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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Batch and Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here.

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Speaker 3: With the Happy couple. Joey and Kelsey are here. Welcome well, Joey,

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Speaker 3: welcome again, Kelsey. This is our first time having you,

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Speaker 3: so welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how you guys feel? You guys feeling good? Everything's good?

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Speaker 1: You're happy? You're still in love or do you hate

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Speaker 1: each other yet?

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Speaker 4: So I am so happy. I'm just so excited to

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Speaker 4: be able to, you know, flaw our love and show

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Speaker 4: everybody how happy we are.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been a long time.

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Speaker 6: These are always some of my favorite interviews of the

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Speaker 6: season because we've obviously been in your shoes as a

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Speaker 6: couple that like met on the show and had to

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Speaker 6: do the whole like keep it on the downlow situation

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Speaker 6: for a bunch of months. So I feel like it's

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Speaker 6: always fun for us to be like one of the

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Speaker 6: first people to talk to you guys after it's all

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Speaker 6: out and you can and finally be together and announce

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Speaker 6: that you're in a relationship, Like, how does it feel?

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Speaker 5: I mean, it feels great.

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Speaker 7: We as you said, you know what it's like to

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Speaker 7: be waiting and you just you look forward to this moment,

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Speaker 7: you like picture it. But now that it's finally here,

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Speaker 7: I always say, it's just it feels like.

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Speaker 5: It's like a weight off your shoulders.

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Speaker 7: So we finally get the ability to be a normal couple,

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Speaker 7: enjoy the small things, the things that we've been looking forward.

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Speaker 4: To, even just riding the same car, Like we're just

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Speaker 4: excited for like the little things especially.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were we were in Toronto and we just

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Speaker 3: like we went to we just went to like some

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Speaker 3: random bar and sat outside and had bears and like

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Speaker 3: appetizers and it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: A luxury.

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Speaker 6: It feels like so luxurious to do like anything together afterwards.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, but we'll get into all of your exciting

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Speaker 6: future plans and what you're gonna do now that you're

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Speaker 6: out and about a little later because we have so

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Speaker 6: much to break down in this episode, so much to unpack.

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Speaker 2: Joe, where do you want to start?

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Speaker 1: Kelsey, because you haven't been on this podcast.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with your chat with Leslie, because we were

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Speaker 3: watching that and we were kind of like, oh no,

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Speaker 3: like this is kind of she might get a little

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Speaker 3: freaked out from this. So how was that conversation for you?

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Speaker 1: In that moment?

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Speaker 4: I think Leslie was just trying to give me advice

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Speaker 4: from where she was coming from, with her experience on

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Speaker 4: her side of things. I took it with a grain

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Speaker 4: of salt. There's obviously was more to the conversation, but

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Speaker 4: people always focus on the negative. But Leslie and I

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Speaker 4: had a great conversation. We talked about going through similar

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Speaker 4: life experiences, and she gave me a lot of great advice.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I just took it with a grain of salt.

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Speaker 4: Where she was saying to, you know, guard your heart,

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Speaker 4: which I mean I kind of was to an extent

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Speaker 4: through this process. You know, I was very optimistic, but

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Speaker 4: I never felt like I was guaranteed anything. And that's

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Speaker 4: how I continued to go through it regardless of, you know,

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Speaker 4: what she was telling me. I just kind of kept

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Speaker 4: going how I was.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that her words and warnings changed how

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Speaker 6: you felt or pro situation at all? Like, do you

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Speaker 6: think it did kind of send you into a bit

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Speaker 6: already there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the closer you get towards the end,

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Speaker 4: and you feel all those real feelings, you're going to

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Speaker 4: be anxious regardless. So with that conversation or not, I

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Speaker 4: the final, the final little stint of it all.

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Speaker 6: How was that for you watching the conversation, Joey, Because

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Speaker 6: I feel like, I mean, we love Leslie, but when

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Speaker 2: Leslie, you're going to scare her. I mean obviously, like

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I think she explained it well.

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Speaker 7: It was more like Leslie was trying to explain where

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Speaker 7: she was coming from. We did have more talks about that,

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Speaker 7: not only during our dinner but also through overnights, Like

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Speaker 7: we talked through it. It definitely heightened her feelings of

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Speaker 7: important because you have to go through that point of

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Speaker 7: also thinking like, Okay, there is doubt, but does that

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Speaker 5: Like is there something that I want to fight for

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Speaker 7: And I think that's probably what I look at is

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Speaker 7: the positive that it brought out was she did feel

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Speaker 7: the doubt, she did realize what the position she was in.

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Speaker 5: But knew there was something stronger to like fight for

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Speaker 5: to get to the end. And I think that's what

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Speaker 5: kind of made us stronger through it. And Leslie did

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Speaker 5: the right thing, like it's a tough.

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Speaker 6: Position to be in, oh one hundred percent, And I

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Speaker 6: mean we saw her journey, so I think the viewers

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Speaker 6: can understand where she's coming from. And I also think

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Speaker 6: that that's a great way to look at it, Joey,

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Speaker 6: like she maybe was feeling fear in doubt, but Kelsey,

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Speaker 6: you obviously cared enough to push through that and not

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Speaker 6: let it scare you away.

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Speaker 5: Right, It's important to be realistic.

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Speaker 7: I think Leslie tried to make sure she was being

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Speaker 7: realistic because she even said that she'd maybe lost that

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Speaker 7: through her whole entire journey, which again is totally understandable.

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Speaker 1: Kelsey. Let's let's see the ring. Could you show us

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Speaker 1: the ring?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a little it's so sprightly, I'm blinded. Oh

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Speaker 6: my god, it's beautiful.

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Speaker 5: Great.

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Speaker 2: Did you say what you wanted at all?

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 4: I said, like certain qualities, like I wanted an emerald cut.

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Speaker 4: I wanted it to be more simple, things like that.

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Speaker 4: So whenever he opened it up, I was like.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there was a little I love it because she

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Speaker 7: does like gold, and there was only like one gold option,

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Speaker 7: but like I knew platinum was like I knew platinum

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Speaker 7: would work, and I knew the emerald cut was more

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Speaker 5: She wanted like a longer cut.

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Speaker 7: So there was a moment I was like, I really

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Speaker 7: hope I'm not picking the wrong one. But when she

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Speaker 7: saw it, she literally showed me later on a picture

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Speaker 7: that she showed to a producer of like exactly what

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Speaker 7: she wanted and it even had like the exact emeral cut,

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Speaker 7: the two half moves on the side, like it was

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Speaker 7: almost the exact same rate.

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Speaker 5: It was a little, I think a little bigger. I

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's amazing. I love that. It's beautiful.

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Speaker 4: It's so fautiful. No, I'm obsessed with it. And also

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Speaker 4: like I mix, I mix metals, like I'll do silver

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Speaker 4: and gold, so you know, I could just do a

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Speaker 4: gold wedding band, so we'll be good.

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Speaker 2: There you go, get it dipped too. I think I

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Speaker 2: think my mom did that.

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Speaker 6: She had like a yellow gold ring for forever and

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Speaker 6: for their like fifteen year anniversary whatever she got it

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Speaker 6: dipped in white gold.

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Speaker 3: Joey, you expressed during the season, like your biggest fear is,

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Speaker 3: you know, getting falling for someone who then doesn't get there.

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Speaker 3: When Kelsey walked out, were those fears gone or were

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Speaker 3: you still Were you still nervous or did you think

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Speaker 3: We we need to talk, which I don't know, Kelsey.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that was about.

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Speaker 5: No, I think I think it was a mix of emotions.

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Speaker 7: I would say that I still had that like, wow,

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Speaker 5: But I was confident. Our last night that we had

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Speaker 7: I was now in a different position because I was

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Speaker 7: reassuring her a lot through that time. So I was

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Speaker 7: trying to stay short and confident, like this is here,

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Speaker 7: be here. So yeah, there's a lot of emotions on

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Speaker 7: that last day, but I was confident. But I think

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Speaker 7: any guy, as soon as they get that one one,

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Speaker 7: he has that like thought in the back of the head,

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Speaker 7: like is she gonna say yes? So I sure did

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Speaker 7: that for a second. But yeah, we were in a

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Speaker 2: Good, Joe, did you have that thought?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course, yeah I was. I really had

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Speaker 2: But well, Joe genuinely actually did enough.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah, I truly didn't know. Kelsey.

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Speaker 3: How about how about you walking out onto that platform? Like,

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Speaker 3: how surreal is that moment? I mean, you come on

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Speaker 3: this show and like you're there, You're there at the end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was very surreal. I was telling all my

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Speaker 4: friends going on that, I was like, you know, I

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Speaker 4: I'll probably be right back. I came on just thinking,

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Speaker 4: if anything, would be a really cool life experience. But

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Speaker 4: I was open to the process, and I mean, it

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Speaker 4: worked out perfectly for me, and I'm just really happy

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Speaker 4: where we are. It's funny whenever I was actually walking

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Speaker 4: up to Joey at the end, I couldn't find him.

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Speaker 4: I was looking everywhere. I was like, where is he?

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Speaker 7: Like that actually was why I had some doubt because

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Speaker 5: Going to be bad.

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I couldn't find him. Finally I

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Speaker 4: found him.

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Speaker 5: I had they had a whole.

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Speaker 6: Route for She's like turning backwards, joys again, She's leaving me,

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Speaker 6: It's over.

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Speaker 5: He just kept looking straight at like the production town.

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Speaker 7: I was like, it's something about to happen, Like I

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Speaker 2: You found him?

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Speaker 3: Thank God him, so that I would say, I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is one of the first times I think we've

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Speaker 3: ever seen this on a season. But Daisy does come

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Speaker 3: to you Kelsey and basically says like, I don't think

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Speaker 3: he's gonna pick me, so like I'm I'm done. Is

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Speaker 3: there was there a part of you that kind of

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Speaker 3: wishes she didn't do that. Do you feel like that

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Speaker 3: might have spoiled the moment for you?

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Speaker 4: I mean I think that I went back and forth

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Speaker 4: at the very beginning of like, oh you know, I

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Speaker 4: really I don't know, like did I did I want that?

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Speaker 4: Did I not? But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: like it's what happened, and I know that she had

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Speaker 4: really good intent, and you know, I think that it

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Speaker 4: did take a little bit of the stress off my

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Speaker 4: think that she's a wonderful woman.

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Speaker 3: So okay, nice, nice, Yeah, I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: would have liked that.

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Speaker 1: But now, how was.

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Speaker 2: The car ride?

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Speaker 4: It looked really awkward and it wasn't as awkward as

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to hear that.

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Speaker 4: I didn't really watch Fantasy Suites. I also didn't really

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Speaker 4: Just think that, you know, certain people really like certain

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Speaker 7: And I think in general this whole season, we felt

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that I just kind of have

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Speaker 3: Well, the good thing now and I can speak from experience,

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Speaker 6: So we're gonna be no way that's amazing.

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Speaker 6: Well, if you have any questions about areas or anything

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So I've spoke with Dotton and also Katie and

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Speaker 5: They were great, and Charity have doctor.

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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of tweets and comments about your dad.

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Speaker 4: You know, I have talked to him about it a

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 4: My mom always said that if she passed before him,

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Speaker 4: So you got to be sixty.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So he's like, I think the cutoff for last

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Speaker 1: Okay. What advice going through this? If let's say he

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Speaker 4: Him just to be himself and to open up, because

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Speaker 1: Have you two talked about that more?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think that we both have talked about it

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Speaker 5: Or anything with that, no rush.

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Speaker 7: We both feel like we're in a great spot to

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Speaker 7: But the cool part is if we have a longer engagement,

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Speaker 5: So we have time and we're excited for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's healthy, honestly, just move in together. First,

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Speaker 7: Kind of like when you do this, like we're starting

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Speaker 7: We want to strengthen this relationship to however strong it

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Speaker 5: So that's our focus for now, and we have time

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Speaker 3: Any any travel plans coming up, He's gonna go anywhere celebrate.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we do have a few.

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Speaker 7: We found out that we have a lot of weddings

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Speaker 7: We're actually gonna go to back to Hawaii because I

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00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 7: wanted to show her around. But the cool thing is

445
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 7: we're jumping on a trip with Zach and Katie as well,

446
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:41,399
Speaker 7: so that one.

447
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,360
Speaker 5: Will be in May, so we'll go to Kawai.

448
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,400
Speaker 7: We have Portugal and then a few other different going

449
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,399
Speaker 7: around the States and different things that we have coming up.

450
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,119
Speaker 5: This should be fun.

451
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,199
Speaker 2: Oh nice. Have you guys met Zach and Katy in

452
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 2: person yet?

453
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,440
Speaker 5: He hasn't.

454
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 7: I've seen that obviously, but she's she's been behind closed doors.

455
00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 4: I've only been facetiming Katie. But she's awesome and I

456
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 4: can't wait to hang out with her in person.

457
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they're great. You guys are gonna have

458
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:04,720
Speaker 2: so much fun.

459
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: Kelsey, How about the girls on your season?

460
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 3: Are you?

461
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 1: Are you still? Who are you? Who are you close with?

462
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,120
Speaker 4: Yeah? I'm really close with Lexi, also Caitlin and Medina.

463
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 4: I would say that there are my three closest friends

464
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 4: from the season. But I feel like I got pretty

465
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 4: close with all of the girls. I think that there

466
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 4: was I don't know, just so many amazing women. They

467
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 4: all had such big stories and even some of the

468
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 4: girls from the earlier like you know episodes like Star

469
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 4: and Samantha who went home Night one, Like, I don't know,

470
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,120
Speaker 4: they were all just really great girls. We had a good,

471
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 4: a good bunch this season.

472
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 3: Nice and how how did you get on the show?

473
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 4: So I applied myself. It was like a couple months

474
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 4: after my last relationship, and my friend had applied me

475
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,959
Speaker 4: the last relationship I had got out of. So I

476
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 4: was like, you know what, let me just apply. I

477
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 4: didn't think I was getting her back. Oh and then

478
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 4: I just started hearing back, and I started doing more

479
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 4: and more interviews, and then you know, I got on

480
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 4: and I was like I can't wait to meet this guy.

481
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,199
Speaker 5: I was making a joke when she first told me

482
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 5: she applied herself. I was like, that's a red flack.

483
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know about this one anymore.

484
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 1: But she was.

485
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 7: She was saying the same thing, like how she that's

486
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 7: what she does when she got on a relationship and

487
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 7: she was in a good spot. So we joked about it,

488
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 7: but I thought it was funny that she applied herself too.

489
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, I genuinely did not expect to

490
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 4: hear back like I flew through like the thing. Honestly,

491
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 4: I didn't. I don't think that I like went super

492
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 4: in depth about a lot of things. But then the interviews,

493
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 4: we just talked more and more with you know, everybody,

494
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 4: and it went great.

495
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 6: It's so funny because honestly I applied myself too. I

496
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 6: mean like I had a lot of Yeah, I had

497
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 6: a lot of like external pressure for my mom and

498
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 6: my sister to do so, but like I was just

499
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 6: out of a relationship chip a few months prior it

500
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 6: was the pandemic, and honestly, I never thought I would

501
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 6: hear back like I did not apply seriously, Like I

502
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 6: don't even know what I put on my application, but

503
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 6: like I always feel like saying that I applied myself.

504
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 6: When it's like oh I got nominated, O, like I

505
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 6: got scouted, I'm like, yeah, no, Like this is I

506
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 6: feel like a red flag.

507
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 5: But when you guys described like that, it doesn't.

508
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 7: As soon as she explained it, and if you explained it,

509
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 7: like I wouldn't think of it first year you applied yourself,

510
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 7: like oh, so you're here for followers, Like yeah.

511
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: You freaking club chaser, goes right away.

512
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 7: But then when you hear it like oh no, you

513
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 7: were just open to it and like this will never happen.

514
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, literally, like when you explain it, it makes sense.

515
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 6: But when you're like, yeah, I applied, it's like this feels.

516
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: It saying no.

517
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 4: Literally, I was like I'm nervous to tell people like

518
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 4: I applied for myself. I was like, I was like,

519
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 4: I'm a little embarrassed, Like I didn't get a DM,

520
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 4: I'm not that cool.

521
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 3: Joey, what what was your your reaction, your honest reaction

522
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 3: when you first saw Kelsey when she stepped out of

523
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: the limo.

524
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 5: So I was blown away.

525
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 7: The part is you know how the limbounches are always

526
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 7: different times too.

527
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 5: She was actually the last one out of the limo.

528
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 5: She was the last person that came up.

529
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 7: So I was also like after thirty two women, like

530
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 7: it was getting to the point that I was like,

531
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 7: I'm kind of I'm ready to go inside. I'm ready

532
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 7: to give this toast, like I'm ready to get this

533
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 7: thing going. But she walked out and I was like,

534
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 7: oh shit, okay, like we're this is amazing, Like, okay,

535
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 7: this was worth it for thirty two because she was

536
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 7: the last.

537
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 5: One and I was blown away right away.

538
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 7: But we always joked too about our first conversation on

539
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 7: night one, like she was so nervous and so kind

540
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 7: of upset.

541
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 5: I think that I kissed other women.

542
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 7: Because she heard it through the house and just kind

543
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 7: of you said that you were a little bit.

544
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 4: I wasn't said that you're kissing the other women. I

545
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 4: just was like, you're not going.

546
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 5: To kiss me on exactly, So I guess that's what

547
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 5: it was. She was definitely reserved.

548
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, Kelsey, Kelsey, did did you go

549
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 3: in for a kiss at all night one?

550
00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 4: No?

551
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: No, she was saying that.

552
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: She like was like, I don't don't kiss me night one, Like.

553
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 7: She wasn't like a bad thing, but like if we

554
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,959
Speaker 7: were sitting with each other like this, we weren't like this.

555
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 5: She was like purposely this far away.

556
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 4: From making a whole lot of eye contact because I

557
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 4: was like, this boy better not coming for a kiss

558
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 4: because I heard ten other girls.

559
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: Because well smart, but you play a little hard to get.

560
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 5: And she did well. She did well.

561
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: I said.

562
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 3: From the beginning, I was like, Joey, Joey likes these girls,

563
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 3: but I think he loves Kelsey. And I think I

564
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,239
Speaker 3: said that I did. I said that night one. I

565
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: was like, he's upset.

566
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: You did you said that? You didn't say that night one?

567
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: Well, I might have said at night whatever.

568
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 7: We also talked about this one too, because I thought

569
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 7: this was so interesting.

570
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 5: I forget who brought it up.

571
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 7: One of the producers talked to me about it that said,

572
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 7: you're gonna have your idea of everyone after night one,

573
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 7: but you're gonna go to bed and you're gonna wake

574
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 7: up and someone's gonna be on your mind. You're gonna

575
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 7: have a dream about her or someone you're not gonna

576
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 7: be able to get out of your head. And we

577
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 7: didn't have the best night one because of that like

578
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 7: awkward thing that she was like someone that was on

579
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 7: my mind.

580
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 2: She's giving you like bad body language.

581
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't think this girl likes me.

582
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 5: So we had that like whole type of thing.

583
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 7: But I went to bed and I woke up the

584
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 7: next morning I had a fall on dream about her.

585
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 7: She was the only person on my mind when I

586
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 7: like woke up the next day and I told all

587
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 7: of my team when I was the next day, I

588
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 7: was like, for some reason, this Kelsey girls on my mind.

589
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 7: I think the voodoo doll worked, Like I think it

590
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 7: made it through in my dreams. Like I'm not sure,

591
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 7: but that was the weirdest thing that I could not

592
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 7: wait for that paint Bottle date because she was the

593
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 7: one that, like I couldn't get out of my head,

594
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 7: and then she acted like she liked me on the

595
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 7: paintball date.

596
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, oh my god, I have chills. That's so cool.

597
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: Good story.

598
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was definitely different because someone brought it up

599
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 7: and I was like, no, I'm not going to dream

600
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 7: about anyone, but I did.

601
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 5: She was the person I dreamed.

602
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: About that was it was the voodoo doll. You actually worked.

603
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 5: Jesus one in her bag the whole time. She never

604
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 5: told me about.

605
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 3: You got some you got some serious powers here. I'm

606
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: always curious about this, DoD.

607
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 5: Do you.

608
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: Like you did say you dreamt about Kelsey, But were

609
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: you kind of like she's gonna be here? Like did

610
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: was she in your top three?

611
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 4: Like?

612
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: Were you like she's making it the hometowns.

613
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 7: I knew before we started traveling that there was no

614
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 7: way she wasn't going to hometowns unless something happened like

615
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 7: we had.

616
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 5: We had a.

617
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 7: Great first date at the paint Battle, but the missus

618
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 7: right date when she got the group date, Rose was

619
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 7: kind of like, unless something goes terribly wrong, unless I'm

620
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 7: missing something, there's just no doubt that we're getting to

621
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 7: the point that we're going to see how far this

622
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 7: can go.

623
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 5: So I knew very early on where she was at.

624
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 7: But then I also know how crazy this whole experience is,

625
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 7: and you have to like keep your mind open and

626
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 7: understand that she could not be as invested as I was.

627
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 7: But I think you see through a lot of interviews

628
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 7: throughout the season too, like I was questioning if she

629
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 7: was invested. It wasn't ever if I was invested. She

630
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 7: did play a good hard to get and try as

631
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 7: much she could like hold things on her sleeve.

632
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 6: So I think I did say like after you guys

633
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 6: first day, and I was like, I think like either

634
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 6: like Joey's like a little more invested in Kelsey than Kelsey,

635
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 6: isn't Joey. I was like, I'm sure that's not the case,

636
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 6: but like she's playing hard to.

637
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 5: Get or what.

638
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 6: But I was like, he's definitely got like the hard

639
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 6: eyes on for her, and I feel like she's like,

640
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 6: we'll see.

641
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 7: I said, I didn't know you actually liked me until

642
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 7: at the end of Rocket, like even during the day.

643
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 7: It was like when we left that night and we

644
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 7: were like before we left, I was like, okay, like

645
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 7: she actually does like me now, But.

646
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was worried.

647
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 7: I didn't know because she was trying so hard to

648
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 7: like hold it in, I guess.

649
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: But well, I was.

650
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 4: About talking about a lot of things I want my

651
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 4: mom to be brought up, and I wanted that conversation

652
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 4: to have its time, So I think that that was

653
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 4: like part of me like holding back a little bit.

654
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Kelsey, I want to know if you if

655
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: you felt that from Joey. But we will, uh, we'll

656
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 3: lead off with that question for part two. So everyone

657
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: please stay tuned for the second part of Joey and

658
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: Kelsey because we are going to get more into their

659
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: relationship and ask them more questions. And thank you guys

660
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 3: so much for tuning in, and make sure you catch

661
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: part two of this coming up tomorrow because we can't

662
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: waste any more time.