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Speaker 1: then we turn our attention to a great hour two
Speaker 1: pole question, shall we.
Speaker 2: Let's say we got up there right now a quarterback
Speaker 2: that had the worst weekend, Justin Herbert Jordan love Baker
Speaker 2: Mayfield right now, Justin Herbert absolutely running away with it seventy,
Speaker 2: not even close. It's tough to say Baker Mayfield had
Speaker 2: a bad weekend because he had such a good year.
Speaker 2: Only you have one bad weekend on a year that
Speaker 2: you completely like resurrected your career, It's gonna be tough.
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert had a bad weekend on what seems to
Speaker 2: be a year's worth of every other bad weekend.
Speaker 1: Well, as I've said before, Arizona basketball and charge Your football,
Speaker 1: they're very similar. I get my hopes up and then
Speaker 1: Arizona number one seed, and then they the Chargers. This
Speaker 1: is the year, and I didn't have high expectations for
Speaker 1: them this year. Now, I do believe in Harball and
Speaker 1: I think Herbert can be a top ten quarterback. But
Speaker 1: that's two playoff appearances where you were the quarterback on
Speaker 1: the team that blew a twenty seven point lead and
Speaker 1: you were also the quarterback who threw four interceptions. You know,
Speaker 1: there's criticism that comes his way. It feels like we
Speaker 1: in the media want him to be a great quarterback.
Speaker 1: He gets commercials, he looks good, he's got a big
Speaker 1: arm talent, he playing for Harball, he's in LA. But
Speaker 1: you got to produce. It's just like Lamar Jackson. You know,
Speaker 1: he gets the vitriol because you're a two time MVP,
Speaker 1: probably a three time MVP, you have to do more
Speaker 1: in the postseason. Dak Prescott gets more criticism than any
Speaker 1: other quarterback, but he quarterbacks the Dallas Cowboys. You know
Speaker 1: that when you go in you sign up for that,
Speaker 1: that's what you're going to get. Baker Mayfield, that's a
Speaker 1: bad fumble. He did have a great year and he
Speaker 1: has resurrected his career. Russell Wilson, did he do enough?
Speaker 1: And if you're a Steeler fan, do you go do
Speaker 1: we want Russell Wilson because he did just enough. Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 1: I don't think is going anywhere now. Once again, there
Speaker 1: is a different perception of Mike Tomlin locally as opposed
Speaker 1: to nationally because nationally. You'll hear the analysts say he
Speaker 1: could run a Fortune five hundred company, and maybe could
Speaker 1: I want him to run the Pittsburgh Steelers. They haven't
Speaker 1: won playoff games at some point, you, as pat Riley
Speaker 1: found out or the Lakers found out, you kind of
Speaker 1: wear out your welcome, like your players kind of tune
Speaker 1: you out. But it feels like there's more turnover in
Speaker 1: the NFL as opposed to with the Lakers, where you
Speaker 1: have thirteen players. But I don't know if that's the case.
Speaker 1: The Steelers usually give their coaches twenty years, which is
Speaker 1: remarkable when you think, well, we'll just have Chuck Knowle
Speaker 1: and then you know, well Bill Cower and then web
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. Does the next coach get twenty years? But
Speaker 1: did Russell Wilson do enough? Here's Mike Tomlin on that topic.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not ready to, you know, take a
Speaker 3: big picture approach. You know, I'm really assessing what happened today.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: Certainly, I'm appreciative of their efforts tonight, but I could
Speaker 3: say that largely for the entire season, there are two
Speaker 3: quality people, three quality people at the quarterback position, man,
Speaker 3: And I really appreciate what they poured into this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think he was going to tip his
Speaker 1: hand there, And you know, I think you've got to
Speaker 1: survey the situation. Do you want to maybe kick the
Speaker 1: tires on Aaron Rodgers? Do you want to kick the
Speaker 1: tires on Sam Darnald? Do you want to stay with
Speaker 1: what you have? Because if I look at Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: what's he going to cost me? Not as much as
Speaker 1: what Aaron Rodgers is going to or Sam Darnold.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, I want to turn this around and look
Speaker 5: at it. From Russell Wilson's standpoint, he may not have
Speaker 5: a lot of options other than the Steelers to take
Speaker 5: over a franchise or be in charge of a franchise.
Speaker 5: He was basically paid for the Broncos to play for
Speaker 5: the Steelers this year, So he's an incredible bargain. If
Speaker 5: you were Russell, would you be ultra friendly to the
Speaker 5: Steelers so you keep your job?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know what other
Speaker 1: options alternatives he's going to. You know, are the Raiders
Speaker 1: going to go, hey, let's go get Russ. Raiders need
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I mean you can go down the list.
Speaker 1: There's you know, five or six teams that need a quarterback,
Speaker 1: but you're not going to have those opportunities to get
Speaker 1: a really good quarterback. So maybe it's Sam Darnold, maybe
Speaker 1: it's Russell Wilson. But if I'm Ross, I need to
Speaker 1: have the situation that is comfortable for me. But I
Speaker 1: also need to know are the Steelers going to get
Speaker 1: me some offensive weapons? There is George Picken is going
Speaker 1: to stay, which I don't see that happening. All right,
Speaker 1: Dave in Arkansas? Hi, Dave, what's on your mind?
Speaker 6: They called me Pittsburgh Dave, and I need to be
Speaker 6: talked off the ledge. I have my prized Zubaz Steelers
Speaker 6: collection here. I've done laundry this weekend. I've got a
Speaker 6: can of wider fluid. I've got gasoline, I've got kerosene.
Speaker 6: I've got plutonium ready to blow this up. Please help me, Dan.
Speaker 6: The only good thing that happened this weekend we got
Speaker 6: ten inches of snow here. We don't get that too
Speaker 6: often down here, so we hadn't. But then that cost
Speaker 6: me a new car battery. I don't know what to do, Dan.
Speaker 6: That was the worst half of football I had ever
Speaker 6: seen in my life. And I'm going back here, Mark
Speaker 6: Malone and Bubby Brister and David Woodley and Jim Miller.
Speaker 6: That was horrible.
Speaker 7: What do I do?
Speaker 8: Dan?
Speaker 6: I can't give this up, but uugh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the expectation level that you have instead of
Speaker 1: going in and going, hey, I'm just happy we made
Speaker 1: the postseason. Let's hopefully get some answers here and then
Speaker 1: you make the postseason. I think you have more questions
Speaker 1: than you do answers because, as Ross Tucker said last Tower,
Speaker 1: to see the Ravens do that to a Steeler defense
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. It shouldn't happen, but it did, and
Speaker 1: then you're wondering they can't outscore people, so the defense
Speaker 1: has to hold you to under twenty one points. That's
Speaker 1: a tough recipe. But give credit to the Ravens because
Speaker 1: maybe the Ravens finally figured out what should be our
Speaker 1: postseason game plan because in previous years I didn't think
Speaker 1: they had one that they were sold on. We'll get
Speaker 1: to more phone calls. Poll question for hour two is
Speaker 1: going to be what seedon?
Speaker 2: Yes, we previewed this one just a little earlier, but
Speaker 2: losing NFL team from this weekend that should feel the
Speaker 2: goodest about their future. Okay, so you have the Broncos, Buccaneers,
Speaker 2: Charger Packers, Steelers, a lot of teams right there.
Speaker 1: Should feel good, I think. All right, so these are
Speaker 1: the teams that lost.
Speaker 2: Correct, these are the teams that lost this weekend, but
Speaker 2: should still feel pretty good about their future.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm going to echo what Ross Tucker said.
Speaker 1: Green Bay is the second youngest team in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Had some injuries there, but you know, you're the division
Speaker 1: is going to stay really competitive. I mean, the Bears
Speaker 1: are gonna I always say this every year, They're going
Speaker 1: to eventually figure this out. They might like the odds
Speaker 1: are you'll eventually figure it out. If the Commanders figured
Speaker 1: it out, then the Bears should be able to figure
Speaker 1: it out. But Detroit is going to be formidable again
Speaker 1: next year. And the Vikings, even if they don't keep
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, you two, you still have two really good
Speaker 1: wide receivers and a good defense, great head coach, maybe
Speaker 1: it's JJ McCarthy. So if you factor that in, you know,
Speaker 1: you still have to sledding there. Tampa Bay in the South,
Speaker 1: you know, I keep waiting for Atlanta to be better
Speaker 1: than what they are and maybe they're never going to be.
Speaker 1: But Baker they seem to have found. He's been a
Speaker 1: great leader for them, and he put up really good
Speaker 1: numbers there as well. Can you keep cashing in, you
Speaker 1: know on your wide receiving corps. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if Mike Evans is going to continue to be
Speaker 1: Mike Evans and get you a thousand yards because he
Speaker 1: is a great bailout guy. You know, when you think
Speaker 1: about go back to Johnny Manziel, He's one of the
Speaker 1: great bailout wide receivers of all time. Like all else fails,
Speaker 1: just throw it up, Michael, go get it. Let's see
Speaker 1: who else would be in there. So you got Green Bay,
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Harball figured out and I do believe that
Speaker 1: he'll he'll figure out a way. Well, I think he
Speaker 1: did figure out a way to make Justin Herbert more economical,
Speaker 1: and that's what we thought. He was going to three interceptions,
Speaker 1: you know, through the entire regular season, and then you
Speaker 1: had four yesterday. But you know he's gonna have defense,
Speaker 1: the offensive line will get better. They have to have
Speaker 1: wide receivers. We kept saying, who's he going to throw
Speaker 1: it to? So I would have confidence in the Chargers. Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 5: My pick, weirdly would have been the Broncos. They got
Speaker 5: bo Nicks. I think he was the sixth quarterback taken
Speaker 5: in the first round, and he's working out almost as
Speaker 5: good as anybody. If you take out Jayden and Daniels
Speaker 5: rookie deal, if you look at where they were a
Speaker 5: year ago at the quarterback situation, it's it's fixed. They
Speaker 5: fixed it in one year. I would feel really good.
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes is only twenty nine. That hurts, but otherwise
Speaker 5: I'd feel really good.
Speaker 1: So we'll call him both fix both fix oo fix.
Speaker 1: What do you like? You're thinking you're okay with that time?
Speaker 9: I think it's okay. I think the Packers in Denver
Speaker 9: are neck and neck.
Speaker 8: They're the first and second youngest of all the playoff
Speaker 8: teams going forward, and they both have to deal with
Speaker 8: tough teams in their division.
Speaker 9: They seem very neck and neck.
Speaker 1: Thank you to Yeah, Green Bay is the youngest team.
Speaker 1: Then it's the Broncos. Then it's the Ram How are
Speaker 1: the Rams with Matthew Stafford in there? Maybe that's just it.
Speaker 1: They got one old guy. Then it's the Buccaneers. Then
Speaker 1: it's the Chargers, the Chiefs with Travis kelce on there.
Speaker 1: Then you have the Ravens Texans lines. So all these
Speaker 1: playoff teams, for the most part, they're good and they're young.
Speaker 1: David Ohio leads us off best and worst of the weekend. Hi, David,
Speaker 1: Hey Dan.
Speaker 6: Good morning.
Speaker 7: Worst of the weekend, Steelers losing to the Ravens again.
Speaker 7: I just I don't know what to do as a
Speaker 7: Steelers fan of been a fan since I was as
Speaker 7: long as I could remember. I got all the trivia
Speaker 7: for you on that the last time the Steelers won
Speaker 7: a playoff game was eight years ago, and I got
Speaker 7: what was the song that was the top Billboard charts
Speaker 7: in two thousand and seventeen. Mark might be able to
Speaker 7: answer this.
Speaker 10: Okay, I need a hint.
Speaker 11: You got a hint there for him, David, Uh, he's
Speaker 11: got a he's got red hair, and he's got a
Speaker 11: he's a pretty good looking.
Speaker 1: I would say, oh, pretty good. Look. I was gonna
Speaker 1: go ed Sheira, I did.
Speaker 7: Dan edge here in shafe of you.
Speaker 1: And got good looking.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: My wife likes him and she said he's pretty good looking.
Speaker 1: So okay, Well, there's hope for all of us Dan.
Speaker 11: I had one more question for Fritzy. I don't know
Speaker 11: if y'all saw it, but Bill Vinovich went to uh
Speaker 11: Josh Allen on the sidelines and.
Speaker 1: Was talking to him.
Speaker 11: I don't really know what was about, but I want
Speaker 11: to get maybe Fritzy's sake on that.
Speaker 1: Okay, the referee went over and talked to Josh Allen
Speaker 1: on the sideline.
Speaker 9: I was curious too.
Speaker 8: I did some looking after the game, and I guess
Speaker 8: it didn't get into details or quotes or anything, but
Speaker 8: it said he was trying to calm it down. I
Speaker 8: don't think there was any admittance that we blew the
Speaker 8: call or anything, but that's what the ref supposedly said
Speaker 8: to him, that he was trying to calm Josh Allen down,
Speaker 8: who was very riled up.
Speaker 9: Its well, I saw anyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how often that happens, that an
Speaker 1: official will go to a player and say, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, and you go on to the sidelines.
Speaker 1: That feels like it's out of the side of your mouth.
Speaker 1: It's like, Josh, calm it down, I'm gonna flag you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like, you know, we probably get one
Speaker 2: one thousandth of the times that referees talk to players,
Speaker 2: and when we get the video it's.
Speaker 1: Like whoa whoa little home cooking. It looks like, no,
Speaker 1: they talk to each other all the time.
Speaker 2: They probably talk to each other throughout the entire day,
Speaker 2: but there's just a handful of moments that it bubbles
Speaker 2: up into a huge controversy when really it's not anything.
Speaker 1: Well, I think because it was on the sidelines. I
Speaker 1: think that if it happens on the field, you could
Speaker 1: walk up to somebody and say it in a way
Speaker 1: that it's still in the course of a game. It
Speaker 1: felt like he was going over to the sidelines, and
Speaker 1: then therefore it was singled out. But you're right, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they say all the time, hey, wash your hands.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been court sided with NBA games and
Speaker 1: you'll hear an official say something to somebody like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it next time, like you got to nope,
Speaker 1: don't push off, yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 5: So it was after a non defensive holding penalty call,
Speaker 5: and it was a TV timeout, which when the playoffs,
Speaker 5: you could tack an extra minute onto all the commercial breaks,
Speaker 5: so there's more time for things like this to happen.
Speaker 5: But the cameras did pick up the very end of it,
Speaker 5: and the ref kind of puts his hand or his
Speaker 5: heart like an apology move, and he pats him on
Speaker 5: the helmet. So, if you're reading body language, you think, wow,
Speaker 5: it appears that he's saying sorry to Josh Allen about something.
Speaker 5: We don't know what they were actually saying.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I took it as less of a warning and more
Speaker 8: of a we may have missed something there, like let's
Speaker 8: move on and let's continue playing.
Speaker 6: You do.
Speaker 1: Of course, I thought that he was just saying, hey, Josh,
Speaker 1: do you realized how crappy Denver is?
Speaker 9: Okay?
Speaker 1: Second half?
Speaker 9: Man, you guys have had the ball like every second.
Speaker 1: Of this game, Like, yeah, hey Josh, come here, do
Speaker 1: you realize how crappy the Bronco uniforms are? Man, I've
Speaker 1: been laughing an all game long here, silly orange pants. Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: that cost you cost you dearly. You ever heard of Clemson? Yeah,
Speaker 1: yess they never won anything. That's what my mentions are
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Although I did get I did get one guy from
Speaker 2: Tennessee say you know you're actually right, and he went
Speaker 2: back through like different moments in Tennessee when we won this,
Speaker 2: white pants, won this white pants.
Speaker 1: We never won anything in Orange. Okay, yes, Paul, quickly
Speaker 1: before we break Fritzy.
Speaker 5: Would you have preferred a close game, painful loss, or
Speaker 5: a blowout?
Speaker 1: What kind of guy are you?
Speaker 9: In that instance?
Speaker 8: I would say, I'm glad if they were going to
Speaker 8: lose to No sooner than later. If that would have
Speaker 8: come down to the last minute or so and they
Speaker 8: would have blew it, that would have been much more
Speaker 8: heart breaking. Give me more time to accept the fact
Speaker 8: that there was going to be no next week game
Speaker 8: against Kens.
Speaker 2: You Seaton, would I rather get blown out or be competitive?
Speaker 2: I'd rather be competitive every single day than get blown out.
Speaker 1: What about you, Marvin?
Speaker 10: For the Broncos blow out, You'd rather.
Speaker 1: Be blown out in the first half, be done?
Speaker 10: I said for the Broncos, all right.
Speaker 2: Why would that well, why would it be better for
Speaker 2: the Broncos than others?
Speaker 1: What if the Niners were Oh, that's right, they didn't
Speaker 1: make it. This is like me. Would you rather make
Speaker 1: the playoffs or not make the playoffs? I'd rather not
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. That just shows it is even better.
Speaker 1: Like what, Marvin, would you rather that the Niners were
Speaker 1: blown out or that they had a competitive game and
Speaker 1: they lost dramatically and a suit we were talking about
Speaker 1: the Broncos though, I know, but but why you don't
Speaker 1: care about the Broncos. No, at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, we can reflect great season. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to find a silver lining for Fretzi's Broncos. I
Speaker 1: don't care either way, really silver lining. No, you want
Speaker 1: to you got to be competitive. I want I want
Speaker 1: to have a chance at winning instead of like, I'd
Speaker 1: rather be a Texas fan that you almost had a
Speaker 1: chance to win that game.
Speaker 8: Yes, ton If Denver was winning twenty three seventeen with
Speaker 8: forty six seconds left, and I watched Josh Allen march
Speaker 8: downfield and then in the final seconds he throws a
Speaker 8: touchdown pass that would have devastated me more than the
Speaker 8: fact of the way the second half played at As
Speaker 8: disappointed as I was.
Speaker 1: I don't get that. I don't I want my team
Speaker 1: to be competitive and we have a chance. Let me
Speaker 1: take a break, Well revisit this. We'll give you our
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Speaker 1: We will give you our best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll play fill in the blank and more
Speaker 1: of your phone calls as well. Hall of Famer Tony
Speaker 1: Dungee Football Night in America analysts joining us up on
Speaker 1: the program. Good to see you, ton The philosophy of
Speaker 1: a coach going into the playoffs? Are you more aggressive
Speaker 1: or more conservative? Does it change up in the playoffs
Speaker 1: as opposed to what you did during the regular season.
Speaker 14: For me, I always tried to be myself and be
Speaker 14: who we are and try not to let it change you.
Speaker 4: But it was very interesting. We had the Commanders last night.
Speaker 14: I talked to Dan Quinn before the game and he said,
Speaker 14: I have to be more aggressive, and he did.
Speaker 4: They went forward on fourth down a couple.
Speaker 14: Times went forth when I would have kicked field goals myself.
Speaker 14: But he definitely made it a point to be more
Speaker 14: aggressive and let's go try to win this game.
Speaker 1: What do you see from Jadon Daniels that is not.
Speaker 14: Normal, unbelievable poise for a twenty two year old or
Speaker 14: twenty three year old whatever he is, to come into
Speaker 14: those big moments and be able to just function like
Speaker 14: nothing else is going on. I was talking to Todd
Speaker 14: Bowles and the defensive coaches before the game that we've
Speaker 14: got to get the ball out of this guy's hands,
Speaker 14: because when he has it, he makes things happen.
Speaker 4: And they couldn't do that.
Speaker 14: They blitzed, they played coverages, they did different things. He
Speaker 14: kept the ball, he made great decisions, and that's just
Speaker 14: beyond those years for however he does it.
Speaker 1: I'm not ZERI, but when you're drafting somebody, you can
Speaker 1: look at changible items. I can watch you at the combine,
Speaker 1: I can see things on tape. Poise is something that
Speaker 1: I don't know how you measure it or what you
Speaker 1: look for when you're trying to find out if somebody
Speaker 1: has it or doesn't.
Speaker 14: That is the key thing, too, especially with quarterbacks. Everybody
Speaker 14: wants to look at arm strength, they want to look
Speaker 14: at all these measurables, and it's really can you process
Speaker 14: information and then can you function in the big moments
Speaker 14: just like its practice. And that's what this young man
Speaker 14: has done all year. They're winning all these close games.
Speaker 14: At the end, he's making the plays to win it.
Speaker 14: And that's what you can't measure. That's what you don't
Speaker 14: know until you get them.
Speaker 1: The team that lost over the weekend, that's in the
Speaker 1: best shape moving forward.
Speaker 14: You never think you're in good safe when you lose,
Speaker 14: you also at a couple of plays you could have made.
Speaker 1: But you know, run down the list here, Okay, I
Speaker 1: said the Chargers, Steelers, Broncos, Packers, Buccaneers. Out of those teams,
Speaker 1: who is in the best position moving forward for success?
Speaker 14: I'd have to go with the Broncos because I like
Speaker 14: their young quarterback.
Speaker 4: I think they have belief in him.
Speaker 14: They've got a defense that is a playmaking unit, that's aggressive,
Speaker 14: and I think they're going to keep all of those
Speaker 14: elements in place for a while.
Speaker 4: Some of these other teams have some.
Speaker 14: Of the elements, they're going to lose some of them.
Speaker 14: They've got to make decisions. I think the Broncos going
Speaker 14: forward are on the up too.
Speaker 1: If you ran the Steelers, what would you do moving forward?
Speaker 14: I would try to find the long term answer quarterback
Speaker 14: and build around that.
Speaker 4: And I thought the move to give Russell Wilson was.
Speaker 14: Really good, and in the middle of the year it
Speaker 14: looked like a very good move. But somewhere something is
Speaker 14: just missing and they've got to find that quarterback and
Speaker 14: build on it.
Speaker 4: And I don't know where that comes from. I really don't.
Speaker 14: Dan.
Speaker 1: Do you think did you see enough from Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: that he would hold on to this John?
Speaker 14: I think he could. But then again, what are you
Speaker 14: looking at? Are you looking at another year? Another two years?
Speaker 14: I'd like to get that guy that I can build
Speaker 14: with for the next seven or eight years. But I again,
Speaker 14: I just don't know how you do that. They're not
Speaker 14: picking high enough to get that in the draft. Can
Speaker 14: you go out and find one of these younger, twenty
Speaker 14: eight thirty year old quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: I just don't know.
Speaker 14: He might be the best answer for the short term.
Speaker 1: What do you think of Aaron Rodgers with the Steelers?
Speaker 14: I again, that would be a short term answer. I
Speaker 14: don't think that's a good one. I would if I'm
Speaker 14: going to do that, I'd stay with Russell Wilson. I've
Speaker 14: already had a chance to see that for one year.
Speaker 4: Build on that.
Speaker 14: But I don't know, maybe justin fields and maybe they've
Speaker 14: seen enough in him to say, hey, he could be
Speaker 14: the answer down the road.
Speaker 4: I'm just not sure.
Speaker 1: If you start to look at these games, you know,
Speaker 1: as we move, if I gave you the Lions or
Speaker 1: the field in the NFCA, who are you taking.
Speaker 14: I'm probably taking the Lions. But it's going to come
Speaker 14: down to the Lions in Philadelphia. In my opinion, they're
Speaker 14: on a collision course. Philadelphia has this monstrous defense that
Speaker 14: can really shut people down. Detroit has looked unstoppable on offense.
Speaker 14: They're putting up thirty every week. I don't think they're
Speaker 14: going to put up thirty on Philadelphia. So the question
Speaker 14: is is Phillies offense can it generate enough.
Speaker 4: In the big moments.
Speaker 14: That's gonna be a great game, and I think that's
Speaker 14: what we're gonna end up seeing.
Speaker 1: All Right, I'll give you the Chiefs or the field
Speaker 1: in the AFC.
Speaker 14: Oh guess I'd have to take the field because I
Speaker 14: think Baltimore can do some damage. I think Buffalo is
Speaker 14: a problem for Kansas City. The negative for those two teams,
Speaker 14: They've got to play each other, and they're gonna knock
Speaker 14: each other out and wear each other down. I think
Speaker 14: Baltimore has a great shot to win this game in Buffalo.
Speaker 14: Not many teams I would pick to go in there
Speaker 14: and win it. But they've got the physicality, they've got
Speaker 14: the mentality. If Lamar zacks and can play his regular
Speaker 14: season game up there in a big moment, they're gonna
Speaker 14: be tough to deal with it.
Speaker 1: It's Tony Dungee, the Hall of Famer. Tony won a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl as a player and as a coach. As
Speaker 1: a defensive back, who was that running back that you
Speaker 1: knew it was going to hurt when you had to tackle,
Speaker 1: like these defensive backs who have to go against Derrick Henry.
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 14: It reminds me of DP Earl And I can remember
Speaker 14: our DVS talking to that front forehead. You guys are
Speaker 14: supposed to be the steel curtain. You better show up today.
Speaker 14: We do not want to see that man coming through
Speaker 14: the secondary.
Speaker 4: He was. You did not want to see him with
Speaker 4: a fullhead of singing.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. He would just take on and guys
Speaker 1: would go up top with him and try to I
Speaker 1: just want to trip you up. I don't want to
Speaker 1: try to be a man and go up. I'm making
Speaker 1: a business decision. With Earl Campbell, Yes.
Speaker 14: He ran over Isaiah Robertson. You probably remember the player.
Speaker 14: He his head down and just blew him up. And
Speaker 14: what he wouldn't offer. Our defensive coordinator was going to
Speaker 14: run it back and make a point and Lambert.
Speaker 4: Said, don't run that back.
Speaker 1: How different are the Ravens with Derrick Henry?
Speaker 14: They're different because of the mentality. I think that's what
Speaker 14: they want to be, that's what they should be. But
Speaker 14: now with Henry, they feel like they can be that
Speaker 14: no matter where they are, home or away, no matter.
Speaker 4: What the score is.
Speaker 14: And the thing about it, and one of the reasons
Speaker 14: I actually voted for Lamar Jackson as the most valuable
Speaker 14: player is you watch and they get in that zone
Speaker 14: read and he hands it off, and you'll have defenders
Speaker 14: that won't even chase Dereck Henry because they've got.
Speaker 4: To watch Lamar. And if I was.
Speaker 14: A defensive back, I'd be sitting there saying, hey, go
Speaker 14: tackle that big man.
Speaker 4: We'll do with Lamar, you better go tackle Henry.
Speaker 14: But it's just that double edged sword where you've got
Speaker 14: to defend the whole field. You've got to watch Lamar
Speaker 14: keeping the ball, and then Henry gets those downhill runs
Speaker 14: when they get that going there, super tough. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had somebody tell me that when this person votes
Speaker 1: for the MVP and said, you know, I thought Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson made Derrick Henry better if you look at what
Speaker 1: he was like with Tennessee. They got him and anybody
Speaker 1: else could have gotten Derrick Henry. But you got to
Speaker 1: give Lamar credit because you focus on Lamar and it
Speaker 1: allowed Derrick Henry to be a star again.
Speaker 14: Yeah, sometimes it's just that perfect storm, the right person
Speaker 14: fitting in. I think Derrick Henry went to the absolute
Speaker 14: best system for him. Sakwan Barkley, you could say the
Speaker 14: same thing. Okay, you've got a big offensive line, it's
Speaker 14: creating holes. You've got a quarterback that keeps the defense
Speaker 14: honest and they have to defend him.
Speaker 4: And now you've got a two thousand yard back.
Speaker 14: And I think both of those guys just hit the
Speaker 14: perfect system to showcase their talents.
Speaker 1: Any issues with the Patriots hiring Mike Vrabel.
Speaker 4: No, I love them hiring Mike Brabel.
Speaker 14: What I didn't like was them firing girod Mayo in
Speaker 14: one year. When you sit there and say we've got
Speaker 14: a succession plan. We know that eventually Bill Belichick is
Speaker 14: going to leave, and it's all set up. We've got
Speaker 14: this young guy, he knows us, we know him. We're
Speaker 14: gonna build this way, and then after twelve games or
Speaker 14: fourteen games, you make a decision to terminate it. It
Speaker 14: doesn't make sense to me. I've told you and I've
Speaker 14: had this discussion before. Chuck noele one in thirteen his
Speaker 14: first year, Tom Landry won one game his first year.
Speaker 14: I played on Bill Waltsh's first team. We won two games. Okay,
Speaker 14: that's about nine or ten super Bowls there that wouldn't
Speaker 14: have happened in this era of this.
Speaker 4: Well, if you don't get it done in one year
Speaker 4: and turn it around.
Speaker 14: Dan Rooney, I remember him telling me, I knew I
Speaker 14: had the right person when we're one and thirteen.
Speaker 4: That's when I knew Chuck Nole was the real deal.
Speaker 14: And that's you know, I get so mad that these
Speaker 14: owners don't be impatient. You can't build Rome in a day,
Speaker 14: and especially when Rome's been torn down. So I'm just
Speaker 14: a little frustrated with the Raiders. I'm a little frustrated
Speaker 14: with the Patriots right now. Let things play out. Give
Speaker 14: these young guys a chance.
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots realized they never should have promised
Speaker 1: Girod Mayo the job, even though they put it in
Speaker 1: his contract, and therefore they were going to they had
Speaker 1: to let him coach one year. I think they wanted
Speaker 1: Vrabel last year, but they were tied up with this contract.
Speaker 14: Mail maybe that was the case. And Mike, Mike Griebel
Speaker 14: is a proven winner. He's been there, he knows them,
Speaker 14: they know him. It makes logical sense, and he's going
Speaker 14: to do a great job. But I just see these
Speaker 14: one and Done's just bugged me to death because I
Speaker 14: remember my first year Dan with the Bucks. We had
Speaker 14: had thirteenth straight losing seasons. I come in, we're zero
Speaker 14: to five and everybody in town is center.
Speaker 4: We're worse off than we've ever been. And the owners
Speaker 4: took me to lunch and.
Speaker 14: Said, hey, this is not a six week project, it's
Speaker 14: not a nine month project.
Speaker 4: We're in this together.
Speaker 14: Well, the next year we're ten and six and in
Speaker 14: the playoffs, and it just that's the kind of support
Speaker 14: you need.
Speaker 1: Did you think you were being asked to go to
Speaker 1: lunch to get fired.
Speaker 4: I did, I really did.
Speaker 14: When they said, hey, we need to talk to you
Speaker 14: and they're in business suits, I was Okay, this might
Speaker 14: not be good. But they surprised me and said, hey,
Speaker 14: we understand and we're in it, and don't panic. Don't
Speaker 14: worry about these next few weeks. We end up being
Speaker 14: one and eight before we turned it around. But they were.
Speaker 14: They were perfect, and that's what you need.
Speaker 1: Tell me why now this came up with the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: They didn't bring in Jim Harball for an interview, they
Speaker 1: didn't bring in Bill Belichick for an interview. Why wouldn't
Speaker 1: you bring in great you know, football minds like that
Speaker 1: to tell you what they think of your franchise, So
Speaker 1: you would gather information when you come in. So why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you do something like that? That's for you get
Speaker 1: advice for free.
Speaker 4: You could.
Speaker 14: But here's here's what I think is a big problem
Speaker 14: in the hiring process. A lot of these owners do
Speaker 14: not know what they're looking for. I know I've consulted
Speaker 14: with some and ask him what are they looking for?
Speaker 4: And they just well, who's good out there?
Speaker 14: And tell tell me this Dan Rooney to me, it
Speaker 14: was the perfect, perfect formul Okay, I know what I want.
Speaker 14: I want a young, thirtiest guy because I don't want
Speaker 14: to do this every five years. So I don't want
Speaker 14: to hire a fifty year old. I don't want to
Speaker 14: hire a seventy year old. It's going to be a
Speaker 14: young guy. We're a blue collar town, okay, we're built
Speaker 14: around defense. I want hardcore defensive coach, and I want
Speaker 14: a good communicator.
Speaker 4: I want a teacher.
Speaker 14: So in sixty years, he hires thirty something year old
Speaker 14: Chuck Nole, a very good communicator, defensive.
Speaker 4: Mind, strong will.
Speaker 14: Then he goes and hires Bill Kauer in his thirties,
Speaker 14: defensive coach, strong will, communicator. Then he hires Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 14: He doesn't go interview everybody because I don't want the
Speaker 14: next thing from the outer space. I want a defensive mind,
Speaker 14: a tough young coach. So if you know what you're
Speaker 14: looking for, then you go get that. Now, if you
Speaker 14: don't know what you're looking for, then you've got to
Speaker 14: talk to everybody that comes across, everybody who's recommended to you.
Speaker 14: But my advice to these guys, figure out what you want,
Speaker 14: what works for you, okay, and then go find it.
Speaker 1: Is it just good enough to make the playoffs in
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh with Mike Tomlin or does he have to win?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a long time since they won
Speaker 1: a playoff game.
Speaker 14: It has been a while, and you do have to win,
Speaker 14: and eventually you've got to come into the playoffs hot.
Speaker 14: You've got to build this and you've got to win
Speaker 14: a couple of games in the playoffs. And the last
Speaker 14: three or four years has been very disappointing. I thought
Speaker 14: in mid season they had a team to do it,
Speaker 14: but something happened and the defense just didn't play the
Speaker 14: way that they can play down the stretch. And I
Speaker 14: know ownership's disappointed, the city's disappointed.
Speaker 4: They've got to figure out a way to win a
Speaker 4: playoff game.
Speaker 1: But you don't move on from Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 14: Let me ask this, who am I going to get
Speaker 14: this better? And that's the thing that's going to go
Speaker 14: through our room. Okay, I could move on from Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 14: What's my next plan? And when you look around out there,
Speaker 14: there's no guarantees that you're going to get somebody who
Speaker 14: knows your organization, who can build this and do it
Speaker 14: any better, So I think that's what's going through their
Speaker 14: mind right now.
Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, coach, as always, Thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us, safe child.
Speaker 4: Right always, Good to talk to you, brother.
Speaker 1: That's Tony Dungee, Hall of Famer. We'll take a break.
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Speaker 1: results from hour two? By the way, the Steelers have
Speaker 1: trailed by at least twenty one points in six consecutive
Speaker 1: playoff games. That's the longest such streak in NFL history.
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Speaker 2: Losing NFL team from this weekend that should feel the
Speaker 2: goodest about their future right now? With about forty two
Speaker 2: percent of that vote is the Broncos. Do you want
Speaker 2: to guess who should feel the least goodest about their future?
Speaker 1: Non bestest? That's the non bestest, the Steelers. Correct the Steelers.
Speaker 1: They have two six of that vote. That's correct. The
Speaker 1: all right time to play Phil in the blank, fill
Speaker 1: in the blank, I will give you like. Ohio State
Speaker 1: football is blank, Marvin rejuvenated, oh Paul Ohio State football
Speaker 1: is blank vulnerable ish. They were close to losing that game,
Speaker 1: more close than is being discussed, Todd.
Speaker 9: Ohio State football is dame good.
Speaker 1: Because they're playing not the thing again. Okay, dam it
Speaker 1: uh Seaton. Ohio State football is in for a world
Speaker 1: of pain when they.
Speaker 10: Run into the RS.
Speaker 1: When they here come the Urs.
Speaker 10: And they're gonna beat them. There a lot of hyphens,
Speaker 10: a lot of hyphen one word.
Speaker 1: Ohio State football is back. Marcus Freeman should blank the NFL.
Speaker 1: He should blank the heck out of the NFL.
Speaker 5: To put it in perspective, there's a couple of different
Speaker 5: stories out there that a number of teams are considering
Speaker 5: interviewing him or pursuing him.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Paulie, Marcus Freeman should blank the NFL.
Speaker 8: Ignore Todd, Marcus Freeman should say notre to the NFL,
Speaker 8: Oh Todd.
Speaker 1: You know they were good at the end of the week,
Speaker 1: not at the beginning of the week. You know, when
Speaker 1: you when you wear me down, then there they seem
Speaker 1: to be a little funnier. Just say Seaton, Marcus Freeman
Speaker 1: should blank the NFL. Pump the brakes in the NFL,
Speaker 1: e Marvin.
Speaker 10: Marvin, Marcus Freeman should stiff arm the NFL.
Speaker 1: Okay, I would say Marcus Freeman should blank the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's thirty nine. I don't know what his
Speaker 1: goals are, but seems to have that presence on the sidelines,
Speaker 1: and you know that's what you're looking for. Is he
Speaker 1: a culture guy. He's done a great job at Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: But he might say I need more experience because you
Speaker 1: don't want to go in and go you know, maybe
Speaker 1: I need a little more seasoning. And he just saw
Speaker 1: what happened with Antonio Pears and drawed Mayo where you're
Speaker 1: one and done. Mike Brabel's tenure tenure with the Patriots
Speaker 1: will be blank. Paul refreshing.
Speaker 5: He'll be better with the media than the guy two
Speaker 5: guys ago. Okay, that's not saying anything I know, but
Speaker 5: that's why it's refreshing.
Speaker 1: My dog is better with the media than Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: Whey Todd. Mike rabels stay in New England will be blank.
Speaker 9: Joe, let's go. I'm very pumped about Mike Raebel go to.
Speaker 1: New itand Seaton. His tenure will be uneven. Marvin Rabel's
Speaker 1: tenure will be fruitful, fruitful. Mike Brabel's tenure in New
Speaker 1: England will be better than Mayo.
Speaker 5: Justin Herbert is blank, Paul tear dropping, tear dropping.
Speaker 1: That's not crying, that's not t e a r. It's
Speaker 1: a bit of a double entendre.
Speaker 5: He is no longer in the best five quarterbacks in
Speaker 5: the NFL conversation odd.
Speaker 8: Justin Herbert is picky as in four of them.
Speaker 1: No, I got it, old words, yeah, seatan ofughly confident.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is who he we thought he was, who
Speaker 1: he we thought that he was.
Speaker 10: Marvin Justin Herbert is mid mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is nice.
Speaker 5: The Steelers future is blank, Paul groundhowg daish Todd.
Speaker 9: The Steelers future is the pits.
Speaker 1: Berg seatan now I got it, Todd, I got once again?
Speaker 1: If you have to explain it unwritten, Yes, that is true,
Speaker 1: all right, Marvin. The Steelers future is uncertain. The yes,
Speaker 1: Steeler's future is rusty.
Speaker 9: Let me see what I did with that?
Speaker 1: I know I got. The Bills being a running team
Speaker 1: is blank. Paul Ringworthy, Okay, Todd an Orchard perk.
Speaker 8: It's a compliment, Josh Alice passic play at Orchard Park.
Speaker 1: These you're so bad, Seaton.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 2: Bill's being a running team is they're Josh stall In,
Speaker 2: Josh stall In on running the ball.
Speaker 10: Marvin Bill's being a running team is trendy.
Speaker 1: Oh I like that. Yeah, I would second that the
Speaker 1: Bill's running team is on brand. Jadeen Daniel's rookie year
Speaker 1: has been blank. Paul spotless, M Todd commanding Did you
Speaker 1: just take you took Marvin's?
Speaker 4: I wish my eyeside?
Speaker 9: Is that good to see what he's got written over there?
Speaker 1: My laptop commanding Washington Commanding command Modern Seaton. Jaden Daniels'
Speaker 1: rookie year has been playing wash and stride. Uh, Marvin,
Speaker 1: do you have a plan being Oh, you're you're protesting
Speaker 1: the Todd took yours eleven come on eleven.
Speaker 9: There's a mini path going out there the federal.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels' rookie season has been MVP ish MBPSH. Just saying,
Speaker 1: you talk about change of culture, coaches, you know, get
Speaker 1: credit for changing a culture. That's a player who changed culture.
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels changed the commanders. You got hope. Final hour
Speaker 1: on the way that's filling the blank coming up. We
Speaker 1: will give you our best and worst of the weekend,
Speaker 1: and you write the headline tonight's game. You'll write it
Speaker 1: today