1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Michael Verishow is on the air, probably as good a 3 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: time as any for us to play maybe my all 4 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: time favorite Thanksgiving call. I have referenced this call over 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: the years since that time. Some of you will remember 6 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: the subject of the call, if not the name of 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: the caller. Her name was Julianne, and when she called in, 8 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: it was just going to be like any other call. 9 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: She talked about the fact that she's now married, her 10 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: son has grown up, but she went back to a 11 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: time where she was a single mom, her and her 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 1: son had no money. And well, I'll let her tell 13 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: you the story, but before it starts, I have to 14 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 1: tell you I didn't see where this story was going, 15 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: and it has turned out to be one of those 16 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: stories that I love as much as any call we've 17 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: ever received. And it's also I think one of the 18 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: reasons I play it is because some of you out 19 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: there might be where Julianne was at that time, and 20 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: I like to think that maybe this gives you the 21 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: hope to understand things can get better, and they will 22 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: get better. Julianne, Yes, sir, tell us about your odd 23 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: tradition on Thanksgiving. 24 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: Well, I raised two little boys all by myself. I 25 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: was a single parent. They're both they're nineteen and twenty now. 26 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: One goes to ut and one goes to Texas State. 27 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: They're doing great. 28 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: Good or night. 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: I raised them by myself, totally from infancy and Timon 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: really lean. 31 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: Where was their dad? 32 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: It's a long story, sir. I'd rather not get into 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: that part. 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: Was he alive and just not taking care of his business? 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: Yes, sir? 36 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Is he a bad person? 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: He's got some issues. 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: Is he still alive today? Yes, sir, Okay, do you 39 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: wish him ill? 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: No? I don't. I feel very bad for the man, 41 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: but that's neither here nor there. 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: You're a big. 43 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: Well. I took many years to get here, sir, believe me. 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: But they're both peace beyond understanding. We call that. Ramon, 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: What did you do? How'd you support those boys? 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: Well, initially I opened a little daycare and I took 47 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: in children because I didn't want them to go off 48 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: to daycare, so I took children in, and then I 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: also made burritos and tacos and drove around and sold 50 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: those out of my car. And then once they were 51 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: able to go to school, once I got them into 52 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: kindergarten and first grade. I worked in a little office 53 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: job and then I got lucky and met someone at 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: the pool, and I got into oil and gas and 55 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: now I'm a doctor, the controller. I have a great career. 56 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: Things just kind of progressed. God was good. 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: I wish you were right here beside me, because I 58 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: would give you a big hug. 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: Oh thank you. 60 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: I admire people like you, I really do. 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: My entire family lived in New Mexico, and their dad 62 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: would allow me to lead, and so it was just 63 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: the three of us. It was terrible, and one year 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: it was so bad we had sardines for Thanksgiving. That's 65 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: what we ate, sardines. So now every year for Thanksgiving, 66 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: I make sure that I have a beautiful plate and 67 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: I doll it up really pretty, and I make sure 68 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: I have sardines at our table so that we never 69 00:03:51,720 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: forget those when years. And that's my story. 70 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. We keep that one in the 71 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: archives and I always look forward at Thanksgiving to ramone 72 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: pulling it out and playing it again. And as I said, 73 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: I hope that helps somebody out there, if you're a 74 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: single mom or a single. 75 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: Dad, or. 76 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: You've hit a spell of bad luck. Maybe made some 77 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: bad decisions, lost your job, hit the bottle too hard, 78 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: got addicted to drugs, whatever it is, it's got you down. 79 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: I hope that call. I mean, things turned out well 80 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: for Julianne, but don't you couldn't have told her that 81 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: at the time. And so you know what I'm gonna do, Ramone, 82 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: I'm going to play at this moment one of my 83 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: favorite songs of redemption by the Reverend Donnie McClerkin from 84 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: the what was the Horror? Amityville Horror. His his church 85 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: is the Amityville Baptist Church. He is the pastor and 86 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: the song leader there. He's also a very very successful 87 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 1: gospel singer and a dear friend. But let's uh this, 88 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: this is a this is a segment of redemption. So 89 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: this is for any of you out there that have 90 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: been knocked out, knocked down, not knocked out, knocked down 91 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: to get back up. Oh my god, that's not what 92 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: I wanted. You know what. I hate you, I genuinely, deeply, 93 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: seriously hate you. Now play what I asked you to play. 94 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: Full Between we fall, but we we full between. 95 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: I'm a saying it's just a siner damn. 96 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: But we couldn't stay there, and God. 97 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 5: Saying that, Oh my busty, head back up, Hey, get 98 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 5: back up? 99 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: Aga, oh my mo. 100 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: Anyway, if we get back up again, there. 101 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: Say mister kiss. 102 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: We's a scene. 103 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: Oh, I guess we all. 104 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: But we can't stay there. There's a scene of righteousness 105 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: inside of it. 106 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: Oh, we say, Lord, if we get back up again. 107 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 5: We falled out sometime, but we get back up again. 108 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 4: Rise back, coming whim for. 109 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: Michael Barry wouldn't change it. 110 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: I had a system black, a too modern day Robin. 111 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: This segment is one of my favorites. And if you're 112 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: new to the show, you don't know what we're about 113 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: to do. And for some of you, this is going 114 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: to jog a memory that was deeply recessed, and it's 115 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: going to make you smile. When I went to law school, 116 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: there was a study done on what caused people, what 117 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: made people most likely to want to go to law school, 118 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: and the number two reason was your daddy was a lawyer. 119 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: My daddy wasn't a lawyer. I was part of the 120 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: number one reason that as a child they had read 121 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: to Kill a Mockingbird. Now, that was a unique period 122 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: of time. I went to law school in the early nineties. 123 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: But that particular book and the portrayal of a lawyer 124 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: as a person who takes on fights and you know, 125 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: joustset windmills and battles for people and provides a defense 126 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: to the defenseless. That was very appealing to people. And 127 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: it was it spurred and stirred such a passion in 128 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: so many people. Well, I will tell you that over 129 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: the years, I've had the same experience with people who 130 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: got into radio. And when you look at when I 131 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: asked people what got you into radio, and it is 132 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: more often than not this particular radio show, And when 133 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: you ask him which of that show was your absolute favorite, 134 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: it is this particular episode and it being Thanksgiving, we 135 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: roll it out every year and we never tire of 136 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: it because we believe in great tradition. Here you go, baby, 137 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: did you ever wonders? 138 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 6: Wondered? Whatever became of me? I'm living on the air 139 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 6: in Cincinnati, Cincinnati w k RD, got kind of guided 140 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 6: back in and done back in, down intown, up and down. 141 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 5: And die. 142 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 6: Maybe never being too just maybe think of me once 143 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 6: in a while on that WUK the Simsundi. 144 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: That wonderful television program was created by Hugh Wilson, who 145 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: later said that he based a lot of the episodes 146 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: around the actual events and characters of his time in radio. 147 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: He didn't work at WKRP in Cincinnati. He worked at 148 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: WQXI in Atlanta, but he created one of the greatest 149 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: TV scenes of all time. Referring to that turkey drop scene, 150 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: he said, it was at a shopping center in Atlanta. 151 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: I think it was Broadview Plaza, which no longer exists. 152 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: It was a Thanksgiving promotion. We thought we could throw 153 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: these live turkeys out into the crowd for their Thanksgiving dinners. 154 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: All of us nai, even uneducated, thought that turkeys could fly, 155 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: and remember, these are live turkeys. Of course they went 156 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: just splat. People were laughing at us, not with us, 157 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: but it became a legend. In reality, the turkeys were 158 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: thrown off the back of a truck, so based on that, 159 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: Hugh Wilson wrote the scene which came to be known 160 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: as the turkey Drop scene, which I would argue is, 161 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: if not the greatest scene in television history, certainly up 162 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: there a little bit of audio less nessman, that serious 163 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: silly newsman on WKRP, the Turkey Drop. 164 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 6: A culter seems to be circling the parking area. Now, 165 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 6: I guess it's looking for a place to land. No, 166 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 6: something just came out of the back of the helicopter. 167 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 6: It's a dark object or he's a skydiver lumming to 168 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 6: to the earth. I'm only two thousand feet in the air. 169 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 6: There's no curshue yet yet. 170 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: The skydivers. 171 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 6: I can't not just yet what they are. 172 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: But oh my god, they're talking. 173 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: They're crushing to the earth. 174 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 6: Run longer to win? 175 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 5: Your car's running around pushing each other. 176 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, Oh but you wanted to. 177 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: Winning a bombs of the turkeys are hitting the ground 178 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: like sense of wetsuits say. 179 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 6: I don't know how much longer, but the trot is 180 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 6: running for their lives. I think I go to step 181 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 6: in sight. 182 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: I can't stay out here and watch the city. 183 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 6: As you know, I can't go in there, mothers, And 184 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 6: oh the tragedy hasn't been anything like this. 185 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how much longer I can hold my 186 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: division here Johnny the. 187 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 6: Court, last, last are you there? 188 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 4: Less isn't there? 189 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for that on the spot report last just tuned 190 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: in the Pinedale Shopping Mall has just been bombed with 191 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: ke tell them at eleven. You know, when I think back, 192 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: and that was a different person as you were too. 193 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: But when I think back to seventies television, which would 194 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: probably be my favorite, followed by eighties television, I've told 195 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: you the nineties was a lost decade for me because 196 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: between college and law school and my first job and 197 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: starting a company, I didn't watch any television. Was there 198 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: a social message to seventies and eighties television? Sure there 199 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: was Good Times or the Waltons or Archie Bunker, but 200 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: mostly it was just entertainment as entertainment, and the fact 201 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: that the people who got into screenwriting and scriptwriting and 202 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: production lost sight of that it is entertainment and decided 203 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: that they were instead members of a cult trying to 204 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: convince people of their silly ways. When you consider the 205 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: effect that has has had, when you consider the effect 206 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: that that has, how that has changed our entertainment. Look 207 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: at how people look at football differently, the taking of 208 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: the knee, that's changed it forever for me. Look at 209 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: how music and musicians and actors, it's changed all of it, 210 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: maybe in a good way, because you know what, in 211 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: many ways, I guess what I'm trying to say, and 212 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm fumbling around, is that it entertainment should be about entertainment, 213 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: and when it stops being about entertainment, it turns us off. 214 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: And maybe it's better because I don't spend my weekends 215 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: watching football. I don't spend my time watching network television anymore, 216 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: and I fill my time with things that are more 217 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: productive and fulfilling and rewarding and meaningful. So maybe I 218 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: guess you could say they did me a face job. 219 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: Don't you use that tone to me? Not a joke. 220 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: That's sarcastic, contemptuous tone that means you know everything because 221 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: you're a man, and I know nothing because I'm a woman. 222 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: That is not a joke. That is a natural fact, Michael. 223 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: My grandmother was fond of oraville red and boker popcorn, 224 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: and therefore so was I. And then it just got 225 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: better and better and better. How many days a year, 226 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,239 Speaker 1: how many times a year do you think you consume popcorn? 227 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: Pour that's probably mine too. Popcorn is the sort of 228 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: thing that I literally never intend to eat. I've already eaten, 229 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: and I'm somewhere that popcorn is present, and I smell it, 230 00:15:53,840 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: and someone says, hey, would you would you like some popcorn? 231 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: And I eat it, and then I eat way too much, 232 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: and I feel disgusting and I don't know, I don't 233 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: know what else to do about it. Yeah, and then 234 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: and then I wish I hadn't eaten popcorn. And it 235 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: leaves me with a bad feeling, especially if you get 236 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: it from a movie theater, because they put too much 237 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: butter on it. What other food do I shovel in 238 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: my mouth? Let me come back to that, because I 239 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: want to talk about thanks forving for a second, since 240 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: this is our Thanksgiving edition. If there's something I can 241 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: get through to you today, for this weekend, and some 242 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: of you are gonna be off, you're gonna be traveling 243 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: over the next few days. It is this. A democratic 244 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: republic is not a set it and forget it, ron 245 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: pop peel. You don't get to do it and walk 246 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: away from it. It is a labor of love. You 247 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: know what. When I got my first carbs in nineteen 248 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: seventy nine, Swaggen Rabbit, it had one hundred and fifty 249 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it. And when I got it, my 250 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: dad said, well, you'll own a car for the rest 251 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: of your life, and it will be nothing but a 252 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: problem for the rest of your life. And I remember thinking, more, Dan, 253 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm kind of fired up about my little Volkswaghian rabbit. 254 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: Why you gotta make it seem like that? When I 255 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: got my first house, he said, a house is a 256 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: constant need because he's a maintenance man, right, A house 257 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: is a constant need for maintenance and work. You will have, 258 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: you will you will never get to relax again. And 259 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: I remember thinking, well, Dad, but that wasn't he wasn't 260 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,239 Speaker 1: depressed about that. That was him giving fatherly advice. And 261 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like, you know, that's what Ben 262 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: Franklin said when asked, you know, mister Franklin, is it 263 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: a monarchy or a republic? And he said a republic 264 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: if you can keep it, because he understood that they 265 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: had just written the bylaws for a document that would 266 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: require the public's constant attention and care and good decision making. 267 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: It's much easier to have a monarchy. And I think 268 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: many people, even in America today, without understanding what they're doing, 269 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: would like a benevolent dictatorship because they don't want to 270 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: have to fool with it. They don't want to have 271 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: to be adult. They don't want to have to make decisions. 272 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: They don't want to have to discern between one candidate 273 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: and the other, one plan and the other. They don't 274 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: want to have to keep up with what are the 275 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: effects of raising interest rates or raising the minimum wage, 276 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: or lowering interest rates or sending all your money to 277 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: Ukraine or sending missiles to Ukraine. They don't want to 278 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: do that. But one of the things we have to 279 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: do is we have to preserve our traditions because they don't. 280 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: And we can't sit around and say, well, the TV's 281 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: not doing it, and the school's not doing it, and 282 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: this person's not doing it. You've got to do it. 283 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: So I went to a history site very simple to 284 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: help you out, and this is what you have to share. 285 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: Print out the meaning of Thanksgiving this Thanksgiving and just say, hey, guy, 286 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: I know it's kind of old fashioned, but I'm feeling 287 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: pretty good Trump one, I'm feeling good about American and 288 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: I want to start a new tradition. I would like 289 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: to read and just y'all give me sixty seconds. I 290 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: would like to read the history of Thanksgiving, and history 291 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: dot com has one the easiest one. There's more in depth, 292 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: and it goes like this. Thanksgiving Day is a national 293 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: holiday in the United States and in twenty twenty four 294 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: falls on Thursday, November twenty eighth. In sixteen twenty one, 295 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: the Plymouth colonists from England and the Native American Wampoaga 296 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: one Podnoag people shared an autumn harvest feast that is 297 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: acknowledged as one of the first Thanksgiving celebrations in the colonies. 298 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: For more than two centuries, days of Thanksgiving were celebrated 299 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: by individual colonies and states. It wasn't until eighteen sixty three, 300 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: in the midst of the Civil War, that President Abraham 301 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: Lincoln proclaimed a national Thanksgiving Day to be held each November. 302 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: But the holiday is not without controversy. Many Americans, including 303 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: people of Native American ancestry, believe Thanksgiving celebrations might mask 304 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: the true history of oppression and bloodshed that underlies the 305 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: relationship between European settlers and Native Americans. These same people, 306 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: who even if they are a direct descendant, have no 307 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: problem with their great grandfather having murdered other tribes to 308 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: take hold of the land, don't want the same done 309 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: to them. And that's the reality of it all. The 310 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: history of humanity is one of conflict and defies that tradition. 311 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: So as you sit on your iPhone, having gone to 312 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: schools and universities under a scholarship for being Native American, 313 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: maybe give thanks that you have air conditioning and steel 314 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 1: belted radial tires and a roof over your head and 315 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: airplanes to fly around in. Because the advancements that occurred 316 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: on American soil after those evil, awful white men came 317 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: to town are being enjoyed by you to an extent 318 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: that almost seems like you halfway enjoy them. Now back 319 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: to the point. The beauty of this tradition, if you 320 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: heard what I said, is it began in sixteen twenty one. 321 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: It began almost an entire century and a half before 322 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: we declared our independence from England. It was not for 323 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: two hundred years that it became an official holiday, but 324 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: it was continuously observed. It's older than America, and distinctly America. 325 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: Now that's beautiful, but that means our time together is 326 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: drawing to a close for this week. For all of 327 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: our new listeners, welcome to the program. Our show is 328 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: quite different than everything else on the radio. That doesn't 329 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: mean that we're better by any means. It doesn't mean 330 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: we think we're better by any means. We're not intentionally 331 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: different than so many other shows. We're just intentionally true 332 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: to ourselves and the show we enjoy doing. And after 333 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: almost twenty years of doing this, we've come to the 334 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: conclusion that if we do the show that we love doing, 335 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: then we'll wake up every morning eager to do it, 336 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: and surely that has to come through the airwaves and 337 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 1: in time. While a lot of people won't dig it, 338 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: which is okay, those that do will hang around because 339 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: it will be quite different than anything else. We're going 340 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: to use more songs and more sound, and you'll come 341 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: to find out once we get further and further from 342 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: the election, we're gonna be silly and we're gonna make 343 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: some jokes that are gonna make you cringe. That's the 344 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: point of it. If you listen to Norm MacDonald doing 345 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: the Weekend Update and you had to turn it off, 346 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: then we're going to be a tough, tough cookie for 347 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: you to crumble, because we enjoy engaging and challenging to 348 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: the point that you even sometimes wonder if it's okay 349 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: to laugh or to agree with that. We're going to 350 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: talk about race. We're going to talk about sex, by 351 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 1: which I mean male and female. And gender is how 352 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: you refer to nouns, not human beings. It's a silly 353 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: term to avoid, a term that makes people uncomfortable. When 354 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: I was growing up and you would fill out a document, 355 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: it would ask what your sex is, and yes, you 356 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: giggled because you were a kid. You can still giggle 357 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: today because it's funny. These are things we should never 358 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: stop giggling. But sex was a reference to male or female, 359 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: boy or girl. And I don't care if that dude 360 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: that got elected that claims he's a girl is a girl. 361 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 1: To their credit, they're not letting him go in the 362 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: girl's bathroom because there shall be no boys in the 363 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: girl's bathroom, even if those boys claim that they're a girl. 364 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: It's just that simple. Now, if he wants to go 365 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: in there and sit on the pot, he can do that. 366 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: If he's wearing high heels when he does, he. 367 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 4: Can do that. 368 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: You probably didn't know they already have a gender neutral bathroom. 369 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: It's the silliest thing I've ever heard. One of my 370 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: friends suggested that rand Paul should call for a filibuster 371 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: just to get a just to make it so that 372 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 1: that dude's beard starts filling in somewhere along the way. Listen, 373 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: if you want to be weird, you want to be different. 374 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm a libertarian at heart. I am. I don't want 375 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: by kicking your door down. Go be weird on your own, 376 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: living on your own, in your own living room, Go 377 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: be weird as you want. I really don't. I am 378 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: way more libertarian than most people I know, and I 379 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: don't waste a lot of time on silly things. Well, Michael, 380 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: you're against abortion. I am because abortion is not a 381 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: political issue. 382 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: To me. 383 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: Life begins at conception. You might not like that because 384 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: at times it's inconvenient, but you know, a lot of 385 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: things are inconvenient. Having cancer is inconvenient, but you can't 386 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: just declare it doesn't exist. Raising children's very inconvenient. 387 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 3: It's hard work. 388 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: That's what nobody tells you. It's hard. It's absolutely difficult. 389 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: You know what else is inconvenient and difficult Taking care 390 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: of elderly parents and being patient and talking to them 391 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: on the farm if you're not near them, and being 392 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: there with them if you're able to. When people email 393 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: me and say I retired early so I could take 394 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: care of my mom and dad, or so I can't 395 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: take care of my dad or my mom. Man, my 396 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: heart goes out to them. I understand what that means. 397 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: I watched my mom slowly, painfully die. It's a brutal, 398 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: brutal thing. And my dad's eighty four and his health 399 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: is not great. It's time. And you know what, Sometimes 400 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 1: you don't want to talk to those old people. Sometimes 401 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: you don't want to hear about the doctor's appointment. Sometimes 402 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to hear the grumpy. Sometimes you don't 403 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: want to hear about the bodily functions that now are 404 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: the lifeblood of their conversation and the seeming occupation of 405 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: their existence. It happens, But these are the things we're 406 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: put on this earth to do. And just because a 407 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: birth or a conception is inconvenient doesn't mean it is 408 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: okay to end it. And just because the elderly or 409 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: inconvenient doesn't mean it's okay to turn our backs on them, 410 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: because those are the things that make us human, Not 411 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: that damned iPhone, Not how many messages you can respond 412 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: to or how much doom scrolling you can do on 413 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: the social media sites. Those aren't the things that we 414 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: are alive for. Those aren't the measures of our magnificence. 415 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: Those are things we do to distract us from the 416 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: difficulties of our endeavors, our struggles. But it's our struggles 417 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: that make us human. And I hope you'll remember that 418 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: over the coming week, because there's a very good chance 419 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: there's a very good chance that you're going to have 420 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: to patch up relations with someone in your family at 421 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving this year. There's a very good chance that you're 422 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: going to have to spend more time with a loved 423 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: one than maybe you'd like to. There's a very good 424 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: chance that your patience is going to be tried. Just 425 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: remember this, You can't control the actions of that other person. 426 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: Let them go, Let them go. You're never going to 427 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: convince them. Let them go, either avoid them altogether, or 428 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: if you must be there, simply laugh. I laugh when 429 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: people insult me, and it gives them to almost almost exclusively. 430 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: Two responses. One is, this dude is crazy, and when 431 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: you're crazy, it scares people, and I am crazy. Number two, 432 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: this dude can't be touched. I can't lay a glove 433 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: on it. I have attempted to wound him and I haven't. 434 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: But that's something I control, nobody else controls it. I 435 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: don't talk politics off the air. I don't try to 436 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: convince people. Somebody say, you got to talk to my wife. 437 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: Here she is. 438 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: We talked to my wife, she's a liberal. No, I won't. 439 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: I won't. We'll talk about recipes, we talk about travel. 440 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to convince her because she 441 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: arrived at this point after a whole lot of things 442 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: have happened. She probably doesn't know anything about politics. She 443 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: thinks she does. She's still angry her dad left her, 444 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: or her first boyfriend dumped her, or whatever else. She's 445 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: still sad that her career didn't measure up to what 446 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: she wanted to be, or she didn't get to date, 447 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: she didn't get to marry the boy she wanted to, 448 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: and that guy went off to be famous. I'm not 449 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: here to fix her. I'm here to fix me. I'm 450 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: here to live the best life I can and be 451 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: here for the people that I love. So if we 452 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: don't get to talk to you for the next week 453 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: because you're off for Thanksgiving, I just want you to 454 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: know I give thanks for you and everything you've done 455 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: to take back this country,