WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Signs Of Progress? 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:09.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:20.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:23.880 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:35.480 Star in Frisco. And now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:43.400 My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's. It's a Tuesday 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.959 edition of Talking Cowboys here from the virtual s WBC 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.680 Mortgage Studios as we break down what happened on Sunday 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.680 against the Cincinnati Bengals, and then we start looking ahead 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.760 to where the San Francisco forty nine ers come to town. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.840 It's a fans on the fifty Tuesday, So send in 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.200 your fan questions right now in the periscope stream or 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.120 you can go and tweet at us as well. But 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:12.240 it's Hech, Harrison and Isaiah stand back alongside myself, Kyle Yeomen's, 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.160 Ron Phillips, which join us here in just a minute 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.319 whenever he's done doing his big time duties of talking 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.759 to one oh five three the fan and the boys 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.160 of Sean and RJ. But guys, how are we doing today? 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.960 Are we Are we still reeling after the win on Sunday? 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.560 Are we already looking ahead to what the San Francisco 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:33.119 forty nine Ers present. Mister Isaiah, stand back, I'm looking 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.399 forward to the forty nine ers, sir. I mean the 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.400 winds are in the past. Uh, it's already completed. Let's 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.600 figure out what the heck we're gonna do next. That's 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:45.119 such a coach answer, such a such a coach answer. Well, 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:47.560 then then I'm on the whole of the end of that. 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:55.400 I'm still basking in the after glow of the victory, asking, yes, hey, 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:59.559 we've only had four of these victory Mondays. I'm gonna 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.040 turn it to victory Tuesday. I'm gonna hold on to 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.920 this feeling as long as I possibly can. It just 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.400 felt good, man, It felt good to see our team 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.959 get a win. And you know, guys play up to 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.960 where they felt like they needed to be at this 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.160 point in the season. And I don't know if you 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.320 guys saw. I mean, there's so much happening with the 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.799 Cowboys right now, and I'm sure you're gonna hit this. 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:22.320 So I don't want to get ahead of you, because 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.359 that's what I do. Maskoyle, Yeah, yeah, I mean you 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.320 do it all the time, but I love it. But 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.040 I mean, there's plenty to talk about whenever he comes 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.520 to the last couple of days because of what Stephen 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.639 Jones said yesterday on one HI five three The Fan, 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.919 and then what Jerry Jones said today. And I kind 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:39.840 of want to get into what Jerry said today, and 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.760 he basically doubled down and he backed up Mike McCarthy 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.440 and he said it would be crazy. His actual word 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:49.960 was ridiculous on what he would end up or ridiculous 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.560 to even think that Mike McCarthy would not be here 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.400 in twenty twenty one. And that was what Jerry Jones 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.359 said today on one h five three The Fan. But Isaiah, 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.920 last week, you were the one that said that you 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.280 didn't think that Mike McCarthy was the right man for 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.920 the job. Does one win change that or is this 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.120 just Jerry completely backing up his guy and doing what 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:12.080 he needs to do on air talking about what his 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.639 head coach is moving forward my steam is last week? 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.440 Or was just in reference to being unsure if he 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.160 is the right guy simply because of the decisions that 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:26.040 he's allowed to pass through his ranks. The defensive thing, 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.480 the things, the defensive calls or lack there of execution 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.919 or defense which runs through the defensive coordinator in which 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.560 he now he coaches that coach. So he allows that 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.560 the special teams players have come through that he's allowed 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.840 to across his table. Guess what he coaches that coach. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:41.960 He allows that. So I do have a lot of 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.960 questions pretending around coach McCarthy. I have no questions about 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.800 his history, his past, but we're not talking about the 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.240 past anymore. Right The past gets you, gets you to 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.120 the present. But right now, presently, we I don't think 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.680 that he's done a good jobs as a head coach 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.440 in terms of being the overseer of all decisions that 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.360 touched them. But one game does not turn that around. 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.200 Absolutely not. We're still at the bottom of the of 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.080 the league and a lot of a lot of different areas. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.160 So you know, I think he has a long way 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.080 to go. I think, you know, you do owe him 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.480 a full off season. Now. I think that's that's fair. 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.279 I wasn't saying to get rid of him. I'm just 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.160 saying that based off his decisions this year, I am 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.560 definitely not confident, but I'm going to give him. If 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.000 I was a general manager, I would definitely give him 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.440 another year in a full off season to show me 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:32.120 that what I just saw this year was was not true. Well, 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.200 I think any any other statement about Mike McCarthy in 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.200 twenty twenty would obviously be a knee jerk reaction to 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.400 what's going on with this team. You have to all 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:46.359 things being considered with COVID and what this coaching staff 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.400 has had to deal with. I think that's smart. I 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.680 think you don't attack it any other way, especially when 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:55.800 you went in to twenty twenty believing that you had 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.919 the right guy and obviously, unbeknownst to you, global Pande 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.520 mc breaks out, and so I think that that's smart. 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:06.600 I think I didn't expect for Stephen or Jerry to 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.039 answer that question any other way. And I think you know, 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.680 not saying being let's be fair, I just feel as though, 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.560 you know you can't just have the okay, let's fire 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:19.080 this guy now, and realizing that he didn't have his 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.080 full arsenal and he definitely didn't have time to prepare 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.919 for the season. But there are some questionable things that 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.240 has happened, Like Isaiah said, all of those calls, a 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.000 lot of the things that he allowed to happen on 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.279 special teams, defensive calls, things like that. He hears that 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.800 offensive calls here, he's hearing again his headset and his 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.840 job is to coach to coaches. So when things like 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.120 that go by on your watch, that's just one more 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.080 that they're they're notching and putting under under his name 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.600 to see how he proceeds with this going into the future. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.040 But you know, yeah, I didn't expect it the answer 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.400 to go anything any other way except for we're bringing 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:58.400 him back next year and Rob, we're talking about Jerry 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:02.080 Jones and what he said, yeah, or this morning rather 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:03.960 on one oh five three the Fan just a little 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.120 bit earlier than what you hopped on with Sean and 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:07.960 r J. They were on with him and he was 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.599 basically backing up Mike McCarthy and doubling down there. Do 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.640 you think that was that's exactly what Jerry thinks moving forward? 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.640 Or what do you What did you make out of 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.800 what Jerry had to say? Yeah, sorry, guys, I ran 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.320 kind of late on the Fan. I was honestly surprised 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.800 that it picked up steam in the mainstream media the 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.719 way it did. To be honest with you, I don't 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.279 think there's any There has never been a question to 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.000 me or I don't I believe Jerry in the Jones's 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.880 mind that Mike's back next year. I mean, one thing 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.239 about Jerry is one regret that he has going back 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:44.040 to the late nineties in firing. I think it was 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.920 chan Gaily was not giving him enough time to establish 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.680 his program. It's it's one reason why Jason Garrett was 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:54.840 here for ten years because Jerry, Jerry decided continuity with 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.640 your coaching staff is very important. Now they reached a 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:01.479 point with Jason Garrett where they decided they needed a 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:06.479 new message. But they absolutely they're gonna give Mike a 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.960 lot of rope, a lot of chances here because the 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.560 pandemic is one thing. They also it's not based on 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.120 so much to me, what's what's happened this year. This 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.960 year has not been indicative of what he can do 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.040 as a head coach. Part of it's the circumstances. Part 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:23.800 of it's like you guys said, I mean, he's kind 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:37.000 of a walk around coach. I think we lost Rob 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:38.920 on both ends of this. So we'll get him back 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.600 coming up here in just a little bit. But basically 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.200 I like what he was talking to and I definitely 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.240 want him to finish off what he was saying here 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.400 in just a little bit. But Isaiah, whenever it comes 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:55.080 to listening to Jerry Jones, I mean, it really hasn't 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.280 been a question with Mike McCarthy, right, I mean it 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.520 really hasn't. You never really at any point this season, 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.480 even though no matter what you think personally, you never 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.440 saw this coaching staff and said there's no way that MIKEL. 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:12.120 McCarthy comes back in twenty twenty one. Correct. Uh, sorry, 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:13.680 it's a little bit of an echo. So I think 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.160 I got what you got what you said. But uh, 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.280 in terms of just repeat the last sports you said, 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.400 coach McCarthy, it was there any questionations he's coming back. 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.680 There was no question about what Jerry Jones had to 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.320 deal with in terms of bringing him back in twenty 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.640 twenty one. That was never in question. But maybe the 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.720 rest of the coaching staff that was kind of sporting 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.079 last week. Yeah. Absolutely, I think obviously coach McCarthy's coming back. 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.040 He you don't. You don't fire a coach after after 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.880 what if this is this is unprecedented. This has never 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.199 happened ever in the history of Everingham. Um, so you 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.640 get you definitely, if you were to fire him you're 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.960 the most cutthroat, ruthless individual in the world. If you 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:53.560 fire the hey coach for that. However, however, you do 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:57.360 fire coordinators and the defensive coordinator, I don't I don't 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.360 see how they can retain him after this year. I 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.400 think that you'd give it him a Yes, he's had 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.160 a lot of injuries happening to him too. There's guys 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.319 that were supposed to be there, Veterans are supposed to 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.560 be there that he was relying on who you know, 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:12.600 either got hurt or you know, either got cut. However, 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.880 the cream of the crop, majority of his guys, they 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.040 have been there. He's had a ton of injuries in 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.480 the secondary as well, so he's had to overcome some things. 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.559 But you look at it on the other side of 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.880 the ball, Coach Philman has overcome those things as well, 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.720 and coach philm is not even a coordinator. Kellen Moore 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.800 has made adjustments as well, and he is a coordinator. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:32.880 So when you look at those those comparisons, when you 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.720 start looking at history and saying, hey, this is one 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.480 of the worst defensive defenses of all time, it's kind 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.760 of hard to justify giving him another opportunity to come 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.640 back because he hasn't shown you that he can overcome adversity. 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.720 That's That's one thing that I think everybody looks for 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.240 is I hate when those points of adversity really hit, 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.760 when those hurdles show up. How do you get over him? 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:53.200 Do you get over him? Or do you just run 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.360 into them over and over again? And I think that 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.599 our defense has continually ran into the same dog and 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:02.400 hurt and set up finding a way around it. Heckma 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:13.640 Isaiah said, ever them, that's that's good. Uh. Mike Nolan 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.400 is Uh. Mike Nolan has had his struggles, and I 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.720 think when you look at the numbers on the defense, 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:22.679 it's it's it's through, it's off the charts. How bad 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.520 this defense has been on so many levels. And I 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:29.240 think it's hard uh as a fan base to kind 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.400 of get behind him and say, Okay, let's give him 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.320 another let's give him another stabbath this um, you know, 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.560 not making any excuses for him. I just feel like 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.240 he did not He never had the personnel to play 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.120 the scheme uh that he wanted, and I believe he 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.079 knew that going into the season. There are so many 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.559 injuries that happened prior before the season even started. I mean, 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:51.760 it seems like that was many moons ago. But there 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:53.520 were so many guys that we were counting on to 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.560 be a part of this defense that that were not 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.800 and you know, with the rookies and and um guys 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.360 that came off the practice squad to be on the defense. 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.040 It just seemed to me like this defense never had 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.720 an opportunity to get that continuity that we thought they 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:12.959 would have in the front line, linebacker wise, dvs. And look, man, 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.200 that's that's the story all on its own, and just 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.880 how bad that has been for us, especially at the 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.560 safety position. We have to do something there, and so 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:26.800 I don't know, I kind of I hesitate to place Blaine, 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.480 especially when you know coaches are not coaching guys to 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.880 with on tackles and not attack the line of scrimmage 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.679 or not break on balls. These are things that guys 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.840 have been playing their whole entire careers. And so look, 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.319 I just feel as though, even with that, even with 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:46.600 all things being considered, maybe we you know, approach this 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.319 with caution and say, look, man, let's let's come back 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.520 to it the defense in the off season. Let's get 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.600 some of the personnel in there. So that we can 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.320 play the kind of defense that Nolan wants to play, 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.920 because right now he doesn't have the dogs to do it. Wow, 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.880 So Isaiah, you're keeping him all right? Excuse me, Isaiah, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.920 you're moving on and then heckma, you're keeping him Rob. 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:11.840 I see you back on our WebEx side of things. Sorry, 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:15.200 I'm agree with Mike Nolan. I don't know what they're 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.120 gonna do. I mean, I think you know. He was 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:21.040 asked directly last night via conference called by the media, 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.480 Mike Nolan was you know, do you expect to be back? 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.160 And he said he's not thinking about it, and if 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.880 when that time comes, we'll deal with it if there 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.000 is a change. So like, look, he's aware of how 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:34.880 bad the defense has been this year. He knows it. 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.480 I mean, when you look at the numbers, it's it's 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.839 historically bad. And it was a step in the right 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:44.800 direction on Sunday. But you know, I hear what you're 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.000 saying about, you know, not having the pieces necessarily to 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.040 play what you want, but then play a four three, 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.920 you know, don't be as multiple. And they did scale 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:55.720 some things back as the season went along, but he 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.800 has done both schemes throughout his career, and we heard 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.600 about them trying to you know, Taylor scheme to the personnel. 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.240 I don't know if they've really done that this year. 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.480 They tried to fit it around what they wanted to do, 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.280 and it hasn't. It hasn't worked, And some of it's 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:13.400 personnel and some of it is executing you know, simple assignments. 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.920 You know, we've talked about that, Isaiah talked about that 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.280 during the season. There's been basic coverage as they've blown 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.640 and then in the personnel game too. Look, they haven't 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.800 they didn't replace certain players well enough clearly Byron Jones, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.280 Jeff Heath, MALIEK. Collins. You can go down the list 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.280 you would. When people say it's, oh, it's it's the 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.439 same defense as last year, No it's not. You know, 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.320 they're missing guys that did a good job for them 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.480 last year. So it's a lot of different reasons. But 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:39.280 as I said on the fan a few minutes ago, 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:40.840 I mean they're gonna have to ask some hard questions 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.040 after the year about scheme, why didn't it work? And 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.200 obviously Mike Nolan's going to be a huge part of that. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.160 We know Mike McCarthy has a lot of faith in him, 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.679 but you know, something's got to change. Whether it's drastic 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.439 changes in scheme or whether it's a change at the 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:56.160 coordinator position. I don't know what they're gonna do. And 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.400 I think that's something that's significant is is a lot 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.560 of people are I mean, that's kind of where I 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.079 hear that excuse come in and it's it's, oh, this 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.440 is the same personnel group. And I've said it before, 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.000 it's very similar of a personnel group that the Cowboys 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.920 had last year on defense. But one guy that's not 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.120 out there's number thirty one and Byron Jones, and you 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.640 don't have Byron Jones back out there. So it's a 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.320 combination of the personnel, it's a combination of the scheme. 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.720 There's a lot of things missing out of this defense 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.520 that have to be found this offseason for the Cowboys 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.520 to start having a little bit of success. And by 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.760 the way, I am watching the periscope chat because it 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.120 is fans on the fifty Tuesdays, So once again, if 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.960 you have questions, send in your questions on the periscope chat. 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.360 I like this comment from for Dizzel and I love 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:41.200 the name to for Dizzele. He says, bring Wade Phillips back. 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:47.040 Best defense we've had it forever. Where anybody want to go, 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.440 get it? Get Wade Phillips back, Isaiah, you played for 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:53.160 the man. Yeah. Coach Phillips is an amazing human being. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.960 First of all, he's not I wouldn't classify him as 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.200 an amazing head coach. He's he's a great gentleman and 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.440 nice guy. But I think he's an amazing defensive coordinator. 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.200 That's just one thing he does well. I think he's 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:06.960 stepped out of his element a little bit when when 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.640 m P. I'm grateful because he brought me on. Um. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.480 But but but um, I think I think he's he's 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.600 a much better defensive coordinator. And I don't think there's 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.680 anywhere he's been where he hasn't been well respected, where 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.600 he hasn't gotten the most out of that out of 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.960 the out of those players, out of that defense. Um. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.560 He brings a lot of a lot of range, a 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.280 lot of diversity, the diversity, a lot of chick curveballs, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.400 you know. In terms of his defensive schemes, He's able 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.200 to run the three four, He's able to run the 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.720 four to three no matter what personnel He's had, He's 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.000 found a way. And I think that's my biggest issue 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:41.640 with with with Mike Nolan this year is everybody knows 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.400 that you've had injuries. Everybody gets it. Everybody gets that 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.560 you've had injuries. Everybody gets that you brought veterans in 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.320 that that you knew we're going to play an integral 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:49.960 part and they didn't show up the way that you 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.280 expected him to. We get it, We totally understand. However, 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.840 as a coach, as a player, right you're judge based 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.720 off of how you can overcome those things. How can 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.080 you how can you change course? If this is your 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.280 course and you run a dog on boulder comes off 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.480 the mountain and blocks your road. Do you just sit 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.960 there and say, well, I'm just gonna wake this one out. 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.200 Or do you say, you know, let me find a way. 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.040 Let me start looking around. Can I go up that way? Now? 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:15.400 Let me see if I can go around this way? 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.440 You start changing things that you have to get creative 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.080 because this is your personnel, this is what you have. 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.040 Either you go have a conversation with Will, with Will 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.680 McClay and Jerry Jones and you say, hey, I need 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.000 to get this guy out of here. Give me, this 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.400 guy right here that I see blah blas blase, or 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:30.880 you say, these are my guys that I have on 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:34.040 my current roster. What the heck can I do to 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.000 make sure that these guys are effective and efficient? I 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.800 don't care if it's even something that nobody's ever seen before. Shoot, 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:40.520 when I played for New England, Rex Ryan used to 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:45.480 run a one one five five defense one to five five. Hey, 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.840 what the heck is a one five five That's never 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.320 been done ever in history? But guess what, that's the 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.480 personnel group he had. He trusted one defensive linement. He 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.040 had five good, really good linebackers in five dB. So 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.000 what did he do? This is what we're going with. 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.360 It doesn't matter whether or not his tradition or not. 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.240 Find a way to make it happen. Find a way 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.399 to throw off the opposing team and be successful. And no, 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.000 and I'm sorry, Kyle, I just want to say that, 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.280 you know, I agree with that, and I think that 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.080 you know, obviously you got to play to the strength 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.119 of the guys that you have. But in the NFL, 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.639 if you stay with us a look too long, teams 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.359 will pick you apart. And he had to be multifaceted 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.119 with his defense and his coverages. If you're looking for 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.159 just talk about Tank Lawrence, right, a guy that we've 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.080 seen that come in through the draft that it was 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.400 a little raw. We have to work on this game. 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.720 Leon Lett worked on him to know end and he 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.639 turned out to be a player and got the contract. 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:39.200 Incomes Mike Nolan changes what we were doing before from 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.000 the four three to the three four, and now instead 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.160 of being a guy that's in the three down, he's 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:48.200 in a bicycle stand right, and that changes the dynamic 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.560 of the way that that guy had been coached up 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.239 all of those years. I just and then let's go 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.760 back to the fact that multiple interviews with Steven Stephen 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.400 Jones saying that, look, we have the guys on campus 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.800 to get this done. We haven't seen that those guys yet. 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.960 Right back when we were trying to get other guys 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.080 from other teams, and I don't even want to get 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.640 Isaiah started about this, but I just feel as though 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.919 we had multiple opportunities to bring in guys to help us, 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:15.800 but we felt like the group that we had was 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:17.800 good enough. And I think that going back and looking 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.040 at the film, we realized that we didn't have it. 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.320 That's so frustrating, it really is, because there were guys 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.200 out there that can potentially help you, or at least 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.199 you thought so, and they just haven't been able to 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.720 bring any any of those guys in. Rod. But those 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:37.040 names sound good in names theory, right and right. But 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.040 look at who the Cowboys brought in and name it 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.400 sounded great too, you know, Everson Griffin, don Terry Poe 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.080 didn't work. Yeah, so, I mean there was no guarantee there. 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:49.240 I don't really you know, nobody signed her Old Thomas 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.280 this year for whatever reason. I'm not saying he can't 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:56.960 play anymore, but nobody did so. Isaiah mentioned Rex Ryan. 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.200 It did get me thinking about Rob Ryan coming in here, 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:03.120 and there's there's a similarity. Like after Wade's tenure, rob 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.880 Ryan comes in as DC and we heard about being 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.600 multiple and doing all this different stuff and it's it 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.960 sounds great, but if you can't apply it on the field, 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.440 that's when you have a problem. They had substitution pattern problems, 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:17.160 you know, with with Rob Ryan, and that's they try 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.399 to do too much. You know, Jerry said it um 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:24.280 and guys aren't comfortable on the field, then that's that's 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.080 where your primary job as a coach is making your 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.119 players comfortable on the field, and they have yet to 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:33.520 do that consistently. And that's why the rankings are where 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.879 they are, and the Cowboys are at the bottom of 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:41.679 the barrel whenever it comes to those rankings. And this 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.040 will be You're welcome, guys. I just wanted to let 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.199 that be known. But I mean, this is gonna be 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:49.240 a conversation not only this week, but next week and 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.880 the week after and in to the offseason, because that's 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.399 how the conversation is going to continue to unfold. And 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:56.960 these last three games, I mean we talk we mentioned 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.840 yesterday players playing for their jobs. These coaches are coaching 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.119 their jobs as well, and they're trying to find a 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.120