WEBVTT - I’ll Be The One with the Coffee (S2 E11, "Secrets and Loans") 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:18.440 I am all in. I am all in with Scott 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:22.880 Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Well we're back. We 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:29.400 are back from our break. Ladies and gentlemen. H happy 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:35.840 to be back. We are back. How is everybody's vacation? Huh? Christmas? 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:40.440 Good holidays? Why who's the start? Vacation was just filled 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:45.440 with COVID and my goodness in our house from the rain. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:50.000 Say hey, we're here. Listen. We've got We've got We've 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.680 got Danielle Romo, We've got Riley Pelusis, We've got Amy Sugarman. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.680 We've got the ball club back together. Everybody's in one 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:02.040 piece somewhat. Some of us are in COVID, some of 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.640 us are out of it, some of it are in 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:09.360 the middle of it. But we're still doing the podcast COVID. 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.720 But if I sound a little weird, it's because I'm 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:16.680 in a bathroom because my furnace that's in my attic 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.520 it broke and so it basically started ringing in my house. 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.520 So I'm at my mom's house and the internet is 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:25.720 not great, so I'm literally my computer is on a 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.360 toilet and I'm sitting on the bathroom floor. But how 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:34.199 do I assume you've never sounded better. Very well themed 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.479 with this episode that we have to recap today, It's 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:41.640 like you couldn't be more loreal. It's just perfect. It's 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.520 it's like you're mimicking the character. Put the video of 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:48.760 it raining inside my house on the Instagram and right 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:53.760 to loyalize falling in our porch. Well, I hope everybody 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:59.200 had a wonderful holiday break and you've got plenty of 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:03.160 stocking stuff. First, get all the presents you wanted, and 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:09.320 uh had a wonderful, safe holiday. Happy New Year, everybody 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:15.040 is the best year yet. Start starting off that way. 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.160 I'm going to announce right here on this show that 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:24.200 I have COVID and I am in the grips of it, 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.560 kind of in the middle of it, but I'm rallying 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.120 a little bit. Yeah, I did not think you were 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:30.720 going to make it today. Did you see my text? 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.120 I said you were a little concerned. I know I was. 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:35.840 When I woke up, I was a little concerned. I 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.880 was like, wow, I you know, because of the fatigue factor. 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.600 So I don't want you to feel pressure. But it 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.680 just so people know, it's why we were on last week. 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:52.280 Because there's five people on this zoom and lady, I 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:59.120 operate best under pressure, let me tell you so. Anyway, 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.359 But you know that's you just gotta roll with the 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:06.840 punches and you gotta deliver, right. Uh. And we're gonna no, no, 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.560 you you are the champs. I am just I'm just 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.600 maybe the cut guy in the corner. That's it. You're 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:20.040 the champs. I'm just trying to hang in there. And guys, 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.280 here we go, We're gonna, We're gonna break down. Season two, 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:27.120 Episode eleven, Secrets and Loans. Original air date January two 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:31.120 thousand and two. What did we think of this episode? 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.240 I have a definitive reaction. I want to hear your 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:38.400 reactions first, Danielle, you go. I mean, just like I 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.600 was kind of saying earlier, I just really related to 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:45.680 this episode just with my recent house league. Um. I 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.920 just couldn't stop laughing. It was such a good episode. Um. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.080 And I know we'll jump into it a little bit more. 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.840 But Rory in Paris dynamic in this episode was great. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.360 I loved it. So I think we have a synopsis 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.280 coming up. Riley, you want to yeah, I want to 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.640 give us a synopsis. I would love to give the synopsis. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.760 I'm really sad at on how my sexy voice anymore? 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.920 But glad I don't have COVID, so it's a great 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:15.480 trade off. So this is episode eleven, Secrets and Loans. 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.960 Air date January twenty two, two two. LORIAI is concerned 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.200 over the fact that she cannot afford to repair her 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.600 home's extensive termite damage. Turns to anger when Rory tells 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.360 Emily about their problem and Emily offers a loan to 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.880 Lorela again. I'm not gonna lie. I did call my 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.840 dad when my ceiling was leaking in and said, I 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:37.719 don't think I'm gonna need to borrow any money, but 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:44.360 be ready, just thinking, Uh, so what do we do? 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.440 How do we feel about this episode? So it's so 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.559 funny because I think we loved it, and I'm getting 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:55.080 a feeling you didn't tell us more. I did not. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.960 I did not tell us everything. I thought it was 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:04.320 a lackluster performer. I thought it was been there, done that. 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:10.200 We've seen this already. Uh, same old tropes, same old stuff, 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:15.960 same old, same old, nothing new. I don't didn't get it. 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.960 I just felt like I just felt like the writer's 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.120 room took a week off and and and was leaning 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:27.000 on you know, on the greatness of the past couple 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:33.520 of episodes, and I don't remember laughing at all. I 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:38.240 wasn't amused by it at all. It was graating to me, Um, 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.400 and I think it was one of the reasons critics 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.400 look at the show and say, well, you know, they 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.680 could point a finger and say, well, that's in This 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:51.280 show is inconsistent. It's not delivering at a very high 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.440 level every single episode. And this is one of the 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:59.800 episodes you can point to in my opinion, Um, that 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.800 for me did not deliver. It was all I just 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:07.719 saw everything coming a mile away. Uh, what can I 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.360 tell you, Laura, I got on my nerves. I thought 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.159 the whole thing was shrilled. Do you think it was 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:18.760 your least favorite episode? Absolutely? Absolutely absolutely. I thought they 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:23.159 could have scrubbed it and redone it. I did not 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:27.120 feel that rightly, And Danielle tell me how you guys felt. 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:31.320 I did not feel that way well, coming off of 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:37.400 last episode. Yeah, brace Bridge Dinner. That was unbelievable. So 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.200 I'll give it to you, Scott. This one was a 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.400 little bit softer, but I still loved it. I still 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:47.000 found the humor in it. I still thought, Um, there 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.200 was a lot of good content in there, but it 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.960 was softer than like coming off of Bracebridge dinner. I'll 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.919 give you that. I see what's stop saying, and that 0:06:56.000 --> 0:07:00.040 it was redundant sort of for a better no a 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.400 word to use. Like Paris and Rory have conflict. We've 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.000 seen it. Emily and Lorelei have conflict over money. We've 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.400 seen it. You know, Luke comes to the rescue, but 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:13.040 lord I won't won't take his help. We've seen it. 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:18.120 But I still totally enjoyed it. Oh, Scott, you guys. 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.400 I wish you guys could see his face. Okay, so 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.600 let's break it down. So let's start with Paris and 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.480 Rory and the p S A T S. Did you 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:32.600 find that amusing at all? Not in the least m hm, 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.560 I giggled. I thought it was. I mean, I can 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.400 remember taking the p S A T S. I sort 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.800 of remember people wanting to know what your score was, 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.280 and he's sort of being like, I don't know, and 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.520 Paris just desperately needing to know. I also think it's 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:52.240 fascinating that they are neck and neck. Rory's score is 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:57.240 twenty points higher than Paris, but they really they are 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:02.120 competitors Paris his anxiety really had me l O l ng. 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.720 I thought it was great. Her anxiety Paris is anxiety. 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:12.200 She's a complete psychopath sitting there just like in her 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:20.520 pathetic state. You know, I just I'm sorry, maybe you know, 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:26.200 maybe it's the COVID or whatever an episode, because it 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:32.160 makes this conversation again with this psychopath sitting here like 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:37.040 fishing for compliments, and please ask me the question. I mean, 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.280 And and Rory is so above it at this point. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.640 Is and she just looks at Paris like this nut 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.880 job again. And no, I'm not going to play into 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:49.920 her game, because that's exactly you know, this is tis. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:55.200 The nature of psychopathology is the instant gratification that they seek. 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.920 It's it's nothing's long term, that's nothing's planned out. They 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:02.160 just you know, they just need to have their satisfaction 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.400 when they need it. And it's and it's all about them, 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.280 and it's and and Rory knows this instinctively, if not, 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:14.200 you know, intellectually, And she just wasn't gonna play the game. 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.800 She knew exactly how to play Paris, she knew exactly 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:23.720 how that that was. That was amusing. But we've already 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:28.280 seen Rory. Uh correct deal with it in in a 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:32.240 similar way, so she's already it wasn't anything groundbreaking. There's 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:36.679 nothing left to figure out with Paris. There's nothing compelling 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:41.280 about Paris. I just found it amusing when the girls 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.960 are splitting up their fritos, which I thought, who thought 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.400 of that? So they're splitting up their fritos and here 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.080 comes Paris, just fishing, like you said, trying to get 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:54.360 them to ask for her scores. But there was such 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.880 a funny zimmer in there when they're taught. So before 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.520 Paris walks up, the two girls are talking about out 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.959 how the boy hasn't called her, and the one says, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:05.800 did you guys catch that one? The one says, well, 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.560 I thought we really connected in my closet the other day. 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.840 Didn't quite get that. So they're splitting the free us 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.840 and then Grory's just like okay, Paris like she's not 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.079 even sitting with them, doubt was your scores? And then 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.280 the whole thing like are you a person that gets 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.240 happy about sunset? Like I just thought, I actually thought 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:33.320 that was funny, right scoped For the first time I 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.800 felt paris Is anxiety. I was like, just tell her 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.439 the score, like I just was like, just tell her, 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.600 throw in her face, what did you think of your 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:46.960 your performance? I liked it my performance, Yeah, I don't know, 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:48.920 I don't I don't know that there was a lot 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:53.719 there to really comment on. I think, you know, sure, yeah, 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:57.280 I served serviced it okay, and it was fine. But 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.679 I just don't think there was a tremendous amount of 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.920 you know, there wasn't really an arc. I mean, he 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.880 served his purpose, he offered the money, was you know, 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.680 the good guy, the whole thing. But you know, again 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.480 we've seen it over and over again, and he kind of, 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.240 you know, he kind of gave up. The one thing 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:18.040 I did notice about that one scene outside when he 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.920 I'm under the porch right and when I'm under the porch, 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.360 is that he kind of gave up too quickly. I agree, 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:31.920 and I think it it for me, it minimized, um, 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.400 I don't know any potential relationship or the or the 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:38.160 depth of their friendship, And why couldn't she trust him 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.360 to take this? And I didn't quite understand that because 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.040 it was such an easy thing for him, and look, 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.200 hey it's not a big deal. But then this goes 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.880 back to laurelized pride and I think you make a 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.719 great point. I do agree that Luke. First of all, 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.680 I love that he comes to the rescue. I love 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.920 that he goes under her and can tell what's going on. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.040 And he's very manly, you know, and is just very cool, 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.400 and he's very good to her. And then you get 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:10.400 that glimpse of like Luke is successful. Like at first glance, 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.960 you're like, oh, he owns a diner. He's sort of 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:17.960 an average guy, blue collar, you might say, but he's 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:22.080 very successful, very smart, always can teach her about the 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.640 loans and the bank and this, and that I agree 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.720 with you. He should have. He should have stepped up 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:31.320 and said, lord, line, stop this nonsense, borrow the money 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:35.719 from me. This is what's happening. But yeah, and it 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.960 but it does go back to her pride, and I 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:42.760 get that, and you know she's really digging in and 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.840 wanting to do it herself. But I don't know. I 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:50.640 just again, you know, you're setting up Luke to suffer 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:54.280 in silence even more. Okay, he did his bid, he 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.080 did his bidding, he put in his bid, it got 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.520 rejected again, and and now he's, you know, assuming that 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:03.199 familiar roll of oh gosh, Okay, well I'll just suffer here. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.280 And and it's sort of a device where, you know, 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:10.880 the writing has to leave Laurel if vulnerable to to 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.920 battle it out on the icy flats with her mother, 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.360 yet guess, and that's what and that's what that was 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:23.199 another you know, here we go again with this, and 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.280 it just it just felt to me manufactured and contrived. 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.959 It didn't feel natural. It didn't feel you know. And 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.480 immediately Emily gets up and goes to the check book. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:35.480 Immediately there's conflict immediately, you know, and it's it's like 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.079 everything this woman tries to do for her, and I 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.679 think I just got tired of you know, I was 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.559 I was actually not shouting at the TV screen. I 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.319 don't talk to the TV screen. I'm not greaty in 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.079 that way. Um, but it's like, well, you let this 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.080 woman help you. She has actual good intentions and why 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:56.079 can't you see it? And it just it it made it. 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.439 It made me sad that their relationship was just so 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:06.120 completely in tatters still where they cannot communicate on an 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:10.080 adult level with with any kind of mutual trust. I mean, 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.079 I think Emily trust her, and I think Emily is 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:17.079 making far more of an effort to repair the damage 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.040 that was done. And I think she's taking responsibility for 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:24.400 her for her end in it, and and overcompensating and 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.840 trying to make up for it, and and Laurela is 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:31.200 just beating the stuffing out of her every chance she gets. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.400 And I'm just tired of seeing it. It's all. It 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.920 almost comes off like elder abuse. And I wanted to 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.320 stop doing it. I wanted to grow up. I want 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.920 to shake her and say, hey, you know, come on, 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:48.560 what happened? Right? It happened, you know? And and oh 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.640 my god, you know she's everybody's screwed up here. So 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.920 let's I don't know, I was. I just didn't want 0:14:54.920 --> 0:15:00.400 to see a battle, not during the holidays. No. Yeah, 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.640 So let me ask all of you this, what did 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:12.840 you think when Rory maybe overstepped and told Emily what 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:18.120 was going on? And did you think loyalized, very angry 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.880 reaction was too much? What did everybody think of sort 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:26.960 of that situation. I definitely thought it was too much 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.960 like loyalized reaction to Rory, because at the end of 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.800 the day, Rory wants help too, you know, like it's 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.560 their house, you know, she wants it to get fixed 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.480 and realizes that her family needs some help. So she's 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.560 gonna tell her grandma about it, you know, like it's 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:47.280 a very I think normal thing to do. Um. But yeah, 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.080 the way that lorea Ie reacted was she was projecting 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:54.840 on her own insecurities versus like what the actual situation was. Like, sorry, 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.000 Lorla that you don't want to ask your mom for help, 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:03.880 but Rory, can you know m hmm, Well, I thought, um, 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.000 you know, Laurel I made it a big deal right away. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.360 She woke her own daughter up in eleven o'clock at night. 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.520 Oh can you hear the termites munching? And it's horrible 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:16.120 and it's gross, and oh, let's get out of here. 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.840 And they she you know, she gets her up and 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.240 gets her dressed, and they have to walk to Suki's 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.960 and then and then you know, they start eating milkshakes 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.000 at Suki's and then that scene and then Jackson comes 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:31.960 out whatever with his pajamas. But um, which I fell 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.360 flat for me too. I didn't find that funny. Uh um. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.760 And so it's like it's Laurel I who made the 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:40.640 big deal out of it, and now she wants everybody 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.760 forget about it. And I can take care of this. Well, 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.880 if if you thought that you were gonna make if 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:48.360 you if you just wanted to take care of it 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.360 yourself and figured out all by yourself, why the hell 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.240 did you wake your daughter up at eleven o'clock at night, 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.280 get her up, get her to Suki's and you know, 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:56.920 you know this girl needs a rest. She's going to 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.560 this private school. She she can't be up and a 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.640 pee bowl and termites and you know, my my mom's upset. 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.280 You know, it's it's why do you how do you 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.400 do that to your child? And then sort of try 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.080 to downplay everything. It's like, listen to me, and of 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.040 course it's a big deal. Of course she's gonna say 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.440 to grandma, well, you know we have termites because my 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:16.919 mom won't be up in the middle of the night. 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:18.720 We you know, it's a big, big enough of rom 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.879 we're gonna lose our house. And my mom wanted to 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:22.959 get the hell out of the house before collapsed around us. 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.680 So I just didn't understand the logic of it, you know, 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.879 I didn't understand the logic of of of how Laurel 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.399 I was justifying all of these actions and behaviors. So 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.120 it was a little bit of a mystery to me. Yeah, 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.080 I think it's it's interesting because I agree that it's 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.240 it's putting a lot of even though lore Ly and 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.760 Rory had this very open relationship and they're very honest 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.680 and they know everything, that's a lot of anxiety, Like 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.200 we said, for a sixteen seventeen year old kids to 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.120 go like the house is falling apart and we don't 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.400 have any money. Right, So there were jokes like we'll 0:17:55.480 --> 0:18:00.560 never eat again, and you know, different little jokes. But 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:02.119 at the same time, as a kid, you'd be like, 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.840 am I have a place to live? Right? As she 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:09.520 traumatizes her kid, we have no money, We're broke. I 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.040 don't know what to do, but keep your mouth shut 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:14.960 and if you open your mouth, I'm gonna be piste off. 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.320 I just thought it was I just thought it was 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.879 Laurel I out of control, you know, not get it 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.719 that Laurel I said, don't ask grandma Grandpa, and then 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.920 Rory goes around her and brings it up. But you 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.800 know that money is not a lot for Emily and 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:34.680 richert It's like they want to help. Like you said, 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.119 I get where you're coming from. Like it would be easier. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:41.200 These people would all sort of forgive each other and 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.639 move on. Are they a family or aren't they? Does 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.040 Laurel I want her daughter to to to grow up 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.240 in a family or not? Does she want to be 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:53.520 the ringmaster her entire life and and and and control 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.840 the video or does she want her mom and dad 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.040 to be a part of a real part of Rory's life, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.480 which they are inevitable we anyway, And Rory obviously has 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.639 that trust of her grandparents. It's not like she just 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.720 thinks like, oh, they're rich, they'll give us the money. 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:14.200 It's like, that's my grandparents, they will help us. Interesting. So, okay, 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.680 so let me ask you all this from our perspective. 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.640 What should Lorala I have done? I guess I think 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.200 she should just borrow the money from Luke. But I 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.520 get why she didn't. What would you have liked to 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:31.080 have seen Lorela I do? No, that's good, right, I 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:34.240 think that's good. And then Luke gets involved, and then 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.840 there's sort of a conflict between Emily and Luke. Yeah, 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:41.440 and there's a chance for real comedy and you know, 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.920 but it but it widens the family somewhat. It it 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.560 brings the townspeople involved, and I mean, I mean, who knows. 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.399 You know, that's that's one possibility, Daniel, you were going 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.880 to say something, Yeah, No, I love that. I didn't 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.000 think about that, but I love that. I was gonna say, 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.480 I wish she just went to Emily because it would 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:03.200 have shown a little level of maturity and alive branch 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:07.040 per se, you know, like, all right, I'm treating you 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.600 like my mom now, you know, instead of like Laurel 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.720 I always been so I'm an independent woman like I 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.439 would have loved to see the vulnerability for a second 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:21.880 between Emily and Laura covered termites. It's not I don't 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.080 find out. Depends it depends on your policy. I guess 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:29.159 you have termiz in l A. I don't have to 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:31.440 termise where I am right now. But but another another 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:35.800 storyline could have been, you know, they Laura la goes 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:37.840 to her mother right away, They help out, and then 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:44.680 the conflict becomes Emily starts shopping for a new house 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:49.560 for Laurel. I totally and stars hollow or in Hartford. Well, 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:51.800 I was gets closer to Chilton, I thought, and you 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.000 were closer to us, And I know you love your 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.200 little town with all your your wild characters in there. 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.720 But I think now maybe it's time you get closer 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:03.040 to me and and Richard, and you know, we're getting older. 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.200 And it was just school. It was just school, the 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.399 whole thing. Yeah, So then and then that could have 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:10.399 caused all kinds of conflict between Laurela and myself and 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.119 you know we're gonna commute back and forth and you 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:15.160 know whatever, ye I'll never see at the diner again. 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.440 You know, there are a million ways you could have 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:21.600 gone about it, but I don't know, or go fund me, 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:26.919 I need take I don't know. She could have rented 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:28.760 out a room now, I do think the houses only 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.320 two bedroom stuff, So I guess not that I see 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:32.879 what you're saying, Like, we could play with this, and 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:35.840 there were other options, and the town could have come 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.120 together and raised the money for her, and it could 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.360 have been a big town celebration, and you know, Luke 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:43.199 could have led the way, or Taylor could have led 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:45.359 the way. You know, it would have been super surprising. 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.440 Emily could have been involved, and then it turns out 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:52.199 that Emily was really the ringmaster behind it, right right right, 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:55.000 oh mom, thank you? You know whatever, there's a million 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.159 ways it could have gone. It's just I don't know 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:03.240 it was. The banker was Larry Dallas from Three's Company. 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.320 He was great Richard Klein, you know right away. So 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:13.760 for those of you that are older threes Company that 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:17.120 was Jack Tripper's best friend, Richard Klein. He played Larry 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:21.080 Dallas and then he's the banker. And look, I like 0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:25.680 that scene too, because I liked Emily performed, you know, 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:29.359 I like the performance there where she's just sitting back 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:33.439 like okay, and then that is true, but bankers like, oh, 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:35.960 you want me to just tell you the truth? You 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:41.639 don't qualify for this loan by, but here's the soul. 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.199 It was almost like they were in Cahoon's. But at 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.119 the same time, the banker was like tell the truth, 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:52.920 like yeah, but it's and I don't like how, you know, 0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:57.640 you know, we're portraying. Emily's being portrayed as some kind 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:02.399 of underhanded connected with the banker, the evil banker, you know, 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:04.600 this kind of I mean, it's like Jesus, you know, 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.879 there was a level of maturity that I found lacking 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:12.160 in this script um and a level of naive tay 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:16.120 and I just thought it just lacked scope, It lacked size, 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:21.360 it lacked what Gilmore really can bring to bear um 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:26.760 with these gigantic life moments, with these with with these 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:30.159 that really resonate when you watch them, and it just 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:32.960 to me, it just all seemed like they were leaning 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:37.480 on you know, old tried and true, very thin kind 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:41.119 of methodology. Here. Let me ask you sort of inside 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:44.159 baseball question, when you have an episode like them, So 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:47.080 they write the episodes in order, right, like I would 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:49.040 assume they don't really write them out of work. So 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:51.320 when you have an episode like the brace Bridge Dinner 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:59.040 that's just huge, like brilliantly written, these intense scenes coursing 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:03.680 carriages going around the town, a big giant episode like 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.480 we would call it a sweeps episode, would it be 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.320 not that shocking that the following episode just can't live 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.920 up to that? Oh? Yeah, probably because I think there's 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:21.040