1 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to the Betting Pros Podcast. I'm 2 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: your host, Dan Harris. Find me on Twitter at Dan 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: Harris eighty. It's time to talk about our week six 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: best bets for the NFL season. Here's me to do 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: that is Benny Richardi from FTN. Find him on Twitter 6 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: at Benny R eleven. Benny, thanks for joining me. How 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: you doing? 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm doing good man. It's an interesting week coming up here. 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: Some some good games to bet on, some other ones 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: that I don't really know what I want to. 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: Do with, so I'm just kind of avoiding them. 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: But again, the good thing is the book's got to 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: make a line for all of them. We just got 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: to find one or two that we like. 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: I feel like this week is harder. I just I 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: don't have a good enough sense for a lot of 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: these games. Like I look at a lot of these 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: games usually, you know, you we were just talking about 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: how we do opening lines, right, you do you know 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: a big video I do podcast, and how like I 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: generally feel like there's usually I don't know, four or five, 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: maybe six games I have kind of a strong reaction 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: to it. This week, I didn't. 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: This week. 25 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: I was very much like ah, these are these are 26 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: kind of sharp. You feel the same way. 27 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of those 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: games that have the hook on the on the other side, 29 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: Like if it was three, I'd be like, oh, I'm 30 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: definitely taking this, But like that hooks a big deal, man, 31 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: when you got the three and a half's there or 32 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: even some of them are at four, like the you know, 33 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: like one of them I think we're gonna talk. 34 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: About in a little bit here with with Dallas. 35 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: Like those those are key numbers, and those numbers like 36 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: they change a lot there, you know. I mean I 37 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: I think that numbers are in that area are even 38 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: more important than people are making a big deal. Oh 39 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: Carolina was favored to start the week and now they're 40 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: the other minus one to plus one. 41 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: That to me, that's the melting move. 42 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: Nothing move. 43 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it doesn't matter to me when that happens. 44 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: But you know, you go from from three to three 45 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: and a half or three to four and a half 46 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: like that one and a half one point right there, 47 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: much bigger deal to me. 48 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: And we got a lot of those this week. 49 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: So absolutely, I'm hoping I'm not on the wrong side 50 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: of a bunch of hooks on something that's basically what I'm. 51 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Saying on here. 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Our guest Scott 79 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: Bagman went one, one and one. He hit on the 80 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: Pats and Texans over thirty nine and a half. He 81 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: missed on the Vikings laying nine and a half to 82 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: the Lions, and then he pushed on the Packers, laying 83 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: three to the Bengals, which I'm sure his heart was 84 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: in his throat throughout that day. I had another positive day, 85 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: third week in a row. Here I hit on the Eagles, 86 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: getting three and a half from the Panthers, and the 87 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: Jets and the Falcons over forty five and a half. 88 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: But the train on the Broncos under finally ended, and 89 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: I missed on the under thirty nine and a half 90 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: with the Broncos and the Steelers. But it's been a 91 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: couple of good weeks here, seven and two over the 92 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: last three, Benny, So if this goes downhill, I will 93 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: be blaming you. But it's fine. We're gonna be using 94 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: the lines. I'll check the lines of betting pros come 95 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: but obviously it's all over the place with the various books, 96 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: and I will point it out. Benny, you are the guest. 97 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: You get to get us started. What's your favorite bet 98 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: here of the weekend? 99 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: So my favorite bet of the week is actually the 100 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals on the road against Detroit in one of 101 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: those games where the hook is on the other side 102 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: from what I was talking about here. So I'm actually 103 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: willing to lay the three and a half here with Cincinnati. 104 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: Cincinnati has a top nine rated offense a top seven 105 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: rated defense. You know, when I originally looked at this line, 106 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: I said, oh, this must be the line in case 107 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow doesn't play because they had to take him 108 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: to the hospital after the last game, some kind of 109 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: throat contrusion or something that happens. He did finish the game. 110 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: He's been practicing all week. I just thought that the 111 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: three and a half was just way, way too low 112 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: of a number here. 113 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: You know, you look at this Detroit team. 114 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: Most people in their power rankings have Detroit and like 115 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: the bottom four, the bottom five of the league. Now, 116 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: there are four or five teams that are just absolutely 117 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: horrible football teams that depending on which power ranking you use, 118 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: on which site you're looking at, but it's the same 119 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: five teams that are basically down there, with Detroit being 120 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: one of them. Cincinnati right now is you know, you 121 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: look at PFF, you look at some of the other 122 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: rating systems out there, this is a top ten overall team. 123 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: Good on both sides of the football here. 124 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: One of the things that their defense is really good 125 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: at is stopping to run. The only thing that Detroit 126 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: can basically do right now is kind of run the 127 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: football a little bit there with you know, the two 128 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: good running backs that they have in Swift and Williams. 129 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: So that's really the way that they want to play. 130 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: And if Cincinnati's going to stop them, then they're not 131 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: going to be able to do that. So they're going 132 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: to have to go to the air when you look 133 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: at Detroit having to go to the air. It is 134 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: Jared Goff throwing the ball to pretty much wide receivers 135 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: like three, four and five on their list right now, 136 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: because when you look down at the list, it's going 137 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: to be like Khalif Raymond, probably like Amen ros Saint Brown. 138 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: You know, those are the guys that are going to 139 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: be in there. Tyrell Williams has been out with a 140 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: concussion for a couple of weeks. They lost a Quintes 141 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: Siphas last week. Even TJ. Hockinson, who is probably the 142 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 2: one guy you could really count on on that team, 143 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: mispracticed yesterday. His status is up in the air for 144 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: this weekend. You know, I'm looking at this here, and 145 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: then you look at the other side of the ball too. 146 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: Detroit has one of the worst pass coverage defense, is 147 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: one of the worst pass coverage grades in the entire league. 148 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: And then you have a healthy T Higgins. Now you 149 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: have arguably the rookie of the year out there, you know, 150 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: catching touchdowns every week, and that Tyler Boyd as well. 151 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: And it's like even cj Uzaman, who had a big 152 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: week two weeks ago. There are just so many weapons 153 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: here for Joe Burrow to play with against the defense 154 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: that has absolutely no chance to stop the pass. So Cincinnati, 155 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: I know they're on the road. I know they're laying 156 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: the hook. I know it's three and a half. I 157 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: think the reason it's three and a half is because 158 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: the books know if they left us at minus three, 159 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: this game would get absolutely hammered by everybody, So they 160 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: added the hook there to try to scare a few 161 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: people away. But I'm a little smarter than the book, 162 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: so I'm not gonna be scared by it. I'm gonna 163 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: lay the three and a half. 164 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: Within I'm looking at the various lines that are available, 165 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 1: and there is a three, oddly enough, sitting one three 166 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: sitting out there at points. Bet it's just up it's 167 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: minus one thirty here if you're gonna lay the three. 168 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, three and a half is there. I think 169 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't have a strong feeling 170 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: about this, just because when I look at it, it 171 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: does feel like even with the hook, with it being 172 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: over three, the books want you to take the Bengals, 173 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: and the books expect you to take the Bengals. Like 174 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: I imagine the public, the number of tickets that are 175 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: going to come in. It's got to be heavily on 176 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals, right, Even after that loss, nobody wants to 177 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: back the lines at this point and with a small spread, right, 178 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: So it feels like my only worry with it is 179 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: the fact that I feel like the books kind of 180 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: want you. Do you ever factor that in? By the way, 181 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: do you ever look at a line and say, this 182 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: almost feels like they're baiting me, they want me to 183 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: do this, or do you just throw that out the window? 184 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: I do, but I look at it the other way. 185 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: As you know, if you see a line out there 186 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: that's minus two and a half, to me, that's almost 187 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: the books baiting me to take the minus two and 188 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: a half, being like, oh, I'm going to get the 189 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: three on it. When they bump it up to three 190 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: and a half, I kind of look at it the 191 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: other way. It's like they bumped this up to three 192 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: and a half to try to keep me from taking 193 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: this line because they knew that if it was two 194 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: and a half or three, people would be more likely 195 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: to take it, and then they would get something that is, 196 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: you know, completely one sided, which is obviously not what 197 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: the books want to do, right. 198 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: You know, I think. 199 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: People because Detroit had a couple of those games where 200 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: they lost by like, you know, less than a field goal. There, 201 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: I think people are giving Detroit a little too much 202 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: credit for being a good team. Like Detroit is not 203 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: a good team. They're not good on offense, they're not 204 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: good on defense, they're not really all that great on 205 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: special teams. Not that that is a major factor in 206 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: my numbers, but when I look at it, I just 207 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: think that. 208 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: They're being a little bit overvalued right now. And that's 209 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: what you really want to do. 210 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: You want to find the teams that books are overvaluing, 211 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: and you want to bet against them, and you want 212 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: to find the teams that they're undervaluing and kind of 213 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: bet on them. 214 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: I still think since he's being undervalued, and I think 215 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: Detroit's being overvalued. 216 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: So when you put those two things together here, I 217 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: love this bet on the Bengals. 218 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean your point is correct. Obviously they're 219 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: three and a half. That's sort of something that is saying, oh, 220 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: you might not you know, in a vacuum, you would say, oh, 221 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: you don't want to take the Bengals. It's over a 222 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: field goal. Like look at this. I think for me, though, 223 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: with the very very Joe Q Public out there betting, 224 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: I just feel like looks at sort of be like 225 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: the Lions suck their own five. I know they almost 226 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: won that game, but they should have lost. They think 227 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: the Bengals are young and exciting. If it's anything remotely 228 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: hanging around a field goal, I feel like Joe Q 229 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: Public is going to want to take it. It's interesting. 230 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: I don't that is the side that I would go 231 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: and if I had to go on another side, but 232 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to stick in this game. Okay, this isn't 233 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: technically my second bet whatever, but I'm sticking in this 234 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: game for another one of my bats. Actually, it's gonna 235 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: be the under the forty seven and a half, and 236 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: a lot of it is based on the points that 237 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: you made, Benny, which is the Lion's offense is abysmal 238 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: right now, like really really terrible. And don't forget the 239 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: offensive line for them, at one point was a strength 240 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: of this team and it is decimated, especially with ragnow out. 241 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: That's a huge loss for them, right And you mentioned Hockinson. Yeah, 242 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: my guess is he's gonna play because he's been playing 243 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: through this new thing a lot. But without the offensive 244 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: line there to block or anything like that. It doesn't 245 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: do it. You mentioned Cefest Brocus collar bone, he's going 246 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: to be out. They don't have the pass catchers. They 247 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: do have the running backs. We're pretty strong, but you 248 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: mentioned it. That's kind of Cincinnati's strength here on defense 249 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: seventh in defensive DVOA against the run. So it's really 250 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: hard for me to see the Lions. I mean, you 251 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: got the coach, you know, Dan Campbell, talking about how 252 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, Jared gobb is struggling with like too many 253 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: plays and stuff like that, like he he knows realistically, 254 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: they're not going to put a point. So for me, 255 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: it's all about whether or not Cincinnati completely explodes offensively 256 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: in this game. And they could. I mean, obviously they 257 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: have the three wide receivers back, Joe Mixon appears healthy 258 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: though I know he was limited early in the league. 259 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: But obviously they should win this game for sure. But 260 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: for me, the reason, part of the reason why I 261 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: like the under both teams are really slow. I mean, Benny, like, 262 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: the Lions are the sixth slowest neutral pass play pace 263 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: of play in neutral situations, the Bengals are the second slowest. 264 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: Like neither one of these teams, other than the fact 265 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: that there's going to be like a seventy yard pass 266 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: play to Jamar Chase and we just have to fake 267 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: that in Neither one of these teams wants to hurry up, 268 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: let's go, let's go, let's go, let's run this. They 269 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: want to milk the clock, they want to play it slow. 270 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: So I do see the Bengals winning this game. I 271 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: do think they win it by more than a field goal. 272 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: So I'm on your side there if I have to 273 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: go away. But I still I just don't see it 274 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: being like this high, you know, powered game or anything 275 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: like that. I think it's going to be a relatively 276 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: low scoring game. So at forty seven and a half, 277 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: it's the only total on my list right now, it's 278 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: the only I like, but it's my favorite total of 279 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: the week. What do you think about that? 280 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean when you look at Detroit, they 281 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: went seventeen seventeen, fourteen, seventeen in their last four games here. 282 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: So basically what you're betting on right now is that 283 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals aren't gonna score thirty five points. 284 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 3: So I think Cincinnati's gonna win this game too. But 285 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: thirty five is asking a lot for them. 286 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: If Detroit's defense could play well enough to keep since 287 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: the other five touchdowns, I think you got it. 288 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: I think you got a winner there. 289 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: And I think the only thing that, like, the one 290 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: thing that the Lions kind of do it from a 291 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: defensive standpoint is they do get pressure, Like they're able 292 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: to get pressure on the quarterback. And Burrow's taking some shots. 293 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: You're right, he's gonna be fine with that throat contusion 294 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: or whatever, but he's taken some shots the last couple 295 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: of weeks. So I think with them getting pressure that 296 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: is gonna at least throw them out of their rhythm 297 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: and probably affect them offensively. So it's something let's go 298 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: for both of us winning this one, the Bengals winning 299 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: you know, a nice tidy twenty to thirteen game. We'll 300 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: both go home winners. Go to your second bet. What 301 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: do you got? 302 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the second one I'm looking at here. I'm 303 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: actually gonna bet we're gonna go to a total in 304 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: this one. I'm betting the over in the Kansas City 305 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 2: Washington game. And I know it's a big number. Is 306 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: it fifty five? 307 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 3: Right now? I mean, what are you looking at. 308 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: Let me take the consensus. It was fifty five and 309 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: a half last time I saw it. I'll pull it 310 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: up here, hold on, it is ooh, fifty there's it's 311 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: some books are at fifty five and a half, but 312 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: the consensus, the majority books fifty four and a half. 313 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: So even better for you, right you're going out. 314 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: There, I'll take it. 315 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: I mean, here, here's the numbers so that you can 316 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 2: you can see why I'm on this side. So far 317 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: this year, Kansas City averaging thirty one points per game, 318 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: giving up thirty two points per game, Washington averaging twenty 319 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: four points per game, giving up thirty points per game. 320 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: So we're looking in. 321 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: That fifty five sixty five rage right there. If we 322 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: just kind of, you know, go with those raw numbers 323 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 2: and add them together and then you know, the thing 324 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: that I don't think people understand is like everybody looks 325 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: at Washington and they think of last year with the 326 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: Washington Redskins, top. 327 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: Five defense, like you know, all that stuff. The offense 328 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: is really bad. 329 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 2: But so far this year that's not really the way 330 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: it's been. Other than the first game, which again was 331 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: Ryan Fitzpatrick, not you know, Taylor Heineke, who's in there now. 332 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: Heinike's actually been putting up points with this team, So 333 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: you know, if this team is gonna score. And then 334 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: the other thing is the defense hasn't been as good 335 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: this year. 336 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: This year. 337 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: Again, I'm not saying they're like a bottom ten defense 338 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 2: or anything like that, but they're a middle of the 339 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: road defense. And you know what, the Kansas City Chiefs 340 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: are gonna pick apart a middle of the road defense, 341 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: a top five defense like they've played last week with 342 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, and even Buffalo top defense in 343 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: the league, one of the top five defenses depending on 344 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: whatever ratings you're looking at. They still hung up twenty 345 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: points on Buffalo last week. They're gonna hang up thirty 346 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: here this week on Washington. And then the thing is, 347 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: I think Washington can hang it up on them because 348 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: right now, Kansas City is literally the worst defense in 349 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: the league. So the only way that Kansas City could 350 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: win games is getting into shootouts and basically Washington at 351 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: this point, I'm not saying this offense is elite. 352 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's great. There are pieces missing. 353 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: Logan Thomas being out is obviously a big deal to 354 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: this defense. Antonio Gibson's been a little banged up, not 355 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: completely himself, and you can run on Kansas City, so 356 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: that would be something that you want to hope that 357 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: he's going to be in there, or at least whoever 358 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: is in there at running back, whether it's j D 359 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: Mciszick or somebody else further down the you know, the 360 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: depth chart is going to be able to get some 361 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: yardage here. 362 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 3: I just think there's gonna be points on both sides 363 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: of this game. 364 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: And I have no problem playing overs with Kansas City 365 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: because this is the exact kind of team that I 366 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: want to play overs with. Their defense can't stop anybody, 367 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: so anybody can put up points on them, and their 368 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: offense literally doesn't need more than three plays to go 369 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: eighty yards down the field and put up a touchdown. 370 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: So I am hoping that this gets into one of 371 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: those close, back and forth kind of games where Kansas 372 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: City goes down I don't know, fourteen three or something, 373 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: storms back to make it seventeen to fourteen. Washington scores, 374 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: then Kansas City scores, then Washington scores because Kansas City 375 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: can't stop them, and then the next thing you know, 376 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: we're up there in the sixties. And I mean just 377 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: look at the scores for Kansas City's games this year. 378 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: Sixty two was the total in the first game, seventy 379 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: one in the second. The bad game they had was 380 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: fifty four in the third game, and then it was 381 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: sixty two and fifty eight in the last game. So 382 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like this is, you know, fifty 383 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: five very high number, but the way Kansas. 384 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: City's playing, they're almost playing like a college football team. 385 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: So if you're gonna get those kind of points in 386 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: their games, I'm still gonna be on the over here. 387 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: I know a lot of the public is on the 388 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: under So wait a little bit. If you can get 389 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: it at fifty four and a half, I like that. 390 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: If it drops even lower than that, that just means 391 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: you got a bit bigger. 392 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. Like I realized, 393 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: like it's like, oh, the Chiefs defense is so abysmal 394 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: that I can't even really put into words. And Washington's 395 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: their offense. It's not explosive or anything like that. But 396 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: at you know, as much as Antonio Gibson apparently has 397 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: the stress fractor in his shin, he looked fine last 398 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: week he scored two touchdowns. Terry McLaurin, I realize now 399 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: that he's pretty much the last guy standing because even 400 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel again came back for ten minutes and then 401 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: is out. That's fine, doesn't matter. They cannot stop wide 402 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: receivers no matter what you do. Heineke's played better than expected. 403 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: I think Jad McKissick is probably gonna have a decent 404 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: game in here. So I agree with you, and the 405 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: Chiefs have to win, and the only way the Chiefs 406 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: can win their two and three is to outscore you. 407 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: So it is going to be monstrous amount of points. Yeah, 408 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: it said fifty four and a half to me. I'm 409 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. I have only access to DraftKings. It's 410 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: fifty four and a half at DraftKings, which is great. 411 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: I totally love it. Again, and you mentioned it Washington's 412 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: defense man, like, where are we where all of the like? 413 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: I expected them to be a complete strength coming into 414 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: this year, complete strength and their defense right now that 415 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: you can pick on. So I don't know where this 416 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: happened now. The one thing is Tyreek Kel has misspracticed. 417 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: He misspracticed again today, so I want to make sure 418 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: he plays. Of course, by assuming he does. Even if 419 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: he doesn't, they'll i mean, pal Hartman will probably just 420 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: step right in. 421 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: Right Iron Pringle get a touchdown there. 422 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: You know, one of the things about Washington's defense this year, 423 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: they do still have a good pass rush. They have 424 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: good I shouldn't even say they have a good pass 425 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: they have good pass rushers, right, but the secondary is 426 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: so bad that I mean, like, listen, these guys still 427 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: need about three seconds to get to the quarterback. If 428 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: they can't even guard, if they can't even stop anybody 429 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: or cover anybody for three seconds, it's not going to 430 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: make a difference. 431 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: And that's really what the you know, what the numbers 432 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: have shown. 433 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: Right now is that their secondary is just so bad 434 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: that they can't even stop anybody here. 435 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: So they're not even giving that line a chance. With 436 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 3: all those pass rushers they have to kind of get home. 437 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: And that's the thing. 438 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: You hope that your a good defensive line can help 439 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: out your corners, but the corner's got to do a 440 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: little bit of work too. 441 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: If it's like you know, teams. 442 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: Are just throwing all over you, I mean, really, there's 443 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: nothing you can do about it. And again that's the 444 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: big difference between not Washington defense this year and last year. 445 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 2: Last year you weren't lighting them up through the air 446 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: and those guys were getting home. This year, it feels 447 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: like there's always receivers open, so quarterbacks don't have to 448 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 2: hold on to it too long. They can get rid 449 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: of it. If you're not getting home, they're gonna get 450 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: picked apart. And that's what's been happening. 451 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: Yep, I'm in agreeing with you. I like the over here. 452 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: Don't care that basically taking a Chiefs over sounds so 453 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: like Chalky or whatever. I'll take it out they get 454 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: they can't stop anybody. I think it's going to be 455 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 1: a shootout again in a game that they absolutely have 456 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: to win, and they win by putting up points. So 457 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: I agree with you there. I'm really interested, Benny, to 458 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: hear your opinion on my next pick, okay, because you 459 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: may hate it. I like it obviously because I'm picking it, 460 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: but you may hit it, so let me get through it. 461 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: Then after that, I want to hear this is the 462 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: Browns laying three to the Cardinals. No, this was two 463 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: and a half when it opens, so it's at three. That'snnoing, 464 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: there's actually a three and a half out there as 465 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking right now at Fox Bet, but at three 466 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to take it. Kind of a combination here 467 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: of me buying the Browns and selling the Cardinals. The 468 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: Browns are just a really, really impressive football team. Their 469 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: run game is awesome. As we know, Baker Mayfield had 470 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: that one terrible game against the Vikings, but overall he's 471 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: played pretty well. Defense is very good, maybe not quote elite, 472 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: but they are very very good. They're not that far 473 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: away from being five to zero, including that game against 474 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They lost against the Chargers in that heartbreaking fashion. 475 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: And conversely, I'm just selling the Cardinals a little bit. 476 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they were outplayed by the forty nine ers 477 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: last week in like many notable categories. They could have 478 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: lost that one. They should have lost that game to 479 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: the Vikings that were behind against the Jaguars. I know 480 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: it was a little fluky, but still they are due 481 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: for a letdown game, and this game in particular, feel 482 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: like it favors the Browns. Starting on Saturday in Cleveland, 483 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be horribly windy for like three straight days. 484 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be twenty to twenty five mile an 485 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: hour wins. What does that favor the run game, which 486 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: is all Cleveland wants to do, so I think that's 487 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: gonna be something good. The Cardinals have allowed five point 488 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: four yards per carry on the year. Cardinals have a 489 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: lot of injury concerns. They lost Max William obviously the 490 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: tight end. Now they have a million pass catchers, but 491 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: still that's something. Chandler Jones is likely out. He is 492 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: on the COVID nineteen list. And they lost their center 493 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson with the rib injuries. So they've got some 494 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: injuries that they're dealing with. Everything here screams the regression 495 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: to the mean for the Cardinals to me. The Browns 496 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: bouncing back from that tough loss again two and a 497 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: half earlier in the week. I liked it. I didn't 498 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: bet it. I should have. It's still at three right now. 499 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: I see one three and a half out there, so 500 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock it in before it gets there. I 501 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: will take the Browns at home Lang three. Benny, your 502 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: thoughts please. 503 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: Well, I mean you didn't even mention the fact that 504 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray's a little banged up as well. 505 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: That's true? 506 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely right, Yes, it's a throwing shoulder, which is 507 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: obviously gonna be a big deal for them. And I 508 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: mean he's been amazing this year, you know, no knock 509 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: on him whatsoever. He's been absolutely great for them so 510 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 2: far this season. But he wasn't that great last game. 511 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: And that's what you started seeing it there. You know, 512 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: this team had been putting up a lot more points 513 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: than they did in that last game. 514 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: And again, decent defense. 515 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say great defense, but a decent defense 516 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: they played last week and all that. So you would 517 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: expect a little bit less than you know, the stellar 518 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: performances you put. 519 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: Up against some of the weaker teams in the league. 520 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean there are there are quite a 521 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: few red flags here for the five and oh Arizona Cardinals, 522 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 2: which again I don't think many people thought the Cardinals, 523 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: including the Cardinals, who haven't done that in like thirty years, 524 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: started off a season five and oh, I think I 525 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: don't even know if they did it in like the 526 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 2: Kurt Order days when they were in there, you know, 527 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: at least in our lifetime when they were in their 528 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: kind of heyday right here. 529 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, I don't mind it at all. 530 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you know that Cleveland is gonna basically play 531 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: hard nos football. They're gonna play good defense, They're gonna 532 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: run the football down your throat as often as they can, 533 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: and when they throw, it's gonna be play action off 534 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 2: of those you know, off of those runs. So windy 535 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: day doesn't affect them anywhere near as much as it 536 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: effects a team like Arizona that would need to kind 537 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: of spread it out. So you got the weather on 538 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: your side, you got the injuries on your side, you 539 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: got Arizona having to travel to Cleveland for this game. 540 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: You got Cleveland being a little upset at, you know, 541 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: losing that game last week forty seven to forty two 542 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: in a game that they played very well against arguably 543 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: an even better defense than they're going to be facing here, 544 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: and they still hung up forty two points. So yep, 545 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: I mean, this Cleveland team is another one kind of 546 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 2: like the Bengals, where the offense is pretty good, the 547 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: defense is very good, and people were still under rating them. 548 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: Probably a better team than most people think when you 549 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 2: look at the Cleveland Browns here. 550 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 3: So I don't hate it. 551 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: I like it extremely well coached. I really like what 552 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: Stefanski's then obviously coach of the year last year, and yes, 553 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: totally spaced for whatever reason, even though I had factored 554 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: it in the Murray injury, which again he's gonna play fine, 555 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: But I do think that that did you know, impact 556 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: him last week against the fourty niners. He's a slight guy. 557 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: We saw him injured obviously last year. That really affects 558 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: his performance. So all the factors taken together, that might 559 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: be why the spread has moved up to three. I 560 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: like it, but I am locking it in now before 561 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: it moves. God passed again, Fox Bes already at three 562 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: and a half. All right, last pick, Benny, what do 563 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: you got? Yeah? 564 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: So I was hoping to get a little bit of 565 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: a better number on this game. I'm not gonna lie 566 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: to you, but I do think this is another situation 567 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: where it's one team that the books are still overvaluing 568 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: because of name brand recognition with the New England Patriots, 569 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: and one team that the books are undervaluing with the 570 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. The Dallas Cowboys being the only team that 571 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: is five and zero against the spread so far this year. Now, 572 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: I will say this based on the way my numbers 573 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: look and based on what I've seen the last couple 574 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: of weeks from the books, I do think the books 575 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: did actually make an adjustment to Dallas this week, So 576 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: I was expecting to get Dallas closer to like one 577 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: and a half two points. Right now I think it's 578 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: three and a half some places. I've even seen it 579 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: as four, you know, so it is kind of creeping 580 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: up there. But that doesn't really matter to me, to 581 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: be honest with you. The Patriots defense is not the 582 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: Patriots defense that was the one two or three years 583 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 2: ago that every but he was scared of. That was 584 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: like the super defense. And people keep pointing to oh, 585 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: look they shut down the Jets. 586 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 3: I am a Jets fan. That is not hard to do. Yeah, 587 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 3: it is not hard to do. 588 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: Like, if your best argument you could make to me it's, oh, 589 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: well look what they did to the Jets, I'm gonna 590 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: be like, yeah, so, like you know, my kids pop 591 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 2: order team can shut down the Jets. 592 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: I'm not worried about that whatsoever. 593 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: You know, this defense, if you look at them right now, 594 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: the Patriots are like middle of the pack, honestly, even 595 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: in the lower half of the league, and a lot 596 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: of categories that you look at overall and you look 597 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: at Dallas's offense right now. You know, I know Pro 598 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: Football Focus has them right that's the number one overall offense. 599 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: I know over at FTN, I think we have them 600 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 3: as number two or number three. 601 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: Every single projection system that you look at right now 602 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: has this Dallas offense. 603 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: As being near elite. 604 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: And then just look at what they've done in the 605 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: last couple of games, forty one points, thirty six points, 606 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: forty four points in the last three games. They're putting 607 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: up thirty four points on the season. Now, do I 608 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: think they get anywhere near thirty four against the Patriots? No, 609 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: the Patriots are gonna have a good game plan. The 610 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: Patriots defense, I'm not saying they suck. I'm just saying 611 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: they're not the. 612 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: Elite level defense that people used to look at them. 613 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: Ass They traded away Steven Gilmour, who is a major 614 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: piece of that team, and people don't realize when you 615 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: have a guy who could be a one on one 616 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: island shutdown corner, it allows your defense, especially a smart 617 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: guy like Belichick, to do a lot of other things 618 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: because you could just stick him out there and say, 619 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 2: all right, your job this game is to take away 620 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: Amari Cooper, and you know that that's going to happen, 621 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: and then you're playing ten on ten with everybody else 622 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to stop teams. When you 623 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: lose that guy, that's a big deal. Now you have 624 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: to make up for that fact because now you can't 625 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 2: just say we're taking away that side of the field 626 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: and you know, playing ten on ten on the other side. 627 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: Now they actually have to go out there and you know, 628 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: be an eleven man unit that actually goes and shuts 629 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 2: teams down, and so far this year they haven't been 630 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 2: able to do it. And then the other reason why 631 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: I like it, I think Dallas's defense is a little 632 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: better than people give them credit for, and I think 633 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: the Patriots offense is even worse. Patriots right now basically 634 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: only averaging nineteen points on that side of the ball. 635 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: So if Dallas can get to like twenty four, they 636 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: this number. I don't think they get to the thirty 637 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: four they've been averaging, but I think think it gets 638 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: twenty four. And if you can score twenty points against 639 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: the Patriots, you're gonna win because this team just can't score. 640 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: So I'm not going against you, but I'm not jumping 641 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: on the train. I don't know what it is, Benny, 642 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: So this is like not this is not great now. 643 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it out there. It's not great now 644 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: for me. I don't know what it is, and it 645 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: might just be my history. Of course, we're both Jets fans. 646 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: I live in New England, of understanding this spot for 647 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Now, obviously you want to talk about the defense. 648 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Davis Mills just totally lit you up right, 649 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: like that's not an offense that you're necessarily crad of. 650 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: Dallas has been home for three games, right, three straight games. 651 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: Now you're coming on the road. That's a spot generally historically, 652 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: doesn't you know, bode well for teams, at least as 653 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: against the spread. For sure. Mac Jones is not a 654 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: great quarterback or anything like that. He's been okay. He 655 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: really struggles with pressure. That's the one thing Dallas doesn't 656 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: really get. They don't get a tone of pressure on 657 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback. So I think I think their offense, the 658 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: Patriots can have some success here in this game. The 659 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: big question is whether or not their defense can shut 660 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: down what is basically an elite offense with Dallas and 661 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they can. I don't think they 662 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: could sew him down. I mean, even you admit you 663 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: don't expect this to be the you know, thirty eight 664 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: points or anything from the cap rights, like, you don't 665 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: expect this to be crazy at all. I just don't 666 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: have it. Again, I kind of felt like this different obviously, 667 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: and there were weather against the Bucks, but it strikes 668 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: me a little bit against the Bucks where I was like, 669 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: I don't see how you're gonna put up any points. 670 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: I don't see how your defense is going to possibly 671 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: hold them in check. There was no way. I felt 672 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: good about the Patriots in that game, and they came 673 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: out and they played extremely, extremely well. It strikes me 674 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: as it's going to be one of those games and 675 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be a close game. But again, this 676 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: is not great analysis bending because I don't I just 677 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: don't have it like here. It's just something that makes 678 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: me uncomfortable. 679 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: I've actually had this same discussion already once today with 680 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: my producer when we were talking about it on the 681 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: show earlier yeap, and basically what I said to him 682 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: is the Tampa Bay game literally required an act of God. 683 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: The weather was horrible in that game. It required an 684 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: act of God to slow them down. But on the 685 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 2: other side of it, you were right. They still only 686 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: scored seventeen points. This is a seventeen to twenty four 687 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: point a game offense. That's the best you're going to 688 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: get out of this new England team. 689 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 3: There's no explosive wide receivers. You know. 690 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: Again, they lost Damien Harris, not that he was I 691 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: don't think that that's a big deal. I think Rimandre 692 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: Stevenson can give you basically approximate what you got out 693 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: of out of Damian Harris. I think the bigger deal 694 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: was them losing James White a couple weeks ago because 695 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: Bolden being in there now and taking that role. 696 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 3: And I like Bolden. 697 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 2: I think he's a solid guy that could be on 698 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: the roster, but he's not the same upside that James 699 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: White was, so that only hurts their offense even more 700 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: right there. Like I said, my biggest problem here is 701 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: I don't think the Patriots can put up more than 702 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: twenty and I don't think the Patriots defense, which is 703 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: not as elite as they used to be, can keep 704 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 2: this elite because Dallas's offense is elite can keep this 705 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: elite Dallas offense under twenty. So I'm hoping I get 706 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: a twenty four, seventeen, even twenty four to twenty. 707 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 3: If you can get it out the three and a half, right, 708 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: it would work for me too. 709 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a three and a half everywhere pretty much again, 710 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: except for me. It's at three at DraftKings. Maybe a 711 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: little bit better. It's the little Patriots love there, I guess. 712 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think really the issue for me with 713 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys is not their offense whatsoever. It is I 714 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: don't have as much faith in their defense. I mean, 715 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs is great. Of course, they don't get a 716 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: ton of pressure. They've been built so much on this 717 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: insane turnover rate that they have. But again, this is 718 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: not the offense that can exploit that with the Cowboys, 719 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: right because they're just not explosive. So I feel you. 720 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: I really don't hate it. It's something though I can't 721 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: do it personally because again, I'm just scared. I'm a 722 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: scared man, and I don't mind that. I don't bet 723 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: games i'm afraid of, but I will bet a disgusting 724 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: game right now that we alluded to earlier it's a 725 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: line that has crossed zero, but doesn't really matter to me. 726 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: It's whatever side you want to be on, is the 727 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: side you're on. I'm going to take the Vikings laying 728 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: a point in a half right now to the Panthers. Again, 729 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: you mentioned it. I think it opened at the Panthers 730 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: laying a point or maybe laying a point to half 731 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: at some point. It's not cross but again, you and 732 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: I talked about it. That is a far less significant 733 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: move than going from two and a half to three 734 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: and a half or three to three and a half, 735 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: anything like that. I have a bit of an irrational 736 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: love for the Vikings and they have done nothing to 737 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: justify it whatsoever. I've only actually taken them on the 738 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: show once, it was against the Cardinals, and they did cover, 739 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: even though they wound up losing that game. This is 740 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: much more, though, of a fade of the Panthers. Things 741 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: look a lot different for the Panthers right now when 742 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: they're not facing the Jets or the Texans. And Benny, 743 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: you are a Jets fan. I am a Jets fan. 744 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: As we just said, we have watched mister Sam Darnold, 745 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: and I don't I'm glad Sam Darnold is out of 746 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: the Adam Gase threshold right now and able to have 747 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: some modicum of success. But one thing that I don't 748 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: really think was a product of Adam Gase was how 749 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold looked under pressure. I think that he is 750 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: not a great quarterback under pressure. We have seen it 751 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: in his career. We have seen it now with the Panthers, 752 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: and we certainly saw it last week against the Eagles. 753 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: They pressured him forty three percent of the time. And 754 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: the stats from Sunday against the Eagles when he got 755 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: rid of the ball under two and a half seconds, 756 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: he was eleven for eleven for seventy nine yards and 757 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: a touchdown. When he had it held on to the 758 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: ball for longer than two and a half seconds five 759 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: to seventeen with two interceptions. So Donald generally holds the 760 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: ball too long. That's kind of what he does two 761 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: point eight seconds on average. And again, the games that 762 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: he has won is against the Jets, against the Saints 763 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: that you know, we don't really know what the Saints 764 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: are yet, and against the text and now the Vikings 765 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: do have holes on their defense, but they get pressure 766 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: second in the NFL in pressure rate, Zimmer is a 767 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: good defensive coach. They might have CMC back here. I 768 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: guess they're supposed to. But again, yesterday Matt rules that 769 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: he was fifty to fifty. Who knows that will help Darnald, 770 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: But still I think we are basically starting to, you know, 771 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: look like what he's going to look like against a 772 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: legitimate defense. The Vikings have a good offense, they just 773 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 1: don't score a ton or anything like that. And Cousins 774 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: the Carolina gets a lot of pressure too, but Cousins 775 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: is much better under pressure. So I think this is 776 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: a close game. But I think the Vikings figure this 777 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: one out. I think the Panthers are having the balloon 778 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: burst a little bit with them, So I'm going to 779 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: take the Vikings laying a point a half to the Panthers. 780 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 781 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: One of the things I like to do every week 782 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: is look at teams that are underperforming and or overperforming 783 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: what they should be. And the Vikings are one of 784 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: those teams that you look at their you know, you 785 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: look at their grades by position, you look at the 786 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: guys on that offense, you look at even the defense, 787 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: which is supposed to be much improved from last year, 788 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: although it hasn't really looked much improved yet this year. 789 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: But that was the consensus coming into the season that 790 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: they were going to be much better here. So they 791 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: have played just nowhere near up to expectations this far. Now, again, 792 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: if you're somebody who believes in variants, maybe they just 793 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: had a couple of those down games, played a couple 794 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: better opponents the first couple of weeks, a couple of 795 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: the teams they played, our teams that are showing up 796 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 2: better than a lot of people thought they would. So 797 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: to start out two and three not the worst thing 798 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: in the world. And then you look in the other 799 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: side with Carolina, and you mentioned it. You know, Carolina 800 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: is three and on the season, but who have they 801 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: really beat? You know, that Saints game made everybody excited 802 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: in the second week because the Saints went. 803 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: Out in Week one and beat Green Bay. 804 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: But if Green Bay and New Orleans played again tomorrow, 805 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody in the world would think that 806 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: New Orleans should be favored in that game. Right now, 807 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: they just happened to run into a buzzsaw. Aaron Rodgers 808 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: had to touch the football in like four months. He 809 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: was still playing jeopardy and figuring out the answers and 810 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: all that stuff. So, I mean, I think people overrated 811 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: the Saints, which made them overrate Carolina for beating up 812 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: on the Saints. You know, I mean, I agree with 813 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: everything that you're saying here. Listen, the market moved for 814 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: a reason, right The market opened that way. The money 815 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: came in heavy, and that's why it moved from Carolina 816 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 2: being favored to Carolina being the underdog. 817 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: You know, whether or not it moved enough, it doesn't 818 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: really matter. When you're talking. 819 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: About one point yere one and a half points there, 820 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: anything under a field goal. 821 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 3: You still just picked the team that you like. On 822 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: either side there. 823 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: I would have liked you have taken Minnesota if you 824 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: really liked them on Sunday Monday when it was still 825 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: like plus one ten or you know, something like that. 826 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: But even now, I have no problem laying a one 827 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: and a half on that side. 828 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 2: I just think even though they haven't showed it yet, 829 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: I just think they're the better football team overall. 830 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and their defense to right, coming into the year, 831 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: people were kind of excited about them that they had 832 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: a lot of new faces, but the secondary hasn't played 833 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: as well as kind of we expected. Them to play necessarily. 834 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: But I do think they are a better team than 835 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: what they have showed right now, and their record could 836 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: be better. Obviously, they just you know, they almost won 837 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: against the Cardinals. They probably should have won that game. 838 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: So it is something where I think they're a little 839 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: bit of a better team. And again it's largely a 840 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: fade at the Panthers at this point. Who again we 841 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: as you mentioned it, their strength of the you know, 842 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: opponents who they have beaten is not impressive. All right, 843 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: So let's recap very quickly. You were taking the Chiefs 844 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: and the Washington football team. I'm going to give you 845 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: fifty four and a half. That's like this line over 846 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: fifty four and a half, the Bengals laying three and 847 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: a half to the Lions, and the Cowboys laying three 848 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: and a half to the Pats. I am taking the 849 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: Browns laying three to the Cardinals, the Bengals and the 850 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: Lions under forty seven and a half, and the Vikings 851 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: now laying one and a half to the Panthers. You're 852 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: ready to run through very quickly all the remaining spreads. 853 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 854 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: Let's do it. London game, really exciting one here, the 855 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: Dolphins laying three to the Jaguars. 856 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 3: What do you think I'm gonna go? 857 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 2: My number is actually a little below three, but it's 858 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: still Miami being favored. I think it's like two and 859 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 2: a half or so, So I'll take the Miami side 860 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: of that game. 861 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 3: I just don't want to be on the Jacksonville side. 862 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: That's the correct answer, which is probably like Jacksonville like there, 863 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: maybe there's some value on Jacksonville, but you just can't 864 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: do it right, there's under no sus right, you just 865 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: can't do it. I completely agree with you. Chargers are 866 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: visiting the Ravens. I think this was the Ravens saying 867 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: three when I looked early in the week. But right 868 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: now it's down to two and a half. There is 869 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: still three out there at FanDuel at points bet, but 870 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: the consensus line Ravens laying two and a half to 871 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: the Chargers in Baltimore. 872 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, my number was actually Baltimore minus four, So if 873 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 2: I could get it at the two and a half now, 874 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 2: I would definitely be on the Baltimore side of it. Again, 875 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 2: to me, that one and a half points right there 876 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: is worth a lot more more than the one or 877 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: two points that we saw the move in the other game, 878 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 2: so I thought it should be Baltimore minus four. 879 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a great game. 880 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't be shocked if the Chargers wound up 881 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: winning this, But Baltimore seems to be able. They win ugly, 882 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: but they win, right and at the end of the day, 883 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: you are what your record says you are. And you 884 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: know they got a good record because they come through 885 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: and they win those close games. 886 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 3: So I think Baltimore wins a close one at two 887 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 3: and a half. I would be on the Baltimore side. 888 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: I think they cover. 889 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked the Chargers getting the three. I don't 890 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: like them under the field goal. 891 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 3: I don't know. 892 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned because I don't know what we're 893 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: gonna see here from the Ravens off that game, right, 894 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: that is an emotionally draining game. That's you know, they're 895 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: on a short week, so I just I'm a little 896 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: concerned with what we're gonna see. I'm just I'm gonna 897 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: stay away. I'm just gonna watch it completely. But if 898 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: it was three, I kind of like the Chargers because 899 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm really god, I love I love the coaching staff, 900 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: I love the way the team is playing, so I 901 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: do love them. The Colts are laying ten to the 902 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: Texans right here at home? 903 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 3: What do you think too many? For me? I thought 904 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 3: it should be eight. 905 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 2: So again, I'm not games like this, like I don't 906 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: want to. I'm not actually betting the Houston signe. Like 907 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 2: I said at the beginning show, we don't have to 908 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: bet every game. But if we're playing in a pool 909 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: here and you got to pick a side, I think 910 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 2: ten is too many points. 911 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 3: I think the Colts are gonna win. I just think 912 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: it's too many points. 913 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: I agree, I'm not betting it. I agree with you, 914 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: but ten points, really, I mean, given the fact like 915 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: how exhausted they are, how much their spirit was broken 916 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: on Monday, how decimated their secondary is, the Texans are 917 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: a little better than people have kind of given them 918 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: credit for, like throughout the season, ten is too many. 919 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: At the same time, I'm with you, Like if I'm 920 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: in a pool and I have to bet it, I'm 921 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: going with the Colts. I mean, I do not have to. 922 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 3: Bet Colt survivor pick by all means, if you got survivor, 923 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 3: I got no problem with it. But I don't want 924 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 3: to lay ten with them. Yeah. 925 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: How about the Packers visiting the Bears. The Packers are 926 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: laying five right now. There's four and a half five, 927 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 1: five and a half actually out there at Fox Bet, 928 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: but five is the consensus. What do you think? 929 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: How are the Chicago Bears three and two? I have 930 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 3: no idea how the sea was three and two. 931 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: The offense is horrible, the deep is not as good 932 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 2: as they have no idea how they've. 933 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 3: Got the three and two. I thought this numbers should 934 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 3: have been bigger. 935 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be like if you're in 936 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: one of those you know, like circa millions or something 937 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 2: like that. 938 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be the. 939 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: Most picked game of the week. I think everybody's on 940 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 2: the green Bay side. I know we are as well. 941 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 2: That was one of our circle picks. So I'm going 942 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 2: with green Bay in this one. 943 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 3: No problem with that. 944 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: How about the Rams visiting the Giants. They're laying consensus 945 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: is nine and a half. It bounces back and forth 946 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: between nine a half and ten. We obviously have, you know, 947 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: eighteen thousand question marks right now about the Giants. We 948 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: don't even know if Daniel Jones is going to be 949 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: up for this game, So I don't know if you 950 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: can even touch it right now, but what do you think? 951 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, for the fact that there's all those 952 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 2: question marks and I actually thought it should be double digits. Anyway, 953 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: I would be on the Rams side of this, but 954 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: again it's it's not a game i'm betting on. Again, 955 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 2: laying ten points is a lot of points. People don't 956 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 2: realize that's a lot of points. But I do think 957 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 2: the Rams could cover because the Giants right now, assuming 958 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: that even half of these guys are out. 959 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 3: They're gonna be playing with like a skeleton squad. Kadarius 960 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 3: I hear Kadarius Tony might be playing. 961 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 2: Quarterback this week, which since I heard that, I was like, 962 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 2: all right, I'll lay the ten in that game. 963 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean, and they might be better. Who knows I have. 964 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: I can only get it at ten here drafting, so 965 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't get it, but I would take it at 966 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: nine and a half because again, the Rams are off 967 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: the mini by they shouldn't look to make a statement here, 968 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: and the Giants are just in disarray at this point, 969 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: regardless of who plays. You mentioned the total in this one. 970 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: How about the side the Chiefs are visiting Washington and 971 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: they're laying six and a half. 972 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 973 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 2: I the Chiefs are like one in four against the 974 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 2: spread this year, and it's because the defense is so 975 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: bad that you know, you always feel like the other 976 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: team is going to score. At the end of the game, 977 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 2: you feel like the Chiefs are going to score too, 978 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 2: and it really comes down to who has it last. 979 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 2: But if you're forcing me to take a side here, 980 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 2: I'll take Kansas City, but I'm not betting it. I 981 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable with it. 982 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: What worries me a little about this game, Benny, is 983 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: that this is a please tease this game down to 984 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: half a point, which makes me a little worried about 985 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: what we're going to see here in this game, right 986 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: that this like this has got to be one of 987 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: the legs and everybody's two teams teas there this week. 988 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 3: It is. 989 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: It's gonna be in mind too. I don't care if 990 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: the trap doesn't matter to be, it's got to be, 991 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: which makes me just a little concerned about it. So 992 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: it's a stay away from me again. You mentioned the 993 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: Chiefs just they I mean, they haven't been winning obviously, 994 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: but they never cover if forced to take a side, 995 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: I agree like it should be the Chiefs in this 996 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: game under a touchdown, but man, this is day. I 997 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: just that number makes me very, very nervous because it 998 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: seems like they're like, we know what's gonna happen and 999 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: we're okay with it. 1000 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, last year they were this way and so far 1001 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 2: to start this year it's been the same way as 1002 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 2: they win a lot, well not this year, but last 1003 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 2: year they won a lot, but they. 1004 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 3: Didn't cover a lot. This year they're not winning or covering, 1005 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 3: which always makes me nervous. 1006 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 2: But at the same point in time, like if you're 1007 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 2: asking me, that's the side I want to take, you know, 1008 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 2: if I had to, But man, it just it hasn't 1009 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 2: worked out well. The variants has to swing at some point, right, Like, Yeah, 1010 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 2: it's too good for it not to be. 1011 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: You and I take the over. We'll tease it down, 1012 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: We'll be fine. Raiders are visiting the Broncos. Broncos here 1013 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 1: are length three and a half. I have no idea 1014 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: what happens with the Gruden stuff, Like, I don't know 1015 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: what the impact is of it on this team, So 1016 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: what do you think? 1017 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I try to go by that. I try not 1018 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 3: to use narratives here. 1019 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 2: Maybe they come out with their hair on fire and 1020 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 2: you want to prove to everybody that they're gonna be 1021 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 2: better without John Gruden or something. But just based right 1022 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 2: on the numbers, Denver's the side I want to be on. 1023 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 2: I would have liked it at minus three, but I 1024 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 2: would even lay the three and a half there because 1025 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,240 Speaker 2: that's the side I feel more confident. 1026 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: Again, this is one of them that I'm just I 1027 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: felt like a lot of the lines are tight right 1028 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: now and it's not one that I want to go after. 1029 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: If I do pick a side, it would be Denver. 1030 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: Who I will I will generally if there's a tiebreaker, 1031 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: if I'm unsure, if I have to bet it, I 1032 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: will always lean the Broncos at home, particularly early in 1033 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: the season. But still it's a good line. It's the 1034 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 1: right line and something that I'm staying away from. Forced 1035 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: to choose, I would take the Broncos. This is one 1036 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: where I wish it was a little lower because it 1037 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 1: might have been one of my picks. But the consensus 1038 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: Ligne right now is the Steelers are laying five and 1039 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: a half to the Russell Wilson less Seahawks on Sunday, night, 1040 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 1: Well in Pittsburgh five and a half, what do you think? 1041 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the problem with this game this week is 1042 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 2: you have to figure out how many points Russell Wilson 1043 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 2: is worth to the Seahawks side. My number came out 1044 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 2: to just shy of seven. I think it was like 1045 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: six and three quarters or something like that. So I 1046 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 2: think that this game should actually be Pittsburgh closer to 1047 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 2: six and a half. So minus five, I'd still be 1048 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 2: willing to take it there because you got to also 1049 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 2: factor in that all these other weapons are going to 1050 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 2: be decreased without oh Wilson. Oh, so you know, it 1051 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 2: hurts DK, it hurts Tyler, it hurts everybody on that 1052 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 2: entire team right now. And again another former Jet quarterback, 1053 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 2: Gino Smith going out there. 1054 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: So you and I love it, Yeah, I mean we've 1055 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 1: seen him enough. That's the thing that he played very 1056 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: very well in relief last week, like surprisingly well. I 1057 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: was very impressed. But it is a much much different 1058 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: story when you pop in in relief in a game 1059 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: by the way that you're down and it's a negative 1060 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: game script anyway, but when nobody has prepared for you whatsoever, 1061 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: and then you pop off a couple of good throws 1062 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: and everything like that. That's a much different story than when 1063 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: you give a team a week to say, Okay, you 1064 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: know Smith as the starting quarterback, let's plan our defensive 1065 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 1: game plan around this. I agree with you. This is 1066 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: the spot you hate back in the Steelers in right, 1067 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: you hate back in the Steelers when they are home favorites. 1068 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: You want to back them in their road underdogs, and 1069 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: Tomlin can get them all coached up. But still I 1070 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: completely agree with you, Like there's no way. And again, 1071 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: they look better last weekend. Like I was surprised with 1072 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: how cohesive their offense looked, especially the run game. And 1073 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 1: you know, their offensive line looked better. Whether it looked 1074 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: like more of a change in the scheme than it 1075 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: was suddenly them improving and everything like that, but the 1076 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: offense did look better. The defense is still solid. With 1077 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: Gino going, I think it really hurts Tyler Lockett for sure. 1078 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I will take the Steelers, even 1079 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: though it's five and a half. It's a little nerve wracking, 1080 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: but I will take them. Last game here Monday Night football, 1081 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: the Bills are visiting the Titans. Titans are getting five 1082 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: and a half points. What about this one. 1083 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 2: I mean, I have Buffalo as the number one team 1084 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 2: right now in my power rankings. 1085 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 3: This opened lower than this. 1086 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 2: This opened that like three and a half, four and 1087 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 2: a half on a lot of sites somewhere in that range. 1088 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 2: So my number was five and a half, which is 1089 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 2: what it has come up to right now. So again, 1090 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 2: if I didn't have to bet, I wouldn't be on it. 1091 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 2: But I will stick with the Buffalo side. Like I said, 1092 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 2: number one team in my power rankings right now. The 1093 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 2: defense is just elite and the offense is good enough 1094 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 2: to put up The offense is good enough to put up. 1095 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 3: A lot of points. 1096 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 2: You got an elite defense and an offense I could 1097 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 2: put up a lot of points. You're gonna win a 1098 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 2: hell of a lot of football games. 1099 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm taking. I'm not betting on 1100 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: it again. I've told you only though what I bet. 1101 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: But I think I take the Titans. First of all, 1102 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: I expect Julio Jones to play in this one. I 1103 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: think this is the game he comes back and you 1104 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: returned to practice yesterday. I don't know about today yet, 1105 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: but obviously it wasn't placed on my r. This is 1106 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: Game three. They're at home. It's a big spot. I 1107 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: could see a little bit of a letdown here for 1108 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: the Bills after coming off that giant win. But it's 1109 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: a tough game and it's five and a half. It's 1110 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: like a dead number. What do you want to do 1111 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: with it? But I think I'll just take the points 1112 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: here with the Titans. It forced too if I were 1113 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 1: in a pool, which I'm not. Benny, I really enjoyed 1114 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: talking to you. I'm glad you came on the show. 1115 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: Remind everybody you do fantastic work. Remind everybody where they 1116 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 1: can check it out. 1117 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,720 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, you could always follow me over on Twitter 1118 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 2: at Benny R eleven. You can catch me there or 1119 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 2: anything going on at the FTN network. My fingerprints are 1120 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 2: on it, either in front of or behind the scenes 1121 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 2: one or the other day. 1122 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 1: All right, we'll keep crashing it over there in the meantime, 1123 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 1: enjoy your football this week, and everybody, we'll be back 1124 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: as always on Monday talking about our early reaction to 1125 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 1: the Week seven NFL lines. I will talk to you then,