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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: How's everybody doing on this Wednesday? Chris brown Seed tasker

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Speaker 2: with you One Bill's Lives the show. Thanks for joining us,

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Speaker 2: making us a part of your afternoon as the deep

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Speaker 2: chill continues here in Western New York. How what's it

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Speaker 2: been almost three weeks without getting above freezing two weeks?

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Speaker 1: I think it was.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we are still in the deep free yes

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Speaker 2: here in Western New York. I guess it's supposed to

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Speaker 2: get up to forty by the weekend, which will be

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Speaker 2: a nice respite.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to know what my terror is?

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Speaker 2: What I am terrified of the number of land mines

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Speaker 2: I am going to uncover when the snow thaw happens.

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Speaker 2: Because my dog in the morning goes out back, and

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Speaker 2: the last several days, well, the last several days, we

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Speaker 2: haven't We haven't taken her for a walk either, because

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Speaker 2: she gets cold real fast, even if we put a

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Speaker 3: She is not a winter.

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Speaker 2: Dog at all, and so it becomes a backyard exercise

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Speaker 2: to go do your business. And when we have the

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Speaker 2: snow thaw, I don't even want to think about what

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Speaker 2: it's going to look like back there.

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Speaker 3: As far as pickup is concerned.

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Speaker 1: My guy's a French bulldog, and I tell you know,

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Speaker 1: I said, let's come on, go out. He knows. He knows.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's nine years old. He's done this before, right,

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Speaker 1: gris go out. He knows the words, the look he

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Speaker 1: gives me when I try to get him out of

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Speaker 1: you and want to go out. Yeah, you write a book.

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Speaker 2: I opened the sliding door on the back of the

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Speaker 2: house and my dog doesn't look at me like yours does.

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Speaker 2: But my dog looks outside, feels the cold air and

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Speaker 2: does this.

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Speaker 3: It just does a big huff like cheeze. I gotta

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Speaker 3: do this. I got take care of business in this weather.

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Speaker 1: I am.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am not looking forward to that when the

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Speaker 2: snow does melt.

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Speaker 3: But I guess I would take.

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Speaker 2: Warmer tempts in exchange for that, and I'll pick up

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Speaker 2: the pick up as I need to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's rough. I would say this too.

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Speaker 1: I for the most part, and I get it. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's bad weather. It's it's the dead of winter right now.

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Speaker 1: It's dark days of winter, hard weather, and we get

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Speaker 1: it here in western eye most of the time when

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Speaker 1: it's not like a year like this where it's so

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Speaker 1: brutally cold. You go out of you know, you go

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Speaker 1: out of your snow machine, you downhill, ski, across country, ski,

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Speaker 1: ice fish, you do. You know, you kind of get

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Speaker 1: out in it for do something. And I've always made

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Speaker 1: the argument the people like in Florida, Texas, the Deep South,

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Speaker 1: they get outside for They get outside in the summer

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Speaker 1: probably about as.

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Speaker 3: Much as we do in the winter, you know, which

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Speaker 3: is not much, which is not much.

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Speaker 1: You don't just go outside in it and hang you do,

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Speaker 1: I mean if you go out and golf even and

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Speaker 1: even golfing sometimes there are courses down there that shut

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Speaker 1: down in certain parts of the beach. Go to the beach.

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Speaker 1: Sure in the summer, you know, it's hot a lot,

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Speaker 1: so I'm I'm thinking it's kind of the reverse. You

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Speaker 1: kind of stay inside in this deep summer in the

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Speaker 1: humidity down in the South, and you kind of stay

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Speaker 1: inside in the winter up here. But you do find

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Speaker 1: reasons to go out in it. I mean there are

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Speaker 1: things like snow like I said, snowshoeing, snow machine.

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Speaker 2: We've done that.

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Speaker 1: We've done it and it's fun and you know, like

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Speaker 1: me and me and my guys go winter camping, right,

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Speaker 1: which we're a little around the bend in. But so

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Speaker 1: I'm just say it's six of one, a half dozen

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Speaker 1: of the other. It's just what you choose to be

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Speaker 1: a part of in the winner though, Yeah, a lot,

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Speaker 1: and that's why people go down there or on the winter.

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Speaker 2: I'll be getting out of this soon, so yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean we all take a minute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just like you just need a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a break and then you just kind of power through

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Speaker 2: the rest of it. Yeah, we are powering through our

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Speaker 2: way to free agency, which is less than a month

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Speaker 2: away now. Obviously the NFL combine will be on the

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Speaker 2: front burner next week, but free agency, the legal tampering

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Speaker 2: period begins March tenth. The market and the new league

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Speaker 2: year officially begins four o'clock March twelfth, and we'll be

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Speaker 2: discussing free agency with you as it pertains to the bills.

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Speaker 2: We did some of that yesterday. We'll do a little

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Speaker 2: bit more of it today but in a different way,

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Speaker 2: and we'll get to that in a little bit. We

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Speaker 2: should go around the NFL because there is league news

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Speaker 2: as far as the International Slate of Games is Concerned

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Speaker 2: around the NFL, presented by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. The NFL is going back to

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Speaker 2: Brazil in twenty twenty five. Last year, it was the

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Speaker 2: Packers and the Eagles in a Friday night game Week one,

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Speaker 2: the day after the season kickoff game. That is going

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Speaker 2: to happen again, and one of the designated teams will

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Speaker 2: be the Los Angeles Chargers. They have been designated as

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Speaker 2: the host team for sal Polo at Corinthians Arena Friday night,

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Speaker 2: Week one, twenty twenty five, which means the Bills aren't

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Speaker 2: going to San Salpolo. That's right, Chargers are not on

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Speaker 2: their schedule. As we told you last week or maybe

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Speaker 2: the week before when they announced the Ireland game with

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. There's a chance Buffalo could go to that

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Speaker 2: one because they are playing the Steelers on the road

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Speaker 2: next season and that's one of the Steelers' home games Ireland.

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Speaker 3: In Dublin.

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Speaker 1: I just say this, I've taken a vacation to Ireland.

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Speaker 1: I might try and beg and borrow my way onto

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Speaker 1: that trip just to go to Dublin. It's so great.

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Speaker 1: I spent eight days in Ireland I've never been went

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Speaker 1: to twenty two different pubs. Oh wow, every single one

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Speaker 1: of them was my favorite. It was so awesome. I lovedyer.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely loved it. So, yeah, that'll be that's a possibility.

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Speaker 1: The Bills could end up in an away game Instead

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Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh, you would be in Dublin.

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Speaker 3: So a little bit longer trip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not just down the it's not down th way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not even through way. What is it? What seventy five,

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Speaker 1: seventy nine, yeah, seventy nine, just down seventy nine little four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a possibility. I don't know. How do you

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Speaker 1: How do we feel about international games these days?

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Speaker 2: Well, the one to Brazil, at least as I understand it,

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Speaker 2: it's only a one hour time change from East Coast

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Speaker 3: I believe that's four hours.

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Speaker 1: It's chargers, it's only a ninety hour flight.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're going like three days of the lion

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Speaker 2: to the fattest part of the globe.

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Speaker 1: What uh. Yeah, it's only it's on the same time zone,

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Speaker 1: so that's kind of cool. Your body clock doesn't go crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know Aruba is a four hour

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Speaker 2: thousand miles to Brazil. So that's probably yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: for well, for La, that's that's a hall. I mean.

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Speaker 1: To Brazil. Yeah, but we're still though.

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Speaker 3: That's a hall four hour time.

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Speaker 1: It's got to go way east.

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Speaker 2: Now it's a night game, so that works for the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: So it's a night game on Atlantic time, So so

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Speaker 2: they'll probably I wonder if they'm trying to remember, did

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Speaker 2: they kick off at nine o'clock local time in sal

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Speaker 2: Polo eight o'clock Eastern time, prime time kickoff for Friday

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Speaker 2: night last year Packers Eagles. I may have to go

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Speaker 2: back and look at the kickoff.

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Speaker 1: Brazil's further east.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I believe they're Atlantic time.

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Speaker 1: Oh they're Atlantic time. Not believe they are not Eastern

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Speaker 1: They're Oh my gosh, I could have that central last year.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was Central time. Eight fifteen kicked off

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Speaker 1: last year. Wow, that's see. I didn't get that. I

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Speaker 3: I had a check.

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Speaker 2: I'll double check, but somebody told me that, and I'll

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Speaker 2: admit to never trying to corroborate it myself, but I

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Speaker 2: remember somebody saying that still.

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Speaker 1: Though the international games, I mean, I see it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I if it's me, wouldn't you want to That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: The problem is the length of travel because Bill's fans,

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Speaker 1: Charger fans, you name the team. Their fans are always

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Speaker 1: rooling to go, let's go see our guys at this stadium,

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Speaker 1: you know, a new stadium.

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Speaker 3: But if it's you know, yeah, there's four different times.

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Speaker 1: If it's two point one million dollars for your flight,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know you're not gonna do it, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just you want an easy flight. Let's you know,

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Speaker 1: let's go see him play. And like if the Bills

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Speaker 1: played an away game, like in Columbus at the Horseshoe,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, if say, for instance, Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: it over there or whatever. Uh, you know, Bills fans

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Speaker 1: see him playing in a new and different kind of stadium.

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Speaker 1: If it was in like, for instance, they had a

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Speaker 1: that you know, Bills fans would head down to that,

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Speaker 1: and that's my big that's my big idea is NFL city.

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Speaker 1: That's right, you should put you know, international games.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna I'm gonna get to that a little

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Speaker 2: bit more in just a second.

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Speaker 1: Here, you're gonna revisit me. There are four different idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are four different time zones in Brazil. The

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Speaker 2: western most time zone is equivalent to Eastern Standard Time.

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Speaker 2: Everything else is east of that.

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Speaker 3: They actually have two hours Furthest.

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Speaker 2: The Furthest land mass east of in the eastern part

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Speaker 2: of the country of Brazil is two hours before Eastern

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Speaker 2: Standard times.

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Speaker 1: It's blown my mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how far it juts out?

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Speaker 1: They're way east of us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not just south.

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Speaker 1: I did not realize that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's that's kind of amazing to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they are, yeah, South Paolo two hours ahead

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Speaker 1: So they come on so one Bill's Life comes on

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Speaker 1: at three, goes from three to five in South Polo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're drivetime there.

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Speaker 1: Wow, how many big time big time in South Pallo.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was wrong. It's actually two hours ahead.

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Speaker 2: Not one.

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Speaker 1: I am. That blows my mind. That really does. I

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Speaker 1: didn't realize that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was eight to fifteen Eastern time.

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Speaker 2: If that's when it kicked off, well, well I'll have

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Speaker 2: to check off check and see it off eight to

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Speaker 2: fifteen Eastern time. That means it was ten.

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Speaker 1: To ten fifteen PM in Brazil.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine they did that.

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Speaker 2: It had it had to have been early.

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Speaker 1: That's a crazy, that's crazy. Maybe didn't they have like this?

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Speaker 3: I sa a double check.

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Speaker 2: I remember was watching that game at night, but I'm

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Speaker 3: Well not on Friday?

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Speaker 3: The time of the game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it's ten to fifteen wow in Brazil.

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Speaker 1: That's Craig Cray.

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Speaker 2: Why would that is strange?

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Speaker 2: We're springing forward here, and we observe daylight saving time

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Speaker 2: And that would explain that the kickoff at nine seventeen,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's stop, let's stop talking about it.

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Speaker 3: There's your reason better start time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there you go though, there they yeah, And then

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Speaker 2: So to kind of encapsulate the entire international game schedule

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Speaker 1: And we don't know which week that is though yet, right, No, okay.

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Speaker 2: So Chargers Week one, Brazil, Jets and Browns each have

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Speaker 2: their London game at Wembley, Colts in Berlin, Dolphins in Madrid,

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Speaker 1: Oh, Miami's in Madrid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, usually the NFL does not schedule division games

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Speaker 2: overseas because clubs believe they're too important. So I don't

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And I think the Bills have the Browns

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Speaker 1: That's the possibility.

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Speaker 3: Then the Pittsburgh the Steeler, Yeah, the Steeler is away.

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Speaker 1: No, no, oh brown Oh there it is right there, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I really don't want to go back to Tottenham Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Oh really? Why?

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Speaker 3: That field surface is terrible and the.

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Speaker 1: Broad right that's wherebody got nick desk, where Malone broke

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Speaker 2: Day kwon towards uh Peck. Not that has anything to

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Speaker 3: And I went down and checked it out and it

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Speaker 2: There was no give.

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Speaker 3: It looked more like the old school AstroTurf than it did.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because other soccer teams aren't letting you play

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Speaker 2: on their grass, right, I'm not gonna let the barbaric

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Speaker 1: Tear up They would they tear it up. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That that's the stadium where the hydraulic lift comes in

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it. I don't like that surface.

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Speaker 2: It's not good for a billion dollar stadium that made itself.

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Speaker 2: NFL ready playing surface is not up to snuff. Just

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Speaker 2: to ask any player who's been on it, they did

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Speaker 2: not like it at all.

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Speaker 3: They do go back.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping it's not there, but we'll see. There's a

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Speaker 2: two and seven chance that the Bills have a game

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Speaker 2: over there. Here's my thing, Well, not two and seven.

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Speaker 2: There's seven games there are. There's twenty semi opponents.

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Speaker 1: Now, we said sal Paolo, Madrid, Dublin, Dublin, Berlin, Berlin,

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Speaker 1: and then four in London. No, there's three in London.

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Speaker 1: Three games in London, three in London.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's your international docket right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about it.

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Speaker 2: the renovations are done. On as Texas Stadium.

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Speaker 1: But okay, I'm fine with that. Mexico City's probably travel wise,

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Speaker 3: It's like playing in Denver though it's at elevation.

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Speaker 1: Well, so what that's I know, I'm just saying, don't Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: They want to get to sixteen games overseas. They're at

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Speaker 2: seven now, not this year, but evange they want to

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Speaker 1: Okay, they can't all be in London, no, But soal

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Speaker 3: Well, they got Australia on the dock, had already for

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Speaker 1: Dude, you can't go further than Australia Antarctica. I don't

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Speaker 2: It's probably not because you can just go do south

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's Yeah, yeah, that's pretty far.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay. Australia is a man. That's a that is

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Speaker 1: a big ask. Yeah, that is a big ask. That's

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Speaker 1: a sacrifice. I would think big time, and I think

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Speaker 1: you've got to pick a week, pick your two teams

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Speaker 1: that are going to Australia, and then formula rams were

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my guess, this is just my guess. My guess

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Speaker 2: So play Thursday night, get a mini buy going into

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Speaker 2: out of it. Yeah, because you're gonna lose a day

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Speaker 2: coming back.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen Yeah, that'll be three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Or gain a day coming back. You lose a day

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a That is a big ass and

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Speaker 1: you know, I get it though, the league wants to

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Speaker 1: expand and you, okay, globilize, that's fine. I'm the eighteen

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Speaker 1: game schedules around the corner. That's gonna happen. The question

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Speaker 2: But.

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Speaker 1: I'm it's gonna happen. It makes too much sense.

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Speaker 2: Fore gun conclusion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you give them an extra buy and it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be about It's like we said, there's three things

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get. One an extra bye week. Two would

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Speaker 1: be extra roster spots. You'll get two or three more

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see what happens. It's a foregun conclusion, though

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Speaker 2: to me, it's a formality absolutely. ESPN's Dan Grossiano is

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Speaker 2: reporting it's likely the Chargers release pass rusher Joey Bosa

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Speaker 2: before he's due a twelve point three to six million

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Speaker 2: dollars roster bonus in March. With Khalil Mack also set

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Speaker 2: some interesting choices to be made by LA regarding their

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Speaker 2: edge rushing position. Chargers would save more than twenty five

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Speaker 3: Would you be interested in Joey Bosa.

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Speaker 2: Steve as a pass rushing option for the Bills if

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I am.

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Speaker 1: I don't think not for the money he will command

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Speaker 1: I'm I don't think I am. I don't think I'm

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Speaker 2: You just finished doing that. You can't do that again.

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Speaker 1: And he's a great player, But I'm I'm not interested

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Speaker 2: Speaking of von Miller. NFL dot Com put together a

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Speaker 2: list of potential salary cap casualties this offseason to help

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Speaker 2: clubs get under the salary cap by the start of

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Speaker 2: the new league year on March twelfth. On that list

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Speaker 2: for the Bills was not a surprise, it was von Miller.

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Speaker 3: Here was their assessment.

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Speaker 2: With just fourteen sacks and three seasons with the Bills,

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Speaker 2: while playing one third of the defensive snaps this past season,

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Speaker 2: and set to turn thirty six years old on March

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Speaker 2: twenty sixth, von Miller's playtime and production doesn't justify as

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Speaker 2: twenty three point eight million dollar cap number next season,

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Speaker 3: Buffalo would eat.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen point four million in dead money if they cut

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Speaker 2: him before June first, so designating him as a post

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Speaker 2: June first cut is likely to be the way they go,

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Speaker 2: with just six point four in dead money and saving

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Speaker 2: They go on to say either way, the Bills are

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Speaker 2: currently projected to be seventeen million over the cap, third

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Speaker 2: worst in the league, so they need to pinch pennies

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it would surprise anyone. Guy's

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Speaker 2: turning thirty six. He's a part time player as it is,

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Speaker 2: so and he's a huge cap savings and they need

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Speaker 2: to save on the cap if they're going to do

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Speaker 2: anything in the offset.

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Speaker 1: Oh this, yeah, and this will not be a surprise

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Speaker 1: to Vaughan. It's a business transit, yeah, and that's what

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Speaker 1: it is. Ever you can see it coming. It's in

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Speaker 1: in fact, this is low hanging fruit. So really, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it really is at this point, and Vaughan knows it.

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Speaker 1: And he's been an asset to the team and you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously unfortunate injury that stole him from the you know,

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Speaker 1: from the lineup for too long. And it was in Tottendham,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: He got heard in Detroit. Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, that's right. So it's just while he

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Speaker 1: was here and healthy early on, it was everything we

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Speaker 1: thought it was going to be. Injuries derailed it and

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Speaker 1: now you know, they got to move on. He did.

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Speaker 1: He did his part in this in a couple of ways. One,

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Speaker 1: when he was healthy, he played well. Two, when he

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Speaker 1: was coming back was going to get a huge hat cap,

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Speaker 1: and he took a haircut and took less money to

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Speaker 1: remain on the club. So he did his part. And

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Speaker 1: you can say it didn't go well for either side,

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Speaker 1: but both sides tried to make it work. And so

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Speaker 1: you got to tip your hat to Vaughn for that

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Speaker 1: and the club. So yeah, but now the writing's on

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Speaker 1: the wall has probably come to an end. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think either side has hard feelings about how it went.

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Speaker 2: They tried to make it work.

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Speaker 1: They tried to make both sides try to make it work.

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Speaker 2: This just in from ESPN's Dan Graziano. The NFL today

474
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Speaker 2: informed teams that the twenty twenty five per team salary

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Speaker 2: cap will fall in the range of two seventy seven

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Speaker 2: and a half million to two hundred eighty one and

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Speaker 2: a half million, way.

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Speaker 1: Up from two hundred and eighty one.

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Speaker 2: It could be two seventy seven and a half to

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Speaker 2: eighty one and a half way up from last year's

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Speaker 2: two fifty five point four. That means the cap is

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Speaker 2: going to go up about fifty five million over the last.

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Speaker 3: Two years alone.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the this is the response to the

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Speaker 2: big media deals that went through officially last year. So

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Speaker 2: and I think we're finally completely back from the COVID

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Speaker 2: year when the cap went backwards and shrunk.

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Speaker 1: Right. They also now, and I'll say this too, the

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Speaker 1: cap didn't It did shrink, but they it didn't shrink

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Speaker 1: as much as it was going to. During the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty COVID year, they borrowed for the cap against future

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Speaker 1: earnings to lessen the blow for the players, and so

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Speaker 1: then they were going to pay it back over the

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Speaker 1: next year or two after that, and so they did.

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Speaker 1: And now that's kind of a washed away. Yeah, three

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Speaker 1: years later, this is four years later. Good news for

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Speaker 1: the Bills.

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Speaker 2: The cap was not projected to be that high by

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Speaker 2: most people were expecting maybe two sixty five, you know,

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Speaker 2: to sixty seven. And if it's to seventy seven, the

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Speaker 2: Bills will only be a couple of million over with

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Speaker 2: their top fifty one salaries, not seventeen million over, right,

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Speaker 2: because if that was based on a projected number, if

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be two seventy seven, even at the low end,

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Speaker 2: they're going to.

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Speaker 3: Be just slightly over the cap.

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Speaker 2: Now, so that's certainly good news for Brandon Bean and

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Speaker 2: a lot of other teams that have to get out

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Speaker 2: of cap jail here before March twelfth to a big

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Speaker 2: jump to seventy seven. I mean it's twenty two million

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Speaker 2: dollar jump in one year. It's it usually used to

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Speaker 2: be ten to twelve a year. Now it's twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Well, well bigger. It gets the more money a smaller percentages,

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Speaker 1: you know. So even if a keeps going up ten percent,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna it's gonna double in. It's gonna double in

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Speaker 1: seven years, six or seven years the cap so at

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Speaker 1: that kind kind of compound interest rate, you're gonna you're

518
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Speaker 1: gonna get big numbers, big really fast. And it changes

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Speaker 1: the landscape in a lot of ways that are unforeseen.

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Speaker 1: You get guys like Andrew Luck, some of these guys,

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Speaker 1: and even you know, Tommy Doyle. You get these guys

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Speaker 1: that sign and play for a couple of years. It's

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Speaker 1: a life changer if they if they sign another contract,

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Speaker 1: sign a one year deal, signing it's a life changer

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Speaker 1: and they can walk away, you know. And and also

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Speaker 1: a higher percentage of your roster is also making life

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Speaker 1: changing money. So it's gonna change the landscape of the league.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna change the landscape of the mindset of the players.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna change the landscape of the contract structures. All

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Speaker 1: of that's gonna happen over the course. I think as

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Speaker 1: you know, more and more of the roster is getting

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Speaker 1: is getting rich. They're not just getting a good start

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Speaker 1: to the rest of their life like it was back

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Speaker 1: in the day. They're getting they're changing their lives. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and there's some of them are smart enough or of

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Speaker 1: inclined to.

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Speaker 3: Is just get out, cut and run.

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Speaker 1: Thanks appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers re signed backup quarterback Andy Dalton to a

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Speaker 2: two year contract, so he'll be back with the Panthers

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Speaker 2: for the next couple of years. Backing up price Young,

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Speaker 2: NFL Networks Cameron Wolf is reporting that the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 2: will not use a franchise tag on free agent safety

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Speaker 2: Jevon Holland to retain him. Dolphins are projected five million

545
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Speaker 2: over the cap. That might change with this new projection,

546
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Speaker 2: and they've got a whopping twenty six unrestricted free agents.

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Speaker 2: They've got a lot of work ahead of them as

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Speaker 2: far as their roster is concerned. Cleveland Brown's terminated the

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Speaker 2: contract of running back Nahaim Hines, who did not play

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Speaker 2: for a second straight year. After suffering an ACL tear

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Speaker 2: during a personal watercraft accident in July twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Really a terrible story.

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Speaker 2: He's sitting there idling refilling the gas tank on his

554
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Speaker 2: jet ski and some other guy runs headlong into him

555
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: and tears the ACL on his knee. He has not

556
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Speaker 2: played football since. The Bills released him non football injury

557
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: list and.

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Speaker 3: Cleveland had to do the same.

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Speaker 2: He did come back and return to practice off IR

560
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Speaker 2: for them in the middle of the season, but was

561
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Speaker 2: just not good enough to be added to the active roster,

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Speaker 2: so he went on season ending IR and the season

563
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Speaker 2: told on him as well. So you just feel really

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Speaker 2: bad for him. A guy that's going to be remembered,

565
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Speaker 2: at least here in Buffalo for being the guy with

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Speaker 2: the two kickoff returns for touchdowns against the Patriots the

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Speaker 2: week after the Damor Hamlin incident, when everybody's heart was

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Speaker 2: in their throat. People were holding up heart signs for

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Speaker 2: Damar here at the first home game after it happened.

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Speaker 2: It really feel bad for Naim, heindes, Yeah, unfortunate accident.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is one of the that's one of the

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Speaker 1: rough occurrences that we you know, we've been been able

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Speaker 1: to see in this little era here post COVID and

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, that was a rough What a tough way

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Speaker 1: to end the career. Well, so at least lose your

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Speaker 1: chance at one of the There's nothing that says he

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Speaker 1: can't sign with somebody else, but.

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Speaker 3: Wow, just a tough break for sure.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Topic of discussion for you today, what position group should

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Speaker 2: the Bills start with in free agency? You know, Brandon

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Speaker 2: Bean said they're not going to be major players in

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Speaker 2: the free agent market, but I think we're used to

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Speaker 2: seeing the Bills active in the free agent market Tier two,

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Speaker 2: tier three free agents that are a little bit more affordable,

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Speaker 2: and he tries to fill as many positional holes as

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Speaker 2: he can in free agency, so he's not forced to

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Speaker 2: go to those positions in the draft.

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Speaker 3: He can just pick best on board.

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Speaker 2: So you let u us know what position group should

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Speaker 2: the Bills start with in free agency? Ato three oh

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five

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Speaker 2: fifty the numbers to get on board. And we do

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Speaker 2: have open lines for you there now. Don't have time

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Speaker 2: to give us a call, you can hit us up

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Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet at One Bill's Live. Steve and

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Speaker 2: I got to take a break here, but we're back

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Speaker 2: with your phone calls as we're wide open for those

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the show. Here on one Bills Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Colid of Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. What

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Speaker 2: position group should the Bills start with in free agency?

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Speaker 2: You let us know at AIGHTO three oh five fifty

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Speaker 2: one eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty open lines

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Speaker 2: for you there, or you can hit us up on

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Speaker 2: the tweet sheet at one Bill's Live. Bills are going

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Speaker 2: to have some holes with upwards of twelve to fifteen

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Speaker 2: unrestricted free agents, so you let us know where you

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Speaker 2: think they should start on the free agent market. Let's

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Speaker 2: go to the phones, and leading us off today is

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Speaker 2: Michael and Williamsville. What do you got for his Michael, Hi, guys.

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Speaker 5: I have a couple of questions. Number one, what do

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Speaker 5: you think Sweat is going to draw on the free

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Speaker 5: agent market? Number two, Khalil Mack, I'd like to see

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Speaker 5: both of them in Buffalo. Number three, Von Miller wants

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Speaker 5: to stay in Buffalo, and I think he's willing to

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Speaker 5: take another another pay cut to do it because he's

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Speaker 5: made plenty of money. He would love to win a

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl with Buffalo, and we're not there far away.

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Speaker 5: And then the other thing is the two draft picks

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Speaker 5: that I would like to see is Grant. I think

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Speaker 5: it's Grant from Michigan in the first round, and then

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Speaker 5: in the second round the safety Notre Dams. So I'll

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Speaker 5: hang up and listen to what your answers are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing, Mike first and foremost. Josh Sweat. Yeah,

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00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: he's probably one of the more attractive free agent pass rushers,

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Speaker 2: primarily because he's young. He's still young, and he was

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Speaker 2: productive last year. Eight sacks on that defensive line for Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: He was a starter.

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Speaker 2: You're wondering why he didn't have more production, knowing Jalen

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Speaker 2: Carter was double almost the entire game. He had a

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Speaker 2: lot of one on one matchups, and he would disappear

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Speaker 2: in some games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He showed up in the playoffs and

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and all that, but he was. He

635
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Speaker 1: disappeared for stretches during the regular season. He was really

636
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Speaker 1: criticized for that. And then when you know, he knew

637
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Speaker 1: he's going to be in the all that stuff was

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Speaker 1: going on, he turned it on. I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm not really a Josh Sweat fan right now. I

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Speaker 1: like him. I mean, he's a good player and all that,

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Speaker 1: but I think his motivation was dollar signs, and once

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Speaker 1: he signs that contract, I think he's the kind of

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Speaker 1: guy that might take it out of gear.

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Speaker 2: Gonna turn twenty eight this season, and I would say

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Speaker 2: he played last year on a one year, ten million

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Speaker 2: dollar deal, So the Eagles got him for his song.

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Speaker 2: I would say, you're gonna have to come close to

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Speaker 2: doubling that on the free agent market if you want

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Speaker 2: to land him. He's gonna get somewhere between eighteen and

650
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Speaker 2: twenty million a year, and the Bills cannot afford that.

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Speaker 2: So I don't see them taking a swing on Josh Sweat.

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Speaker 2: That's where the money is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And ask for Kenneth Grant, the defensive tackle out

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Speaker 1: of Michigan. He's a sixty three, three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: nine pounds, runs just under a five flat forty. He's

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Speaker 1: been mocked to the Bills a ton. He's not the top,

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Speaker 1: you know, defensive tackle, but he's in a spot where

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Speaker 1: you know the Bills would have a shot at him,

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Speaker 1: you know. So that's that's where you're at.

660
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you'd like to get a I think

661
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: you need a guy that is a space heater, a

662
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: run stuffer that offers you a little pocket push, you know,

663
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: to get in the lap of a quarterback every so often. Yeah,

664
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: but you need a guy that can take on double teams.

665
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: He's and still make plays on the thing I'm looking at.

666
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: He's the sixth guy of rank. He's ranked sixth overall

667
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: in this draft at that position, defensive tackle. You've got

668
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: a kid from Old miss who's a little higher Georgia. Yeah.

669
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: Uh, James Pierce from Texas and his team. This guy's teammate, uh,

670
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: Kenneth Grant's teammate, Mason Grahant.

671
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: Ye, he's gonna go first.

672
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 3: He'll be a top ten pick.

673
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: He's the best to get tea in the class.

674
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 6: Right.

675
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: So, and then there's Abdul Carter, who's an edge guy

676
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: from Penn State who's you know, who's obviously up there

677
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: as well, but he's he's a defensive end, not a

678
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. And so's James Pierce from Texas.

679
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: Safety in the second round. I don't know if it's

680
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: gonna happen again. It happened last year. Maybe the board

681
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: falls that way and they want to get some safety help.

682
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: Maybe tomorrow Hamlin's not back and you have holes you

683
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: got to fill. So I wouldn't rule it out. But

684
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: they just did that last year. That doesn't mean they

685
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it again. But I think it's a

686
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: it's I think safety help is probably a little bit

687
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: later in the draft unless there's some blue chip prospect

688
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: that slides to them. Right, They've got bigger fish to fry.

689
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: In my estimation on the defensive.

690
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: Front, I would anticipate or I would think that they

691
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: would go freate a safety in free agency, not the draft.

692
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: I think they would bring some guys in.

693
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: There's usually a bounty of them on the free agent market, right. Heck,

694
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: Javon Holland isn't even going to be franchised now. I

695
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to be able.

696
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: To afford Jeavon Holland, right, Javon Holland is looking at

697
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of the market on the top of the market.

698
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: But I don't. But there's a ton of safeties out

699
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: there that are you know, that are along the lines

700
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: of Micah Hyde, Jordan Pour your kind of range where

701
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: if you see him and you like them and you

702
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: get them together or whatever. It could make a difference.

703
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: The Bills have done it in the past. Don't know

704
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: if they're inclined to do that in the future, but

705
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: I think that position is I think it's better to

706
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: get a guy who can come in and acclimate quicker

707
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: and a veteran can And so that's why I think

708
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: they would go that direction at that position, because they're

709
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: you're not going to break them. You're not going to

710
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: have to pay thirty million bucks for a number one

711
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: safety like you would a wide receiver.

712
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. I mean you probably

713
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: can get a starting caliber safety for about eight or

714
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: nine million, you know, near the top of the market,

715
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: but not the tip top. Depends on where you want

716
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: to spend your money here. The Bills are not going

717
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 2: to have a ton of it to spend in free agency.

718
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: They're going to have to be very discerning with their dollars.

719
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: Even with the news crossing today that the cap is

720
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 2: going to be between two seventy seven and a half

721
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: and to eighty one and a half.

722
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: Let's go back to the phones and to Butcher on

723
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: the East side.

724
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 7: What we got for his Butcher, First of all, gentlemen,

725
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 7: thanks so much for taking my call. I love MSG,

726
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 7: I love WJ and all the fans around the world.

727
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 7: I love you. But before I get started, man, I

728
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 7: was always raised to pay homas. I gotta pay hamas

729
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 7: right fast. And I want to just say hello, say

730
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 7: thank you so much to Western Automotive Group for doing

731
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 7: something they didn't really have to do, but they did

732
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 7: with Roderick Morrow. I really appreciate that. And my father

733
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 7: Lowel and his grave. I didn't say thank you, so

734
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 7: I want to say thank you to you for doing

735
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 7: something that you really didn't have to do, and thank

736
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 7: you so much. Let me get right to it. Gentlemen,

737
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 7: yesterday you had a nice gentleman on your first call.

738
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 7: He was one of your guest speakers. His name was

739
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 7: Doug Bower, and I really concur with what he was

740
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 7: speaking about our defensive line. You guys were speaking about

741
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 7: the Philadelphia Eagles deepens the line, and he said they

742
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 7: run stuffed that we run stunts. He also said brown

743
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 7: and you piggyback off, saying well, if you got a

744
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 7: two hundred andant cornerback in the box and they sitting

745
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 7: in a three hundred lineman, and what is this supposed

746
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 7: to do. This is where the difference is of what

747
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 7: we have to do going forward. And I believe I

748
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 7: believe Sean McDermott, based off hiring that defensive ex agency coordinator,

749
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 7: is that he's surrendering what he wants to do and

750
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 7: letting Bobby and this guy run a regular reel four

751
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 7: or three that when moving forward, when we have like uh,

752
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 7: like my man Chris Carpasco said about which I believe

753
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 7: is that you got Solomon there, you got a j Apperaneza,

754
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 7: you got Russo, you got uh, you got my guy

755
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 7: Vaughn who restarted this contract back. Our jobs is not

756
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 7: about defense then, it's about defensive tackles. Me personally, I

757
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 7: really believe you get a guy like the like you

758
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 7: guys are talking on the dry just go get the

759
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 7: guy from Michigan plugging, go go go in the free agency,

760
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 7: go get Simmons, another a de tackle. And you know what,

761
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 7: if we can afford to eat uh trade my man

762
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 7: dig salary last year thirty million, at least we could

763
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 7: get one defensive tackle in the middle. I would use

764
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 7: Ed Oliver's trade bait like he just like Doug said,

765
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 7: he's two hundred ninety two pounds. He's not what we

766
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 7: he doesn't fit what we're trying to do. Even though

767
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 7: even though we got orange juice out of an orange

768
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 7: that we bought, we can't keep using his skin and

769
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 7: to put the put the pulpit of trying to force it.

770
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 7: This is, this is needed to move on, so not

771
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 7: staying that, that's cool. I'm gonna move on. I appreciate

772
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 7: you taking my call. Is that after that moving forward?

773
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 7: Is we already have what we need on our offense,

774
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 7: with exception of maybe maybe of maybe getting another wide receiver.

775
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 7: After that, let's leave it alone defensive line. Let's get

776
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 7: the defensive line again. A safety wise and I'm done.

777
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 7: You've got cam Lewis that could be played free safety.

778
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 7: You could put Ingram at corner or moving a free safety.

779
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 7: We really don't have to spend nine to ten million

780
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 7: dollars out of safety. I love you guys, thanks so

781
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 7: much taking my call. You my brother's my life, and

782
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 7: thank I love the staff and take care of yourself.

783
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 7: Thank you so much.

784
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: Thanks. Thank Yeah.

785
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: I mean you don't want to break the bank out

786
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: of safety. I get that.

787
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: If you feel you just need depth there and it's

788
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: not necessary to you know, go full bore on a

789
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: starting caliber talent. Well then yeah, and look, I think

790
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: with Rasul Douglas at age thirty one in this defense

791
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: clearly indicating that they're going to play a lot more

792
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: man defense, I think you need guy with the athletic

793
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: skill set to play man coverage. You know, off coverage,

794
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: you got to play everything. And I don't know the

795
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: Douglas can.

796
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: Do that at age thirty one, particularly.

797
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: All the man coverage. So we'll have to see what

798
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: comes of it. But yes, I think defensive tackle, I

799
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: think you got to get one free agency and maybe

800
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 2: even draft two because Jordan Phillips a free agent, Austin

801
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: Johnson's a free agent, Quentin Jefferson's a free agent, and

802
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: Daikwon Jones could be a cap casualty. We don't know.

803
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: I mean he's thirty four years old, So that's four guys.

804
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

805
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: I mean you basically have had Oliver and Dwayne Carter

806
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: and nobody else at defensive tackle besides some reserve future

807
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: free agents like a Zion log I mean that's all

808
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: you got.

809
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: So you got to refortify those ranks.

810
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got to fill your roster out somehow,

811
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: some way, and it will come down to how willing

812
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: they are to spend money in what they have to

813
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: spend on free agents. The draft is going to be huge, though,

814
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: no question about it. I mean, let's not count out

815
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: the fact that they could trade up or trade back

816
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: like they do a lot. They probably one of our

817
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: topics coming up to the draft is going to be

818
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: how likely is it do they trade up or trade down?

819
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: I doubt they'll pick thirtieth. We'll see.

820
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: They didn't last year when they were twenty eighth.

821
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 2: They didn't stay there and pick They moved back twice,

822
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: moved out of the round completely. Don't and they've they've

823
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: moved up before as well. Got to take a break here,

824
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: But more of your phone calls when we come back.

825
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: We'll lead off with Tom on the west side when

826
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: we returned. But eight O three five fifty is the

827
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: number to get on board, got open lines for you?

828
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: What position group should the Bills start with in free agency?

829
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: Your calls next year on one Bill's life stay with us?

830
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: What position group should the Bills start with in free agency?

831
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: At oh three five fifty one eight eight eight five

832
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty the numbers to join us. Wide

833
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 2: open for your phone calls for the rest of the show,

834
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: so feel free to chime in at your leisure to

835
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: Tom on the West Side.

836
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 4: What's up town, Good afternoon, gentlemen. I would start with

837
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 4: the defensive back slash safeties because we're we are week

838
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 4: back there now, Eli. I don't want to FaZe the

839
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 4: bus because we've never really played man defense, So if

840
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 4: they're going to go to man this year, that might

841
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: be his kind of defense. But he hasn't fit in

842
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 4: here in Buffalo, so we got to get some safeties

843
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: and cornerbacks because we're been back there. We always seem

844
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 4: to do well on the defensive line no matter what.

845
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 4: And as far as Vin, I would still like to

846
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 4: see him take a pay cut, And if you give

847
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 4: him a pay cut this year, maybe guarantee him a

848
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 4: spot in the front office when he retires, because right

849
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 4: now we have the end edge on him being a

850
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: member of the Bills forever.

851
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: Talk about it, yeah, I mean, I don't know.

852
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: To me, it's a pretty easy business decision. If you

853
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: designate him with June first cap cut, you save seventeen

854
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: point four. Even if you cut him before June first,

855
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: it's an eight and a half savings they got to

856
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: save on the cap for what he gives you. He

857
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: plays one third of the snaps. It's got five sacks

858
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: this year. I know his pressure rate was high. He

859
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: turns thirty six next month. I thought it was a

860
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: great acquisition when they made. It just didn't work because

861
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: he tore his ACL twelve games into his first year

862
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: here and he was never the same after. I think

863
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: we can all agree on that. So I think they

864
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: have to get younger and more athletic at that position

865
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: and more productive. And when you have players like Miles

866
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 2: Garrett asking for trades, yeah, to at least explore that,

867
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: because that's a gigantic upgrade at the position, and when

868
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: you're as closed as the Bills are, an upgrade of

869
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: that magnitude can push you over the top.

870
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: So it has to be explored at the very least.

871
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: And it's a pretty good draft for edge rush talent too,

872
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: So I think the Bills have to get younger and

873
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: more athletic on defense. They need to add speed to

874
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: that side of the ball as well, at the front

875
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: and the back. So I'm inclined to move on. I

876
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: know there's others that feel differently. I get it, but

877
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's a business and

878
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: he represents an enormous business savings on the cap.

879
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: Well, there's nothing that says you can't do both either.

880
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 2: That's true.

881
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: One and then sign him back. But also, in my estimation,

882
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: certainly the money is the issue, but also who you

883
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: gonna replace him with? Are you gonna get somebody better

884
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: than Vaughn If he's playing a third of the snap

885
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: and he has a high pressure rate when he does play,

886
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: are you going to get that out of a Javon

887
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: Solomon or Eleonku or somebody like you know, somebody who

888
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: you know is easy, easy to plug in. I don't

889
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: know you're trying to get. You're trying to fit the

890
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: most best players on your roster and put together a

891
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: team that competes with itself and gets these guys motivated

892
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: to compete, to get on the field, to contribute, to

893
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: get another contract, to get you know, more notoriety, the

894
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: whole thing you bring in competition for these guys. And

895
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: so that's the idea. I'm I'm okay with doing either

896
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: one with Vaughan as long as you get better doing it.

897
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: That's the That's the issue.

898
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: That's where my issue is because in last year's playoffs

899
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: it was evident to me anyway that it's.

900
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: Not good enough.

901
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: They can't get. They cannot get at any point in

902
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: that season, are you know? And if you're gonna blame

903
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: so it's not good enough, it has to get better. Yeah.

904
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: So if but if that's the case, why aren't you

905
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: why aren't we talking about getting rid of a j

906
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: Rousseau and you know, Javon Solomon and all of them,

907
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: because none of them are good enough.

908
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 3: But there's they don't cost.

909
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: That's well, there you go, and you're right, of course,

910
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: but that's you know, it has not been good enough.

911
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: They have not been dynamic enough. They were for a

912
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: hot minute when Vaughn was healthy. He's not and he

913
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: hasn't been that way. And those guys just don't fall ontoes.

914
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: That's why everybody and everybody knows a guy like Garrett

915
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: Crosby Hendrickson, these other pass rushers are at Khalil Mack

916
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: in his day. Man, they're game wreckers. So the Bills

917
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: need one of those guys, and I think pretty badly.

918
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: Choose your priority if you want, you can need to

919
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: say safety, your corner or whatever. But sooner or later

920
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: they got to get a guy that can get after

921
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: it up front, and they hadn't gotten one yet.

922
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 2: You know, Doug Farrar, who was on yesterday from Athlon Sports,

923
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: had an interesting take that I tend to lean into,

924
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: and that's that you should invest more at your defensive

925
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: tackle position because the shortest distance between two points is

926
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: a straight line, and the defensive tackles are closer to

927
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: the quarterback than the ends. And if you can get

928
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 2: you know, a space eater and another penetrator at the

929
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: defensive tackle position, and with the depth of this draft class,

930
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: that's not unreasonable. And you get a veteran in free agency,

931
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: you can do a lot of damage in refortifying that

932
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: position and making your front for a much more formidable

933
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: pass rush unit. Like a guy I like in free

934
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: agency at the defensive tackle position as a space eater

935
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: is Green Bay's TJ.

936
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 3: Slayton. He's a huge man.

937
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: He's six four three thirty solid run stuffer, and I

938
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: think you can get him for about five to six

939
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: million a year help you on first and second down.

940
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: They don't have that guy. Daikwon Jones used to be

941
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: that guy.

942
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 2: But I think we can all agree that his level

943
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: of play was not nearly as consistent as it been

944
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: as it had been.

945
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 3: In previous years. And he's thirty four.

946
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I love Dai Kwon. He was a serviceable

947
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: veteran here for a number of years, but that this

948
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: is an example of why they have to get younger

949
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 2: and more athletic up front.

950
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: No question, Dayque was at times their best defensive tackle

951
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: and a difference maker when he had when he left

952
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: because of an injury with his peck last year, two

953
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: years ago. Last year, you could man that it was

954
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: precipitous what happened to that defense. So yeah, I'm with

955
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: Brownie on this. I just think he got to get

956
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: more dynamic and athletic and disruptive upfront. And to do that,

957
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: I think he got to get players. And you're gonna

958
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: have to find a way to make it work financially

959
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: if you want to do that. This last year, the

960
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: Bills got it done without doing that and without having

961
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: that as part of their deal, because they were forcing turnovers,

962
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: and that's you know, that's hard to depend on forced turnovers.

963
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that. The Bills didn't know that

964
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: going and they thought they would, but you know, you.

965
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: Need something else in your arsenal to go along with that.

966
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they and they didn't have to speak of they

967
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: didn't have it much of anything else other than their ability.

968
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 2: They were top half of the league and stopping the run.

969
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 2: I think they were thirteenth or fourteenth by the time

970
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: the season was over. Not stellar, but serviceable, you know,

971
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: and takeaways that was it.

972
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were middle of the.

973
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: Pack in sacks, but I think thirty nine at the

974
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: end of the regular season. I think that was eighteenth

975
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: in the league. So their upgrades are needed on the

976
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: front end and the back end. So you tell us, though,

977
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: which position group should the Bill start with in free agency?

978
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: Wide open for your phone calls in hour number two.

979
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: We take a break here, but we are back to

980
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: the phones when we return on One Bill's Live presented

981
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982
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 8: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

983
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 3: This this One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

984
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: Our number two here on Wednesday, Chris Brown Steve tasked

985
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: me with you and talking Bills free agency. In which

986
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 2: position group you think the Bills should start with in

987
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: their free agent pursuit? Eighth three five point fifty one

988
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: eight eight eight, five fifty two, five fifty the numbers

989
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: to jump on board. Do you have a position that

990
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: you would like to see them addressed first and foremost

991
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: here once we get to.

992
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: Mind, Yeah, I'm I'm all about safety, you are, yeah, Yeah,

993
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: I'm those guys make a difference back there. I think

994
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: free agency you're gonna get unless you make a trade

995
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: for a guy, which is not free agency. It's different.

996
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: No question, you want to get better up front, but

997
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: in the secondary, I think they can. I think they

998
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: need to be faster and more athletic back there, and

999
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: and they it's it's it's unbelievable to think about how

1000
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: many guys they're turning over on the defensive side of

1001
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: the ball. At least it looks like they will.

1002
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 3: They signed last year, there's gonna be more this year.

1003
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: There's gonna be more this year. Were everybody was wringing

1004
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: their hands last year, they said the Bills are gonna

1005
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose the division. They're gonna stink, They're not

1006
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: gonna be competitive. They got too many defensive problems, and

1007
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: their their wide receiver room and their pass catchers are

1008
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: only one guy's caught a pass from them, and as

1009
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir. Nobody else has even caught a ball from Josh.

1010
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: And the defense has got a holy you know, totally revamped.

1011
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: So they're they're gonna they're gonna stink. Well, they didn't,

1012
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: and but now they've got even more turnover on the

1013
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball than they did last year.

1014
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: And at the front and the back, the linebackers are

1015
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: probably gonna be intact front to back. They're gonna change

1016
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: front and back that and I think, to me, it's

1017
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: gonna start at the front because you've got to get

1018
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: guys with traits up front, and that means drafting them.

1019
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why you might be safety. I'm defensive

1020
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: tackle because to me, they've just been holding that part

1021
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 2: of their defensive line together with spare parts. I mean,

1022
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: you look at who was starting the last several years.

1023
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: Daikwan Jones, who was a free agent pick up at

1024
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: age thirty one, you know, spend three seasons here and

1025
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 2: was pretty good for a stretch.

1026
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 3: And then Jordan Phillips has made three separate stints with

1027
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: the Bills.

1028
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: The last place he was when they signed him, no

1029
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: knock on Jordan, was the Dallas practice squad and they

1030
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: picked up Quinton Jefferson off the Cleveland practice squad, which

1031
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: they did mid season.

1032
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 3: I mean, if that doesn't indicate how.

1033
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: Desperate they were to get some fortification on the defensive

1034
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: interior by getting other people's, for lack of a better term,

1035
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 2: practice squad players, I don't know what is they have

1036
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: to get significantly better there, And to me, that's where

1037
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: I look first.

1038
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 3: And I already mentioned I like TJ.

1039
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: Slayton a lot as a space eater, six four, three

1040
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty pounds, twenty seven years old, solid run

1041
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: stuff or I think they could probably get him for

1042
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 2: five or six million a year. He was really good

1043
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: in that Green Bay run front, really good. And that's

1044
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: a guy you put out there on rundowns and goal

1045
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 2: line field goal block, like the guy makes a difference.

1046
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 3: Has really turned into an young player.

1047
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: For a former fifth round pick out of Florida, you

1048
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 2: know you you could argue, yeah, let's play top dollar

1049
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: for Milton Williams, you know, out of Philly. But that

1050
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: guy's gonna get like twelve thirteen million a year. The

1051
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: Bills are not going to be living in that range

1052
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: of paying players on the free agent market. They're not

1053
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 2: going to be in the business of that, so you

1054
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: got to find the affordable options, and I think TJ.

1055
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: Slaton's one of them. Another veteran player who's only going

1056
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 2: to turn thirty one in April is Adam Butler. He's

1057
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,479
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle that played for the Raiders the last

1058
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: two years. Six ' five, three hundred, He's durable and

1059
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: is coming off a career year last year. And he

1060
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 2: also is familiar with the AFC East because he began

1061
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: his career with the Patriots, played a little in Miami

1062
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 2: and then.

1063
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 3: Went to Vegas. So that's the kind of player.

1064
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what in terms of experience, in terms of

1065
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: affordability that the Bills are going to be looking for.

1066
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: He's got back to back five SAX seasons, so he's

1067
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle that you know can push the pocket

1068
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1069
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: So to me, you're going to go down the list

1070
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: of free agents and you're gonna look for trades, and

1071
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna and Brandon Bean's gonna look for the biggest,

1072
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: the fastest, strongest guys there are, and then he's gonna

1073
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: lean on his coaching staff McDermott to say, hey, do

1074
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: what you do get the most out of these guys,

1075
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: and mcdermotal'll do it. I mean, Dai Kwon Jones was

1076
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: just a guy coming in, but he was he they

1077
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: got the most purpose. He really did. So I think

1078
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,959
Speaker 1: whoever they get if you give him the kind. Same

1079
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: thing with Jordan Phillips. He was a second round draft pick,

1080
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: so we had some traits and he was not happy

1081
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: in Miami. He totally sat here next to me in

1082
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: the studio and said, they just they didn't like me

1083
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: to be passionate. They didn't want me waving my arms

1084
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: and getting the crowd into it. They said, don't do

1085
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: that anymore. They told me not to do that here.

1086
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: You know. They the atmosphere was that he could thrive here,

1087
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,959
Speaker 1: and he can't. He's come back three times. So that's

1088
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: what I would do if i'm you know, Brandon Bean,

1089
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: get guys that have all the tools, or as many

1090
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: of those guys you can get, and just lean on

1091
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's coaching staff to motivate him and get the

1092
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: most out of them. This building has a reputation for

1093
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: having guys play their best football inside it, no matter

1094
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: what else where else they go. So let's get some

1095
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: guys with more tools to play well with.

1096
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean second, I would probably I would. I

1097
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: still wouldn't go safety. I'd go corner before safety, just

1098
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: out of personal preference, because Benford is the only surefire

1099
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 2: thing right now that you have on the outside. Douglass

1100
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 2: is going to be a free agent. He's also going

1101
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: to be thirty one years old, and if you're going

1102
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: to play more man coverage, and the hiring of the

1103
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 2: senior defensive assistant, Ryan Nielsen is an indication that you're

1104
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: going to explore that at the very least, and they

1105
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: played a lot more man coverage down the stretch last season.

1106
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 2: I think you need a corner that can do everything

1107
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 2: back there. Whatever the coverage call is, he can execute.

1108
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 2: And I don't know if he can say that about

1109
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: Rasouol anymore at thirty one years old. He was never

1110
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: a man cover corner by trade to begin with, and

1111
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 2: now at age thirty one, I'm not certain he can

1112
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: fill the bill for you.

1113
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 3: So you gotta look elsewhere. And what are the bills

1114
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 3: like at corner?

1115
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: They're like long limbed corners that are good in run support.

1116
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 2: So I got a couple of names for you, Steve

1117
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: Paulson Adebo from New Orleans six one two. He's twenty

1118
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: five years old, former third round pick out of Stanford.

1119
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: He runs a four to four to two and he's

1120
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: got ten picks in the last four seasons.

1121
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 3: You could get him for about.

1122
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: Ten million a year. And the reason why because he

1123
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: broke his femur last year, so he's coming off a

1124
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: major injury. So as long as his physical checks out

1125
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: and everything's good, I'd sign up for that guy.

1126
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 3: And he starts opposite Benford.

1127
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: And now you got two six one guys on the outside,

1128
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: and I feel pretty good about your starting crew.

1129
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: They are on the outside, and.

1130
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: That's and that's one thing the Bills do like they

1131
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: like big corners. So that I'm kind of with you

1132
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: on that. It's I'm looking, yeah, I'm looking at all

1133
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: these guys. They're yeah, I'm with you. They're gonna get

1134
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: a guy with trades. I mean, that's the DRAFTFT one too, But.

1135
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: You need somebody for your starting lineup at the corner spot.

1136
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: At least there's a world where you can say, Okay,

1137
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: my starting safeties are Tailor Rap and Cole Bishop like

1138
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: at least there are answers currently on the roster. Maybe

1139
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 2: you can find better ones, but at least you have

1140
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: players you can plug in there.

1141
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 3: I don't know who you're plugging in. It's starting corner opposite.

1142
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: Ben Well, that's yeah, that's that's a high level athlete

1143
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: that you're you need somebody that's And there's a whole

1144
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: list of guys that are going to be out there.

1145
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: And I love JaMarcus Ingram, but to me, I think

1146
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: he's best as a reserve corner for you to step

1147
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: in and when he has, he's done a nice job.

1148
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: But if he's out there on every snap, I don't know.

1149
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about that.

1150
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking. I mean, there's some high end guys

1151
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: out there. So if you want to go out and

1152
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: jump for one, sure, I don't know that you're gonna get,

1153
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, like a guy the guy there, but you

1154
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: know from the Jets DJ Reid fourteen points say he's

1155
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: gonna cost a lot. He's gonna cost a lot.

1156
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 3: That's probably a little too rich for the Bills.

1157
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, they unless they jump for a guy like that,

1158
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: but they got to pay the guy they got, you know.

1159
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Benford will probably be in line for an extension

1160
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: and what you pay him is going to impact what

1161
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: you're going to spend on the other side, whether it's

1162
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: free agency or whether you draft somebody. So maybe with

1163
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: a guy coming up on his second contract, they say,

1164
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 2: you know what, let's just address that in the draft

1165
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: and get a guy that we feel can start day one. Well,

1166
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 2: now you're drafting somewhere on the first two days at

1167
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: the corner position, no matter what.

1168
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll say this too. You want to get

1169
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: a gauge of what the market looks like that the

1170
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: website I'm looking at that has market value for these guys.

1171
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: They get their statistics over the last two years of

1172
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: their career, just the last two so where they're at

1173
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: right now in their career, and their stats, say, Rasselle

1174
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: Douglas is a is a twelve million dollar CB cornerback

1175
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: Russelle Douglas. Yeah, he's not, and he's not that fast.

1176
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: You know he's I can pay him that, right, So

1177
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: you can do it. But you go on production alone.

1178
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: That's where you're sitting there looking at So you know

1179
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: it's it's expensive out there, particularly at the money spots corner,

1180
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: defensive end, left tackle, quarterback, and wide out. Those are

1181
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: the money spots and.

1182
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 3: Then you have to tackle is quickly catching up. Yeah,

1183
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 3: let's go to the phone. See what you have to say.

1184
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: At eight oh three oh five fifty into Gary on

1185
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: a sale first, what's up Gary?

1186
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, y'all doing good? Good the way I look

1187
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 9: at it, where you know, they won what thirteen games

1188
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 9: last year they could have won fourteen? Yeah, yeah, we're

1189
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 9: good enough to beat. You know, the team was supposed

1190
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 9: to be We're we're pretty much to do that. I'm

1191
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 9: looking at the beating you know, Bangles, Ravens, Eagles, obviously

1192
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 9: the Chiefs. What they're all a really good quarterback teams.

1193
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 9: What's the one position that affects quarterbacks? You've got the line,

1194
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 9: you have to do it. How many times did Mahomes

1195
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 9: roll out and get first downs on us in the

1196
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 9: ANAFC Championship game. It killed us. That's when we lost

1197
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 9: the game. We've got to get something to set the

1198
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 9: edge and get up the field, and that's not gonna

1199
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 9: be pushed around. We still got dropped on the ground

1200
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 9: two three times.

1201
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 5: I gave.

1202
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 9: We need so many other side that's going to make

1203
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 9: a difference. If we don't do we're not beating those

1204
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 9: teams consistently.

1205
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'd be inclined to agree. And look,

1206
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 2: it wasn't just that Chiefs game where the Bills got

1207
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: victimized by a bootlegging quarterback. Matthew Stafford had his way

1208
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: with this Bills defense in the Rams game, rolling out

1209
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: all the time. And they knew going into the game.

1210
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: I mean, the scouting report told you. I mean, we

1211
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: me and Eric would going into the broadcast knew that

1212
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: he was going to roll out a lot and make plays.

1213
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: And he still got you know, you know, the Bills

1214
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: were prepared for that, but they couldn't do anything to it. Yeah,

1215
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: gave up forty four points.

1216
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: And I'll say that, and I don't want to get

1217
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: caught up. I know we're all there at the recency

1218
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: bias where we just saw the Super Bowl and the

1219
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: and the Eagles looked unbeatable by a team that had

1220
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: just won two super Bowls. I mean, and they lumped

1221
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: those lay lumped the Chiefs up. It wasn't close. And

1222
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: because of that, we think, well, let's that's the way

1223
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: to do it. And sure, but it's it's really hard

1224
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,439
Speaker 1: to get there fast. And to me, it's almost it's

1225
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: even harder than finding a franchise quarterback. Everybody can identify them,

1226
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, and find one that's available as you can

1227
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: get your hands on whatever. But think about this, You

1228
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: got to get like four or five dudes that are

1229
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: all timers at defensive tackle and defensive end combined that'll

1230
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: go out there and do what the Eagles did. So

1231
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: you're Most teams in the NFL like all the let's

1232
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: talk about the ones we've been talking about the Browns,

1233
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: the Raiders, Bengals, they're just they got one guy and

1234
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: they're happy about it. They got Miles Garrett, Max Crosby,

1235
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: and Trey Hendrickson and they're they couldn't be happier with

1236
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: those guys. They're not looking for other defensive ends because

1237
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: what are you gonna how you do that all those guys?

1238
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: You get enough guys on a rookie contract. Yeah, that's great.

1239
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: Most teams on thirty one, other teams other than the Eagles,

1240
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: they just need one. Just give me one guy and

1241
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: then everybody else can elevate because they got to pay

1242
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: so much attention to a game wrecker that everybody else

1243
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: gets better and we can make we can generate pressure

1244
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: plus every once in a while, we send an extra

1245
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: guy and boom, we catch him. That's all you need. Uh,

1246
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: certainly if you can. And let's let's just exaggerate to

1247
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: make a point. We all talking about getting quick pressure

1248
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: with four guys and dropping seven into coverage. Exaggerated. What

1249
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: if you could do it with only three guys, then

1250
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,919
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, that's how you win. But it's unrealistic

1251
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: to think you're gonna go out and all of a

1252
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: sudden you're gonna lead the league in sacks from where

1253
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: the Bills are right now. But you do, you do

1254
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: want to get maybe the top ten, top five you

1255
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: want to get. You want to get somewhere near. You

1256
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: gotta have one guy that is an absolute game wrecker.

1257
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. The problem with this year's draft is there's only

1258
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: about eight to ten true blue chip talents. So it's

1259
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 2: gonna be a pretty hot price to pay. Like, you

1260
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 2: can't go up to sixteen and still get a blue chipper.

1261
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: You got to go up into the top ten, and

1262
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 2: that is an exorbitantly high price to pay.

1263
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 3: I don't anticipate that.

1264
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: I think the defensive tackle class is deep enough where

1265
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: you can get a good quality player that can make

1266
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: a difference for you right away, but we'll see how

1267
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: it all shakes out come late April.

1268
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 3: Let's go to Mark in West Seneca. What's up, Mark?

1269
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 10: You guys stop me wavering back and forth between dtackle

1270
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 10: and corner. Yeah, and I'm trying to take into account.

1271
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 10: If you draft one or the other in the first round,

1272
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 10: you get the five year benefit. You gonna have them

1273
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 10: on that rookie contract. You know, if they really pan out,

1274
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 10: who's gonna be the higher plush player. But over the

1275
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 10: last couple of years, we've seen de tackles just balloon

1276
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 10: in the cost of what those guys are if they're

1277
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 10: really good. So I don't think you can go wrong

1278
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 10: either way. But I mean I'm leaning towards the tackle anyway.

1279
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 10: I love Terrell Bernard, but the fact of the matter

1280
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 10: is he's a little undersized, so that those hurt you

1281
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 10: on rundowns first and second down. And if we remember

1282
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 10: what our defense looked like all last year, we were

1283
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 10: really hard getting off the field on third down because

1284
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 10: most drives for the other team started with four or

1285
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 10: five six yard runs on first down. We just could

1286
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 10: not get them behind the chains with any kind of consistency,

1287
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 10: which then turned us into a bend but do not

1288
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 10: break defense, which allowed the other team to country roll

1289
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 10: the ball a lot of times on us, especially against

1290
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 10: the good teams at the end of the year. So

1291
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 10: the guy out of Green Bay Brownie, I think that's

1292
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 10: a great idea, but we definitely need a athletic corner.

1293
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 10: And I don't know if you guys this early have

1294
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 10: any idea how deep the corner back class is. Is

1295
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 10: there gonna be somebody that really is a plug and

1296
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 10: play guy that we could maybe get in the second round.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know, but they definitely need a

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Speaker 10: plug and play guy if they're gonna go draft wise,

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Speaker 10: So you know, I mean, corner is going to costume

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Speaker 10: and free agency big, big time. You may be able

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Speaker 10: to get a guy or two even in free agency

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01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 10: at the tackle around the Dyklon Jones route when we

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01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 10: went and got him, serviceable guys that are gonna help

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01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 10: you win but aren't gonna cost your fortune. So you know, again,

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01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 10: wavering back and forth by the time the draft and

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01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 10: free agency gets here, more changed on my five times.

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Speaker 2: So that's part of the fun. Mark, But thanks for

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01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: the call. Yeah, And look, the bigger guys are typically

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01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 2: harder to find. This year, you have an uncommon bounty

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01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 2: of talent at the defensive tackle position in the draft

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01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: class that helps the Bills with a major need on

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Speaker 2: their roster.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 2: If they draft too before the draft's over, and they'll

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Speaker 2: probably sign another one in free agency because I think

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Speaker 2: when all is said and done, the only defensive tackles

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01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 2: this team's gonna have under contract by the time they

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Speaker 2: have to add to the position again is going to

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01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 2: be Dwayne Carter and Ed Oliver. I don't think they're

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01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: gonna have any other defensive tackles on the roster. And

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Speaker 2: last year was the same thing. Ed Oliver was the

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Speaker 2: only guy under contract. Last year they had to re

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01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 2: sign Daikon because his contract was up, So it's the

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Speaker 2: same thing over again. It's time to invest there with

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01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 2: a long term solution and that's probably in the draft,

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Speaker 2: potentially with two players.

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Speaker 3: And that's the way I would go, so you.

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Speaker 2: Don't have to keep trying to find answers at a

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01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 2: position where it's hard to find big guys that are

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Speaker 2: capable and good. And to Mark's point about Terrell Bernard,

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01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: you got a two hundred and twenty eight pound middle linebacker.

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01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 2: You better have a space eater in front of him

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01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: covering up two guys. If your linebacker is gonna go

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01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 2: run and hit and make plays, otherwise he's gonna get

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01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: gobbled up at the second level. And now Terrell Bernard

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01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 2: isn't the player he can be because you don't have

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Speaker 2: a guy that can take.

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Speaker 3: On two up front.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a ripple effect. When you get good players

1340
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: down inside, everybody around him gets elevated, the linebackers, the

1341
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: defensive ends, everybody. And it was showed up in a

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01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: huge way for Philly in their playoff run Bond, their linebacker, Bond,

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01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: Zach Bond was a special teams dude, and he's looking

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01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: like an All Pro linebacker because of those guys up front.

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01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's why they're they're hard to find. Even

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01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: if they've got the tools, I don't know if they've

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01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: got the desire of the heart or the mentality to

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01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: be good. And once you pay him, it's too easy

1349
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: to shut it off because it hurts, you know. It's

1350
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: it's a hard, brutal way to make a living. So

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01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: you need you need young, durable, high intensity, motivated guys.

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01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: There's not that many guys that qualify for that, and

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01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: they're hard. They're hard to get. You're not gonna, let

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01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: me say, you're gonna get a guy that's highly motivated

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01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 1: and all that, but he may not have the tools

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Speaker 1: that other guys do. Picking at thirty right, But.

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Speaker 2: Young guys who feel they have something to prove generally

1358
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 2: give you more on a weekly basis, and they cost less.

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01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 2: So find an affordable tier two, tier three free agent

1360
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 2: that doesn't break the bank on you, that you know

1361
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna get an honest day's workout of whether it's

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Speaker 2: week two, week nine, or week seventeen. And then draft

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Speaker 2: a couple and hopefully you've plugged up the middle to

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01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 2: a point where Terrell Bernard and Matt Milano and Dorian

1365
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 2: Williams can run and hit and make one hundred and

1366
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: fifty tackles, and your space eater can help Ed get

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01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 2: loose more often as well and maximize his skill set.

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01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Mark in Jersey City.

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Speaker 3: What's up? Mark?

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Speaker 6: Oh, good afternoon, gentlemen, Thanks for taking my call. I

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01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 6: agree with both of you in terms of safety. Up front,

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01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 6: they need to get more athletic, I think, and not

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01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 6: only just more athletic, more physical. When we going into

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01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 6: a game and felt like they have a physical advantage,

1375
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 6: like Downhill, they can really offensively, they have it now,

1376
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 6: but defensively they've always been a little light in the

1377
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 6: pants like long On try Hards and field Goods. But

1378
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 6: they built a defense from back to front the first

1379
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 6: time they did it, Hoyer, Karen Hide. Now they have

1380
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:39,879
Speaker 6: to do it. They have to go to the reverse.

1381
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 6: They have to build it. Like you said, young guys,

1382
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 6: you know, willing to go out there and lay it

1383
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 6: on the line. Like Steve, I saw your face and

1384
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 6: those old clips that you getting ready to play a game.

1385
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 6: You look like dudes that were ready to go out.

1386
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 6: I've been in boxing locker rooms before. Guys are ready

1387
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 6: to go out. You had that look in your eye like, Hey,

1388
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 6: I'm ready to go out and just I'm gonna leave

1389
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 6: it all here and if I don't come back, I

1390
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 6: don't come back.

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Speaker 9: That type of look.

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Speaker 6: They need guys like that, and you did that into

1393
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 6: your thirties, and so they need guys like that, guys

1394
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 6: that are just young and hungry, eager, ready, willing and able.

1395
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 6: I don't know where they go in for agency, but

1396
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 6: they could find somebody great, but I think it's going

1397
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 6: to be in the draft. Thanks taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah, sure thing.

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to find out a lot. How

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01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: I think we'll find out how active they'll be in

1401
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: free agency when they clear the cap space, how much

1402
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: they clear they've got they we just found out today

1403
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna get a big boost. CAP's going to go

1404
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: up significantly more than they thought it was. And they've

1405
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: got already got this. We've been talking about how they're

1406
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: going to clear cap with restructures and releases and that

1407
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: all this stuff they're gonna be able to get there.

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01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: How much, how far they get there will tell us

1409
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: a lot about what they're going to do in free

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01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: agency and who they're going to extend and how it's

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01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: going to go. So wouldn't we wait to see what

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01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 1: happens when that when they start freeing up some cap space.

1413
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: But they will, And yeah, they got the good news

1414
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: today is that the CAP's going to go way up,

1415
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: so that you know they were right to spend some more.

1416
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: They had more to spend that we didn't know.

1417
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,520
Speaker 2: And it should afford them a little bit more maneuverability,

1418
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 2: hopefully on the free agent market. And look, here's the

1419
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: other thing that we shouldn't forget either. Sean McDermott at

1420
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 2: every position wants a veteran in that position room.

1421
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 3: It's important to him.

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01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 2: It's a philosophical tenant of his vision for his football team.

1423
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 2: And you know, if all those vets a defensive tackle

1424
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: are out the door, including day Kwon Jones, I think

1425
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 2: we should expect a free agent ad of the veteran

1426
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: variety in that room, and then still probably a couple

1427
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: of ads.

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01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 3: In the draft.

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01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 2: I mean, if the Bills get two compensatories in the

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01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 2: fifth round, as some are projecting, the Bills will have

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01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 2: ten picks.

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01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 3: I believe so that.

1433
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 2: That really affords them a lot of maneuverability and the

1434
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 2: ability to really exercise variety in the draft as well.

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01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 3: So hopefully that is the case most.

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01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: Of the website, and it comes to most of the

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Speaker 1: websites you go to that are talking about the draft

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01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: pick and they give you the draft order and they,

1439
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, all the stuff that they do on the

1440
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: way they're given the Bills ten picks, they're they're marking

1441
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 1: them down for ten picks. Now where exactly those picks are?

1442
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: And you know that that remains to be seen.

1443
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,799
Speaker 2: I think worst case scenario was a single fifth rounder.

1444
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,759
Speaker 2: Best case scenario was a fourth and a five. Middle

1445
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 2: tier scenario was two fives. So, knowing that the league

1446
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 2: doesn't really ever shine a favorable light on the Bills

1447
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 2: when it comes to compensatories, I'm not expecting a four

1448
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 2: and a five right this hopeful for two to five.

1449
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one I'm looking at. The Bills have a

1450
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: first two seconds, two fours. They're saying, two fives and

1451
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: three sixes they do.

1452
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have everything but the fives right now because

1453
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 2: compensatories haven't been awarded.

1454
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: So that's that's where they're at. And so they'll have

1455
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: five picks in and the fifth one would be the

1456
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty first player. Yeah, that five of

1457
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: those inside the top one thirty one.

1458
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing in round three and nothing in round seven. Yeah,

1459
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 2: so yeah, that's kind of where it's at. But I

1460
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 2: still believe that if all those veteran defensive tackles are

1461
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 2: out the door, including Daiquon, who could potentially be a

1462
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: cap casualty, even though he would only save him about

1463
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 2: one point eight, he's going to be thirty five. I

1464
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: think by next season, they're gonna pick up a veteran

1465
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 2: somewhere and they're usually good when it comes to bargain

1466
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 2: hunting and getting guys at affordable prices. Yeah, they whether

1467
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: it's a one year deal or even a two year deal.

1468
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: So we'll see what comes to pass. But it's all

1469
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: coming down the pike in a hurry here in the

1470
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 2: next couple of weeks. Got to take a break here,

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Speaker 2: more of your phone calls when we return here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Healthics Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

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01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and we've been talking free agency,

1475
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 2: but we're going to talk a little draft here as

1476
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,759
Speaker 2: we do a little NFL True False Steve, because the draft,

1477
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 2: as we know, will be front and center next week

1478
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 2: at the NFL Combine. We will be there the entire week,

1479
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 2: and I think it's only appropriate that we dive in

1480
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 2: with our NFL True False, which is brought to you

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Speaker 2: by Patron Tequila, the official tequila of the Buffalo Bills.

1482
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:45,759
Speaker 2: NFL True False Number one. There will be a run

1483
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 2: on running backs in the first round of this year's

1484
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 2: NFL Draft. And just for reference, NFL dot COM's Daniel

1485
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 2: Jeremiah has three running backs coming off the board in

1486
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 2: Round one, which I think would be the most in

1487
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 2: like two twelve years, So.

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01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: That counts as a run. Three of them.

1489
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: Well, he's got them going in a span of about

1490
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: eight different picks in the mid teens to the early twenties,

1491
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: so it's not even bottom of the round here.

1492
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 3: We're talking like middle of the round.

1493
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 1: But there weren't any first round running backs for like

1494
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: ten years, right.

1495
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Traveon Henderson Ashton Johnty from Boise State, and

1496
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 2: there was another running back that he.

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01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: I will say, yes, there will be. There'll be three

1498
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: guys in the first round after not having won for

1499
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 1: a long time, or you know, late in the first.

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01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 3: Oh, Amarion Hampton, the North Carolina.

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01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: Kiss, I'll say, yeah, might be three guys gone.

1502
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm I'm inclined to say yes two, not only because

1503
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 2: the running back class is very strong this year, but

1504
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 2: also because of the return of the run game that

1505
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 2: we witnessed in the league this past season.

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01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 3: There were more teams.

1507
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 2: Closer to fifty to fifty run pass in terms of

1508
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: play selection than we've had probably in the last eight seasons,

1509
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 2: It's been a minute since we saw a run game

1510
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 2: take on as as prominent a role as it has

1511
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 2: not just here in Buffalo with James Cook and Ray

1512
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 2: Davis and Ty Johnson, but elsewhere as well. I think

1513
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 2: we anticipated it from the new head coach in LA

1514
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 2: and Jim Harbaugh. But there were a lot of teams

1515
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: running the ball a lot more Green Bay with Josh Jacobs.

1516
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: I mean, there were a number of teams run the

1517
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 2: Philly with Saquan you know, the Ravens who run the

1518
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 2: ball a lot to begin with, ran it even more

1519
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 2: with Derrick Henry. So I think there was an advent

1520
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: of heavier run game presence, and I think that will

1521
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 2: prompt some teams who feel they don't have one to

1522
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: get one to make their offense more diversified.

1523
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just give them a piece of advice. Start

1524
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: in the offensive line first.

1525
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 2: Yes, But a perfect example would be the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1526
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 2: I mean that's a team that has invested in their

1527
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: offensive line.

1528
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 3: The last couple of drafts.

1529
01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: Naji Harris, I think has largely been a disappointment. Difference

1530
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: maker in your backfield. Make your line look better and

1531
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: you know the Chargers were running the football with spare

1532
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 2: parts and guys with injury real careers like JK. Dobbins,

1533
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: they could draft one. So those are candidates in the

1534
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 2: twenties there that could very quickly decide on a running

1535
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 2: back in Round one, don't I don't think it's out

1536
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 2: of the realm with possibility at all. Do we call

1537
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: to your point, though, do we call three running backs

1538
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 2: drafted in a span of eight picks run?

1539
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,480
Speaker 3: I think for the running back position in round one, yes.

1540
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 1: It would be a It would be an aberration have

1541
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: that many running backs going the first round, no question

1542
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: about it. So that would count as a run. I

1543
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: mean you're loo looking at teams like Chicago. If there's

1544
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 1: a difference maker there, you don't think San Francisco would

1545
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: grab him.

1546
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1547
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: With McCaffrey's health sets, Yeah, yeah, I would say so.

1548
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 1: All of that. Dallas has always had a penchant for

1549
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: running backs. Yeah, there's some guys. There's some teams there

1550
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,520
Speaker 1: that would do it. Arizona, we'll see.

1551
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 2: NFL true false number two, Steve, the Tennessee Titans with

1552
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 2: the top pick in the draft will not select a quarterback.

1553
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 3: True or fall.

1554
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: I haven't been real.

1555
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 3: I haven't been They drafted Will Levis two years ago.

1556
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: I haven't keep been keeping up with how he's done,

1557
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: and he has. He looked okay, he's got big time tools.

1558
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: They didn't play well. Did he finish the season last year?

1559
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: I can't remember.

1560
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:27,759
Speaker 3: Uh, he was in and out.

1561
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 2: That Mason Rudolph if you remember Rudolph played here in

1562
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: Week seven because Levis was still digging.

1563
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, first pick of the draft. I don't

1564
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: think so.

1565
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 3: It's not a banner year for quarterbacks.

1566
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think so. There's a couple Shdor Sanders,

1567
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: cam Ward, I get it, and yay, maybe, but it's

1568
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: always on the table if you think there's the guy there. Yeah,

1569
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: I don't care who it is. And if they don't,

1570
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 1: it's because they traded the pick because somebody was willing

1571
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: to give them because they believe there's a guy there.

1572
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, no, they.

1573
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 6: Won't do it.

1574
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 3: False, Yeah, false.

1575
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 2: I would be inclined to say that two Levis hasn't

1576
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 2: shown them enough. Maybe he gets another year and maybe

1577
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: the Titans do something in free agency with a veteran

1578
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 2: as a bridge to maybe next year's class of quarterbacks.

1579
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 2: When you got guys like Arch Manning probably coming out

1580
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 2: among others, and maybe you just wait one more year

1581
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: and then get your guy if you're still near the

1582
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: top of the draft board. The other thing the Titans

1583
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: could do is trade out if there's some team at

1584
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 2: three or four, like the Giants at three. If they're

1585
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 2: worried Cleveland's gonna take the quarterback at two because they're

1586
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 2: done with Deshaun Watson, the Giants might be inclined to

1587
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 2: leapfrog them, and maybe they do a swap with the

1588
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 2: Titans to get up to the top spot, and the

1589
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 2: Titans sit at three and then take the edge rusher

1590
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 2: they want, like Abdul Carter. So yeah, I would I

1591
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 2: would say right now, no, but I don't think we

1592
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 2: can rule it out decisively. Yeah, quarterback is always a

1593
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 2: possibility at the top of the draft. That's exactly We've

1594
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 2: seen too many examples of that happening. It's for now false.

1595
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say.

1596
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 3: False too, NFL true false.

1597
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 2: Number three, The best fit for free Asian quarterback Aaron

1598
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:32,799
Speaker 2: Rodgers is with the Raiders true or false.

1599
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: Oh, I would say it's a pretty good fit as

1600
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: compared to any other team out there. Let's just I

1601
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: don't know. Yes, the Raiders are absolutely a landing spot

1602
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: for him, but I think it's just I mean, you

1603
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 1: think about other teams out there.

1604
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 2: Tennessee.

1605
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee is a good one, Cleveland is one. Yeah, yeah,

1606
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: there's Yeah, he's not going anyplace else. He's not going

1607
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: to I said, I threw it out there. The Giants

1608
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: could sign him, but I don't.

1609
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that I see Dable jiving with Rogers. Yeah,

1610
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 2: they seem like very different humans.

1611
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that is of all that I'm looking

1612
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: at the whole list of teams right now, all of

1613
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 1: them in the league. That may be the one that

1614
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers gravitates. It's gonna be Vegas or Cleveland.

1615
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 2: Okay, that's one to put on the whiteboard. So you're

1616
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: gonna say true for this, I'm gonna say true.

1617
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 3: Does it change your mind at all if I tell

1618
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 3: you and remind you that the offensive coordinator.

1619
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 2: There is Chip Kelly.

1620
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 1: In Vegas?

1621
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the O C Pete Carroll.

1622
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: Do you do it? Do they have a personal beef

1623
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: for something? A Twitter beef that I don't know.

1624
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 3: But it's gonna be a new system.

1625
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 2: For him, which you know, at age forty one is

1626
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 2: probably less than desirable. He didn't care they might not.

1627
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: He just wants some place to play if he wants

1628
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: to play.

1629
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, which might be another NFL true false for the future.

1630
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 2: Does Aaron Rodgers decide to play in twenty twenty five

1631
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: or hang it up? So that could be another one.

1632
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say.

1633
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say true because the Raiders history as an

1634
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: organization is to scoop up veteran cast offs. I mean

1635
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 2: that has been their motto for the better part of

1636
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 2: the last fifty years. Yep, Guys that other teams think

1637
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 2: are washed up, they will take put on their roster

1638
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 2: and try to maximize their value. I mean, you can

1639
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 2: go all the way back to Ted Hendricks, Lyle Alzado,

1640
01:23:53,320 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: like Charles Woodson, Jim Brodwoods, Jim Plunkett, Yeah, Jim Plunkett,

1641
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 2: Rod Woodson.

1642
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1643
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 3: You know, so they've done it.

1644
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: Before, rich Jerry Rice, rich Gannon Yeah, Jerry Rice. I

1645
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: mean Jim Plunkett and Rich Gannon were done and they

1646
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: took him to the Super Bowl.

1647
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 3: Gannon won an m v P.

1648
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So how about this, it would make sense the

1649
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 2: history of the.

1650
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 1: Work about this though, Brownie. So the Raiders are sitting there.

1651
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard I'm being facetious. Of

1652
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: course you heard they got a new minority owner who

1653
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: used to play quarterback. I don't know what he says

1654
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: about that, because if he says, no, it ain't happening,

1655
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: well that's right. But if he says, let's kick the tires,

1656
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: that's that's really the question. What does what does Tom

1657
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: Brady think about Aaron Rodgers being the quarterback of his

1658
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:50,879
Speaker 1: multi multimillion dollar investment.

1659
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that would Yeah, that is an

1660
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 2: interesting dynamic for that for sure.

1661
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,879
Speaker 1: Because you know they're they're golfing buddies.

1662
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, are they as buddy buddy when they're on the

1663
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 2: same team.

1664
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,799
Speaker 1: Well, they played it was it was Rogers and Brady

1665
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: against Mahomes and Josh.

1666
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is win in Terra Santa.

1667
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 1: Yes, that makes me say true it is the Raiders

1668
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:28,759
Speaker 1: are the spot.

1669
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 3: So that is NFL True false.

1670
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:34,960
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1671
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,760
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1672
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: come back, the NFL Operations Department is asking for your

1673
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 2: suggestions on how to make NFL football better. We'll tell

1674
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:53,120
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1675
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: one Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1676
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 2: All right, back here on one of Bill's Live, Chris

1677
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 2: Brown Steve Tasker on Wednesday, Steve, I have good news

1678
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:13,799
Speaker 2: for you and your NFL ideas. Let's see, the NFL

1679
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 2: Operations Department has put out the call for ideas to

1680
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: make the game better. They are accepting submissions until Saint

1681
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 2: Patrick's Day. You can make your submissions at opsops dot

1682
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 2: NFL dot com slash NFL forward. So your idea for

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01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 2: NFL City.

1684
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 1: Thirty second, pick second pitch. Here's what it is. NFL City.

1685
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 1: It's a lot like Disney World, except with the NFL shield,

1686
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 1: not the mouse ears. And in fact, instead of having

1687
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 1: rides and all that stuff, you have water parks, beach

1688
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: resorts and all of that stuff. And then you have

1689
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: a stadium and you have hotels, restaurants, the whole thing.

1690
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: And every Thursday night game is in NFL City, and

1691
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:56,799
Speaker 1: NFL City is going to be on an island somewhere

1692
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: like in Puerto Rico or whatever. And then you can

1693
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: have NFL and cruises, NFL cruises, golf course, you'd have

1694
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: an NFL proram. You have off season events where you know,

1695
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 1: legends of the game go down there. The revenues would

1696
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: be they'd get a like a treated like a franchise,

1697
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,560
Speaker 1: so it would get a full share of the television

1698
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: revenues and all of that. So you could build infrastructure

1699
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,520
Speaker 1: with that, and you'd have the stadium, you'd have hotels,

1700
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: and every Thursday night football game would be there, so

1701
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills fans, Hey, let's go to NFL City for

1702
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 1: the weekend. So you get people through the doors, all

1703
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: through every sea, every game of the season. Sooner or

1704
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: later you could get in the bidding wars for championship game,

1705
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: super Bowls, put it in the loop, that kind of thing,

1706
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: and you'd have golf courses, water parks, beach resorts, off

1707
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 1: season stuff going on down there. You'd have a PGA

1708
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 1: Tour event with your golf course down there, the whole thing,

1709
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: and it's big, you know, and the NFL owns it. It

1710
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: would be a thirty third franchise and be treated as such.

1711
01:27:55,520 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: You split the revenues thirty four ways. NFL city gets

1712
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: a franch gets the splits the share. The teams get

1713
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: the share, and then one other goes towards the NFL

1714
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: players alumni, so that you pay them to go down

1715
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: and get people go down there in the.

1716
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 2: Off season, that you stick them on a cruise ship

1717
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 2: and they're going down right. The fans whether they're down there.

1718
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 1: They they got skin in the game of success. You

1719
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: could have you know, all star game, College Bowl games there,

1720
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: national Championship games there. You just put it. You'd be

1721
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,480
Speaker 1: a venue that would stand on its own as a destination.

1722
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 3: It's pretty good.

1723
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 2: So if you have your own suggestions, that's how I

1724
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 2: think send them to ops dot NFL dot com slash

1725
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: NFL forward. I might send him my laser beam first

1726
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 2: down marker idea with a runner on each side of

1727
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 2: the sideline shooting a laser to properly spot it at

1728
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 2: the end of play.

1729
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: They've done it with long jump in the Olympics. They

1730
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: got it's all mechanical, and you know they can.

1731
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 3: Just run right above the surface of the ground along

1732
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 3: each side.

1733
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 1: There's nothing nothing nothing between you and the guy jumping,

1734
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: but there's a lot between you and.

1735
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 3: The eliminate the chain game.

1736
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 1: That's kind of sad.

1737
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 2: It is, but I think we need to move past

1738
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 2: chains and two sticks to measure first downs. It's just me.

1739
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 3: Seems a little largeist's.

1740
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: Good enough for put a man on the moon.

1741
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 3: For you put a man on the moon sixty years ago.

1742
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: I think I'd like to think we could do better

1743
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 2: with that. That's all for us today. We'll see you

1744
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 2: tomorrow at want Heretic