WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Next Steps 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:06.560 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:16.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.760 you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:24.880 a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.760 much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:34.440 Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought us, and 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:44.519 bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hey, guys, welcome back to 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:49.400 another episode of The Break Uh presented by Miller Lite, 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:54.320 the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. I'm joined by Nick, Brian. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.160 Derek should be joining us here in a little bit, 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.800 but we're gonna go ahead and start the show. And 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:06.360 this isn't necessarily what people want to hear or talk 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.440 about right now. You know, we got the we ended 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.119 the season, but it's time to kind of get into 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.919 that offseason mode. And I wanted to ask you guys, 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:20.520 despite the end result and the loss that we just 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:24.399 went through and experienced against the forty nine ers, how 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.720 would you qualify this season when you go you know, 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.880 people doing their exit interviews and all that. If you 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.679 sit down and have to look at the overall and 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:39.760 feeling aside, how would you really qualify and review the season. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.240 I think it's a good season, and I know that 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.440 what's been talked about on the radio and people have 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:49.000 to debate about it, and and I just I don't 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.640 understand how it would be viewed anything different. And if 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.520 and if so, you know, this is why why we 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.480 get asked the questions earlier in the year, what's your 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.360 record for the season, what do you think it's going 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:03.120 to be. Um, I didn't hear any any twelve and 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.200 twelve and fives and and playoff, you know, go to 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.519 the division around. I didn't hear that. UM. I heard 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.359 nine and nine and eight and ten and seven and 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.440 and and maybe wild cards or sneak in. But so 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.919 I think I think expectations were way exceeded. UM And 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.160 I think you know you I saw things this year 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.560 I hadn't seen ever and the time I was here. 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.400 So I don't live my life that way, thinking that 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.160 it's got to be Super Bowl or bust, because I 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.880 would have been I would have been gone time. So 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.120 I don't. I don't view that way. And if people 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.080 that's you know, I don't know. How was your weekend? 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.799 It was good? Did you win the lottery? Well know, well, 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.240 then how is it good? I mean, like, I don't 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.040 live like that. I think you can have you can 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.359 have you said it before. Something that I guess I've 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:51.280 never actually given thought is these people whoever comes in 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.640 that's new head coach and new head coach players, they 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.080 have to deal with that type of burden that is 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.480 not their fault. They come in here and have to 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.240 deal with of the years and years and years right 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:06.760 where the Cowboys franchise hasn't gone back to a super 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.240 Bowl and deal with that. So that's something that people 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.680 don't realize. And I get it people are fed up, 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.239 but it's it's what it is. Brian. Yeah, you went 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.959 four out of five games with a backup quarterback when 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.240 your season in week one just looked like you know, 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.320 we make jokes about talking about the draft, show everything, 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.840 every it was the doom and gloom that was in 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:30.200 this building after Week one. The fan base around the 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.160 world was like, what are we going to do? Now? 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.360 You know we've got it, now we've got what, We've 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.800 got sixteen more weeks of this? Are you kidding me? 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.360 You know? And that's and that's the thing you look 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.520 at and you say, man, you went four of the 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.520 five games with a backup quarterback when none of us. 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:48.960 I shouldn't say none of us. I didn't think Cooper 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.360 Rush could do it. No, I didn't think it. I'll 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.600 tell you what. Dan Quinn made this defense better last year. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.000 It was you're thinking, man, what's dan Quinn going to do? 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.240 Smoke and mirrors? How's he going to do? This? Led 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.360 the lad the egan in turnovers last year. You know, 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.160 did things got in the playoffs? Yeah, you got beat 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.400 by San Francisco. Kind of figured out ways along how 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.480 to win games last year, you know, But your defense 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.880 carries you the first half of this season. Then you 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.000 get your quarterback back and then you start to win 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.200 some games. The offense kind of finds its way. Yeah, 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.320 you had a couple of bad losses along the way, 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.200 the green Bay loss, the jack Mille. You know, green 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.640 Bay they're fighting to get in the playoffs. Jacksonville looks 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.960 like a legitimate team. So that's not a bad loss 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:29.880 to me. Right now. When you when you did the 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.960 thing with Nick, when you're talking about when loss loss, 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.080 when you know, when you play that game with the schedule, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.520 Jacksonville was a w immediately said Jacksonville is no good. 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:42.120 It's a W So you know, to me, I was 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.520 I was super super super critical of Mike McCarthy, you know, 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:49.120 and what and I'm thinking, Okay, evaluate the coaching staff 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.520 this year. I think the coaching staff did a really 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.560 really nice job this year considering all the things. Now 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.200 they're might go, they might lose. The things are really 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.960 heating up for dan Quinn. They're really heating up for 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.920 dan Quinn. So you're gonna have to figure that out 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.240 right now. But how as far as the season goes. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:08.680 Somebody's telling me, hey, Brian, you know it's not sustainable. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.599 You can't lead to the league in turnover. You're getting 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.279 turn creating turnovers back to back. What do they do? 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:18.400 You know, despite their quarterback having issues with interceptions and 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.120 not all his fault, but you know, he gets to 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.560 blame for him. You know, they were one of the 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.800 top teams when it came to turning the getting people 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.440 to turn the ball over, sacks, pressures, things like that. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.000 You know they you know, every other year the record 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.560 they have is going to win the division. They there's 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.000 a hot team right now playing in Philadelphia. You know 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.360 there's a team you know it Usually you win twelve 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.640 thirteen games, you're talking about having the first overall seat. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.040 It took thirteen games for them to get that right. 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:51.120 So to me, I look at the season as like 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.479 I look at as super positive. You know, now you 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:59.279 have to figure out though, it's this is now over 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.400 and now you have to move on. You're probably gonna 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.040 have to replace some coaches, You're surely going to have 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.720 to replace some personnel, and then it starts all over again. 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.760 You know, what are your expectations. How's the draft? I mean, 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:12.760 they go out and they draft a kid. I'm sorry 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.240 I'm talking so long, but I am. You know this this. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:18.839 They go out and they draft a kid to play. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.560 They don't even give you his position. Tyler Smith. They 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.920 don't even tell you what he is. He's a left 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.719 side player, he's a he's a he's a just offense. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:28.960 He plays guard, he plays tackle, he plays guard, he 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.320 plays tackle. I mean what they got out of him 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.880 this year and some of these other players that they 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:38.039 have bland guys like that, when others, when your primary 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.200 corner goes down, your primary nickel goes down. To the 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:44.440 things that they were able to do. They finally got 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.680 Pollard going in this thing to the point where You're like, 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.000 man if when Pauler went out of the game, it's 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.680 like your whole offense went south. There was a time 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.720 where Paul how many touches he had in the game 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.960 last year, eight against the forty nine ers. I think 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.760 they figured out some things along the way. That's as 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.600 a former personnel, man if I was working in this building, 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.880 that's the positivity that I would take. I don't like 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.120 the fact that you get bounced in the division around 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.200 you know, nineteen points given up, you should score, You 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.520 should beat that. You should beat a team, you know 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.920 if they if you only give up nineteen points, they 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.680 didn't do that. Now it's my job to find some 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.240 ways to go and be to Philadelphia, go and be 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:26.000 to San Francisco, go to beat you beat Cincinnati, you know, 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.960 early in the year with a backup quarterback by the way. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.200 So to me, I think that, you know, it's not 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.640 the thud, you know, it's not that thud that you 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.880 normally face when it's when the season's over for me, 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.920 because I see more positive things than I really really 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:46.120 do negative things. Yeah, and we are all expecting some changes, 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.600 you know, whatever that is. We're expecting changes to happen 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:54.600 in the near future, and which is exciting in the 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.320 thought that it's a change at least, But to me 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.360 it's also a little frustrating because you look at what 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.360 you had with dan Quinn and the great thing that 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.320 he's been able to do. With Kellen Moore on the 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:12.280 other hand, he's also been he's done some great things 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.120 as well. He's kind of elevated the offense in certain ways. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.680 It just hasn't fully clicked, and you always feel like 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:22.080 you're just one little stepe away from everything just working 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:26.600 out perfectly now with a possible change like that, Nick, 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.120 I mean, and this is hard to say because you 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.679 don't know who would be the next guy. Yeah, um, 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.839 if that was to happen or he was asked the 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.640 question today on radio listening about you know, you know 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.040 who that guy would be or who dan Quinn wasn't 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:45.280 it or for Kellen he was for dan Quinn, Okay, 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.160 for Quinn and and but but yeah, for Kellen. I 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.600 mean it's tough. You are how far do you feel 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.840 they are from like just finding the right guy. And 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.360 that's a tough question. Okay, It's like it's it's you 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.720 have to look at it. LOWD what Mike McCarthy's track 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.839 record of hiring people. This is what we know about 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:08.200 Mike McCarthy. To me, Mike McCarthy, when he brought in 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:12.280 his friends, it didn't work out. When he went outside 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:16.640 of the friend bubble, he went and got Dan Quinn. 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:21.800 To me, now it's about it's Mike McCarthy going to say, Okay, 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.240 I went with Kellen Moore. You guys, you know I 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.520 didn't want to change things with Kellen Moore. I didn't 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.520 want to call his play. I didn't want to call plays, 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.040 you know. But if I feel comfortable with Brian Schottenheimer, 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.840 or I feel comfortable with Nathaniel Hackett, you know, those 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.920 kind of guys, that's going to be interesting to see 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.760 if Jerry and Will and Steven and then would say, Okay, 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.599 we're cool with you. The guy that could be the 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:48.840 favorite if they had to make, if that move is made, 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.480 is got to be Schottenheimer because he's been in the building. 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:55.199 You know, Jerry and Stephen and Will have actually seen 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.840 him work or know about his work, his body of work. 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.880 So if i'm I mean, I think there's a sense 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:06.040 of urgency within the Cowboy organization right now too. If 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.440 they're gonna make this move. There's no waiting around for 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.080 like Jason Garrett be hanging out in his office for 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.800 a week and like, oh well, hey, just kind of everything. 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:17.160 You know the Cowboys when when they're put up against it, 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.640 they'll go make a decision. But you got to put 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.720 him up against it. And maybe maybe Mike McCarthy, if 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.960 he wants to make a switch on Kellen Moore, wants 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.320 this where it's like, I gotta go get this guy 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:31.160 right now. Because of all these coaches that are being 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.600 interviewed for jobs, you lose those assistants, and I don't 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:38.520 think Mike McCarthy wants to lose a top assistant to 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:42.640 another team by waiting around. So if they're gonna do 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.120 something with Kelln Moore, I have a feeling it's gonna 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.839 be more sooner than later. To be honest with you, Well, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.960 let me change the question a little bit because I 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.880 know it's a tough one to answer without knowing all 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.720 the names and all that. But we know that Dak 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:59.120 Prescott is going to be here this upcoming season. He's 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.360 going to be your guy. Is there a style of 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:08.040 offensive coordinator that you think would fit better with the 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:11.120 type of quarterback that you currently have. I think you 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:16.280 got to get a coordinator that understands how to get 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.040 Dak on the move. You got to understand how to 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.280 how to I don't know if it's necessarily RPOs as much, 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.319 but but it can be. I mean, it could be that, 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.200 but it's got to be it's got to be a 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.240 guy that that's had some experience. And again I'm saying 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.560 all this because maybe there is going to be a change. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.120 I don't know if there will be, but there needs 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:37.480 to be. In my opinion, there needs to be a 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:41.280 change because you know, the quarterback won't change. It's not 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.200 going to change because the way the contract is structured, 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.079 it's just not going to happen. So just get that 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.240 through your head. But you can change the the you 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.679 know what's in his ear, and maybe he does need 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.920 to kind of just a refresh, a different start. I 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.440 think it needs to be somebody that has experienced with 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.960 mobile quarterbacks. Excuse me, they can get their guy on 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.480 the move a little bit and getting choked up talking 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.439 about the offensive coordinator. I just think it needs to 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:11.000 be somebody that has some experience and a guy obviously 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.199 can't just stand in the pod because that's not Dak's strength. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.360 So get him moving around a little bit and understand 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.560 somebody that he can relate to when it comes to 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.760 the checks. What does he checking into, what is he 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.120 checking out of? Things like that. But I mean, I 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.120 think Helen has done a really good job. But it's 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.840 almost like this is as far as it's gone and 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.400 needs to be more than that. Yeah, I agree with that. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.600 That's I think it's well said. But you know, you 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.800 get to a point bat with Dak. It's to me, 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:40.160 it's you know that Dak always plays with challenges. There's 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.960 always challenges to Dak's game, you know, and maybe you 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.480 need to get that guy that it will challenge him 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.319 in that way. You know. Maybe I think the biggest 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:54.520 problems that Dak has is how he sees what's going 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.560 on once the play, once the ball snapped. You know, 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.359 There's been plenty of times a lot of these intercepts 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:04.720 I believe are due to you know, like the forty 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:06.800 nine ers came out after this game and we're talking 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.120 about you know, and Jimmy Ward was the one that 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.720 said at the nickel corner for them, he says Dak 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:15.480 can't play against zone defenses can't play against zone That's 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.680 that's not my opinion. That's somebody that just competed against him, 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.400 you know, Jimmy Ward. The ball bounced off him. Number 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.000 one goes to you know, Fred Warner, and you know 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.040 that's you know, now you've got an interception. But his 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:32.720 assessment of playing against Dak Prescott and right or wrong 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:37.880 is that he cannot play against zone defenses. So if 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.800 that's what teams are going to do, if everybody's sitting 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.000 down watching, they need to figure out whoever the next doc, 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.160 if there's a next doc, if there's a next doc. 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.760 But to Nix's point, I agree with him. I think 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.600 you've run your course with you know, with Kellen Moore here, 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:54.600 you know, I think you've run your course. I think 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.120 there needs to be a different voice in his ear. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.360 I think they're you know, and we get trouble a 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.640 lot of time because you guys, you guys live in 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.760 this building. I used to live in this building. You 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.160 have to go to the lunch room and all of 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.040 a sudden, these coaches and people hear about, well, hey 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.720 we're talking about this and talking about that. That's your job. 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.440 That's your job. But these people that's their livelihood. And 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.800 so everybody takes that a little bit more personal, but 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.080 it's reality. It is reality. If you want to find 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.200 ways to move on, you've got to elevate, you've got 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.000 to go and and and maybe do something a little 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.160 different that you're not comfortable with. Yeah, and let me 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.280 let's throw one more thing else about the Dak. When 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.520 I said that about Dak, you know that's he's not 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:39.080 going anywhere or the contract. Let me make another thing 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.280 clear on that too, And listening to Jerry the other 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:47.240 day after the game, Dak is the quarterback because that's 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.840 who Jerry also believes is going to be the guy. 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.520 It's not just like they're stuck with a contract. This 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.280 is the contract that he's got. And yes, you can't 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.080 just make changes on it, but I don't think that 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.920 they would want to anyways. I mean, I really truly 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.120 believe that the Cowboys are fully supporting him and and 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.320 I think Dat can get it done. I really do. 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.160 I think that he needs help and it's tough to 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.520 do that. Look at the look at the quarterbacks that 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.840 are in it right now for the NFC, Look at 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.280 the guys that are in there. It's Brock Purty and 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:20.800 it's Jalen Hurts. They're probably making a combine two million 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.840 dollars this year. I mean that means there's a lot 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.680 of money out there for other guys, defense, offense, a 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.200 lot of weapons. That Cowboys did have that for about 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.840 three years until Dat got the big deal, and he 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.160 kind of wondered, man, should did they waste an opportunity? 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.960 They were having a really good quarterback at a really 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.040 low number. But now he's got a big number. It's 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.680 hard to find those pieces around him. But yet he 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.560 needs them. He needs them. I think the Cowboys though 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.440 they're not they're not stuck in a contract with him. 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.640 They totally believe Dak is the guy. But they're gonna 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.480 have to figure it out and draft free agency. You 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.400 have to draft smart. You can't have and I'm not 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.640 trying to put blame on Jalen Tilbert at all or 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.360 anything like that, because that was the only negative part 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.280 of that draft class. But they gotta hit on the 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.920 guys like that for cheap. They gotta have young players 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:13.000 in the first contract that are contributing and making money 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.440 to offset some of the big numbers that you have, 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:21.200 which is another reason why losing that dan Quinn, it's 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:25.720 gonna be huge, a huge loss because of his ability 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:31.479 to make something out of a player that isn't necessarily 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:36.840 valued high. For example, all these free agents guys that 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.720 come in veteran guys at a lower prize that it's 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:44.160 not like a big splash in the market. Kers did 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.120 a great job just developing those players, even the rookines. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.320 I mean, yeah, talk about those guys I have shine 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.880 through what dan Quinn has been able to do. Yeah. See, 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.600 that's that's the beauty of having a guy like dan 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.240 Quinn that works shoulder to shoulder with will McClay and 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.960 Steven Jones on personnel. Dan has had you know, he's 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.359 had his h you know, he put a lot of 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.440 trust into Kelvin Joseph. Kelvin Joseph looked just too big 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.879 for him out there this year. It did. But what 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.280 did Kelvin Joseph do on special teams? That's what you 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.760 saw growth. You saw I made a huge play in 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.359 that game the other day, so you know, yeah, I 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.560 mean that's the thing about it is when you go 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.560 out there and you talk about the Sam williams Izzie 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:27.160 mcquomwu guys like that. Yeah, right, all these guys. Yeah, 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.160 they you know, he's put his stamp on a lot 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.480 of guys and it's come up big for him. And 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.040 and and I keep saying this. You know, he took 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.359 an injury, but he had a plan for what to 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.240 do with Michael Parsons last year. I did not see 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:44.000 Michael Parsons rushed the passer like that at Penn Stake. 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.240 And I've asked a ton of scouts around the league, 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.000 not just the cowboy scouts, but there's scouts are like, man, 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.840 this is something that we didn't see. So if you 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.320 do lose a guy like Dan Quinn, you do lose 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.159 the vision for the player. You'd lose the evaluation of 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.520 the player. And that's the tough thing about it is 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.240 trying to find somebody that could step in and do 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.080 the job as well as he did. And I told 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.240 this story, I think on the air one time. But 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.680 back at the end of training camp, trying to cut 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.040 down the roster and all that, I asked a few 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.720 people like, are we sure that Donovan Wilson is safe? 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.360 I mean, he hasn't done a whole lot. I mean, 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.360 he got a lot of other safeties. I mean, does 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.760 he have to make the team. And someone told me 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.119 that Donovan, that dan Quinn had said the one player 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.080 he's the most excited about this year was Donovan Wilson 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.120 and how the different things he can do with him. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.120 What he did. He leads to the team and tackles, 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.480 He's got sacks, he's got fumbles, pressures. Yeah, yeah, oh 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.320 he was. He was an aggressive. He was one of 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.879 the reasons why your run defense got better is a year, 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:44.159 I mean him, vander esh curse, you know, Hankins. They 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.480 got better. They had problems, they had problems early in 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:49.440 the year, and they didn't just put their head in 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.760 the sand. They tried a bunch of guys at corner, 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.240 they tried a bunch of guys at slot. They went 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:56.760 and got a big time A guy made a trade, 0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:00.600 a small trade to get a big time body inside. Ah. 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.720 I mean that's you know. You you you got to 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:04.760 give these coaches a lot of credit along with the 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.080 personnel staff for what they were able to do. He's 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.800 going to be a free agent to Donovan Wilson, and 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:14.640 and I just wonder if dan Quinn does take another job. Yeah, man, 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.399 you know that that's going to be one of his 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.560 first guys that he's trying to take because he, like 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.320 I said, he had a vision for him and he 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.200 knows what to do is he's just a unique player. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.520 But you know the Cowboys can can do something about 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.480 that that too. You know, I'm not saying you franchise 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:30.280 tag him, but you know they can do something. They're 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.880 gonna lose some guys they probably don't want to lose yet, 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.320 free agents. 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