1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 4 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought us, and 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hey, guys, welcome back to 8 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: another episode of The Break Uh presented by Miller Lite, 9 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. I'm joined by Nick, Brian. 10 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Derek should be joining us here in a little bit, 11 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: but we're gonna go ahead and start the show. And 12 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: this isn't necessarily what people want to hear or talk 13 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: about right now. You know, we got the we ended 14 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: the season, but it's time to kind of get into 15 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,919 Speaker 1: that offseason mode. And I wanted to ask you guys, 16 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: despite the end result and the loss that we just 17 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: went through and experienced against the forty nine ers, how 18 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: would you qualify this season when you go you know, 19 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: people doing their exit interviews and all that. If you 20 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: sit down and have to look at the overall and 21 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: feeling aside, how would you really qualify and review the season. 22 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a good season, and I know that 23 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: what's been talked about on the radio and people have 24 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: to debate about it, and and I just I don't 25 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: understand how it would be viewed anything different. And if 26 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: and if so, you know, this is why why we 27 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: get asked the questions earlier in the year, what's your 28 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: record for the season, what do you think it's going 29 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: to be. Um, I didn't hear any any twelve and 30 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: twelve and fives and and playoff, you know, go to 31 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: the division around. I didn't hear that. UM. I heard 32 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: nine and nine and eight and ten and seven and 33 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: and and maybe wild cards or sneak in. But so 34 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: I think I think expectations were way exceeded. UM And 35 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: I think you know you I saw things this year 36 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen ever and the time I was here. 37 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: So I don't live my life that way, thinking that 38 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: it's got to be Super Bowl or bust, because I 39 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: would have been I would have been gone time. So 40 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't view that way. And if people 41 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: that's you know, I don't know. How was your weekend? 42 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: It was good? Did you win the lottery? Well know, well, 43 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: then how is it good? I mean, like, I don't 44 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: live like that. I think you can have you can 45 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: have you said it before. Something that I guess I've 46 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: never actually given thought is these people whoever comes in 47 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: that's new head coach and new head coach players, they 48 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: have to deal with that type of burden that is 49 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: not their fault. They come in here and have to 50 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: deal with of the years and years and years right 51 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: where the Cowboys franchise hasn't gone back to a super 52 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: Bowl and deal with that. So that's something that people 53 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: don't realize. And I get it people are fed up, 54 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: but it's it's what it is. Brian. Yeah, you went 55 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: four out of five games with a backup quarterback when 56 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: your season in week one just looked like you know, 57 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: we make jokes about talking about the draft, show everything, 58 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: every it was the doom and gloom that was in 59 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: this building after Week one. The fan base around the 60 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: world was like, what are we going to do? Now? 61 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: You know we've got it, now we've got what, We've 62 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: got sixteen more weeks of this? Are you kidding me? 63 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: You know? And that's and that's the thing you look 64 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: at and you say, man, you went four of the 65 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: five games with a backup quarterback when none of us. 66 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say none of us. I didn't think Cooper 67 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: Rush could do it. No, I didn't think it. I'll 68 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: tell you what. Dan Quinn made this defense better last year. 69 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: It was you're thinking, man, what's dan Quinn going to do? 70 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: Smoke and mirrors? How's he going to do? This? Led 71 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: the lad the egan in turnovers last year. You know, 72 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: did things got in the playoffs? Yeah, you got beat 73 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: by San Francisco. Kind of figured out ways along how 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: to win games last year, you know, But your defense 75 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: carries you the first half of this season. Then you 76 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: get your quarterback back and then you start to win 77 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: some games. The offense kind of finds its way. Yeah, 78 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: you had a couple of bad losses along the way, 79 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: the green Bay loss, the jack Mille. You know, green 80 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: Bay they're fighting to get in the playoffs. Jacksonville looks 81 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: like a legitimate team. So that's not a bad loss 82 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: to me. Right now. When you when you did the 83 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: thing with Nick, when you're talking about when loss loss, 84 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: when you know, when you play that game with the schedule, 85 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: Jacksonville was a w immediately said Jacksonville is no good. 86 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: It's a W So you know, to me, I was 87 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: I was super super super critical of Mike McCarthy, you know, 88 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: and what and I'm thinking, Okay, evaluate the coaching staff 89 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: this year. I think the coaching staff did a really 90 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: really nice job this year considering all the things. Now 91 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: they're might go, they might lose. The things are really 92 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: heating up for dan Quinn. They're really heating up for 93 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: dan Quinn. So you're gonna have to figure that out 94 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: right now. But how as far as the season goes. 95 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: Somebody's telling me, hey, Brian, you know it's not sustainable. 96 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: You can't lead to the league in turnover. You're getting 97 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: turn creating turnovers back to back. What do they do? 98 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: You know, despite their quarterback having issues with interceptions and 99 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: not all his fault, but you know, he gets to 100 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: blame for him. You know, they were one of the 101 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: top teams when it came to turning the getting people 102 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: to turn the ball over, sacks, pressures, things like that. 103 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: You know they you know, every other year the record 104 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: they have is going to win the division. They there's 105 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: a hot team right now playing in Philadelphia. You know 106 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: there's a team you know it Usually you win twelve 107 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: thirteen games, you're talking about having the first overall seat. 108 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: It took thirteen games for them to get that right. 109 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: So to me, I look at the season as like 110 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: I look at as super positive. You know, now you 111 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: have to figure out though, it's this is now over 112 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: and now you have to move on. You're probably gonna 113 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: have to replace some coaches, You're surely going to have 114 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: to replace some personnel, and then it starts all over again. 115 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: You know, what are your expectations. How's the draft? I mean, 116 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: they go out and they draft a kid. I'm sorry 117 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking so long, but I am. You know this this. 118 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: They go out and they draft a kid to play. 119 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: They don't even give you his position. Tyler Smith. They 120 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: don't even tell you what he is. He's a left 121 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: side player, he's a he's a he's a just offense. 122 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: He plays guard, he plays tackle, he plays guard, he 123 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: plays tackle. I mean what they got out of him 124 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: this year and some of these other players that they 125 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: have bland guys like that, when others, when your primary 126 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: corner goes down, your primary nickel goes down. To the 127 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: things that they were able to do. They finally got 128 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: Pollard going in this thing to the point where You're like, 129 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: man if when Pauler went out of the game, it's 130 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: like your whole offense went south. There was a time 131 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: where Paul how many touches he had in the game 132 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: last year, eight against the forty nine ers. I think 133 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: they figured out some things along the way. That's as 134 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: a former personnel, man if I was working in this building, 135 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: that's the positivity that I would take. I don't like 136 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: the fact that you get bounced in the division around 137 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, nineteen points given up, you should score, You 138 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: should beat that. You should beat a team, you know 139 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: if they if you only give up nineteen points, they 140 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: didn't do that. Now it's my job to find some 141 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: ways to go and be to Philadelphia, go and be 142 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: to San Francisco, go to beat you beat Cincinnati, you know, 143 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: early in the year with a backup quarterback by the way. 144 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: So to me, I think that, you know, it's not 145 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: the thud, you know, it's not that thud that you 146 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: normally face when it's when the season's over for me, 147 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: because I see more positive things than I really really 148 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: do negative things. Yeah, and we are all expecting some changes, 149 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, whatever that is. We're expecting changes to happen 150 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: in the near future, and which is exciting in the 151 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: thought that it's a change at least, But to me 152 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: it's also a little frustrating because you look at what 153 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: you had with dan Quinn and the great thing that 154 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: he's been able to do. With Kellen Moore on the 155 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: other hand, he's also been he's done some great things 156 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: as well. He's kind of elevated the offense in certain ways. 157 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: It just hasn't fully clicked, and you always feel like 158 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: you're just one little stepe away from everything just working 159 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: out perfectly now with a possible change like that, Nick, 160 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: I mean, and this is hard to say because you 161 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: don't know who would be the next guy. Yeah, um, 162 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: if that was to happen or he was asked the 163 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: question today on radio listening about you know, you know 164 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: who that guy would be or who dan Quinn wasn't 165 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: it or for Kellen he was for dan Quinn, Okay, 166 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: for Quinn and and but but yeah, for Kellen. I 167 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: mean it's tough. You are how far do you feel 168 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: they are from like just finding the right guy. And 169 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: that's a tough question. Okay, It's like it's it's you 170 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: have to look at it. LOWD what Mike McCarthy's track 171 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: record of hiring people. This is what we know about 172 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. To me, Mike McCarthy, when he brought in 173 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: his friends, it didn't work out. When he went outside 174 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: of the friend bubble, he went and got Dan Quinn. 175 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: To me, now it's about it's Mike McCarthy going to say, Okay, 176 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: I went with Kellen Moore. You guys, you know I 177 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: didn't want to change things with Kellen Moore. I didn't 178 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: want to call his play. I didn't want to call plays, 179 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: you know. But if I feel comfortable with Brian Schottenheimer, 180 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: or I feel comfortable with Nathaniel Hackett, you know, those 181 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: kind of guys, that's going to be interesting to see 182 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: if Jerry and Will and Steven and then would say, Okay, 183 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 1: we're cool with you. The guy that could be the 184 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: favorite if they had to make, if that move is made, 185 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: is got to be Schottenheimer because he's been in the building. 186 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: You know, Jerry and Stephen and Will have actually seen 187 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: him work or know about his work, his body of work. 188 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: So if i'm I mean, I think there's a sense 189 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: of urgency within the Cowboy organization right now too. If 190 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna make this move. There's no waiting around for 191 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: like Jason Garrett be hanging out in his office for 192 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: a week and like, oh well, hey, just kind of everything. 193 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: You know the Cowboys when when they're put up against it, 194 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: they'll go make a decision. But you got to put 195 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: him up against it. And maybe maybe Mike McCarthy, if 196 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: he wants to make a switch on Kellen Moore, wants 197 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: this where it's like, I gotta go get this guy 198 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: right now. Because of all these coaches that are being 199 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: interviewed for jobs, you lose those assistants, and I don't 200 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: think Mike McCarthy wants to lose a top assistant to 201 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: another team by waiting around. So if they're gonna do 202 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: something with Kelln Moore, I have a feeling it's gonna 203 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: be more sooner than later. To be honest with you, Well, 204 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: let me change the question a little bit because I 205 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: know it's a tough one to answer without knowing all 206 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: the names and all that. But we know that Dak 207 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: Prescott is going to be here this upcoming season. He's 208 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: going to be your guy. Is there a style of 209 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator that you think would fit better with the 210 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: type of quarterback that you currently have. I think you 211 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: got to get a coordinator that understands how to get 212 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: Dak on the move. You got to understand how to 213 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: how to I don't know if it's necessarily RPOs as much, 214 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: but but it can be. I mean, it could be that, 215 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: but it's got to be it's got to be a 216 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: guy that that's had some experience. And again I'm saying 217 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: all this because maybe there is going to be a change. 218 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if there will be, but there needs 219 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: to be. In my opinion, there needs to be a 220 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: change because you know, the quarterback won't change. It's not 221 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: going to change because the way the contract is structured, 222 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: it's just not going to happen. So just get that 223 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: through your head. But you can change the the you 224 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: know what's in his ear, and maybe he does need 225 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: to kind of just a refresh, a different start. I 226 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: think it needs to be somebody that has experienced with 227 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks. Excuse me, they can get their guy on 228 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: the move a little bit and getting choked up talking 229 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: about the offensive coordinator. I just think it needs to 230 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: be somebody that has some experience and a guy obviously 231 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: can't just stand in the pod because that's not Dak's strength. 232 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: So get him moving around a little bit and understand 233 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: somebody that he can relate to when it comes to 234 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: the checks. What does he checking into, what is he 235 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: checking out of? Things like that. But I mean, I 236 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: think Helen has done a really good job. But it's 237 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: almost like this is as far as it's gone and 238 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: needs to be more than that. Yeah, I agree with that. 239 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: That's I think it's well said. But you know, you 240 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: get to a point bat with Dak. It's to me, 241 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: it's you know that Dak always plays with challenges. There's 242 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: always challenges to Dak's game, you know, and maybe you 243 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: need to get that guy that it will challenge him 244 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: in that way. You know. Maybe I think the biggest 245 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: problems that Dak has is how he sees what's going 246 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: on once the play, once the ball snapped. You know, 247 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,359 Speaker 1: There's been plenty of times a lot of these intercepts 248 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: I believe are due to you know, like the forty 249 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: nine ers came out after this game and we're talking 250 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: about you know, and Jimmy Ward was the one that 251 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: said at the nickel corner for them, he says Dak 252 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: can't play against zone defenses can't play against zone That's 253 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: that's not my opinion. That's somebody that just competed against him, 254 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Ward. The ball bounced off him. Number 255 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: one goes to you know, Fred Warner, and you know 256 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: that's you know, now you've got an interception. But his 257 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: assessment of playing against Dak Prescott and right or wrong 258 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: is that he cannot play against zone defenses. So if 259 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: that's what teams are going to do, if everybody's sitting 260 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: down watching, they need to figure out whoever the next doc, 261 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: if there's a next doc, if there's a next doc. 262 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: But to Nix's point, I agree with him. I think 263 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: you've run your course with you know, with Kellen Moore here, 264 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, I think you've run your course. I think 265 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: there needs to be a different voice in his ear. 266 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: I think they're you know, and we get trouble a 267 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: lot of time because you guys, you guys live in 268 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: this building. I used to live in this building. You 269 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: have to go to the lunch room and all of 270 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, these coaches and people hear about, well, hey 271 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about this and talking about that. That's your job. 272 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: That's your job. But these people that's their livelihood. And 273 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: so everybody takes that a little bit more personal, but 274 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: it's reality. It is reality. If you want to find 275 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: ways to move on, you've got to elevate, you've got 276 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: to go and and and maybe do something a little 277 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: different that you're not comfortable with. Yeah, and let me 278 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: let's throw one more thing else about the Dak. When 279 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: I said that about Dak, you know that's he's not 280 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: going anywhere or the contract. Let me make another thing 281 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: clear on that too, And listening to Jerry the other 282 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: day after the game, Dak is the quarterback because that's 283 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: who Jerry also believes is going to be the guy. 284 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: It's not just like they're stuck with a contract. This 285 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: is the contract that he's got. And yes, you can't 286 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: just make changes on it, but I don't think that 287 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: they would want to anyways. I mean, I really truly 288 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: believe that the Cowboys are fully supporting him and and 289 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: I think Dat can get it done. I really do. 290 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: I think that he needs help and it's tough to 291 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: do that. Look at the look at the quarterbacks that 292 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: are in it right now for the NFC, Look at 293 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: the guys that are in there. It's Brock Purty and 294 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: it's Jalen Hurts. They're probably making a combine two million 295 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: dollars this year. I mean that means there's a lot 296 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: of money out there for other guys, defense, offense, a 297 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: lot of weapons. That Cowboys did have that for about 298 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: three years until Dat got the big deal, and he 299 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: kind of wondered, man, should did they waste an opportunity? 300 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: They were having a really good quarterback at a really 301 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: low number. But now he's got a big number. It's 302 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: hard to find those pieces around him. But yet he 303 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: needs them. He needs them. I think the Cowboys though 304 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: they're not they're not stuck in a contract with him. 305 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: They totally believe Dak is the guy. But they're gonna 306 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: have to figure it out and draft free agency. You 307 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: have to draft smart. You can't have and I'm not 308 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: trying to put blame on Jalen Tilbert at all or 309 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: anything like that, because that was the only negative part 310 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: of that draft class. But they gotta hit on the 311 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: guys like that for cheap. They gotta have young players 312 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: in the first contract that are contributing and making money 313 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: to offset some of the big numbers that you have, 314 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: which is another reason why losing that dan Quinn, it's 315 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: gonna be huge, a huge loss because of his ability 316 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:31,479 Speaker 1: to make something out of a player that isn't necessarily 317 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: valued high. For example, all these free agents guys that 318 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: come in veteran guys at a lower prize that it's 319 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: not like a big splash in the market. Kers did 320 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: a great job just developing those players, even the rookines. 321 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, talk about those guys I have shine 322 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: through what dan Quinn has been able to do. Yeah. See, 323 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: that's that's the beauty of having a guy like dan 324 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: Quinn that works shoulder to shoulder with will McClay and 325 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: Steven Jones on personnel. Dan has had you know, he's 326 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: had his h you know, he put a lot of 327 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: trust into Kelvin Joseph. Kelvin Joseph looked just too big 328 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: for him out there this year. It did. But what 329 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: did Kelvin Joseph do on special teams? That's what you 330 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: saw growth. You saw I made a huge play in 331 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: that game the other day, so you know, yeah, I 332 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: mean that's the thing about it is when you go 333 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: out there and you talk about the Sam williams Izzie 334 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: mcquomwu guys like that. Yeah, right, all these guys. Yeah, 335 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: they you know, he's put his stamp on a lot 336 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: of guys and it's come up big for him. And 337 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: and and I keep saying this. You know, he took 338 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: an injury, but he had a plan for what to 339 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: do with Michael Parsons last year. I did not see 340 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons rushed the passer like that at Penn Stake. 341 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: And I've asked a ton of scouts around the league, 342 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: not just the cowboy scouts, but there's scouts are like, man, 343 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: this is something that we didn't see. So if you 344 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: do lose a guy like Dan Quinn, you do lose 345 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: the vision for the player. You'd lose the evaluation of 346 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: the player. And that's the tough thing about it is 347 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: trying to find somebody that could step in and do 348 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: the job as well as he did. And I told 349 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: this story, I think on the air one time. But 350 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: back at the end of training camp, trying to cut 351 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: down the roster and all that, I asked a few 352 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: people like, are we sure that Donovan Wilson is safe? 353 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't done a whole lot. I mean, 354 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: he got a lot of other safeties. I mean, does 355 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: he have to make the team. And someone told me 356 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: that Donovan, that dan Quinn had said the one player 357 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: he's the most excited about this year was Donovan Wilson 358 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: and how the different things he can do with him. 359 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: What he did. He leads to the team and tackles, 360 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: He's got sacks, he's got fumbles, pressures. Yeah, yeah, oh 361 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: he was. He was an aggressive. He was one of 362 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: the reasons why your run defense got better is a year, 363 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: I mean him, vander esh curse, you know, Hankins. They 364 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: got better. They had problems, they had problems early in 365 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: the year, and they didn't just put their head in 366 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: the sand. They tried a bunch of guys at corner, 367 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: they tried a bunch of guys at slot. They went 368 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: and got a big time A guy made a trade, 369 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: a small trade to get a big time body inside. Ah. 370 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean that's you know. You you you got to 371 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: give these coaches a lot of credit along with the 372 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: personnel staff for what they were able to do. He's 373 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: going to be a free agent to Donovan Wilson, and 374 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: and I just wonder if dan Quinn does take another job. Yeah, man, 375 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: you know that that's going to be one of his 376 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: first guys that he's trying to take because he, like 377 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: I said, he had a vision for him and he 378 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: knows what to do is he's just a unique player. 379 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: But you know the Cowboys can can do something about 380 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: that that too. You know, I'm not saying you franchise 381 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: tag him, but you know they can do something. They're 382 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: gonna lose some guys they probably don't want to lose yet, 383 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: free agents. 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All right? 432 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you guys, this is all a 433 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: suit of thinking, you know, hypotheticals. We don't know if 434 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: any of these coaches are leaving or anything. Like that 435 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: just yet. But if dan Quinn does end up leaving, 436 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: what's something that you feel he might be able to 437 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: leave behind. I can stay here with the Cowboys because 438 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: he's no, no, no, I'm saying just whatever in general, 439 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: because we know if he's yes, like the stamp he 440 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: put on this yeah, yes, he said it, he said it. 441 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean he turned Michael Parsons into a two way 442 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: rusher and linebacker. That was a that's a huge, huge 443 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: thing that that he that he put on the on 444 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: this team. But you know, that's a tough question because 445 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: when you get a new person again, this is all hypothetical, 446 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: but welcome to the offseason, because that's what you know, 447 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: the words might and could and should and maybe perhaps 448 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: all all come into play here. So um, a new 449 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: new coordinator is going to also have you know, his 450 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: role on it as well, and he's gonna say, well, 451 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: I like to do things a little bit different and 452 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: and that's and that's okay too, because as great as 453 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: dan Quinn was and is as a and you you'd 454 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: hate to miss him. You know, this defense, they they 455 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: they had some some problems. I mean, there was some 456 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: some times like the Eagles game and this game here 457 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: where they needed to get the ball back and get 458 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: off the field, and an eight minute drive kept them 459 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: on the field. I mean, I'm not trying to be 460 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: critical of a team that gave up nineteen points to 461 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, but you know they had their 462 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: moments too. They didn't get the turnover that on defense 463 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: that that the forty nine ers did. Um, so there's 464 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: room for improvement. But man, is they're going to be 465 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: completely missed if if they do. When you look at 466 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: everything we had before that, Oh yeah, this is like 467 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: it's it's it's I'm not I'm not being critical, but 468 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: it's you know, Dan Quinn would sit in that chair 469 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 1: or right there and he would say, hey, we we 470 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: we needed to do better. We had to get off 471 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: the field and make stopped. So there's room for improvement 472 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: with the defense. What area of the defense do you 473 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: think was the strength of this team? What what position group? 474 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: H I would probably say, you're defensive ends, defensive line, 475 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. But we know it took 476 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: kind of like a dip. Yeah, as the season went on, 477 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, they started really really good and then eventually 478 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: opposing teams started kind of figuring them out. Okay, this 479 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: is what you need to worry about. Like if Dan 480 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: Quinn were to go, who would he take off staff? Right? 481 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: If you really feel like, you know, with a D 482 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: as the defensive line coach always Jack his name and 483 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: it's called dirty and dirty. Yeah, So if you if 484 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: you were if you felt like that was the strength 485 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: of your team, of your defense, and all of a 486 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: sudden Dan leaves and he takes a D with him. 487 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: You know, now you've weakened not only your coordinator, but 488 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: you've weakened a position that you felt like got better 489 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: as the year went on. And so you know, now 490 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: it comes down to, well, how do you feel about 491 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: Joe Witt? You know, how do you feel about George 492 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: Edwards who has been you know, those guys have been 493 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: coordinators before. You know, how do you feel about that? 494 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: You know? Or do you do you go out? Do 495 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: you go out and get somebody else? Do you go 496 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: out and get Vic Fangio from you know he used 497 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: to be at Denver who was a head coach and 498 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, do you go out and 499 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: then you get a Brian Flores who used to be 500 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: with you know when he's with New England and then 501 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: and then the Dolphins. You know, do you go because 502 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: the one thing I would do me personally, I think 503 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: that it proved by going and getting dan Quinn, going 504 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: to getting dan Quinn, it proved it going outside your 505 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: comfort bubble of who you you you know, because his 506 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: first staff here were guys that he knew. It was. 507 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: It was guys he'd worked with. It was it was 508 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: you know, Joe Philbin's offensive line coach. It's it's Scott Tolzine, 509 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: who he had before. You know, he was a coach, 510 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: a player and all that. It was Mike Nolan who 511 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: his dad, Mike gave him, but not his dad, Mike 512 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: gave him a job. It was Jim tom Sula who 513 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: kept him around in San Francisco. Sometimes hiring your friends 514 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: as a terrible idea, a terrible idea. And if we learned, 515 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: if Mike McCarthy learned anything, open that net up, cast 516 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: that net big, you know, cast the net big, and 517 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: go and talk to these guys that I just mentioned, 518 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: whether it was that guy in Denver, that guy with 519 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think he's in Pittsburgh. Now what floor is, 520 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, go out and talk to these guys. There's 521 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 1: gonna be some coaches that are that are getting let 522 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: off staffs right now that might be worth your while. 523 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: Don't just sit there and say, well, I'm really comfortable 524 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: with George Edwards. Yeah, continuity and stuff's good, it really is. 525 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: But they prove continuity with the offensive line. They could 526 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: you could play with it. You can, you can, you 527 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: don't have to have it, you know, I'm I'm to me. 528 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: When you start hiring like minded people all the time, 529 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: your team doesn't go anywhere. You don't go anywhere. Hire 530 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: people that might be smarter than you. You know, that's 531 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: that is a really interesting dilemma because you you are 532 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: right when it comes to that this team that even 533 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: the defense, everything needs a little bit of a jolt um. 534 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: And that's the balance. I think that's so tough for 535 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: owners GM's head coaches in any level is do you 536 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: want to shake it up and try to take that 537 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: next level or are you want to stick with the 538 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: continuity and the building process and go, hey, we're right there, 539 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: we really want to tinker with it. We you know, 540 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: were right there. I tend to agree with you that 541 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: maybe a different voice is needed, especially on offense. Yeah 542 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: for Dak, but for defense. That's a tricky one too. 543 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: I could I could definitely love to be a fly 544 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: on the wall in that room that says, hey, we're 545 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: right there, guys, George Edwards or whoever has been here, 546 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: let's let them be the d s. He knows Mica, 547 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: he knows what he can do, he knows how you know, 548 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: he knows these guys. But I could also understand this 549 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: what is this getting you? Yeah, getting you to this play. 550 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: It got you the wild card, it got you the divisional, 551 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: it got you the turnovers to got you the sacks. Yeah, 552 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: sometimes players need something different. Yeah, you know, sometimes players 553 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden come in and they're like going, 554 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: huh oh. Dan Quinn was a lot different than Mike Nolan, 555 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: a lot different, and it's what they needed. You know. 556 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: As long as Will I have full faith, I think 557 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: we all do have full faith that Will McClay is 558 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: going to understand what kind of players because he's always 559 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: going to ask the coaches. He's always gonna now he 560 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: will say, well, listen, you really want that guy or 561 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: we got this guy. So that's where it's gonna come to. 562 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: That's where Dan and Will worked out the best because 563 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: they were shoulder to shoulder on a lot of these players. 564 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: But you look at what the defense approved. The defense 565 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: got better with a different voice with Kellen it it's good, 566 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: But is it dan Quinn level how we've seen? 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You can get your fan pack, exclusive 621 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: benefits and more of Visit Dallas Cowby dot com slash 622 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: United for more details. All right, welcome back. This is 623 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: the third segment, and thank you to everyone sending in questions. 624 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna try to kind of knock them out real quick. 625 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: First question, we know Jerry was able to do this 626 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: last year, but do you guys think Jerry Jones could 627 00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: sweeten the pot for dan Quinn and somehow manage to 628 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: keep him once again. I think he's already being paid 629 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: like a head coach. He already is that. That's something 630 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: I have that reported on reliable knowledge there for me, 631 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: I am the connections that I have. You know, with Dan, 632 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: I think there's I say this a bunch Nick will 633 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. There's only thirty two of these. 634 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: You know dan Quinn is he has a hot commodity. 635 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: He interviews very well. He comes off as a guy 636 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: that has a plan, has answers. All you have to 637 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: do is watch his tape from the last two years. 638 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: Pull up any interview he's done, any press conference that 639 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: he's done on Dallas Cowboys dot com, and watch how 640 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: he interacts with the media, how he handles himself, how 641 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: the players talk about him. You know this. You got 642 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: really fortunate last year that the Denver Broncos made a 643 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: huge mistake. He was going to be their guy. Yeah, 644 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: he was going, and it's just there's too many there's 645 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: too many, too many things happening right now that there's 646 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: people that believe that the job that he's probably best 647 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: suited for is the Colts job. That's the one where 648 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: he'll have probably the least amount of interference. Denver could 649 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: have some interference. Arizona could have some interference there. But 650 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: he is he is, He is the number one or 651 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: two candidate at all three of those spots. There's no 652 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: way of sweetening it. Jerry did a great job. The inevitably, 653 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: what happens is you're going to lose good people you 654 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: are unless you know. Now he could he could say, Okay, 655 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, you're not coaching anymore, and Dan you're the 656 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: head coach, so you know, but that's not going to happen, 657 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: all right, this person. Larry says, I don't think any 658 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: offense coordinator offensive coordinator is the answer. Besides that option, 659 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: what can be done to coach dak to see the 660 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: field better? I disagree. I mean, I do think he's 661 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: got to have a different coordinator, different system. I mean, 662 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: like like we said earlier, Bryan said about about you 663 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 1: know if zone defense is kind of the crux right now. 664 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to have to that was a 665 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: player that a player on a posing teams to that. 666 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 1: And I know people reach a Twitter at me like wait, 667 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: tour Philadelphia up and all that. I'm like, okay, I'm 668 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm not It's not me. It's it's me saying the 669 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: player that he competed against this weekend, that was his 670 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: observation or playing against. Danny's not the only one that 671 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: says that, I mean, And that's that's been a criticism 672 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: of that processing reading. Look at some of the intersect, 673 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: look at a lot of the interceptions. A lot of 674 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: them are have been like down the middle of the 675 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: field where he's trying to eat him and you know, CD, 676 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: you've got to get on the same page and things 677 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: like that. Um I if you know, the question is 678 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: doesn't need a new offensive order, that's fine. That that's 679 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: an opinion. Uh, and maybe that won't happen. I kind 680 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: of think it does. But but I think it's essentially 681 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: we all agree that he just needs a different voice, 682 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: whether that's somebody else that you bring. Because I've seen 683 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: people kind of here bringing up the example as we 684 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: mentioned I think it's different, but I think it's a 685 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: different offense. Though I do think it's a different offense. 686 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: It's he's got to understand the concepts of it, and 687 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's just not getting the same right now. I 688 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: think that that different receivers, not a whole lot of 689 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: different receivers, but I think just the concept of what 690 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: they're doing. Speaking of different receiver, next question, should the 691 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: Cowboys make a move on oh b J this offseason? 692 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: We're doing that again? Yeah, I guess. So, you know what, 693 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: you did cover a lot of ground with him last year, 694 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: you did cover a lot well this year at the 695 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: end of it. If he's healthy enough and you feel 696 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: like that he could be a difference maker, and he could. 697 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 1: You know, I really felt like that that the times 698 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: that t Y Hilton got to play, I thought he 699 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: was a difference maker. Could could Odell be even a 700 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: bigger one? Absolutely? So I would I would revisit that. 701 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: I would revisit only but once you find out what 702 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: that money is going to be, it might turn you 703 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: away from that. Yeah. So you know, I've already sad. 704 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: Like We've got the draft show kicking off tomorrow Wednesday, Thursday. 705 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: This week. There's a lot of really good wide receivers 706 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 1: you're picking down there with twenty six, twenty seven somewhere 707 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: right around there. You know, I think that thing could 708 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: stretch for you for some receivers. You know, it looks 709 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: pretty deep already. I know some people will probably disagree 710 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: with that. I think it looks like a pretty good group. 711 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: So I don't know. With Odell, I think the money's 712 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: probably gonna keep you from doing that. Yeah. For me, 713 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I've said this before. I believe 714 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: that you've got to steal some playmakers. You've got to 715 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: get some cheap playmakers, and I don't think that's one 716 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: of them. You're looking at your third receiver that's going 717 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: to cost a lot, probably like what a second receiver 718 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: would make. I don't. I don't think so. I don't. 719 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if if they're everyone in the building 720 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: over here believes that that, you know, he's going to 721 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: do everything he needs to do to be healthy and 722 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: rehab his knee and all that kind of stuff. So 723 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: I don't think so to me. Receiver or running back 724 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: in the first round, Cashi Spton real quick though. If 725 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: there is a new coordinator the first thing if I'm 726 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: Mike mccurthy or Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones or Will McClay 727 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: that I ask is, tell me how you're going to 728 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: get Michael Gallop going. I'm not worried so much about 729 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: ceedee lamb, tell me how you're going to get Michael 730 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: Gallop going. That would be one of the first questions 731 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: I would ask, Like, huge miss this year, I think, 732 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: and and he honestly he did better quote unquote coming 733 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: back from that injury, like to start off the year. 734 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: I didn't expect him to be ready that soon, even 735 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: though he wasn't an impactful player throughout the season. He's 736 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: like a moody player, not not not personality wise, but 737 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: like you don't know what you're getting with him. When 738 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: he has a big game, you're like, Okay, Gallop, he's back, 739 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: he's ready, and then he does nothing. And then when 740 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: you write him off, you're like, this guy's just running 741 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: around Tampa game. So he's hard to figure out. Maybe 742 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: with coming back from the injury, you know, and they 743 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: knew the first year would be tough, but but I 744 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: don't know you needed more from your number two guy. Yeah, 745 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean it is, And you know, I think early 746 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: on confidence was a factor there. I just think there's 747 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: also some things that it seemed like that every ball 748 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: that was thrown to him was probably one he was 749 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: making a contested catch or trying to get it. Just 750 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: never seemed like it was. The Tampa game was the 751 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: one game where it was kind of like, all right, 752 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: they got him going, here we go every other pass, 753 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: every I mean, and I saw a stat the other 754 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: day that he had more games with zero yards than 755 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: he had with fifty yards in a game, you know, 756 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: So that just that that just tells you right there 757 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: the struggles that you were kind of dealing with with him, 758 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: and hopefully you can get him going if there is 759 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: a new coordinator or they need to go back with 760 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: the current one and kind of figure those things out. 761 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: I would like to see a wide receiver added to 762 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: this team that could at least compete for a bench press, 763 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, competition, I mean, just a little bit more strength. 764 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: We got, we got some We got some guys that 765 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: are lean and and you know, quick and fast and 766 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: all that stuff. But I'm not saying you gotta go 767 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: get DK Metcalf or the aj Browns of the world. 768 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: They're nice though, but it'd be nice to have, you know, 769 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean that type of receiver. I think I wouldn't mind. 770 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind a guy like that. You know, last year, 771 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: like Treylan Burks was was was a player like that. 772 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: He's not you know, he's not like tough man competition, 773 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: but I mean he's a bigger, strong guy and very 774 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel h. Yeah, and that receiver will be there 775 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: later in the first round because he won't run a 776 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: four three, he'll just run a four to five. But 777 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: he bench twenty two times and he's a tough Yeah, 778 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: Adze type of guy, you know that, that type of guy. 779 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: You know, Amari was a little bulky. Yeah, I'm not 780 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: gonna get get into that again. But he didn't play, No, 781 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: not the same. He was a very good route runner, 782 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: but he didn't play. I was just talking physically, Yeah, 783 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of the type. Yeah, but okay, final 784 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: question before we end the show, running back question, running 785 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: back question. If the Cowboys don't trust Zeke to run 786 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: the ball in the second half of that game, does 787 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: that tell you anything about if he should be here 788 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: next year on the same contract. And this is something 789 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: that has to come up here in the past couple 790 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: of days, some reports coming out saying that he would 791 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: possibly be open to taking a pay cut to stay 792 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: here in Dallas, and he's mentioned it to the media 793 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: that he would like to say in Dallas. So if 794 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: that's the case, if he does accept and there is 795 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: a change in the contract, then a pay cut, would 796 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: you be willing to keep a guy like Zeke here 797 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: in Dallas. I don't think I'm moving on. I don't know. 798 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: I think I'm moving on. I mean, I think he 799 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: was very emotional about after the game because he kind 800 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: of knew what was happening. These players understand. I look 801 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 1: at the draft, I look at the possibilities. You're probably 802 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with Pollard, you know, we'll see 803 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: what happens with Zeke. But I think now it's just time. 804 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 1: It's that you need to roll it, you know. You mean, 805 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: if you're going to allocate money to Zeke, is that 806 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: dollars well spent, even reduced dollars. I mean that can 807 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: mean somebody else. Maybe it's two players, like they talk about, 808 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 1: you know, going and Jerry like to say, well get 809 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: rid of Randy Gregor, I get three guys. You know, 810 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: maybe you're now in that mode where you move on 811 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: from Zeke, you can get two more guys. And that's 812 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: I think that. I think that's the mindset you need 813 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: to have, right. I love the fact that he's willing 814 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: to do that, and and and he doesn't really want 815 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: to start over. You know, he's he's he's not for everybody. 816 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,959 Speaker 1: He's got a nice comfortable situation here. They know Zeke, 817 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: they know who he is. They you know, he doesn't 818 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: probably want to start over and do all that. But 819 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: but it's the role. I mean, think about even if 820 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: it's down to a five million dollars, well, think about 821 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: you gotta draft somebody and then you got you got Pollard. 822 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: You got to figure out how to do that. And 823 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: then word's his role. And none of them are going 824 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: to play special teams. So so what are we paying 825 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: for here if he's not going to be the one 826 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: or even the two? You know, I don't know. I 827 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: hate that his final play with the Cowboys could be 828 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: at center when he gets blown up from the ball, 829 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: you know, like that, But it also shows this guy, 830 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: this guy is one of the best teammates will Cowboys 831 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: gonna have? And and I have a I do have 832 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for for Zeke and when you 833 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: look at how the career started on and off the field, 834 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: and it's it's changed. He's changed more when you think 835 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: about what he's a declining player, of course most running 836 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: backs are. But the difference between him running the football 837 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: his first year and running the football this year is 838 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: not as much of a change as him off the 839 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: field and now and him growing as he is matured 840 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: way more than he's decreased as a player. That's true. 841 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 1: H Well, that is all the time we have for today. 842 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 1: We do have the Draft Show starting tomorrow. Yes we do. 843 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: What time? Eleven am? Eleven am. That's gonna be happening 844 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: twice a week, right the crew, Yeah, we got yeah 845 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: this week We're doing it Wednesday Thursday and then check 846 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 1: to listen. You follow the Draft Show on Twitter. We'll 847 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: always put that stuff out for you too. I'll tweet 848 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: it out things like that. But we appreciate everybody. We'll 849 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: start the journey tomorrow. So I think I think our 850 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: show and us is another Derek's not here, but this 851 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: is the last show. So this is the last show 852 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: this week. Next week we go into a one it's 853 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: a week type of season. We'll be here on Wednesday 854 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: at ten am. I believe that's our schedule for the 855 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: Break and then you guys can check out the rest 856 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: of the schedule for all the other podcast on Dallas 857 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com. We is that time? Is that time 858 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: of the year. We gotta start all over again. I'll 859 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: be an auctioner before you know it. Oh my god. 860 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: All right, thank you so much for Nikkiman. Brian brought us. 861 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: I remember Garcia. This has been the Break on Dallas 862 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com Radio. This has been a production of 863 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.