1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the backfield. 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: They's flooding down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: presented by wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now 5 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. 6 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: We are back. That's right, hanging with the boys. We 7 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: are back. After draft is a live look right there 8 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: at the Ford Center Tostito's Championship Plaza. What's the weather today. 9 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: It's it's overcast. We've had some good days, you know, 10 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: overscast seventy nine degrees feels like seventy nine degrees a 11 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: little bit gloom and doom. But you know, us old folks, 12 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: we always say we need the rain. You know, we 13 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: need we need the rain. Good for the grass. You 14 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: young people don't understand that just yet. But when old 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: people say we need the rain, is good for the grass. 16 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: Cut the sprinklers off, you know, you might have pulled 17 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: at fertilizes of that, might have laid some seeds down. 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: This is the grass growing part of the year. So 19 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: we need a good rain every now and again. But 20 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: we also needed a good draft every now and again. 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: The draft just concluded last week, Cowboys having one, two, three, four, 22 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: or five, six, seven, eight nine picks u in the 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: three day draft period in Las Vegas. And we're gonna 24 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: dive into what the Cowboys did. One of us in 25 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: here came in here just beaming and gleaming. Yeah, he 26 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: called me twice this weekend. I had had a chance 27 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: to call him back. Yeah, always telling if I don't 28 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: have time, if I don't have twenty five minutes plus, 29 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: I can't answer the phone, and like this couldn't quite 30 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: get that just just yet. But before we dive into 31 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: the draft, let's just do a little little wellness check, Kurt, 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: how are you, brother? Good? Good and a good weekend. 33 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: It's a nice little storm rolled through last night. Like 34 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: you said, I got some rain. But yeah, feeling feeling 35 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: pretty good. Glad to be here with you guys today. Nathaniel, 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: you're exactly you know what you said something about the rain, 37 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: and I want to just add a little something to that. 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: Unless you play football and over fifty because your bones, 39 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: that is actually true. My deed is bothering me when 40 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: the rain color. But uh, you know, I'm excited. Let's 41 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: go jazz this. There's this thing that we all fall 42 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: victim to it at some point in times in our lives. 43 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: More often than not, we joke about it. And I 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: was talking about being left on the porch, right. There 45 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: was a level of hope that was in me this time, 46 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: this time when my dad said he was coming to 47 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: pick me up at No. Wait, I'm going somewhere. I'm 48 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm going somewhere. I'm going somewhere. I'm going somewhere and 49 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: ride with me. Now you like to ride, ride with me? 50 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: Come on, come on, let's ride the baseline out. And 51 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: there were times what I would always say, like, this 52 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: is gonna be the time. No, he's no, don't know, 53 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: I said, Grandma, No, he said at this time, Like 54 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: this time he's gonna come. All right, baby, she said, okay, baby, 55 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: all right, all right, And I'll sit in that porch 56 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: and cars go up and down that street, up and 57 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: down that street. For months, for weeks, for sometimes even years. 58 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: I was like, this is the time, though, And so 59 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: there was this level of hope that he was going 60 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: to come. And for a little period of time he 61 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: never showed up at all. Yeah, and I feel like 62 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: especially when I when and I know why Nate's calling. 63 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: I know why Nate's when I walked in here, he's 64 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: chitting and grinning in the ear. It's this level of 65 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: hope that the draft brings, and it puts us on 66 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: the porch and it says every single year, yes, yes, 67 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: we are going to go and get the pieces and 68 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: that that this is going to be the year. This 69 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: is going to be the year, Kurt, Yeah, you know 70 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: it that that the Cowboys do what they're supposed to 71 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: do in the offseason, do what they're supposed to do 72 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: in the draft, and this is going to be the 73 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: year since you've been playing, Nathaniel Newton, that the Cowboys 74 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: get back to Super Bowl contention. Super Bowl? Uh? Uh 75 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: what am I looking for? Uh? They just get back 76 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: to being super Bowl realistic opportunities. Right. So, coming out 77 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: of this draft, how do you feel? I feel great, 78 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: But this is the hope. I feel great. Nate Newton's 79 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: hope is what a lot of Cowboy fans have, Like 80 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: you might be feeling differently. No, I'm just saying that 81 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: this this is what Jerry Jones and the Jones family's 82 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: banks on. They bank on no matter what went wrong. 83 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: No matter how people feel. There's this cycle of resetting 84 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: hope and optimism every single year, and it starts in 85 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: the draft. And they'll bring some guys in because you 86 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: watch the Twitter landscape and you look across the board 87 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: and the Cowboy fans, the true blue and Silver Cowboy lifers, right, 88 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: they will dissect every pick and no matter how good 89 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: or how bad, they're going to say that this is 90 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: the next you know we got. We got we got 91 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: the next Hall of Fame offensive lineman, and we got 92 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: the next Hall of Fame defensive end. We got the 93 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: next Hall of Fame Wilde receiver. It's that level of 94 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: hope that the Jones is bank on and profits off 95 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: of every single year. So as we get into this 96 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: to this draft, our first round pick, and we're gonna 97 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn it over to you, Nate, because none 98 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: of us know offensive line better than you. Well, So 99 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: when you look at Tyler Smith, the number number twenty 100 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: four overall pick for the Cowboys in the first round 101 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: out of Tulsa, they have him listed as tackle, but 102 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna start out as an offensive guard. And the 103 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: pros about this guy is he's mean, he's nasty, he 104 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: has size, he has strength. The cons about this guy 105 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: is he come from a small market school. Yea, let 106 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: the NC double a last year and penalties for an 107 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, and now that he's moving to guard, he 108 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: already has some kind of hand placement technique issues. But 109 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: he's they're saying, you know, moving in to guard. You 110 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: can kind of descuye that a little bit because he's 111 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: not on the island, you know, one on one. So 112 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: there's a pro there's some cons about this this player. 113 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: But Nate, how do you feel about the Cowboys first 114 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: round pick? You know, you know all the few people too, man, 115 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: because like I told Kurt earlier and I'm telling everybody, 116 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't do my normal. Just go at it, 117 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, looking at Lyman going to the Senior Bowl. 118 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: Because the way I looked at the Cowboys this year 119 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: here is I want to I want to get a 120 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: player a fresh start, and I read these things you're 121 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: talking about Jazz. I talked to a few people. The 122 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: only problem he has his hand place. Man. His feet 123 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: is good, his hips are good. All coach Filmer gotta 124 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: do is some technique is on hand techniques. Randy Wright 125 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: was good with you know the taekwondos and there those 126 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: type techniques, punching, releasing these coach Filmer gotta teach that 127 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: he didn't do a very good job of the last 128 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: got enough out of here. He's got to teach that. 129 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm serious. Yeah no, So let me ask you this, 130 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: because what we had before and Connor Williams, the biggest 131 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: thing was the holding, the holding right out. I've never 132 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: played in the trenches. Thank god, I'm way too pretty 133 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: for that, way too pretty planning me. It ain't too 134 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: many handsome, you know, trench players. Yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all 135 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: get roughed up in there. How you see it, but 136 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: how you feel it. But when you talk about coaching. 137 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: The last guy that left here, his issue was strength, right, 138 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: didn't have really good strength, got got bullied a little bit, 139 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: had some other issues. And I looked at and I say, 140 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: are we taking one issue and replacing it with another? 141 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: Because if we're lying on coaching, to me, I thought 142 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: it was a lot easier to build strength. And tell 143 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, Nate, to build strength in a 144 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: player who's been here for a couple off seasons than 145 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: it is to build and better technique. You it depends 146 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: on the player. You know, I tell people, if you're 147 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: not an athlete, you though, so you gotta have some 148 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: type of athletic ability about you, and you got to 149 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: have a willingness to learn. This kid can learn technique 150 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: if the people I talked to, he got decent feed, 151 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: he got good helps, he's mean, he's aggressive. Okay, what 152 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: you gotta do now? It's locking my hand placement. It's 153 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: always about my hands. It's always about my hand. That 154 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: that's one thing, that's one thing out of a million 155 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: things that can go wrong. If he can learn his 156 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: hand placement, if he can punch, punch, learn how to 157 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: let it go, you know, uh, jab staff whatever. We 158 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: had coaches coach wise, we had coaches that could coach 159 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: that technique is a want to thing. The ability to 160 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: go out there, hit a gold post when nobody else 161 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: ain't looking, punch your wall when nobody else ain't looking, 162 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: hit the speedbags when nobody else ain't looking, doing the 163 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: things that's necessary. What about putting the hot tie one in? Well, 164 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: if we hopeing tyronno't do that more than I didn't. 165 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: I thought technique could be easily learned than strength, Like 166 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: you said, because I would think that just that's like 167 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: no your makeup or whatever, you know. I think I 168 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: think for me, technique wise, it's habit. Right, Technique is 169 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: habit for me. And what ends up happening is with 170 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: technique is that I'm so used to doing things a 171 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: certain way. And here is the biggest difference between high 172 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: school college and pros. High school college and pros is 173 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: what I was in high school. I was the best 174 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: thing around. So I didn't have to have really good 175 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: technique because there was I just was a better athlete 176 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: than anybody that I faced. Then college you kind of 177 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: got to start figuring out you gotta add a little 178 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: stress because now you're coming into seventeen years old. There's 179 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: a couple of twenty two year old guys around there, right, 180 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: and then some of those guys a league ready, because 181 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: now you're starting to go into facing not only guys 182 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: from your small fishbowl, but now facing guys all across 183 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: the country. But then when you get to the league, 184 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: that is the best of the best of the best. 185 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: So those guys are the strongest, the quickest, the fastest. 186 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: So if you're technique over all those years has not 187 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: been habit forming to the to the to the best 188 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: of your ability, and you've created bad habits. But because 189 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: you were just a better athlete than most people. What 190 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: happens when you face the Nate Newtons of the world. 191 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: What happens when you go and face the retched whites 192 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: of the world. You know, when you when you gotta 193 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: face Aaron Donald, who is a tactician and don Yeah, 194 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's the part. So 195 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I always get in the right room and 196 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: lift weights. But to see this thing is, this is 197 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: what happened to Connor. It didn't matter. See this is 198 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: where your mind got to be strong. It didn't matter 199 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: what Connor did in the weight room. In his mind, 200 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: he was never strong enough. So yeah, when his mind 201 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: is always I gotta do a little extra, I gotta 202 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: do a little show of I gotta This guy's getting well, 203 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: even though the guy right in front of him, this 204 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: guy's getting Oh he's bullet me all to say, you 205 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: gotta hold him. This guy don't have that problem mentally, right, 206 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: he know he's a bullet dog, he know he's bad, 207 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: he know he's strong. He don't have that problem. So 208 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: all you gotta do is work on his technique. So 209 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: it's that. I mean, we expect the first round pick 210 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: to be plugging play starter. Is he gonna be able 211 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: to learn that technique in time for this season? Yes 212 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: he will. He has no yeah, he has nothing else 213 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: to do. No no, no, no, no, jet Jess. I'm 214 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: just I'm gonna tell you what, Jimmy, Jimmy Johnson, wanta 215 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: stole one of our players? Son, did you like your 216 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: mom and daddy? Get up and go to work every day? 217 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: This is your job. Now. If you don't want to 218 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: get better, going back to school, and yes it'll hurt, 219 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: we ain't gotta pay you and we can get somebody else. See, 220 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: this is job. This is the problem that the Cowboys 221 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: have been having lately. Is not enough dedication till you 222 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: craft you This guy gotta be dedicated, you know. And 223 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: I heard miss missus Jones Stephen Jones say, well, we 224 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: don't know where he gonna be. That's what Todd oshway. 225 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: We don't know. If this dude is not a starter, 226 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: that's the draft pick you wasted. I promise you could 227 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: have went someone in a different position and got a 228 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: starter this Cowboy team. It's not good enough to say 229 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: this guy's not a starter. Yeah, but you drafted the 230 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: wrong guy. I gotta believe that. We talked last week 231 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: about if the center's there or the guard is there, 232 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: you prefer the center. But then the bomb was there. Yeah, 233 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: they took he got taken next. I guess the Cowboys 234 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: felt he was a little light. But was that a 235 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: guy You're like, wait a minute, we shouldn't be taking him. 236 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: I think where the Cowboys went was and this is 237 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: I said, this is the phrase of the world combination 238 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: that I'm beginning to hate. It's possesion of flexibility. They 239 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: went and saw and said he this is a guy 240 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: who can play guard right now and in the future, 241 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: can bump out to play tackle when Tying does it. 242 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: Time was no longer here. And I think that to 243 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: them was more tantalizing and and and sexy to get 244 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: a guy who had position flexibility where he can start 245 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: one way and then two or three years maybe just 246 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and bump on out the left tackle that 247 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: way you have time, you have you know, he can 248 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: kind of still building those things and instead of just 249 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: to go into the center where he would have when 250 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: he would have had to have been that one spot, 251 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: that one place for the duration of his career. So 252 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: I think that's where it kind of went. I thought, 253 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, I would have preferred, like Nate was saying, 254 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: give me the shore fire plug and play guard right now. Yeah, 255 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: you got to. You got a right tackle, whether you 256 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: like him or not, it's still you got an all 257 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: the world at your right guard. You got a center 258 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: that's okay, he just okay, he's an average center. Okay, 259 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: you get a guard. Now it's and then if you 260 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: get if you get the center just to hold up. 261 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: You got a guard that's gonna start. This is this guy. 262 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: Now you gotta Now, you still got a left tackle. 263 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: That's maybe I can deal with that. I can deal 264 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: with the maybe you can't have a bunch of maybes 265 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. And I was gonna ask you 266 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: guys this question as well, because when you look at 267 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: the way that this line is currently built, right, let's 268 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: just go and we don't know, but we're gonna assume 269 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: right now that the starters will be right tackle, steel 270 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: right guard, Zack Martin u center being center, and now 271 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: Smith and Smith at left guard at left tackle. What 272 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: happens when, Because it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. I'll 273 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: bet more join it when Tyrant has to go and 274 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: miss three games, four games. And now you bump this 275 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: kid out? Who do you bump this kid out to 276 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: play tackle? Or do you leave him put to continue 277 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: his progression and growth there? And now you put someone 278 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: else elset tackle? And if you're gonna put someone else 279 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: a tackle, who is that tackle that you're now saying 280 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna have to play and be be the force 281 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: on this offensive line for my forty million dollar quarterback, 282 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: Will McClay will figure it out. Yeah, well, you know 283 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: he don't just taking a shot at the officeive coordinator 284 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: when you don't have a scheme, Okay, you can't. You 285 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: can't afford to just bounce around anybody everywhere when your 286 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: scheme and it's just me taking a shot at the 287 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. People, when you don't have a solid scheme 288 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: and you're running a bunch of plays, you you you 289 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: gotta get it in, find out what your guys can do. 290 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: Get it. Don't have his kid head spending. Let him 291 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: get in work on his technique. Be the best guard 292 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: he can be. You know, are the best tackle. But 293 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: back and forth, no, no, no, no, that's that's don't 294 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: do that to this kid. Yeah, I think that'd be Yeah, 295 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: that's gonna do that. See, let will mcclayum go out 296 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: and find somebody, because uh, I think they made a 297 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: good pick. I don't know how great it to be, 298 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: but I think they made a good pick. All right, 299 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: mister Jones. He did say in the press comments that 300 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: they you know, they drafted Josh Ball last year and 301 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: then drafted this Matt Let's go from North Dakota this year, 302 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: and he was saying basically, we have we may have 303 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: our spring or our swing tackle on the roster. Now 304 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: are these two young guys, which that sounds pretty dangerous 305 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: to me. It does, But what can you what can 306 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: you do? What can you do? Find the matter? Yeah, 307 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: there's something out there. But what we will do is 308 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: we'll take our first break of the day and we'll 309 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: go through the rest of the Cowboys draft picks and 310 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: um and the start of drafts, and I'll tell you, 311 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: I tell you why I think the Eagles and the 312 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: Cowboys maybe got two of the biggest draft steals in 313 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: all of football. After the break, we'll hang it with 314 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: the Boys. Hey, Cowboys fans, ready to spice up your 315 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: next watch party, Bring Yokierro guacamole and be the game 316 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: day hero. Yokierro means I want and we know you want. 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Back Hanging with the Boys. 352 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the most search podcast on the dot 353 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: com network. Hanging with the boys. We are without our 354 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: fearless leader today, Shannon Gross. So I'm in the captain's 355 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: seat and Hanging with the Boys is brought to you 356 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: by Wingstop where Flavorite gets its wings. Um, we went 357 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: through the first round, well, we went to the first 358 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 1: pick of the first round for the for the Cowboys, 359 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: and we all had our fields of what we what 360 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: we thought he was going to be. And now I 361 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: want to go through the rest of this draft and 362 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: and and talk about some of the other players that 363 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: the Cowboys picked up. And when we get to it, 364 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: I also want to tell you why I think that 365 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys as well as our rival the Philadelphia Eagles, 366 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: maybe got two of the biggest steals in the draft. 367 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: And I mean, like upside is upside, but it's going 368 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: to take a little bit of help from some other 369 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: departments to make sure that this thing works out. So 370 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: let's dive right into our second round pick, which was 371 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: Sam Williams, which, by the way, Nate, because we know 372 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: how you are just so eloquip when it comes to names. 373 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: He actually wants to go by d He doesn't want 374 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: to go by Sam. His middle name is like de 375 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: Eric or something like that, and he's like back home. 376 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: It was on a podcast I don't I don't remember 377 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: the podcast, and it was it was r J. Chowa, 378 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: Sorry if I don't remember the podcast. He was on 379 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: the podcast and he was talking about how back home 380 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: no one calls him Sam. He goes, when I go 381 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: back home, he goes, You'll never hear anyone say Sam. 382 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: Everyone calls me D So going forward, well, honor that 383 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: at least I will try. And then if you don't. 384 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: But if he doesn't do well, he will be Sam. 385 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: He doesn't play well, Samuel, he will be he will 386 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: be he will be Sam. And when you watch this 387 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: guy at Old Miss, you saw just his past rush ability, 388 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: right he was. He was one of the best pass 389 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: rushers and sack getters and all the football was the 390 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: first team, Yeah, the first team all SEC. I think 391 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: he had like three seasons where he was like, you know, 392 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: eight plus sacks. When you talk about trying now to 393 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: replace the absence of Randy Gregory at that book, imposition 394 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: to go along with with Tank Lawrence because I didn't 395 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: I didn't think the Cowboys were I didn't think the Cowboys. 396 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: If you watch him coming off that edge, having that 397 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: been uh and The thing that's remarkable about about d 398 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: Williams is this right here. It's the speed. Right He's 399 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: another one of those guys who at the draft ran 400 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: some of those insane numbers in the fourth and think 401 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: it was like a four four or something like that 402 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: at two hundred and fifty something pounds in the draft. 403 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: But he's good at the point if attack gets off blocks, 404 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: he knows how to get to the quarterback. And and 405 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: and having a guy like this, he still has some 406 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: some talking about technique, and I think that's a lot 407 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: of thing that we're gonna look at when we're talking 408 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: about a lot of draft picks. Athleticism is so high now. 409 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: Guys are just so freaking athletic. It's it's it's ridiculous. 410 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: So sometimes the the focal point on technique isn't there 411 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: because it's like, you know what, when you're a college coach, 412 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: I don't have that much time to focus on technique. 413 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: Hey just dose your athletic ability and go get the quarterback, 414 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: and and and so if he can come in and 415 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: work with our staff and really working those hand placements, 416 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: that dip and ripped, the power punch, the long arm, 417 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: the stick, the getting around the corner, understanding where the 418 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: quarterback is in the pocket, and containing the quarterback while 419 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: still getting to the quarterback. I think, I think this 420 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: is going to be a very, very very high impact 421 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: player for the Cowboys. You know, I just love. I 422 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: just love when you come in in the first thing 423 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: the player directors say, or the head coach, they don't 424 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: have to say. You know, it's more than one way 425 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback. If you don't have speed. 426 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: Got got speed. He got a little athletic ability. I don't. 427 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot where he had to bend 428 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: a lot, and you know, bend the corner a lot. 429 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: But he, like you said, yeah, he know where the 430 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: quarterback at and he can get there in a hurry, 431 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: right there, right there, being able to bend, get that 432 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: little dipping rip, get there in a hurry. And so 433 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: when you see a guy that can do this right here, 434 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: all he need is just a little work from the coaches. 435 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: Don't bother him, enhance what he has and turn him loose. 436 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: You just bring him. Start him out as a pass rusher, 437 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, bring him in. Yeah yeah, do you worry 438 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: about the stopping the running? He looked like he can 439 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: get underneath some blocks and he ain't got to take everybody. 440 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: He quick enough to get up underneath some blocks and 441 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: make some things. After you see him right now, he 442 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: can jump out of the way and get back in 443 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: the hole enhance. See that's what I like about Deef 444 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: as a coordinator. He sees what this guy is, and 445 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: he in the hands and add on to what he is. 446 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, so what I'm seeing right there, man, 447 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna happen to herd with him. And 448 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: they talked about one of him like you know when 449 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: you go back and you watch film and they they 450 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: always say, put on that that tape when he would 451 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: have went to cross one of the top tackles in 452 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: this draft and you saw him right there. He ran 453 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: over uh you know and around a lot of those 454 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: guys when you're talking about some of the best offensive linemens. 455 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: So and I will say this, I'm always a fan 456 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: of I'm a fan of pedigree. So like if your 457 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: daddy or your or your brothers or you know, you 458 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: got I'm always a fan of that. If you got 459 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: that thing in your family, Jean, I'm always a fan 460 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: of that, because that that tells me that you least 461 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: know you know around it, you know it, you understand it. Yeah, 462 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: and then I'm really high on where did you play, 463 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: like to say that you were one of the top 464 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: dogs in the SEC. When you go up against you know, 465 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: you have to go up against the Georgia's, the Alabama's, 466 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: the A and M's, the Mississippi States and all that 467 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: kind of guy who produces a lot of the guys 468 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: who we watch on Sundays that and you're able to 469 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: compete at a high level there. That always does a 470 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: little bit more to me to say that he'll be 471 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: used to the competition level. Uh, comes Sunday here and 472 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: he knock on his off the field, especially when your 473 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: second round pick last year, he's got some off the field. 474 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, talent verse tolerance. I'm gonna 475 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: tell you something. I just think. I think when when 476 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: you when you get when you get get a guy 477 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: like that, you're just telling straight up said, look here, 478 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: this is what we expect. Yeah, but they tell all 479 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: those guys that you got, you got, you gotta you gotta, 480 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: you gotta stick to it. You can't tell a guy 481 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: and then that's like ten of year kid, get over there, 482 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: and sit down and then you walk out the room. 483 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: You got to be willing to say sit down, and 484 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: if if he flinched, be on him. You got to 485 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: be on this kid man. Now, if it's an honest 486 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: mistake where something went hayward is for that hot split second. 487 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: If you have no history of that, if you nothing, 488 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: that's another story. If a kid ain't got a history 489 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: or something, I don't know him, so I can't make 490 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: a judgment. But it's how you open the door and 491 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: let a person in your house is how you gonna right. 492 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: If you got you know, if you got rules and regulations, 493 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, uh, and then this kid break these rules, right, 494 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: it's got to be something to pay. He can't, You can't, can't. 495 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: You know. Missus Jones helped me a couple of times, 496 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: but he came a point where he said, you know what, man, 497 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: no more the next one out the dough. Yeah, well 498 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: I didn't make it out the dough. Yeah. That's the 499 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: biggest thing is there's a couple of things that that stardom, 500 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: that celebrity, that money does it. Of course, you know, 501 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: makes your pocks a little bit fatter, but it also 502 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: enhances who that you really are. You know, like say 503 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: like money doesn't change you. Money, fame doesn't change you. 504 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: It makes you exactly who you are on another level. 505 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: And that's one of the biggest things. And you know, 506 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: I'll have a chance to talk to the rookies again 507 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: this year and I'll call me, I'll go over to 508 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: Free I'll reiterated again to the rookies like this ain't 509 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: no miss, This ain't no miss. It's not like whatever 510 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: you I don't care what program you are a part of. 511 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: I don't care Alabama USC, I don't care. This ain't 512 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: it you what you're about to experience as far as 513 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: coverage and notoriety and and and and and recognition, I 514 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: don't care what program you've been a part of. When 515 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: you come to the Dallas Cowboys, it is magnified times fifty, 516 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: and every little every little thing that you do becomes 517 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: a mountain, and every mountainous thing that you do becomes 518 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: a planet. And I think sometimes they don't understand that 519 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: because you in those small, little country college towns, if 520 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: you were a man, you were able to get away 521 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: with those little things. In Dallas, you're not, especially with 522 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: social media and everything, You're not going to be able 523 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: to get away with those things. So I hope, I 524 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: hope that those things, like Nate was saying, is not 525 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: a history, it's not a pattern, but those things are 526 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: being able to to be rectified and coming here says Hey, 527 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: I got a new leaf, I got a new start, 528 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna change 529 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: the narrative of what that was in the past and 530 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: go forward with great things. Let's up into our next pick, 531 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys out the door with Amara Cooper out the 532 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: door was said Wilson, out the door, Malik Turner into 533 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: the door is Southern Alabama. Jalen Tolbert thoughts, this is 534 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: just a guy that's going to put in work that 535 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: that that frees up ceedee lamb. This is the guy 536 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: who are going to replace with Where do you think 537 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: he fits in the in the in the pecking order 538 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: of getting this offensive tack back to being one that 539 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: people fear. He's got good size and they say he's 540 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 1: had obviously a great college career, although it was at 541 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: a lower level. I don't know if that's going to 542 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: be a big jump for him. I mean, he's a 543 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: third round rookie. I don't know. How much you can 544 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: expect of an impact this year, especially with Gallup. You know, 545 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to be if he 546 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: can step into the I mean the number two role. 547 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if he can do that, and number 548 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: three role, you know. So I think he's just from 549 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: what I've read, he's everybody's high on him. Is a 550 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 1: good pick, but you know, I don't know how much 551 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: bigger an impact he's gonna have to share. Jesse. When 552 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: we was talking last week, all I wanted was me 553 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: a route runner that could catch the ball. This kid's 554 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: supposed to be a route runner. Now I know he's 555 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with hands, and on this level, 556 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna put lay hands on him. But can can 557 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: he run his routes with precision? With precision? And can 558 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: he come out of those brakes at the right time 559 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: and do the right thing so that that's what that's what? 560 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: Can they accelerate this? Do we have the wide receiver 561 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: coaches and the quarterbacks to help this kid accelerate this? 562 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: Because we took CD Lamb a couple of years ago 563 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: and Dak personally work with him. Can they personally work 564 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: with his kid and accelerate him just a little bit. 565 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: So when he gets ready to face our corners in 566 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: training camp, would he come out of training camp? Will 567 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: he have some of that with him? Will he have 568 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: that confidence to run those routes and to understand that 569 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: the different coverages that's gonna face him. That's a lot 570 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: to ask. What when I see him? When I see 571 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: him play, the first thing when I look at a 572 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: receiver and I watch him on film, it's always like 573 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: I get speed, I get routes, I get off the 574 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. The first thing I look at. The 575 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: first thing I look at is how does he catch 576 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: the football? Is it a comfortable thing? Right? Because you 577 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: watch some guys who struggle and they may be good players, 578 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: but they like bobble the ball. It's body catches it's 579 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: it's like kind of unshowing themself. And that's the one 580 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: thing when I when I watch Jalen that sticks out 581 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: is he has a supreme amount of confidence. When the 582 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: ball is in the air, he attacks it, but he 583 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: doesn't attack it where it's he's fighting it. It's a 584 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: it's a it's a I'll tell you off air of 585 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: my cultures to say, how you have the kind of 586 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: credible football. It's like when you like when you're when 587 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: a woman, It's like, you know, you you want to 588 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: be firm and and and and and and aggressive, but 589 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: you gotta do it with the general touch, you know. 590 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: And so when I look at him the way he 591 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: attacks the ball, it's firm and aggressive, but it's a 592 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: it's a confidence in general touch. And so what I 593 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: want to know from when I see him play is 594 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: where is he gonna play? Because he has size? Yeah, 595 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: And I am just a firm believer of this, And 596 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: I think if you're going to get the maximum and 597 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: the best out of Ceedee Lamb, it is no longer 598 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: leaving Ceede Lamb of the slot. It is playing him 599 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: back outside where he was most of the time at 600 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma um being able to be the playmaker that 601 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: he is now. If this young guy's gonna be able 602 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: to come in and make the proper adjustments and do 603 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: the things where he understands how to run routes in 604 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: the slot and be a slot receiver with the coverages 605 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: and and all that kind of space stuff, then I 606 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: think he'll he'll help this team tremendously. But the one 607 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: thing I can for sure feel good about this kid. 608 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: When you watch him on tape, he catch the football. 609 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: He catches the football like that. It's contested catches over 610 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: the middle behind him up high. And when you see 611 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: that in college, you you hope and you say, well, 612 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: I was playing on a team where when we face 613 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: tougher competition, my quarterback may not have been NFL type 614 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, So I had to make a lot of 615 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: these contested catches. And he's done. He's done it with ease, 616 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: and he's able to catch the ball and then get 617 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: that yak as you see him running away from defenders 618 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: against Tennessee. So you would like to think when he 619 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: gets in the league and he has a quarterback who 620 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 1: actually could throw the ball to him where it's supposed 621 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: to be, when it's supposed to be there, that that's 622 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: going to help him much more. Uh in his in 623 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: his after the catchplaymakaability. When'd you think of DA calling 624 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: him ahead of time getting him He supposedly had a conversation, 625 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: like the team asked him to talk to him a 626 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: little bit. I love it. I mean, this is going 627 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: to be this is going to be one of your 628 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: guys like that. This is going to be one of 629 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: your guys. So you need to get in with him 630 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: right now and set expectations here here, here's what I think. Uh, 631 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to do, young fella. You know, whenever 632 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: they call your name. I don't need you now at 633 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: South Beach, you know, down there and enjoy the fruits 634 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: of your labor. So pick up So pick up Sam 635 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: on the way up here. I come on, I need 636 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: you to go ahead, you know, get it out your 637 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: system the weekend of the draft, and then I need 638 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: you on a plane. I need you. I need you 639 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: at the at the dackyard so we can get this 640 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: stuff together and pick up Sam on the way. Now. 641 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: This next draft picked the fourth pick, one hundred twenty 642 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: ninth pick Nate. This is the look at him. Look out, 643 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: A look at him, look out. Look let's just started draft. 644 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: The Cowboys went and drafted Jake Ferguson out of Wisconsin. Um, 645 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna toss it to you name. This is 646 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: a look him. Uh. This Ferguson kid, he has been 647 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: in the spotlight ever since he stepped on campus at Madison. 648 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: It took him a moment to get where he needed 649 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: to get. But this is what I like about this guy. 650 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: He's an All Big Ten selection. They don't throw the 651 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: ball at Wisconsin, y'all. They blocked, they block. He is 652 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: a reliable pass catcher and a blocker, and he's the 653 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: best blocker in this class. I mean this, This is 654 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: what Kurt and his boys wrote. Yeah, and we went 655 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: and got this dude. We got a blocking tight end. Fellas. 656 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: Cut the rest of him right now, Jake Ferguson. Once 657 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: he learns the speed of the game, Once he learns 658 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: the speed of the game, now we can have an 659 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: outside zone play for Tony Pollard. We can have an 660 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: outside zone play for Tony Pollard. Well, this is the 661 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: start of the draft. Besides getting Quinn back in here 662 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: as a coach, this is the start of the draft. Well, 663 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, we've seen anything else. Let Sam man man. Well, yeah, 664 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: Then we get into the fifth round and this is 665 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: where the Cowboys had majority of their picks. And this 666 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: is the portion that Day three of the draft is. 667 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people called the Scouts Draft. 668 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: That's when guys like Chris Hall and Will McClay that's 669 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: when that's when you're in the rest of them. This 670 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: is when you kind of really really really make a 671 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: name for yourself. When you and the scouts portion of 672 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: the draft, I always feel like you should be able 673 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: to go find at least three rotational players, one starter 674 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: and another development guy. Three rotations, three rotational guys, core 675 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: special teams guys. No, no, no, that that's that's the 676 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: scout portion of the draft. Three rotational guys slash core 677 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: special teamers, a starter, and then the future project. Okay, 678 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: that that is. That is the scout portion of that draft. 679 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: That's how you kind of make your way. And then 680 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: you get into I can't even pronounce this name, Matt 681 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: Let's go, Let's go. Let's go. From Northern Dakota. Chris 682 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: was showing us some b robe while we're in the 683 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: break of this guy, and the first thing that sticks 684 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: out of when you see him on film is one 685 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: he's I'm not gonna say. I'm not gonna say what 686 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna say. He's mammoth. I was gonna say 687 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: he's huge. Everybody like, oh, he is a big dude. 688 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: Like he is a big dude. And the second thing 689 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: you think that right there, boom, he's a maler. He 690 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: is a guy who was going to just maul you 691 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 1: down now again, really big, big in size, a maller. 692 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: How will he handle the speed of the national football 693 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: list Because normally when guys are that big and that tall, uh, 694 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: sometimes you you struggle with the quick hips hips the hips. Now, 695 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: if he gets his hands on you, it's probably night night, 696 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. But it's it's it's that. Part of 697 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: it is it's being able to um, being able to 698 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: get in. And he'll learn from a great guy. He'll 699 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 1: learn from Tyrant Smith, who's another you know, large human 700 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: being who it's unfair the way he run that back 701 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: because you see he right, he did something real nice. 702 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: If we could run the other one back where rat 703 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: when he hit the guy he sunk his hips. Yeah, 704 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: if he can do that repeatedly over and over and over. 705 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: See right here and watch okay, right here, the grunted 706 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 1: hit boom, he sunk his hips and came back inside. 707 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: That's a hell of a thing. Now, I know that's 708 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: against Poe Dunk whoever, blind system, but that was a 709 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: hell of a thing. Sank your hips to fall back inside. 710 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: That was nice. That was nice. So this is potentially 711 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: who may be your future, um, your future left tackle 712 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: this may be the guy who who ushers in the 713 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: future of Cowboy football at left tackle. And it's not if, 714 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: but when Tyrant Smith either misses games and or retires, 715 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: that's I may have about another year maybe two left 716 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: in the tank before he hangs up pitch cleets with 717 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: all the injuries neck, back, elbow, all that stuff. So 718 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: getting him in um, getting him in down and allowed 719 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: to develop is gonna be key. One hundred sixty seven 720 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: Duran Bland dB out of Fresno State. UM. I'm not 721 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: gonna spend much time on him. Don't know much about him. Cornerback, yeah, 722 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: cornerback gonna get some some You always try to grab 723 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: as many cornerbacks that you can in the draft in 724 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: time so you can have it, you know, to get great. 725 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: Gil Brad used to tell us, man, when you get 726 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: past the fourth round, you should be seen and not heard. 727 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: You're like it, You should be seen and not heard. 728 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: You know what, you can talk about all these dudes. 729 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: I want to see him, I got told Kurt on 730 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: the phone earlier. I want to see him. Yeah, some 731 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: guys I'm gonna talk about up into the fourth round. 732 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 1: After the fourth round, I want to see you. Jess 733 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: I want to see you. I want to see you saying, Wow, man, 734 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: that that guy they're gonna be on the practice squad. 735 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: That guy they're gonna be a rotational guy. Ooh, that 736 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: guy that could even be in a rotation, you know, 737 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: on the field rotation. What do you think about the 738 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: Since Will McClay has kind of took it over, he's 739 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,959 Speaker 1: he's prioritized like Power five guys, it seems like that's 740 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: been the focus of the draft. But this year that 741 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 1: you know they Tulsa, South Alabama, Fresno State, I mean 742 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: there's looked like have they Dakota? I mean, you know what, 743 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: you know what has happened. It is called you can 744 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: get into something that portals you, that transport so you 745 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: can't just lock in on the Bamas of the world 746 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: no more. Because a kid from Bama can get mad 747 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: and run straight to Jackson State. Kid from Florida State 748 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: can run right on over to North Carolina. So you 749 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: gotta be now, you gotta be like Scotty beat me 750 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: over to the South Alabama. We got a kid that 751 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: just left, We just got a kid that just left 752 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: ten the sea. We need to see you got to 753 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: take it where this is how it was in the 754 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: early seventies. Yeah, the late sixties and the early seventies 755 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: when when when athletes was everywhere, then all of a sudden, 756 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: the power five took over. This is just increase the 757 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: learning curve. It though, Uh, with wide receivers. It should 758 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: with wide receivers, and it should help quarterbacks, you know, 759 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: but wide receivers and cornerbacks that helps offensive lineman. I 760 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: still think you have to be be real, real, real 761 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: capital because nobody's teaching feed anymore. Nobody's teaching feed. Everybody's 762 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: talking grab, grab overpower. But the other positions it should help. 763 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: Because you do, you can get a kid from anywhere now, 764 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: and so your coach is gonna have to be on 765 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: par you know. I was talking to Dan just yesterday. 766 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, you have to be on par. You know. 767 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: He released a few guys because he like, man, my 768 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: kid got stuck and we needed another level. So he 769 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: went and got a coach that can get his kid 770 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: to another level. You you have to go now and 771 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: get a coach. Get a coach that can coach you know, people, people, 772 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: not scheme people. Uh. And so I get to my tees. Okay, okay, 773 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man, don't get mad at me. I 774 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: get to my tes. At one seventy six in the 775 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: fifth round, linebacker out of LSU, the Moon Clark. This 776 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: kid could quite possibly be the steel of the draft. 777 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: Between he and the dean kid out of Georgia who 778 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: the Eagles took can possibly be the steel of the draft. 779 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: What is he? The dean kid? Play line? Doctor? The 780 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: only thing that stands in the way is the medicals. Right, 781 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: that was the issue. And with this kid, it's a 782 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: back fusion, and so he's basically gonna be red shirting 783 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: uh this upcoming season. But if doctor Cooper and company, 784 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: Brown and company can work to get this kid back, 785 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: and I know that everyone's gonna say, you know had 786 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: the fear of the Jalen Smith, Right, I get it, 787 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm all. The difference is this kids it 788 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: was a fifth round and not a second rounder. Yeah, right, 789 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: that's the biggest that the capitol isn't as great if 790 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: this kid doesn't pan out. But I think you talk 791 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: about value. This was a kid prior to the back 792 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: fusion would have gone either could have snuck it to 793 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: the first round. It's not gonna make out of the 794 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: second round. That's how good of a that's how good 795 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,959 Speaker 1: of Look at this kid. He could run you down, 796 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: he could be physical with you. He played an lsu 797 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean this is this is this kid is real, 798 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: real man, and that and you this is a no lose, 799 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: this being the fact where he was drafted, where he 800 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: came from the competition. This is a no lose for 801 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: the Cowboys or win win either or you more you're 802 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: more positive? No, No, your wording was more positive and 803 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: a correct way to do it. This is a win 804 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. If he don't touch the field, this 805 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: still was a win for the Cowboys. If he don't 806 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 1: touch the field, it's still a win. What happened to Jalen? 807 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 1: That that that No, that cannot happen. That cannot happen. Brother, 808 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: I mean you see it right here versus Clemson. I 809 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: mean running the ball down thirty yards down the football 810 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: field for an interception. There isn't anything that this kid 811 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: could not do in the football field. That's Matt corral 812 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: that he runs down right there. I mean he just 813 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: did the shark ken again. When I when I tell you, 814 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 1: if this back thing works out, and and I have 815 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: all the faith in the world in Britt Brown, because 816 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: when you look at what Jayleen Smith was his first 817 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,240 Speaker 1: year coming out after that injury, he was what happened 818 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: to his back? Man? What happened to Yeah, like it 819 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: was discovered till like at the combat combine kind of weird. 820 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: So he had he had to go and get neck 821 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: back fusion. Um, it was coming out to combine, and 822 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: that's what made him drop sick. I mean, of course 823 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: to the Will McClay way to go get him sons. 824 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,839 Speaker 1: So this is to me again the Dean kid out 825 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: of Georgia who went to Philadelphia and we got in 826 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: the film when his Dean kid, Oh no, he dean 827 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: kids should have been first round pick. Everybody even be 828 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: the first round pick. Wow, And what happened? He is 829 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: a medical medical shoulder, you know. And so I was 830 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: getting ready to lead. Yeah no, and he felt all 831 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: the way way way down. That's my second start. Let me, 832 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: let me start up, start him up. But he's a 833 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: year away, right, He's a year away. Year away. He'll 834 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,760 Speaker 1: be a year away. So he'll be oh man, cowboys 835 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: just had an a plus. I wouldn't go that far. Yeah, yeah, 836 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 1: for two bigs, but two bigs for me. No, I mean, 837 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: do you want to see Dean? I mean we didn't 838 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: draft from Philly dead. I would like to see Dan 839 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 1: man because Jes went that far. That mean he's something 840 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: to this kid. No, I just this is here's the 841 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: Dan kid right here. This is They always a little 842 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: bit undersize. But when when when you look at what 843 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: Georgie's defense was last year and they had Georgia had 844 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: I think fifteen or seventeen plift seen bro he was 845 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: the leader of that Georgia defense. Think about all the 846 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: players you had, you know, first round picks, uh number 847 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: one was who was number one overall? Was it the Walker? 848 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: Walker from Georgia? I mean then you had to David. 849 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean all those kids, and this kid was the 850 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: the he was the guy George defense Corrala mass and 851 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,479 Speaker 1: listen to me, he was the guy. He was the one. 852 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: And so the Eagle said, well, I'm an I'm I'm 853 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: a draft your big ugly that was in front of you, 854 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: number ninety nine, and I'm gonna line you up right 855 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: behind them. Yeah, so is he the Eagles? Man? I 856 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: don't like them. A pretty good weekend. I hate them 857 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: when they got fester cos they when he got Fester 858 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: Cox again again, they went and got the updated version, 859 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,919 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty. What I'm saying, man, Flexer Cox, so 860 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: tackle from Alabama. Yeah, yeah, they went and got They 861 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't got Chris. You've been trained for a J. Brown, 862 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a lot harder this year. But 863 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 1: let's do this. Let's let's talk our final break. We 864 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: got another break, Yeah, we got two. We got two 865 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: twos getting ready to lea. So you brought back up 866 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 1: these kids. Man, let's do our final break and we'll 867 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, finish out the rest of this draft. 868 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: Talk about some free agents I have. I have a 869 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: name for you. I have two names for you, Nate. 870 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 1: I got two names for you, Nate in the undrafted 871 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: class that you're gonna love. 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Dude, taco guy, Yeah, 921 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: he's gotta be cooked right, he's gotta be fixed right 922 00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,879 Speaker 1: and in a dude, I'm gonna tell you so, I'm 923 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: gonna tell y'all something right now. Somebody told me this 924 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: week gutta used to work for us. Uh bullock, He's 925 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean a taco? I said, yeah, what a chicken beef? No, 926 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 1: it's turkey. I said, that's not taco. That's of bread 927 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 1: and some meat, some crackers and some meat. Tacos. There's 928 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: only two things, fellas. That's chicken a beef, all right, 929 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,760 Speaker 1: port I slept pork, But don't tell me you eating turkey. 930 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: Come on, man, wow, listen, we live to do that. 931 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you got your fish tacos, your tacos, you know, 932 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 1: brisket tacos, a lot of different things. Man. Come on, man, 933 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: Kurt Op, you're a taco guy. Oh yeah, that tacos 934 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,359 Speaker 1: last night that I'm not really talking if taco's gonna 935 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 1: make your pass gas. They ain't tacos. I do think 936 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 1: tacos are over that right, what you're doing in there. Uh, 937 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: let's let's finish up this draft. And I got two 938 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 1: names for Nate that I think he's gonna love. Uh 939 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 1: and our undrafted class, the last pick of the fifth round, Nate, 940 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: you have been screaming for this type of player, Uh, 941 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: A big, nasty, a big space eating dude. And they 942 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 1: found that guy in the fifth round in Arkansas, the 943 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,479 Speaker 1: defensive tackle John Ridgeway six foot five three twenty plus 944 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: pounds and is he real? Three hundred and twenty pounds? 945 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: Come an man from Kentucky decide he wanted to lose 946 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: weight last year? So is he? I need a dude 947 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: the combine. I need a dude like I watched this 948 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: movie where they showed his big caterpedlar just over big sloby, 949 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: nasty white calipillar, just laying out there, man, And that's 950 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 1: what I need. I just need a guy that just 951 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: just gonna lay on the ground. And that's a legit 952 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,320 Speaker 1: three twenty right there, right, that's a legit through twenty. 953 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,399 Speaker 1: That's a big dude. So no, man, he may get 954 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: here and all of a sudden, think he'll pass rush. 955 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: He might want to, That's what happened to all that 956 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: fat guys. He might want turkey taco. Yeah, thank you, 957 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 1: thank you. I need I need some guys that are 958 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 1: gonna be needing gas X before the game. You know 959 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Yeah, that's a big, nasty blah blah 960 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah type guy coaching. I use the 961 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,280 Speaker 1: restaurant red quick like. Hold, you know what I'm saying. 962 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 1: You're thinking that type of guy, A gas X guy. Sure, yeah, 963 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: that way. I just want somebody that when we because 964 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna have a very good team 965 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: this year. Let's say we trip into the playoffs. One 966 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: thing I do not want to happen is run right 967 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: after the middle. Night. The middle didn't run outside, I 968 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: didn't touch it out. I do not want to see that. 969 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: We've seen that enough, right, what's your second guy? And 970 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: then our other guy is a Devin Harper linebacker out 971 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma State. Got him in the sixth round, like 972 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 1: one ninety three. But to your point, night, Um, when 973 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 1: you look at these draftees from one to six, it 974 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: seems like that there has been an attitude adjustment. It 975 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: seems like when you start looking at all of the 976 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: rite ups for these players, when you hear him speak 977 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,280 Speaker 1: in their interviews, one thing has kind of been the norm. 978 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:26,760 Speaker 1: It's been that these are aggressive, quote quote nasty players. 979 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: And I don't I mean nasty as far as attitude 980 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: rightly whip your head, yeah, punch you in the throat, 981 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 1: right like, you know, bite you, whatever it takes to 982 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,879 Speaker 1: get that done. So, whether that's from the offensive line 983 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: or from the defensive side of the ball. Um. I 984 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,880 Speaker 1: think that what happened to the Cowboys last year in 985 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 1: the playoffs again to forty nine ers, I think that 986 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: resonated and wrong. Or any team we played that had 987 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: an attitude, Yeah, yeah, any team we played that had 988 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 1: an attitude, we couldn't equal that. We couldn't equal that 989 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 1: floors right, you know, we need to go get Draymond 990 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: Green has changed that this year or a kind of 991 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: a slow build, you know, to quote the movie Murder 992 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: the Titans. Attitude reflects leadership. So I think the first 993 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: thing of it is it has to come from the coaches, Queen. 994 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 1: Our coaches have to have a nasty attitude. They have 995 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,800 Speaker 1: to want to see a couple of fights. Right. I 996 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 1: remember at times and you said this, and I've heard 997 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 1: Nate say this. I mean Michael said this at times 998 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 1: where Jimmy would come to Michael Irvin and say, listen, 999 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 1: his practice is dead. Go start a fight. Ye get 1000 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: somebody going, get somebody going, and whether that's get somebody 1001 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 1: going by try talking or fight happening. But it would 1002 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,360 Speaker 1: get kept with James Washington right for that. James was 1003 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 1: a good athlete, intelligent, way intelligent, and you would ever 1004 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 1: think the way he would act, but you can you 1005 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 1: can rest as shure if he he'll tried something and 1006 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: if Jimmy kind of smiled and then his own right, 1007 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And so you gotta have 1008 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 1: those types. That's smart memor. I said, James watching was 1009 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 1: smart beyond what you think, right, even though one time 1010 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: almost took out of the head off and I think 1011 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: that was just a littit too far and that really 1012 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: did start a fight. I practice went from here to 1013 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: playoff right when we got out of that practice by 1014 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 1: some guys hurt that practice. And you know, again that's 1015 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 1: a mentality that that has to resonate throughout the locker 1016 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: room right, it has to become We talk about identity 1017 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 1: like I go back and out, I just watch when 1018 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 1: when when when I watched after the fact, I watched 1019 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: the Niners walking out of the tunnel before that game, 1020 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 1: there was an attitude about who led that line. It 1021 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: was Deebo Samuels and Trick Williams like that, who got 1022 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 1: off the bus first? That lets as I'm working the 1023 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: game and PreO post game, I missed that. I didn't 1024 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 1: see it too afterwards and I saw that beforehand, I 1025 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: don't know, came over, came over anybody that right there? 1026 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 1: That tells me right here that those two dudes is leaked. 1027 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: And in the quarterback fell in behind them bob in 1028 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: his head and I said, I saw that because we 1029 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 1: was at the game. Yeah, And I'm like, I'm looking 1030 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: that we read it for that, I asked myself, and 1031 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: I asked that guys and said, y'all think we read 1032 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 1: it for that? And I thought about what Jesse said, Well, 1033 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: Nat can't do it in one week. I'm like, yeah, 1034 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 1: you can't remember we went back and physical and I'm like, 1035 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 1: they bob into the music because I remember we did 1036 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: them like that with our young guys. When they came 1037 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: in our stadium over there and Irving and them young 1038 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 1: guys did the same thing, and we did that. We 1039 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: we took them, We physically beat them. I don't want 1040 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: to see the other word that we used to use. 1041 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 1: It's not cool anymore. And they took him, man, and 1042 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: they did the very same thing, and we gave him 1043 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: the ball first. Hey, yo, y'all can have the ball first. Yeah. 1044 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: And it feels like there's been an attitude attitude adjustment 1045 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 1: with the way that these draft picks wow have have 1046 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: come in. But we'll we'll see, we'll see. Because you 1047 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 1: can talk a good talk in the media, and you know, 1048 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 1: to win training camp, it's different. It's different once the 1049 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 1: pass come on, are you going to be And that's 1050 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 1: the biggest thing again, it's it's these young guys are 1051 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: coming in and they have that, but you have to 1052 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: have that leadership part of it. You need the other 1053 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to control that furies too. Yeah. Yeah, 1054 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 1: you need the other guys who are going to be 1055 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: here and be starters and be to pick up that 1056 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: as well to kind of really help this thing move forward. 1057 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 1: And before we go, I got two names for you. Nate, 1058 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: you got two more out of the No, no, no, 1059 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 1: I just these are just these are just names. These 1060 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: are just naked. I was going, I'll go around quickly 1061 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 1: with these and they won't get your grazes and then 1062 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 1: we'll get out of here. The first name is uh, 1063 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: where to go? I lost it? Marky's bail from from. 1064 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking for I'm looking for me. I'm looking for 1065 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Big Cat. There's a guy on this team, Big Cat Brian. 1066 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 1: That's it. There we go, you seef, Yeah, there is 1067 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Big Cat Bran. Now when a guy comes here to 1068 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 1: Dallas and don's the name big Cat, right, is there 1069 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 1: a level of expectation that's put on him or should 1070 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: you say to him, hold on, young fellow, I know what. 1071 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 1: They may have called you around the way, but until 1072 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: you prove to us. Now, now he did k and 1073 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 1: not see, but you know he's gonna say. You know 1074 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: your your your your coach, one of your coaches and 1075 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: big Cat is that Mark had Mark has you know? 1076 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: So this is this is this is big Cat right, 1077 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: you know right here? So should should be should he 1078 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: hold off on that on that on that name, that 1079 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 1: that that's his name, that's his name. You gotta give 1080 01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,959 Speaker 1: it to him. That's his name, Okay, but I'm saying 1081 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 1: I pronounced my homeboy. Man, is it Marco as Marquis 1082 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 1: Marquise Mark. But that's not the name I half for you. 1083 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: I know, I know it's not, but I gotta I 1084 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 1: gotta mention it. The name that I have for you 1085 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: is the old miss wide receiver down at the bottom. 1086 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 1: So miss then Terrio done terriost that right? Oh, I'm 1087 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 1: gonna call him by his right names until he ain't 1088 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 1: the right name no more? What this is actually the 1089 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 1: name that you actually called Don Terry. So you done Terio. 1090 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 1: Message up, he'll start Terry. So get this name right 1091 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 1: because you called the other Don Terry don Terrio for 1092 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 1: so long, so because he was with Donuts alone. So 1093 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,439 Speaker 1: quickly we'll go around. We'll close this thing out. Nate 1094 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 1: draft grade for the Cowboys for this twenty twenty two drafts, 1095 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 1: and it was early and then you gotta wait and 1096 01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 1: see the guys what I've seen. I got to get 1097 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 1: a Cowboys a B plus because they covered a position 1098 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: that I was really craving. Fun. I told you guys, 1099 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 1: they got a tight end that has the potential to 1100 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 1: be able to run block and catch. To me, that 1101 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,959 Speaker 1: is that is the steal of the draft for me, Jess, 1102 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 1: mister Jake Ferguson. I gotta give them a B plus 1103 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: for that. And they addressed other positions of needs, so 1104 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 1: I gotta give them. You know, I don't know about 1105 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 1: the first round pick. I am just watching and waiting. Now. 1106 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 1: I will be at camp if I gotta. You know, 1107 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: I ain't paying for come on, come on with somebody 1108 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: help me hurt I B Yeah. I think I like 1109 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 1: that they have, you know, filled some needs. It got 1110 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 1: good value. It seemed like in the later rounds. The 1111 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 1: question mark isn't gonna be the first round pick. Kenny 1112 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 1: step right now, how's he gonna adjust? So? Um that 1113 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 1: could bump. But I've heard or I have read some 1114 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,479 Speaker 1: other places people talking about about this is a boom 1115 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 1: or bus draft. I mean these some of these guys. 1116 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 1: You know, if as long as the tight end, you know, 1117 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 1: a bus, it could kind of go either way. But 1118 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: I have faith in Will mclu and his crew, and 1119 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm given a. I wouldn't se plus. I would 1120 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't see plus for the draft because of the 1121 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 1: questions you when you when you when you take a 1122 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 1: first round guy. To me, it's a guy that you 1123 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 1: have to be able to plug and play right now. 1124 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna getst plug and play, especially gets the 1125 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: offensive line. I need the guy's gonna come in and play. 1126 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 1: Plug him. I mean, not position flexibility. He needs to 1127 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,919 Speaker 1: be able to come in and play right away. Where 1128 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna have him play. There's still some uncertainty about that. 1129 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 1: This also a guy again who had the most penalties 1130 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 1: in college football from the old line spot. You gotta 1131 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 1: coach that technique. Man ain't week. That's the thing we snaps, 1132 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 1: by the way, huh he also had the most snaps. Yeah, yeah, 1133 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: still he betters. We still have to work his technique. 1134 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 1: His technique has to be flawless by time we get 1135 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 1: to train, by time we come out of training camp. 1136 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 1: I like. I like because the first round pick is everything, 1137 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,960 Speaker 1: regardless of whether people want to believe it is everything. Man, 1138 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 1: When you when you went out and got a tight in, 1139 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 1: all right, that can possibly block I'm serious? All right? 1140 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,320 Speaker 1: Well else matters? Well that right, there is the end 1141 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 1: of our show. Well, go play some journey behind this baby. 1142 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 1: You're on a journey, some journey, Kurt, thank you yeah, man, wait, 1143 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 1: do you do your thing today? Man? Yeah? Sometimes Shanna 1144 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 1: Shannon kind of reminded me of somebody else. Man. You know, 1145 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 1: he come when he won't. You know, I'm on Kyrie Irving. 1146 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,919 Speaker 1: Don't do that down there, Yeah he Kyrie Irving for they, Yeah, 1147 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,560 Speaker 1: for the Brooklyn man. Well yeah, the world is flat. 1148 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 1: Well like Kyrie, we're out of here until until next week. 1149 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 1: Thank you all for for joining us and h yeah man, 1150 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:53,000 Speaker 1: hanging with the boys. Well just yeah, alright, alright. 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