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Speaker 3: It's funny, like those are the types make up play

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Speaker 3: Terry Glenn? What are we doing?

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Speaker 4: I can play on the ball.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows what you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Just through showing Aaron Glenn highways on NFL Network.

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Speaker 3: Did you know Aaron Glenn was the coach of the Jets.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know it's true or not, but it is.

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Speaker 4: Hates everybody and everything in the.

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Speaker 5: League, especially the seventies Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, everybody and everything.

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Speaker 3: Way to get me started on the seventy Steelers. I

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Speaker 3: heard the ball boy got into the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame on the seventies Steelers. It's true, you know us,

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Speaker 3: we're we're trying to you know, the Patriots dynasty. It's

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Speaker 3: like trying to pull teeth. But you know, I heard

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Speaker 3: the third string long snapper and the seventy Steelers in the.

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Speaker 5: Pro Football and the waterboy on the Steelers had like

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Speaker 5: a six gallon jug. He was just walking down with

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Speaker 5: one armhold da.

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Speaker 2: He's got a bust and can You're right, too many

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Speaker 2: Steelers got in at that time.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why would you care to elaborate?

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Speaker 2: No, I just think there was which one, A lot

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Speaker 2: of follow them, A lot of them.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was getting at them.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 2: at Gillette Stadium. It's a busy stadium. They're getting ready

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Speaker 2: for the ac DC concert. So if you hear any

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Speaker 2: like wow uh during the show, that's the guy in

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Speaker 2: the shorts wrong around. Yeah, but it's deuce to me.

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Speaker 2: Paul and Evan will be by soon as well as Alex.

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Speaker 2: Drake May is talking to the media as we speak,

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Speaker 2: so Evan's taking that in. Paul is in waiting for

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Speaker 2: one of his college coaches draft pick Stories to call him,

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Speaker 2: and Alex will be here as well. Yeah. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: just me and you for a few moments.

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Speaker 5: Two of us. We can make it if we try.

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Speaker 5: Let's get to yeah, you and I, uh yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: just real quick. Paul's waiting for his interviews is what

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Speaker 5: we do after they draft these guys and finishing up

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Speaker 5: my Kyle Williams story. Had some good conversations with his

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Speaker 5: he said, is Kyle Williams a favorite player to study

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Speaker 5: all the coaches echoed what everybody said around here. Fred

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's cool.

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Speaker 2: We've already got people calling in. Yeah, so why don't

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Speaker 2: Mark in Connecticut to lead things off what's up Mark?

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Speaker 2: How you guys doing marking?

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Speaker 2: Here comes Paul.

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Speaker 2: Get your call. You got blown off? Oh man? Okay,

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Speaker 7: So my one gripe about the draft. We have two

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Speaker 2: I think he was on my envelope. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Thanks Mark, appreciate the call. Paul.

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Speaker 4: While you were gone, I I was listening a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Joe Cardonay you were there, and you did. You made

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Speaker 9: All right? So with the draft coming and going, you know,

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Speaker 2: He watches a lot of college.

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Speaker 4: But he was terrific his last year at BYU. Is

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying now. I was not a huge Zach

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not pretending that I was huge on Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 2: I think, Mitch, what you're seeing is, you know, I

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Speaker 2: have to call it desperation. There's so few people on

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Speaker 5: There you go, match, I.

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Speaker 9: Just thought, for the first time last year, Evan totally.

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Speaker 4: Wrong, Mitch, Mitch Chef's kiss my friend. That was excellent.

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Speaker 4: I'll send you a picture of the ole Jaws totally

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course it does.

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Speaker 4: I love it. Mitch.

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Speaker 5: If I can just piggyback on when you guys were saying,

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Speaker 4: And I know this is probably an unpopular take, but

438
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Speaker 4: in some ways I sort of I respect what the

439
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Speaker 4: league did this year. Yeah, me too, with the situation.

440
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Speaker 4: They didn't allow themselves to be the next in line

441
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Speaker 4: for a guy they weren't sold on. That doesn't mean

442
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Speaker 4: Shedus Sanders or Quinn Yours or any of these guys

443
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Speaker 4: that got drafted well after they expected to be won't

444
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Speaker 4: be good players. Maybe they will be, But for whatever reason,

445
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Speaker 4: the Browns, the Giants, and the Saints and the steel

446
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Speaker 4: they weren't sold on the skills, so they didn't force it,

447
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Speaker 4: and they they they let it, you know, they let

448
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Speaker 4: it play out. I think if more teams did that,

449
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 4: I think you'd be better off. But I think mac

450
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Speaker 4: Jones and that in that draft that you're talking about,

451
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Speaker 4: is probably the only one of those five guys that

452
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Speaker 4: failed because I don't think he quite had the skill

453
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Speaker 4: set necessary. But justin fields, I mean, I think he's

454
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Speaker 4: talented enough. He just hasn't quite put it all together.

455
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Speaker 5: Hopefully it doesn't.

456
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, that's that's true. But you know, like

457
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Speaker 4: my point, like I think there's a difference between Zach

458
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Speaker 4: Wilson failing and Mac mac Jones failing. I think that's

459
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Speaker 4: two entirely different reasons.

460
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Speaker 7: Right.

461
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Speaker 5: There's enough like random hits. You know, everyone loves to

462
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Speaker 5: play the hits, like Dak Prescott and I mean Brady's Brady.

463
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Speaker 5: But you know the later round guys where you realize

464
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Speaker 5: there are guys who fall through the cracks and there

465
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Speaker 5: are guys that on paper, maybe it doesn't line up

466
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Speaker 5: that they're going to be a legit starting quarterback in

467
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Speaker 5: this league that can win important games. So you know,

468
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Speaker 5: I totally agree that's and that's the reason why I

469
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Speaker 5: made the bet with you on Shador. It's just I

470
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Speaker 5: thought the NFL is afraid and these teams there's only

471
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Speaker 5: so many options that you can take that you actually

472
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Speaker 5: can sell.

473
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Speaker 4: It wasn't a terrible bet that you made, because so

474
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Speaker 4: often that's what happens. Now, guy ends up getting taken

475
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Speaker 4: before he probably should because he's a quarterback.

476
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Speaker 2: Do you think there's a world in which Tim Tebow

477
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Speaker 2: could have succeeded as a quarterback?

478
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Speaker 5: I just keep thinking that that that clip of him

479
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Speaker 5: for the like I threw the football better than him.

480
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Speaker 5: I just I still don't quite understand how you can

481
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Speaker 5: be that bad and still get drafted in the first round.

482
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Speaker 4: Like, because I'll be an you, like I I can't

483
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Speaker 4: quite understand how he was able to win any games

484
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Speaker 4: that he did, you know, that little stretch of tebow

485
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Speaker 4: Mania there and whatever it was eleven Yeah.

486
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Speaker 2: The throw against Pittsburgh and the playoffs.

487
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I can't believe like he came hearing it

488
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Speaker 4: having a complete inability to complete a forward pass and

489
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Speaker 4: he was able to like throw an eighty yard touchdown

490
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Speaker 4: at overtime. One, Like, I give him a little. It's testimate,

491
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Speaker 4: it's a testament to his just his character, his winner,

492
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Speaker 4: you know, quotient and all that. But yeah, no, I'm

493
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Speaker 4: not I don't think.

494
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Speaker 2: I'm just wonder.

495
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Speaker 4: I don't think he could have figured that if you were.

496
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Speaker 2: Willing to completely transform your offense to be a Tim

497
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Speaker 2: Tebow type offense where the Ravens right, well, they did

498
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Speaker 2: you think they tried to?

499
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Speaker 4: They did. They ran all that stuff, they ran the

500
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Speaker 4: zone reads and and all that stuff, and that you

501
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Speaker 4: remember that that's the game I was talking about a

502
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Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, Mike the the one game at

503
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Speaker 4: Denver with Tebow, and they killed they killed the Patriots.

504
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Speaker 4: It was like they were up like sixteen to seven.

505
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Speaker 4: They scored the first three times they had the ball,

506
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Speaker 4: two touchdowns in a field goal, they missed one of

507
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Speaker 4: the extra points sixteen to seven right out of the shoot,

508
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Speaker 4: and then Bill went to the sideline, started to just

509
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Speaker 4: do your job, you know, made a couple of adjustments.

510
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Speaker 4: They completely shut it down. But that was that was

511
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Speaker 4: a gimmick offense. That was a you know, why did

512
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Speaker 4: they bring him here?

513
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Speaker 2: Good questions?

514
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Speaker 4: So I think it had I don't know, I mean,

515
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Speaker 4: I think it had something to do with Josh's affinity

516
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Speaker 4: for him, you know, he kind of wanted that kind

517
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Speaker 4: of guy. And I think Bill had that in his head, like,

518
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Speaker 4: you know, one.

519
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Speaker 5: Can do what he can do and maybe I mean,

520
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Speaker 5: do you think they had on him playing quarterback or

521
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Speaker 5: was that to feel it out and see if we

522
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Speaker 5: can from somewhere else.

523
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Speaker 4: No, it was quarterback. He played quarterback, you know in

524
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Speaker 4: training camp, unless they were doing something like in the

525
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Speaker 4: bubble when we weren't around or something like.

526
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Speaker 2: I think there was a hidden agenda. Well, we'll let

527
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Speaker 2: him have a shot, and when he realizes he can't

528
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Speaker 2: do it, we're going to convert him to another position.

529
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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe you know, maybe and maybe he pushed back

530
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Speaker 4: and then he pushed he pushed back on it. That's

531
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Speaker 4: that's not a bad theory for.

532
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but it's a good

533
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Speaker 2: question like why.

534
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Speaker 4: Yeah, bring him here, you know, And it was I mean, Mike,

535
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Speaker 4: good guy.

536
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Speaker 5: I know you guys have said it.

537
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Speaker 4: Good kid, Like he killed more worms in that training can't.

538
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Speaker 5: But like for Bill at that point, wanting to avoid

539
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Speaker 5: any distraction that he can is it the jewe was

540
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Speaker 5: the juice worth the squeeze.

541
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Speaker 4: It's almost like he was sort of hypocritical in some

542
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Speaker 4: of the things he said and did, almost like that.

543
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Speaker 2: But he's an example of all it takes is one

544
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: All it takes is one scout or head coach or

545
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Speaker 2: GM to like you and you're a quarterback, and it

546
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Speaker 2: would be.

547
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Speaker 5: A great Josh truth serum question in the first round.

548
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Speaker 5: What's up?

549
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Speaker 4: We see? In terms, there's there's a lot. You know,

550
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Speaker 4: Mitch just brought up like quarterbacks that did whatever in

551
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Speaker 4: college and then didn't pan out on the pros. I'm

552
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Speaker 4: not talking about guys that just you know, they were

553
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Speaker 4: they went, they played in college, and then they went

554
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Speaker 4: to the pros and they had sort of average careers.

555
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Speaker 4: I can't think of a guy who is a better

556
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Speaker 4: college player and a worse pro than TV right right,

557
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Speaker 4: That's why it seems impossible. He he is on I

558
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 4: don't care how many you do. He's on a very

559
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 4: short list of the greatest college football players of all time.

560
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Speaker 2: Five yeah, yeah, ten national titles.

561
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Speaker 4: But I mean just the ultimate winner, the ultimate performer

562
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Speaker 4: in the clutch, like and he couldn't do anything in

563
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Speaker 4: the pros.

564
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Speaker 5: Like the increase in the ball size that that three

565
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Speaker 5: maybe maybe honestly yeah, but even still like I mean,

566
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Speaker 5: you know, I have like an NFL sized ball and

567
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 5: a college size ball. We threw a wrest of it.

568
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Speaker 5: I mean this is different.

569
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Speaker 4: It's different that the NFL is longer and the college

570
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: one is shorter and fatter. It's about the girth.

571
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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Ques in Atlanta, what's up?

572
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Speaker 4: Q Hey?

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Speaker 10: I got three quick thing. First of all, I like

574
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Speaker 10: everything that this new vision has done, except when they

575
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Speaker 10: have decided to release new players. So I wish I

576
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 10: would to give you the veteran players. I wish they

577
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Speaker 10: were the game.

578
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Speaker 7: Cardona.

579
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Speaker 10: I was able to release them at the beginning of

580
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Speaker 10: the year so they could have had a chance to

581
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Speaker 10: find on elsewhere. Speaking in this new regime, how can

582
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 10: we haven't hurt from Torrell Woodie year? We hurt from

583
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Speaker 10: everybody accepting me. I'm just make sure everything is okay

584
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 10: with him, you know, yep, because I don't know we got.

585
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Speaker 7: To hurt from them.

586
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Speaker 10: And my last thing is on the wide receiver. Everybody

587
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 10: is so quick to push a folk movie and they

588
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 10: through out the door. But with a Kennick Bourne and

589
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Speaker 10: in step On Diby and we have one good year

590
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Speaker 10: left and those other guys Wouldever, when you get rid

591
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Speaker 10: of they go and have eight good years. I think

592
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Speaker 10: that would be a mist So I don't think he

593
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Speaker 10: should push them out the door so quick. But bring

594
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Speaker 10: me to my last point. Do you think this new

595
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Speaker 10: regime will have the Foxville flu like.

596
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Speaker 2: Filding Thanks Foxborough flu?

597
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 10: Yeah?

598
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Speaker 2: I mean they could put some guys on the shelf,

599
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Speaker 2: you know.

600
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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I mean I don't Tryll Williams, I don't know.

601
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Speaker 5: I was scheduled to speak a couple of weeks ago

602
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Speaker 5: and he didn't. But other than that, I don't know

603
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Speaker 5: anything about it.

604
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Speaker 4: He was he was out of town. Yeah at the time.

605
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Speaker 4: I don't know, you know why. I don't know what

606
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 4: came up. But I don't know. I haven't heard anything

607
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 4: about any problems, no like that. And I mean I

608
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: agree a lot of people have talked about Born being

609
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Speaker 4: the guy out too.

610
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't really care. I'm not pushing anybody

611
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 5: out the door, like. I just want all these guys

612
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 5: to compete and may the best man win. I don't

613
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 5: care who it is of this group. I mean, I

614
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 5: have a little bit of hope still for Jalen Polk

615
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 5: and even a little bit for Jaymon Baker. But to me,

616
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 5: let the best man emerge. And I just I think

617
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 5: there's some uncertainty with Stefon Diggs and how soon is

618
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 5: he going to be ready and you have to factor

619
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Speaker 5: that into your wide receiver.

620
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Speaker 2: He may not be available right away.

621
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Speaker 4: But you're nailing it like it's survival with the fittest.

622
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 4: Whoever deserves to stay will stay.

623
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And on the vets, I would just say, sometimes

624
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 5: you need to get a look at these guys. You

625
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 5: got to get a sense of what direction they're headed,

626
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 5: Are they healthy? You know, it's not just I mean,

627
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 5: I think it would have been a worse look to

628
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 5: just first day a free agency or whatever just blanket

629
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Speaker 5: cut you know, all these vets. I mean, I think

630
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 5: it's it's not that simple. It's a feeling out process

631
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 5: and understanding where guys are at and what direction we

632
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 5: want to go. And now that raft comes together and

633
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 5: you say, do I like somebody? You know, those those

634
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 5: kind of things. But I always just go back to competition.

635
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 5: I think that's ultimately what it should always be about,

636
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 5: and what it is about.

637
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: They're trying to bring about the best or the worst

638
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: in people.

639
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Speaker 4: And I understand that line of thought too, Like you

640
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: know with veterans, you know, can you let them go

641
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 4: a little bit earlier, maybe give them a chance to snip.

642
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 4: But I mean it's I think they're all case by case,

643
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 4: and I think you're right, Like you drafted a long snapper,

644
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 4: so now you feel like you're comfortable enough to make

645
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 4: a move and just.

646
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 5: Pick it, like you know, off of what Fred laid

647
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 5: out with Joe Cardona coming to talk to us, and

648
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 5: you know that emotional like it's never easier time for

649
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 5: the player, like it's always going to stink. You just

650
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 5: have to do what's best for the team. I know

651
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 5: that's a cliche, but I do think that that's how

652
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 5: you have to run your football team. You have to

653
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 5: look at it without the emotion and you have to

654
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 5: say what is best for us, what guys are trending up?

655
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 5: You know which guys are going to fit what we want.

656
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: To do, and you can't like, yes, they are people,

657
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: but you there's also the business side of it. You

658
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: have to do what's best for the team. And you know,

659
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: I go ive been watching that Celtic City. I finished

660
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: that you haven't that last year and they interviewed Danny Ainge,

661
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: you know, several times throughout and at once, you know,

662
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: he's talking about his management style, and he's like, I

663
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: don't care. I don't care about the criticism. I don't

664
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: care what people think about the moves I make. I

665
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: don't care, you know, I just do what I think

666
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: is the best thing to do.

667
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: You know.

668
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: So he lived through when Red waited too long.

669
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 10: You know.

670
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: So a lot of people think with the Big Three,

671
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: he kind of left him on the team and didn't

672
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: use them to make the team younger and better.

673
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 11: And Danny Ainge was the opposite. He didn't want to

674
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 11: do that with the teams that he ran. Like he said,

675
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 11: I don't care.

676
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 5: I just don't know how you could do that job

677
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 5: if you're listening to what the people on talk radio

678
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 5: or what the scribes are writing, or you know you

679
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: I mean Bill for his faults, like no one was

680
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 5: better at this is what I'm doing. I believe this

681
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 5: is how we're going to make the team. And I

682
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 5: don't care what anybody else says, And I just I

683
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 5: think ultimately that's how you have to be if you're

684
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 5: trying to chase narratives or trying to make everybody happy.

685
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 5: It's a really hard job coaching any team. Like I mean,

686
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 5: we've we've been talking about it all morning with JV Sports,

687
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 5: But I mean, I have so much respect for coaches

688
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 5: of all. It's so hard to manage kids and manage people.

689
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 5: And unfortunately, when we sign up for this, you know,

690
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 5: this isn't forever, and it could end abruptly, whether it's

691
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 5: an injury, whether you get cut, you know, whatever it

692
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 5: might be, whether you get traded.

693
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: I remember in three when they get rid of Maloy,

694
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, and that was a contract thing,

695
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: but I was like, what, you know, how can they

696
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: do that? And I happen to run into the owner

697
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: and I said I need a pep talk. I said, like, wow,

698
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: Fred did the peon? Said Pepton. He said to me,

699
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: don't worry. We're in this for the long run. And

700
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: then you go to Buffalo and you get waxed. Was

701
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: it thirty one nothing or whatever. I'm like, well, maybe

702
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: we're in there for the long run, but the short

703
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: one really sucks. But eventually it all played out and

704
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: the rest is history.

705
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 5: Such an interesting game in hindsight, it was so anti narrative.

706
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 5: It's like one of those games where all, of course.

707
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 4: That's it.

708
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 5: They're gonna fall apart, they're gonna stink, they're gonna be

709
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 5: terrible the whole time. And you know you saw that

710
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 5: team come together and rally.

711
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, hello, children, Hey, what's going on? They are the

712
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: gang's all here. You couldn't get in through that door.

713
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 4: No, no, and not in this door here. So that's

714
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 4: what I said, But I listened to.

715
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: Wait an you know there's a door here. No, that's

716
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: not the green room. The green room is the next door.

717
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: I thought.

718
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 12: Isabel's in a picture of both doors.

719
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, but just to show the relation, said.

720
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: Door did not just have to barge in, That's what

721
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: you're saying.

722
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 12: And then of course like the door was stuck.

723
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: So so where you guys come from Drake May's press

724
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: com and how did that go?

725
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 5: It went well.

726
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: It was uh, first time we've heard from him in

727
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: quite some time since all the changes happened and everything,

728
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: so it was it was good to hear from him.

729
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: I think he's really enjoying working with Josh McDaniels and

730
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: right now they're they're in the lab so to speak,

731
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: together putting together the playbook and going through the terminology,

732
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: and that was some of the things that he said

733
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: about just throwing out last year's terminology and absorbing this

734
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,239
Speaker 3: year's terminology right now is is that's the biggest thing

735
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: they're working on, is getting all of the verbiage from

736
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: last year out and getting all this stuff in.

737
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Speaker 12: Yeah, he said he was super pumped about the free

738
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 12: agent additions too. Apparently had stuff on Digs on his

739
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 12: fantasy team when he was in high school, so he's

740
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 12: really excited to be able to actually throw to that

741
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 12: guy in real life and not just in Madden.

742
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Speaker 5: Fantasy.

743
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: That was a direct quote. He said that he used

744
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: to play with Stefan Diggs and Madden and now he

745
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: gets to play with them in real life. So he's

746
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: looking forward to that. And you know, very obviously excited

747
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: about Rabel too of course and what they're doing there.

748
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: But he said he watched Will Campbell, watched it live.

749
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: When Will Campbell said that he would die for his quarterback.

750
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: He was pretty pumped about that and said he wanted

751
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 3: to go out and play tomorrow. You know, right when

752
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: he heard that, he was like ready to go run

753
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: through a brick wall.

754
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: Basically what he tweeted, right yeah, did you did you.

755
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 5: See any physical differences in him? Did he look any different, bigger, smaller?

756
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: He's always pretty big guy.

757
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 12: So, yeah, he had a hoodie on.

758
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 4: He had a bad.

759
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 5: Shoulders kind of puffing all there's wanted to see something

760
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 5: added bulk to the frame.

761
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: There's some scuttle butt about that on the interwebs.

762
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 4: I wonder if that's why he was the hoodie.

763
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: Machine was such a well, we've posted some pictures you know,

764
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: behind you know, stuff behind the scenes from practice and

765
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: stuff like that.

766
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 4: Let's just assume that I hadn't seen those.

767
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: The fans think that he looks a little bit bulked up,

768
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: a little a little bit added some more chisel.

769
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Speaker 5: Good, you know.

770
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Speaker 4: So it would be a good thing. I think you

771
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 4: needs I don't know you need military. That's a good

772
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: that's a good sign. If for the girls, if in

773
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: fact true, would be a welcome edition. So we have

774
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Speaker 4: a jack lolane clinking.

775
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: So did he go for an extended period? Was it short?

776
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: It was a good amount. It was a good amount.

777
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: They're doing right now. It's like four days on, three

778
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: days off is like their current schedule. So today was

779
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: the fourth day. So they're all they're all headed out

780
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: for a couple of days off after today, so a

781
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: lot of media. It's a good amount of media. Yeah, yeah, the.

782
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: Off until Monday.

783
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: It's a perfect storm with that that sucks out of town.

784
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 4: Yeah. And Drake May, like you May quarterback, if you're

785
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: covering the Patriots, you gotta get down here for an

786
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 4: interview with Drake May when you haven't heard from him

787
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 4: since it wasn't seventeen, it was not full for the

788
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: game a fight you didn't hear from a week eighteen. Yeah,

789
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 4: and you didn't hear from Hm after the season, so

790
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: it's been a while.

791
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: Anybody asked about Josh McDaniels or anything.

792
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: Like that, Yeah, Yeah, there was a there's a handful

793
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: of questions about Josh McDaniels. I mean, everything that has

794
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 3: gone on this offseason, he kind of had I'm pumped,

795
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: you know, I'm excited for all of it, you know,

796
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: sort of comments about it. But like I said earlier,

797
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 3: I think with Josh McDaniels, he's he seems like just

798
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: eager to just pick his brain and just to absorb

799
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: all the knowledge that McDaniels brings to the table. And

800
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 3: you mentioned, you know, everybody mentions Brady, but there's other

801
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that McDaniels has worked with that have had success

802
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff too, So he's right now.

803
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: I almost feel like he's a sponge, you know, he's

804
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: just trying.

805
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: To any tar heel talk.

806
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: No, all right, just wondering David Andrews question to ask

807
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: that Milton question. Yeah, I think those were probably, you know,

808
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: happy for the shows we'll focus on.

809
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 4: I'm interested in the Milton one.

810
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 5: I'm not really Andrews so happy for Joe getting an

811
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 5: opportunity there.

812
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically he just said he's happy that, you know,

813
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: Joe's can be the best.

814
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: Can I just ask how the question was posed? I

815
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: want to see how fraudulent my colleagues.

816
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 12: Are, Hi, Drake, I'm just curious.

817
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 4: They're they're mean, said Drake.

818
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 5: Can I can I throw a little topic for discussion

819
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 5: out there? I talked a little bit with Paula at this,

820
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 5: but it feels like a good time to pick you

821
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 5: back on it. Do you feel like the Patriots have

822
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 5: done enough on offense that now it's less about Drake

823
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 5: doesn't have the protection of the weapons. Is a little

824
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 5: bit more pressure and focus now on Drake may to

825
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 5: take this team to the next level.

826
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was asked a question like that that was

827
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 3: along those same lines like, do you feel.

828
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 12: Said it's kind of like for agency, we we just

829
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 12: plugged in hopefully we can play.

830
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, do you feel any added pressure

831
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 3: now that the team went out in the offseason and

832
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: really aggressively added a lot of talent to the roster

833
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: to do just that. I we're definitely in the territory

834
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: for me, this is my opinion that we're they should

835
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: at least be an NFL average offense or better. Right Like,

836
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 3: I don't think we're in the territory anymore where you

837
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: can sit here and say they're the thirtieth ranked offense

838
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: and here's all the excuses as to why, you know,

839
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: barring a bunch of injuries or something like that happened.

840
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: But for right now, I feel like, on paper, like

841
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: they should be a representable, you know, Mac Jones rookie

842
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: season esque NFL offense, and if they're not, then we're

843
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: gonna be asking.

844
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: How long do you give them? Do you give him

845
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 2: until October? You know? Wow?

846
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 4: Fred looking to make change.

847
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: In terms of saying, okay, yes, this offense is better.

848
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: How long do you give them.

849
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 5: I think, I mean I would say, I think, yeah,

850
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 5: six to eight games, I mean half a season. I

851
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 5: mean I think there could be some ups and downs

852
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 5: early in the season. Evan just said it. He's got

853
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 5: to learn all new Verbi. He's just a new offense.

854
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 5: I will be a little forgiving in September. I always

855
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 5: am of generally everything because it takes there's no hitting

856
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 5: in training camp anymore. Takes some time. But I think

857
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 5: as you get into October, when coaches like Bill Belichick

858
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 5: have traditionally told you you start to know what you have,

859
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 5: then the trends become the reality and not just one

860
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 5: offs or random games where it went sideways.

861
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll.

862
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 5: Continue to say these two things till I'm blue in

863
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 5: the face. He's got to cut down the turnovers, and

864
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 5: he's got a show in crunch time when the games

865
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 5: is winnable that he can lead the team to the win.

866
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 5: And you know there might be ups and downs. It

867
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 5: won't be perfect, but I'd love to see those elements

868
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 5: this year.

869
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: David new Hampshire writes in he said, I was working

870
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 2: courtside during the Celtics game last week assisting a cameraman

871
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: just before tip off. In our rush to get off

872
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: the parque, I didn't notice two gentlemen taking their seats

873
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: in the front row, which causes the worst moment in

874
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: my professional career. I walked backwards directly into Robert Kraft. Mortified,

875
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: I take I take a quick step right into Mike Rabel.

876
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: All I could muster up was sorry Mike, as I

877
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: scurried back to my place behind the net. Of course,

878
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: they know how hectic the sideline could be, but the

879
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 2: rest of the night I just wanted to die of embarrassment. Anyway,

880
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: I love the first two picks, and they send along

881
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: another Sorry Mike.

882
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 12: Hey, if you stay on your feet after bumping into

883
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 12: Rabel and not getting knocked over that.

884
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 5: I have a chess protector on at the game.

885
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: So it's funny because we were at that game that

886
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 3: they were at, and as soon as Rabel and mister

887
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: Kraft walked in, I just went, Rabel's here, and my

888
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: dad was like what and I was like, yeah, he's

889
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: right there. And my dad was like, what do you

890
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: have like a radar on him or something?

891
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 5: And I was like yes, I was like my head

892
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 5: coach job, absolutely, did you do a zoom in tweet

893
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 5: Rabel in attendance tonight.

894
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah I did.

895
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: And then like everybody like had was also picking up

896
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 3: on it at the time. Obviously they showed him on

897
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: the SPS. They did him on them, They hold the

898
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: works jumbo tron. ESPN had on the works. They were

899
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: sitting right underneath the Road Team basket, like literally courtside,

900
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: right underneath the basket, so you couldn't miss it, like

901
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: when they were showing that angle like they were on

902
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: TV several times.

903
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure yep. Back to the phones. Nate's in Connecticut.

904
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: Oh jeez, I hit the wrong button, Ate, Sorry, Nate,

905
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: damn it. No fingers, Yeah, sorry about that. This is

906
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: a little holdover from last show. This is Andrew. Can

907
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: we stop with the trashing on Sony Michelle and Malcolm Mitchell.

908
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: Although their careers weren't long and Sony didn't play long

909
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: for US, both players in their own had their own

910
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: Super Bowl played great the Super Bowl against the Rams.

911
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: Sony had ninety four yards rushing against Aaron Donald. Malcolm

912
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 2: Mitchell had six catches for seventy yards against the Falcons

913
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl, and five catches were in the

914
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. What stopped the heat. Yes, they didn't last long,

915
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: but still contributed. I think you're misinterpreting what the talk

916
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: was about them. It wasn't like, oh, they weren't good.

917
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: It's just that you know injury risk, and you know,

918
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: you never know when someone's you know about somebody's career.

919
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well people maybe not so much publicly with Sony,

920
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: and we kind of found out after the fact with

921
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 3: Sony Michelle that his knee was a problem. But the

922
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: point I think we were trying to make was that

923
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: we knew going into the draft that these guys had

924
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: injury concerns and might have shorter shelf lifes, and that's

925
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: the way that it ultimately panned out for both of them.

926
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: So Sony Michelle was never the player he was at

927
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: Georgia with the Patriots. He never had the juice that

928
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: he had at Georgia here. I mean, he was a

929
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 3: much different player at Georgia than he was with the Patriots.

930
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 5: I feel like I understand the pick a little bit

931
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 5: better now. We had so much discussion in this draft

932
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 5: period about when can you draft a running back, Like

933
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 5: do you have to wait till your offensive line is great?

934
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: Do you know?

935
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 5: Are you is it too soon to draft him. And

936
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 5: I think that year they got into that point where

937
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 5: it's the end of the first and you see what

938
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 5: these teams now that are playoff teams that make deep

939
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 5: playoff runs. You sit there and you kind of say, well,

940
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 5: what's here? What makes sense? I mean, I know Michelle

941
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 5: had issues, but the you know, the emailer is right. Yeah,

942
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 5: he helped them win a super Bowl that year. I

943
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 5: think Paul would argue that anybody probably could have helped

944
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 5: them win a super Bowl.

945
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: But they lost Toon Lewis that offseason to the Titans,

946
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: and free agency to Rabel and free agency and and

947
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 3: so they didn't have a lead back and they needed

948
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 3: a lead back and at that time they didn't have

949
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: a ton of holes.

950
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 5: So, I mean, I love Malcolm Mitchell.

951
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

952
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 5: During COVID, me and Paul sat down and rewatched Super

953
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 5: Bowl fifty one with him, and he was just an

954
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 5: outstanding human being. I mean, it's just and that's just

955
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 5: a sad situation. You know, you take a risk on

956
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 5: a guy. Sometimes a guy has a back injury, you

957
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 5: take him in the second round and ends up being Gronk.

958
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 5: Sometimes they've got a knee injury in the third fourth round. Man,

959
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 5: you know they already yeah.

960
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: We really both those guys are better than dominic ees.

961
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: It was but yeah, that that was that was the

962
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: big thing with Malcolm Mitchell. I remember at the time,

963
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: everybody loved the pick because of the talent and he

964
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: was great and and everyone kind of knew that it

965
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: was going to be short lived. But to the emailer's point,

966
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: they got one Super Bowl out of him and he

967
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: was huge against Atlanta and.

968
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 13: That was it.

969
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 2: Yep, uh, Nate's in Connecticut. I hope I did it

970
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: right this time. What's up, Nate?

971
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 7: Hey, how are you guys?

972
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: And great?

973
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: Okay?

974
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 5: Thanks?

975
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 14: All right. So I was, you know, wondering about the draft,

976
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 14: but that do you think on Henderson was like the

977
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 14: best thing we could do in the situation?

978
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: Do we think Travion Henderson was what?

979
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 5: I'm sure that we'll look back and somebody will tell

980
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 5: me that some guy went six picks later that might

981
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 5: have made more sense. But as I sit here right now,

982
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 5: I'm going to tell you I think that that's an

983
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 5: outstanding pick. I think he's going to bring an element

984
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 5: of speed, explosiveness to this offense that they badly needed.

985
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 5: We can play the would have, could have, should have

986
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 5: game down the road a little bit. But as I

987
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 5: sit here right now, I think it's what I'm standing pick.

988
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 14: What do you think, Nate, I I honestly love the

989
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 14: pick and like I love Stevenson, but you know, over

990
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 14: the season, we saw issues continue to stack up, and

991
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 14: especially on the offense. And how you know already how

992
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 14: like bad it was that season, Like you can't have

993
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 14: a guy like that be carrying the ball two hundred

994
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 14: times a season. So you know, getting a guy like

995
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 14: raig On Henderson who carries the ball like one and

996
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 14: forty more times for over one thousand yards and like

997
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 14: had an average of seven point two yards per gary,

998
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 14: That's that's the guy who's going to open up more

999
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 14: opportunities on an offense, not even just in the run game,

1000
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 14: but the past game as well.

1001
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of them get seven point two yards to

1002
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: carry in the NFL. But I get your point. Yeah, thanks, Nate.

1003
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 12: I don't even watch film, but some of those like

1004
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 12: blocking highlights he has was just blowing guys up. That

1005
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 12: guy that even got me.

1006
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: Throwing his body and yeah, you hear, like one of

1007
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 3: the best blocking running backs I've ever evaluated. From people

1008
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: in the league that have that have watched Trevon Henderson

1009
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: pass protect and blitz, pick up and stuff like that.

1010
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: So that's exciting in itself, even beyond the skill that

1011
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 3: he has. But you know, I had him thirty second

1012
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: on my big board. They picked him at thirty eight,

1013
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: and so I thought it was pretty good value. And

1014
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: to Mike's point, if Luther Burden goes on to be

1015
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: a star in the league, that will be the second guess. Now,

1016
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 3: hopefully even if Luther Burden's good, so is Trevion Henderson

1017
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: And said it's a wash, right, But you know, if

1018
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: it doesn't go that direction, then those will be the questions.

1019
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: But it will irk me because we won't bring up

1020
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: the context of why they passed on Luther Burden. But

1021
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 3: that's besides the point.

1022
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I so we went through the process.

1023
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 5: We talked a lot about running backs and that you

1024
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 5: need to draft a running back this year, and I

1025
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 5: fell on the side of and I think you kind

1026
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 5: of did two of three. Fine, yeah, you get a guy.

1027
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: In third or fourth round.

1028
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, But now I've kind of.

1029
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 5: Changed my mind a little bit, And you know, I

1030
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 5: think Ramondre deserves every chance to get back out there

1031
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 5: and show that, you know, he can hang on to

1032
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 5: the ball. He's a really good player, and I hope

1033
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 5: that he lives up to his you know, potential we

1034
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 5: saw a couple of years ago. But I think they

1035
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 5: need to have a b option or a young promising

1036
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: back that if Romandre has some issues or look, everybody

1037
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 5: gets hurt at that position anyway. I like Antonio Gibson,

1038
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 5: He's fine, But to have a young charged back who's

1039
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 5: ready to come in and contribute, it's just a great

1040
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 5: down shift if something were to happen to romondre with it,

1041
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 5: no matter what the issue were. So that room had

1042
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 5: to be reinforced.

1043
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 11: And I like that.

1044
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: They went and plus the next pick with Kyle Williams,

1045
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: so it's not like they're ignoring wide receiver. They picked

1046
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: the dynamic wide receiver as well. So again, you got

1047
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: a left tackle, you got a running back, you got

1048
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. Let's go.

1049
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 5: I know, that's that's the that's just right, Like that's

1050
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 5: like all right, let's start to come together.

1051
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: Like and a similar player too, I would say with

1052
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: Kyle Williams and Luther Burden, I think they're similar in

1053
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: what they do well. And their strengths and weaknesses. There's

1054
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: really only two guys that I look at and say,

1055
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: you know, if you want to play the either or

1056
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 3: game or would you rather game? Donovan Azaruku from Boston

1057
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: College pass rusher, he went I think forty two or

1058
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: something like that to Dallas. And then and then obviously Burden,

1059
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 3: Like those are the two guys that I would say

1060
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: were in the conversation to me at thirty eight, that

1061
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: you could have put up against Trevon Henderson. But you know,

1062
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 3: I understand the way they went with it. And you know,

1063
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 3: to Mike's point about we were kind of more on

1064
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 3: like mid round running backs, you know, third fourth round

1065
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: running backs, it seemed like there was a clear demarcation

1066
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: between the two Ohio State backs, RJ. Harvey from UCF

1067
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: and then the rest of them, Like those guys were

1068
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: kind of put into a category of like explosive, big

1069
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 3: playbacks that the league had graded a little bit higher

1070
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 3: than the Devin Nils and the Trevor Etns and like

1071
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: that whole next wave that went in the fourth round.

1072
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 3: So I can understand why they went where they they went.

1073
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 3: I would have been fine either way, but they they

1074
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: got a player properly rated player, just just.

1075
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 5: To make a quick comp though, you know Luther Burdon,

1076
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 5: we know he has some issues about people can't stop

1077
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 5: talking about what a great guy Kyle Williams are, So

1078
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 5: you know, it's just you see what the difference is.

1079
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 5: I mean, Burnon has some boom er bust potential, but

1080
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 5: you know, Williams won a lot of people over here,

1081
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 5: not just in football when he visited. The coaches I've

1082
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 5: talked to of all just raved about what an outstanding

1083
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 5: young man he is. So you know that's where you're

1084
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 5: willing to make your mistake if you know, look, we're

1085
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 5: going to make our mistake on Let's go with the

1086
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 5: guy that everybody really likes his personality and he.

1087
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 3: Can play on the outside, which I think is something

1088
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: that excites me from a football standpoint. But Burden with

1089
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: Jalen Nole really talented players and I'm not trying to

1090
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: do that thing where well, now this guy's a Patriots,

1091
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 3: so I'm going to trash the other guys. But those

1092
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: other guys are viewed as you know, guys that are

1093
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: going to play like seventy five eighty percent of their

1094
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: snaps in the slot, like going to be pure slot receivers,

1095
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: whereas I think, you know, because of his releases, they

1096
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: are optimistic that Kyle Williams can play more on the outside,

1097
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Speaker 3: so he's a little bit more of a versatile receiver

1098
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: than Burden and no Lar.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, just to piggyback off your point Mike about like,

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Speaker 12: I don't know how much of the posts draft press

1101
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Speaker 12: conferences you guys heard from each guy, but like the

1102
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Speaker 12: common theme I kept thinking about was like, these guys

1103
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 12: are really attent, like really really intelligent. These guys are

1104
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 12: really well spoken. These guys all seem like really like

1105
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 12: high character, great teammate leaders. And just every year we've

1106
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 12: had like a couple of those guys that really gave

1107
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 12: me pause, and I was like, wow, this is I'm

1108
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 12: really looking forward to talking to this guy. And this

1109
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 12: year it was every single one right after another.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. I didn't get to hear Kyle Williams.

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00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 5: I think there was some audio difficulty, but I read

1112
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 5: the transcripts of everybody and yeah, I mean it's I agree.

1113
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 5: I agree.

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00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: Yep. Gerald In Grimsby writes in we're talking about Tim

1115
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: Tebow coming to the Patriots, He says, is it possible

1116
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 2: that the Patriots brought Tebow in to be an influence

1117
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 2: or babysit at certain tight end he played college ball with.

1118
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: Did that coincide?

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00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 4: Shoot?

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Speaker 3: It probably did, but I was definitely not covering the

1121
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: team back then, So I have no idea.

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00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 5: I got it. I gotta look that one up. I

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00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 5: gotta look that one up because it Yeah, it doesn't

1124
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 5: really line up to me. I know Josh came back

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Speaker 5: at the end of eleven for the playoff run, right,

1126
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 5: but didn't they hurt it? I mean, well, I think

1127
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 5: it might have been. Yeah, it might have been twelve

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Speaker 5: Tebo was Tim Tebow twelve?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

1130
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 5: And then I think, yeah, it might be.

1131
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: He also says, am I wrong to be still holding

1132
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: out hope that Cayden Wallace can be a right tackle?

1133
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 15: No?

1134
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 5: You're not at all. I mean that's and that's something

1135
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 5: I've been saying.

1136
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Speaker 2: I don't.

1137
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 5: I think we're wrong to write him off last year.

1138
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,479
Speaker 5: I mean last year he was put into the wrong box.

1139
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 5: Everyone put him is like, oh, this is a right

1140
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 5: this is a right tackle they're going to try to

1141
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 5: make into a left tackle, and it didn't work. Like

1142
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 5: he was just a really promising right tackle prospect.

1143
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 4: That's what he was.

1144
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 5: So give him an off season, let him get healthy.

1145
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 5: I could see a perfect world where he's the swing

1146
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 5: tackle in back of Morgan Moses and maybe eventually, you know,

1147
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 5: could succeed him. So I like that email. Don't rule

1148
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 5: him out.

1149
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 3: I would we did. He didn't play, so yeah, we

1150
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: you know he was. He was out hurt for the

1151
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 3: vast majority of the season. So you know, I understand

1152
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 3: being a little bit lower right now on Polk and

1153
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: Baker because we they had opportunity to play and just

1154
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 3: didn't do much with it. With Caen Wallace, that's a

1155
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: he's a total unknown right now. He's a mystery box.

1156
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: Uh.

1157
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: Kamel from Georgia. He has three things. One, how are

1158
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 2: we feeling about Kyle Dugar being the longest tenured Patriot

1159
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: right now?

1160
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: It's crazy?

1161
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting younger.

1162
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 12: Do you guys talk about Cardonia yet?

1163
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: What did you think you were there?

1164
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 12: Did you discuss the meeting?

1165
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 7: Oh?

1166
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I mean I always really like Joe. He's

1167
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 12: always been I think, really good to us. One quick story. Obviously,

1168
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 12: my first couple of seasons here, Bill was still here

1169
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 12: and like we're kind of trud like second class citizens. Right.

1170
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 12: But uh, I got the opportunity to go with Hoyer

1171
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 12: and Cardona to the country Club in Brooklyn when the

1172
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 12: US Open was here, and they got to play the course,

1173
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 12: and that was my first time really getting to know

1174
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 12: both of those guys. But over the course of eighteen

1175
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 12: holes and just hanging out with them, they were so cool.

1176
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 12: They didn't at all treat me like a second class citizen.

1177
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 12: Joe let me play an entire hole with his clubs

1178
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 12: on the country club. I had a good drive, even

1179
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 12: though it was way longer than I'm used to, but

1180
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 12: like I would never have the opportunity to sniff that

1181
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 12: golf course, never mind play a hole, So that was

1182
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 12: really cool to me. I really always appreciated that. And

1183
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 12: then ever since, he's always been an awesome quote for me,

1184
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 12: always in the community. I feel like I was always

1185
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 12: going to Like I was just in Newport with him

1186
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 12: last week, went to the FBI with him. Had a

1187
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 12: lot of cool opportunities because Cardona was doing something in

1188
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 12: the community. So I really appreciate him.

1189
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: The second thing from Kamal, do you think Joe Cordona

1190
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 2: can get into the Patriots Hall of Fame? I think

1191
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: he does. I don't. Unfortunately now listen, Joe's a great guy,

1192
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: but you know.

1193
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 4: Me, I I can't even get Wes Welker on the battle.

1194
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, no disrespect, but yeah, right exactly.

1195
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 5: But I think with the amount of things that we

1196
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 5: do partnering with the military, I think he should still

1197
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 5: be around and still be a lot of part of

1198
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 5: those things we had the Army Navy game last year, Yeah,

1199
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 5: involving him in those kind of things, and I think

1200
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 5: she should always be a connection for this organization.

1201
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 11: And then finally, now with Trevion Henderson on the roster,

1202
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 11: do we think this will make Antonio Gibson the receiving back.

1203
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 5: I just I don't think that there is that anymore.

1204
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 5: I think that their new vision of what they want.

1205
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 5: I could be wrong because Josh is back and maybe

1206
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 5: he still sees likes that delineation of early down passing down,

1207
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 5: but the way they played last year, the way the

1208
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 5: game is headed, I think they like all three of

1209
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 5: those guys to play every down, and it's certainly different styles.

1210
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 5: Maybe Gibson and Henderson are a little bit more similar

1211
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 5: in that respect, but I don't think it's going to

1212
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 5: be delineated like that this year.

1213
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 4: I think I think Henderson is that guy. I think

1214
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 4: Henderson is like James White. I think he can run

1215
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: between the tackles, maybe more than the Patriots use James

1216
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 4: White in Matt regard, but I think he's an exceptional

1217
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: receiver and explosive on the outside in space. I'd expect

1218
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 4: him to run. RD talked a lot to his running

1219
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 4: backs coach, and he said, he's absolutely a guy you

1220
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 4: can line up outside the formation, find a matchup, and

1221
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 4: he runs routes. He's not just catching little swing passes

1222
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 4: and screens. He can run routes. So I think that's

1223
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 4: what James White's special ability was. He could get out

1224
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 4: in space and you know, run a seven yard slant

1225
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 4: or you know, a double move on a wheel route

1226
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 4: or something that wasn't just you know, a little swing passes.

1227
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 5: Maybe some pony package, ye, a little pony get to

1228
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 5: get the two rbs out there. I mean, Gibson was

1229
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 5: a receiver in college, so you know, maybe there's something

1230
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 5: there where we've got you know, two really good receiving backs.

1231
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 5: You know he tried. I mean, it's so interesting to

1232
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 5: see the past protection thing that's been praised because that's

1233
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 5: often been a roadblock for rookies getting on the field

1234
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 5: at this position. So is Henderson really that good? Do

1235
00:54:59,600 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 5: they trust?

1236
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 4: It's immediately I had a chance to sit down and

1237
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 4: talk to Carlos Lachlan, the running backs coach Ohio.

1238
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 5: Still and what did he have to say.

1239
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 4: He said, he absolutely can run those roches, like you said.

1240
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: While you were gonefall, we had an emailer who wondered

1241
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: if the reason they brought Tebo when was the kind

1242
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 2: of babysit a certain time?

1243
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 5: So I think it was thirteen after.

1244
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 4: I don't remember the years, but I do like the thought. Yeah,

1245
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 4: I don't remember if the you know, I got to

1246
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 4: look at the timetable to see.

1247
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 5: Camp twenty thirteen, I think.

1248
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: Already already, like they.

1249
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 12: All knew Hernandez in that mentality. Do you think like

1250
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 12: they thought he would give a crop about Tim Tebow?

1251
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: Well, according to the doc that I watched on I

1252
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 2: think it was netflix that. I mean, Tibo was actually

1253
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 2: a positive influence on him while he was in Florida.

1254
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 12: In Florida together, that was my next question, Yeah.

1255
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: A little bit, like he helped him. It did help.

1256
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: He was like his that Urban Meyer Florida team, like

1257
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: the Big two time National Cham.

1258
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: I mean he actually had him going to church for

1259
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: a little bit. Okay, yeah, if you're gonna believe it,

1260
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 2: Sean writes in Uh, he says, I'm going to be

1261
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: relocating to the Winston Salem, North Carolina area later this month,

1262
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: and do you all know if they have any Patriots

1263
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: bars or groups down in that area. It's a good

1264
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 2: opportunity for me to plug the Patriots fan club Registry.

1265
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 4: Sean.

1266
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 2: If you go to Patriots dot com, go into the

1267
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: fan zone on Patriots dot com, you'll see a link

1268
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: for the fan club Registry. Go there, just type in

1269
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 2: Winston Salem, North Carolina, and it'll show you all the

1270
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 2: fan clubs in the area and bars that they go to.

1271
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 2: I know there is a big North Carolina fan It's

1272
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: run by a guy named Todd.

1273
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 5: I don't know who runs that one.

1274
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a big guy. But they when they have

1275
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: watch parties, they they'll bring in Patriots alumni and uh,

1276
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: they do a really good job there. They raise money

1277
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: for the Patriots Foundation. I'm not sure how close they

1278
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: are to win some Salem. I think they are. I

1279
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: think they are.

1280
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 5: I think they are.

1281
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because when we go to the games down there.

1282
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: They weren't too far from where we stayed, and we

1283
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: stayed close to So just go to the fan club

1284
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: registry type in North Carolina and you'll have all that information.

1285
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: And anyone else anywhere in the world you can do

1286
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: the same thing. So go to Patriots dot com fan

1287
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: Zone fan Club Registry and use that tool when you're traveling.

1288
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: If you want to look for a bar that's showing

1289
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: the game, you can use it for that. It's a

1290
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: pretty cool tool.

1291
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 5: I mean, I was more flashing back to when I

1292
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 5: was a fan going to Seattle and it's like at

1293
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 5: the bar party with you guys.

1294
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 2: My god, there's free curse you know were he was

1295
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: under the table.

1296
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 5: It was hard to get a beer there. I remember

1297
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 5: I was like, man, this place is not.

1298
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 4: All right.

1299
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: That's let's take a break when we come back. More

1300
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: call and emails here on Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 16: I mean, not something that obviously comes with a position.

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Speaker 16: And I'll like to hopefully call myself this year leader

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Speaker 16: and I think working towards that. I think just earning

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Speaker 16: the guys respect a lot of the new faces in here,

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Speaker 16: you know, come in here and work hard, and you know,

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Speaker 16: show those guys that we picked up in free agency,

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Speaker 16: or the rookies or guys we picked up just kind

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Speaker 16: of my work, I think. I think kind of you know,

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Speaker 16: start out from that standpoint and show the coaches. I

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Speaker 16: think once you get you know, new staff and new players,

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Speaker 16: you want to show them, Hey, it's not relaxed time.

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Speaker 16: I think, you know, want some You're gonna be the starter.

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Speaker 16: Just you know, keep things, you know, pushing forward and

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Speaker 16: where saying more than you know and whether and walk

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Speaker 16: through or a little things like that. Just kind of

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Speaker 16: kind of build that and not focused too much on it.

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Speaker 16: Just hopefully kind of hopefully it comes natural.

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 17: If you mentioned the guys that you had a free

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Speaker 17: agency offseason, rookies, what do you think about the off season.

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Speaker 4: General plast team.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think I'm pumped. I think you know, a

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Speaker 16: lot of new faces, a lot of guys, a lot

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Speaker 16: of veterans that played at a high level. I think,

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Speaker 16: you know, we we we we kind of find answers

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Speaker 16: a lot of different spot that hopefully can can plug

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Speaker 16: and play. And I think that's what. You know, the

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Speaker 16: point of free agency is, I think, get guys that

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Speaker 16: come in here and help us win, help us win now.

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Speaker 16: And I think you had that it was some young

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Speaker 16: talent that we've had in the past, you know, a

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Speaker 16: couple of drafts, and I think hopefully we're head in

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Speaker 16: the right direction. So I think that's what. You know,

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Speaker 16: it's guys in there working towards I'm working towards kind

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Speaker 16: of kind of get to know each other, you know,

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Speaker 16: connect That's what because we're able to you know, kind

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Speaker 16: of preaching is you know, kind of learn it and

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Speaker 16: training and connecting. And I think it's it's it's been

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Speaker 16: fun to kind of get these know these guys and

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Speaker 16: getting those guys.

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Speaker 3: It's been a bunch of different places.

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Speaker 16: So it's it's been cool you look at.

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Speaker 17: Ahead, but have you taken time to look bad some

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Speaker 17: time and space since the end of the season. What

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Speaker 17: you would like to improve on, Things you want to

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Speaker 17: take away and build on going into the spring.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, understand.

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Speaker 16: I think you go back and you see you know,

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Speaker 16: obviously negative plays or you know, sacks or you know, turnovers.

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Speaker 16: I think there's always in ways to improve and protecting football.

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Speaker 16: You appreciate protecting the football. You got to you know,

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Speaker 16: turnovers in this league are no good. They don't result

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Speaker 16: the wins in this league. So you know, finally protect

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Speaker 16: the football. You'll find them ways to Hey it's you know,

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Speaker 16: third downmarn and field goal range. They don't take a sack,

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Speaker 16: a little things like that. I think you can always learn,

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Speaker 16: you know, especially and also protection wise, you'll protect myself

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Speaker 16: and you know, you know it's gonna be nucles McDaniel's

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Speaker 16: you know, kind of just different different protection scheme, different stuff.

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Speaker 16: So just find them ways to you know, learn in

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Speaker 16: and outs and just like I said, get the guys,

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Speaker 16: you know, going on to the right page, Drake, what do.

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Speaker 3: You like you mentioned the protection scheme it seems like

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Speaker 3: a lot of the quarterback pre snap.

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Speaker 18: Mean, what do you like about how to any troubles there?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think the balls in my hands. I think

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Speaker 16: if you want that, I think you know, I hold

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Speaker 16: the pen last. That's what you know, they say, And

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Speaker 16: I think that's what you want because I can. I

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Speaker 16: got the best view back there. Maybe the running back

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Speaker 16: you know es fetching the gun, but even under center,

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Speaker 16: you've got the best view of the defense.

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Speaker 4: And you're the ones that you have to know.

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Speaker 16: Where eybody's at, know what you know, really what everybody's doing,

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Speaker 16: or you know some point exactly maybe the technique exactly upfront,

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Speaker 16: but you got a good idea of you know, what

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Speaker 16: they're supposed to do. I think know it's it's it's

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Speaker 16: great for me to you know, hold the pen last,

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Speaker 16: like I said, and make Hey, if I may see

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Speaker 16: a week safety coming and the center may not be

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Speaker 16: able to see that, or you know, the coach may

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Speaker 16: not see it from the sideline, little things like that,

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Speaker 16: I think it's be great for me to You'll take

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Speaker 16: that next step and you know, taking command of you'll

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Speaker 16: sending the guys up front where to go, and you

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Speaker 16: know who the block, So I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: I've heard from some of your teammates that were the

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Speaker 3: last completes about music in the Halloways, Mike Rabol calling

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Speaker 3: on guys, kind of cold calling at eatings. How would

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Speaker 3: you describe the vibe very early of Mike Rabel's football program.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's coming here and and you have

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Speaker 16: your head on the sold we'll get to work. I

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Speaker 16: think that's kind of, you know, the vibe I've caught.

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Speaker 16: I think there's no you spend time outside of when

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Speaker 16: we're in the building. You know, Phase one just finished,

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Speaker 16: first week of Phase two and we're here for four hours.

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Speaker 16: So I think it's kind of really figuring out with

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Speaker 16: the new coaches. You know, who's learning, who's spending time

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Speaker 16: outside of you know here of learning it, and who

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Speaker 16: wants to help us win when when the season comes.

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Speaker 16: And I think that's what they want. They want to

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Speaker 16: get the guys, get the right guys in here who

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Speaker 16: want to win and know the answers when your cold

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Speaker 16: call them and who knows you know, he has energy

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Speaker 16: in the hallways. I think they can kind of differentiate

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Speaker 16: between the guys who kind of know when to have

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Speaker 16: fun and know when to, you know, put their head

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Speaker 16: down and you'll have you know, get things right.

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Speaker 9: And before added he at this level of investors and

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Speaker 9: teams being on the opposive side of the tall, is.

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Speaker 19: There already added the pressure on you.

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Speaker 16: I think you know, there's there's there's there's enough pressure

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Speaker 16: playing this position in this league. I think you take

1446
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Speaker 16: it as there's you guys around you that that I

1447
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Speaker 16: want to make plays and and it can make plays

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Speaker 16: for you. So I don't think there's any out of pressure.

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Speaker 16: I think, uh, I think it's a national poll league.

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Speaker 16: So every week you got to bring it. And I

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Speaker 16: think you know, if if there is had a pressure,

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Speaker 16: I think you want it. You want to you know,

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Speaker 16: ball in my hands and win, you know, crunch down.

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Speaker 1: What's it like working the stuff on taps ship.

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Speaker 4: I was excited, were you when they signed to him?

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Speaker 4: And you know what that shoot?

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Speaker 16: You know Stefan, I mean he's one of those guys

1458
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Speaker 16: growing up and when I was in high school, he

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Speaker 16: was a young you know, young in the league and

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Speaker 16: you had my fantasy team and you know, things like that.

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Speaker 16: So playing with him at Madden so it's it's pretty

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Speaker 16: cool to hopefully, you know, now this season been throwing

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Speaker 16: to him. He's coming back obviously from injury and looks

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Speaker 16: like he's doing great. He's been around, and I think

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Speaker 16: it's just it's gonna be cool to throw a you know,

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Speaker 16: receiver like who's made plays like he has. There's made

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Speaker 16: big players in playoff games, who's uh been in a

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Speaker 16: lot of different schemes, who's played with high little quarterbacks

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Speaker 16: to see kind of his point your point of view

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Speaker 16: from different stuff, and just it's my job to give

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Speaker 16: him a chance to go get it.

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Speaker 15: So curious, Well, first off, I want to take a

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Speaker 15: congratulationship on your tea.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, But you know I was.

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Speaker 3: Cherious you are some o Sea, so should get to

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Speaker 3: see if he's like expressed a lot of name and

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Speaker 3: chief on being him.

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Speaker 1: Chan I'm just say maybe it's slower than the season.

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Speaker 3: Have you talked from Susau Sason?

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Speaker 4: What are you seeing from them or just what are

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Speaker 4: you accepting from them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: I think you know, those guys that came in from

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Speaker 16: you know, came in with me, They were drafted with me,

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Speaker 16: and you know we took it upon ourselves at rookies

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Speaker 16: to hopefully kind of set up a good standard and

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Speaker 16: I think I think I've seen from them is just

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Speaker 16: kind of learning a new offense. I think they're they're

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Speaker 16: ahead of where they were, you know, when we were

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Speaker 16: in the first couple of weeks last year learning the

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Speaker 16: new offense. So I think they kind of have caught

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Speaker 16: the stride up. Hey, I gotta you know, be all

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Speaker 16: my stuff, No, be in the right spot, you know

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Speaker 16: what to do, And that's just you know, half of

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Speaker 16: it making the plays the next part. So I think

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Speaker 16: you definitely, you know, seeing kind of a get up

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Speaker 16: from them and looking forward to you know, getting them

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Speaker 16: into camping and see what they could do.

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Speaker 3: Dren curiously, this saw season putting the offense together, you know, Josh,

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Speaker 3: obviously it's guys used to lead in the charge of that.

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Speaker 4: But has he asked you about things that you like,

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Speaker 4: like you feel like you have any influence over how

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Speaker 4: that will come together? Interest your life systems.

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Speaker 1: And now great moments.

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Speaker 16: Like you know, stuff I like from last year that

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Speaker 16: we ran, stuff that I like that they do, that

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Speaker 16: that I've seen on film. I think he'll be I

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Speaker 16: think it'd be good for us because we'll be able

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Speaker 16: to do a lot. I think it'll be challenging to

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Speaker 16: find out exactly what you know, what is going to

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Speaker 16: be kind of our stuff, and I think, uh, that's

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Speaker 16: the fun part of it. That's kind of the chest

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Speaker 16: match against coordinators that you you want to find, but

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Speaker 16: coach is great about you'll find the matchups and kind

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Speaker 16: of exploiting defenses when you may know what what to expect.

1516
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 16: So I think I'm just looking forward to, you know,

1517
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 16: starting the game plan. I know that's far away, but

1518
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 16: I think you kind of get the edged now thought partner. Yeah, David, Uh,

1519
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 16: you know, man, I think kind of you know the

1520
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 16: me think of you know, a veteran and you know,

1521
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 16: a leader. I think that's kind of the standard I

1522
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 16: learned from from David Andrews. He was great to me.

1523
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 16: He was you know, one of the first we met

1524
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 16: in the locker room. He was here every more early

1525
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 16: in the morning.

1526
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 4: He was uh yeah.

1527
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 16: I think just think about David is he did things

1528
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 16: outside and you know, took me to dinner and you

1529
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 16: paid for you know, massage from one of the ladies.

1530
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 16: He just does things that you know, bigger than football,

1531
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 16: and I think that's you know, stuff you care with

1532
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 16: the rest of your career, you know, wishing the best

1533
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 16: of him, and you know, one of those guys out

1534
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 16: keep in touch with a long time. I think, uh,

1535
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 16: you know, he had never you know, I think I

1536
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 16: took a couple of snapps them that end of the

1537
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 16: Jets games. But you know that next game he obviously

1538
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 16: got hurt. So he's a bummer out to really get

1539
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 16: to go out there and battle with them. But uh,

1540
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 16: he's the Nationaltball League and these things happened.

1541
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 9: Great.

1542
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: The year goes by so quick.

1543
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 3: You went right from the put into the draft and

1544
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 3: all the things that went with the drafts to here

1545
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:23,919
Speaker 3: to play.

1546
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 5: How did you use the offseason mentally? You can kind

1547
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 5: of get down a little bit and then.

1548
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's it was a little different because

1549
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 16: you got to learn a new system, so you have

1550
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 16: to take a break maybe, you know, through the Super Bowl,

1551
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 16: and once it got kind of you know, kicked, you know,

1552
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 16: got got ended. One super Bowl ended, you're kind of

1553
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 16: back into hey to be all my stuff. So when

1554
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 16: we get here, you know, at least I sound like

1555
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 16: I know what I'm talking about with the offense, and

1556
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 16: I think you definitely gonn take a break, And I

1557
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 16: think that's what you know. This four days are on

1558
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 16: three days off, you get to get a chance to

1559
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 16: you know, hang out or go back home or receive

1560
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 16: from people. I think that's one of the good things

1561
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 16: about the off season, to get a chance to kind

1562
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 16: of catch a break and then you know, four days

1563
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 16: on or five days however, want how much you want

1564
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 16: to work. So I think that's a good time for

1565
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 16: me to take some time off. But also at the

1566
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 16: same time, this is just what we do. This is

1567
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 16: what you know I want to do.

1568
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 4: So God us the trade this offseason.

1569
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 16: Your reaction, Yeah, texted Joe. You know, me and Joe,

1570
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 16: we came in together. We learned the offense together. We

1571
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 16: were competing every day to sleep out, throw each other

1572
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 16: and and practice. And obviously he's got a you know,

1573
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 16: a big arm, so uh, it was it was cool

1574
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 16: for him to you know, get a chance to you'll

1575
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 16: go hopefully and be back up. And I think you

1576
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 16: saw him the Bills game, his potential and I think, uh,

1577
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 16: he's fun because we got kind of similar play styles

1578
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 16: a little bit, and it was fun relating to our

1579
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 16: similar college offense to this offense, and it was cool

1580
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 16: to kind of be in the room and have somebody

1581
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 16: to bounced off ideas or hey, you remember doing this

1582
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 16: in college and and stuff like that, so you'll pull

1583
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 16: up for Joe, and you know, I know, probably you

1584
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 16: never know what to play him again or see him

1585
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 16: down the road.

1586
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 4: So thank you. Go back.

1587
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: And now great moments in.

1588
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 2: History.

1589
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 11: All you have to do is say the following four

1590
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:08,879
Speaker 11: words in quick succession whale oil, beef hooked, well.

1591
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 7: Or.

1592
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, saying in quick succession, will be ft?

1593
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,759
Speaker 4: Oh, well, well we'll all be will all be ft hooked?

1594
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: Whale oil.

1595
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 4: He's trying to get you to say, will all be

1596
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 4: f oh?

1597
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 3: We we will all be ft hooked?

1598
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 4: How does hook become f all be hooked?

1599
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: Hooked?

1600
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 3: I get it?

1601
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 4: All beef?

1602
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 14: Thank you?

1603
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 4: Oh I get it. I thought it'll all be f.

1604
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 4: I thought it was b Now I know it's beef.

1605
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 3: And then you used to with h I apologize him.

1606
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.

1607
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 4: I get it. No, because I was with him, I

1608
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 4: was with Fred, I didn't know what you were talking

1609
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 4: about him.

1610
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 5: Well, beef hooked.

1611
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,879
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

1612
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,280
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Speaker 11: Of the New England Patriots. They write tough copy, they

1621
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,799
Speaker 11: really do. I say tough tough copy. Tough copy.

1622
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 3: Clearly, do not read the copy aloud as they just words.

1623
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 4: Somehow, you don't seem to get as angry as Eric

1624
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 4: used to in virtually every one of those great moments

1625
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 4: in PU history. Oh yeah, the anger that comes out

1626
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 4: right away. He's trying to get you to say right

1627
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 4: and me and Fredick just said, I don't get it's

1628
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 4: not a good thing. I missed it. Yeah, okay, I

1629
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 4: see what you're saying, but I missed it. I apologize.

1630
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: Well, whenever it came to you know, alliteration or diction

1631
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: or anything like that, you know, there was no one

1632
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: in the room better than the great Eric Scalamino.

1633
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 4: The angry Eric's angry Eric.

1634
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 5: There was nothing is going to happen right.

1635
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 2: Some time, he stormed out and I had to go

1636
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 2: go retrieve him, bring him back in.

1637
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 12: Was that only once or didn't happen a couple of times?

1638
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 2: Well, he threatened to leave many times, but he actually

1639
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 2: only left once.

1640
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, he definitely threaten after you threw the witch

1641
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 5: you MC call it at him, like came out of

1642
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 5: your office.

1643
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 3: Threw it at him.

1644
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he would get very very impatient with me.

1645
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to hook him up with a girl.

1646
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: Nothing is gonna have this platform, you know, and here

1647
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 2: you are. It's better than any dating app. You're like,

1648
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 2: you know, make sure that people know that you're open

1649
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:13,560
Speaker 2: for business.

1650
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 4: Right all.

1651
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 5: I mean yes, Like I gotta be honest. So like

1652
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 5: I just I thought Eric was a really funny, really

1653
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 5: good guy. And that's like there's got to be a

1654
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 5: wonderful nice woman out there for him. Like I just

1655
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,759
Speaker 5: I never quite got it. I thought Eric was hilarious.

1656
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 5: I mean, he's one of the funniest people I've known.

1657
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 5: I mean, his impressions were legendary.

1658
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: Think about Eric, is he wants to be in that

1659
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 2: mentor mentee relationship. He wants to mentor somebody.

1660
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 5: He looked at like a twenty four years old.

1661
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 19: That's what I'm looking for.

1662
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 2: He wants to bestow his knowledge that nothing, nothing made

1663
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: me know that I was right then, prior to you,

1664
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 2: two generations before you are lifestyle writer. She came in

1665
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 2: and she was a she was a ball of fire,

1666
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: like you know, she didn't back down to anyone, and

1667
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 2: she was every bit of a traveler and a foodie

1668
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 2: that Eric thought. You know, so you know, Eric al

1669
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 2: was nervous, like how to pronounce different countries and different cities.

1670
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 2: So I'm at Tavolinos and they had the outdoor area,

1671
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,759
Speaker 2: so I'm sitting on one end and it wasn't crowded,

1672
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 2: and I see the two of them and they went,

1673
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: they had a lunch date.

1674
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 4: So I'm over. I'm over.

1675
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm just listening because I'm by myself, and all

1676
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 2: of a sudden, at all there lunch erupts in this

1677
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 2: debate about how a certain city was pronounced perfect, and

1678
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is you can't perfect, like you can't

1679
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 2: make it up. And I said, moops, He'll never They'll

1680
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: never last because he wants somebody that will accept everything

1681
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:48,759
Speaker 2: you're saying, and she wasn't going to accept.

1682
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it just I think the hard.

1683
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 5: Thing I realized too, is like, as I get older,

1684
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 5: I realized it must be really hard to find somebody

1685
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 5: as you get older and you kind of get set

1686
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 5: in your ways, and I'm like, int to the point now,

1687
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 5: I'm like, I like what I like. I don't need

1688
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 5: to like do all this different stuff. And you know,

1689
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 5: you're really trying to thread the needle. Whereas when you're

1690
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 5: in your twenties, you're still a little bit malleable. You're

1691
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 5: not exactly sure everything you like or.

1692
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 4: Don't like malleable.

1693
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 5: It's going, right, I gotta get death, and we haven't

1694
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 5: gotten deathing yet.

1695
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: We will still ready to be molded malleable. But I

1696
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 2: think that we should never stop wanting to learn. No,

1697
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 2: I agree, that's the wire man who knows.

1698
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 4: That's why.

1699
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 2: That's why Eric who knows everything.

1700
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 4: That's why Eric was never bored any day in his life,

1701
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 4: and his life couldn't.

1702
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 5: Even telling lies you you are you are an habitual liar, not.

1703
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 4: An habitual liar and habitual right, well, I just habitual.

1704
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 5: Like if I had to go back into the market again,

1705
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 5: like I would be like, Look, I don't I don't

1706
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 5: stay like nine. I don't starty to be at nine.

1707
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 4: Thirty like oatmeal every morning. You know you listen, Are

1708
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 4: you suddenly on the market?

1709
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 7: No?

1710
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you better not. You better not do anything like that.

1711
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 12: It's hard for like and I imagine I'm just it's

1712
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 12: harder for a woman at that age.

1713
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 5: Well, sure, I mean you've got I mean, you know,

1714
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 5: Perry menopo.

1715
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 2: You're just looking for some of the palace is on

1716
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 2: the toe.

1717
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 4: Another show. Just not speak for the rest of the

1718
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 4: men on the p U.

1719
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 3: This conversation is happening over there.

1720
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1721
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 2: You still like the sex?

1722
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 5: You're not going to say it's good.

1723
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:27,759
Speaker 12: Shows.

1724
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: I don't even know what to say.

1725
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 4: You can say, yes, I do so, Drake may huh.

1726
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's get back to the hotline. We'll

1727
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 2: go to Patty and agawam made five five past five hundred.

1728
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: What's up Patty?

1729
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 4: Save us?

1730
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:46,759
Speaker 8: Hey, lady and gentlemen, what's going on today? Pay question

1731
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 8: and a kind of a way too early hot take

1732
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 8: for the NFL.

1733
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 14: Be thick with.

1734
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 8: With Noel on the board, they went with Williams because

1735
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 8: they want to probably possibly have a more vertical attack

1736
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,560
Speaker 8: this year, and he's probably better to the death for that.

1737
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 8: Other the Knoll and my hot take is Paul, I'm

1738
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 8: kind of with you.

1739
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 14: I think bull Nick's low key thinks, and I.

1740
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 8: Think the hot take is Sean Pagan is probably going

1741
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 8: to be on the hot Become twenty twenty five.

1742
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 5: Wow, that's a great I like it.

1743
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 4: It's a very hot take, but I don't necessarily agree.

1744
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 5: I don't know I necessarily agree with it either, but

1745
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 5: I'm interested.

1746
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bonicks had a fall from Grace mac Jones style.

1747
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 3: I don't think I would be totally surprised now. I

1748
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 3: don't think it's going to happen. I wouldn't predict that,

1749
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 3: but as a bold hot take, I'm not totally.

1750
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 4: Maybe just being stubborn with this, I felt like bon

1751
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 4: Nicks was a lot better than rookie year mac Jones.

1752
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I would.

1753
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 5: Agree with that for sure.

1754
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,879
Speaker 3: I think they have similar I think you Bix more athletic.

1755
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 3: I think he's a better runner for sure. But in

1756
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 3: terms of they're throwing styles and you know where they

1757
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 3: win and how they win from the pocket, I think

1758
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 3: they they're similar in terms.

1759
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 4: Of I think his ability to get out of the

1760
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 4: pocket is something mac Jones could agreed agreed.

1761
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 3: Which might allow him to continue the success.

1762
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't. I mean Patty's right in that

1763
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 4: I am not a huge Bonicks believer. I think that

1764
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 4: he was put in a good situation for him. I

1765
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 4: think Sean Payton is a good quarterback, friendly coach in

1766
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 4: the system obviously has helped him that I all agree with.

1767
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 4: But I think that Bonnicks showed more ability and more

1768
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 4: playmaking than mac Jones ever did.

1769
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 5: I think he's got more off the field intangible kind

1770
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 5: of leadership stuff too. That just seems like guys want

1771
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 5: to follow Bonnicks. I know there's that shot of him

1772
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 5: psycho like you'll getting in some player's face, I think

1773
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 5: from the Raiders, Like I don't know, he just seems

1774
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 5: to have that.

1775
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 4: It will be interesting to see here too, though, you know,

1776
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 4: they make it jet to get a book on him

1777
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 4: and make some adjustments.

1778
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 2: Randy's in Brockton, Hey Randy, and hey, how's it going?

1779
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 19: Funny thing? By the way, the last time I called

1780
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 19: the sports radio show wasn't you guys? But I also

1781
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 19: followed Patty for magawom.

1782
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 2: Is that right? You guys are on the same schedule, right, Wait,

1783
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 2: you guys are shows they.

1784
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 4: You should know about that based on your previous comments.

1785
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:12,440
Speaker 14: So anyway, I'm.

1786
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,879
Speaker 19: Very excited about how the draft went for New England overall.

1787
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 19: I think even the reported leaks in Miami, I think

1788
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 19: that worked out better for.

1789
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 20: Us in the long run, because maybe we wouldn't have

1790
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 20: been in the market for Wilson later on, and I

1791
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 20: thought he was probably our best pick.

1792
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 19: I think like the center position is underrated as maybe

1793
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 19: the second. It's not the first most important spot on

1794
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 19: the line, where it's kind of like the anchor of

1795
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 19: the line, and I think.

1796
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 20: Like Kevin Will Campbell are going to be able to

1797
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 20: be lynchpin pieces for a long time become I think

1798
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 20: he could potentially challenge Brad Berry immediately, but I hope

1799
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 20: it seems like, yeah, it would.

1800
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 19: Be great, right.

1801
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 20: I mean, if you I was seeing the background of

1802
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 20: the kid, it's like, yeah, he's got.

1803
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 19: One year experience, but before that he was on the

1804
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 19: like essentially scout team for Georgia, growing up against.

1805
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 20: Like Jalen Carter and guys like that every day in practice.

1806
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 20: So I think he's he's more prepared than his experience

1807
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 20: might show.

1808
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 14: But I've been seeing a.

1809
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 19: Lot of early roster projections from.

1810
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 14: Like folks to cover the past over the.

1811
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 20: Past few days, and it looks to me like maybe

1812
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 20: twenty seven twenty eight players on the fifty three man

1813
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 20: final roster could be new. And I'm wondering if you

1814
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 20: guys can remember seeing any kind of massive roster turnever

1815
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 20: from one year to the next beat. I can't remember

1816
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 20: it on the Patriots, but on any other team. And

1817
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 20: I was also curious. I saw the details of Laye

1818
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 20: Laris's contract that kind of looked like they think he

1819
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 20: might make the roster.

1820
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 18: A do you think that he pushes gives him down

1821
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 18: the depth chart or even entirely off the roster and

1822
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,759
Speaker 18: beads you see do you know any other contract details

1823
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 18: from some of the other UDFA specifically Dipper lamp purchase

1824
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 18: or that might give us an indication of the teams

1825
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 18: believe in their ability to make the roster.

1826
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Randy. I mean when you look at those contracts,

1827
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: a lot of it it's based on how many other

1828
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,600
Speaker 2: teams were asking to sign them as well. Sometimes a

1829
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 2: UDFA can get more than a seventh round pick.

1830
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, gets a pick where they want to go.

1831
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 4: That definitely happens. I would just caution never look at

1832
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 4: an UDFA contract as if to say he will he

1833
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 4: has a better shot or a worse shot. Right, It's

1834
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 4: never difference making money in terms of whether or not

1835
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 4: we're going to keep a player.

1836
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for but it does sometimes talk to the demand.

1837
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 4: Now the twenty No, No, that's absolutely fact. Yeah, you know,

1838
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 4: and there's a lot of factors that go into why

1839
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 4: one guy got more guaranteed money to sign. And Fred's right, like,

1840
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 4: sometimes they know that there's competition for different guys. I

1841
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 4: would just say that, you know, if someone's getting like,

1842
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 4: you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars in the signing bonus,

1843
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 4: that's not going to prohibit him from getting cut. If

1844
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 4: he doesn't do anything in training camp, like, that's not

1845
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 4: an indication that that guy has got an inside track

1846
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 4: for a roster spot. If he goes out and he performs,

1847
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 4: that's different. But no team is going to say, well, jeez,

1848
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 4: we gave him three hundred grand. You can't cut them.

1849
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 4: Like I've seen guys get cut over millions, let alone

1850
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands.

1851
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: Of dollars Maury from Austria, right say, he says from Wikipedia,

1852
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: this is about the Hernanas Tbow discussion. The Patriots signed

1853
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 2: t Bow on June tenth, twenty thirteen, the day before

1854
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 2: the team's mandatory mini camp. On June twenty six, twenty thirteen,

1855
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 2: so this is sixteen days later, Hernanuz was charged with

1856
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 2: first degree murder. Wow, so maybe the previous caller is

1857
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 2: onto something.

1858
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 4: Maybe so maybe tebo failed too late obviously. Yeah, no,

1859
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously this stuff already happened. I was just

1860
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 4: being snarky, But I do think that there's a possibility.

1861
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 5: It makes more sense than that.

1862
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 4: They felt that would be a you know, a stabilizing factor.

1863
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 4: If you go back and now you look at all

1864
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 4: the Hernandez docks that have come out, you know now

1865
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 4: how much the team was concerned. You know, Hernandez had

1866
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 4: gone to Belichick as an example, looking to get out

1867
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 4: of town, so they knew there was reason to do

1868
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 4: something like that. If in fact that had had something

1869
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 4: to do with it would make some sense to me.

1870
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I just said, it makes more sense than

1871
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 5: thinking he's going to play quarterback here.

1872
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, the overhaul of the roster was another part

1873
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 4: of that call. Yeah, I mean this is this is

1874
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 4: going to be a lot. But I mean, yeah, two

1875
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 4: thousands to two thousand and one, they brought in twenty

1876
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 4: something free agents. This is not quite that many free agents,

1877
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 4: but with you know, you put the draft picks in

1878
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 4: and stuff, there's going to be an overhaul. I think

1879
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 4: teams that rebuild do this. Yeah. I mean I don't

1880
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 4: have this specific big numbers to say twenty whatever this

1881
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 4: year is more than anybody else. Maybe that might be

1882
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 4: the absolute most, but I think you see guys come

1883
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 4: in first year coaches with a team that needs a

1884
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 4: heavy rebuilds, they just rip it down to the studs

1885
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 4: and start over again. I think that happens a lot.

1886
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 3: I mean Washington just did this last year, and I

1887
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 3: think that's sort of the model. I mean, we go

1888
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 3: back to twenty you know, two thousand and one, because

1889
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 3: you guys were here for that, but not every you know,

1890
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 3: the national media doesn't go back that far like Washington

1891
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 3: right now is being held up as like that's how

1892
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,560
Speaker 3: you do the one year rebuild. Right like that, you

1893
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 3: go out, you sign ten to twelve NFL starters in

1894
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 3: free agency, not necessarily stars, but just guys that can

1895
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 3: plug holes and they can start at the NFL level.

1896
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 3: You draft a young quarterback and then you hope that

1897
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 3: it all comes together.

1898
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 5: You guys think that they're going to follow the regression

1899
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 5: to the means second year free agency bump theory that

1900
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 5: we've talked about a lot here.

1901
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 4: So I don't know, because they didn't sign a lot

1902
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 4: of big likes, right, you know, it was like Bobby

1903
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 4: Wagner and you know, Zach Ertz, Like there wasn't like

1904
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 4: five years, one hundred and twenty million to bring in

1905
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 4: the highest priced guy on the market. So maybe it

1906
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 4: won't be as much about that they've done a lot

1907
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,560
Speaker 4: this year. For me, it's all about Jayden Daniels. Like

1908
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 4: I think that you can have a magical rebuild and

1909
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 4: we can talk all about the story two thousand and

1910
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 4: one free agent class, and they had a lot of

1911
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 4: good play, you know, Mike Compton and Mike Rabel, Larry

1912
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 4: Iso and all those guys that came in and they

1913
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 4: performed right away and they helped the team. They improved

1914
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 4: the team. They were rowing two when Tom Brady took over.

1915
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 4: You know, So it comes down to if Drake May

1916
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 4: does what we we all think he can do, the

1917
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 4: Patriots will be a lot better. But if he doesn't

1918
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:54,759
Speaker 4: and you still have your questions Mike about turnovers and clutch,

1919
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 4: we're probably going to be sitting there saying it was

1920
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 4: still kind of you know, mid at Paul.

1921
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 2: In New Jersey writes in I.

1922
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 12: I could tell you were waiting.

1923
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 10: For some.

1924
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 4: Affirmation. That's all here, It's all I'm looking for. Well, Paul, yes,

1925
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 4: you used to correct You're yes.

1926
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: Paul in New Jersey. A live scout at Rutgers home games,

1927
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 2: live scouts, Live scouts. I was able to watch Trevion

1928
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 2: Henderson last year when Ohio State played Rutgers. I expected

1929
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: to be blown away by Marvin Harrison. I think they

1930
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 2: He actually ended up with three touchdowns, but Henderson went

1931
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 2: for over two hundred yards. It was really He really

1932
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: stole the show. Even when they were trying to kill

1933
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 2: the clock, he was gaining eight plus yards per rush.

1934
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 2: Before that game, Rutgers was a top ten defense in

1935
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 2: college football. So there you go.

1936
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,759
Speaker 4: A live scout, live scouting from the mouth of Babes

1937
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 4: Yep Boots on the ground says, I love that.

1938
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 3: To get in the trenches poly. You know, it can

1939
01:25:59,040 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 3: always be from me.

1940
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 4: I'm a scale guy outside.

1941
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,560
Speaker 3: I gotta talk to the coaches. You gotta go on

1942
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 3: the sideline pre game. How does he warm up? What's

1943
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 3: his body that ever appeal to you?

1944
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 15: Like?

1945
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 5: I mean, just gonna have the world like going to

1946
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 5: different college stadiums every week.

1947
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 4: Why are you bringing that up now? No?

1948
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if that scratches the itch. Like

1949
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 5: there's also just the perspective. I want to watch NFL

1950
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 5: game film and break down off of you know what

1951
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 5: I mean. But there's a whole different style of I'm

1952
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 5: just spending my whole fall on the road, of course,

1953
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 5: but you're just watching a lot of college I mean

1954
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 5: it's I hear all the time Jordan Reid talking about

1955
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 5: what his fall is like going to all these you know,

1956
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:35,919
Speaker 5: it's just on the road game.

1957
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 2: Ten wouldn't be best so you can go to Hawaii.

1958
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure if it still existed.

1959
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure how Jess would feel about that life.

1960
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I don't think it's that would be

1961
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 3: a tough sell, I would say, because I there. You know,

1962
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 3: we go on the road to road games, but they're

1963
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 3: on the road twenty four seven. Like, you know, they're

1964
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 3: on the road six days a week. It's definitely a

1965
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 3: different animal, but it's very it's very uh, it's appealing

1966
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. In some ways. You know,

1967
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 3: it's kind of like any job, like you you have

1968
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 3: to polish the silverware, and you know, some of it

1969
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:12,879
Speaker 3: is just kind of filling out biographical information and you know, owls,

1970
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 3: this guy, hiet weight speed, you know, like that kind

1971
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 3: of stuff. And you know it's it's not as like

1972
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 3: I we get to just do the fun part, which

1973
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 3: is just let's just watch this guy and see if

1974
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 3: we like him, right, you know, like they have to

1975
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 3: do the actual Like.

1976
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 5: I think if I was given the choice, if they said,

1977
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 5: all right, dude, you're going to be a scout, pro

1978
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 5: scouting door or college scouting door, I'll probably stick in

1979
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 5: the pro scouting. I just I enjoy the NFL game more.

1980
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 5: It's less chaotic. It feels like it's easier to find themes,

1981
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 5: whereas it feels like the wild wild West in college football,

1982
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 5: where it's big play, turnover, penalty, big play, those kind

1983
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 5: of things. Hard. It's a really hard job.

1984
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, speaking friends and I'm hoping to start

1985
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 2: a semantic debate, perhaps one that even blossoms into a

1986
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 2: Fred Paul knockdown dragout of focus.

1987
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 4: We can do this.

1988
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 2: The term of concern here is rebuild. How far are

1989
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 2: we into a rebuild? Have there been multiple rebuilds since

1990
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,440
Speaker 2: Brady left? Or is it all one rebuild? In retrospect,

1991
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 2: the multiple regime changes make it seem like multiple from

1992
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 2: build with Brady to Build without Brady, to Mayo to Vrabel,

1993
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 2: And yet it also seems like one big rebuild because

1994
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 2: it's on the heels of one gigantic dynasty, though there's

1995
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 2: also the semantics of whether it was one or several dynasties.

1996
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 2: So I don't really like the term.

1997
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 5: Because it just implies that you will rebuild it like

1998
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 5: there's no assurance that you're.

1999
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:35,839
Speaker 2: Ever going.

2000
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 12: Philosophical right now, I don't even know that you act.

2001
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 5: Like And of course, now when we get to year

2002
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 5: six of the rebuild will be flawless and we'll have

2003
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 5: everything we need. Like it's just every year is its

2004
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 5: own thing. You look at new coaches like new Coaches

2005
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 5: was last year rebuild. They kept a lot of the

2006
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 5: same players. This year feels a lot different. A lot

2007
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 5: of different players, but it's still every year you're trying

2008
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 5: to rebuild the team every year.

2009
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 2: I think, like I understand, I think that this year

2010
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,560
Speaker 2: marks a rebuild. You know, you have the quarterbacks, so

2011
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 2: that's that's a big part of any rebuild. But they

2012
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 2: needed to build around him, right, and kind of rebuild

2013
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 2: around him, and what they've done on defense. I mean,

2014
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 2: isn't that kind of like a rebuild too?

2015
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2016
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 4: I think that you can make an argument that post Brady, Okay,

2017
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 4: they tried to rebuild once with the twenty one free

2018
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 4: agent class, then they decided that didn't work. Bill got fired,

2019
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 4: Mayo came in. This is the second attempt to rebuild.

2020
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 4: I would say this is year two of the second

2021
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 4: attempt to rebuild post Brady.

2022
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I would look at I think Bill

2023
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 3: was given the opportunity to rebuild post Brady and failed,

2024
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 3: So that ends that attempt of a rebuild. And then

2025
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 3: last year they started, they drafted Drake may and they

2026
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 3: started and again, and obviously there's a coaching change, But

2027
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 3: to me, this is still the same attempt getting the

2028
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 3: roster up and running just toptfully.

2029
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 5: But can you use the term rebuild for a team

2030
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 5: that hasn't been successful in the last ten years. They

2031
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 5: are or they've just been.

2032
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 4: But they've been trying to rebuild. I would say the

2033
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 4: Jets have had many iterations of a rebuild. Like this

2034
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 4: isn't the same as Zach Wilson.

2035
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 5: They never had the building, you know what I mean,

2036
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 5: Like there was never a building there, Paul, You can't

2037
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 5: rebuild what doesn't exactly what ben the Jets have been

2038
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 5: building since nineteen seventy one.

2039
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 12: Permits you got to redo all of that.

2040
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,640
Speaker 2: Or you know, lived in a town where there's that

2041
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:38,600
Speaker 2: one building on a commercial lot that always seems to

2042
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 2: like get halfway done and it stops, you know, because

2043
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 2: they ran out of money or the you know, the

2044
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 2: backer went out of business or whatever, and it just

2045
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 2: never seems to get built. And then finally somebody comes

2046
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 2: in and finish and gets rid of all the toxic

2047
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 2: stuff that was supposed to be taken out, you know,

2048
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 2: like they do the hard work and they get it done.

2049
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 2: And that's kind of like what a lot of teams

2050
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 2: go through, including us.

2051
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like we're you know, when you're

2052
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 3: on a plane and you're taking off and it feels

2053
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 3: like you should have already lifted off the ground, but

2054
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,719
Speaker 3: you still haven't, and you're kind of like, wait, it's

2055
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 3: like we've been we've been going a long way here

2056
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 3: and you're kind of like lifting but you're not all

2057
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 3: the way, and like we're still trying to get that

2058
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 3: last kick to get us off the ground. That's happening,

2059
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 3: and hopefully and hopefully no comment and hopefully Rabels is

2060
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 3: like the last you know, it is the one that

2061
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 3: that puts the air under the wings and is the

2062
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 3: last kick. But the wings right now, I feel like

2063
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 3: we've been on that runway for like five years, so like,

2064
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 3: hopefully this is what we need.

2065
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 5: A good thing. We're not a logan would be in

2066
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 5: the ocean now.

2067
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 7: You know.

2068
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 2: It's funny, you know in the summer that they signed

2069
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 2: Cam Newton, Yeah, that was not a rebuild. That was

2070
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:52,639
Speaker 2: just trying to keep it going.

2071
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 7: You know.

2072
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 2: That was like, let's see if we can even.

2073
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 12: That free age in class felt like a lot of

2074
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 12: like if you had the more viable quarterback, felt like

2075
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 12: win now guys as opposed to start from scratch, so

2076
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 12: it was like almost we were patching holes.

2077
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 5: Yea.

2078
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:10,799
Speaker 3: That whole those two seasons, just like the two thousand

2079
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 3: year or twenty twenty year. I just gold of like

2080
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 3: throw out.

2081
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 4: That, really, yeah, that's sort of the after MA. And

2082
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 4: then I think they started to try to rebuild in

2083
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 4: twenty one with it reshaping the roster, and they gave

2084
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 4: that a couple of years. It didn't work, so they said, okay,

2085
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 4: we're still rebuilding. This is the second attempt to rebuild

2086
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,560
Speaker 4: post Brady, in my opinion, and I think that you

2087
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 4: guys are right, Like you bring in a quarterback, so

2088
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 4: this is now the Drake may or so much like

2089
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 4: you mentioned the Jets, I think that they they tried

2090
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 4: to rebuild with Sam Darnold and then decided, well, that's

2091
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 4: not working. We're gonna have to go another direction. We're

2092
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 4: going to go Zach Wilson. Okay, that's not working. We

2093
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 4: got to go in another direction. This is like at

2094
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 4: least the third just in that time for it.

2095
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 2: Let's see, here's where maybe we'll get into an argument.

2096
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 2: I think when you have pieces and you're trying to

2097
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 2: find that quarterback, that's not rebuilding. That's the quarterback search,

2098
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 2: the quarterback cast or carousel.

2099
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 3: You haven't even let the gate yet, you know, but

2100
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 3: like you've got first.

2101
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 2: Round picks on your defensive line and in your in

2102
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:13,480
Speaker 2: your backfield.

2103
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 4: That's why I say this, this is a different version

2104
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 4: for the Jets. Like they have some talent, but it's

2105
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 4: not necessarily but they just but they of course they're rebuilding.

2106
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 2: No, they're just trying to find a quarterback.

2107
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 4: No, they have to find wins. Okay, like they can't win.

2108
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 2: I know that's true, But I'm talking about in terms

2109
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 2: of personnel. They're not rebuilding their team because they've got talent.

2110
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 2: They just need a quarterback.

2111
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 4: But you don't think they added like Garrett Wilson. So

2112
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 4: you did it speak We found every team adds people

2113
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,799
Speaker 4: every year, but those are the guys that they're building

2114
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 4: with the three. To me, it starts with those three

2115
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 4: first round picks like four years ago. Okay, Sauce Garrett

2116
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 4: Wilson and Johnson.

2117
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 11: Yeah right, Like every year we go into it and say,

2118
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 11: you know what if that quarterback a whether it's Aaron

2119
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 11: Rodgers or whoever, as well, they've got the talent.

2120
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:03,879
Speaker 2: They've got the talent to compete.

2121
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 4: I know, but they just got the talent, but they

2122
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 4: just had it a few years now. This is this

2123
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 4: will be the fourth right, they've had it for three years.

2124
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 4: This is again they're in a rebuild.

2125
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.

2126
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 4: I think the Patriots are in year two of a rebuild.

2127
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 4: The Jets are in year four of a rebuild. I think, like,

2128
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 4: I don't think it's that complicated.

2129
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 11: My point is the Jets have been built. They just

2130
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 11: don't have a quarterback and maybe not so he.

2131
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 3: Was right, he got us Jets are in year one

2132
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 3: because it's a totally new regime, like they have a new.

2133
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 4: Generally, But the Patriots are in a new regime too.

2134
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 4: But I don't think this is a different.

2135
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 2: But Elliott's still here, so like but no, but if

2136
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel was here, he would say, no, this is

2137
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 2: year one. I don't care what happened last year.

2138
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2139
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 2: No, this is now my team, and I'm building it

2140
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 2: the way I want.

2141
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 3: That's apparent.

2142
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 5: I think the Jets are in year fifty five of

2143
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:51,799
Speaker 5: a rebuild.

2144
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 2: It's you can make that case.

2145
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 5: Are many different pairs of it.

2146
01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 12: Going back to like friend's analogy to the Jets are

2147
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 12: like it's a it's a business or it's a building

2148
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 12: where no business survives over and over again, everything that

2149
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 12: comes and fails. They last like a year whereas we like,

2150
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 12: we're building a house, but we just had to get

2151
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 12: a new contractor we're.

2152
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 3: Still going to try it, but somebody was built.

2153
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 12: But now we had a mansion in the nineties, we're

2154
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 12: updating it and we had to get a new contractor.

2155
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 2: Okay, good good space, Johnny and Matt Town. I haven't

2156
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 2: been able to write in for a while to do

2157
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 2: a family health situation. Almost three months ago, my brother

2158
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 2: Carlos or Charlie, was found unresponsive by his caretaker at

2159
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 2: his home. After a battle trying to fight off what

2160
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 2: ended up being an incurable infection. We lost him on

2161
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 2: April thirteenth. I just wanted to take this time to

2162
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 2: thank you guys for pu the Draft Show and all

2163
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 2: the content you produce. It's helped me get through one

2164
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 2: of the most difficult times of my life. If you

2165
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Speaker 2: all have siblings, please let them know you love them today.

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Speaker 2: At some point when my brother passed away, he was

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01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 2: covered by a new England Patriots blanket, the team we

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Speaker 2: maintain our fandom for even after moving to Wisconsin from Maine.

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Speaker 2: He'll definitely be enjoying front row seats to watch the

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Speaker 2: Patriots every Sunday. From the other side. Thank you. Every

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Speaker 2: once in a while we hear stories like that, how

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01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 2: we give some entertainment to people who are going through

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Speaker 2: tough things, and that makes me feel good. Snry for loss,

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Speaker 2: let's see. Nate writes in says, I've been making content

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01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 2: on the Patriots. I mostly focus on Instagram as my

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01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 2: platform for sharing. I'm trying to get on podcast. This

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Speaker 2: whole journey is exciting. I'm seventeen years old and this

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Speaker 2: is definitely something I wanted to get into. I just

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Speaker 2: want to say thank you for being inspiring and showing

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Speaker 2: why it's worth to chase your dreams. I think he's

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Speaker 2: talking to YouTube.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I was maybe you two. I was going

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Speaker 4: to give you the credit. Fred No, but solding and

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Speaker 4: shaping young minds everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bad way.

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Speaker 5: Just yeah, stick with it, find your niche. That's what

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01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 5: try to tell everybody, you know, carve out a little way.

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01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 5: Stupid hoodie database was a way to, you know, make.

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Speaker 4: My blog, just have something, to try to come up

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Speaker 4: with something more relevantly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah right, but it's as Claire's doing. Like, give

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Speaker 5: Claire props. She continues to blast out her podcast. You know, hello,

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Speaker 5: you love it. And you got the passion for I mean,

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Speaker 5: it never felt like work to me. It was always

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Speaker 5: just like my passionate hobby. And you know, if it

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Speaker 5: doesn't feel like where you, I hope you can get

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Speaker 5: the opportunity to work in a job.

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Speaker 3: Take it till you make it, just you know, look

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Speaker 3: at people that that you like their work and try

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01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 3: to emulate it. Try to take things from it, you know,

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Speaker 3: and just try to do it how they do it.

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01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 3: Like that's the best advice you can get. I mean,

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01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 3: the niche advice is really good too, you know. I

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01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 3: rag on Barth a lot, but like he found a

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01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 3: niche with the draft, he found a niche with specialists,

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01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 3: which I like to make fun of him for. But

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01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 3: yesterday on Catch twenty two, I don't think anybody knew

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01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 3: more about the long snapper than Alex Bark. Now you

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01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 3: might think that that's irrelevant, but people come to our

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01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 3: show to listen to Alex talk about kickers and long snappers.

2211
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:06,719
Speaker 3: When they draft kickers and long snappers. It's a niche

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01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 3: that he, you know, has cornered.

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Speaker 5: So that's on those long snaps we got we got talking.

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Speaker 3: He was we had it all we had, we had

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Speaker 3: the time, you know, the time from the snap to

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Speaker 3: the hole to the kick, the operation time, and you

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01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 3: know how the ashby is more of like a straight line,

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Speaker 3: you know, get out and make tackles type of long

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Speaker 3: you know, aggressive long snapper blocking longnid.

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Speaker 5: That was one of my favorite stories from uh from

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Speaker 5: Draft Night, which a little bit behind the scenes was

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01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 5: you know, we obviously have a whole system and the

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01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 5: player gets selected and then everybody's got their jobs to do,

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Speaker 5: and UH, wonderful Casey. Her job is to find highlights

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Speaker 5: of players, and so we draft the long snapper and

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01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 5: then I see Casey like, don't have highlights looking for them,

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01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 5: and I just like, what do you do for long snap?

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Speaker 2: Lights?

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01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 3: Like he made some tackles, so God bless Casey.

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Speaker 5: She found him and I was like fire emoji, but

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01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 5: she literally, I mean, I'm like, are they gonna just

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Speaker 5: show the snaps or do you show the punt too, like.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you find out who the punch was.

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01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 3: And that's what she did originally, Like Marcus Bryant, she

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01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 3: was taking membu highlights. Didn't move the arrow over. She

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01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 3: called me over and she's like, can you just double

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01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 3: check that this is I highlighted the right guy, but

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01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 3: that actually made a tackle against Alabama, Like he's got

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01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 3: some tackles on his tape.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, somebody out Yeah, Doctor Sam writes in says, I'm

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01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 11: not trying to hate on Paul and his buddies Volger

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01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 11: and Maz, but my god, they are negative.

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01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 2: It makes me wonder how someone can be that negative.

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01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 4: Paul.

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Speaker 2: Is it a stick or do they truly believe this?

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Speaker 4: I think it's probably like anything else, it's a combination

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01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 4: of both. Yeah, I think they play into it. I

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01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 4: think Mike plays into it a little bit, knowing that

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Speaker 4: it's gonna resonate. But I mean, at the same time

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Speaker 4: I heard I didn't hear most of this stuff early

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Speaker 4: in the week. I did hear a lot yesterday, and

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01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 4: they just kept coming up with all of the comments

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01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,639
Speaker 4: from last year's draft and how over the top positive

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01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:09,640
Speaker 4: every single comment was. So it's not like they just

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Speaker 4: make it up. Now. Did they lean into it and

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Speaker 4: accentuate it for stick YEP. I think they do, And

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Speaker 4: I think they enjoy it. They know it's going to resonate,

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01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 4: they know it's going to rankle the Feathers Show. Yeah,

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01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 4: it's like they're trying to entertain.

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Speaker 3: But like what I would say, people were high on

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Speaker 3: that draft last year, but like not like this well

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01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 3: and not like the people sit in here like I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, you can I can have them read it to you.

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Speaker 4: I can tell I can show you the a pluses

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Speaker 4: for Javon Baker from everyone they read. This is what

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Speaker 4: I mean, like people just I just revisioned him. He

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01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,599
Speaker 4: read like ten different guys. Yeah, from who though, I mean,

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01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 4: you can find them all the national guys.

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Speaker 2: They thought this draft was as good as I mean.

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Speaker 4: No, last year they were overwhelmingly positive about the picks,

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Speaker 4: especially Javon Baker.

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Speaker 3: But saying that you thought that.

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Speaker 4: Fred An A is an A. I don't know. Did

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Speaker 4: they like this one better than that one? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think the average for last year was like C

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Speaker 2: plus P but it.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't and they have the no from what I saw,

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Speaker 4: but they I'm just telling you them.

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Speaker 2: I don't care, Okay, Like maybe I'm wrong, I just

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01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 2: don't remember. I can just tell you that people being

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Speaker 2: as excited as this last year.

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Speaker 4: Everybody was telling me that Jalen Polk was going to

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01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 4: fit right in as a starter and be like an

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Speaker 4: unbelievably productive player and be better than would you have

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01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 4: an upgraded version of Jacoby Myers is what people were

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01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 4: saying after the draft last year. Okay, okay, So I

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01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 4: don't know is that better or worse than what people

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01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 4: were saying about kyowam saying?

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Speaker 2: I don't wrong, I just don't remember the enthusiasm people

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01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 2: thought it was an okay.

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Speaker 4: Right, I feel like the but you know, I feel

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01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 4: like the enthusiasm right now is at a very high

2293
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 4: level for this draft. Yeah, I'm just going to speak

2294
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 4: to that, no doubt present people.

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Speaker 2: Some people said it was the best draft in the NFL.

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01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 4: This I bumped into I heard that. I bumped into

2297
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 4: Evan I mean Wolf leaving the building the other day.

2298
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 4: I just said to him, you know, like, you know,

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01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 4: made small talk about that, and I said, hey, just

2300
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 4: to let you know, when we're doing our shows, there's

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01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 4: a lot of excitement, there's a lot of optimism. It

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01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 4: really felt good about what what happened over the weekend

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01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 4: and this just and he goes, no, we do too,

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01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,560
Speaker 4: and we're hoping that it pans out. But like I

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01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 4: believe that. I didn't just say that because I ran

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01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 4: into the general manager. I said that because That's what

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01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 4: my interaction was Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Well, I'll tell

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01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 4: you what yesterday one and what did I say?

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Speaker 3: Immediately?

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01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 4: I did the same thing to Elliott wall.

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01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 3: I know, I know, but I think with the Javon

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01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 3: Baker because it's a fair point. I like the Javon

2313
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 3: Baker pick too, but I just liked the pick where

2314
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 3: they got him, Like I just liked the upside of

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01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 3: a fourth round pick, Like I saw a guy that

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01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 3: had the talent of probably like a second round pick, right,

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01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 3: And I think, but the difference is is like we're

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01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 3: just evaluating the draft in the moment, knowing what we

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01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 3: knew pre draft.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 3: No one is sitting there saying that these guys are

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01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:06,559
Speaker 3: all going to go on to be Hall of Famers.

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01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 3: It's just for the information that you had going into

2324
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 3: the draft. How do you feel about the guys that

2325
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 3: they picked? I mean, Duce and I with Jalen Polk,

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01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 3: we were not you were not as high as everybody

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01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 3: or not.

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01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,560
Speaker 4: I've defended both of you. I've defended both of you

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01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 4: on that fact many times. But the bottom line is this,

2330
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 4: I hear you. So when I agree with Fred, the

2331
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 4: enthusiasm in The excitement right now is very high, I

2332
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 4: think with Mike and Tony, and I'm not trying to

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01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 4: defend them because they are negative and they do a

2334
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 4: lot of this stuff knowing that it's going to bother people,

2335
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 4: and they know what resonates and all that, So I'm

2336
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:43,919
Speaker 4: not defending them. They're big boys, they can defend themselves.

2337
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:46,560
Speaker 4: But what they're trying to point out is not that

2338
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,559
Speaker 4: this draft stinks, not that this draft isn't as good

2339
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 4: as you think it is. Right, They're just telling you

2340
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 4: to have some caution and wait to see because a

2341
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 4: lot of the stuff people are saying right now is

2342
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 4: not all that different than what people was saying last

2343
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 4: year in the year before, and they went back and

2344
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 4: got the information to back it up. I like you

2345
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 4: had you had something about the Dane Brugler on catch

2346
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:15,680
Speaker 4: twenty two who said you felt like this was the

2347
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 4: best draft in football this year. Yeah, I don't think

2348
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 4: anyone said that last year. Now, so there's even more

2349
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 4: excitement about this draft, Yeah, without anybody playing it down.

2350
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm trying to think of a time, whether it

2351
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 2: was our draft or someone else's, where someone said, boy,

2352
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 2: this is a bad draft and it turned out to

2353
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:34,759
Speaker 2: be a great.

2354
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 12: Oh there was one. There was a there was a

2355
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,679
Speaker 12: clip circulating. I think it was like the twenty twelve

2356
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 12: Seahawks draft. PFT commenter had a clip circulating where they

2357
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 12: drafted Russell Wilson and like the whole legion of Bloom,

2358
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 12: like legion of Boom, a bunch of those guys and

2359
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 12: they got an F And this Bleacher Report writer was

2360
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 12: just tearing the Seahawks to shreds talking about how they

2361
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 12: drafted a quarterback that didn't fit their system at all,

2362
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 12: and then they went and won a super Bowl like

2363
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 12: a year two years later.

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01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 2: Was he on an island or where there were a

2365
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:01,520
Speaker 2: lot of commentators.

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01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,599
Speaker 12: Well, I didn't go that far back to look at.

2367
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 4: I'll tell you one thing that I saw for this

2368
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 4: because again, I think all of the reactions for this

2369
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 4: draft of all, I haven't seen anything really even close

2370
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 4: to negative. I think I saw one C something plus

2371
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 4: B minus. Okay, that must be the one I'm talking about.

2372
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 4: But I saw like NFL dot Com grades all the drafts.

2373
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 4: Do you know the take a guess what the lowest

2374
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 4: grade any team got? B minus? Like how can everybody

2375
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 4: be good?

2376
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 2: Especially?

2377
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 4: That's what I said, right that's not occurred.

2378
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 3: So somebody on Twitter, his name is Renee Buckner. I

2379
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 3: think it is around. He does a consensus of all

2380
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 3: of the grades. Every year he puts out a tweet

2381
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 3: of all of you know, the top the top draft

2382
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 3: guys all in one. So this year the Patriots are

2383
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 3: number one. They had the consensus best draft.

2384
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 4: And I don't find that surprising at all. Yeah, I

2385
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 4: think that that was anecdotally, That's what I thought. Yeah,

2386
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 4: last year they were twelve, so middle pretty high. It

2387
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 4: is still pretty but still pretty.

2388
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 3: So they he does it.

2389
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 4: It's kind of cool.

2390
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 3: He averages a GPA out of like, you know, AA

2391
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 3: plus P plus. So last year their GPA was three

2392
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 3: point two. Yeah, three point two. This year was over

2393
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 3: three six.

2394
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 4: So I'll say this to to Rip Felger in MATS

2395
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 4: a little bit. I kind of defended them a little bit.

2396
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 4: So twelve, okay, So what they do is they selectively

2397
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 4: do because obviously there were people that thought three point

2398
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 4: two it's not a bad grade. So there were people

2399
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:45,559
Speaker 4: that had a lot of nice things to say, that's

2400
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,679
Speaker 4: what they read. They didn't read the ones that brought

2401
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 4: it down to a three point two because there was

2402
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 4: probably more people last year that didn't like the draft

2403
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 4: than this year. But that doesn't work for their their

2404
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 4: argument in the moment, so they leave that out. They

2405
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 4: go with Felger facts. It's nothing that they didn't say

2406
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 4: anything wrong. They attributed a positive comment to whoever said

2407
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 4: it about Jay Von Baker. Yeah, but they left out

2408
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 4: the part that maybe three other people didn't have as

2409
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 4: nice things to say about Jalen Polk because that doesn't

2410
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 4: fit their narrative at the time. That's what they do

2411
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 4: a lot, and it just within context, and it goes

2412
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:22,639
Speaker 4: back to what we spoke about earlier in the show.

2413
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 5: Getting Drake May at three. Overall, for me colored the

2414
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,680
Speaker 5: whole draft. It was you're kind of like, okay, you

2415
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:29,720
Speaker 5: know at the time when they took Layden Robinson and

2416
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 5: Kayden Wallace kind of like, eh, you know, there were

2417
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 5: some questions about needing the left tackle. I agree with

2418
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 5: the point on Polk, And it's like, because I really

2419
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,519
Speaker 5: did like Polk, Like I like, you guys paint me

2420
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 5: out as being like depressed when they took him. I

2421
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 5: just was mad at the spot, you know, like I

2422
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 5: just felt like the second we needed a little more

2423
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:48,640
Speaker 5: dynamic energy, like Kyle Williams has That's why I was

2424
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 5: more excited about him in the third round. But but

2425
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 5: I just think Drake may kind of colored last year's

2426
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 5: draft and the reaction to it of what you feel like,

2427
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 5: you got the guy it's the hardest piece to get,

2428
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 5: and you felt he didn't have those athletic limitations where

2429
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 5: when they drafted Mac you were like, well, I just

2430
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 5: think he can execute it and get ball distributor and

2431
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 5: you know he's going to make the right play and

2432
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:08,760
Speaker 5: he's not going to throw stupid interceptions back across the

2433
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 5: field three times like that kind of Oh, I think.

2434
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 4: I think that's I think that's fair.

2435
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 2: Paul, do you remember probably like we've you know, in

2436
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 2: the thirty years I've been here, we've had drafts where people,

2437
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 2: most of the people said that was a good draft.

2438
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 2: But do you remember a draft where the consensus was

2439
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 2: we had the best draft?

2440
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 4: I don't. Oh, yeah, I thought you were going to say,

2441
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 4: do you remember a draft that we ever had that

2442
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 4: people said wasn't a good one? And I can't. Yeah,

2443
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 4: I can't think of a single one.

2444
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:35,560
Speaker 2: Do you remember one where they said that was the

2445
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 2: best draft?

2446
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 4: Not off the top of my head, but I would

2447
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 4: assume that, yes.

2448
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 5: I would speculate twelve maybe got some of that just

2449
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 5: with two first round picks.

2450
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 4: I would say that when when Belichick and listen, I'm

2451
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 4: not trying to make fun of Bill because he was

2452
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 4: on a heater for a while and when he was

2453
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 4: in his heyday in like the mid odts, when it

2454
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 4: was just ripping out pick after pick after pick, I'll

2455
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 4: guarantee you they would consider to have the best draft

2456
01:48:58,400 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 4: like in one of those years. But no, I don't.

2457
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 4: I don't have that information.

2458
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think and this is a me thing

2459
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 3: totally with with with your shows, Like it's hard for me,

2460
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 3: as as someone that puts so much into the draft

2461
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 3: to hear that, oh, I've never watched the guy play.

2462
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 3: So if you want to read other people's like takes

2463
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 3: on the picks and then do what we're talking about

2464
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 3: with the grades and and regrade the graders and all,

2465
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 3: that's totally fine. But don't give me a take on

2466
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:26,800
Speaker 3: the player. If you've never seen the players.

2467
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:28,960
Speaker 4: I'm going to give you this too. You know that,

2468
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 4: Mike and they don't. They take pride in the fact

2469
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 4: that they don't know any anything about these guys.

2470
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 3: But they don't.

2471
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:37,559
Speaker 2: They don't judge the player. They judge the people who

2472
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 2: are judging the player.

2473
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 3: Correct, And that's what I said, which is totally correct.

2474
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 4: Sure, but like don't like then have a take on

2475
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:47,600
Speaker 4: the funniest the funniest thing about the whole thing is

2476
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 4: in general terms, they don't really have any problems with

2477
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 4: players either. It's all about how the media perceives the players.

2478
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:55,559
Speaker 2: But they just don't like people being happy.

2479
01:49:56,080 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 4: As points point, they're talking yesterday that they're trying to

2480
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 4: break down Kyle Williams sixty ninth pick, and Felger's saying, like,

2481
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 4: what are you hoping to get that? Like everybody is

2482
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 4: completely convinced this guy is going to be great when

2483
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 4: history will tell you is probably maybe a thirty percent

2484
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 4: chance that he hits, you know, based on where he's picked.

2485
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 4: And they're going about all these different guys that are

2486
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 4: drafted over the last three or four years in similar areas.

2487
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 4: Did you hear this?

2488
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 2: No?

2489
01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 5: No, but I can imagine what it say.

2490
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 4: So Felder's obviously on draft history, and he's doing all

2491
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,560
Speaker 4: the running Paula wide receivers, right, He's like, you know,

2492
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 4: Mike Us, Alex Francisco Nathaniel Dell. You know, Evan Lazar,

2493
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 4: they have no idea who Nathaniel Dell is. They don't

2494
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 4: have a clue. Do you know who Nathaniel Dell is? No,

2495
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 4: it's Tank Dell. Oh okay, so they're like, I never

2496
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:50,639
Speaker 4: heard this guy, so he stinks, right, And of course

2497
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 4: you get like forty five minutes ahead. They go to

2498
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:55,600
Speaker 4: the email section, and this is what I'll say. To

2499
01:50:56,320 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 4: Mike's credit them. He read four thousand males destroying him

2500
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 4: for not knowing who Nathaniel Dell was, and he read

2501
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:06,560
Speaker 4: every one of them, ripping him a new one for it.

2502
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 4: But the point is Evan's point, you should know at

2503
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 4: least a little something about the game and other players

2504
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 4: around the league. They talked about Josh Downs and they

2505
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 4: gave and they gave his stats, and then Felger said,

2506
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 4: and he did that with Anthony Richardson and Joe Flacco

2507
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 4: throwing the ball, and Tony stops laughing. He goes, oh god,

2508
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 4: you said that, because I was going to ask your

2509
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,600
Speaker 4: what team he was on. I'm sorry, you should know

2510
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:34,600
Speaker 4: what team Josh Downs is on. It's not I'm not

2511
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 4: asking you to know what team the left guard is on.

2512
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 4: I'm asking you to know a wide receiver who catches

2513
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 4: seventy five balls a year, you should probably know who

2514
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 4: that team, what that guy is.

2515
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 3: It's like if only they had somebody that works for

2516
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 3: the station, who lives and dies by college football, that

2517
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:52,719
Speaker 3: could maybe like just give.

2518
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 2: More than his share of air time over the last

2519
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 2: month they need with him in there, Bill and Vista, California.

2520
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 2: Just scrolling through X and seeing highlights of Drake's presser. Again,

2521
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:10,680
Speaker 2: I've only read excerpts and have not heard it, But

2522
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 2: is Drake giving sneaky rocky vibes from happy for Joe

2523
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 2: to have a chance to be a backup to happy

2524
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 2: to have a receiver who has made plays? It almost

2525
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 2: seems like subtle shots that brings up the question when

2526
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 2: did Deuce become Drake's mentor.

2527
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 4: Happy rocky vibes?

2528
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are the rock?

2529
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 3: Pun would be my guess in the morning, I splash

2530
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 3: it on.

2531
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:37,320
Speaker 4: It makes me Smeal mainly, Smeal mainly can you read

2532
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 4: that rock.

2533
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 2: Rock rock was there? Rocky took shots at people?

2534
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean he took literally like punch people.

2535
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's what he's talking about.

2536
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 4: Don't take no cheap shots in the Thunderlips Baby the

2537
01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 4: ultimate object of desire.

2538
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 2: David and Madrid. I'm super excited for the draftees and

2539
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 2: the u U d f as. I got admit, I'm

2540
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 2: not excited about the unif.

2541
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 4: I just loved, Like that's another example, and I think

2542
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:11,200
Speaker 4: with Felger.

2543
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 3: And it's a good udf A class though there are

2544
01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:15,640
Speaker 3: a couple of guys.

2545
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:15,640
Speaker 4: On that.

2546
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:20,680
Speaker 2: Funny because we went from a draft that you know,

2547
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 2: it wasn't really hugely talent related to now we've got

2548
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 2: talent in the unif A class, the.

2549
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 3: Best draft, but the best udf A class as well.

2550
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 4: In fairness, everybody said there will be a lot of

2551
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 4: good udf as because of the glut of players in

2552
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 4: this draft. Okay, there's there were more players available because

2553
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 4: of COVID in the five years, six years, seven years.

2554
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 4: Like a lot of people predicted there would be some

2555
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 4: good ud f as.

2556
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's a lot of land Larrison.

2557
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 4: Don't ask me, don't ask me who to individually pick.

2558
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 5: D Christian McCaffrey, he just like.

2559
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, totally the same thing.

2560
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 3: Didn't have a lot of a lot of juice to me,

2561
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 3: but maybe I'll be wrong about it.

2562
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:58,519
Speaker 2: I really think they have filled a lot of needs.

2563
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 2: But the linebacker room is concerning. Right now, we have

2564
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 2: Splaining Gibbons, Ellis, Tavai, Monty Rice, and a Udfe. You

2565
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 2: guys trust this group, and if God forbids Splaine gets injured,

2566
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 2: are you comfortable with a Gibbons Elis or Elis to

2567
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 2: Vai as a tandem. I certainly am not. If we

2568
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 2: lose games or our defenses and what we expected it

2569
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:20,479
Speaker 2: will be because of the second line of defense.

2570
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 3: I don't think that this scheme, I don't think necessarily

2571
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 3: what's the word. I don't think they need superstars at

2572
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 3: linebacker in this type of defense. Like I don't think

2573
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 3: this is a defense that runs some defenses like the

2574
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 3: middle linebacker spot is a key spot within the scheme

2575
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 3: and it's kind of all built around the middle linebacker,

2576
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 3: especially have a good one like San Francisco or something

2577
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 3: like that. This this defense, I don't I don't feel

2578
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,120
Speaker 3: is that way. I don't think they ever really had

2579
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 3: superstar middle linebackers in Tennessee either. They were all kind

2580
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 3: of you know, role players and guys that were good

2581
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:58,800
Speaker 3: at what they asked them to do. Types of players.

2582
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 3: So I think their linebackers are fine for what they're

2583
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 3: trying to do. They want their defensive line to be

2584
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 3: I agree.

2585
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 4: With all that. I would worry a little bit of

2586
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 4: Spolaine where to get hurt. I think Splain needs to

2587
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 4: be a part of this.

2588
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think Gibbons is an okay backup

2589
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 5: that they that they didn't have last year. And I'd

2590
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 5: also say Christianelli's just He was also at the podium

2591
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 5: after you guys and said this is the perfect defense

2592
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 5: for me to play in, which makes sense to me.

2593
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 5: He fits that kind of mold of just little linebackers

2594
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 5: who can run.

2595
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 2: Has Splain talked other than the day that we signed. No, No,

2596
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 2: do we know if he is okay with being called Bobby.

2597
01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:36,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I do want to call him Bobby,

2598
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 2: and I want him to move to swamp Scott so

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01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 2: I can say.

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01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 5: Not a lot of Patriot players I imagine living up

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01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 5: in swamp Skit.

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01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 14: No.

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01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:48,440
Speaker 2: It's a nice place.

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01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 4: It's very nice, but is it far's It'd be very

2605
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 4: you'd be crazy to live out, very difficult to manage

2606
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:57,200
Speaker 4: that commutey that is you have to go if you live.

2607
01:55:57,160 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 12: Up in Boston, like you're probably there's some days where

2608
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 12: you're driving an hour to get home.

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01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 4: Oh right, so make it too for swampscar.

2610
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 5: Gonna do a little mileage check. Here what you got

2611
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 5: on the mileage car these days? These three?

2612
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 4: You got two?

2613
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 5: Three, you got two sixty five five thousand.

2614
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm at one seventy. Your car is like two years old,

2615
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:19,960
Speaker 2: right well at nineteen, Yeah, I wasnt good. I had

2616
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 2: to get new tires. Got my bridge stone tires yesterday.

2617
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 2: By the way, run flats and run flats. I had them,

2618
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:28,800
Speaker 2: what the hell? Had them detail it? It does make

2619
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 2: a big deal, shiny, it's like a new car inside.

2620
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 12: Can I tell you guys a quick story. I'm still

2621
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:36,280
Speaker 12: so irate from this. I got an oil change the

2622
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 12: other day, and I wanted them to just inspect the

2623
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:43,560
Speaker 12: car too, But my neighbor's kid cracked my driver's side

2624
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 12: mirror with a tennis ball, so needs the glass replaced.

2625
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 12: They're else, they'll give me a red R because it's

2626
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 12: a safety thing. Obviously you want a red AR, not

2627
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:51,720
Speaker 12: a black AR.

2628
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 2: Rather, I have one.

2629
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 4: So I said, yeah, just like a year, just sixteen months.

2630
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 12: So I tried to get a quote to do the

2631
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:04,200
Speaker 12: mirror too, as well as my oil changed, hi rotation,

2632
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 12: et cetera. He tells me it's going to cost seven

2633
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 12: hundred dollars to do the mirror and I said, what

2634
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:12,320
Speaker 12: do you mean and he said, yeah, well it's the

2635
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 12: part and the labor. And I was like, okay, we're

2636
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 12: not going to do that today. Whatever. I go, sit down,

2637
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 12: get up on the internet, pull up some YouTube videos,

2638
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 12: bring my laptop back up to the guy and I say,

2639
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 12: are you quoting me for the entire mirror or just

2640
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:30,200
Speaker 12: the glass? And he said it pops right out. I

2641
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 12: can do it myself. So I have my laptop and

2642
01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 12: I'm like, did you quote me for the entire mirror

2643
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 12: or just the glass? And he said, oh, let me check,

2644
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 12: and he goes they said the entire mirror. I said why,

2645
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:41,680
Speaker 12: I said, show me it. Why do I need the

2646
01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 12: mirror replaced? The glass pops out like it's literally just

2647
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:46,560
Speaker 12: the glass. I made him walk to the car with

2648
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 12: me and show me and he was like, oh, because

2649
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:55,280
Speaker 12: I'm so vulnerable in an autobody, like you know, mirror tried.

2650
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 12: He freaking tried. But guess what. My stepdad owned family

2651
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 12: owns a chassis company. My brother's super handy. Like I

2652
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:04,680
Speaker 12: was ready to go. I had chat gpt up, I

2653
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 12: had the YouTube video. So I so I'm like, why

2654
01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 12: would you guys quote me for the mirror if it's

2655
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 12: just the glass that needs to be replaced. I said,

2656
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 12: the electronics still works all of this, And then he

2657
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 12: had nothing to say to me. He was like, oh,

2658
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 12: you're right, You're right, and I said yeah, and I'm.

2659
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 2: Like, no, but that's the thing today, is you need

2660
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:26,280
Speaker 2: to find a place that is willing to repair rather

2661
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 2: than replace.

2662
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 12: Yes, yeah, it was.

2663
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:31,840
Speaker 2: It's just easier and they make more money just taking

2664
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 2: off the whole thing and putting in a new one

2665
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:35,080
Speaker 2: rather than just fix.

2666
01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 7: Right.

2667
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 12: So then I'm like he's like, oh, well the glass

2668
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 12: will cost this, and it was still outrageous. It was

2669
01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 12: like going to be like almost two hundred dollars just

2670
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 12: for the glass and to pop it out. And I

2671
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 12: had seen the video and I was like, honestly for

2672
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:50,400
Speaker 12: the convenience. If you guys had quoted me initially and

2673
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 12: we're honest, just for the convenience, I would have said whatever,

2674
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 12: like taking it on social media, I can't sponsor reasons.

2675
01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 5: I say, he's already asked about it. It's wonderful for

2676
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:06,680
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. You can put your car make in.

2677
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 5: They'll tell you exactly what you need. And there's YouTube videos.

2678
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 5: I've done a car mire had my work.

2679
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:15,280
Speaker 12: Laptop press play on the video. I said, you're telling

2680
01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:17,320
Speaker 12: me this is going to cost me two hundred dollars, Like.

2681
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 4: Oh, I was.

2682
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 3: This isn't a problem though in the car industry, Like

2683
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:22,680
Speaker 3: my dad does a lot of consulting and a lot

2684
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 3: of his business and my brother is women because women,

2685
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 3: like they think they can take advantage of women, and

2686
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 3: they do in the car industry. And so like my

2687
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:33,160
Speaker 3: dad goes in with them and like to lease a car,

2688
01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 3: buy a car, and like they think and then he's like, no,

2689
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 3: you're not gonna We're not doing this today, like and

2690
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:40,520
Speaker 3: you know, technically.

2691
01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 4: They take it. They take advantage of middle aged old

2692
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:45,960
Speaker 4: men that don't know anything about cars too. Yeah, right, Like,

2693
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 4: well that's why dad.

2694
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:52,560
Speaker 12: Broken the seven hundred and fifty dollars for gas on

2695
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 12: a mirror. I could have punched this guy.

2696
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 4: I got to get my breaks done.

2697
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 2: It won't cost hi right now, just thinking about some

2698
01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 2: days ago, like a guy like if I go in

2699
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:04,200
Speaker 2: telling them what I think I know what's wrong. They

2700
02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:07,680
Speaker 2: take it as a challenge to like, no, you know

2701
02:00:08,280 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 2: it's it's it's awful, but good for you.

2702
02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:13,200
Speaker 12: Thank you, very proud of myself.

2703
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:17,560
Speaker 4: Do your research. It might be the bypass line you

2704
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:18,320
Speaker 4: know knows.

2705
02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:18,920
Speaker 5: Thank you very much.

2706
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 4: Bypass line.

2707
02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 3: You got to get Paul's card pass inspection.

2708
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:24,760
Speaker 5: Paul think I think that ship is sale there.

2709
02:00:25,480 --> 02:00:27,000
Speaker 4: I'd love to hand it over to your father and

2710
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 4: just slip the other way and thank him when he's done.

2711
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 2: Red our Perillo. All right, that's going to be it

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02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:36,200
Speaker 2: for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Thank you for watching

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02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:40,120
Speaker 2: and listening all week. More stuff coming on Patriots dot

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Speaker 2: com and all our social media accounts. As always, it's

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02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:45,200
Speaker 2: a busy time here, even though it's the off season.

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02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 2: NFL never stops. We'll see you next Tuesday. Hey, this

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Speaker 2: is Fred. Thanks for tuning into the show. If you

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Speaker 4: Thanks a lot.

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Speaker 3: You're not usually into the numbers, Okay, we do this time.

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02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:33,920
Speaker 3: I'm into the tangible numbers.

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02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:35,600
Speaker 4: There's there's tame here. Just give me.

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02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:38,240
Speaker 3: There's the advantage. I haven't know how to work it.

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02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:41,120
Speaker 3: I'm surprised an old man over here. I thought maybe

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02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:43,240
Speaker 3: i'd have to show you, like a tutorial or something.

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02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:44,160
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