1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from seven 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: pm to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Couple at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: The Blue Jays just finished the biggest choke job in 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: the history of Major League Baseball. And you know, normally 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: I would sing my old Canada. I was all prepared 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: for them to win or whatever. So I do have 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: a new song that I'm gonna debut right now. 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: Let me hear this, what Bladdy about to hear? No canad. 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: Your home man, native land, true patriot choke job all. 15 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 4: Over the Major League Baseball land. With closing hearts, we 16 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: see the rise of the Dodgers championship flag from far 17 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 4: and wide. No Canada, you lead down the entire country. 18 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 3: God keep our. 19 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: Baseball glorius and free. 20 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: No Canada, you. 21 00:01:54,360 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 4: Choke it down royally. No Canada, you made me throw 22 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: up in my mouth. 23 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: With maple syrup on Saturday night. 24 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 3: This is fun. First of all no, Canada. 25 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 5: First of all, you ain't got a bottle of metal 26 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 5: of maple syrupce save your life. Let's start there. Are 27 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 5: you done with your your your The calling is a 28 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 5: choke job. 29 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: It was a choke job. All right, let's just we'll 30 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: talk about it. Uh. 31 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying it was the greatest choke in the history 32 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: of the World Series. When you give up a home 33 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: run to a ninth place hitter who's had one hit 34 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: in the in the previous month, you pitch from behind, 35 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: you throw the ball over the plate right and it 36 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: hits it out to tie the game with Otani on deck, 37 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: like you couldn't asked for a more nightmarriage ending to 38 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: not winning a World Series. When you have to get 39 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: him out, you attack him. You throw fastballs they threw 40 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: like a slider or whatever, and you lose on that pitch. 41 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: You don't lose on your second best pitch. 42 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: And then the. 43 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: Blue Jays we were here, we talked seventh, eighth. They 44 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: had runners on second when nobody out couldn't bring him in, 45 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: and finally in the ninth inning, a man on third 46 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: with one out couldn't bring him in. And then they 47 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: end the game on a double play to lose the world. 48 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean they left sixty six men on base in 49 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: Game seven, they left fourteen on base, eight in scoring position. 50 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: It was a choke job. 51 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 5: No, it wasn't stopping. You don't even believe it. You 52 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 5: didn't even say with conviction. That wasn't even Ron Parker. 53 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 5: Who was that? That wasn't Ron Parker. You don't believe that. 54 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 5: Let me tell you so many ways as wasn't a 55 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 5: choke job. Number one, In fact, the Dodgers had to 56 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 5: go out there and win every single one of the 57 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 5: games they won, including the two games they won in 58 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 5: Game three, which was a three yad two gamer doubleheader. 59 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 5: They had to go out there and make the places. 60 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 5: Freddy Freeman had to hit a clutch home run and 61 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 5: win that. Somebody had to do it. The Glue Jays 62 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 5: had several opportunities to do it after Dodger players had opportunity. 63 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: To do it too. 64 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 5: You have Freddy Freeman do it, then, you know who 65 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 5: I want to give some credit to give me your 66 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 5: cookie back. I'm giving it to Dave Roberts. Because Dave 67 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 5: Roberts has been maligned, much maligned, is taking so much 68 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 5: criticism and every single thing he did the last couple 69 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 5: games work? We set up here on that Friday, they 70 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,799 Speaker 5: moved Mookie down. Who gets a couple of RBIs Mookie? 71 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 5: You start talking about move Andy Piaz. We talked about 72 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 5: it again on Friday. Been struggling. What are you gonna do? 73 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 5: You move him out? Miggy comes in, He hits the 74 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 5: home run. Andy Piaz comes back in the game defensively, 75 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 5: makes one of the greatest clutch catches you've ever seen. 76 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: He was so great about What was so great about 77 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: it because if that leave his feet or died for 78 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: the ball, all he did was out. 79 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: In front of the one of the pressure moment man, 80 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: and he hadn't been playing it. Did they crash into 81 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: each other? Ducked? 82 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: It wasn't because of the situation it was. It wasn't 83 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: a catch. He didn't jump over the fence right, exactly, 84 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: a pressure rized game. If you dropped that, man, it's 85 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: a rap, it's a game. Hits the home run. 86 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 5: Then he makes the play to get to will Smith, 87 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 5: who by the way, is quietly just hever forgetting about him. 88 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 5: He has his foot on base, gets him out. Then 89 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: he hits the game winning home run. That nobody even 90 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 5: talking about because of Rojas game tying one well. 91 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: Because nobody can believe that you could allow a ninth 92 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: place hitter with one out in the night, when you're 93 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: two out from winning the World Series, for a guy 94 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: who had one hit in a previous month, you could 95 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: get a hit. 96 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: You can't give up a home run in that spot. 97 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: And why is that? 98 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: Why? 99 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 5: Why is that on the pitching, not on ros for 100 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 5: making a great play. 101 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: No, and that's what the Dodgers did though a whole 102 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: in time. No, he worst of the problem. 103 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: The last two games in Toronto both ended on double 104 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: plays where a ball goes to left field, the guy 105 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: on second base runs off the base and gets doubled 106 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: up on the ball that wasn't gonna drop. 107 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: That was what happened. 108 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 5: That was a mistakee happens when teams played the Chiefs 109 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 5: in the postseason, when they played the patchas when they 110 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 5: played the Warriors, when you play champions, they seen when 111 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 5: you played the Spurs all those years. To find a 112 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 5: way to panic, to not be themselves, to freak out 113 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 5: what they're doing all the time. 114 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: The Dodgers beat in this world, Okay, left fifty five 115 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: guys on base, even show hey, as much as people 116 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: wanted to crown. 117 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: Him, what did he do? 118 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: He gave up seven earned runs in his two starts 119 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: in the World Series. Seven earned runs and twelve innings. 120 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: Not stellar. Four point four to three e R which 121 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: isn't great. I'm just saying, none of your guys, Mookie 122 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: had three hits. 123 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: Or we hits in the World Series. And what do 124 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: I keep telling you? What Freddy no one home run? 125 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: All I'm saying to you is it was lucky that 126 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: there was nothing luck about that that parade. 127 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: You can't beat the lucky team who dominates who you can. 128 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 5: You can't be the lucky team that sweeps the best 129 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 5: team in baseball, the Milwaukee Brewers, who beats the Phillies 130 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 5: show the Phillies were the odds on to win the 131 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 5: World Series when we came into the Steague. 132 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: And so you beats them, you sweep the. 133 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: Mist of your baseball and then you go up against 134 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: a great team in the Blue Jays, and it takes 135 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: you to an amazing, great sect. 136 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 5: And why can't it just be that it was a 137 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 5: great World Series period? Why it all gotta be that 138 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 5: they choked it away? 139 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: All women, you say to you, is today's parade should 140 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: have been in at the North Pole because that was 141 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: a Christmas gift from the Blue Jays man. 142 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 5: They went out there and stole that thing. That was 143 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 5: time and time again. The Blue Jays could have won 144 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 5: Game three, give us the longest game ever? 145 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: Did they know? Show? 146 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 5: And they win a couple the Didgers going to their house, 147 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 5: gonna win and win you. 148 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: In their house. Two and they take it. 149 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 5: And Dave Roberts made the right move after the right 150 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 5: Will Kine you ain't seeing before, You might not ever 151 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 5: see Will Klein again. Will Klein came in and gave 152 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: you four innings, seventy two pitches and the most he 153 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 5: had ever done was thirty six. But Dave Roberts stuck 154 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 5: with him. Dave Roberts Willion Kurshaw in for the one out. 155 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 5: Everything he did, and you gotta give him credit because 156 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 5: I everybody's been credited. 157 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: Everything he did, he put. 158 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: He let the Otawani start and was three nothing if 159 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: they lose that game. 160 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: That was the right guy. That was the right move. 161 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: You go down with your guys. Otani had earned that. 162 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: You go down with Buddy had just pitched. 163 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 5: Was three days rest and you are Moto did in 164 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 5: three days rest Yamamoto was my gosh, he ready to 165 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 5: pitch on them right now? 166 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: Give some credit? Where is dude? 167 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 5: Rob? 168 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. 169 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm not an American Express, American Easy, but I'm not 170 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: giving a card. I'm not doing that. Charlie Hayes, give 171 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: some credit. You ain't getting a cookie. 172 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: Give me a back. 173 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: No, it's too late, all right. 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We all kind of discussed. You 197 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 5: had the Bills Chiefs being one of Another one that 198 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 5: we kind of kept an eye on was the Colts 199 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 5: at Pittsburgh, which was the Colts coming in at the 200 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 5: time seven and one, obviously a lot of people high 201 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 5: on them, and then the Pittsburgh steel Is coming in. 202 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, the quarterback as an MVP, he was MVP. Kennedy 203 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is gonna probably win. Is he still he's 204 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: MVP after this week two? Yeah, he still got like 205 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: what eight weeks or something like that. No, I'm talking 206 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: about after this. 207 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 5: They ain't gonna give it to Jonathan Taylor, So it 208 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 5: got to be a quarterback. But going into this game, 209 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 5: we had a couple of guests on throughout last week 210 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 5: and I was wondering, what, you know, what would this be. 211 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 5: This is a great game for both teams to kind 212 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 5: of put their mark on where they are through it 213 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 5: a halfway part of the season and what this team has, 214 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 5: what the teams really are heading towards the second half. 215 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 5: And I went into it. The Colts looked awful, They 216 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 5: looked horrible. Daniel Jones we talked about, ended up having 217 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 5: three hundred and forty two yng touchdown, three interceptions. But 218 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor the key part to me, only forty five yards. 219 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 5: And if you're gonna hold Jonathan Taylor to only forty 220 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 5: five yards, he's an engine that that then that's gonna 221 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 5: be a recipe for disaster. Because Daniel Jones, while he 222 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 5: has had a great resurgence, Daniel Jones, I can't rely 223 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 5: simply on Daniel Jones, so that can't be the case. 224 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: Credit the one big stat though, but he also had 225 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: three fumbles. He had to get three interceptions and three fumbles. 226 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 5: I just want you to and he he was singularly 227 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 5: the reason they lost. And again the defense to the 228 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 5: Steelers obviously caused those interceptions, caused those fumbles. But I 229 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 5: walked away from again, rob underwhelmed by the Steelers because 230 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 5: when I look and I tell you in two games 231 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 5: that they had eleven turnovers against the Colts, they had 232 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 5: six against the Patriots. Handful weeks back, they had five 233 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 5: and each game you escape by a touchdown. I walk 234 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 5: away from this still not knowing what the Pittsburgh Steelers 235 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 5: are other than what I think they are, which. 236 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: Is nine and eight, ten and seven. No, No, you 237 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: have them ten wins. Don't even do that. I've been saying, No, No, 238 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: nine and eight. 239 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: You know you did not. We have a bet on 240 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: any and what I say, we have a bet on 241 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: ten wins. 242 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: So it can't be that you think they're gonna get 243 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: ten because we have a bet on ten wins. They're 244 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: absolutely just no, we have a bet on ten. And 245 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna stop you, and I'm gonna 246 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: stop you. 247 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: Hold on, let me get my last point. 248 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: Get your lad if I told you to f you on, 249 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: If I go ahead, I give you eleven turnover, it's ridiculous. 250 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 5: You're supposed to dominate. If I give you six turnovers, 251 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 5: you're supposed to win handily. If I give you five 252 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 5: against the Patriots, you're supposed to win handily. And I'm 253 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 5: not saying every game you gotta win by twenty five 254 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 5: points or something at all. But they have not been 255 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 5: a team that's flump jumped to finish dominated somebody. They've 256 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 5: not have been a team that is just bludging somebody. 257 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 5: And again, you have all the these opportunities to do so. 258 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 5: And I walk away with the Steelers going eh, and 259 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 5: I just walk away saying they are middle of the pack, 260 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 5: middle of the road, and within their own division. I 261 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 5: still question if they're gonna be able to come out 262 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: of this. Obviously, the Ravens feel comfortable and confident in 263 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 5: what they'll be able to do, and if the Bengals 264 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 5: could ever close the game, the Bengals could be. 265 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: The good luck with that, hang on that Bengals. No 266 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Joe Burrows talking about the damn Bengals. Let 267 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: me get That's my point? Is my issue I have 268 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: with you, Kelvin? 269 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: What's that? Here's my issue? What's that? It's about winning 270 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: and losing. 271 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: This whole notion about having to win the way you 272 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: want them to win. 273 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: That makes no sense because guess what. Last year the 274 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: Chiefs won. 275 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: Eleven one score games, which is exactly what the Steelers 276 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: are doing. 277 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: So it's okay when the Chiefs and. 278 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes wins by the skin of their teeth. 279 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: Oh it do man it's fifteen and two. They won 280 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: in the game. Man, I don't care how they won. 281 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 5: They won. 282 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: And you're sitting here talking about coming into that game. 283 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: If you watched any pre pre pregame football show, the 284 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: Coats will annihilate the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's all everybody said. 285 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: They're going to annihilate this Dealers. They've lost the last 286 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: two games. There's no way. 287 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: This is the. 288 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: Number one offense against one of the worst defenses. 289 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: They will be annihilated in a. 290 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: Must win game for the Steelers against a really good 291 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: team record wise, and guess what they did. They did 292 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: what they had to do, which was win the game 293 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: and the last touchdown. 294 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: If you want to say, oh, it's so close, you 295 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: give it to them. 296 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: Don't let them score too early, make them eat up 297 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: some clock. 298 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: I get all that. Take your foot off the gas. 299 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: You don't have to press because that's what the Bears 300 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: wind up doing giving up two touchdowns to the Bengals. 301 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: You don't want that to happen. 302 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: And the bottom line is that was a must win 303 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: for the Steelers and they got it done against the 304 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: team everybody and their uncle were picking the Colts in 305 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: that game because of what they had done and the 306 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: way that the Steelers defense they came up with turnovers. 307 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: So which one is it? No, I'll graduate now the 308 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: chief one is it? 309 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: I let you go. Now the Chiefs. The reason why 310 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: the completely different. 311 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 5: And you know, for the entire season I said right 312 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 5: here and told you what did I tell you? 313 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes? Don't look right? 314 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 5: What did I tell you? Patrick Mahomes is? Now he's 315 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 5: forcing it, Patrick Mahomes. It makes it easy throws. He's 316 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 5: forcing because he's missing guys. And that's the other thing. 317 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 5: The Chiefs never had their guys. They were never a 318 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 5: complete team. So for them to. 319 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: Oh, they gotta be done. 320 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 5: I'm not arguing that that was the issue last year, 321 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 5: is that Patrick Mahomes and that team were finding ways 322 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 5: to win as they kept losing, guys, kept dropping guys. 323 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 5: This guy come back, this guy's out and that's what 324 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 5: made it remarkable. And also they are a championship team, 325 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 5: so you must respect that. 326 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: That is not what the Steelers are. 327 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 5: The Steelers ain't even want to post get a playoff 328 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 5: game is so long, and they have their full compliment 329 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 5: of who they're supposed to be. 330 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: This is why I thought in the. 331 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: Terrible defense and get there five point at the halfway points, 332 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: and that's still five games. That's why I still walk 333 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: away make any sense, That's why I walk away from 334 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: them still saying they don't. 335 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: If I'm another team and you're talking about postseason. 336 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: To me, they number one offensive mask because they got 337 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: all of it. 338 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: They turned the ball over. 339 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: Six and they turn it over to the game. I'm 340 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: just trying to still walk away from not knowing what 341 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: the Stellers games in the NFL. I'll give you a 342 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: history lesson. I decided by six points a lot. Nobody's 343 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: questioning I go. Most of the NFL doesn't mess with it. 344 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: And if six turnovers, I guarantee you don't win by three. 345 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: You don't have to nominate. If five interceptions and they 346 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: lost to the Lions, it ain't it's not automatic. Calm 347 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: from when I watched this, they dominate six, Did they 348 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: win the game? Did they win? They won the game? 349 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: And they don't and they don't. 350 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 5: Come on, man, they don't look great at these wins, 351 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 5: all these crazy and. 352 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: Don't do that. 353 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: Don't look good and don't do. 354 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 5: That when I just spent a whole hour telling you 355 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 5: that the Dodgers won. 356 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 3: Don't do that. No, you clearly get the difference. No, 357 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: you clearly gets a big difference. Clearly get given it 358 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: for night then and home run today. 359 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 5: And I gave you six to six interceptions and the 360 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 5: best you do is barely beat me twice. Five and 361 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 5: the five turnovers games and most NFL games are deciding 362 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 5: mostoints turnovers. Last year, you know, know the difference between 363 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 5: the Chiefs this year and last year was that last. 364 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: Year they were eleven and oh in one score game. 365 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: Guess what they are this year and four four. That's 366 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: why they have That's why they they're five and four 367 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: this season because they have won those absolutely and swinging 368 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: close games, those of the games. 369 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: You want to win. 370 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 5: My boy was Steelers getting eleven turnovers between two games. 371 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 5: Nobody cares they won. And I walk away still feeling 372 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 5: the same way. Man, No, you're just trying to man. 373 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 5: You just you're pointing it, okay that I feel. Man, 374 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 5: I can't even be wrong. You can't walk away from 375 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 5: the steelersuse you were wrong. 376 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: About justin field. You were wrong about a lot of stuff. 377 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: And this is my thing. You just have this thing. 378 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: I understand. You don't want to be wrong on this 379 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: Steelers thing, and they. 380 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 5: Hey, look you don't like I feel. No, man, you said, no, 381 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 5: that's exactly what I said. You have a shot, Russell Wilson, 382 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 5: have a shot the winner division. And what I said, 383 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 5: Russell Wills. 384 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: Not lose five games down the stretch. 385 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 5: They look exactly like they did with Russe Russell Wilson. 386 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 5: That's what I said. The season you did, you said 387 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 5: eight or nine will looks just like they did. 388 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: We five and six. We have a bet on ten. 389 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: All I know is halfway through they got five wins 390 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: and all they got to do is win another five 391 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: in the In the last nine games, I feel. 392 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 5: Pretty exactly like I said they were Russell Will. They 393 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 5: won five or six win, then they lost five. Look 394 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 5: this whole team, and that's it's exact same. That's my 395 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 5: point is I expecting, if you get a good game 396 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 5: from your defense, dominate something. 397 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 3: You don't need a team. 398 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: The Lords, the Bons dominated all those bad teams, and 399 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: guess what it got them when it came down to 400 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: being fifteen. Playoff No, they lost when playoff win they 401 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: lost they last year the playoffs. 402 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: No, they did not. 403 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: They lost their first playoff game last year, and they 404 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: dominated everybody. What do you what, they had a buy. 405 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: They had a buy and then they played Washington. They 406 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: the Lions. 407 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 5: The difference between the Lions, the difference between the. 408 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: Difference between the two games. The difference between the Lions 409 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 3: is the Lions had a chance to go to the 410 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: super Bowl the year. 411 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 5: Before, exactly what they Sason. 412 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: And I don't know how they dominated everybody last year? 413 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: What did they get them? And all of didn't get 414 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 3: them anything. 415 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 5: They lost to Washington and Hollers are doing all of 416 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 5: this and they looked the same as they did last year. 417 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying, Rob, is that the Steelers looked 418 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 5: exact same as they did with Russell Wilson, which is 419 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 5: what I thought would happen. It's all I'm saying. Aaron 420 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 5: Rodgers has been and that's perfectly fine. But to me, 421 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 5: they're gonna be, like I told you, find themselves in 422 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 5: the same predicament. And I watched the game where I 423 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 5: was all right, they about to really show us something 424 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 5: and they didn't. I don't even know what that means. 425 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: And they did. I don't even know what that means. 426 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: I don't understand. You don't know what that means. 427 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: Twenty seven to thirteen. They give up a late touchdown 428 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: to make the game. You think it's close, that Lions 429 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: game was twenty seven to twenty four. Because I want 430 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: you to know stand no, no, I want you to know, 431 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: if you watch the game at all, that game it 432 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: wasn't close. It wasn't because close as the score would indicate. 433 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't closed. The Lions were five or for seventeen 434 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: on third down, they couldn't convert. What are you talking 435 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: about the game? I'm talking about the actual game, not 436 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: the score, not the lasting score. The actual game wasn't 437 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: as close as the score indicated. 438 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying to you. And don't let us score. 439 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: You don't let us watch. 440 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 5: You know, I'm saying, don't let us twice now that 441 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 5: I've watched them get a total of eleven turnovers of 442 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 5: the game, did they win a game? 443 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm not arguing that. Okay, they won the game. Why 444 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: we wasting air on this same reason? Why we just 445 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: ignored the Dodgers within it? The game a whole series, 446 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: I should say, not a game show. Well then well 447 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: then the coach Show. If you're gonna do it like that, 448 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: then the Lions showed the Coach Show. Anybody who loses 449 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: chokes right, No, every it's not everybody who loses. No, 450 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: if they are a team, you get beat sometimes and 451 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: and then there's times you don't know when it is yes, 452 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: you you lose. 453 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: Sometimes the other team is just better than you. I 454 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: just did I want you to say that sometimes. 455 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 456 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 457 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search fs R 458 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: to listen. 459 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: Live a little more baseball. You know, the World Seris 460 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: is over Saturday night. Incredible night for people watching and 461 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: just the whole thing. And the Dodgers had their parade today. 462 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: But you know already, you know people are trying to 463 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: call the Dodgers a dynasty. Key K said that, and 464 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to pump the brakes because they are not 465 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: rob gnot a dynasty. Yes, they won in two thousand, 466 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: but then they went twenty twenty, but then of course 467 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: they went they didn't want to get until twenty twenty four, 468 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: so there was three years that went by, Okay, so 469 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: that kind of took that championships out of the dynasty 470 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: tag to me, you need to win three in a 471 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: row or three out of four like to be a dynasty. 472 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: That's the way I look at it. And yes, they're 473 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: the first team to win back to back since the 474 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: Yankees who won a ninety eight, ninety nine, and two thousand, 475 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: and the first National League team to win since the 476 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds when they won back to back in nineteen 477 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: seventy five seventy six. And I know a lot of 478 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: people nowadays they think everything's a dynasty. The San Francisco 479 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: Giants won three championships in what five years or whatever 480 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: it was. 481 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 3: I never won back to back. They're not a dynasty 482 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: to me. Did they have an. 483 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: Unbelievable run apps, But but they didn't even win back 484 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: to back and they went won a championship, didn't make 485 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs, won a championship, didn't make the playoffs, won 486 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: a championship and didn't make the playoffs. 487 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: Come on, that's not a dynasty. 488 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 5: Well, they're like you a braand muffet. At least they're consistent, 489 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 5: are consistent. Win, don't get in, win, don't get in 490 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 5: when you get my point point and the same thing 491 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 5: people try to say the Spurs and they're no, they 492 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 5: just had a. 493 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: Winning culture there. But they won five and twenty years. 494 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: Not a dynasty. When the Yankees won, they won in 495 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: ninety six, they did not win in ninety seven. Then 496 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: they won ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand. So they 497 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: won three in a row and four out of five. 498 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: That's a dynasty. They were, for sure, am I right? 499 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: That's not in question. And when I look at this 500 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: Dodger team, and of course the way that they won 501 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: this one left a lot to be desired, I don't 502 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: look at them in the same light that I look 503 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: at that Yankee team in two thousand, or the Cincinnati 504 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: Reds now the Red Zone weren't a dynasty. They won 505 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: the back to back, but they had the Big Red Machine. 506 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: That was an incredible team with so many great players 507 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: and all that. This Dodger team, now, if they win 508 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: another one, obviously they have to win another one. 509 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 3: If they win three in a row, then I'm gonna say. 510 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: That they're a dynasty. But right now, from twenty twenty 511 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty five with the three champions, they're not 512 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: a dynasty. They're a very good team that's won back 513 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: to back championships. 514 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: You tip your cap even if it's somewhat fraudulent. You 515 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 3: tip your cap because. 516 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 5: You can't help yourself. Boy, you're gonna let it slide 517 00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 5: in there. 518 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: Because they did win. Give cookies back. I'm not knowing. 519 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 5: Going home. 520 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 3: Give me a twenty five of the cookies. No, I 521 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 3: mean you know what's share them with everybody. I had 522 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: the box in my bag, got to take it out. 523 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 5: The look you gave me when I said no, that 524 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 5: was for everybody gave me to look like, who was everybody? 525 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 3: Look? I get your sentiment of the winning three in 526 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: a row. 527 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 5: The only difference, the reason why I'll disagree with you 528 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 5: is because specifically baseball is much harder to win than 529 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 5: in NBA. Right, if you got Shaq and Kobe, you 530 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 5: can run off you got Michael Jordan, Pippen and Phil 531 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 5: Jackson and this Robbert, you can run off three. You 532 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 5: can do that in basketball. You know the heat heatles 533 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 5: go to four in a row. They only went to 534 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 5: but you know it's questionable if that. You know you 535 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 5: can do that in basketball football, if you got a 536 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 5: team the Cowboys as they play Monday night, the Old Cowboys, 537 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 5: it's so hard to win in baseball. This is why 538 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 5: every Series is celibate, celebrated world The wild carn't remember. 539 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 3: No, I'm not mad at it. 540 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 5: The Wild Card looks the same as the World Series 541 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 5: until Parade and all that, because it's so hard to win. 542 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 3: It's one hundred and sixty two games. It is a marathon. 543 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 5: You got guys out, guys if you can bring it up, 544 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 5: young guys from Triple Guys are going down and there 545 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 5: coming back. That was just yeah, and it's so difficult 546 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 5: to win. Turnover there for cowboys as they were marching 547 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 5: down the it's gonna be a bad night at the office. 548 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 5: It looks like, yeah, one of those looks like one 549 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 5: of those for them. But this is why to me, 550 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: I say that I understand why people are considered the 551 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 5: dynasty for them because here's the other thing. They have 552 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 5: five pinnant titles since twenty seventeen. 553 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 3: That hold, I'm just saying. 554 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 5: They went to the World Series in twenty seventeen, lost 555 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 5: to the Astros. We all know what happened there, the 556 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 5: trash Tros, a lot of cheating going on, So I 557 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 5: think that benefit of them, people feel like they got 558 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 5: cheated in that one. They go the very next year 559 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 5: they lose to Mookie Bets and the Red Sox. They 560 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 5: would get Mookie two years later, but that to me, 561 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 5: going to the World Series five times since twenty seventeen 562 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 5: and winning three, that's why you get the dynasty. Because 563 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 5: they've won three and I've gone to five, rob that 564 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 5: is insane and that's why you lost too. Yes, they 565 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 5: lost too and one was controversial with a cheating, but 566 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 5: they lost two. It did, but they going to a 567 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 5: dynasty and they've lost to two, three, three and five 568 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 5: years are three and five appearances in twenty seventeen is 569 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 5: to me? And the expectations I don't know. I didn't 570 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 5: look it out, and Martin Martin might know. I would 571 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 5: imagine that the odds on favorite right now, Robi thumbs 572 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 5: up and not even looking out. 573 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: Here, I know what I'm saying. 574 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 5: Every team that the expectation is for them to win again, 575 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 5: which would that's that's board if you believe. 576 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 3: You also mentioned look how hard it is back to back? 577 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 5: No, but that right now? 578 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: Oh no, But that's what makes you a dynasty. And 579 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: here's the thing. 580 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: You my point about the San Francisco Giants who couldn't 581 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: even make the playoffs after they won a Championship. So 582 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: under your standards, they would be a dynasty, right, No, 583 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: because they didn't make the post season. They made they 584 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: won three can not make the postseason. The Dodgers have 585 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: made the postseason thirteen fourteen years in a row, but 586 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: they want more than the Dodgers doing the same stretch 587 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about. No, they both got three, right, Yeah, 588 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: but the difference is the Dodgers. 589 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: The Dodgers are Dodgers one. 590 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: And twenty twenty. Then they they did twenty one, twenty two, 591 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: twenty three. That's three years, right, and now twenty four 592 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: to twenty five. 593 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 3: Okay. 594 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 5: What I'm saying is every single one of those years 595 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 5: the Dodgers were in the postseason and they went to 596 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 5: the World Series twice. 597 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: But you gotta say the Dodgers is six seasons. It's 598 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: not five years. It's six seasons, right, Okay, so three 599 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: and six seasons and it's still. 600 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 5: Not and don't forget the other two World Series appearances. 601 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 5: That is dynastic. 602 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 3: And I can agree with that. And I'm saying, especially in. 603 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 5: Baseball, and the key part is something you mentioned back 604 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 5: to back is basically an impossibility in MLB. It hadn't 605 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 5: happened in the NL in fifty years, So to me, 606 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 5: for them to then turn around and do that is huge. 607 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 5: They actually did what hasn't happened in almost fifty years. 608 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 5: It hasn't happened in twenty five in MLB, but fifty 609 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 5: almost in the NL. So to me, to win three 610 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 5: in six seasons, go to five and what eight nine seasons, 611 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 5: that is impressive. 612 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: It's not. 613 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: It's not a dynasty. As impressive as it is. It's 614 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: the same thing I talk about the Spurs. The Spurs 615 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: never won back to back, but the Domos now as 616 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: good as they are, No, they were on their they 617 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: need one more, not triple. 618 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 5: I'm saying they went back to back. Now I'm talking 619 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 5: about winning. The Spurs never won back to back. They 620 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 5: just like odd years, oh three oh five, oh season 621 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 5: like that. 622 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying they were. They were doing a giants. 623 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, a dynasty, a true dynasty. When 624 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys won their three Super Bowl it was three 625 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: out of four years. That's they won two and they 626 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: won three out of four. That to me is when 627 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: you are a dynasty. When you are when they when 628 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: the Lakers won the three straight with Kobe and Shack. 629 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: That's a dynasty. 630 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: Three straight. 631 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: When Michael Jordan and then won three straight twice, that's 632 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: a dynasty. Nobody else can can, can, can breathe, can win. 633 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 3: Can get a taste of it. 634 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: And the Yankees won three in a row and four 635 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: out of five, and that nineteen ninety seven they probably 636 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: could have won that. They win again in two thousand 637 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: and one, lost that World Series, were up. In two 638 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: thousand and three, the Red Sox three nothing to go 639 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: to another World Series. They didn't win that. You know, 640 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: they got knocked out there. I mean, they had a run. 641 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: But the only ones that matter are those four out 642 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: of five that they won. To me and the only 643 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you if this were other sports. 644 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: The difference I have in baseball is how hard it 645 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: is to just win in general. If you felt for Mars, 646 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: you would have thought the Chicago Cubs were one of 647 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: the best teams in baseball, and one at a time 648 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: in the Red Sox, you didn't realize winning. I mean, 649 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: they sell out, they're huge, they're the always game of 650 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: the week, they're the big thing. The Cubs ain't winning 651 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: a hundred years. 652 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 5: If all of a sudden the NBA team or NFL team, 653 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 5: if it didn't win in a hundred years, that would 654 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 5: be like ridiculous. 655 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: Nope, like the biggest thing. It would be like the 656 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: Lions not winning the super Bowl and. 657 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 5: Won the super Bowl. They did win a championship, but 658 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 5: not a super Bowl. Don't dispect them super Bowl. 659 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: I know you're right. 660 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 5: I'm just make sure you put some respect on that 661 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 5: nineteen fifty whatever championship, nineteen fifty fifty seven. So that's 662 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 5: my that's my thing is that in baseball, this is 663 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 5: about as dynastic as you're gonna get. 664 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: The Yankees they really were the second go the standard. 665 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: They were the anomaly. No, that's the standard. Is what 666 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 3: you want? No, the anomaly. This doesn't happen. What don't 667 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: you want? What happened? 668 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: But you gotta win at least three to be a dynasty, 669 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: even two us as great as time giving you the 670 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: the Dodgers have won three in six seasons. No, that 671 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: ain't baseball. That is enough baseball. That's a whole lot. 672 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: Three and six and you went to two other ones. 673 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: And if you didn't get cheated, you might have had 674 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: four and seven years. If you didn't get cheated, by 675 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: the trash Ros Jose two. They still ain't took his 676 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: shirt off, going swimming with his shirt on Are eight 677 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: seven seven ninety nine on Foxes off telephone number eight 678 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Are 679 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: the Dodgers are dynasty? Kelvin says, yes, they are already. 680 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: The two in a row and three in six seasons 681 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: is a dynasty. I say, no way, no, how is 682 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: that the case three in a row or four out 683 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: of five or three and four years like the Cowboys 684 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: when they were a true dynasty. That to me when 685 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: you're winning at that clip, not getting to the finals, 686 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: but actually the championship. But actually it's the winning for me, right, 687 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: It's about winning the championship, not winning, not going to 688 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: the championship or whatever. 689 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: It's about winning. 690 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: Where are you eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox 691 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: the Dodgers, Kelvin said, they've punched their ticket. 692 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: They were dynasty. They are a dynasty. I'm saying, no way. 693 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 5: No how. 694 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 3: We're gonna be right here next year. You know that, right,