that for real? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is it true that you got to seize desist from
Speaker 4: General Mills because of the stage named Cheerio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, official letters with the green stamp on the
Speaker 1: outside with you steal that, Yeah, ceazing decisse. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: because I used to go buy Cheerio.
Speaker 2: You know, honey, nothing just regularly.
Speaker 3: You say, honey, noting I got.
Speaker 1: I think I'm glad I put it out because that
Speaker 1: was gonna be the that was gonna be the question throughout, like.
Speaker 3: Calling you Cheerio people coming out. I had to change
Speaker 3: it there, Yes, sir, it was. It was the whole thing,
Speaker 3: cheer Yo, Cheerio. You know how you're trying to make
Speaker 3: it sound cool, Rio Rio, I kind of make it
Speaker 3: sound cool, but it was.
Speaker 1: It all kind of came like, you know, at that time,
Speaker 1: people was like you have sid Bad, you have people
Speaker 1: like it was just kind of taking these one name names.
Speaker 3: And making themselves brand.
Speaker 1: It was used to be a dude named Kodak and
Speaker 1: you know, and I was like, oh, that's fly right there,
Speaker 1: and then my name is Cedric. But to see I'm
Speaker 1: going around like laughter, said cheer cheerio. It was like,
Speaker 1: I see right now, y'all my friends.
Speaker 3: Friend y'all because everybody else was like, yeah, that's dope,
Speaker 3: y'all was both like I need it. I need it
Speaker 3: y'all at that time because the friends that I had then,
Speaker 3: it was like cheero change with a little, get a
Speaker 3: change what it did with the little put the cheerio
Speaker 3: be on it.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 3: He gotta chatted on him right here. There's all the
Speaker 3: old school tattoo.
Speaker 7: Cheerio go right like bad letterings like delicious. You should
Speaker 7: have said, man, you should have stayed with delicious man.
Speaker 3: That that really happened.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad I changed my name long before that
Speaker 1: happened because I was the Chicago the dude did that.
Speaker 1: It was funny now Bro walked there. That really happened.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, Daryl, Dona's whatever saying. But everybody
Speaker 1: called me delicious man. You just called me that said.
Speaker 3: Delicious man, Delicious. You know, Bro Man said, what if
Speaker 3: you named Daryl? Said, they called me delicious?
Speaker 1: Yeah, pull up, that's not gonna beat me. Your mama
Speaker 1: picked up the phone. Are you doing, miss Johnson? Delicious?
Speaker 1: There He was dead serious too. He wanted he was
Speaker 1: one of them Chicago pill dude. He was like, yeah
Speaker 1: you yeah, you finance Hell, I say you man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pay for half your meal.
Speaker 3: I never heard that half Ye.
Speaker 1: Stanks, thanks man, Yeah, man, Darren. Everybody call me delicious though, man,
Speaker 1: you could call me that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 3: You moved to l a in uh ninety two, ninety three,
Speaker 3: right around the time of the riots. Yeah, talk about that,
Speaker 3: but that.
Speaker 1: Was like yeah, you know, so I actually came in
Speaker 1: ninety four, so it was right after that, and you know,
Speaker 1: but it was crazy times because it was still a
Speaker 1: very much of a big gang coach in LA.
Speaker 3: We didn't really do that in Saint Louis. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 3: it was that.
Speaker 1: It was that kind of you know, the vibration of
Speaker 1: the city was of course, it was a place where
Speaker 1: you come to make it right, you know, if you're
Speaker 1: doing any kind of thing in entertainment. But it was
Speaker 1: wild to be, you know, in a city where you know,
Speaker 1: like culturally you had to be on you know, you
Speaker 1: had to be on your toes like in a different
Speaker 1: kind of way. And then you know, right after that,
Speaker 1: it was just really you know, it felt violent in LA.
Speaker 1: At many times you go to this own place, it
Speaker 1: just felt like, you know, but it was also a
Speaker 1: place where you know, opportunity was happening. It was a
Speaker 1: lot of great you know, people was getting shows, you know,
Speaker 1: like you think about it, Steve Harvey Show, The Wayans,
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox, Martin was popping like. It was a lot
Speaker 1: of things bubbling that that had the city like growing.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's just it was one of those
Speaker 1: things where you know, I was actually glad. Saint Louis
Speaker 1: was you know, of course the kind of city where
Speaker 1: you grow up and you feel like home, but it's
Speaker 1: also a place where you could, in a lot of
Speaker 1: ways know that you gotta out, you gotta leave in
Speaker 1: order to go get something real. So so I was
Speaker 1: just I was really happy that, you know, all the
Speaker 1: things kind of lined up for me to be there
Speaker 1: at the time that I did, because I didn't move
Speaker 1: to LA like like most people will tell you as
Speaker 1: a comic Girol, you gotta go to LA or to
Speaker 1: New York to make it, But I like would come
Speaker 1: out there on trips because again I had, like I worked,
Speaker 1: I was. I was a state fum claims adjuster for
Speaker 1: four years. I had like saved money, I had a house,
Speaker 1: I was I was doing like you know, I had insurance.
Speaker 1: You know, I was doing shit that wasn't like people would.
Speaker 1: I was grown, you know, like when I'm twenty nine
Speaker 1: years old, you know, so I wasn't out there really,
Speaker 1: you know, out there for the Shenanigans of it. So
Speaker 1: when I went to when I finally came to LA,
Speaker 1: it was because I had a deal and I became
Speaker 1: the host of Comic View and they you know, they
Speaker 1: paid and then was able to get me an apartment
Speaker 1: and that's how I kind of stayed out there. So
Speaker 1: I just kind of kept going from there. But I
Speaker 1: had I kept all my main stuff in Saint Louis
Speaker 1: until I got married. Shoot, that was like in ninety
Speaker 1: nine s and it seemed like a long time.
Speaker 4: Why why why Darius Miles of course, you know he's
Speaker 4: from East Saint Louis. Why he sayed Saint Louis East,
Speaker 4: Like East St. Louis is not close to being the same.
Speaker 3: They not, they not, but they are, like I mean,
Speaker 3: it's real, it's a real thing, Like because East Saint.
Speaker 1: Louis is Illinois, and it's definitely you know, known for
Speaker 1: being the more grimey, yeah.
Speaker 3: Grimy of the two, and you know, in a lot
Speaker 3: of ways they are.
Speaker 1: But because you know, like you know, for Saint Louis, dudes,
Speaker 1: like the East side is the late night side.
Speaker 3: That's the yeah turnout. You go there, the four and
Speaker 3: the five in the morning, you kick it.
Speaker 1: So that blown to us as much as it did
Speaker 1: to them as far as we're concerned, because so you
Speaker 1: had a lot of Kendrick you know, kind of energy there,
Speaker 1: but it was, you know, it was hardcore because they
Speaker 1: it was just super hood on that side right here.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, as far as like where
Speaker 1: they kind of fit on the State, they was like
Speaker 1: at the lower part, I don't and I don't think
Speaker 1: nobody just really like they State money never really tried
Speaker 1: to take care of them like that. So all the
Speaker 1: all the shiny stuff was right there on Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: So we kind of showed up like look at us,
Speaker 1: we're stunting, you know. So it always had that kind
Speaker 1: of undertone to it. But again, they had the clubs,
Speaker 1: they had the late night they had the fun get
Speaker 1: the strip clubs, everything on.
Speaker 3: The East Side. So I feel way more safe in St.
Speaker 3: Louis that're not doing. Yeah, No, east Side is definitely
Speaker 3: you want to have you some relationships.
Speaker 1: It's definitely yeah, yeah, definitely a place you want to Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely want to go in and have a couple of
Speaker 1: names you can drop to to where people be like, okay,
Speaker 1: you good.
Speaker 3: You know, you know T Rock Dall Me and T
Speaker 3: that's my god. Delicious not that much. Delicious ain't gonna
Speaker 3: get you far over there.
Speaker 4: You need to know like a little run in, a
Speaker 4: little Rutherford the Pistil Starter, Yeah, yeah, yeah that group. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you voice three comedy skits on albums Nellie's Country Grandma, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Nellie's Nellyville and jay Z's The Black.
Speaker 3: Album Threats, threatening, step in the step in the method
Speaker 3: like drug money man.
Speaker 1: Those those are all great, man, you know, because you
Speaker 1: know you're a part of like music. You know, we
Speaker 1: all like you know, have that desire to do a
Speaker 1: little bit of all of it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So you know, like Nelly being from Saint Louis, they
Speaker 1: was hot. You know, they was doing their thing and
Speaker 1: so when Country Granmar was coming out, they just called me.
Speaker 1: We had did like a comedy show or something, you
Speaker 1: know where they was a part of it, so we
Speaker 1: knew each other in that way. So when the album
Speaker 1: was getting call, they called, like I was in l
Speaker 1: a and they was like, yo, man, I want you
Speaker 1: to do these skits to be on the album.
Speaker 3: And that was just you know, it was one of them.
Speaker 1: You didn't you don't notice thing about to go diamond,
Speaker 1: but you know, like yo, but that's just fun, like
Speaker 1: you know, especially back then everybody. That was a good
Speaker 1: spot for comedians to be able to do a skin
Speaker 1: on the album because it's like that that consistency of
Speaker 1: being like known throughout by doing it and so, uh,
Speaker 1: that was a great one. And then with jay Z
Speaker 1: that was kind of that was like a lucky one
Speaker 1: really in a way because I saw jay in different places,
Speaker 1: uh you know, around the world, different spots, and I
Speaker 1: just told him one time I wanted to see him
Speaker 1: work because I heard it, you know, like the way
Speaker 1: he right, And they was like, yo, he right. So
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, man, thought, if I'm in New York,
Speaker 1: I want to come to the studio. I just want
Speaker 1: to see when you work. He was like, no problem.
Speaker 1: So I just happened to be there. I called he
Speaker 1: was doing the Black album. I go up to the studio.
Speaker 1: He hanging, He's just doing this thing, doing the jay
Speaker 1: Z thing, and he was like, I gotta leave and
Speaker 1: make a run. But I'm working on this record called Threats,
Speaker 1: and I need I need a mad mad rapper type skit,
Speaker 1: like a dude like, you know, like what a mad
Speaker 1: rapper was on he was on the Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: was on the other album. But he was like, I
Speaker 1: just need somebody this on tripping, you know, saying about
Speaker 1: threatening it folks. I was like all right, and he left.
Speaker 1: So it's just me and Guru and a couple of people,
Speaker 1: and I just went in there freestyled and I was
Speaker 1: just in there just saying shit. And then he called
Speaker 1: me down about like one. He's like, hey man, what's up.
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, you want to be on this album?
Speaker 3: You made it. I was like, what wan the blackout?
Speaker 3: I just need a chain. I need the rock chain. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I ain't never get my damn check. I ain't never
Speaker 3: get my chain.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: So that but that was it.
Speaker 1: That was the only thing I really wanted and so
Speaker 1: but it was fun though, but even again, it was
Speaker 1: just big you know, you know when you see them
Speaker 1: in hindsight and you recognize like how music just transferred
Speaker 1: people's lives and then it just go on and on.
Speaker 1: And it was like because like I getting on for that,
Speaker 1: you know that Nelly skid that, you know, you know
Speaker 1: what I was like the big body bends with two
Speaker 1: dollars worth of gas and stuff like that, and just
Speaker 1: like people will know that was they'll quote those things
Speaker 1: to me to this day.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, you be like, yo, I
Speaker 3: was just going in there playing, you know, just having
Speaker 3: a good time.
Speaker 2: He was a monster back then.
Speaker 3: Oh crazy that that went so crazy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that that that album went off and
Speaker 1: then hot and here and the next joke that was crazy,
Speaker 1: that big.
Speaker 3: Old that was a big tip drill video. No, no,
Speaker 3: I was Cheerio at the time. They wouldn't let me in.
Speaker 3: What you got relationship with Bun be from port author
Speaker 3: you and right.
Speaker 1: Yeah Bun I did someone want a Bun album? Yeah
Speaker 1: that's all about that. Yeah I remember that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: did someone one Bun album. But coming down, like so
Speaker 1: I used to go Steve used to be based here. Uh,
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey was based in Dallas and that was one
Speaker 1: of the starting grounds for me. So I used to
Speaker 1: have a lot of comedy here. And then his manager
Speaker 1: at the time, Rashaan was in Houston and he had
Speaker 1: a club, so they so you would do them both,
Speaker 1: so you would come down there. So I spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time down in Houston, and then with Bun
Speaker 1: and Pimp and all them, they was like popping and
Speaker 1: you know they come popp a couple of times.
Speaker 3: Tell the story about Himp, like you got these stories about.
Speaker 1: Only only Real One. No no, because only Real one
Speaker 1: where we ever kind of really though, it was like
Speaker 1: an award show, and you know, he he was just
Speaker 1: like Pels, just like Hella Cole. You know, we just
Speaker 1: went just saying what up. We we we respect each
Speaker 1: other and pre each other, you know, just kind of thing.
Speaker 1: He met my daughter, you know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: just was like a real cool, cool dude. Like that
Speaker 1: was the only time me and him ever kind of
Speaker 1: locked up like that. Yeah, but I keep it with
Speaker 1: Bun a lot more, you know, even even busting up
Speaker 1: in the Trio Burgers and yeah, you know, like just
Speaker 1: recently and then uh, you know, he just.
Speaker 3: You know, he just slid. Dude.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to see like that, that kind of spin
Speaker 1: like when somebody takes their you know, their celebrity and
Speaker 1: then go into another thing in life and then had
Speaker 1: great success as well, you know, especially for a dude
Speaker 1: like him, just so solid like for you know, this
Speaker 1: this new venture to.
Speaker 3: Be just as dope as as he was as a rapper,
Speaker 3: to be like this dude. Yeah, barbecue sauce right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to do a tril Burger. Yeah we did.
Speaker 1: We did a little we did a day where we
Speaker 1: did little collab where we're down there we see barbecue, Yeah,
Speaker 1: popped up, you know.
Speaker 3: So that was dope.
Speaker 1: And so you know, we actually got some other you know,
Speaker 1: we had some other business uh deals going that prevented
Speaker 1: us from kind of locking in on it, uh for real.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, but that was dope, man. And uh
Speaker 1: so yeah, me and Anthony got ac barbecue been really growing.
Speaker 1: We in Walmart, Lowe's and H. H. G. B's down
Speaker 1: in Texas here and then uh and uh and then
Speaker 1: uh Amazon, So we just made Oprah's Favorite things this year.
Speaker 1: So that's a big thing, right there. A lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of real cool stuff happening. We're gonna open
Speaker 1: up our first restaurant, our own Flagshire restaurant in the
Speaker 1: Century City mall, you know out there, the one in
Speaker 1: Century City upstairs the food court. So that's gonna be
Speaker 1: coming soon. Uh where We're gonna have our own, our
Speaker 1: first flagship store.
Speaker 2: So we I walked around the other day like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: It got sexy over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because it's kind of indoor outdoor, but it's
Speaker 1: a it's a great spot for the you know when
Speaker 1: you know that holiday shopping, when you just out like strolling,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a over there.
Speaker 2: You got a nice list of movies you've been in
Speaker 2: and produced and been a part of, you know, anyone
Speaker 2: to stand out.
Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite?
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, like I guess, you know, probably Barbershop one
Speaker 1: was my favorite.
Speaker 3: Like movie to do be Cool?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, be Cool with the rock dam Johnson Family
Speaker 1: Vacation had a blast doing uh you know the Mattagascars.
Speaker 3: You know, you do.
Speaker 1: Animation, that's the first thing. But it was like some
Speaker 1: of the biggest paydays I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 3: That was crazy.
Speaker 1: That was crazy because that I didn't even know really
Speaker 1: what it was until like it was like like a
Speaker 1: year later. They said the residual check one time every
Speaker 1: bought the house with it. I was like, yo, just
Speaker 1: showed up in the mail.
Speaker 3: I was like, this all mine. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like it's crazy, man, y'all told my wife she don't
Speaker 3: know yet, you know about this. You don't know about this, dude.
Speaker 3: This not to go on the rolls, you know. So no,
Speaker 3: but if she see it, it's going on a new kitchen.
Speaker 1: But if I see it, the double yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: get ready, We get ready, drop it on some forges,
Speaker 1: some wild ship. Just uh but uh yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: like really just a lot of fun doing a lot
Speaker 1: of picture. I did, uh this when we first reformed,
Speaker 1: where I got a chance to work with Ethan Hawk,
Speaker 1: like you know, like a more dramatic role, like those
Speaker 1: kind of things, like when you get to do stuff
Speaker 1: outside of your like kind of norm you know that
Speaker 1: that was dope, like to be with like heavy hitters,
Speaker 1: like a man to say Freed and Ethan Hawk, you know,
Speaker 1: like doing scenes with these with these that boy dog
Speaker 1: when he comes.
Speaker 3: To that acting like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you got to step up and those kinds of
Speaker 1: things are really great experiences man. So you know, and
Speaker 1: I you know, and I had to do that intolerable cruelty.
Speaker 1: That's another movie I have fun on. Uh that Gus
Speaker 1: Petch character. That was fun, Like you just get to
Speaker 1: make up characters and just have fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's been, it's been. It's been a fun run.
Speaker 2: Fatherhood for me, Yeah, your fatherhood father three? Yeah, what's
Speaker 2: that mean to you?
Speaker 1: It's a very unique thing because you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: you know, my my father wasn't really you know, and
Speaker 1: again not the he not the ship on him, like
Speaker 1: he's not a bad dude, but he wasn't around like that, right, So,
Speaker 1: so I didn't really have especially as a male like
Speaker 1: you growing up in a household with just your mom's
Speaker 1: your sister, and you gotta like learn how to be
Speaker 1: a male in these kind of situations. And and so
Speaker 1: like when I you know, when I had my first child,
Speaker 1: you know, like my my my first daughter was like
Speaker 1: again from a situation, not marriage, you know, it's.
Speaker 3: Just it's sad. Damn there you go, there you go,
Speaker 3: I guess we're gonna do this then.
Speaker 1: So but you know, it was crazy, and so like
Speaker 1: you know, like it was a lot harder my career
Speaker 1: was going at the same time, and you young, you
Speaker 1: just trying.
Speaker 3: So I'm like really focused on my career. I'm like longest,
Speaker 3: I'm like paying my daughter good.
Speaker 1: So you kind of missed the elements of really like
Speaker 1: being in on the on it because I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I'm climbing on the you know, climbing up
Speaker 1: the career louder ladder. So she's in Saint Louis and
Speaker 1: I'm like in La mainly, and you know, you pay,
Speaker 1: you pay to say to say, hey, I'm the dad.
Speaker 1: You know I got you in school, do to show
Speaker 1: up every now and then. But then when you know,
Speaker 1: when I got married, then my two youngest kids, you know,
Speaker 1: you got that more in the house, more on the ground,
Speaker 1: more part of the schedule, more a part of who
Speaker 1: they are is understanding, and so you definitely learned. So
Speaker 1: I had to go back and get some of those
Speaker 1: things with my oldest daughter, which is hard because now
Speaker 1: she's formulated her own thoughts and I have mine and
Speaker 1: we have to earn these things back. And so but
Speaker 1: I do feel it's the responsibility to know that as
Speaker 1: the as the mail in the household, and you have
Speaker 1: these children, it's important for you to be a person
Speaker 1: that is a guide in life is a source of
Speaker 1: comfort for them, is a source of uh knowledge, a
Speaker 1: place for them to.
Speaker 3: You know, ask questions and be guiding in a in
Speaker 3: a in the right way. You know.
Speaker 1: I think that when we have money, you know, luckily,
Speaker 1: like say, I was able to learn that, you know,
Speaker 1: with my oldest daughter, that just having money is not
Speaker 1: the resolve of that. So, you know, I was able
Speaker 1: to learn that you just can't pay your way through
Speaker 1: daddyhood like that ain't no that, ain't that ain't gonna
Speaker 1: win because you know, these you know, kids and people
Speaker 1: have a lot of needs and you know, and so
Speaker 1: uh so you have to go back and earn that
Speaker 1: now you know, now my oldest daughter has a daughter,
Speaker 1: So I got a granddaughter, and it's just you know,
Speaker 1: a unique bond because that's that would have been a
Speaker 1: space that if I'd have been on that same energy
Speaker 1: I was, I wouldn't have that relationship with my granddaughter
Speaker 1: because I was on some you mad at me, I'm
Speaker 1: mad at you, you you know, like you know, you
Speaker 1: realize that my wife was the kind of person that
Speaker 1: was like, look that doesn't work.
Speaker 3: You got to get in there, sir.
Speaker 1: And so that's what I really do appreciate, you know,
Speaker 1: and learning about being you know, being a father. And
Speaker 1: then you know, our kids grow up in this space
Speaker 1: where they see us and they see our successes, and
Speaker 1: somehow they feel challenged that they have to be these
Speaker 1: things too early, you know, especially my son, you know,
Speaker 1: he has that that thing where he feels like he
Speaker 1: has to have all the answers and be successful because
Speaker 1: I'm successful. And he puts a lot of pressure on
Speaker 1: himself for that reason. And it's like, you know, man,
Speaker 1: it's about discovery. So like there's a lot of like
Speaker 1: you know, I told him, you know, I was. I
Speaker 1: was twenty eight, twenty nine when I discovered comedy, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty seven or whatever in there, but thirty something when
Speaker 1: I made it.
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm not. I'm not, you know, you
Speaker 3: twenty four years old, bro.
Speaker 1: Like you know, just just work, Just go to work,
Speaker 1: wake up every day and be and be the best
Speaker 1: you and just kind of stay at that and don't
Speaker 1: put that kind of pressure on yourself, you know.
Speaker 3: So, uh, I think those.
Speaker 1: Those other kind of things that you know, I wish
Speaker 1: I had somebody guiding meeting, you know and giving me
Speaker 1: cool game and there for me and that's what I
Speaker 1: think is really one of the most important being being conscious,
Speaker 1: being aware, being alert, listening, and being being involved.
Speaker 3: That's the best you can do as a father.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, home stretch quick hitter is first thing to come
Speaker 2: to mind. Top five comedians of.
Speaker 3: All time, Wow, top five all time? Wow. Listen my list.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go Richie Pryor, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Eddie Murphy. I'm gonna go with the
Speaker 1: late Robin Harris. I'm gonna go with Robin Williams and
Speaker 1: uh and I'm gonna put up.
Speaker 3: We'll push push push pel on it. We'll put feeling
Speaker 3: that I rock with him like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Five Dinner against that Alive oh Man, Muhammad Ali, Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King. I don't want somebody fun at that ship.
Speaker 1: I want Eddie Murphy there, and then I want like
Speaker 1: shot Dave there. Yeah, then yeah, yeah, shot A She'll
Speaker 1: be there and then.
Speaker 3: And then like uh.
Speaker 1: And maybe somebody like Abraham Lincoln Man just yeah, like
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, because he you know.
Speaker 3: The first one had a hat that you like.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 3: See you know you so take the Briamball show you
Speaker 3: how to do it?
Speaker 2: I like that one album repeat.
Speaker 3: Oh man.
Speaker 1: Man's combination combination. So Marvin Gay I Want you and
Speaker 1: reasonable doubts.
Speaker 3: Jay Z Yeah, classes get the pleasure pizza like uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like pepperoni and you know sometimes hallopeno, but some
Speaker 1: good cheese, good crispy crust. Yeah, like damn man, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to trying to get off that od Zippy.
Speaker 1: They're drinking o zipic smoothies. Lady oh Shower the childhood crush.
Speaker 1: Shata was one one boy Sha from good time. She
Speaker 1: got to throw her on there boys. She was one
Speaker 1: of the ones at that time that look look horrible
Speaker 1: kind of thing right there. Lola Filanda, that's when y'all
Speaker 1: got to go back over. But Lola Fla, that was
Speaker 1: like when yo mama got a friend.
Speaker 3: That's like that. You like, you little you got that
Speaker 3: one older lady.
Speaker 1: You're like, so your boy daughter just played Lola and yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: Barbi dog Yeah Lori plays. Yeah, that's kind of the
Speaker 1: tonality if you see the real Lola, like Laurie, there's
Speaker 1: a good, good prototype for that. Who she was as
Speaker 1: a She was a dancer and just fun and energetic.
Speaker 1: I just remember being little as a kid, like you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all was like yo, Mi's Lola.
Speaker 3: Boy going to the bathroom, now BAM's lola that night.
Speaker 4: One guess, one guest that you want to see on
Speaker 4: All the Smoke, But you have to help us get
Speaker 4: your answer.
Speaker 3: On the show. People. You know a lot I do.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people that need to be
Speaker 1: on All the Smoke. Y'all need to have like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, did y'all have George low Pans over here?
Speaker 3: Like like George? George is a fun interview and a
Speaker 3: fun dude too like that. Yeah, he'll rock with y'all. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he'll He'll definitely do a cush up too.
Speaker 2: Like a smoking event at his crib one time.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you used to do the who
Speaker 3: Weed in My Pool? These parties?
Speaker 1: Yeah that he was doing a party called who Weed
Speaker 1: in My Pool? And be a weed pool party? What said?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: We appreciate you obviously one of the greats, but even
Speaker 2: a better person. And I mean we wish you continue
Speaker 2: success as long as you want to do this ship.
Speaker 2: Thanks for your time, man, Thank you.
Speaker 3: Man love I started acting, so keep me in mind, please, brother,
Speaker 3: my brother. Okay, man, see you didn't laughing like Kevin
Speaker 3: Hart did. So appreciate it. I like it, man. You
Speaker 3: know Chump the only one that tried to do it
Speaker 3: like Shump is trying to jump into that ag. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I can see it happen. Rolls that he doing
Speaker 3: like some of them. Rolls like to be closer to me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, well you look the thing about the actor, man,
Speaker 1: you allow yourself to you know, have other experiences. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's one thing to be yourself and it's a
Speaker 1: thing to be like, Yo, I've seen this kind of
Speaker 1: person before.
Speaker 3: Let me figure that out right. You can make it.
Speaker 3: You can make it be true.
Speaker 1: You'll be surprised, like if you just let it and
Speaker 1: you don't have to do nothing out of out of
Speaker 1: your mind. But you can just definitely identify with people
Speaker 1: like that. You know, you'd be like, oh, I know
Speaker 1: a character that's more like that. It's not like me
Speaker 1: that I can that I can hear. That's that's how
Speaker 1: you gotta.
Speaker 3: Trust, well said man.
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Speaker 3: Man, I like this.
Speaker 2: Man, that's a wrap, said the Ertay. You can catch
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Speaker 2: we'll catch out next week.
Speaker 3: M hm mm hmmm