1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: When you're ready to ride Metro, we want you to 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: know we're ready for you. Here are just a few 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: of the people at Metro to tell you how we're 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: doing our part to keep riders safe. We're cleaning like 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: novel before you've found hassant, no mask, no Metro need one. 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: We have a few extras at Metro. We're doing our 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: part to keep the DC area moving. Find out more 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: at wilmata dot com slash doing our part. Is there 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: a crisis on the border? Hell? Yes there is, because 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: four hours simply enough. This is Armstrong and Getty extra large. 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: We're talking to Joshua Wilson. Joshua was the executive vice 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: president of the National Border Patrol Council Local six in 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: San Diego. Says the Border Patrol is undermanned, overwhelmed, and 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: losing ground on areas which they had been maintaining control. 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: Joshua Wilson joins us. Now, Joshua, how are you, sir? 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing very well. How are you doing excellent? We're 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: we're anxious to hear the perspective of the National Border 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Patrol Council. UM. I don't think anybody disagrees at this 19 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: point that there is a crisis on the border. How 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: would you describe it? Well, systemically, we've been overloaded, and 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: it's it's a very intentional effort on those who are 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: trying to overload the system in order to someday facilitate 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: open borders. We are approximately agents are no longer working 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: in enforcement capacities. They're doing various custody and processing tasks, 25 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: hospital watch and everything other than securing the border, just 26 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: because we're so heavily overloaded. How recently has that happened? 27 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: That that that's been a building process, that's it's been 28 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: coming over the last couple of years, and in probably 29 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: the last six months, it's gotten to the point where 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: it's just not sustainable. And we're talking about a border 31 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: patrol that is already two thousand agents below their congressional 32 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: mandate of twenty one, three hundred and seventy. So you 33 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: said they are trying to overloord load the system because 34 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: they want open borders. Who's they Well, there's immigration activists, 35 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: various non governmental organizations, and they're quite frankly, they're prepping. 36 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: They're prepping the people that are entering illegally. They're giving 37 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: them the script to read and they're educating them on 38 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: how to exploit the loopholes within our system to cause 39 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: this systemic stress. It's coordinated effort. Do you know that's 40 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: happening for a fact? And how does that work? I mean, 41 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: how do they get this information to people, you know, 42 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: south of our border before they get to our border. Well, 43 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: there's there's people with non governmental organizations down there. They're 44 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: organizing these caravans. These are not spontaneous. They don't just 45 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: pop up all of a sudden. They are in the 46 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: organized effort to try and overwhelm the system. Right, Yeah, 47 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: we've heard about what's I can't remember the name of 48 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: the organization. Are you comfortable naming some of the specific 49 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: ones you know? Unfortunately I don't have the names directly 50 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: in front of me. But the we we do have 51 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: evidence that these are being organized, that people are being coached. 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: We're hearing the same script over and over from everybody 53 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: we encounter. That would be pretty good evidence, right there, 54 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: We're right right right well, And and human smuggling is 55 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: an enormously profitable enterprise for the cartels, isn't it? Oh? Absolutely? 56 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: And And the scary thing about this is that the 57 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: overall character of the people were apprehending has changed the 58 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: demographics of it has. Instead of getting single males coming 59 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: here to work, we're now getting family units, we're getting 60 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: unaccompanied children. And the thing is, because these children are 61 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: under the age of fourteen, we're not able to do 62 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: biometric identification on them, So we don't know if they're 63 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: being trafficked, we don't know if they belong to the 64 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: people who are claiming them as their children. And we 65 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: have strong suspicions that some of these children are being 66 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: recycled and are simply part of a human trafficking rate. 67 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: What what sort of biometric ID can you not do 68 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: because they're kids? We we can't. We can't do fingerprints, 69 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: we can't do DNA swabbing unless we have UM unless 70 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: we have very strong suspicion that they're part of a child. 71 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: Is that a US law or u N standard? You 72 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: can't fingerprint somebody who's thirteen years old? I believe it's 73 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: internal policy. Yeah, okay, interesting, So yeah, you could use 74 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: the same kid multiple times, I get it. Yeah, absolutely, 75 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: And in fact, you know, we've we've heard reports of 76 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: people not being reunited with their children once they're separated 77 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: and in custody. But the reality is many of these 78 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: people are choosing not to be reunited with kids that 79 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: likely aren't there's in the first place. So yeah, let's 80 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: go a little bit more in depth on the changing 81 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: nature of the people coming across the border and why 82 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: that matters. I mean, I have a partial idea, but 83 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: it's just logistically extremely difficult and expensive, isn't it to 84 00:04:54,160 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: hold families? Oh? Absolutely? Or families defending? Yeah? Yeah? And 85 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: border patrol custody facilities are all short term. We don't 86 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: have long term custody facilities. Um. In the past, we 87 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: did our very best to expedite their return back to 88 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: their country of origin. Now, with people exploiting the asylum system, 89 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: they're being they're they're forcing us to warehouse them for 90 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: long periods of time in facilities that are not that 91 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: are not designed for that, and it's it's very manpower intensive, 92 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: and it's taking agents out of the actual enforcement mission 93 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: of the field and keeping them inside simply doing custody 94 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: tasks like arranging for showers and feeding and transporting people 95 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: between facility and hospital. Watch. Every time an alien claims 96 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: any type of injury or illness, we end up taking 97 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: to them to the hospital. No matter how minor the 98 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: complaint is. And that takes two agents right there to 99 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: transport and then to sit on the door while they're 100 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: being in being examined by a doctor. Well, and if 101 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: there's have to stay in the hospital for any reason, 102 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: we have to have two agents sitting on the door 103 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: of that hospital room. And guess what, you the taxpayer, 104 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: are footing the bill for that and the medical bills. 105 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: And you said that the Border Patrol is already understaffed 106 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: by a couple of thousand people. Why is that? What's 107 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: going on? We've had an attrition issue over the last 108 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 1: over the last five six years, We've been losing people 109 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: to other agencies that have more competitive pay, that have 110 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: better locations they can offer, and the and the agency 111 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: really hasn't done a good enough job trying to turn 112 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: to hire and retain quality people. So I'm not sure 113 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: I've ever taken the time to completely understand this. So 114 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: you're standing on the border and there's a line there 115 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: and one side the United States and the other sides 116 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: of Mexico. If somebody's approaching from Mexico, as long as 117 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: they're on their side of the line, we don't have 118 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: to do anything for them. Do we or do we 119 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: have to do anything for them if they're on their 120 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: side of the line. No, I mean, if someone's in Mexico, 121 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: they're simply you know, in Mexico. Well, it's because all 122 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: this stuff you said. We have to give the medical treatment, 123 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: we have to do this, if their kids, we have 124 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: to do this. But we don't have to do anything 125 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: if they're not over the line into our country. They 126 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: crossed over. A lot of them have been instructed to 127 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: claim illness or injury because they're more comfortable in a 128 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: hospital setting than they are in a custody setting. Got you. 129 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: But since we have no responsibility legally while they're on 130 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: the other side of the line, that seems to make 131 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: the entire argument for some sort of physical barrier. You're 132 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: on the other side of the line, do whatever you 133 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: want to do, stand there in the hot sun, walk 134 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: back home, whatever you want to do. You're in your country. 135 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: Wouldn't that help a lot to have the physical barrier 136 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: just so that they're not in this country? Oh? Absolutely. 137 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: You know, the statistics show that everywhere we put up 138 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: physical barriers, we seem dramatic drops in the illegal entries. 139 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: Um I can tell you even anecdotically the area I 140 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: I work. Once we put up our physical barriers are 141 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: our apprehensions dropped and our crossings dropped. It made it 142 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: easier to apprehen and the ones that did choose to cross, 143 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: and we completely stopped the drive overs that we're bringing, 144 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, vehicle loads of narcotics into the country. Um. 145 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: You know, one of my very first cases I ever 146 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: worked as a trainee was a vehicle drive over that 147 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: was loaded with marijuana from floorboard to ceiling in a 148 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: Chevy Tahoe, everywhere except where the driver was sitting. Walls 149 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: won't work, That's what I see. I think you're missing 150 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: the point. Walls will not work. They don't help anything. 151 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: That's not the that's not true. And nobody who's an 152 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: actual border security expert says that. Every time some talking 153 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: head says walls don't work, I want to know what 154 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: their border security credentials are, because I guarantee you they 155 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: don't have any. Listen, let's go ahead for the people 156 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: who make their ridiculous statement, well, walls don't work everywhere, Well, yeah, 157 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: we know that. I mean there's some places that's impractical 158 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: or or nearly impossible to construct. A serious barrier. But 159 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: you know that right absolutely, And where we do have 160 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: walls in arears, we don't have to deploy as many 161 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: personnel to control that area, and we can choose to 162 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: refocus those efforts in the areas where the barriers are 163 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: not present, and it's a more efficient use of manpower. 164 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: It's it's such. I can't believe we've spent the last 165 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: however many months discussing this in this country. With this wall, 166 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: the walls are on this walls build a wall. How 167 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: stupid is that? Ha ha ha ha ha ha. If 168 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: I want to keep other people's dogs out of my yard, 169 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: I can come up with a policy of how to 170 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: handle the dog when he's in my yard, pay for 171 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: his food and water, or I can put off a 172 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: damn fence and the dog can't get into my yard. 173 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: It's it's I don't know. How ever, I don't know. 174 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: It's frustrating. Now. I'm not going to tell you that 175 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: a wall or a barrier is a be all, end all, 176 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: but it's part of a layered approach. You know, with technology, 177 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: border barriers, infrastructure and personnel, we can do the job. 178 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: But quite frankly, there are too many members of Congress 179 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: that don't want us to do the job. That's interesting 180 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: and well, I or don't think about it at all 181 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: beyond what what sounds the best in front of a 182 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: room full of people. I'm compassionate. They don't need to 183 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: come up with a solution. They just need to sound 184 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: compassionate and get votes or money. Well, and let's look 185 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: at this, look at this also, how do we determine 186 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: congressional district deportionment and electoral votes by population counts? They 187 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: don't check who's a citizen or who's not when they 188 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: take those population counts. Where do the bulk of the 189 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: illegal aliens congregate when they get here in urban areas? 190 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: What party controls urban areas? They have everything in their 191 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: interests to allow illegal immigration because it provides them additional 192 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: congressional seats, and these blue states get additional electoral votes 193 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: based upon the population increase of the illegal aliens. Well, 194 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: and we've often made the point that the Wall Street 195 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: Journal crowd, for lack of a better descriptor, doesn't mind 196 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: the idea of cheap labor either, So you absolutely not it. 197 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 1: It's there's there's lane to go on both sides of 198 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: the aisle. So hey, let's and I want to get 199 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: back to the whole refugee thing, because one of the 200 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: heartfelt arguments by some people, cynical by others, is that 201 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, these people are coming from a terrible circumstance, 202 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: they're legitimate refugees, and and you know we're a welcoming 203 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: country in the statue of liberty, etcetera. Center But if 204 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: if more physical barriers were erected, if you got more personnel, 205 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 1: in short, we could truly control the border. Would that 206 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: cut down on people's lawful ability to apply for refugee 207 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: status at a port of entry. Let me tell you 208 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: the secret that's not being told on TV right now. 209 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: These people that are applying for asylum aren't even eligible. 210 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: Economic need never has been, nor will it be grounds 211 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,359 Speaker 1: for an asylum claim. There has been no serious political, economic, 212 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: or any other demographic change on the ground in their 213 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: home countries that warrants this mass asylum claim. They are 214 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: simply gaining the system, all these asylum claims that are 215 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: being made now. Even if the people do show up 216 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: for their hearing, which of them will not, they will disappear. 217 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: But even if they do show up, their asylum claims 218 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: will not be granted, because there is no basis for 219 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: them in the first place. Economic needs is not nor 220 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: has it ever been grounds for an asylum claim. So 221 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: the numbers of people approaching the border for whatever reason 222 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: has exploded in the last several months. If this continues manufactured, 223 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: This is manufactured by those who want to overload the 224 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: system so they can make the so they can make 225 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: the case for needing open borders. Wow. Interesting, And it's 226 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: cloud pivens but in but in the event, but in 227 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: a micro sense on the border, right, trying to force 228 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: a crisis to to you know, change the laws. And 229 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: you think it's political forces within this country getting together 230 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: with the non governmental organizations and the open borders people 231 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: in Central and Central America just working together to do this, 232 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: you think, And you know, and there's there's also help 233 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: from the smuggling cartels that are making huge amounts of money. 234 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: They have the facto travel agencies that work to move 235 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: people from Central America through Mexico to our border. Wow, 236 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: that's really interesting. Well, listen, we need to stay in 237 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: touches as the issue evolves, Joshua, and and get the 238 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: reality from you. There are so many just silly emotional 239 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: arguments going on. This is a matter of national policy. 240 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: This is a matter of what's best for the United 241 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: States of America, which is a great and compassionate land. 242 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: But if you don't have a border, you're not a 243 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: sovereign nation. And we already don't. We already allowing more 244 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: refugees than every other country combined. Isn't that the number 245 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: I always here? Right? Or immigration in general? So you 246 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta, you gotta pick a number what you 247 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: think you can handle, and then and then have a 248 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: way to regulate it. It just can't be whatever happens, right. 249 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: Oh and Joshua, one final idiotic argument we can explode. 250 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: Are you anti immigration or anti immigrant? Oh? Absolutely not. 251 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: The reality is, if you want to know the truth, 252 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: we have a lot of border patrol agents that are 253 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: legal immigrants. And the truth is this country needs legal immigration. 254 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: We need the people with the skills to fill the 255 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: jobs we can't build on our own. But just this 256 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: mass immigration and taking anybody and everybody who shows up 257 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: at our border is not good for us economically, it's 258 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: not good for us culturally, and systemically. It's putting a 259 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: strain on us that we just cannot sustain. Joshua Wilson 260 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: is the Executive VP of the National Border Patrol Council. Uh, Joshua, 261 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: good stuff. Thanks for the time. Let's stay in touch 262 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: al right, happen today. Thank you for having me. Good 263 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: to talk to you. Thanks. This is the most false 264 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: argument I think we've ever had in our nation's history. 265 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: You know a better one. Let me know what it is. 266 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: Where you're trying to claim we're racists or evil or 267 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: we allow more people than any other all the other 268 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: countries added together. Nobody who's making these arguments, virtually nobody 269 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: who's making these arguments cares about skin color or any 270 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: of that stuff. It's just you have to have borders, 271 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: You have to know who's coming in, you have to 272 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: decide how many, like every other damn country on the 273 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: planet does. But you try to do what every other 274 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: country on the planet does, including your socialist, left leaning 275 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: countries of Europe that you're so in love what they 276 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: do it too. But when you try to do it here, 277 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: you're a you're a you're a mean, awful person. Well, 278 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: and that's such a cowardly thing to accuse reasonable people 279 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: who are just trying to come up with a coherent 280 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: policy of racism. Are there racists in who are in 281 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: favor of cutting down immigration or sealing the border? Yeah, 282 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: of course, but you know they're racists who are New 283 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: York Yankees fans. That doesn't mean everybody who's a New 284 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: York Yankees fan is a racist. And if I'm here 285 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: telling you why I think the Yankees are great, and 286 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: you say, well, there are plenty of racists who think 287 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: that you haven't to trust the issue at all, that's 288 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: a ridiculous you know, the argument tack to take. And 289 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: and that's the argument made by the lant made by 290 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: the left mostly, and the only reason the only way 291 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: you can get away with it, even when you've got 292 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: the media on your side, the only way you can 293 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: get away with it is if there's enough of the 294 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: Republican Party that says, yeah, I'm fine with that whatever 295 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: keeps things going the way it are where they are 296 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: because you get your hotel workers and your farm workers 297 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff so cheap, right, right, right, 298 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: So they're not gonna push back on that. Ironic talking 299 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: to Joshua Wilson, you know, on and around U. Sas 300 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: Ar Chavez Day in the Great State of County Unicornia 301 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: since Caesar Chivev's was an anti illegal immigration activist because 302 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: he saw it undercutting the wages of the people who 303 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: are already in the country and making it even impossible 304 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: to organize and and the rest of it, and he 305 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: understood it was an exploitive and an evil practice of 306 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: course extra large. When you're ready to ride Metro, we 307 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: want you to know we're ready for you. 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