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Speaker 2: Alright, manx go. Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We got an incredible guest, one of the best quarters

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League from the New England Patriots,

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Speaker 2: Christian Gonzales. Appreciate you joining me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Anytime, anytime. Well, I got a lot of questions. Obviously

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Speaker 2: some great games. Talk to me through your rookie year

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Speaker 2: Did you expect to go there where you did? Did

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Speaker 5: The whole draft process was it was crazy. It was surreal,

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Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, it happened for a reason.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was it was a blessing to be

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Speaker 2: No question, no question. I think it's they just don't

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Speaker 2: and it's just it's just wild. So I don't think

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Speaker 2: because Belichick has a I mean, he got a feel

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Speaker 2: When you left Colorado, you know, you played really good

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Speaker 4: It was really my dB coach, Demetris Mark.

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Speaker 5: He he left Colorado and went to Oregon, and you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the whole the whole defense. You know, it's it's

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Speaker 2: When you're coming out of high school? What what what

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Speaker 2: So what is your favorite thing. You've been in New

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Speaker 5: He was the first person I found, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Pat is the class of the NFL right now. I

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Speaker 5: Uh, you know, one of my my biggest goals I

436
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 5: made was not even like a stat or anything like that.

437
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,879
Speaker 5: It was really just go have fun. Going into my

438
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 5: rookie year, I was all right, I gotta I want

439
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 5: to do this, I want to do this, and then

440
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 5: I got hurt. So I mean that was that was

441
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 5: the first time my career ever got hurt. Uh oh wow,

442
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 5: first time since Little league that I ever you know,

443
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 5: missed the game. So, I mean it was definitely a change.

444
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 5: Sitting in this offseason and just thinking it was, you know,

445
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 5: coming to this season, I was more like, okay, like,

446
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 5: let me enjoy the moment, let me enjoy that, Like

447
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 5: I get to play football for for my work. So

448
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 5: something as small as that, you know, it sounds cliche,

449
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 5: but that was That's kind of My biggest goal is

450
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 5: just you know, go out there, don't take it for granted,

451
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 5: and just have fun.

452
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 4: End the day I playing at the kids game for work.

453
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. Took It took me a while to

454
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: get back to that. And my playing career is just

455
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: because you get so locked in, you know, in the ground.

456
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 2: You're like day to day like I gotta cover this,

457
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 2: I gotta do this, I gotta do this, you gotta

458
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: do this. You're like, hey, I gotta cover this, dude.

459
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: And people don't understand how high anxiety playing corner is.

460
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: This is a high anxiety position, not because not because

461
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 2: we ain't confident, we don't think we could do it,

462
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 2: just because it takes one play to ruin your damn day.

463
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I gotta. I got a lot of respect

464
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 2: for everything you've done, uh and and who you are

465
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: as a person as a corner. I love your tech

466
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: and I love the comparison between certain because that's exactly

467
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 2: how who you are. You do a great job from off,

468
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 2: you do a great job from press. You're a technician

469
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 2: within your tech, within y'all scheme. It's really cool to

470
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: watch what did you do different? You know, because Obviously,

471
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: last year was your rookie year, so you're all season

472
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: going different, you know, chicking with your head cut off,

473
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 2: going crazy. This is your first off season as a pro.

474
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 2: How did you spend it?

475
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 4: I definitely took time to be with my family.

476
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, like you said that that jump from from

477
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 5: college from you know, you play your last college game

478
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 5: and then it's you know, you have maybe I think

479
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 5: I had like three days before I left for combine training,

480
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 5: So I mean you don't really get that time and

481
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 5: that you go from there all the way to season

482
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 5: and then finally get that break.

483
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 4: But I mean, you know, Mike came earlier than expected.

484
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 5: But you know I was able to, you know, get

485
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 5: back with my family and you know, just mentally get better,

486
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 5: breathe and take time to hang out.

487
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 4: Then. But then I also was able to study the

488
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 4: game a lot more and learn more.

489
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 5: So you know, I feel like I have a a

490
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 5: good perspective as as as from a defensive mind, which

491
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 5: I mean there's still so much I can learn, but

492
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 5: I was able to learn more from the offensive sidey

493
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 5: And like one thing Belichick always talked about. He would

494
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 5: always ask us, like, who who's the offensive coordinator?

495
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 4: And my rookie year.

496
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 5: I'm like, like, at first I didn't under like understand, like,

497
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,239
Speaker 5: all right, he's offensive coordinator. Okay, so what But now

498
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 5: it's like in the obeason, I was able to learn, like, okay,

499
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator, he came from this tree.

500
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 4: They did this.

501
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 5: They like to attack a corner like me this way.

502
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 5: So I mean that type of thing I was able

503
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 5: to pick up on this offseason.

504
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 2: Bro your your mouths and light years ahead of a

505
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: lot of other people. And then you're you're you have

506
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: the talent, you have the body, you have everything, you need,

507
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: all the tools. But that part of the game, the

508
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: sooner and the better you can grasp that, Oh my god,

509
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 2: it's gonna be such an easier game because it's gonna

510
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: be you're gonna have your notebook and you're gonna be like,

511
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 2: is this Coyle Shanahan tree?

512
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 4: Is this?

513
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: Wait? Is this that spread tree? Is this West Coast?

514
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 2: Or is this that tight West coast?

515
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 4: Like?

516
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: Hey, where did he come from? Was he an assistant? O? Okay?

517
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 2: So I see I see, I see it. They're gonna

518
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: be outside zone, mid zone. They're gonna they're gonna run

519
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: these crossers. They're gonna be condensed. They're gonna run spray

520
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: outs and spray posts, and okay, who's their quarterback? This

521
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: is what he liked, because the receiver at that point

522
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. That's why a guy who ran four or

523
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: five and and had really suspect backpedal could sit there

524
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: and get forty one interceptions and lead the league in

525
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: a lot of his years and be leaked. Because I

526
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: don't really care about none of that stuff. All I

527
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: care about is the scheme. I care about the plays.

528
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 2: Can I recognize the formations? Can I recognize the emotions

529
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: and diagnose them within a few seconds? That was my superpower.

530
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 2: Superpower wasn't running four three. I could jump pretty high,

531
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,479
Speaker 2: but and I can catch the football. But I started

532
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: the game that way I started. That was my freaking

533
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 2: from the beginning. That was all I thought about. I

534
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: was like, Hey, if I can recognize the plays in

535
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: the scheme, the receiver won't matter. I'm going against Calvin.

536
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 2: But he got to run a go route, he got

537
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: to run a post, he got to run a curl

538
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: so and I just got to beat him to the ball.

539
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: That's knowledge. That's knowledge. Well, you got any questions for me?

540
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know, make this all about you.

541
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: If you got anything you want to ask me, what.

542
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 4: Would you say, you know, like, welcome to the NFL movement.

543
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 2: Plus that's that's that's a great question. It was we

544
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: played Cincinnati Bengals. I got my first it was my

545
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: first start, and I'm playing AJ Green. AJ was top

546
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 2: five and you know, I'm fifth round. And so they're like,

547
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: oh man, this rookie is about to get cooked by

548
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: AJ Green. He's about to probably go for one point fifty.

549
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: And I got an interception, like a couple drives into

550
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: the game. So I'm talking cash. Yeah, I'm feeling good.

551
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: I you know, yeah, got I got got it off

552
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: my chest. And then I'm playing cover three. I'm guarding

553
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: one receiver deep and he runs me off and we're

554
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: running cover three and they throw the ball to the

555
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: full back in the flat and our buzz defender, our

556
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 2: backer didn't get out there, Like I don't know what

557
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: he was doing. He was he blitzing, not paying attention.

558
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: But it's just sixty yards between me and him, right,

559
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: And so I'm I'm like, damn. So I turn around.

560
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: I'm running full speed, full speed, and I'm like, all right,

561
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna chop him down. I'm just gonnachop him down.

562
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: When I get there, I'm just gonna hit him in

563
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: his knee and his play's gonna be over. I get there,

564
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: I go down to his knee. I don't know what

565
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: kind of flexibility training this man was doing, but he

566
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: got his helmet down there where I was, and yeah,

567
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: I remember getting up and I saw half of me

568
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: was black and white and half of me was color.

569
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh shit, oh it's different, it's different.

570
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 2: But it was my first start, so I wasn't going out.

571
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: I told my teammates, give me up, give me up,

572
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 2: just get me back to the I was no welcome.

573
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: It was not fun. But from a receiver standpoint, this

574
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: guy named Brandon Lloyd Boy, his releases were like that.

575
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 2: You know, he's not a famous receiver that nobody really

576
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: you know, talks about, but if you look him up,

577
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: you'll find he was one of them. He played for

578
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: New England for a little while, but he just was

579
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: out there, him and Larry Fitzgerald. Larry Fitzgerald gave me

580
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: another welcome to the fell moment, grabbed me by the

581
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: back of my head on the release, he like released

582
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: and then grabbed me by the back of my head

583
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: and pulled me through and then caught caught the past

584
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: two steps later. It's wow, right, yeah he was. He

585
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: betted me. What else you got?

586
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 4: What's what's something you got for me? What's a like

587
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 4: a tip or or anything?

588
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: A lot of it is stuff you you've been already

589
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: talking about, just studying concepts, studying route tree, studying, like

590
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: I don't you play receiver, and so you know that

591
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: a lot of concepts are married. And I'm sure the

592
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: Patriots do a good job of schooling y'all on you know,

593
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: slat flat. You know two to the flat means ones

594
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: coming in most of the time, and stuff like that,

595
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: and and ovs or or all these combinations. But what

596
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: I tell you is something. It sounds like you got

597
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: a good grasp on too. And in the off season

598
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: you got us have a second, you know, whether it's

599
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: two weeks, three weeks to step away from the game

600
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: and reset your brain. It's too it's too stressful of

601
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: a position when we play. It's too it's too. You're

602
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: too tight all the time, you know, we we you

603
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: got to be that way. It's how you got to

604
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: be wired to play corner at a high level in

605
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: this league. But you got to take the time to

606
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: take a deep breath, sit on the beach somewhere with

607
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: your family, connect, you know, think about something other than football,

608
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: and then go dive right back into it and take

609
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 2: care of your body. Spend money and spend time taking

610
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: care of your body. It's totally worth it. Get the massages,

611
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: get the get the you know, game readies or norma

612
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: texts or whatever. You you got to spend the money

613
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: on your body. That's necessary because it's always worth it. Yeah,

614
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: you're you're You're a great corner. So I don't want

615
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: to talk to you like like I talk to other people.

616
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 2: But just treat the two imposters the same. Never let

617
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: nobody get you out your game. Never let a bad

618
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: play get you down. Like it's always a good play

619
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: right behind it. It's always a good play hiding right

620
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: right in the near future if you can get your

621
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: mind around getting there, you know, and uh, be a

622
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: great teammate. Always be a great teammate. I think championships

623
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: are won by by teams not just because they're the

624
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: most talented team, but because they they care about one another.

625
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: They hold each other accountable and with love and respect,

626
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: and they elevate each other, they encourage one another. You know,

627
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: it's something to be said. You talked about your relationship

628
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: with Keon and how you guys always talk like it's

629
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: something to be said about being in an adversity and

630
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: chaos and a guy having a tough day and somebody

631
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: being in their form and being like, bro, hey, hey,

632
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: I know how I know you care more than that.

633
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: I know you didn't mean to do that, like, hey,

634
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: we got this, we got you back, Like there's something

635
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: to be said about that. And I think I don't

636
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: think we win a super Bowl and I don't think

637
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: we're as great of a defense if we're not doing

638
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: that every single day, and it comes from every angle.

639
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's not just one guy doing it, it's

640
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: ten other guys that feel the same way. And you

641
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: know you I give up a catch and I'm like, bro,

642
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: that was the first down, Like, but of course I

643
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: didn't mean to give the catch up. I'm trying my best,

644
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: and I don't look over and see my teammates like

645
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, Earl coming up to

646
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: me like they better be lucky that one who there.

647
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: Lucky you get picked out, you know, and that and

648
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: that just raises the level of the team and raised

649
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Speaker 2: the confidence, you know, because not everybody, not everybody's you,

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Speaker 2: and not everybody's going into the game no matter how

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Speaker 2: they look as confident as you are and as as

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Speaker 2: you know, ready to play, and sometimes you giving them

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Speaker 2: that reassurance stabilizes they ship. Like that might be the

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Speaker 2: reason they have a good game because they were sitting

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Speaker 2: there like, man, I don't know about today, you know,

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Speaker 2: and now you came up to them like, hey, bro,

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Speaker 2: I see you. I see you've been working. You know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, Let's go, let's get them. And then

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Speaker 2: in the game you're like, bro, I see you working.

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Speaker 2: I see that was a heck of a play.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 2: You have no idea how how far that goes, right,

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate that. That's right, all love, all love, Well.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you joining me. I know, I notice your

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Speaker 2: off day, and I don't want to hold you up

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Speaker 2: too much. You know, I know you got other things

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Speaker 2: to do. If you don't mind, I want to have

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Speaker 2: you on later in the year, you know, when you

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Speaker 2: get you a few more books, so we could talk

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Speaker 2: about it. Oh yeah, I love Yes, Sir, I appreciate

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Speaker 2: you brother. Say hello to the family. All love be

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Speaker 2: Sted Sir. The volume